West Indies v Pakistan, 3rd ODI, Barbados April 27, 2011

West Indies hope to keep series alive

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Match Facts

April 28, Bridgetown, Barbados
Start time 0930 (1330 GMT)

The Big Picture

April 28 is Heroes Day in Barbados. A national holiday to celebrate people the country is proud of. Like Grantley Adams and Garry Sobers. The West Indies cricket team is in desperate need of a hero - Bajan or otherwise - as they bid to keep the series alive at the Kensington Oval. Unfortunately the cricketers likeliest to produce heroic feats are injured, dropped or plying their trade in India. Darren Sammy's team trails 0-2, and unless they improve dramatically on two inept performances, Pakistan will secure the series with two games to spare.

West Indies have bowling problems. They took only five Pakistan wickets in 89.3 overs in the first two ODIs. Devendra Bishoo accounted for four, while the other was a run-out. Kemar Roach is a threat with the new ball but Pakistan's batsmen have simply played out his testing deliveries, while scoring off the gentle medium-pace at the other end. Jerome Taylor, who would have been an able new-ball partner for Roach, is playing in the IPL instead.

Pakistan have also had the luxury of being able to chase at their own pace, because West Indies' batsmen have been clueless against spin. It was this that decided the first two one-dayers extremely early in the contest. No one has been able to read the variations of Saeed Ajmal, Shahid Afridi and Mohammad Hafeez. At one extreme, Darren Bravo played a shot too many in the second ODI, and at the other Marlon Samuels couldn't play one if he wanted to.

The formula for Pakistan, on a turning St Lucia pitch, was simple. Let West Indies bat first, use spinners to stifle the scoring and pick up wickets without needing to produce anything spectacular, after which their batsmen chase at leisure. The outcome has been rather unattractive to watch - two dreary, uncompetitive matches - but that is no fault of Pakistan's. They too arrived in the Caribbean with several young players, and they've managed to cope far better than the hosts have.

Form guide

(most recent first)

West Indies LLLLL
Pakistan WWLWW

Watch out for...

Marlon Samuels' international comeback, after serving a two-year ban, has not been successful. He made 2 off 19 balls in the first one-dayer and then stagnated spectacularly in the second, pottering around for 3 off 36 balls before finishing up with 29 off 74. His innings played a significant role in West Indies losing direction after a positive start. Given the turbulence in West Indies cricket at the moment, Samuels can hope for a few more opportunities to stake a claim to a permanent spot in the team.

Mohammad Hafeez is fast becoming an integral component in the Pakistan squad, his all-round skills maintaining the balance of the team. He does a Shane Watson, opening the innings, often scoring quickly, and then bowling ten reliable overs, sometimes taking the new ball. He took 1 for 36 and made 54 in the first ODI, and contributed 2 for 38 and 32 in the second.

Team news

Despite two drubbings, the West Indian selectors persevered with the same 13-man squad for the third ODI. Chris Gayle, Kieron Pollard and Taylor are in India, while Fidel Edwards is not yet match fit. Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Ramnaresh Sarwan and Sulieman Benn remain unpicked. The fact that the squad was retained for only the third ODI is perhaps an indication that another failure will result in changes. Anthony Martin, the Antiguan legspinner, had a satisfactory debut - taking 0 for 36 off ten overs - so he could keep his place ahead of Andre Russell.

West Indies (possible): 1 Devon Smith, 2 Lendl Simmons, 3 Darren Bravo, 4 Marlon Samuels, 5 Kirk Edwards, 6 Dwayne Bravo, 7 Carlton Baugh (wk), 8 Darren Sammy (capt), 9 Devendra Bishoo, 10 Kemar Roach, 11 Anthony Martin

Pakistan played the same XI in both games, and with the results they've had, there is no need to change it as they push for a series win.

Pakistan (possible): 1 Ahmed Shehzad, 2 Mohammad Hafeez, 3 Asad Shafiq, 4 Misbah-ul-Haq, 5 Umar Akmal, 6 Hammad Azam, 7 Mohammad Salman (wk), 8 Shahid Afridi (capt), 9 Wahab Riaz, 10 Junaid Khan, 11 Saeed Ajmal

Pitch and conditions

The pitch at the Beausejour Stadium had surprised Sammy, who did not think it would aid spin as much as it did. The Kensington Oval surface should be better for batting, but thundery showers are forecast for Thursday.

Stats and trivia

  • Samuels scored 16 runs off 67 balls against Pakistan's spinners in the first two one-day internationals

  • West Indies have won two and lost two of the four ODIs they've played at Kensington Oval, over the last five years

  • Pakistan have played only one ODI in Bridgetown, in 2000. They won that game by 17 runs.

Quotes

"I would like to thank my team management for the way they have supported me. Shahid is the man to follow. He is giving confidence to every single individual - I think it is amazing."
Ahmed Shehzad, who scored a century in the second ODI after a poor World Cup, is grateful for the faith the team has shown in him.

"We weren't rolled over. We kept ourselves in the matches right to the finish. There were moments when things could have gone either way, but we didn't make it happen."
Darren Sammy thinks West Indies were competitive despite Pakistan winning by eight and seven wickets.

George Binoy is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on April 28, 2011, 14:22 GMT

    boring match the crowd dosnt seem to be enjoing the clash..

