Twenty20 World Cup 2007 September 24, 2007

Dhoni and Malik triumph for cricket

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Cricket's greatest rivals played out a thrilling encounter, a feast fit for a king. The King of India has to be Mahendra Singh Dhoni whose energy and positivity filled his troops with confidence and a welcome nerve. Pakistan's captain did much the same for his men but the pressure of a World Cup final chase weighed heavily on Pakistan's batsmen.

Misbah-ul-Haq was magnificent but his fellow batsmen played without an ounce of his calm other than Imran Nazir, which is saying something. But Pakistan's batsmen have only themselves to blame for this defeat after the match had been handed to them on a golden platter by their inspired bowling attack.

None the less, Pakistan have gained much from this tournament. Foremost among the gains is the revival of Pakistan's bowling attack, a boon in any form of cricket. Umar Gul is the stand-out bowler of the tournament. A new player of obvious talent, Sohail Tanvir, has emerged to offer a dangerous swish of left-arm with ball or bat. An older player of latent talent, Misbah has broken through to stake a claim for Pakistan's middle order. And the leadership combination of Malik and Geoff Lawson has instilled a spirit that Pakistan fans had worried would be confined to their memories.

Pakistan can build from here, a tough year lies ahead. But there is no use in wallowing in the depression of a valiant defeat. Pakistan and India were the best teams in this tournament, a miraculous recovery after the Caribbean. This is a cause of celebration throughout South Asia. Today, India, the team that mastered its nerves better in the Bullring won a deserved victory. But Pakistan and India together scored a triumph for international cricket as a thrilling spectator sport. Congratulations Messrs Dhoni and Malik.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • Harreet on September 27, 2007, 11:43 GMT

    There's a few posts which state that Dhoni didn't mention any pakistan players in his end of match interview,

    I'm pretty sure he did mention about 4 bowlers; becuase he said their (can't rememeber who exactly he mentioned) bowling was really really....(pause)...really really excellent!

    lol i only remembered that becuase it made me laugh!

  • Qasim on September 27, 2007, 10:10 GMT

    Javed sb. thats a nasty shot (below the belt) and irrelevant whereas Amit seems to have shot himself in the foot by responding the way he did, you don't need to be a mathematician to figure that one out my friend. There is ofcouse no truth in either case.

    Yes Amit, and if the Pakistani players had given their 100% too, it would have still been a great contest.

  • Qasim on September 27, 2007, 9:38 GMT

    First of all, congratulations to the Indian cricket team for their success in the T20 Finals. As much as I would have liked to have seen Pakistan win, the way it all happened “almost” made the outcome irrelevant. At the end of the day I feel more sad for Misbah not being able to finish it off rather than Pakistan losing.

    He really needs all the credit he can get. We can all sit out here and comment on what he should or should not have done but the way he kept his composure throughout the innings was remarkable. He almost cleared Sreesanth. Even if he had gone straight, he could have holed out in the deep. Had it paid off, we would have been harping eloquent about his performance. I think we should still do it. We didn’t hold back with our criticism when he was selected and we should not be so stingy with our praise after his performance throughout the tournament.

    I felt the Man of the Match should have been Gautam Gambhir as he was the difference between the two sides. If you neglect the top scorers (Gambhir and Misbah), there is not much difference between the total runs scored by the other top six batsmen.

    If any positives have to be drawn out of this loss is that it keeps us focused on the changes that have to be made. A win would surely have swept them under the carpet.

    Kamran Akmal was dubbed as the next best thing after Gilchrist in 2005 but now he is woefully out of form and must be replaced.

    Imran Nazir and Muhammed Hafeez would definitely not find a place in the test side but maybe they can be persisted with in the ODIs or T20. Imran did show signs of (slight) improvement in the last two matches. His run out was a turning point in the match which was more due to a brilliant piece of fielding from Uthappa than Younis’ call. He showed presence of mind to throw at the batsman’s end.

    Its just the other way around for Younis Khan, tests only if anything. Muhammed Yousuf would have been much more useful. He is a superb player barring his fielding in any form of the game.

    Yasir Arafat and Salman Butt would probably have played their last match for a while and should get back to domestic cricket. Same with Abdur Rehman, whose inclusion in this side was perhaps the most baffling especially with Fawad around.

    We saw a brief glimpse of Fawad Alam which didn’t tell much except that he is eager. Look forward to seeing more of him.

    Rao would remain on the sidelines. Once touted as a parchi player he actually is quite a decent bowler.

    This leaves Misbah, Tanvir, Afridi, Shoaib, Gul & Asif who in my opinion should continue in all forms of the game. It may still be a little premature to consider Misbah and Tanvir but they couldn’t have done more (perhaps made 7 more runs) on tour.

    If hopefully Yousuf returns, Yasir Hameed should be brought in as opener with Khurram Manzoor or Khalid Latif (have read so much about them on this blog, has anyone seen them play???). Same goes for the wicketkeeper (Sarfraz).

    So my test eleven for the first test would be,

    Khalid Latif, Yasir Hameed, Shoaib Malik, Muhammed Yousuf, Misbah ul Haq, Shahid Afridi, Sarfraz, Sohail Tanvir, Umar Gul, Muhammed Asif, Danesh Kaneria

    A word about Shoaib’s captaincy, he did very well and IMO his field placings were well thought out and for once there was a plan. The only blemishes were his ignorance of the bowl out rule and ofcourse his statement during the presentation ceremony (surprisingly Afridi spoke more sensibly than anyone from either side). He took everyone by surprise and it definitely was due to his weak communication skills than anything else.

    Finally, going through this blog, barring a very few, I was really pleased to see the comments from either side devoid of animosity and appreciative of each other.

    Gosh, how did this post get so long???

  • rext on September 27, 2007, 8:51 GMT

    It's children's cricket, no more no less! Get over it Pakistan, again you lost and all you can do is query someone's comments. Nice try at diverting attention from the fact that you couldn't even win the most ridiculous sporting "World Cup" ever held! The reason successful teams like Australia dismiss it as money grasping trivial nonsense is because that's what it is! A circus sideshow that genuine cricket afficianados do nothing but laugh at, yet you bloggers write as if it actually meant something. Bring on something serious like actual cricket!

