Australia v India, 4th Test, Adelaide, 2nd day January 25, 2012

India's gloom gets darker under a blazing sun

Bowlers usually get punished in Adelaide but India's hapless performance is not merely due to a flat pitch and in-form opposition
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At first glance very little seemed extraordinary about the first two days of the Test unfolding at Adelaide Oval. The weather was hot, the pitch dry, and the batting suitably relentless. A captain and his predecessor peeled off double-centuries, and the bowlers wilted steadily under the glare of the sun. Take out a few advertising signs and new stands and it might have been any Adelaide Test since the second World War.

It is not sufficient, however, to attribute India's struggles against an Australian side guided by the flowing strokes of Ricky Ponting and Michael Clarke to a flat pitch and a January heat wave. Australia's 7 for 604 declared was the latest episode in a series that has struck the same notes with about as much dogged consistency as a punk bass player. India did as they had done in Melbourne and Sydney, fetching early wickets then subsiding with all the compliance of a team that knows it is beaten. In Perth the wickets fell later, after spirits were broken by David Warner and Ed Cowan.

Few teams as prominently billed as this Indian side have been made to look this poor for an entire series, and by an opposing team in transition. It is arguable that not since Peter May's England in 1958-59 has a visiting party been so comprehensively trounced having arrived in Australia as warm favourites. The result that summer was 4-0 as a younger home side, led imaginatively by Richie Benaud and spearheaded by a strong pace attack, had too much energy for a team with players such as May, Ted Dexter, Colin Cowdrey, Fred Trueman and Jim Laker.

Then, as now, the tourists were thought to have brought their strongest team. India's squad was beefier than the one that had limped through England last summer, being bolstered by the return to fitness of Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma. The batting was far from sprightly, still relying heavily on Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, Virender Sehwag and VVS Laxman. Dravid referred to them as "a few creaking terminators", a description that has grown more poignant with each passing humiliation.

Their destruction has been brought about on the pitch by Australia's bowlers and batsmen. But off it India have been burrowed under by near-sighted selection and planning. Cricket history is littered with instances of players and teams that hung on too long and were punished for their tardy regeneration, and now the 2011-12 Indians are added to their number. Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman in particular do not deserve to be remembered this way in Australia, but it is inescapable that their final tour of this country will sour many memories, for them and their supporters. In that sense they resemble Muhammad Ali in the years after the Rumble in the Jungle, unwilling to bring the curtain down at the ideal time and paying a price for it.

While Tendulkar has made runs and looked fluent, he has found himself distracted by the pursuit of a milestone that is more a statistical quirk than a solid achievement. Dravid's feet and hands have proven to be slow and unsure on pitches offering more pace than those in England, where he excelled against bowling of similar quality but perhaps lesser velocity. Laxman's predicament is the saddest of all, as the man who confounded Australia for years looks immobile on ageing knees, unable to get forward to cover the movement on offer to the bowlers.

At the other end of the age scale, Umesh Yadav and R Ashwin have provided minor bright spots for India and in Adelaide they were joined in doing so by Wriddhiman Saha, the wicketkeeper called up to replace the suspended MS Dhoni. Saha's standards remained high throughout 157 overs and he conceded only three byes, while Yadav and Ashwin showed glimpses of the sort of bowling that is required to defeat the best batsmen. None of them are the finished article, but how much better might they have been with earlier opportunities?

Kris Srikkanth, India's chairman of selectors, now stands to face almost as much criticism as his former Australian counterpart Andrew Hilditch. A smiling, laughing presence in front of the cameras, Srikkanth carried the air of a man with not a care in the world for much of the past three and a half years. Yet he will now face a sterner examination from those who will ask about the likes of Rohit Sharma, Cheteshwar Pujara and the aforementioned trio. India needed to plan for this Australian tour in a more rigorous manner than has been evident. It is too easy in the current climate of non-stop fixtures to lose track of an opponent's development. The Australia of 2011-12 is nearly unrecognisable from that of 2010-11, yet India seem to have lost sight of their opponents' progress since they last met in the World Cup.

This leads to the door of Duncan Fletcher, India's coach. Fletcher has said he tried as much as possible to replicate the methods of Gary Kirsten, his successful predecessor. But they are different men, with different approaches. It cannot be forgotten that Fletcher ventured to Australia with a record of underachievement on these shores that few can match. Before the Adelaide Test he had coached international teams in 13 Tests here, winning one and losing 12. Australia's current selectors have placed an emphasis on the matter of whether or not the players they are selecting have come from winning teams. It may have been worth augmenting Fletcher's advice with other consulting voices, to help the coach as much as the players.

Most dangerous of all is the indication that India's attitude to overseas results has deteriorated, their desire and resolve waning with the rationalisation that home results count for more than those away - a populist view that has very little to do with the ways of high performance sportsmen. Taunts directed at Australia's batsmen from the likes of Virat Kohli and Ishant have suggested that it is the younger players who have taken this stance, bleak tidings indeed for those hoping for life beyond Laxman, Tendulkar, Dravid and Zaheer. It was the sort of view brought to Australia by Indian teams of decades ago. And it is another reason why the first two days of this Test should not be written off as that same old Adelaide Oval script.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on January 26, 2012, 8:36 GMT

    @The_Bengal_Tiger. Bradman would've been most disappointed to not get to play in subcontinent conditions. The flat, dead wickets would've been a lovely holiday after having to face up to deadly quicks on uncovered pitches. Sachin's a great batsman but he didn't have to play on uncovered pitches.

  • KameshRao on January 26, 2012, 7:33 GMT

    @ Rajababu... Oh yes you have a choice.. Stop supporting the team (sounds like you have anyway)... when they start to do well again you can go back to supporting them. Frustrating as it is, these guys are champions and would be hurting more... Oh yes and one more thing, conditions are different around the world, no one set of conditions are superior to another so stop belitting home wins... where do you think Australia is winning?

  • linusjee on January 26, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    It is clear to the Indian selectors that past records and statistics are far more important than current form. I would urge the BCCI to include Kapil Dev, Sunil Gavaskar and Bishan Bedi in the next squad. They might even be able to coax Ravi Shastri to play instead of talk. We could then have the spectacle of a one day match in test cricket. We're down to 3 days anyway so why not further shorten the form of this game? It'll save the endangered fans some money in that they would need to buy tickets for just one day instead of 5. Interestingly, in sports like golf or tennis, the "legends" have their own league where they do not have to contend with younger athletes. In Indian cricket, the pot belly and the bum knee rule. Go legends. We bow to you. Lumber on to the boundary so the batsman can run four at leisure - who needs a rope?

  • Night-Watchman on January 26, 2012, 7:24 GMT

    By getting banned, statistically, Dhoni escaped the ignominy of being only the second Indian captain to lose all matches in a tour of 3 or more tests twice within two years. The only Indian captain to suffer that fate was Tiger in the late sixties. Tiger was a young captain having taken over from an injured Contractor so he was given a long rope. Tiger was retained as captain in the next tour to NZ and India won it 3-1.

    I dont think Dhoni should be given any hope. He does not deserve his place in the team as a Captain or as a Batsman. He has lost his ability to inspire and should be allowed to have his honeymoon years in peace until he gets back the hunger to score runs and win TEST matches. This tour was supposed to be the swansong of THE THREE, perhaps return to India with a never before victory in Aussie soil. They must be clearly told that there are no Hollywood endings. It should be clear that THE END means at THE END.

  • Drew2 on January 26, 2012, 7:23 GMT

    India were number one for the blink of an eye, so comparing them to Muhammad Ali is a bit much. Gambhir's call for "raging turners when Australia visits India is the same short sighted fix that has prevented India from being successful overseas for the most part. A team can be number 1 and not win in India. They can't be number 1 and only win in India. The reason India reached the top is that they won a few series away from home. Oh well, back to square 1.

  • Prakshalan on January 26, 2012, 7:17 GMT

    Mobil is simply superb as expected. Says showed and proved in the debut that many more youngsters waiting to better job than the current SENIORS in the team, Wake up BCCI it,s time to send off the old men.

  • kurups on January 26, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    Excellent article...So much for the vision & foresight of our egoistic selection panel and the professionalism of our players.Now they all will be waiting for the next two years where India dont tour outside and knowing the fanatic public will forget this humiliation. as a fan, cricket has been my first love (until now!, perhaps) and I would not have felt any bad if Indians went down 4-0 but with a Fight!! This team should only be allowed to play ODI's and T20's under the nation's name and the test team should be a BCCI XI or FUN XI, not India for sure!

  • VinodGupte on January 26, 2012, 6:49 GMT

    Sehwag is the most selfish cricketer in the Indian dressing room. Selfish because he plays for his own pleasure regardless of the match situation. Even if IND is trailing behind by 500 runs on the 5th day, he will play brainless shots instead of saving his wicket for the team's cause only because playing those shots give him pleasure and he thinks only about his pleasure. How could you forget how he wasted so many reviews during the world cup without consulting the batsman at the other end? That was pure selfish to save his own wicket to have more pleasure at the team's expense (reviews). He must be fired. Pronto.

  • Rakesh. on January 26, 2012, 6:47 GMT

    Another 4-0 whitewash............

  • euphony69 on January 26, 2012, 6:17 GMT

    Its time for clean up. Pink slips must be handed to Sewag, sachin, laxman, dravid and dhoi from test cricket and inject young blood in the team. How can you expect all these 40 year old be able to judge a ball coming at 150kms/hours India should develop separate teams for tests and one days and T20. Give opportunity to all those who shine rather than sending the old hogs overseas

  • on January 26, 2012, 8:36 GMT

    @The_Bengal_Tiger. Bradman would've been most disappointed to not get to play in subcontinent conditions. The flat, dead wickets would've been a lovely holiday after having to face up to deadly quicks on uncovered pitches. Sachin's a great batsman but he didn't have to play on uncovered pitches.

  • KameshRao on January 26, 2012, 7:33 GMT

    @ Rajababu... Oh yes you have a choice.. Stop supporting the team (sounds like you have anyway)... when they start to do well again you can go back to supporting them. Frustrating as it is, these guys are champions and would be hurting more... Oh yes and one more thing, conditions are different around the world, no one set of conditions are superior to another so stop belitting home wins... where do you think Australia is winning?

  • linusjee on January 26, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    It is clear to the Indian selectors that past records and statistics are far more important than current form. I would urge the BCCI to include Kapil Dev, Sunil Gavaskar and Bishan Bedi in the next squad. They might even be able to coax Ravi Shastri to play instead of talk. We could then have the spectacle of a one day match in test cricket. We're down to 3 days anyway so why not further shorten the form of this game? It'll save the endangered fans some money in that they would need to buy tickets for just one day instead of 5. Interestingly, in sports like golf or tennis, the "legends" have their own league where they do not have to contend with younger athletes. In Indian cricket, the pot belly and the bum knee rule. Go legends. We bow to you. Lumber on to the boundary so the batsman can run four at leisure - who needs a rope?

  • Night-Watchman on January 26, 2012, 7:24 GMT

    By getting banned, statistically, Dhoni escaped the ignominy of being only the second Indian captain to lose all matches in a tour of 3 or more tests twice within two years. The only Indian captain to suffer that fate was Tiger in the late sixties. Tiger was a young captain having taken over from an injured Contractor so he was given a long rope. Tiger was retained as captain in the next tour to NZ and India won it 3-1.

    I dont think Dhoni should be given any hope. He does not deserve his place in the team as a Captain or as a Batsman. He has lost his ability to inspire and should be allowed to have his honeymoon years in peace until he gets back the hunger to score runs and win TEST matches. This tour was supposed to be the swansong of THE THREE, perhaps return to India with a never before victory in Aussie soil. They must be clearly told that there are no Hollywood endings. It should be clear that THE END means at THE END.