  • kranthi.vins1 on April 28, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    @JAMA::

    West Indies will become the Top Team if they play together with my Playng XI

    1) GAYLE 2)Barath 3)Dr Bravo 4)Sarwan 5)Dw Bravo 6) Pollard 7)Bishoo 8)Taylor 9)Roach 10)Samuels & Finally Not Forgetting big Man 11)Pollard

    This is best team for West Indies..

  • on April 28, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    Neither India nor the IPL can be blamed for the poor performance of West indies team. Blame rests primarily with the WICB and the selectors who in combination have "mashed up" cricket in the region.

  • on April 28, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    @EddyEhmed you are right, I can remember 1987 PAK-WI series where many Pakistani players got injuries because of their bowling attack. I also saw WI team playing with four fast bowlers on Indian spin wickets and scaring them. What a time they had. I really like WI team and do support them after Pakistan but do not know what has happened now????

  • xxxneilxxx on April 28, 2011, 12:26 GMT

    wi bowling is very weak...they need to extend the bowling and leave the remaining batsmen to back themselves to post a gd total...simmons can keep...drop baugh and edwards and play extra bowlers... Smith Simmons Bravo Samuels Bravo Sammy Russel Bishoo Martin Nurse Roach..

  • on April 28, 2011, 12:22 GMT

    vivgilchrist, i agree with most of what u are saying. tho i feel if WI wanted to pick a FULL STRENGTH line up chanderpaul would be there also in place of barath. i reckon WI need to convert one of their batters into a makeshift keeper and develop him that way. also WI does have a decent allrounder in darren sammy for number 8. whats missing is roach(injured) selectors(their brains are missing) and taylor and gayle (IPL) and a keeper/bat as u said, and dont forget gayle wasnt going to play IPL untill he was dropped from WI so it entirely selectors fault. Also brendon nash has hardly got a look in for ODI's, he's better then all these youngsters (darren bravo aside)

  • NCassie on April 28, 2011, 12:18 GMT

    Expect the same result once the same team is playing today, 3-0 is more than likely after today's game. WI cricket is done, over, finish....RIP WI! Trinidad & Tobago should break away from the WI team and play international cricket on their own and then the World will see the amount of talent that is within the Caribbean islands. Not the inexperience bunch of cricketers being put together and hoping on a miracle to happen. This incompetent board and captain should RESIGN and make way for people with better cricketing brain and planning to run the WI team.

  • on April 28, 2011, 12:14 GMT

    Hafees is not "A SHANE WATSON" hafees avg low 20's in odi's while watto is 43 avg, hafees bowls spin and not pace, but he does do a great job with the ball and his spinning has improved out of sight and batting is on the way up. But he's not watto at all. Watto is a class above =p

  • on April 28, 2011, 12:12 GMT

    Good to see Pakistani youngsters playing well. I think Pakistan should also have rested Misbah for One Days. He is aging and would not be around 2015 world cup. So he and Younis Khan should only play Tests now. As for the ODI team I suggest: 1. Shehzad 2. Hafeez 3. Asad 4. Umar 5. Fawad 6. Hammad 7. Afridi 8. Sarfraz 9. Wahab 10 Gul 11. Aijmal Fawad is talented but was not given enough time. Furthermore, he is also a very good fielder and good left arm spin bowler. Sarfraz is younger than Salman and also better batsman. For the reserves I suggest 12. Shahzaib 13. Usman 14. Sohail Tanvir and 15. Raza Hassan Rehman can play in tests. In one days Raza Hasan should be groomed. Shahzaib and Sohail Tanvir too can be very good in the limited overs format.

  • cricket_for_all on April 28, 2011, 12:06 GMT

    Everybody want WI to play good game and win this match (Even some of PAK fans want WI to win this ). So WICB and WI players should do something and make good effort to be world beaters. Pls don't blame Sammy; He is not different the previous captains (did they win matches recently? they answer is simply "NO")

  • on April 28, 2011, 14:22 GMT

    boring match the crowd dosnt seem to be enjoing the clash..

  • kranthi.vins1 on April 28, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    @JAMA::

    West Indies will become the Top Team if they play together with my Playng XI

    1) GAYLE 2)Barath 3)Dr Bravo 4)Sarwan 5)Dw Bravo 6) Pollard 7)Bishoo 8)Taylor 9)Roach 10)Samuels & Finally Not Forgetting big Man 11)Pollard

    This is best team for West Indies..

  • on April 28, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    Neither India nor the IPL can be blamed for the poor performance of West indies team. Blame rests primarily with the WICB and the selectors who in combination have "mashed up" cricket in the region.

  • on April 28, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    @EddyEhmed you are right, I can remember 1987 PAK-WI series where many Pakistani players got injuries because of their bowling attack. I also saw WI team playing with four fast bowlers on Indian spin wickets and scaring them. What a time they had. I really like WI team and do support them after Pakistan but do not know what has happened now????

  • xxxneilxxx on April 28, 2011, 12:26 GMT

    wi bowling is very weak...they need to extend the bowling and leave the remaining batsmen to back themselves to post a gd total...simmons can keep...drop baugh and edwards and play extra bowlers... Smith Simmons Bravo Samuels Bravo Sammy Russel Bishoo Martin Nurse Roach..