  • Badar Siddiqi on September 27, 2007, 8:19 GMT

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  • Muhammad Asif on September 27, 2007, 13:20 GMT

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  • Harreet on September 27, 2007, 11:43 GMT

    There's a few posts which state that Dhoni didn't mention any pakistan players in his end of match interview,

    I'm pretty sure he did mention about 4 bowlers; becuase he said their (can't rememeber who exactly he mentioned) bowling was really really....(pause)...really really excellent!

    lol i only remembered that becuase it made me laugh!

  • Qasim on September 27, 2007, 10:10 GMT

    Javed sb. thats a nasty shot (below the belt) and irrelevant whereas Amit seems to have shot himself in the foot by responding the way he did, you don't need to be a mathematician to figure that one out my friend. There is ofcouse no truth in either case.

    Yes Amit, and if the Pakistani players had given their 100% too, it would have still been a great contest.

  • Qasim on September 27, 2007, 9:38 GMT

    First of all, congratulations to the Indian cricket team for their success in the T20 Finals. As much as I would have liked to have seen Pakistan win, the way it all happened “almost” made the outcome irrelevant. At the end of the day I feel more sad for Misbah not being able to finish it off rather than Pakistan losing.

    He really needs all the credit he can get. We can all sit out here and comment on what he should or should not have done but the way he kept his composure throughout the innings was remarkable. He almost cleared Sreesanth. Even if he had gone straight, he could have holed out in the deep. Had it paid off, we would have been harping eloquent about his performance. I think we should still do it. We didn’t hold back with our criticism when he was selected and we should not be so stingy with our praise after his performance throughout the tournament.

    I felt the Man of the Match should have been Gautam Gambhir as he was the difference between the two sides. If you neglect the top scorers (Gambhir and Misbah), there is not much difference between the total runs scored by the other top six batsmen.

    If any positives have to be drawn out of this loss is that it keeps us focused on the changes that have to be made. A win would surely have swept them under the carpet.

    Kamran Akmal was dubbed as the next best thing after Gilchrist in 2005 but now he is woefully out of form and must be replaced.

    Imran Nazir and Muhammed Hafeez would definitely not find a place in the test side but maybe they can be persisted with in the ODIs or T20. Imran did show signs of (slight) improvement in the last two matches. His run out was a turning point in the match which was more due to a brilliant piece of fielding from Uthappa than Younis’ call. He showed presence of mind to throw at the batsman’s end.

    Its just the other way around for Younis Khan, tests only if anything. Muhammed Yousuf would have been much more useful. He is a superb player barring his fielding in any form of the game.

    Yasir Arafat and Salman Butt would probably have played their last match for a while and should get back to domestic cricket. Same with Abdur Rehman, whose inclusion in this side was perhaps the most baffling especially with Fawad around.

    We saw a brief glimpse of Fawad Alam which didn’t tell much except that he is eager. Look forward to seeing more of him.

    Rao would remain on the sidelines. Once touted as a parchi player he actually is quite a decent bowler.

    This leaves Misbah, Tanvir, Afridi, Shoaib, Gul & Asif who in my opinion should continue in all forms of the game. It may still be a little premature to consider Misbah and Tanvir but they couldn’t have done more (perhaps made 7 more runs) on tour.

    If hopefully Yousuf returns, Yasir Hameed should be brought in as opener with Khurram Manzoor or Khalid Latif (have read so much about them on this blog, has anyone seen them play???). Same goes for the wicketkeeper (Sarfraz).

    So my test eleven for the first test would be,

    Khalid Latif, Yasir Hameed, Shoaib Malik, Muhammed Yousuf, Misbah ul Haq, Shahid Afridi, Sarfraz, Sohail Tanvir, Umar Gul, Muhammed Asif, Danesh Kaneria

    A word about Shoaib’s captaincy, he did very well and IMO his field placings were well thought out and for once there was a plan. The only blemishes were his ignorance of the bowl out rule and ofcourse his statement during the presentation ceremony (surprisingly Afridi spoke more sensibly than anyone from either side). He took everyone by surprise and it definitely was due to his weak communication skills than anything else.

    Finally, going through this blog, barring a very few, I was really pleased to see the comments from either side devoid of animosity and appreciative of each other.

    Gosh, how did this post get so long???

  • rext on September 27, 2007, 8:51 GMT

    It's children's cricket, no more no less! Get over it Pakistan, again you lost and all you can do is query someone's comments. Nice try at diverting attention from the fact that you couldn't even win the most ridiculous sporting "World Cup" ever held! The reason successful teams like Australia dismiss it as money grasping trivial nonsense is because that's what it is! A circus sideshow that genuine cricket afficianados do nothing but laugh at, yet you bloggers write as if it actually meant something. Bring on something serious like actual cricket!

  • Badar Siddiqi on September 27, 2007, 8:19 GMT

    The last thing anyone would want to see is bringing in religion factor in sports. Unfortunately, Pakistan again got into headlines quite unnecessarily and yet again for radicalism. And this came from the captain of the national cricket team himself. If PCB had thought that getting rid of Inzimam-ul-Haq would clear the team of religious fanatics then they must think again; Pakistan team now have a new generation of those in players like Shoaib Malik. His post match chat was simply unprofessional and daft. He began by bringing in Islam from the get go. Doesn't he think that sports have no boundaries? Does he think that only muslims support the Pakistani team? He must have hurt a lot of people who aren't muslims but support Pakistan. Why didn't he mention those people? Not even all Pakistanis support their cricket team. If he didn't have the right words to say something then he would be better off keeping quiet especially on such a sensitive issue. Furthermore, he also didn't acknowledge the Indian cricket team for their victory in the final. That's just so unprofessional, period. He should have congratulated his opponents as customery in post game chats. He chose not to be generous and kind. He must understand that a game is just a game; even on-field hostilities must cease after the match. Regardless of the result, one must support cricket and the spirit of the game. All teams have their own fans but please don't segregate them on the religious basis. If people could suggest psychological classes for the other Shoaib then why not some communication classes for this Shoaib? Atleast he could seek help from Geoff Lawson on that. Being the captain, he must be extra sensitive and resposible. He didn't help his patron-in-chief's cause on projecting Pakistan as an ultra modern state. In the future, please be more cautious in using your words and learn how to be generous in sports.