  • Drew2 on January 26, 2012, 7:23 GMT

    India were number one for the blink of an eye, so comparing them to Muhammad Ali is a bit much. Gambhir's call for "raging turners when Australia visits India is the same short sighted fix that has prevented India from being successful overseas for the most part. A team can be number 1 and not win in India. They can't be number 1 and only win in India. The reason India reached the top is that they won a few series away from home. Oh well, back to square 1.

  • Prakshalan on January 26, 2012, 7:17 GMT

    Mobil is simply superb as expected. Says showed and proved in the debut that many more youngsters waiting to better job than the current SENIORS in the team, Wake up BCCI it,s time to send off the old men.

  • kurups on January 26, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    Excellent article...So much for the vision & foresight of our egoistic selection panel and the professionalism of our players.Now they all will be waiting for the next two years where India dont tour outside and knowing the fanatic public will forget this humiliation. as a fan, cricket has been my first love (until now!, perhaps) and I would not have felt any bad if Indians went down 4-0 but with a Fight!! This team should only be allowed to play ODI's and T20's under the nation's name and the test team should be a BCCI XI or FUN XI, not India for sure!

  • VinodGupte on January 26, 2012, 6:49 GMT

    Sehwag is the most selfish cricketer in the Indian dressing room. Selfish because he plays for his own pleasure regardless of the match situation. Even if IND is trailing behind by 500 runs on the 5th day, he will play brainless shots instead of saving his wicket for the team's cause only because playing those shots give him pleasure and he thinks only about his pleasure. How could you forget how he wasted so many reviews during the world cup without consulting the batsman at the other end? That was pure selfish to save his own wicket to have more pleasure at the team's expense (reviews). He must be fired. Pronto.

  • Rakesh. on January 26, 2012, 6:47 GMT

    Another 4-0 whitewash............

  • euphony69 on January 26, 2012, 6:17 GMT

    Its time for clean up. Pink slips must be handed to Sewag, sachin, laxman, dravid and dhoi from test cricket and inject young blood in the team. How can you expect all these 40 year old be able to judge a ball coming at 150kms/hours India should develop separate teams for tests and one days and T20. Give opportunity to all those who shine rather than sending the old hogs overseas

  • Leggie on January 26, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    @Rajababu: Civilized people don't "insult" sportsmen if they don't perform. They stay away from watching one side contests

  • rahulcricket007 on January 26, 2012, 6:01 GMT

    @ALL INDIAN FANS WHO R SAYING THAT ENG , AUS ARE VULNERABLE IN INDIA . YES THEY ARE , BUT THEY SHOW FIGHT & NEVER GET DEFEATED LIKE 4-0 WHITEWASH , LOSING 2 MATCH BY AN INNINGS . THEY PLAY GOOD CRICKEET HERE TOO & MOST MATCHES FININSH IN 5 DAYS NOT LIKE OUR INDIAN TEAM WHO EASILY GETS DEFEATED IN 3 OR 4 DAYS IN OVERSEAS .

  • on January 26, 2012, 5:58 GMT

    hope india will be better in the next innings......cheers for ausssssssssss..........

  • lazyplayers on January 26, 2012, 5:48 GMT

    Rajababu- I am an Indian and I fully agree with you :)

  • on January 26, 2012, 5:33 GMT

    Sreesanth is better than Zaheer & Ishanth

  • KKSid on January 26, 2012, 5:09 GMT

    People I have seen at times are really after the heads of the Indian Middle Order Batsmen, For once I understand is that they are good and would really love to go out in the sun, the only problem is that Who would replace them? Suresh Raina are you serious. He is unable to play any ball that comes a little 3 inches above his belly button. I think the only reason all of them are still playing is that if they retire the team will fear worse than it is doing now. There is no succession plan here which is a big issue for all teams look the only team with a good succession plan was South Africa where they replace with a like for like and have only provided 1 or 2 players the chance to go on forever. The worst succession plan as far as batting is concerned has been Pakistan's. A middle order giant (Inzi) retires from Test cricket in 2007 at the age of 36 and the person who replaces him is 32. What happened with after that was for all to see, Hence the Indian greats are justified to stay.

  • Rumy1 on January 26, 2012, 4:23 GMT

    So we saw more of the same. Enough man.Time to rest Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin and Laxman. Clearly, Sehwag is the most irresponsible player in team. This is proved time and again. Good time to bring Jaffer, Badrinath, Pujara and Kaif for the Test series at home. Wasim Jaffer, Badri and Pujara would be a great blend. Kaif would be a great addition as well. Kaif has always been a captaincy material. Make him the Captain. Besides youngsters, you need some experience too. Both Kaif and Jaffer are in early 30s.Sounds much better than greats in 38s / 39s. Time to blood in Rohit Sharma too.Bring back Harbhajan. Ashwin remains an avg. Ranji level offie who has carrom ball. Ashwin stands sorted out by international batsmen including lesser mortals like Bravo,Chanderpaul, Russel, Rampaul, etc. Pragyan Ojha should also be brought back in. He is a much better bowler with lot more variation and skills than this Srikanth favorite - Ashwin.Time to confirm Saha as wk and bring I.Khaleel as 2nd wk

  • on January 26, 2012, 4:08 GMT

    I simply blame the selectors and the BCCI for being complacent and arrogant in the liight of the state of Indian cricket team. The ageing,overestimated top order is the main culprit.What was needed was a young team with fresh enthusiasm and fighting spirit,led by an able captain,Dhoni would do better in the absence of greats. He is under pressure in thier presence,knowing they will be blamed in failures,they have become a liability. Toughen up India,its been too long,cant bear anymore shame. Please do not pile the agony on us poor souls,who are so passionate about this game and our country's cricket.Sack the selectors,remove all the top five,bring in youngsters is in my opinion the only way to go further.

  • zenboomerang on January 26, 2012, 3:45 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger... Why do some Indian fans want to denigrate Bradman all the time?... Different era's & uncovered pitches, no helmets & protective gear, but when it comes to 100's here are the facts - Bradman: a 100 every 3 innings (36.25%) while Tendulkar: a 100 every 6 innings (16.5%)... Bradman didn't play in the subcontinent because India didn't become independent until August 15, 1947 & played their 1st series against Oz in Oz later that year before Bradman retired in Eng the next year at 39y.o... Oz was 1st country to play a 5 Test series against India 1947 - Eng only had played 3 Test series or shorter... Also Bradman lost 8 years at his peak because of WWII... Pak 1st Test 1952 / Sri Lanka 1982 / Bangladesh 2000...

  • caught_knott_bowled_old on January 26, 2012, 3:36 GMT

    There is a silver lining to the clouds that hang over the Indian team; which is that, there is now certainty on the way forward. Such comprehensive losses don't give the selectors, captain and players any cover. So, changes will be made. That will give us at least some new faces and fresh legs on the field. The only remaining concern is the attitude of the players mentioned by Brettig. Hopefully a suitable captain is picked who kick their attitudes into place!

  • whyowhy on January 26, 2012, 3:32 GMT

    TheBengaltiger what planet are you from ? You must be a blind fishing cat and not a tiger, when comparing apples with oranges you should expect differences, a sick mind can be a very dangerous thing...........

  • rickyvoncanterbury on January 26, 2012, 2:52 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger well done mate, i do not agree with you, but i took it as an apology to the greatest cricketer ever.

  • 30-30-150 on January 26, 2012, 2:50 GMT

    Don't worry guys.. India will pay back every single wound in the T20s and TRI-SERIES.

  • kanjithem on January 26, 2012, 2:45 GMT

    My prediction that India would play Australia back into form has come true. It has been said India will thrash Australia on slow pitches in the sub-continent. Has it occurred to those who said this that India's winning margins on home soil have been diminishing over the last decade, culminating in Australia winning a series in their "last frontier" not so long ago. The reasons could be that India is no more producing good spinners; the opposition having better spinners; the opposition becoming better players of spin; or, Indian batsmen not being able to handle good spinners. Whatever the reason, in their recent form, they will get humiliated wherever or on whichever ground they play on. Mr Gambhir thinks they will massacre Australia in India - you and which army? That's how bad you have played here. Fans of Indian cricket, like I, are beginning to accept the possibility that Indian cricket is mediocre, and their status as No 1 was actually a blip.

  • DebashisCalcutta on January 26, 2012, 2:33 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger ... Are you serious when you mean Australians do not show proper respect to SRT? On the contrary they are the most sporting lot. Have you forgotten , what we , Indians, did to Andrew Symonds ? It was a shame !!! Also looking at your id , it seems you are from Bengal , haven't you been to Eden Gardens ? Do you find the spectators there respectful ? I have been to Eden Gardens a number of times , and sorry to say about my city mates but , they are amongst the most disrespectful spectators I have EVER SEEN ....

  • on January 26, 2012, 2:31 GMT

    If I were the BCCI president

    1. I shall pass a bill that grants India 3 innings in a test match 2. Shall reserve the right to call it a 3 day match if the above doesn't work 3. Shall recommend ICC to consider cumulative scores of Sachin's past 10 innings to account for a century 4. Shall schedule back to back/overlapping test match dates for increased revenue and cost cutting on tour expenses 5. Shall introduce a lottery system for team selection 6. Shall rename Indian venues after Lords, Oval, SCG, Adeliade and account results as overseas victories

  • Rastaman21 on January 26, 2012, 2:29 GMT

    Being an Indian fan based in Singapore, I am sorely disappointed in the absolute lack of fighting qualities in the Indian Team. Putting thnings into perspective, India are now facing their 5th Innings defeat in 6 Away Tests (counting the England debacle). This is seriously appalling. Even the non-Innings defeats have been by a massive number of runs. This must be the worst record of any ICC team. I daresay that even lower ranked Teams like Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and even Ireland will show much better fight than this sorry team. Ring in the changes now please for the sake of Indian cricket.

  • TheLoneStranger on January 26, 2012, 2:22 GMT

    It seems as though Peter Siddle has been re-born this season. He has led "the pack" magnificently, and thoroughly justified his selection for Adelaide, despite talk about him being "rested" as part of a "rotation" policy. It illustrates the fact that if a player is in form and fit, he should always be picked (which begs the question: why was Marsh picked?!).

  • on January 26, 2012, 2:12 GMT

    i am pretty sure our poweful indian team will score centuries in the ipl and act like nothing happened way to go tendulkar,lazxman and dravid thanks for holding places of younsters like rohit sharma,pujara,badinath etc

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 26, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    I have posted a number of times - Viru, THE HOLE (formerly known as THE WALL), LAX and 10dulkar (also known as selfishkar) are done. They need to be booted out of the team - NOW. No more farewell test. They should have realized that their time's up and left on their own. We have a bunch of talented youngsters dying to play for India. At least try them out for a couple of games. I bet Rahane, Rohit, Manoj, Mukund, etc. can perform much better than these losers. Shame on the Oldies for trying to hang to their seat in test cricket. Shame on the selection committee for not getting rid of these losers.

  • rama_krish on January 26, 2012, 2:01 GMT

    With the current state of Indian cricket, Trinidad and Tobago may well win the next CL T20. That will be a firm nail in Indian cricket's coffin. BCCI needs to stop worshipping gods and old men and let true cricketers make the team. Now publish that, biased and censorial cricinfo.