  • on April 28, 2011, 12:22 GMT

    vivgilchrist, i agree with most of what u are saying. tho i feel if WI wanted to pick a FULL STRENGTH line up chanderpaul would be there also in place of barath. i reckon WI need to convert one of their batters into a makeshift keeper and develop him that way. also WI does have a decent allrounder in darren sammy for number 8. whats missing is roach(injured) selectors(their brains are missing) and taylor and gayle (IPL) and a keeper/bat as u said, and dont forget gayle wasnt going to play IPL untill he was dropped from WI so it entirely selectors fault. Also brendon nash has hardly got a look in for ODI's, he's better then all these youngsters (darren bravo aside)

  • NCassie on April 28, 2011, 12:18 GMT

    Expect the same result once the same team is playing today, 3-0 is more than likely after today's game. WI cricket is done, over, finish....RIP WI! Trinidad & Tobago should break away from the WI team and play international cricket on their own and then the World will see the amount of talent that is within the Caribbean islands. Not the inexperience bunch of cricketers being put together and hoping on a miracle to happen. This incompetent board and captain should RESIGN and make way for people with better cricketing brain and planning to run the WI team.

  • on April 28, 2011, 12:14 GMT

    Hafees is not "A SHANE WATSON" hafees avg low 20's in odi's while watto is 43 avg, hafees bowls spin and not pace, but he does do a great job with the ball and his spinning has improved out of sight and batting is on the way up. But he's not watto at all. Watto is a class above =p

  • on April 28, 2011, 12:12 GMT

    Good to see Pakistani youngsters playing well. I think Pakistan should also have rested Misbah for One Days. He is aging and would not be around 2015 world cup. So he and Younis Khan should only play Tests now. As for the ODI team I suggest: 1. Shehzad 2. Hafeez 3. Asad 4. Umar 5. Fawad 6. Hammad 7. Afridi 8. Sarfraz 9. Wahab 10 Gul 11. Aijmal Fawad is talented but was not given enough time. Furthermore, he is also a very good fielder and good left arm spin bowler. Sarfraz is younger than Salman and also better batsman. For the reserves I suggest 12. Shahzaib 13. Usman 14. Sohail Tanvir and 15. Raza Hassan Rehman can play in tests. In one days Raza Hasan should be groomed. Shahzaib and Sohail Tanvir too can be very good in the limited overs format.

  • cricket_for_all on April 28, 2011, 12:06 GMT

    Everybody want WI to play good game and win this match (Even some of PAK fans want WI to win this ). So WICB and WI players should do something and make good effort to be world beaters. Pls don't blame Sammy; He is not different the previous captains (did they win matches recently? they answer is simply "NO")

  • on April 28, 2011, 12:06 GMT

    Neither India nor the IPL has anything to do with the poor perfomance of the West Indies team. Blame rests mainly with the incompetent WICB and the selectors. What have they done to motivate players? They instead have been waging war on the senior players . Now Chanderpual is threatening legal action for his name and reputation being sullied.

  • Faridoon on April 28, 2011, 10:02 GMT

    West Indies is not a country but a group of countries, hence playing for a collective team might not hold the same amount of national pride as playing for one nation. Gayle, Pollard, Taylor might be more enthusiastic if they were playing for Jamaica or Barbados or wherever they are from. Maybe the WICB can be disbanded and each of the carribean nations can form their own teams. Yes, talent will become divided and scarcer at 1st but in the long run there will be more talent coming through to the international stage.

  • Jama on April 28, 2011, 9:48 GMT

    I have a solution to the west indies poor form... They should import Domestic players from India, Australia, SA and SL and Pakistan...... or they will never improve... I dnt see them winning any ICC event with this kind of team and attitude in the next 20 years....

  • on April 28, 2011, 9:21 GMT

    India is destroying the international cricket, & ICC is allowing them to do so. ICC has become puppet in the hands of BCCI. This can be called as money talks. All other countries cricket schedule has be clashing with IPL but How the hell only Indian cricket team schedule does not clash with IPL....

  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on April 28, 2011, 9:00 GMT

    @EddyEhmed: No need for incendiary comments like that. The Indian community has definitely without any question, had a positive effect on WI cricket.They may not be in their glory days anymore, but they can definitely put up a good team given time.

  • PaddyRasta on April 28, 2011, 8:04 GMT

    Sammy may have been entrusted with the captaincy but there is imbalance in the team that is making this a cake-walk for Pakistan. WI are short of a specialist bowler. Simple - be cautious with Roach and they only have to face Sammy at the other end. Pick cricketers based on specialism - 5 batsmen, 4 bowlers, 1 WK and 1 genuine allrounder first then choose a captain from the 11. It should be either Sammy or Dw Bravo as allrounder, not both and Bravo wins here. WI does not have the luxury of choosing a specialist captain that other players cannot look up to. I think they have to have another look at Ramdin who is still young, has been in batting form and surely can do no worse than Baugh. He would solve the captaincy problem as well.

  • EddyEhmed on April 28, 2011, 6:18 GMT

    I still remember the Pakistan TV skids making fun of our players afraid of WI bowlers, not willing to go at the crease to face them, then only one person wearing diffrent helmets coming again & again to face them... they were known as Black Tornado in Pakistan,,, we still cant understand how a team who has ruled International Cricket for so long and have so many heros, such as Sir Garry Sobers, 2W's, Haynes, Marshel, clive, Richi Richard, and the great Viv etc...., i think ex players should really do something to save WI cricket, as we think in Pakistan they are the best ambassadors for WI worldwide. KINDLY SAVE WINDIES CRICKET, I ASSUME INDIAN INFLUENCE IN THIS PART IS DAMAGING THE LOCAL BREED...