  • rajiv on September 27, 2007, 7:04 GMT

    If you ask me, my man of the series was Misbah..Pak wouldnt have even got close but for him.Just as our(india) hearts broke when Miandad hit that last ball six 20 yrs ago(and made me a fan of miandad ever after),misbah's miscue broke pak hearts.

    As for poor Shoaib, there is no point in ascribing"secular" values to a simple religious boy whose english is not that great...lets give this a rest.Almost every Pakistani Muslim knows that India has more Muslims than Pakistan, and who are Indians first before anything else..and let us just celebrate the resurgence of subcontinental cricket.

    Pak and India are two faces across a mirror...lets not get carried away and simply celebrate a great game.

    For one, I would have never begrudged Pakistan a magnificent victory had they won, because by God(of all humanity!!) did they put up a lion hearted fight or what.Rest in Peace,Bob Woolmer.

    Long live India-Pakistan Cricket...can any ashes contest ever beat this???Dont think so.Only Indo Pak cricket could have taken T-20 to this dazzling level.

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on September 27, 2007, 6:52 GMT

    Ramadan & Cricket, and how it has affected Pakistan's performance in this twenty20 final which was played during the day time. I am not bringing up the Malik - Mukul saga here but, some other important facts which requires serious thinking and planning, if Pakistan has to progress and emerge like Champions.

    Cricket in Pakistan during the month of Ramadan, is not only famous but, this shorter version of the game twenty20 has thoroughly been enjoyed by the players and the spectators as well. It has remained extremely popular since the past several decades. If one delves deeper, you will find names like, Sikander Bakht, Mansoor Akhtar, Mohsin Khan, Saeed Anwar, Moin Khan, Rashid Latif from the past and a whole bunch of present day cricketers including Afridi, Malik, Misbah, Butt et al have played night cricket during the month of Ramadan.

    The only reason night cricket remained popular during the month of Ramadan is due to the fact that no one in Pakistan play during the day time due to fasting. And the PCB also used to avoid scheduling matches during this month. But, due to too much cricket being played in so many countries all over the world, the ICC imposes a schedule which the PCB had no choice but to accept it. This is very harsh and difficult for those players who are fasting especially test matches or full 50 overs game in hot and humid conditions during the day time.

    In the previous thread, I had suggested that those players who wish to fast should not play in a day match because they cannot give 100% and cannot do justice with their performance and their profession especially in crucial championship matches. Some of the dorks & dolts on this blog were laughing and ridiculing me. One of them is Port Qasim, Mohammad bin wala - the torch bearer of cricket's civilization - who reacted like an old trot by saying: "I guess people who do manual/physical labour can never fast in their life during Ramadan unless they take the month off." Further he added to his drivel by saying: "I am not one of those who believe that Pakistan will win it because of Ramadan but I also believe that they will not lose it because of fasting either." And he advised me "to think/research before I write such drivel and, it is DEFINITELY NOT my forte." Oh, yeah, ka-ka Qasim you are so right, just look at this:

    http://www.dawn.com/2007/09/27/spt2.htm "Afridi asks PCB not to consider him for SA Tests."

    The moment the team returned home the facts have started surfacing. Here is a bombshell from Afridi, he asked the PCB not to consider him for the test matches against SA during the month of Ramadan, read his interview in today's daily DAWN. "Sources, told Dawn that Afridi was NOT keen on playing during the month of Ramazan since he had experienced some physical disorder in the Twenty20 World Championship matches due to fasting."

    This is just Shahid Afridi who never spares a moment in blabbing out his mind, there must be others who must have muttered and grumbled morosely in one way or the other. Believing in the sanctity of fasting is one thing doing justice with your job is another. They did not give up fasting and played under pressure and could not perform to the best of their abilities. Younis Khan, Asif, Akmal from their faces were looking drained out. Especially Asif was looking haggard (not Hoggard).

    Reportedly Mohammad Yousuf is being pursued by the PCB Chairman to play test matches against SA. Will he be fasting and playing? The question is whether he would be playing or not? There is no doubt that he will not fast if he plays. So, will he perform? In the past we have seen Inzamam's performance and how is energy barometer used to go down, even during the normal days he used to conserve energy by walking instead of running. They say he used to take a nap in between i.e., when standing at the non-striker's end!

    Pakistan team is lucky to have gone that far in this twenty20 tournament and if they have won the cup they would have proudly announced, "hum roza rekh ker khailay aur isi vaja say jeetay." (we played while we were fasting and we have won because of fasting) and the nation would have very proudly echoed their sentiments. It is very difficult to convince the ignorant believer who believes like this. The fact is you cannot give your 100% if you are fasting. It is better to be fair and say I cannot give my best or perform 100% if I am fasting. But then they are confronted between "Roza & Rozy" (fasting and job) which becomes very difficult to choose between Emaan and Duniya dari (Faith and worldly affairs). So, they have to have their cake and eat it too ........... of course, after the fast !!!

    It is very easy for some people to sit in their comfy rooms behind their computer screens or in front of their TV sets and ridicule others and say, fasting doesn't matter after all there are people who are doing hard manual labour jobs and they are also fasting and blady blah. Tongue wagging is the simplest and easiest of all the jobs, and what Qasim blabbed is called "the excellence of muddy and incomprehensible form of speech". He should first go out in the heat, run 100 meters while he is fasting and then come back and talk i.e., if he has any energy left for tongue wagging and BS-ing. The example of manual/physical hard labour is absurd, its very different from performing par excellence and giving your 100% in a championship match. If you fail they don't say you are the second best or you just lost by 5 runs, they say you are a loser! Its a bitter pill and you still have to swallow - but remember taking it after the fast.