  • Simoc on January 26, 2012, 2:01 GMT

    This Indian team had a poor preparation to the first test and the batters shown no fight to date. Its hard to see Shewag surviving as he doesn't move his feet. His way works until the eyesight declines. It looks like Dravid is not picking the ball up either. I think two changes max. and a better attitude and captaincy are all that is required

  • Chris_P on January 26, 2012, 1:59 GMT

    @@TheBengalTiger. "Bradman never played in the subcontinent"? That was because there wasn't any tours, Pakistan wasn't around, SL didn't have Test status & India had recently been playing tests. What Bradman did to though was play constant matches against top teams, no Bangladesh, no dishevilled Zimbabwe (post 2001) no covered pitches & no flat tracks to bloat averages. Get a grip.

  • Chris_P on January 26, 2012, 1:51 GMT

    @Rajababu. I disagree with you. We Aussies have no right to insult Indian or any other fans. We all share the great passion for this great game, and hopefully can acknowledge the class & heart of all cricketers. Personally, I only respond agressively to those who post the same manner first, and expect the same back to any of Aussies who bring the standard down. I have enjoyed watching international cricket for a lonbg time now & have seen many wonderful players from all countries, especially from your countrymen. I have been through tough times and (obviously) great times, so I can appreciate the heartache you guys are feeling. Just remember, nothing stays the same, cycles always occur.

  • dmqi on January 26, 2012, 1:37 GMT

    This biggest series defeat should be dedicated to BCCI, SELECTORS, IPL LOVERS, THE OLD TRIOS AND THE INDIAN PITCH MAKERS AND OF COURSE THE CAPTAIN. Be ready for # 6 POSITION SOON.

  • AvidCricFan on January 26, 2012, 1:36 GMT

    This team make up is pathetic. The old guard needs to go along with few non-performers who take their positions granted. Based on the performance of the last two overseas series, the list is Gambhir, Shewag, Tendulkar, VVS, Ishant, Dhoni, and now Dravid. Yadav is a good bowling prospect, but his fielding is wanting. He should not be in the team until he improves his fielding. The problem is these days Indian players are so busy with back-to-back tournaments, they don't get time to think or improve on their game. Plus with the money that is flowing in the game, lot of players don't need to focus on test cricket.

  • D.Sharma on January 26, 2012, 1:24 GMT

    Typical Indian knee jerk reactions from people. I think Laxman should go and make way for Sharma. Dravid should drop down the order to 6 for a year and then retire. Kohli should go to 3 and Sharma to 5. I'm sick of people standing up for Tendulkar. What has he done? Wasted his starts unlike Dravid who at least carried on in England. I'm also sick of him selecting which series to play and which to rest. It's unfair for guys like Rahane etc. who open in his absence. He should NOT play in another overseas tour, so by the time they get someone like Rahane/Pujara or whomever, the team should be reasonably established for the next overseas tour.

  • Jaggadaaku on January 26, 2012, 1:23 GMT

    Believe it or not, Sachin won't be able to blast his 100th International century even if he would play 50 more years. Since his 99th International hundred, 118 centuries blasted by world's batsmen, but he couldn't get one yet. Brad Haddin must feel great saying Aus can't let him make 100th century in this tour, and this master bastard didn't make it.

  • RameshRayaprolu on January 26, 2012, 1:19 GMT

    The Indian team must be ruled out of Test playing nations for 3 or 5 years. Then, let a fresh/new Indian team can start playing test cricket after 3/5 years. I hope ICC can look at this team's last 2 series statistics and do it right away.

    I cannot watch any more such dumb matches. Being a test playing nation means that the team is responsible to show some good resistance to the aggressive oppositions, not just waiting for declarations and getting all out 2 times in less than 2 days ! This Indian team deserves to be ruled out of playing any more Tests.

  • rama_krish on January 26, 2012, 1:13 GMT

    As I said in an earlier comment that Cricinfo refused to print - this BBCI team is inept to the point of tears. Common sense would dictate that most, if not all the players should be sent into retirement. Right now, it's an Aussie 'clean sweep".

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 26, 2012, 1:05 GMT

    I hate to say I told you so - Sachin never plays when India is under pressure and needs his services. He is good at scoring tons on flat pitches, against weak teams, especially when there's no pressure. It's not for no reason that he is known as Selfishkar. Both Rhoit and Rahane are quite capable of scoring more than 25 runs on this batting pitch. So why not give them a chance?

  • Rajababu on January 26, 2012, 0:04 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger- I'm an Indian and I diasgree with you. Aussie fans have every right to insult Indian team. I don't care if they insult Sachin because he is just a member of the team, I care more for the team. Back to main point, Indian team landed on Aussie shores with full strength promising a riveting contest in a country that love and enjoy sports in summer. What do they get, a pathetic cricketing skills as if Zimbabwe is visiting Australia. What do they get, young Indians like Yadav, Ishant and Ashwin fumbling over the ball and running like ageing horses. Very disappointed. I'm all for backing your team when chips are down but what is Indian team giving to me in this deal, same old ways that fail again and again!

  • Rajababu on January 25, 2012, 23:51 GMT

    Indian cricket is rubbish, we all try to hold onto the last straw. After English tour, we said we'll do well in australia with full strength team. Now we are saying, let foreign teams come to India and we will beat them. Mark my words, India will lose in India as well and then we will have no where to hide. You can already see likes of England improving their game for subcontinent conditions. I have no hopes.

  • on January 25, 2012, 23:36 GMT

    @Abhijit Dass: Pretty scorching but well said.

  • otherjacko on January 25, 2012, 23:32 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger, you are completely wrong about the Australian crowds' attitude towards Tendulkar. He unfailingly receives standing ovations when he begins and when he ends each innings. Many Australian fans are hoping he will reach his 100th 100 here, regardless of whether or not the feat is a distraction or whatever. Have you actually been to the grounds here and observed the conduct you are talking about, or are you just peddling hearsay?

  • on January 25, 2012, 23:03 GMT

    India's captaincy has been woeful at best. One look at the tactics employed by Clarke vs the Tactics of Dhoni (And now Sehwag) will show the difference in not only who wants it more but also who is willing to stick to the two cardinal rules; number one, NEVER change a winning game plan, and number two, ALWAYS change a losing game plan.

    The Indian players look bored, their batsmen whilst in the field looking like they're just waiting to bat, and their bowlers not sticking to any plan. If they don't take a wicket in the first three or four overs, then they give up.. Bowling partnerships have been non existent.. Australia on the other hand have bred a brand of cricketer that look to be 'all rounders" - the bowlers (Harris, Siddle, Starc, Pattinson, Even Hilfy) consistently working on their batting skills, all players looking to have the highest standard of fielding, diving for everything.. This is not apparent in the Indian squad.. Something must be done about this for India to succeed.

  • spinkingKK on January 25, 2012, 23:02 GMT

    Very nice article. However, I can't imagine India being hot favorite pre-series. It was never going to be. India had an ageing and under performing batting line-up, even long before this series and their back-up bowling for this series was some guys just making up the numbers. With the fielding nothing short of pathetic, I never thought they will be able to avoid a defeat by 2 test margin against an Australian team full of young energetic fast bowlers and a batting line-up who were, eventhough inconsistent, hungry to score more runs. In fact, Australia's strenghts were very much working against India's weaknesses - Energetic fast bowlers are going to be very hard for the ageing batsmen, electric fielding was going to stop them running, australia's athleticism was going to get them exoponential runs against India's outfielding which can not run anybody out.

  • rust01 on January 25, 2012, 22:35 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger, an Indian should be the last person to accuse others of insulting and being disrespectful to others. Theses comments pages are constantly full of Indian posters ridiculing and insulting other teams and supporters, even when the article has nothing to do with India. Harden up and don't be a hypocrite.

  • hhillbumper on January 25, 2012, 22:00 GMT

    I watched what I thought was a test team bat recently.Sadly India could not match them and so I went back to watching Bangladesh.At least they seemed to have a bit of fight.

  • HonestIndianOpinion on January 25, 2012, 21:53 GMT

    This had to happen. After the England fiasco our team was completely down and out. The infusion of young blood could hv just marginally bettered the result. I still feel our bowlers could hv done a bit better. We just did not bowl the way we shud on helpful pitches. Batting looks aged and fielding has gone down big time. Young guys hv to be brought in n made to feel the pressure in such trying conditions. Dhoni needs to improve his batting on foreign soil; he is not able to inspire the team in any way. Tendulkar shud retire after his 100th century n Dravid, Laxman shud be shown the exit doors immediately. Bring in more fast bowlers. They r d key to winning matches abroad. Duncan Fletcher shud be packed off to Somalia. We dun need him. Hope to see a quick revamp...

  • on January 25, 2012, 21:32 GMT

    When you have people from Pawar to Sreenivason, whose only connection to cricket being the corner paan shop, running cricket, there can be only one eventuality. The scramble now will be typical Indian style, to pass the blame and keep ones position. Every facet of Indian life lacks accountability, and only revolves around showing ones power, occupying a position at any cost, and of course, robbing the coffers till there is nothing left to take. Why should Sachin and his two bridesmaids do anything less. This is the tragedy called India.The biggest joke worldwide, is how a nation can actually still be divided over whether Sachins hundred is more important than the total humiliation of a nation. This play goes on daily in every scenario, from law and order, to politics, cricket, education,sport, and on and on. No its not all Indians, its the bufaoons who sit in high places together with a juvenile press, who sell the country a daily hoax.

  • on January 25, 2012, 21:13 GMT

    Indian players can sing a song show mercy show mercy which could pacify australians

  • ranjeetc on January 25, 2012, 21:09 GMT

    Excellent article ! Everything written here makes absolute sense about the direction test cricket is headed in India ! I follow all forms of cricket, Test being my favorite, I'm not against T20, infact I love watching IPL or any other form of T20 leagues. The problem is the lack of the die hard attitude the Indian IPL "stars" are bringing to an international game. These games in Australia and England don't look hard fought at all, as opposed to the hard work, skill and determination exhibited by the English and the Australians. Our players might think that people would forgive and forget the debacle of these test series and conveniently watch IPL games, but they are seriously mistaken, I think the average audience is starting to lose interest in games where our players/selection committee are not doing anything different each successive game of the series and expecting different results.

  • S.Jagernath on January 25, 2012, 21:07 GMT

    Now that Rahul Dravid,Sachin Tendulkar & VVS Laxman are aged,winning in England,Australia & South Africa is going to extremely difficult.It is sad though,that Dravid's,Tendulkar's & Laxman's averages in Australia are taking a hammering due to them being too old.

  • agamgoyal on January 25, 2012, 20:52 GMT

    Now i somehow feel that the whole concept of number one teams is flawed ...i mean wat is the criteria of icc ranking?? they just look at the victories or defeats or also there margin ?? One thng is for sure India and England ..both don't deserve to be number one atleast now ...as the No. 1 teams are dominant in any condition...be it home or away...like the mighty WI of 70's or the 2000's Aus team....they were exceptional ...they have set the benchmark really really high India is thrashed like anything ..and England too haven't fared that well on slower tracks ( though it might be too early to say ).... I think Aus again will rise to this flawed ICC ranking shortly but not with the same dominance as earlier ... But these rankings do not reflect the true game ..

  • on January 25, 2012, 20:43 GMT

    In india selectors are not fearless, after poor show in england this summer..nothing got change in approach.. They went back to india & beaten england by 5-0 in ODIs, WI by 2-0 in test series ..they became happy & forgot the poor show in england .. To be a best team in world you should have capability to win outside your own backyard, which doesn't seem to be case with india. I am die hard fan of indian cricket team but i seriously feel test cricket is no more indian team cup of tea biggest factor behind it is BCCI money making approach ..which test matches doesn't generate...

  • TheBengalTiger on January 25, 2012, 20:39 GMT

    rickyvoncanterbury- I have a massive amount of respect for Don Bradman. Not only for his cricketing ability, but for his stance on apartheid. My post was to ilustrate the riddiculous attitutde of many austrlaian fans, many of whom dont applaud tendulkar like you say, but insult him and insult the entire indian team.