  • everfaithful77 on April 28, 2011, 6:05 GMT

    A few CHANGES should be made if this WI team LOOSE the 3rd ODI. Bravo's form with both bat and ball should be of major concern to the SELECTORS. It looks like his heart is not really in this series but more on the IPL which he will join after the ODI's. Bravo's peak should not be automatic and he should compete for a place with other allrounders like Dave BERNARD, Emrit, S. Ganga and Ryan HINDS who was the most successful bowler in the last Regional ODI competition. Sammy also but his place is automatic as Captain. Sarwan can replace Edwards and HYATT or CARTER re Devon Smith if they fail again. A young fast bowler like Jason HOLDER can be considered to partner Roach in Barbados to gain valuable exposure. Chanderpaul should be preserved only for TEST cricket but the WICB must discuss with him and allow a final match. Gayle's comments re COACH Gibson should not be taken lightly by WICB and should inform the way players are treated by Coach re a more humanistic approach. Go Windies!

  • Rahic on April 28, 2011, 5:58 GMT

    THe last game Marlon Samuels was 3 off 36 balls. WI picked up 5 wkts. in two games. Great Goings...glad to see these fresh, new, YOUNGER players are picking up the slack for the WI. Making decisions without thinking is like shooting without aiming. This obstinate bunch of selectors are so blind they just can't see how they are destroying WI team. THey would prefer to go on losing the remaining games with this good-for- nothing group than recall Sarwan and Chanderpaul. Talk about being stubboner than a jackass.The WICB/Selectors are high class, high paid discriminators. THey just would not change their bullying and stubborn attitude. They are the main cause for the WI current demise. Somebody got to do something to get them out of there. Otis has been in the pilot's seat for a while now, but he still can't fly the plane. For whatever its worth, would crickinfo please ensure that the WICB gets a copy of the fans feedback/comment and have someone translate/interpret it for them. Thanks.

  • simonviller on April 28, 2011, 5:22 GMT

    Why do we keep harping about Sammy's performance and captaincy ? He did not seek the job ,he was intrusted with it ,because some of the senior players either didn't want it ,or have tried and failed at it in the past . The "so called " greats were in the team before at the World Cup and what did they do ? The same , old same old . We have been losing for the longest time so we have to do something different and maybe things will turn around .

  • VivGilchrist on April 28, 2011, 4:35 GMT

    Best XI - 1 Gayle 2 Pollard 3 Dr Bravo 4 Sarwan 5 Barath 6 ( a high-class wk batsman ie first-class batting average @40) 7 Dw Bravo 8 ( a good bowling all-rounder) 9 Taylor 10 Roach 11 Bishoo. So what's missing from making WI a complete ODI team? A wk that can bat and a genuine bowler whos batting strengthens the tail. WI are currently playing a batsman short when you consider other teams have DeVilliers , Dhoni, Haddin etc keeping, and a genuine bowler short by not having a quick to partner Roach. All I takes in 50 over cricket is a couple of spots to weaken the lineup and winning is difficult.

  • stevedd on April 28, 2011, 4:35 GMT

    what is samuel (senior player) doing in this team with his rubbish batting. i wuld have preferred a new younster getting a go he wuld have batted better than samuels.

  • stevedd on April 28, 2011, 4:33 GMT

    WHAT if west indies loose after bringing in GAYLE, SARWAN, POLLARD ETC and throw these youngsters, are they going to stop playing. how many ODI's did west indies win when these old players were playing, can someone show me the statistics. no matter even west indies loose all the ODI's still they should continue searching for talents and players, i bet there will two - three richards reborn in this year. where there is a will there is a way.

  • VivGilchrist on April 28, 2011, 3:20 GMT

    Should have one eye to the future and one on the present. Windies NEED to win to get supporters interested again and therefore need to pick best team available. Gayle should play if fit. Barath also. He doesn't have to open in ODIs...he could be a very good no6. I think Pollard would be more use opening and batting during min 10 overs of powerplay. WI desperately need a batsman/wk like all the good teams have. Bishoo is a future star. Dw Bravo is overrated and should be fighting for a spot with Sammy and Russel. Samuels needs to step-up but you have to remember that he has a modest record. Sarwan should be in, and Shiv maybe only Tests. Roach needs help - Taylor would be perfect and I think Tonge should be given a good go. Please WI stop picking bits and pieces players, it's not working for ODIs and it will never win you a Test match.

  • Guy4you on April 28, 2011, 3:06 GMT

    New WICB IPL Playing Policy 2012: Any player who has played for the West Indies in the last 12 months and wishes to play in the IPL instead of WI and do not accept and sign a contract with WICB, will or may be allowed to play in the 2012 IPL but will be band from playing for the WI and the IPL in 2013 and 2014. However, they can ask for a waver to play for WI in 2014 only and unless they play in all domestic competition in 2013 and 2014. This will definitely not all this IPL desires. WICB is who made all these IPLers and now they are completely disrespecting WICB, WI cricket and WI fans. When the team has achieved its goals and are wining again then, the reward will be to play in the IPL. Also, WICB should ask all players especially seniors who are not going to play the next match(es) or series to automatically declare themselves unfit and not available to play and should release to the media. This policy will prevent all the media bashing of the WICB by players.