  • Elle in sunny South Africa! on September 27, 2007, 6:52 GMT

    Thanks Osman Ali Khairi ! Sometimes I like to reply to a specific comment...And I read try to read all the comments so as to not repeat something someone else has already stated. But I never get myself involved in a war or words. Waste of energy. And we all know what wasting energy does to our climate... ;-)

    By the way...Who is Shahrukh? Does he bowl or bat? Why all the Indian hype about him? Is he any good? He looks a little old though. Leathery.

  • vjohnson on September 27, 2007, 5:05 GMT

    @Javed A. Khan from canada ;)

    Mr. Javed, you wrote: It was indeed a pleasing sight to see the monkey getting mauled by Imran Nazir.

    Do you think that all the pakistani players are good lookign handsome studs. They also look like monkeys. Some look like Osama's cousins. If you want to insult based on looks then same insults are applicable to you too.

    All the pakistani players were not able to score runs and win the cup. Thats the fact. So India were the deserving winners.

    Misbah hitting sixes. This was not luck. He is pure gold class. He is another Javed Miandad in the making. Umar Gul was also very good.

    Javed Saab, if we see luck was also with pakistani players: 1) Sohail Tanvir hitting sixes was just plain luck similar to our Joginders ball taking Misbah wicket.

    2) Asif hitting the four of RP Singh was alos sheer good luck.

    If the above 2 incidents had not taken place then Pakistan would have lost the match by more that 15 runs for sure.

    Luck was India. But Pakistan played well.

    Regarding Shahrukh Khan. He is a Indian so his loyalty will be with India. I understand your pain seeing a fellow muslim like Pathan brothers and Shahrukh Khan supporting India.

    God Bless all. Peace be unto all

    I am a proud Indian

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on September 27, 2007, 0:57 GMT

    LOL@ Elle's retort on gitika's admiration for Dhoni and lust for "a body language that is so full of charisma." Elle, I agree with you that someone should have told him to put on his shirt to save the viewers from that sordid, indecent exposure.

    I am sure a few of the Indian supporters would be offended by your objection and my concurrence avec vous. One can come up with an argument that we do watch boxing, wrestling and swimming competitions where they have no shirts. The point is you take it for granted in that kinda sports. Whether one agrees with the expression or not 'cricket is gentleman's game.' but one thing is for sure in cricket you don't expect players taking off their shirts on cricket grounds. Ganguly aped Flintoff and now Dhoni was trying to be more cool! Stalkers are chased on cricket and soccer grounds by the security, I wonder how Dhoni got away with that?

    Talking of your pun on Thierry Daniel Henry reminds me of a similar desire made by a teenage ball boy, it was either at Wimbledon or World Tennis championship I don't remember exactly but, one of the female players took off her shirt during the break. The boy who was so near to that player when asked by a TV personnel about his reaction, the boy replied: "I wish it was Gaby (Gabriella Sabatini)." So, everyone has their preferences and gitika's choice is Indian beef.

    Regarding the suggestion about posts to be numbered, a few of us have asked Mr. Abbassi about this in the past, but it seems there is no provision in the system to give a serial number. The only way I try to refer back to a post is by remembering the date and time, that way its easier to scroll to the right post.

    In response to Graeme Smith's whining about boredom and lackadaisical attitude prior to the start of the series which IMO is no more than a preemptive statement to save the team from embarrassment i.e., in case of a defeat. "I told you that our boys were bored due to excess security." Moi aussi, I wrote something on the Telegraph blog which is yet to appear for readers. Later I saw your comments which are almost the same as mine. It is good to see healthy criticism from a South African which is impartial and realistic. Bravo! Lets hope its gonna be a good series.

  • Suresh on September 26, 2007, 22:59 GMT

    I think that there were many heroes in the Finals, in both teams. But, Misbah ul Haq could have been a Super Hero. He went so close to it. Not sure if he could not hold his nerves or if he was a bit unfortunate. It happened to him twice on India. So, it must be the 'Nerves'. Whatever it may be, he is still a great Character.Very Impressive.

  • Deepak Naidu on September 26, 2007, 22:31 GMT

    HA HA HA !!!

    well said Amit & Roshan !!! now, Mr Javed A Khan, dont take this to your heart and take it easy... accept the facts brother and be graceful in defeat. i can only say that most of the SRK fans are not cricket buffs. or you would be caught with your pants down in your own den !

  • Anam Ahmed on September 26, 2007, 22:14 GMT

    Hey Amit just to let u know that the term Paki is used as a slang...avoid using that

  • Sitarah Anjum (London) on September 26, 2007, 22:05 GMT

    Why on earth some Indian supporters are making hell lot of noise over Shoaib Malik’s post match ceremony! I watched that and when he mentioned the word Muslims I felt it was just a slip of tongue as he does not have good command in English. So what’s the fuss about it and how did it create a storm for some people who are bragging about Equality of rights for Muslims in India or elsewhere! Why are they provoking Pakistani supporters and dragging non-Muslim players into this drama to justify their rotten, so –called analysis?

    After such a scintillating end of tournament, it looks like there is another tournament being played in Pakspin where some people are harsh on Malik. Why pick on someone who is not a good conversationalist in foreign language? If it really makes some people satisfied then go and question the bloody politicians who are responsible for all the problems on earth!

    It would be better if Indian supporters stop exaggerating. What would have happened if India lost! I’m sure we won’t have seen these many posts from their side. This is apparent that they can’t digest this unexpected win and having trouble to swallow the victory. Let me tell you the fact… India won bcos Pakistani batsmen were idiot to lose their mind and give away too many wickets for no reason. Indian team’s is not better than Pakistani team. If we have a weak batting line up then they have a weaker bowling side too.