  • on January 25, 2012, 20:36 GMT

    I see many of my Indian friends in denial/toting the same old line of visitng teams not being able to beat teams in the sub-continet. Well, who cares? It is about our team being good to play on any pitch and perform. I dont expect a miracle and see them playing well on green tops but picthes have not been so bad. Another one, I see many people resorting to old excuses: flat pitches at home, sehwag not moving his feet etc. Havent we been like this always? Wasnt this same team, almost good enough for SA last yr? What really has changed from then? Team is same but the coach is not. Duncan Fletcher - For one, I dont see why the heck we keep having high profile coaches - Greg Chappel and now him when it has been proven our team works best under low profile ones - Wright and Kirsten. Wasnt this the same guy who reduced us to 5-17 led the match astray with his captaincy? Kapil Dev scoring 175. Why do we always have rumors of discontent only with these high profile coaches?Please publish

  • dunger.bob on January 25, 2012, 20:12 GMT

    @KameshRao : I didn't think he was saying that the gr8s are not true champs. That would be crazy talk, obviously they are all ornaments to the game and all have unbelievably good records. I do agree with the sentiment that it would have been nice to see some of that legendary batting throughout this series though. Maybe Sachin can get his ton today (day3). ..... I always thought that Away wins actually earn more points than Home wins. .. Is that not the case ? Even if its not, away wins are precious because as we all know, they are hard to come by. The team that can consistently win Tests or series Away from home will be the number #1 team. ...... Thats why England are currently on top and also why it is going to be very difficult to run them down unless you do win the odd Test or two away from home. ... @ ElvisKing: India came here No 2 in the rankingsI believe. .. Aust are mid table. .. b4 1st Test, heaps of articles from both sides how this was India's "best ever" chance in Oz

  • Shan156 on January 25, 2012, 20:11 GMT

    @wildnaphtha, I agree that it is hard to beat teams in their own backyard these days and there is no team like the Windies of yore. However, remember that England's 0-5 defeat was in ODIs. No one disputes the fact that India are still a very good ODI side, quite possibly the best right now. It is their test performance that matters and India is looking like a poor side. Australia did beat SL in SL recently. SA drew their last two test series in India. England were soundly beaten against Pakistan in the first test but are showing signs of improvement in the second. No top team has lost 7 overseas tests in a row with more than half them innings defeats. You also need to understand that Aus/Eng fans are not celebrating India's downfall. If anything, we should be more worried since cricket needs a strong Indian side. We all know that Eng, Aus and SA are all vulnerable in the sub-continent and have their own problems but India appears to be in free fall and that is more worrying.

  • baskar_guha on January 25, 2012, 20:09 GMT

    In my opinion, none of England, Australia and South Africa can win consistently when playing in the subcontinent which means they are unlikely to be #1 for too long if they get there. India has been found out once their batting cover for their inept bowling was removed in England and Australia. Pakistan are usually well balanced -- thus they have a real chance to be #1 if they can have stable apolitical administration, sincere players and a solid support staff. Of course, it will help if they can play at home, not in the UAE. Sri Lanka also have a chance but need to sort out their cricket administration which for a small island is a mess.

  • baskar_guha on January 25, 2012, 19:58 GMT

    @luck002 - you are on the mark -- prepare all kinds of tracks for domestic matches but not when you are hosting a test series. As to why experts confuse the two is just beyond me. Maybe too many concussions.

  • VickGower on January 25, 2012, 19:44 GMT

    @luck002: Eng & Aus have never been nearly as thoroughly humiliated in India as India has been in Eng/Aus. That is the issue. Aus has won much more in India than India has done in Aus. That is the issue. All teams that have had extended reign at the top of world cricket may or may not have had a good spinner, but they have all had a bunch of good pace bowlers. That is the issue. One has very little chance of developing such a crop when there is very little incentive domestically for anyone to become a fast bowler. As it stands, one pities a youngster who wants to dedicate his life to bowling fast on lifeless or turning pitces of India.

  • immit13 on January 25, 2012, 19:42 GMT

    I don't know what to say but surely this India team in their current form and spirit can't win away against Zimbabwe or Bangladesh for sure. We in India end up giving too much importance to individuals rather than team itself and this mistake of ours is evident everywhere starting from team selection itself...professionalism in sports (for sure in cricket) is needing some attention here!!! Australia too in their current stature is not an old Australian team that dominated supremely, but we just made them look a lot better and gave them a lot of impetus NOW. I wish Sachin get's his 100 somehow even though in a losing cause so that we know if he is still the Sachin we know or if he has lost his aura...I won't judge him until he gets his 100 just for the simple reason that all the hype and hoopla created for this 100th 100 is not allowing him to concentrate on the job at hand. TEAM INDIA, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING LEFT TO LOSE NOW!!! AT LEAST SHOW SOME FIGHTING SPIRIT to earn a DRAW atleast

  • rickyvoncanterbury on January 25, 2012, 19:39 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger Tendulka has recieved standing ovations on every ground in Australia, we know he is a legend, HE has our respect, now bagging BRADMAN you must be the sorest loser in the world.

  • on January 25, 2012, 19:20 GMT

    No seriously guys...there is only ONE problem. No one has any intention of addressing it and people barely mention it. It is not with the coach, not with the 'aging stalwarts' and it is certainly not with the selection.

    It is because of FLAT PITCHES at home...now how hard is that to understand ? Atleast batsmen like Dravid and Sachin used to play on the county ciruit and were exposed to pacy wickets...the younger crop is technically NOT adept at playing on greentops.

  • on January 25, 2012, 19:19 GMT

    Why no one has nothing to say about the great fletcher,who even when he was captaining zimbabwe in 1983 world cup let the match slipout of his hands by resorting to a defensive field when india were 6 down for around 20..He should be shown the door and some attackiing guy like viv richards should be given the chance

  • StatisticsRocks on January 25, 2012, 19:15 GMT

    @Aidan, Since you seem to know more abt our culture than we do, why don't u educate us and what changes we need to bring forth. I

  • on January 25, 2012, 19:14 GMT

    "Most dangerous of all is the indication that India's attitude to overseas results has deteriorated, their desire and resolve waning with the rationalisation that home results count for more than those away - a populist view that has very little to do with the ways of high performance sportsmen." This is what I have been thinking too. Where are the burning effigies? Can someone go stone a few players' houses please? Paint Dravid's wall in Bangalore black? Throw some shoes or something at Laxman? Or at least find Sreesanth and slap him. WTF happened to the famously passionate Indian fan? Go tell these guys how you feel about this. If you don't show anger, they will think you don't care.

  • Shan156 on January 25, 2012, 19:10 GMT

    @VickGower, Ganguly is usually a sane person but his friendship and affection for Harbhajan has got the better of him in this case. Harbhajan has got some chances in Australia in the past at his pomp and was useless. How would he have fared now any better than Ashwin did is anyone's guess.

  • Shan156 on January 25, 2012, 19:07 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger, would that have got anything to do with the fact that Bradman never played in the sub-continent? If yes, would that be his fault? Did he refuse to play? If you want to nitpick, then I can say that Tendulkar never proved his worth at Lord's. Sounds silly, doesn't it? I am not sure why Indian fans get so defensive about the quirk that Dan mentions. The 100 international tons is a great achievement but so will 99 and so will 51 test tons and so will 48 ODI tons. Dan is not putting down Sachin here. He simply says that it is weighing down Sachin and affecting his batting.

  • on January 25, 2012, 18:56 GMT

    hey bring ganguly,sunil gawasker,mohindernath. and build up great cricket team for india.iam not talking about consultants,but players, India deserve this.bcos when they play home soils.they r bullies.Ps one more thing.lets sachin leave cricket for sometime and come back and play when Ireland plays against india where he can make his 100th 100.lol.

  • Precioustar84 on January 25, 2012, 18:48 GMT

    @DeepSixed - "As a fan base you deserve better - every country in the world enjoys playing India, and no small part of that is due to the amazing fans. That the BCCI and the Indian test team treat overseas series with such contempt is an insult to you all." Completely agree with you on this part of your comment but majority Indian fans HAVE said what the problem is with Team India yet it goes unnoticed easily. What is noticed by most commentators on this website is one bad comment from one or two Indians and everyone seems to jump the gun thinking its the ENTIRE Indian community. People hardly care to reply to something they agree with and rather reply to something they disagree with and highlight it. Anyway, BCCI is fooling around with the fanatics, and they see nothing, hear nothing and obviously say nothing as they leave their Kathputlis(string puppets) to do all that. Cricinfo please publish

  • NScriclove on January 25, 2012, 18:30 GMT

    I think Indian selector doesn't like changes and it's not only about selector but we need new captain too for test cricket. Straight 7 loose in overseas is not a joke. I was shocked to see no changes in this test match. Rohit sharma and ojha are much better player then laxman and Ashwin. I feel Dhoni dominate Indian team and selectors too. Thats y his chennai super king players get more opportunity then any other New Players like Murli vijay(play for chennai super king). He is in the team from 2 years and never scored more then 30 runs but he still open 20-20 games sometime. This is the best time to take some steps to make this team better for future like pakistan and australian team took bringing young players. They do struggled in the beginning but now these 2 teams r the best teams in the world.

  • big_al_81 on January 25, 2012, 18:24 GMT

    How is the Australian team 'almost unrecognisable from the one that started 2010-11. I know Daniel Brettig is pretty new on Cricinfo but I wasn't aware he hadn't seen last year's Ashes series at all. Or has he, like many Australians forgotten that Ben Hilfenhaus (the demon bowler), Peter Siddle, Ryan Harris, Brad Haddin, Ricky Ponting, Michael Clarke and Michael Hussey were all involved some throughout, but all for part of that series - same places, different results. Getting carried away perhaps? I also enjoyed the implication that England's task was easier than Australia's because India were weakened (by the loss of Khan and Sehwag! Sehwag? wouldn't we all prefer him in the opposition so we can get a guaranteed early wicket these days?) and that they're a bit better because they bowl a bit faster but do just as much with the ball as England. Calm down! Australia remain a work in progress, but good progress nonetheless.

  • rahulcricket007 on January 25, 2012, 18:18 GMT

    @INDNCRICFAN . yes pak has produced good bowlers always . but does pak have green pitches in their own backyard ? NO , THEY ALSO HAS THE SAME FLAT TRACKS LIKE INDIA . but their bowlers know how to take wkts on dead tracks too . look how gul destroyed eng top order in second innings at dubai . we need to learn tricks from pakistani bolwers . I M SAYING AGAIN REMOVE ERIC SIMMONS & MAKE WASIM AKRAM OUR BOWLING COACH & WE WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE .

  • on January 25, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    India- a team of Champions- NOT A CHAMPION TEAM !!

  • happy-go-lucky on January 25, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    @luck002

    No one is saying to prepare lively wickets when AUS/ENG/SA tour India. What we want is pace friendly wickets in U19 and domestic matches so that young and upcoming players learn to play in both spinning and bouncy, seaming wickets. Right now our players are playing all their cricket on spinning flat tracks, so their technique is tuned to that, you cannot change that overnight when you tour to AUS/ENG/SA. Its an amazing coincidence that we had the talent of Scahin, Dravid, Laxman together in the same team. You'll realize that in the coming years.