  • on April 28, 2011, 3:00 GMT

    Why not give a chance to Kraigg Brathwaite ?

  • on April 28, 2011, 2:40 GMT

    This series will finish and the players that failed to perform, including the captain Sammy, won't be criticized or held responsible for WI loss.

    Since Gayle is in IPL, i would advice Sarwan and Chanderpaul to make some sorta excuse that they can't play if WI selectors recall them for the last 2 ODIs... because the coach would somehow try to blame them for losing the series, and instead, hail sammy although he isn't performing.

    If they persist with this team for the India series, all the seniors should just take up contracts with other teams around the world, because the only hope for WI cricket to rebuild is for the board to be managed by sensible people.

  • on April 28, 2011, 2:28 GMT

    Seriously? Still no seniors? when the squad for the first 2 ODIs was selected, they said that the seniors were not axed, so where are they now? Having lost the first 2 games, WI are on the verge of losing the series because they really struggled in the first two games, so makes them think that this team will win the 3rd ODI?

    As far as I am concerned, Gayle made the right decision to play in the IPL because they won't have selected him either. Ottis Gibson, the selection panel, and the entire WICB management needs new people for WI cricket to get back on track.

    Fans were hardly in the stadium to support WI because all the star players were missing. Mark my words; they will select Sars and C'paul for the last ODI and first test in Guyana to get the fans, but after that, they will be dropped again if they don't score centuries.

    I am getting sick of WI cricket. When will all this crap end? ICC should not allow them to compete at international level if the best team isn't selected.

  • on April 28, 2011, 2:11 GMT

    if we are going to be beaten it is time we send sammy packing and give to a captain who can command a place in the team the best person that is playing like they have future is darren bravo bite the bullet and make him the captain and lets mold a young team now remember grahame smith who had no captain experience before when he was appointed the captaincy but today he is 1 of the best out there let us build a team from the captain down i know we r going to loose but eventualy we will have a team that will be competive stop this nonsense about some of those that arent playing now this will be my 11 d.bravo .simmonds barath samuels nash roach bisoo holder dwayne bravoa wicket keeper .kirk edwards

  • 44johter on April 28, 2011, 1:24 GMT

    @saddam no disrespect but what can the junior players learn from the seniors? How to lose a match? They learnt that already!!! They now need to learn something new like how to WIN. Who is going to teach them though i cant answer that. Maybe Sammy? lol

  • on April 28, 2011, 1:02 GMT

    Can we find a couple of spinning all-rounders to boost the team for the next 2 ODI's especially the one in Guyana? Sherwin Ganga, Ryan Hinds and Imran Khan come to mind immediately. Is there any other that I have failed to mention? One of these spinners can replace one of the two medium pacers. I cannot see the reason for having 2 of the same type of medium pacers in the same game.

  • roopans64 on April 28, 2011, 0:53 GMT

    When will Sammy bring on his A game ????Selectors, there are players on the side line that are far more experience than this team you are embarassing.My team to stop this bleeding should have being from the beginning : Nash (capt) Gale , Chanderpaul , Darren Bravo,Sarwan , Sameuls, Narsingh,(if fit)bring back Ramdin , Fidel Edwards, Jeorome Taylor ,Roach and Bishoo.As one of the previous publisher mentioned the same team picked for the 3rd one day can be easily beaten by Jamaica ,Guyand Trinidad,Barbados even Canada too.

  • cgtboy87 on April 28, 2011, 0:51 GMT

    time to bring back the senior batsman.shiv sarwan....marlon samuel look lost out there.we need barath and gayle back for the india series.

  • westindian4life on April 28, 2011, 0:35 GMT

    our batsmen need to get to the pitch of the ball and use their feet more to the spinners...marlon samuels used to be so good at this....darren bravo can do it...not sure about the rest though...we need to put some pressure on the pakistani spinners rather than letting them drop on a length and tie us down

  • cricket_for_all on April 28, 2011, 0:32 GMT

    I am sri lankan and I am a sub-continent supporter too after SL. But I want WI to win this much for some relief. Good luck WI hope you will show who you are!!!

  • rashoon on April 28, 2011, 0:30 GMT

    let me note i cannot understand why we give PK a turning wicket to bould us out and we are complaining about the guys performance. when we go to PK or India of BG or any where in the world we will play on the wicket they give us but we are giving them a turning wicket good heavens what do we expect. this is the same attack that gave all batmen trouble in the WC. so what do you expect from young men on that turning wicket. i have no problem with marlon 29 of 74 balls give him a chance; but i just feel sammy is throwing his wicket to many times. i want you to know captain can make players get better or make them worse. Ian Botham get man of the march in his last march befor he became captain and only get that price again in the first march after giving it up. it is not easy friends for captain. sammy have been captain for one sercies give the man a break. after many years Pointing was all over the place in India and Shane was all over him. learn the game.