    It was India who was at the brink of defeat before the silly shot of Misbah. What would have happened if Srisanth dropped the catch or Sharma delivered a No ball? I’m sure all these so-called liberal minded Indians would have been slaughtering their newly appointed captain and Co. We at least have not slammed our great players for losing against India. Coincidental wins like Twenty does not make them a great team. Refer to the over all record that speaks for itself and you will know who is who. As far as Muslims are concerned, there are so many in India who support Pakistan and fanatics in India do not like it.

    I never take part in heated debates like this but I obviously did not like some people spoiling the atmosphere of this great blog. We read comments from everybody but ever since India reached Semi-Final and Final, all of a sudden Indians started writing in PakSpin! Why…If you hate Pakistan and its people that much then do not write in this blogg that is called Pakspin not IndiSpin, so get a life and stop being childish! Grow up and broaden your horizons. Do not show us Pakistani supporters mirror rather look at your own faces, may be you feel the need to remove some spots! By the way what seems to be the problem if people mention about their location with their names. Are Indians ashamed to write their country’s name? We live abroad that doesn’t mean we no longer feel proud of our country. No matter how bad our nation does but when someone points a finger at us we take it hard on them!! This is the reason why nobody can dare to touch us any more.I do not want to vent out my anger at those Indian supporters who have common sense but some ‘black sheep’ has really ruined the celebration of Twenty20. What a shame!!!!

    PS: If you throw stones at others then be prepared to be stoned yourself, otherwise learn to respect others and be moderate in your opinions. Kindly put an end to this non-sense debate and let’s talk about fair game only.

  • Awas on September 26, 2007, 22:04 GMT

    WASIM SAQIB

    Good observation on Jogi and Y Khan. I guess rather than any mysteriousness involved in Younus running his partner out, he basically can be a right nutter sometimes both on and off the field. If you know what I mean! Other than his one good innings and generally good fielding overall, he did nothing good as a senior player. Run out was definitely the turning point. In such a good nick that Imran Nazir was, if he had stayed for a couple more overs, it could have been a different match.

    Elle in sunny South Africa

    I asked the same question as you asked about numbering the postings, for reference, when I first joined here some months ago. I got no response so I guess it can’t be done.

    Estelle you made one elle of a comment. I liked what you, Jerry, Marcus and a very few Indians said in Mukul's blog. It was the first (and now will be the only) time I read his thread just to see what stir he had caused. Never again! We welcome comments from fair minded people like you. You would like the regulars and soon know who they are; some controversial some agreeable but readable nevertheless. We say Pak Spin is the best; it spins better than others.

    Osman Ali Khairi

    Every notable cricket correspondent mentioned how well both teams played in such a wonderful final but, on Malik’s entry, for Mukul to say “As he collected his loser’s medal” is a shame to journalism and then to make it a religious issue is despicable. Isn’t that fitnagiri?

    By the way very useful tip: cntrl f.

    sandy, Nihit, Roshan, Hareet,

    You have conveniently chosen to ignore very reasonable explanations provided by:

    JAVED A. KHAN MONTREAL CANADA Osman Ali Khairi WASIM SAQIB Anam Ahmed Ashaq (by the way long time? Welcome back!)

    Kindly leave your predujices behind on your own Mukul's blog. Let me say it once more “the fact of the matter was that Shoaib, before the final, was receiving messages of goodwill from all over the world from his well wishers but he couldn’t express it properly”.

    khansahab(A.A.Khan)

    You know my views about religiosity and lifestyle matters i.e. these should be left outside of the cricket field. But unfortunately in this case, as you may well notice by reading some comments, basically Mukul’s verbal diarrhoea has hit the fan.

  • Nadeem on September 26, 2007, 22:03 GMT

    I totally agreeing with Raja Pakistani above. It is true some PUNJABI does not like people from Karachi. There are many PUNJABIES lives in karachi but they always sing the song of PUNJAB. They do not like weather of karachi, they do support player from Karachi, they do not like politicians from karachi, they do not like karachi etc what a hell they are doing in Karachi?

    Karachi is a winner of current Quiad-e-Azam trophy but no player from that team is representing Pakistan team any more.

    India has more URDU speaking muslims in the team than Pakistan cricket team.

    Wake up Guys, Wake up

    Nadeem Laloo Kheit Karachi

  • Junaid on September 26, 2007, 22:00 GMT

    To be honest Pakistanis and Indians loves to hate each other. I mean after such a successful worldcup for both the teams is there any need for such negative comments. India won the final because they played better on the day and Shoaib was trying to thanks all the Muslims who were praying for Pakistan team in Ramzan. If we can accept these simple facts without considering others as Evil than life can be better.

  • Suhaib Jalis Ahmed on September 26, 2007, 20:00 GMT

    Mr. Nirbhay Singh.. I just read your blog. I salute u sir... it is people like you that make reading these posts worthwhile. It is amazing how well you understand the sentiments of Pakistanis. Your anlysis on the game is insightful and your unbiased comments are spot on regarding Shoaib Malik, Mukul Kesavan and others. I hope Cricinfo gives you your very own blog soon :D

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on September 26, 2007, 19:59 GMT

    The reason Pak Spin is more popular than any other cricket blog is obvious from its readership. The popularity of this blog is because of Mr. Kamran Abbassi liberalism, his leniency and his level of tolerance that he allows even the abusive comments on his blog. The response to almost all his threads hits three figures which is a rarity on other blogs of cricinfo.

    He allows the readers to freely express their thoughts, sentiments and feelings and I won't be surprised if this thread hits a four figure number, like a few did in the past. And one can clearly see that in a situation like this when it is something that is against Pakistan or Pakistani players our so-called Indian friends spill a lot of venom, and it is a fact that they never waste a single opportunity in adding fuel to the fire. Had Pakistan won the match there would have been a few regulars congratulating them. Or, in case of a controversy (like this Malik's case, which is blown out of proportion) they would have still bombarded this place with their paranoia and Islamophobia. I have witnessed on-ground verbal assaults from Indian supporters in Sharjah when they lost on several occasions and blamed umpiring. Anyways what they do is nothing new.

    khansahab I wouldn't have bothered to respond to your views about Shoaib Malik as you are entitled to write whatever you feel and I ignored those comments made by you in your third post on this thread. Your first two posts were about the game. But, the third one, as Awas pointed out, you went with the flow avec Mukul ...... it took some time for you to think before you joined Mukul's bandwagon by saying: "whether he (Malik) meant what he said or not, it sounded ridiculously bigoted" this is not only a tad harsh on Malik but, it is sounding more ridiculous than what you think he did or said.