  • Rumy1 on January 25, 2012, 18:03 GMT

    So we saw more of the same. Enough man.Time to rest Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin and Laxman. Clearly, Sehwag is the most irresponsible player in team. This is proved time and again. Good time to bring Jaffer, Badrinath, Pujara and Kaif for the Test series at home. Wasim Jaffer, Badri and Pujara would be a great blend. Kaif would be a great addition as well. Kaif has always been a captaincy material. Make him the Captain. Besides youngsters, you need some experience too. Both Kaif and Jaffer are in early 30s.Sounds much better than greats in 38s / 39s. Time to blood in Rohit Sharma too.Bring back Harbhajan. Ashwin remains an avg. Ranji level offie who has carrom ball. Ashwin stands sorted out by international batsmen including lesser mortals like Bravo,Chanderpaul, Russel, Rampaul, etc. Pragyan Ojha should also be brought back in. He is a much better bowler with lot more variation and skills than this Srikanth favorite - Ashwin.Time to confirm Saha as wk and bring I.Khaleel as 2nd wk

  • on January 25, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    Problem with us is that we love 2 live in denial. Rather than admitting the fact that our team was found wanting under trying conditions, we will loat about our World Cup and home wins and IPL and what not. Some would want to recall Ganguly, some would merely be interested in the 'elusive' 100th ton. Which of these is a progressive thought, really? Wish we learnt from the Aussies, accepted that we were mediocre and worked upon it.

  • KTiwari on January 25, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    Definition of insanity says trying same steps again and again but expecting different outputs. That's what our Insane BCCI and captains has been trying. If Rahul, Laxman and Sehwag are out of form then why not give them rest. Let them come back on performance. Rahul and Laxman don't want to retire then fine but can not be in the team based on this abject performance. We should have played Ojha instead of Ishant. Ganguly mentioned about Ojha several time before the start of the test.

    Sehwag is not a capataincy material and he does not want captaincy but then BCCI will give only to him. Thanks havens that I am in USA so by the time I wake up the torcher is over for the day.

  • on January 25, 2012, 17:56 GMT

    You're never better than the opposition allows you to be - Australia look this good because India ALLOW them to, India look far worse than they actually are because Australia DENY them to look good, even when the result is beyond doubt. Indian cricketers seemingly lack the burning desire to dominate their opposition of other teams to have been ranked as number 1, the will to grind your opponents into the dust at every given opportunity. Alas, when things go against India, they seem resigned to fatalistic acceptance. Remember Eknath Solkar's 1974 Indians in England, another occasion when India went into a high-profile series with high expectations and failed as badly?

  • Rahulbose on January 25, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    India will soon quit playing test cricket. T20 is the way to go.

  • Leggie on January 25, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    @Rooboy - By the same yardstick, some of Bradman's centuries came against hapless Indian attacks when they were still minnows of world cricket. At least from a statistical perspective, do we not count them? Or for that matter if someone were to ask you how many international hundreds Ponting has made, what would be your answer??? A century is a century as long as it is played against an international side. To get to 99 centuries is a phenomenal achievement and *if* Sachin gets to 100 100s it's something that no cricketer has achieved and *WILL* be a great landmark.

  • Leggie on January 25, 2012, 17:40 GMT

    @Auditor2012 - what about the great pup's batting and the Punters. On lifeless Adelaide pitches they look extraordinary - while in Perth and Melbourne when there was something for the bowlers both looked terrible. Are you so short sighted that you forget the 47 all out so soon?? Or the failed chased against "minnows" New Zealand. Aussie batting is no better and we'll soon figure out how fragile this batting line-up is. These great batting performances are nothing more than a mirage

  • NScriclove on January 25, 2012, 17:37 GMT

    I feel Indian selector doesn't like changes, thats y they keep selecting same team who's loosing their all matches overseas. I was surprised with selector for picking up ashwin and Laxman for this test match. Rohit sharma is better player and ojha is better bowler then y ashwin. I feel Dhoni dominate the indian team and selectors. I think ashwin is getting more chances bcoz he play for chennai super king team. Same goes for murali vijay...he is in indian team for more then 2 years and he never scored more then 30 runs but he is still in the team bcoz he play for chennai super king. My point is we need new selectors and new young captain like virat kohli ...I know india won world cup with him but believe me if this world cup was overseas then india not even qualified for quarter finals....

  • on January 25, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    DENIAL: Ashwin, Ishant giving "All OK" statements and coach saying "we need luck" ANGER/RESENTMENT/REVENGE: Batsmen get frustrated and throw their wicket to nothing balls. You'll see this in upcoming one-day series. BARGAIN: "I just need to work harder - I will focus on gaining form playing on Ranji belters..". BCCI sacking a few.. DEPRESSION: "I blew it up..". Multiple retirements follow.. ACCEPTANCE: Another successful IPL season! We are good at batting 10-overs and bowling 4 overs. That brings us $$$. Who cares about tests and game.

  • VickGower on January 25, 2012, 17:24 GMT

    "None [Yadav & Ashwin] of them are the finished article, but how much better might they have been with earlier opportunities?"

    A heavy blow to an already tortured heart was to hear Ganguly do one of those infuriating hindsight maneuvers during his commentary. He offered that a mistake India made was to pick Ashwin over Harbhajan! I held my head and thought: Oh My God, this is the next generation of cricket custodians that await us. All men of reason recognizing that youth has been sacrificed to coddle seniors too long; Ganguly suggesting we recede further away from youth.

  • luck002 on January 25, 2012, 17:13 GMT

    Also I can't understand y every "cricket expert" is advising IND to prepare seaming and bouncy pitches in IND to cope with conditions overseas.Common guys,did AUS prepare slow,spin friendly wickets at home after IND defeated them in 2 successive series.Did ENG do the same after being defeated by IND or will they prepare slow pitches at home after being defeated by PAK?Every team has some home conditions and they exploit it.Success on overseas tours depends on how quickly a team adapts to foreign conditions.If one team hopes to be no.1,it has to adapt to different conditions,not replicate foreign conditions at home.If a team does not adapt to away conditions,including sub-continent(which some overseas fans seam to forget),then the players are not skillful,as simple as that.

  • Amar_bw on January 25, 2012, 17:13 GMT

    Here is my analysis: India is flat track bullies, while AUS is fast track bullies. There is no change in AUS team performance, if you are comparing it with NZ and ENG. NZ and ENG and even SA can still be superiod to AUS. It is the Indian team who is out of form. Laxman and Dravid are clearly getting old. Sehwag and Gambhir are obious flat track bullies, I am sure when they start playing in India, their routine performance will resume. Tendulkar is in the middle, with so much hype about his 100th century that he is distracted. Other like Kohli and R Sharma have a lot of potential and Kohli proved it. They should get more chances. By the way, once Kumble has retired, our bowling has lost the killing spirit.

  • on January 25, 2012, 16:59 GMT

    All have spoke about changes that needs to happen in Indian cricket setup but I feel change starts from us, so I am going to stop watching cricket for sometime, can I really do that? Let us see, we will win few matches in the 1 day series and we will forget about test cricket ;)

  • luck002 on January 25, 2012, 16:58 GMT

    For the last decade,IND had elevated their performances overseas.Last 2-3 years they had even begun to consistently win or draw overseas.BUT LAST TWO TOURS HAVE BEEN HELL.Congrats to AUS.They have shown more intent and played with more skill than the under-performing and poor-in-confidence IND.But to call the IND players flat track bullies is relective of the over-confidence of some fans who think their teams have earned the right to be called no.1 after home victories in pitches favouring them. The same teams have lost badly when they have toured IND in so-called "flat tracks". The pitches in IND have been very flat for last 3-4 years.Just imagine the scoreline when IND prepares spin-friendly pitches or "rank turners".

  • TheBengalTiger on January 25, 2012, 16:56 GMT

    The real 'quirk' is Bradmans average. He never proved his worth on the subcontinent. Not once. tendulkar has proven many times that he can bat in any conditons, wheras Bradman didnt

  • clive_horton on January 25, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    @rahulcricket007.... don't know if you've noticed, but your caps lock is stuck.

  • TamilIndian on January 25, 2012, 16:48 GMT

    Its simple - we need to do the same thing for the test side what was done after the world cup debacle in West Indies. In my opinion it is exactly the same scenario - everyone was saying India will definitely win given the mountain for 'experience' and we all know what happened :-)

  • cricketsage on January 25, 2012, 16:39 GMT

    Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman should gracefully exit from international cricket, lets say after next home series, so they can get one more shot to leave with a memorable innings. C'mon Tendulkar, you don't need the 100th 100 to prove anything. Its a meaningless statistic. I suspect all the hype about it has gotten to his head and distracted him from his main job.

    And the point about energetic fielding was very apt. Indian team appeared listless and lacking in intensity. They were just going through the motions, as if the pitch was the last place they wanted to be. Sad but true.

    Sub continent teams, apart from Sri Lanka I would say, were never known for fielding prowess, which I suspect is a cultural thing. As Wasim Akram pointed out, in his days, practice consisted of batting and bowling. Period. Fielding was just something you had to do during a match.

  • praveenchopra on January 25, 2012, 16:28 GMT

    i am sure indians come tommorrow with a good plan and tendulkar will score a double century,maybe we will win this game comfortably,who knows

  • on January 25, 2012, 16:25 GMT

    this team must be overhauled right from top to bottom. no mercy what so ever with respect to their past performances. will BCCI do it ??

  • A.Ak on January 25, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    Shewag and Ghambhir failure puts too much pressure on Dravid and Sachin. I haven't seen opening pair putting up a stand for 25 or 30 overs in recent times. Then after these two, VVS, Dhoni and Kholi/Raina/Yuvi all flattened in overseas conditions. If we look at the 3 overseas tours, ONLY Dravid managed to score a hundred in WI and ENG. Still none in Aus.

  • zico123 on January 25, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    neither of Dravid or laxman have to retire completely, but selectors should give more opportunity to younger players like Rohit, Kohli, Pujara, Rahane in test matches against weaker opponents and rotating the senior players, that way youngstars would get test exposure first against weaker teams, and then against stronger team you can pick best 11 on form.

  • amarnath79 on January 25, 2012, 15:57 GMT

    Ashwin conceded the maximum runs in one inning in the hisotry of Adelaide Oval! Mr. Monga calls his bowling a bright spot. Are you kidding me?

  • kishorekr on January 25, 2012, 15:54 GMT

    True! True! True! Well said. Seniors have overstayed. Have now to face the ignominy of being asked to go. New crop is nowhere near ready. Indian players fancy playing international ODI and T20 as opposed to Test matches, that too in domestic conditions. BCCI has no plans for developing Test teams for the future. Yes, one sordid tale of woe. Feels just like the dismal decades of the past when Indian cricket's few and far between bright moments were strictly the preserve of Indian home soil.

  • zico123 on January 25, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    lets give the Test captaincy to Gambhir, who knows may be captaincy will bring best out of him and he will start scoring tons after tons again, just like Clarke is doing now.

  • StatisticsRocks on January 25, 2012, 15:50 GMT

    @Rahul007: Do u hear yourself. This is the team or product that India put on the field and India is failing as an Indian team not as North Indn team or South Indn team. My problem is not whether we have bowlers who are better than Vinay Kumar and Mithun but DO WE HAVE BOWLERS THAT CAN COMPETE AT INTERNATIONAL LEVEL in TEST MATCHES ( I dont care abt ODI's and 20-20's) and the answer is NO and it is no MYSTERY given the pitches that we have in our country and the fact that every one wants to become a batsmen suited for IPL only. I only can sit and wonder how PAK day in and day out keep producing fantastic fast bowlers, need to take a page or two from them.

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 25, 2012, 15:48 GMT

    Drop all non-performers from test team - VIRU, LAX, THE HOLE, ISHANT DHONI and SELFISHKAR. Play the youngsters like Rahane, Rohit, Mukund, Manoj Tiwary, Dinesh Karthik, Ashok Dinda, Irfan Pathan, etc. They will play with more responsibility than this losing bunch of overpaid clowns.