  • paul_21353 on April 27, 2011, 23:50 GMT

    I like the new west indies team they showed fight in the second ODI, it shows cause they batted out the 50 overs even when it looked like they were going to be bowled out....gotta have faith in these guys....cause who else we going to support...go windies..even though I am not a great fan of darren sammy...i say give him a chance...cause who else going to captain the side...give me a player...an I say well done...it hurts to see windies lose...but i feel better with this team....those other seniors feel they were too big for the game....so the WICB gave the young guys a chance...

  • on April 27, 2011, 23:36 GMT

    As far as playing in the IPL is concerned, I dont believe any of our player would have gone to play IPL instead of playing for the country. May be Razzaq or Sohail Tanvir would have played IPL but both of them are not even in the team. In Pakistan, if you are not in the team you are forgotten.

  • on April 27, 2011, 23:32 GMT

    Even if I am a die hard Pakistan cricket fan, I still want Westindies to play a lot better and win something for their own future of cricket. WICB must realize that they dont have the luxury of international level domestic players, so they need to groom their domestic players and that can be done by playing alongside world class players. By dropping all of their main players, WICB has missed the chance to give their younger players opportunity to learn from experienced players. Change is a process, which cannot be achieved over night. The young players need to play alongside Gayle, Shiv and Sarawan to get to know how they play and plan an innings. Pakistan kept Misbah just for the same reason in the middle order to support the younger team mates. They dropped Yousuf first but they had Younis and Misbah and now they have somewhat mature Omer Akmal and Shafiq. PCB is not known for good planning but somehow they are doing this better. May be Afridi and Waqar has a say in it.

  • jurnal on April 27, 2011, 23:20 GMT

    i am a west indies fan but they will never win a game without all of the senior players.....plus their cricket board is who needs changing.no where i would have my senior players not playing.look out for another whitewash...0-5

  • on April 27, 2011, 22:58 GMT

    To Damion Willi, I'm sure the Pakistan team will be thinking the same thing, and will no doubt succeed against this poor West Indies batting line up. There are two things that West Indian batsmen have struggled with in the past...make that 3 - the spinning ball, the swinging ball and the bouncer. 3-0 Pakistan, series over.

  • 44johter on April 27, 2011, 22:22 GMT

    We weren't rolled over. hmm. lol. GO windies!!!!

  • CricSoul on April 27, 2011, 22:13 GMT

    this will be a close game and as usual Westindies will not grab those key moments and they will lose this game, how many times i have seen this same kind of scenario with windies cricket, Is it "WIN" "DIES"? omg please help this team to bring back glories of 80s

  • sagitrama on April 27, 2011, 22:02 GMT

    I just realised a funny thing! Check out the team below: 1. Gayle 2. Barath 3. Sarwan 4. Chanderpaul 5. Nash 6. Pollard 7. Ramdin 8. Edwards 9. Taylor 10. Benn 11. Imran Khan (TT)

    This team is better than Every single member of the current WI squad man to man (the only exception would probably be Bishho v/s Khan for leg spinner spot but that too is a close one). and none of them make it to the squad....

  • on April 27, 2011, 21:38 GMT

    the Bajan Pitch is bouncy and hard suitable for Russel so play him there and bench the new spinner. If WI batsmen play positive and on the front foot to the spin then can easily amount over 300 and then beat up the PT players with short balls.

  • Bill.W on April 27, 2011, 21:30 GMT

    i see nothing wrong with change, but if it is for the better YES!!, sorry to say it but WI will continue to struggle if they have acaptain who is a walk in but would be dropped/rested/convienently injured - what ever u decide to call it - anyway, who would not be in the the side if he were just a player based on him performances going all the way back to the world cup!!

  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on April 27, 2011, 21:30 GMT

    @Parthi_nava: Did Pak players skip their national duties when asked to play in the first IPL? All those involved when they were discarded from the IPL after the first IPL barely put up any fuss (with exception of Sohail Tanvir, who was best bowler of first IPL tournament). Sorry to tell you Indians, but Pak players love playing for Pakistan and that can be seen through the commitment they show even when crises rage around them. Their loyalty and commitment can not be questioned now.

  • b4u8me2 on April 27, 2011, 20:10 GMT

    Also the WICB needs to take note that only Viv Richards have scored more runs than Gayle and Sarwan in a single ODI series of 8 games or less!!! These so called "worthless seniors" are amongst WI best ever. They jus happen to play for a team where there is no support. Also only Brian Lara and Desmond Haynes have scored more totals over 50 in ODI than Chanderpaul and Gayle. Does the statistics support the claim of these guys being non-performers?? It's the balance of the team that is accounting for the poor results not the seniors themselves.

  • b4u8me2 on April 27, 2011, 19:57 GMT

    The WICB have omitted their number 2, 4 and 8 highest run getters in ODI for the WI - namely Chandepaul, Gayle and Sarwan respectively. Yet they blame these players for the miserabe failure of WI cricket. These guys are in the top 10 West Indies ODI batsmen of ALL time!!!! The problem lies with the baggage and non-contributors that the side carries - Mainly Sammy and we need a wicket keeper who make runs and the all rounders, Bravo and Pollard to be more consistent. The three senior players are not the culprits. Check the STATS!!!!

  • on April 27, 2011, 19:57 GMT

    how can a team give you positive results when its captain is someone like Darren Sammy?? The kids on the boundary can play better than him...