    Still I ignored your comments, because you have the right to say what you feel because thats the way you see him. But, not me. In my eyes he may be a paindoo who cannot speak good English or I may criticize his decisions related to cricket. But one thing is for sure, Malik is not a bigot and I don't judge him on the basis of that comment. And Malik's using the word "Muslim" in a grammatically wrong sentence does not implicate that he said anything insulting, blasphemous or degrading any creed, culture or caste and for that you are calling him a bigot? I think the person who is spreading this fitna is a superstitious hypocrite and a bigot.

    Please don't display your ignorance by assuming that you are a very broadminded person by endorsing his view that he is correct because you don't approve of Mullahism in cricket, (I am with you on that) or you feel good when a few of them pat your back and say: "well said khansahab, or they quote you as a shining example to validate their point and ask me or others to read your (secular) views." That is exactly what they want to hear from a few of the Pakistani supporters. This is their sinister approach and there is something more than what meets the eye.

    I am responding to your post now because, in your 4th post you have directly addressed me and tried to explain it to me that you have been a victim of whatever, whatever phobia and because of that you reacted harshly. Oh please, you are not the only victim, I would say since nine eleven, ALL Muslims are and, I don't want to discuss that global issue. I would like to stick to this one only.

    So, you, sitting in front of a computer, in your house, and after writing three lengthy posts you claim that "you were hot headed" in your post in response to Malik's comment. Now, you realize that you were a little hot-headed but you cannot retract your entire comments because you've put them in black and white or should I say in green and black! Please read Dr. Edward De Bono's "Intelligence Trap," and you will know what I mean. IMO, it wasn't a spur of the moment reaction from you, you had enough time to think about it, still you chose to write something very insensible and undesirable against him. Compared to you, Malik had no time to think before he blabbed those words. Think about that before you accuse him and throw him to the gallows.

    Even the Oxford educated Imran Khan the great, in his famous speech after winning the 1992 WC forgot to give credit to his team and said, "I won the World Cup for Pakistan." And Dhoni, the so-called pot-headed cool captain ignored to acknowledge the efforts of Pakistan, did not even mention a single word about how Pakistan played. But, people want to rip apart Malik for thanking the Muslims. He did not say the Muslims who fasted or the Muslims who prayed for his team's win. If Mukul can derive only one meaning out of his sentence it shows how narrow-minded, bias and bigoted he is, and he can think of only that and not the actual meaning or the spirit in which Malik wanted to express it. The irony is not only Mukul but, most Indians believe and say that they are very secular. I would like to put the word "pseudo" before their so-called "Secular Democracy."

    Amit, my parents and grandparents were not Indians and I come from a place which remained independent throughout the British Raj and prior to that it was never a part of the greater India and it is called "Elaqa Ghair" do you know what I am talking about? And George Bernard Shaw did not say anything about Indians, he said this about Americans when he went there. I've only used his analogy and if that hurts you on the wrong spot, like I said, I will take back my words in the same spirit as Shaw did by saying: OK, half of the Indians are not fools. Are you happy? Now, you can swallow your spit for Shahrukh Khan, he is a Muslim only for name sake and he can call himself Shanty Khan or Shahrukhnivasan Chattopadhya or whatever, who cares!

    And my dear Roshan dan, the reason I add city or country name after my name is only to highlight Malik's point that Pakistan's supporters are not just in Pakistan but ALL over the world. And btw you must be Einstein's grandson to figure out that I am a Muslim. No wonder you are so bright - Roshan.

  • Hanif on September 26, 2007, 19:44 GMT

    Oh, why oh why do they keep sending Kamran Akmal at the top? He is a nervous reck and lacks confidence at all levels. Did you see him all padded up in the dugout? He looked like a turkey waiting for christmas.

    The Pakistan team need to sort out his confidence urgently if they are going to stick with him. Confidence is the only thing he is lacking and his biggest downfall.

    I believe sending Akmal at no.3 was the biggest tactical error in the final. He just gave his wicket away and put Pakistan under further pressure.

  • Suhaib Jalis Ahmed on September 26, 2007, 19:23 GMT

    After this final, I was expecting a lot of mutual respect from both sides. However I really dont know if I have read a Pakspin blog with more mutual hatred. some of the posts are very disappointing.

    The negative comments coming from both sides are totally uncalled for. The final was moment for both sides to rejoice.

    The Indians should not take Shoaib Malik's comments to heart. I believe that all people are, in their individual capacity, representatives of their religion. I do not think he intended to claim that the whole Pakistani team is the sole representative of Islam. For all I know, it could have been a mere slip of the tongue. So let's show some compassion and give him the benefit of the doubt. There is no need to say discouraging stuff about Pakistan.

    We, the Pakistanis, on the other hand, should have the class to congratulate the Indians on their victory. I believe Gambhir was very impressive. RP Singh and Irfan Pathan were also great. The Indians have fought well under pressure. Some of the comments here about indians, particulary Indian Muslims, really do make us look like sore losers.

    The Indian innings was Gambhir's one-man show, quite like Misbah's inning fo Pakistan. The bowling from both sides was a terrific display of teamwork.

    We lost because our batting failed. PArticulary, Younis and Afridi disappointed immensely. Misbah made a very valiant effort when there was virtually no chance of a comeback. Hence I just cannot blame him for yesterday's defeat.

    I really dont see my efforts for peace bearing fruit anytime soon. But at least I didnt participate in this mindless exchange of derogatory remarks.

    Come on guys, Cricket Won... The Sub-continent Won !!! Aint that cool?