  • AidanFX on January 25, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    India can prepare dustbowls and make it turn and so forth - this Aus will beat them (as well other teams). Pitches matter don't get me wrong - but there are issues with the tenacity of India. 'Near enough' and 'almost' is good enough. There is no improvement in the team. The Aus side IS different to 2010/11 - And yes I am aware of the 47 (almost less) and the NZ loss (by a few runs) - but every game they have played post in argus has featured positives and I dare say those losses were not as bad as Ashes losses and some of the performances prior to the Ashes. The team still far from perfected has showed constant signs of progression. India on the other hand need to make whole sale changes if they are sincere because there are serious cultural problems and it is glaringly obvious for the outsider.

  • Love-Pak on January 25, 2012, 15:29 GMT

    PLAT TRACK BULLIES....thats what Indian batsmen are and they have proven this again and again whenever they have played on little bit seeming and bouncy pitches. Most of their records are on Indian dead pitches, they are lions on Indian pitches but once they do play out side the subcontinent they become just like mouse.

  • on January 25, 2012, 15:07 GMT

    It's time for India to make some drastic changes to their lineup, as well as coaches and selectors. Dravid and Laxman should be made to retire, and Sehwag, Dhoni and Ishant dropped for their disgraceful performances in the past 6 months. I would go with two spinners in all games except if there is a greentop. Rahane, Gambhir (c), Pujara, Tendulkar, Kohli, Rohit, Saha, Ashwin/Pathan, Zaheer, Yadav/Aaron, Ohja

  • MrSlickJerk on January 25, 2012, 14:56 GMT

    India team is playing like they are playing test cricket for the first time. After getting three-four wickets in a row they just cant get the tail-enders out. there's no attack in the bowling and field setting. Poor strategy, poor body language. They dropped many catches. There are so many problems with this team. Hope to see some contest in the ODI and T-20 format.

  • rahulcricket007 on January 25, 2012, 14:55 GMT

    @INDCRICFAN . I M SAYING THIS ON THE BASIS OF EVIDENCES . WHY WAS VINAY KUMAR &MITHUN SELECTED IN TEAM WHEN ALL PEOPLE KNOW THEY WILL HARDLY TROUBLE ANY BATSMEN . WHY IRFAN WAS NOT SELECTED ???? WHY MURALI VIJAY WAS RETAINED IN THE TEAM FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS ? EVEN THOUGH WHEN HE WAS FLOP MOST TIMES ????? DURING THE GANGULY ERA , THE PLAYERS THAT WERE FROM SOUTH WERE OUSTANDING PLAYERS & THEY PERFORM WELL . BUT TODAY THE PLAYERS ARE NOT OF THAT LEVEL . I ASK THIS QUESTION TO YOU . DOES INDIA DON'T HAVE BOWLERS BETTER THAN VINAY & MITHUN ?????

  • on January 25, 2012, 14:55 GMT

    Okay it's time for me to put my two cents worth in i have read all of your comments but now i want you all too sit back an think of this.How about the preparation received from India coming into this series all they had was a couple of TWO day matches against okay fair to middle of the road players (c'mon think about it they wont play for Australia agin the players chosen)Then they were thrust onto a different playing surface an got belted.The English they arrived in Aussie 3-4 weeks before the first test started getting used to the weather an so on AN LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.So please do not JUST blame the players also blame the lack of planning of ALL tours

  • ahweak on January 25, 2012, 14:54 GMT

    It hurts to say this as an Indian, but Indian athletes are both mentally and physically still some ways behind in terms of being able to compete at any sport on the global scale 'on a consistent basis'. The difference in fielding intensity between India and other sides has always been so obvious to see. Our so called future player, Ashwin was very sloppy on the field yesterday and this is his FIRST test series. Once the batting heavyweights are gone, India's gloom will indeed get darker.

  • on January 25, 2012, 14:50 GMT

    LOL...this was bound to happen...how idiotic...no change...all the maharathis have to go ...Dravid gets bowled again, Sachin still doing a Kapil, Laxman if we followed same standards applied on Ganguly should have been dropped after English test for that you need Selectors with vision....I would not be surprised if these guys play next text too...

  • Rooboy on January 25, 2012, 14:42 GMT

    Yeah it's a quirk. When 21 of those tons come against the might of Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Kenya and Namibia, the feat of 100 international 100s is rendered meaningless. Sensitive indian fans, note - this is not to decry Tendulkar, he is one of the greats and no one can argue that. He has achieved many exceptional personal milestones .... just don't think 100 100's is anywhere near the highest of his accomplishments

  • Yevghenny on January 25, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    after last weeks magnificent test victory, it's back down to earth with a bump for Indians

  • wildnaphtha on January 25, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    "The Australia of 2011-12 is nearly unrecognisable from that of 2010-11"-didnt they get all out for less than 50? Didnt they get beaten by NZ? England gloated when India was beaten 4-0 in England. Vaughan questioned their test status and Boycott said India played like Bangladesh. Look what happened when England came to India for ODIs-5-0 loss. Now see whats going on against Pakistan? They lost against Ireland in WC in India. Let Austalia visit India and with the same old gang India can beat them. The truth is cricket has become a territorial game.Home teams are hard to beat. The mightly WI of 70s beat everyone everywhere. Not the ICC ranked teams! People from England and Australia-kKeep gloating about the misfortune of India, for now. This is your opportunity. India has to rebuild with younger players.

  • thinktank1 on January 25, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    This Indian team is going to struggle for another 3 years. 2 decades ago there wasn't much money as it is now.. players used to learn good technique and had that killing instinct.. Now Indian players are getting money like free air and they are not bothering about solid technique and fitness.. Nooooooooooo Passssssion..... That's it.

  • dravid_rules on January 25, 2012, 14:37 GMT

    Which is the SILLIEST team in world cricket today? INDIA. Not Bangladesh, not Zimbabwe. I would venture, not even USA. To continue with Laxman after a 7 Test pounding, borders on the ludicrous. To continue with Dravid after all those stumps flying about is preposterous. And the less said about Sehwag at the top of the order, the better. In 8 matches abroad, India have not even TRIED anything. Forget about doing something. They have not even tried anything. Silly is letting them off easy. Now, I would like to see the full selection committee, especially Srikanth take a hike, and the players Dravid, Laxman, Dhoni, Sehwag retire from Test cricket. Dhoni wanted to take a call in 2013. I say - Why wait? Sehwag said - I will try down the order. I say - Why bother? Just let them all go. It took just 4 months of mindlessness to completely undo 8 years of the "Golden Age of indian Cricket". PATHETIC!!!!

  • Nampally on January 25, 2012, 14:36 GMT

    @karthik_raja: Sir, the first step to improvement is to understand your own limitations. This Indian team has shown how much it lacks in all departments of the game.Mental attitude is as important as the physical fitness. When an experienced batting line up has no mental toughness, they cannot perform successfully. Look at the way these guys are getting out. They are finding a way of getting out rather than standing tall at the crease whilst the Aussie batsmen are finding a way to score & stay there.There is a sharp contrast between the 2 teams - India on self destructive path! So please do not blame the messenger for his honesty.I am a staunch Indian fan and feel so sad watching how pathetic this team has been. I predicted a 2-0 series win for India at the start, even knowing that this team is missing at least 3 guys - 2 all rounders & a wrist leg spinner.But I did not expect such thoughtless selection of XI + fragile mental attitude. No team can win matches with this Losing attitude!

  • on January 25, 2012, 14:29 GMT

    Coach is a foriegner, bowling coach is foriegn, then I think we should have a foreign selection committee as well.

  • Nampally on January 25, 2012, 14:23 GMT

    Another lethargic lack-lustre performance from the Indian team on Day 2. With score at 530 for 7 they could not even get the tail enders out!. Whilst Haddin & Harris put on over 75 runs ,unbeaten stand, Yet the Indian top line ended the day with 61 for 2 wkts. This alone shows how doleful & sick the Indian attitude is !. Indian batsmen will find a way of getting out however docile the pitch is. These guys need a lot of training in upgrading their mental toughness before they are allowed to play in the tests again. Indian cricket needs a wholesale change at all levels to make it a contending team. They need a new Captain at the helm who provides leadership & motivation to the players on the field. Both Dhoni & Sehwag failed miserably.A new coach who is moulded in the same cast as Kirsten & who can inspire the players for aiming @ a batting score >30!.Similarly Srikant & CO.need to resign ASAP, to make room for a more progressive team of Selectors like Kumble, Kapil, Ganguly & Gavaskar.

  • on January 25, 2012, 14:22 GMT

    It is sad to see the ageing stars struggling to get in terms under alien conditions which not so long ago they exelled in peforming admirably. The reason and lession one get is the need to give chance to youngsters early and thorugh plan (not an IPL one) on these issues. Moreover, we should emphasis on allrounders as a backup instead of tailenders who fails miserably under pressure. The selectors should take the responsibility and respect the ageing stars and allow them to reitre hounourably rather than make them suffer under difficult conditions and it is also necessary that test team should have entirely different compositon than the ODI and T-20.

  • on January 25, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    Very Impressive. Well written.

  • on January 25, 2012, 14:09 GMT

    Why waste an article of one page and write the same stuff again and again. The Indian team selected did not carry talents; they carried only "HYPE". It is the media hype to cash in on the TV audience and make money. Do you think anyone at BCCI or the so called selection committee has the guts and drop Dravid, Tendulakr, Laxman for the matter Mr.Dhoni? Tell me have one innings of Tendulakar -which was as authoritative like Ricky Ponting or Michael Clarke today at Adelaide- even against a team like Bangladesh

  • csowmi7 on January 25, 2012, 14:09 GMT

    Tendulkar's hundredth hundred is by no means a statistical quirk. It is something that no person would have ever deemed possible at the advent of cricket. That being said the media created pressure and hype is totally unnecessary and is creating a mental block for the master blaster. If this century is a statistical quirk then lara's 400, bradman's 99.94 avg, tendulkar's 200*, murali's 800 wickets are also a statistical quirks.

  • on January 25, 2012, 14:08 GMT

    I am jut surprised with the luminosity every cricket fan says that test cricket is the pinnacle. Yet that's the stage where there is the least viewership ..People are finicky and want to watch fast entertaining cricket--nobody wants to see drudgery draws. Even if the Indian greats clicked what then??.But lets talk about the current situation. The greats would continue until the next time--and then India is faced with the same problem again. It's good that this has happened now as we can now enter the rebuilding stage. Let's remember the greats for the roles they played and move on to a newer team--A team with a desire to do better than these greats. I hear what Ganguly says from the commentators chair and there seems to be glee in his voice indicating that he was thankful for retiring earlier. The changes we would like to see is get a new captain--thrust some youngster into this role and see how it works out. Graeme smith never played any major cricket before he took up the cha

  • StatisticsRocks on January 25, 2012, 14:07 GMT

    @ Rahul007 : I am embarassed by your comments abt players from South North etc...Its coz of ppl like u we r still struglling to find unity in one Ind. pl comment as an Indn not AS North Indn or South Indn. By the way When ganguly was captain he had at one time 6 players from one state in South including the gr8 Kumble, Srinath, Dravid, and the list goes on. This is an Indian team that is performing bad not a South/North Indian team. Your comments are more worse and hurtful than Indias performance coz losing is ok, its the manner in which this team is losing that concerns me. @Rahul_78 I wonder why you are calling only on VVS and Dravid and not Sehwag who has also failed miserably along with MSD. You didn't lose respect for Gambhir, SRT after their pathetic performances in Eng, did u now. Also u guys forgot to give due credit to this Aus team as they truly deserve to win. They now, and Eng before, are showing us how to prepare and play test cricket.