  • Parthi_nava on April 27, 2011, 19:55 GMT

    To All Pak fans, Please do not cricise on players playing on IPL rather than playing for their national team. If Pak players are allowed to play in IPL, they will be the first to skip their national duiteis and will play in IPL becaouse of the amount of money that they are earning there.

  • on April 27, 2011, 19:43 GMT

    I have given up on my West Indies. WICB is living on Mars.

  • on April 27, 2011, 19:41 GMT

    All you haters are not WI fans. Keep your comments and criticism to yourselves. It is really true that empty barrels make the most noise. Please give the Board and Selectors a break and a chance to do their jobs. You have a relatively young team and you guys keep bringing these guys down with your comments. What a shame and disgrace. The players are getting a feel for international cricket: some with gain valuable experience and be rewarded and others will be dropped to get more domestic experience. If they did not give guys like Barath, Bravo jr., Bishoo, Russell etc. a chance to play, you all would not be calling for them now. They have given Gayle, Sawan and Chiv many many years of opportunities and you all criticize them. Don't you think these guys need a break as well even if to spend some time away and with their families. WICB you have many many supporters and silent followers. Do what you have to do to develop WI cricket. PLEASE IGNORE All THESE NONE WI CRICKET FAN

  • nmtpak on April 27, 2011, 19:38 GMT

    I think Shehzad will go for His natuaral Play , he is an agressive player , Afridi should give new ball to Young Hammd, because he is wicket to wicket bowler, umar akmal sould bat at No 4 That should be a Ideal position for him,

  • on April 27, 2011, 19:26 GMT

    Really, some peopel should analyze before criticizing. Marlon Samuels was the only batsman that hold a solid foundation for partnerships withing the middle order. Go check out the partnerships and the strike rate and tell me was it necessary for Marlon Samuels to play aggressive? Or shoudl the plan be that he stayed in as long as possible because West Indies had no batsman after? Please...Marlon Samuels is on of the most aggressive batsman in the West Indies..Why?..Because he has proven it in the 20/20 format and the longer version scoring horribly aggressive ONCE HE SETTLE IN..what i think is that.kirk edwars need to be replaced by chanderpaul or sarwan for they both could play a better role than him....Can i ask a question.....WHERE IS JEROME TAYLOR?? FEDEL EDWARDS?? ..HOW CAN YOU BUILD A FOUNDATION WITH ALL THE PLAYERS BEING INEXPERIENCED? I THINK YOU NEED ALL THOSE PLAYERS ON TEH SQUAD..AND PLAY THEM ACCORDINGLY...

  • sunnymachoo on April 27, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Sorry, please disregard my previous comment. I did not read it properly. Nothing is stated wrong. Apologies.

  • sunnymachoo on April 27, 2011, 19:23 GMT

    Before I proceed beyond second para, I want to suggest a correction. WI bowlers took only 4 wickets in first two ODIs. The 5th was a run out =)

  • Parthi_nava on April 27, 2011, 18:44 GMT

    People who hate IPL is jealous on the money the players make. please understand thay the money is also one of the important thing in the life along with the national duty. So when not picked in the national team, they play for IPL. nothing to critize IPL.

  • djdrastic on April 27, 2011, 18:40 GMT

    @Bhupinder As an outsider (South Africa) , this is exactly how it appears to us over here as well. Why the selectors seem to avoid this glaring fact I do not understand at all.

    That Devon Smith fella has to go back to the regionals and play against some good spin . Fella just sticks his pad halfway down the track every time and misses the straight ones.

  • on April 27, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    I remember the days when WI cricket was a force to be reckoned with. It's really heart breaking to see the state of affairs in WI cricket today. The board really need to put WI cricket first, look at Pakistan cricket, they are deliberately being targeted by certain cricket boards, but the Pak team keeps on bouncing back. The same goes for WI cricket, they are extremely talented but need some organisation.

  • djdrastic on April 27, 2011, 18:27 GMT

    @Bhupinder As an outsider (South Africa) , this is exactly how it appears to us over here as well. Why the selectors seem to avoid this glaring fact I do not understand at all.

    That Devon Smith fella has to go back to the regionals and play against some good spin . Fella just sticks his pad halfway down the track every time and misses the straight ones.

  • on April 27, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    Why can the West Indies batsmen and bowlers perform so good in the domestic version but yet fail on the international stage..... Are they like dogs who barks at people in their yard, but are afraid of outsiders? It seems like that's just the case with the West Indies. I hate to say it, but what else can i say?

  • on April 27, 2011, 18:03 GMT

    I am a great fan of Windies but it seems WICB has stepped down to the field to completely demolish WI cricket. All WI fans should come forward and yell for the betterment to salvage te pride of this team. They should ask Gayle to come back as Srilanka is asking Malinga. Make them feel for WI cricket. It is so much to US who is not West Indian but an Indian. I wonder if any of WICB officials read our comments.

  • xxxneilxxx on April 27, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    Sammy is clueless abt wi cricket....well if thats wat u call competetive...i wonder when they r not competitive wat will happen...scores like 70 all out will b prevelent...drop the captain...the bowling is the weakest in the world...the batsmen just want to hit boundaries....they are not rotating the strike as they should...thats y u need players like gayle shiv and sars in the team....the backbone of west indies cricket...imi from guyana where the final one day will be played...the last couple of games...the grounds have been empty...in guyana...the stands will be packed...but its sad to see people goin to see 5-0 whitewash!!!