  • Adam Seedat on September 26, 2007, 18:57 GMT

    The Pakistani bowlers and Misbah made it a good,close final. If you take that away it was one-sided. The Pakistani batsmen (with the exception of Misbah) lacked mental strength..something the Aussies are good at. They have always lacked that in the past(except when Imran was around) and probably ten games down the line in the future, it will show itself again. They lack big match temparament and need to address the problem.

  • Muhammad Asif on September 26, 2007, 18:15 GMT

    Why you are discarding my comments? Oh! Pardon, I forget that you are the owner of this blog.

  • khansahab(A.A.Khan) on September 26, 2007, 17:26 GMT

    For people who think playing Fawad Alam regularly in this Cup would have been a risky move, Cricinfo recently wrote about the best Twenty20 players in the world. The article judged bowlers by "runs conceded squared divided by the product of wickets and balls bowled (qualification: 200 balls bowled)" which is a fair assessment. How strange that Fawad Alam is no 4 on the list? Now people might moan about rubbish like this being domestic performance and that Alam is too young etc. When Salman Butt is only one year older than Alam and has played so much international cricket that he has been made vice captain by the team management (and the justification for him still being in the squad is that he has a solid domestic record) why does being only one year younger and having an excellent domestic record go against Fawad? Fawad is also no 6 in the list of best Twenty20 all-rounders in the world. On both lists I don’t somehow see the names of Yasir Arafat, Abdur Rehman and Mohammad Hafeez.

    Malik probably is not aware of the content of that Cricinfo article and people who support his decision to exclude Fawad are also probably not aware of it too. Just like Malik, his supporters also have an absence of relevant and useful information. Malik does not understand cricket very well and his supporters on this blog don’t too. Malik was not aware of the bowl-out rule following the tie, he is not aware that many Muslims in the world will not be praying for Pakistan to win etc. Hence for all those people who think that Fawad will be considered a hero by a segment of the bloggers only because of his linage, my message to these people is that there is still much you need to “know” about this world before you can start making brainless comments like how you do :-)

    Ashaq, I think you should refrain from debating that India is not democratic and pluralistic because it is a debate you won’t win. You have an example in the form of “Denesh Kaneria” who has become “Danish” Kaneria. There was never any talk of Yousuf Youhana being made captain until his conversion to Mohammad Yousuf. The richest man in India is a Muslim and Muslims constitute a healthy proportion of India’s “Rich List”. I have seen programmes in Pakistan recently where Hindus and Christians have openly stated that it is difficult for them to live in Pakistan (especially Punjab). There are many controversies surrounding the creation of Pakistan but on paper we accept that Pakistan was made for “Muslims” of the “Indian Subcontinent” and it was meant to be an Islamic country. I am not saying there is anything wrong with that but India from the first day has called herself a secular nation, which is appropriate since 20% of people in the country are non Hindus. I used to believe that for Muslims to prosper in India they have to abandon their religion but I have met Indian Muslims who are very religious and are in top posts in India, the type of posts you would expect members of the dominating provincial majority in Pakistan to hold. I mentioned Irfan Pathan who is from a family of mosque-managers and one time he was touted as India’s next captain because he used to be a very consistent player. My experiences and research has so far showed that there is more discrimination against minority linguistic groups in Pakistan than there is religious discrimination in India. I have said before that I am not biased against anyone- what I am stating here are facts. Pakistan is a funny country where asking about the candidate’s lineage in detail is a regular occurrence in a job interview.

    As far as name changing and inclusiveness is concerned, lots of Pakistani Muslims in UK and USA have changed their names to be benefit from inclusion in society. “Mohammads” have become “Mo’s” or “Moe’s” for example. We regularly experience racism and Islamophobia in liberal societies like UK and USA so you have to expect some racism by Hindus towards Muslims and Christians because Hindus are also human beings like Christians and Atheists in the UK etc and also because India is not as advanced or modern as UK, USA etc.

    When we discuss the positives and negatives about India and Pakistan we should analyse the situation with a broad-minded approach and look at the other side of the argument to come to a fairer conclusion. When I do that certain people start thinking I am doing it because I may “possibly” have “Indian roots”.

  • Another Amit on September 26, 2007, 16:46 GMT

    Cognitive dissonance. While most Indians seem to think Malik is a religious zealot, the Pakistanis think it was just a mistake. Allow me my armchair psychoanlysis: it is neither. Pakistan is an Islamic republic and it is easy for folks in Pakistan to confuse Islam with Pakistan. Malik is a cricketer, not oxford educated constipated Atherton-esque. This can be easily solved if Pakistan board had a media manager who could have told Malik what to say (more importantly, what not to say). Mover over folks, there is nothing to see here.

  • Ashaq on September 26, 2007, 16:17 GMT

    Also only thing Malik said was I would like to "thank Muslims around the World."

    1) Malik never said, Indias Muslims should not support India.

    2) Malik never attackerd Irfan Pathan or Shah Rukh Khan.

    3) Malik never said this Match was Hindus verses Muslims.

    So the Only Person To say all of the above things was Kesavan. from a marketing point of view it was a Masterstroke. his blog has been quoted in a number of Media. the kesavan has maximised his own profile. which prior to his diatribe was non-existent therefore he has increased his earning potential.....So the kesavan has been very opportunist in his Kesavanism.

    Like most journalist paying no regard for the consequences of what he writes or hatred he stirs up.

  • Imtiaz on September 26, 2007, 16:07 GMT

    I am a muslim living in India & I never felt short of opportunities as some pakistani's pointed out..The behaviour of all citizens are alike & we are not social problems for anyone..Please keep all your sympathies for Indian muslims with you because I know in india muslims interest are much better than in pak...for all those claiming how fair & linient this blog is please ensure democracy in your own country first we have it since the very day the word democracy came in existence. India is not perfect here too are extremists & radicals but exceptions are all over! just because there are some Narender modi's I cant distrust all others many of whom are my friends & colleagues, & helped us more than our own relatives....For Javed (Montreal)...dont you think there are too many if's & but's in ur article this time? A winner is a winner no matter what!!!! Keep awau from this blog atleast as I dont think you are fully recovered yet from the defeat....Take care

  • Amit on September 26, 2007, 15:54 GMT

    @Javed A. Khan from canada ;)

    "It was Gambhir's solo efforts that India won the match and not because of Irfan Pathan's bowling" ------ "Hats off to Misbah ul Haq, Umar Gul, and young Sohail Tanvir."