  • on January 25, 2012, 13:59 GMT

    India don't seem to have a burning ambition to win. Their spirits when fielding in batsman-friendly conditions are the worst among test-playing nations. There's no sense of pro-activeness when it comes to tactics on the field. Dhoni's a fantastic captain, but he's suited to the shorter format of the game, where a fielding side needs to focus on stemming runs. The defensive fields are absolutely disgraceful, there seems a sense of resignation on a flat pitch. Look at Pakistan in the UAE - their quicks are successful even on flat pitches.

    There also needs to be some forward planning with selection. One of the big 3 should go after this series, and by the time the next season of tours starts (Nov. 2013) we need to have a fully blooded young middle order with some experience (playing the home tests against Eng. and Aus. will help here). Ishant sharma is very overrated, he bowls too short&wide. He can't be unlucky for 43 tests. He needs to go away and focus on hitting the top of offstump.

  • StatisticsRocks on January 25, 2012, 13:55 GMT

    Well written article. There should have been some urgency in the camp when this team lost to Eng 4-0, but BCCI doesn't care. They are buried under heaps of $$ thanks to the IPL. Either India should ban IPL or stop playing test cricket as this is outright embarassment. Gutless performance. When Aussies are bowling it suddenly seems that a flat trak has jumped to life. That shows how disciplined and determined these Aussie bowlers are. No doubt they are way better than Indian counterparts. One Aussie batsmen score is enough to bowl this Indian team twice for crying out loud. Clarke could have declared at 300 for 3 and still gain a first innings lead. Major revamp is is needed if BCCI really cares. The cricketing fans in Eng and Aus were looking forward to this matchup with the World Champions. We owe u guys an appology for this embarassing performance. SL and PAK are doing the sub continent proud with their recent performances. SL lost, but they fought hard.

  • ElvisKing on January 25, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    Did I miss reading those taunts from Kohli and Ishant or is Daniel Brettig cooking them up! I thought they were handing back the compliments they got from the Australian players and that is very common. Just because the Indian top players have not clicked in this series or in England you can write ridiculous things about these players. As for the selection they thought Laxman would get back on groove in Australia, his happy hunting ground, Dravid had played exceedingly well in England and Sachin has been very much in fine touch, but for some decisions which did not go his way. Taking in all these into consideration this article does not do justice to the trio. It was not that India were a stronger side coming to play in Australia, after the 4-0 drubbing in England they should not have been billed so, it was only because the Australians lost a Test Match to New Zealand , that Australian media dimmed them weaker side. You cant blame the Indian team if they dreamt of winning here.

  • forcricket on January 25, 2012, 13:40 GMT

    @indianpunter, you echoed my thoughts except that you did not mention Sachin's name in list of players who should end their careers.

  • redneck on January 25, 2012, 13:39 GMT

    firstly who says indias going to start winning at home after this series? if this is how they respond to a challenge? and kohlis comments to batsman about playing in india suggest the team believe they can just rock up and win because they are playing at home? the reality check handed out by eng and aus doesnt seem to have even slightly sunk in! even when india arrived here they saw what england did here last summer and what new zealand did in hobart and just expected it to be the same. the problem is they didnt take note of all the prep work england did here before hand. the english side was here a month before the first test even before australia got back from their indian tour. england went and got a specialist fielding coach and worked hard on drills. team india believe their too good and too rich to be bothered with such a trivial matter as fielding! its sad that the only fit and agile player in the field is a player who debuted in the 80's!!!!!!!!

  • RogerC on January 25, 2012, 13:39 GMT

    Only a few weeks back, Australian media was calling for the heads of Ponting and Hussey. Now all is forgotten. Nobody even thinks about the day this very same Australian team that went 21-9. Same will happen when Dravid, Laxman or Sachin score runs in India against NZ and England. They will become heroes again.

  • RSBali on January 25, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    All this talk about big four or five in the Indian media has created too much hype. No player is above the prestige of the country. All non performing players should be dropped immediately new players inducted in the team. Selection should be purly based on performance. We are loosing future Gavaskars and Tendulars by making them carry drinks. BCCI should be restructured to improve the standard of cricket played overseas and not only in Indian conditions. India should prepare fast and furious pitches to play domestic cricket. Coachs needs to be proactive in voicing their concern about the players. Get Greg Chappell or like back else it will be same story all the time when Indian team leaves its shores. We need a revolution similar to the one after the 2007 world cup that woke up BCCI from its slumber and arogant attitute. ICL shook BCCI to its core and they had to start IPL. BCCI management having conflict of interest should resign. It is a national crisis and deal it on war footing.

  • on January 25, 2012, 13:32 GMT

    @karthik_raja: havent you seen this kind of articles against England after their loss to Pakistan in three days in Dubai

  • DeepSixed on January 25, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    @Mitcher - Couldn't have said it better myself. Classic persecution complex cases. I love the Indian fans' passion for their team, but can you find one of them to take an objective view of their team without turning around and saying 'Ah, well your team is this' or 'It's because the replay system is that'. Face it - your team is a disgrace - and I know what one looks like, having been a suffering England fan for 25 years. Your team hasn't looked like it has actually cares about the result in any of the last 8 overseas tests it has played. As a fan base you deserve better - every country in the world enjoys playing India, and no small part of that is due to the amazing fans. That the BCCI and the Indian test team treat overseas series with such contempt is an insult to you all.

  • Newbury_1 on January 25, 2012, 13:13 GMT

    karthik_raja: A slightly narrow view.....take the time to read the articles regarding Engs recent loss inside 3 days to Pakistan!...just athought that is....

  • KameshRao on January 25, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    Mr Brettig, Nice article except it is all Balderdash!!!. Just because the Greats (read Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman) are having a lean series does not make them any less champions - does not matter what the Australian public or indeed any other public think (read may think because this is your personal opinion... Tendulkar would not be getting the sort of ovation if you are right!). Pete Sampras won precious little towards the end of his career.. I dont think the Tennis world considers him any less of a champion. It was not too long ago when the likes of you have been writing obituaries for Ricky Ponting and Mike Hussey... look at how they have turned it around..if it was not for the two of them in Melbourne the scoreline in this series could have been very different. Even Clarke for all his runs has only scored on flat pitches this series. Finally about India's attitude about overseas vs domestic performance, domestic wins in India are no less creditable no matter what you may think!.

  • on January 25, 2012, 12:37 GMT

    very well written Mr.Brettig..n i agree about the point where u talk abt.statistical quirk..wsh our selectors and short-sighted countrymen cud see the validity of ur points.

  • addicted_to_chaos on January 25, 2012, 12:31 GMT

    @ karthik_raja on (January 25 2012, 10:57 AM GMT): When was last time Eng, Aus or SA lost 7 test overseas in a row?? please note that more than half of them were innings defeats..... its not only about that they lost, but more about the way they lost.....

  • addicted_to_chaos on January 25, 2012, 12:25 GMT

    @ karthik_raja on (January 25 2012, 10:57 AM GMT): When was last time Eng, Aus or SA lost 7 test overseas in a row?? please note that more than half of them were innings defeats..... its not only about that they lost, but more about the way they lost.....

  • on January 25, 2012, 12:24 GMT

    Time is ripe for old guards to step aside with grace now and BCCI should look further ahead in bringing combination of Steve Waugh and Stephen Fleming to coach. Kris is scared of old guards because of their aura and as result should be replaced by Anil Kumble.

  • Slysta on January 25, 2012, 12:12 GMT

    @TheBengalTiger, Tendulkar's 100th hundred IS a statistical quirk, and so is Bradman's average. The fact that Bradman's average is very close to 100 is neither here nor there. What matters is that it is 50% higher than anyone else who ever played the game... that is the truest available measure of his worth. Same for Tendulkar - this 100th hundred is a trinket that cheapens all his other, much more worthwhile achievements.

  • KARGIL on January 25, 2012, 12:09 GMT

    PLEASE KICK OUT SEHWAG. everyone is making an effort,GAMBHIR has tried to make changes and atleast is getting starts. Dravid is trying but has somehow developed flaws.Kohli is developing.Laxman is completely out of sorts,but you can read that hes practicing and doing nets.BUT THIS MAN SEHWAG WITH THAT SH.... GRIN,and everyone just says thats his style of play.WHAT the hell,you play for the team and not for your own.an entertaining 100 every 10 games.no team wants it.consistently scoring 40-45 even hard fought is good enough.OPENING IS KEY IN TESTS.Akash chopra was brilliant in 2003-4.SEHWAG has ZERO technique.ANY average bowler can take his wicket in tests.PLEASE KICK HIM OUT.

  • hell_storm2004 on January 25, 2012, 11:57 GMT

    The team should be taught some manners first. These young brats are average cricketers and their arrogance is even more annoying than the Aussie behavior. Have stopped watching cricket ever since Dhoni took over the team and so many idiots filled the team. Aggression is one thing, ludicrous behavior is another.

  • on January 25, 2012, 11:48 GMT

    Amidst all this rubble the man who deserves a lot of (if not the most)bit of flak is getting away unnoticed--Eric the non -bowling coach of India!!!!!A huge dis(credit)for India's shoddy on field performance goes to him.people seem to blame only the aged batsmen who are guilty all the same BUT indian bowlers run in and appear to be going through the motion and all Eric does is "throw downs" for Indian batsmen..(they expect these chucks on the field and get out..well..he has a hand there as well..)Hilfenahus looks a new bowler major credit goes to Craig Mcdermott same applies to Siddle..the difference between this Aus line up and the hapless one 12 months ago is the sustained pressure they maintain THROUGHOUT the day..if Troy Cooley was still the bowling coach..well....BCCI.. please react we know you are not proactive but at least be reactive...time for Simmons to be shown the door.wanted :Replacements for him and Paddy Upton..its clear Indians are down psychologically as well....

  • eyballfallenout on January 25, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    @ karthik_raja Fact is that they put up a much better show than india have here. If his series was 2-1 you wouldn't see these articles.

  • on January 25, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    India wasted English and Australian summers..the matches have been complete farce..England were made to look like 80s WI(see now how they fare against Pak in UAE)...plans to host 4 test match series against India in England and Aus should be revisited..is anyone listening..if they are not upto playing test cricket for 5 days (forget winning or even drawing the game)..why this waste of time and effort for fans..Bring on more matches against any other nation who takes cricket seriously(eg;NZ should have been a 3 match series at least..)Indians can play and HOST IPL,ICL,CCL ..and what the hell.please publish...

  • TheBengalTiger on January 25, 2012, 11:39 GMT

    Good article, apart from the criticism of tendulkar. The record he is going to acheive is no mere statistical quirk] If thats the case, Bradmans average is only a quirk awell. Its a pity that every aritclr about India written by a foreigner cant help but poke a dig or two at a team that has done so much for cricket. We can expect that from fans, and unfortunately now from the australian media aswel

  • cricmatters on January 25, 2012, 11:38 GMT

    It is time for wholesale changes. Selectors are equally to blame for this fiasco. Dravid and Laxman.. please retire before your fans lose all respect for you. Give the younsters a chance even is they fail, they will learn from the experience. Drop Sehwag and Dhoni as they are not fit to play Test cricket. Their problem is as much in the mind and the attitude as much as shorters versions offering more rewards. Ishant Sharma does not deserve a place in any test team as he always bowls a fraction short and never learns from his experience. Indian would have been better off playing two spinners on adelaide pitch.

  • Mitcher on January 25, 2012, 11:33 GMT

    @ karthik_raja: No, I certainly don't have that thought. Are you seriously suggesting that when Australia, or any other leading team get beaten (or routed like India) there is no criticism? Baffling comment. Seems indicative of a serious persecution complex amongst many in the Indian cricket community. On the one hand bragging about being the new superpower in charge of the game. Yet in the same breath moaning how everything is against them - pitches, commentators, match referees, umpires (take your pick). You can't have it both ways.