  • Bilal94 on April 27, 2011, 17:41 GMT

    WI are not learning. They should make Darren Ganga while keeping Sammy as player .He is a useful cricketer but not an indispensable one.

  • on April 27, 2011, 17:37 GMT

    Oh lord..................... Another Beating

  • stevejohnson1010 on April 27, 2011, 17:12 GMT

    Problem doesn't lie in the fact that WI are losing, problem is that Darren Sammy doesn't want to accept mistakes. He himself should be out in first place, he is not a Willy bowler, and is an ordinary batsman with no captaincy skills what so ever. WICB is playing around with people's emotion by selecting unreliable squad time and again. It is high time to call back Chanderpaul, Sarwan and if possible, Mervyn Dillon.

  • Rakim on April 27, 2011, 16:57 GMT

    Westindies needs to change or they'll kill cricket in Caribbean completely.

    And I won't hesitate criticizing IPL, these people are killing cricket for money.

    And I am a Pak fan !!

  • shawnsundar on April 27, 2011, 16:56 GMT

    "We weren't rolled over. We kept ourselves in the matches right to the finish." Really? I don't think I saw the same match Sammy is talking about. Pakistan will win this series with ease, I am slowly but surely loosing my interest in watching cricket solely because my team never wins anything. I will continue to play the sport and support the WI players, but we need some people with common sense to lead the WICB, or else along with me and many of my friends, WI will loose their fans rapidly. And that's a fact!

  • on April 27, 2011, 16:21 GMT

    It might just take a 5-0 drubbing from Pakistan for west indies selectors to realise that our bowling is toothless and sammy/bravo shudnt account for 20 overs in an odi. In simmons and barath they have able openers, the lower batting order needs to be tweaked still. Sammy would have to step down as captain for this team to create some sort of a balance. On a good day, even 220 score should be defendable by a mediocre team.

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  • on April 27, 2011, 16:21 GMT

    It might just take a 5-0 drubbing from Pakistan for west indies selectors to realise that our bowling is toothless and sammy/bravo shudnt account for 20 overs in an odi. In simmons and barath they have able openers, the lower batting order needs to be tweaked still. Sammy would have to step down as captain for this team to create some sort of a balance. On a good day, even 220 score should be defendable by a mediocre team.

  • shawnsundar on April 27, 2011, 16:56 GMT

    "We weren't rolled over. We kept ourselves in the matches right to the finish." Really? I don't think I saw the same match Sammy is talking about. Pakistan will win this series with ease, I am slowly but surely loosing my interest in watching cricket solely because my team never wins anything. I will continue to play the sport and support the WI players, but we need some people with common sense to lead the WICB, or else along with me and many of my friends, WI will loose their fans rapidly. And that's a fact!

  • Rakim on April 27, 2011, 16:57 GMT

    Westindies needs to change or they'll kill cricket in Caribbean completely.

    And I won't hesitate criticizing IPL, these people are killing cricket for money.

    And I am a Pak fan !!

  • stevejohnson1010 on April 27, 2011, 17:12 GMT

    Problem doesn't lie in the fact that WI are losing, problem is that Darren Sammy doesn't want to accept mistakes. He himself should be out in first place, he is not a Willy bowler, and is an ordinary batsman with no captaincy skills what so ever. WICB is playing around with people's emotion by selecting unreliable squad time and again. It is high time to call back Chanderpaul, Sarwan and if possible, Mervyn Dillon.

  • on April 27, 2011, 17:37 GMT

    Oh lord..................... Another Beating

  • Bilal94 on April 27, 2011, 17:41 GMT

    WI are not learning. They should make Darren Ganga while keeping Sammy as player .He is a useful cricketer but not an indispensable one.

  • xxxneilxxx on April 27, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    Sammy is clueless abt wi cricket....well if thats wat u call competetive...i wonder when they r not competitive wat will happen...scores like 70 all out will b prevelent...drop the captain...the bowling is the weakest in the world...the batsmen just want to hit boundaries....they are not rotating the strike as they should...thats y u need players like gayle shiv and sars in the team....the backbone of west indies cricket...imi from guyana where the final one day will be played...the last couple of games...the grounds have been empty...in guyana...the stands will be packed...but its sad to see people goin to see 5-0 whitewash!!!

  • on April 27, 2011, 18:03 GMT

    I am a great fan of Windies but it seems WICB has stepped down to the field to completely demolish WI cricket. All WI fans should come forward and yell for the betterment to salvage te pride of this team. They should ask Gayle to come back as Srilanka is asking Malinga. Make them feel for WI cricket. It is so much to US who is not West Indian but an Indian. I wonder if any of WICB officials read our comments.

  • on April 27, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    Why can the West Indies batsmen and bowlers perform so good in the domestic version but yet fail on the international stage..... Are they like dogs who barks at people in their yard, but are afraid of outsiders? It seems like that's just the case with the West Indies. I hate to say it, but what else can i say?

  • djdrastic on April 27, 2011, 18:27 GMT

    @Bhupinder As an outsider (South Africa) , this is exactly how it appears to us over here as well. Why the selectors seem to avoid this glaring fact I do not understand at all.

    That Devon Smith fella has to go back to the regionals and play against some good spin . Fella just sticks his pad halfway down the track every time and misses the straight ones.