  • Deepak_Toronto on January 25, 2012, 11:15 GMT

    In last ten years,this is the first time I read a well written article about indian team and i was surprised to see that it was written by non-indian writer, PUJARA ,ROHIT SHARMA AND RAHANE SHOULD BE PERMANENT MEMBER OF THE TEAM. We should include OJHA and RAHUL SHARMA to bring in some variety in our bowling. ROBBIN UTTHAPA should be trained as wicket keeper. IRFAN should be in the team as an all rounder. FIRE DUNCAN FLETHCER, DHONI AND SRIKANT. RAJEEV SHUKLA,SHAHSTRI AND GAVASKAR SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO INTERFERE IN TEAM INDIA'S DECISION MAKINGS.

  • on January 25, 2012, 11:10 GMT

    Its so simple..Blame the captain and show the door to Coach!!!!!!!

  • sam4cricket on January 25, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    Well written Mr. Brettig. In India we tend to hold on to the past and keep looking at the history and past precedents. Yes the time has come for many of the current team to bid adieu rather than hang on for that one extra test match to score runs which will help them stay for few more. Surprisingly in most of the comments here, no one mentions Sachin as the man who should also evaluate his usefulness to the team. Sure he looks fluent for brief periods but the manner of dismissals tell a story that mental strength is not quite there. Of course all of us commenting have not even come close to playing cricket at a competitive level where the toughness can be measured and give us the right to comment but hey, we are the experts when it comes to commenting because we see on tv what players are probably missing.. being so close to action.

  • karthik_raja on January 25, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    I completely agree with this article.. Only question which irks me is.. Y no such article is written on Aus/Eng whn they lose badly in Ind.?? There r articles of 2 types.. 1. Hailing the winning team 2. Criticizing the losing team.. When any Subcontinent team wins, we will see articles ONLY of first type.. Bt whn they lose, 2nd type articles also come into scene.. Any1 else hav same kinda thought..??

  • on January 25, 2012, 10:55 GMT

    Well written article. But the sad part is in a country everthing is about personal milestone and records added with wieght of stardom , nothing much will be done from selectors and others. So no Dravid , Sachin or Laxman will be dropped and team will continue in the fate for some more time. A good example , in England major reason for failure for batting , India selector immediately dropped most of their bowlers.

  • on January 25, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    india should still play for win ,there is not so diffrence in 3-0 or 4-0 loss but there is great difference between 3-0 and 3-1 loss

  • on January 25, 2012, 10:48 GMT

    The tragedy here is not just the thrashing India is getting, but this is a country of more than a billion people, which is hardly at world level in any Olympic sport, and yet the one sport - cricket - which it invests so much of its hope in as a sporting country, its performance is pathetic, disgraceful.

  • CricIndia208 on January 25, 2012, 10:40 GMT

    Yawn. Who cares for these worhtless test series. World Cup in the pinnacle of cricket and INDIA ARE THE WORLD CHAMPIONS.

  • on January 25, 2012, 10:38 GMT

    "While Tendulkar has made runs and looked fluent, he has found himself distracted by the pursuit of a milestone that is more a statistical quirk than a solid achievement."

    Are you joking, Mr Brettig? The chance to become the first and almost certainly only man to achieve 100 centuries in international cricket and you brush it off as a statistical quirk? Geez.... what next, you dismissing Laker's 19 wickets as a mere numerical flibbertigibert?

  • on January 25, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    Interesting comment. This Indian team it seems has approached the tour, or so it seems llike Australian teams used to approach the sub-continent before steve Waugh"s side. They used to complain about the hotels, the pitches, the umpires, the poverty just about anything. Steve Waugh asked his team to accept and embrace India and people like hayden did it brilliantly. They conquered the final frontier too. I think India was probably better prepared for this tour than for England. Zahir has lasted the whole tour, for I dont see australia batting again. The batsmen and the leadership has been found wanting and Fletcher is a complete waste of time. I think his reputation precedes him. Even greg Chappel however berated got people like Raina in to the team . India must forget this , hopefully learn from this tour and move on and the bane of Indian cricket has been and will always be the preference of individual records over the team"s success. sridhar

  • JustIPL on January 25, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    It is not the captain, coach or the selectors, It is the talent that you need the bench strength that is highly capable. and with umesh show in this match it is clear that despite being able to make first use of the pitch he returned awful figures.

  • true_point on January 25, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    Agreed. the new brand of Indian cricketers have quick triggers, large greed and inflated egos (arrogance) and an air of invincibility. But looks like this team is tuned off of this tour. They are not enjoying their cricket. when Yadav was bowling short on this batter freindly pitch, no body came up to tell him to pitch full. somebody should tell Shewag that his irresponsibility is another cause. As long as have dead home pitches which favour batsmen, Indian cricket will only be like this. what is sad is that there is no fighting spirit. they seem to be resigned. "sub chalta hai". people will forget this when they win the next series at home. may be that is the attitude. selection panel has to be tough. there has to be a plan for trasnition of the big Three and also a plan for the quicks. - zaheer, inshant, yadav and aaron can be the chosen first level and have replacements for each one of them.

  • Rahul_78 on January 25, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    I am very sorry to say this but I ll loose a lot of respect and regard I have for VVS and Rahul if they choose to continue after the humiliation of OZ series irrespective of what the end score line may read in this test or how many more runs they may score in remaining 3 innings between them. I am sure cricketers of this pedigree may not set foot in Indian dressing room for long time but selectors must be ruthless and should not hesitate to sack them in case they decide to continue in the lure of home test series against weaker apposition to bow out on high.

  • jabrankundi on January 25, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    Why aren't Clarke's and Ponting's names shown on that scoreboard? They scored Double ton's!

  • Busie1979 on January 25, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    Is the problem lack of hunger, lack of heart, lack of ability, or lack of belief?

  • indianpunter on January 25, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    A well written piece which gives a balanced perspective. The contributions of Dravid and Laxman to Indian cricket have been enormous and they have been greats in their own right. But by overstaying their welcome, they have lost the right to call time on their careers and now they will suffer the ignominy of being dropped. Whats it about Indian cricketers which make them linger on like a bad smell? Only gavaskar in the last 25 yr left at the top of his game ( no , not even ganguly, who was pushed to call the Australian tour his last, not kumble, who was tapped ). A clean break is what a jaded india deperately needs. The team is down, mentally and physically. Dravid, Laxman and Sehwag need to go. Dhoni to be axed as captain. Make Kohli the captain and build a team around him.

  • rahulcricket007 on January 25, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    INDIA HAS BOTH TALENTED BOWLERS & BATSMEN BUT BECAUSE THE SELCTOR IS SRIKANTH HE MAINLY SELECT PLAYER FROM SOUTH . GANGULY SHOULD BE MADE SELECTOR . WHEN HE WAS CAPTAIN HE MADE TEAM INDIA STRONG BY FINDING YOUNG TALENTS LIKE ZAHEER , IRFAN , BHAJJI , SEHWAG , YUVRAJ . INDIA HAS LOT OF TALENTED PLAYERS , BUT WE NEE A RIGHT PERSON TO SORT THIS TALENT IN BEST WAY .

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  • rahulcricket007 on January 25, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    INDIA HAS BOTH TALENTED BOWLERS & BATSMEN BUT BECAUSE THE SELCTOR IS SRIKANTH HE MAINLY SELECT PLAYER FROM SOUTH . GANGULY SHOULD BE MADE SELECTOR . WHEN HE WAS CAPTAIN HE MADE TEAM INDIA STRONG BY FINDING YOUNG TALENTS LIKE ZAHEER , IRFAN , BHAJJI , SEHWAG , YUVRAJ . INDIA HAS LOT OF TALENTED PLAYERS , BUT WE NEE A RIGHT PERSON TO SORT THIS TALENT IN BEST WAY .

  • indianpunter on January 25, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    A well written piece which gives a balanced perspective. The contributions of Dravid and Laxman to Indian cricket have been enormous and they have been greats in their own right. But by overstaying their welcome, they have lost the right to call time on their careers and now they will suffer the ignominy of being dropped. Whats it about Indian cricketers which make them linger on like a bad smell? Only gavaskar in the last 25 yr left at the top of his game ( no , not even ganguly, who was pushed to call the Australian tour his last, not kumble, who was tapped ). A clean break is what a jaded india deperately needs. The team is down, mentally and physically. Dravid, Laxman and Sehwag need to go. Dhoni to be axed as captain. Make Kohli the captain and build a team around him.

  • Busie1979 on January 25, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    Is the problem lack of hunger, lack of heart, lack of ability, or lack of belief?

  • jabrankundi on January 25, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    Why aren't Clarke's and Ponting's names shown on that scoreboard? They scored Double ton's!

  • Rahul_78 on January 25, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    I am very sorry to say this but I ll loose a lot of respect and regard I have for VVS and Rahul if they choose to continue after the humiliation of OZ series irrespective of what the end score line may read in this test or how many more runs they may score in remaining 3 innings between them. I am sure cricketers of this pedigree may not set foot in Indian dressing room for long time but selectors must be ruthless and should not hesitate to sack them in case they decide to continue in the lure of home test series against weaker apposition to bow out on high.

  • true_point on January 25, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    Agreed. the new brand of Indian cricketers have quick triggers, large greed and inflated egos (arrogance) and an air of invincibility. But looks like this team is tuned off of this tour. They are not enjoying their cricket. when Yadav was bowling short on this batter freindly pitch, no body came up to tell him to pitch full. somebody should tell Shewag that his irresponsibility is another cause. As long as have dead home pitches which favour batsmen, Indian cricket will only be like this. what is sad is that there is no fighting spirit. they seem to be resigned. "sub chalta hai". people will forget this when they win the next series at home. may be that is the attitude. selection panel has to be tough. there has to be a plan for trasnition of the big Three and also a plan for the quicks. - zaheer, inshant, yadav and aaron can be the chosen first level and have replacements for each one of them.

  • JustIPL on January 25, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    It is not the captain, coach or the selectors, It is the talent that you need the bench strength that is highly capable. and with umesh show in this match it is clear that despite being able to make first use of the pitch he returned awful figures.

  • on January 25, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    Interesting comment. This Indian team it seems has approached the tour, or so it seems llike Australian teams used to approach the sub-continent before steve Waugh"s side. They used to complain about the hotels, the pitches, the umpires, the poverty just about anything. Steve Waugh asked his team to accept and embrace India and people like hayden did it brilliantly. They conquered the final frontier too. I think India was probably better prepared for this tour than for England. Zahir has lasted the whole tour, for I dont see australia batting again. The batsmen and the leadership has been found wanting and Fletcher is a complete waste of time. I think his reputation precedes him. Even greg Chappel however berated got people like Raina in to the team . India must forget this , hopefully learn from this tour and move on and the bane of Indian cricket has been and will always be the preference of individual records over the team"s success. sridhar

  • on January 25, 2012, 10:38 GMT

    "While Tendulkar has made runs and looked fluent, he has found himself distracted by the pursuit of a milestone that is more a statistical quirk than a solid achievement."

    Are you joking, Mr Brettig? The chance to become the first and almost certainly only man to achieve 100 centuries in international cricket and you brush it off as a statistical quirk? Geez.... what next, you dismissing Laker's 19 wickets as a mere numerical flibbertigibert?

  • CricIndia208 on January 25, 2012, 10:40 GMT

    Yawn. Who cares for these worhtless test series. World Cup in the pinnacle of cricket and INDIA ARE THE WORLD CHAMPIONS.