    So one man Gambhir's composure effort was too much for ur whole paki team. Now think if all indian players had given their 100% what wud be the end result. You guys shud be thanking Misbah (albeity blinder inning) otherwise 30 runs defeat was on the card. About Shahrukh -- yeah he is an actor and may be opportunist but he was there after BCCI invitation and didnt even publicize his forthcoming movie "Om Shanti Om" by showing his t-shirt, though he had every rite to do so. ---- "Should I say here like, George Bernard Shaw said, that 'half of the Indians are fools?'" --- At the time he made this statement ur parents or grandparents were indian not paki. So his statement was directed toward Indian subcontinent which were part of India around 1935. So do not spit on ur own face in the public forum.

  • Osman Ali Khairi on September 26, 2007, 15:43 GMT

    Also, on a totally unrelated note, (this MIGHT even help Elle in sunny South Africa, (I don’t know whether it’s the same Elle that I just spoke about!!)), if the readers are keen on following the war of words that are being exchanged between different people=p (And I’m assuming theyre not aware of this function!!=p) this might help and make your life easier! If there are any particular posts you would want to read by a particular individual, rather than scrolling up and down looking for it, all you have to do is press ctrl and ‘f’ and type the persons name and there we are! This is once again, only intended for those who are interested in following people’s responses to various posts and are UNWARE OF THIS FUNCTION. (I just had to say that in order to avoid looking really silly:p!)

  • Sameer A Malik on September 26, 2007, 15:29 GMT

    I can't understand why drama is being created out of nothing regarding the post-match comments by Shoaib Malik, I think Shoaib was not yet ready for that big responsibility of captain and he has not developed his communication skills yet, as its the tradition of Pakistan cricket that most of the cricketers develop their communication skills after coming to Pakistan team. I think he did not mean to express what came out of his mouth, he intentionally didn't want to diverse Muslims and others but he specially wanted to thank Muslims praying for team Pakistan during month of Ramadan. anyway he should be left alone as its not a big deal but only a drama created by that pandit Mukul. and Dear Shankar, i still stand tall with my point of view, India neither won this tournament because of Talent nor good captaincy tactics by Dhoni.

  • Osman Ali Khairi on September 26, 2007, 15:22 GMT

    Oh and I completely forgot (with reference to my post in which I pasted Elle's comments)! Thank you Elle for your unbiased and fair comments. I appreciate them, as I'm sure all Pakistanis here, do as well. Also, a big thank you to Mr Nirbhay Singh. Thank you sir. Its people like you that give me hope and make me feel that there are sensible and like-minded people on the other side of the border. Thank you, once again.

  • Ashaq on September 26, 2007, 12:33 GMT

    so much for liberality Kamran..the excuse of being liberal and open minded is used to allow comments that are anti-Islam but for someone to write a retort in response. Is not allowed.

    The Justification given by Kesavan was that Malik made his comments in public hence he (i.e. Kesavan) was justified in launching his diatribe.

    well in that case people are justified in responding to his brand of low grade Tabloid Journalism. If he is gonna dish it out then he should be man enough to take it. Whether his your colleauge or not you should not engage in censorship after all the man put himself on the Platform he deserves what he gets for creating a Mountain out of a molehill.

    Anyways I would urge Everyone to visit the Washington Times website and use the search engine to read the article called " Indias Muslims adopt Hindu names" to see how exactly pluralistic and inclusive the Indians are. As we have heard being consistently repeated on this thread.

  • salman Khan on September 26, 2007, 12:03 GMT

    Dear Raj, Your comment is the funniest . I will take the liberty to repeat it in bold letters.

    KNOCK! KNOCK!

    WHO'S THERE !

    MISBAH.

    MISBAH WHO ?

    MIS BAH 5 RUNS.

  • Ravi on September 26, 2007, 12:01 GMT

    JAVED A KHAN...Please read the post of khansahab(A.A.Khan) & you will get your answer....Malik is not all that innocent. Thank you khansahab(A.A.Khan) for a fair post.

  • Anam Ahmed on September 26, 2007, 11:53 GMT

    Both the teams were in great form and yes Pakistan's batting is still edgy we need to do somehting to bring openers who can take pressure of the middle order but anyway it was great to see Pakistan in the final but i cant believe that the score of 150 was that hard for Pakistan to chase. Dhoni is a fab captain with lots of energy and ideas but India deserved to win only because Pakistan didnt perform well, not bc we are weaker opponents.

  • Harreet on September 26, 2007, 11:13 GMT

    Well I think that both teams were fantastic, I mean talk abut an emotional rollercoaster!

    Although I am an India fan I have to say that Pakistan were in the winning position for a lot of the game, the major deciding factor was that the Indian players handled the pressure better in the last over.

    I think India have played well under Dhoni, being captain has brought out the best in him; he’s playing with more maturity now. However I feel he’s lost some of his excitement, his batting in general in this world cup has been less ‘risky’ that usual. Although I guess that’s probably a good thing if India want to win games, ha ha!

    Still I’m not totally convinced that he’s ready to be captain full-time, in the press conference he said ‘if they are looking for a verbal war, we’ll give them one’. I think this was a very naive comment; of course the players will probably argue back if instigated. But in terms of the image you are creating, the verbal arguments are not a nice part of the game; we don’t want team India to be associated with that.

    But what Dhoni said is nothing compared to the verbal suicide that Shoaib Malik committed! I’m really surprised that he hasn’t been cautioned or anything for the religious comment he made at the end of the match! I was feeling bit sorry for Pakistan until he said that, now I have no sympathy whatsoever, and I’m sure that he has probably just alienated all of the ‘non-muslim’ support that Pakistan had!

    Anyway we’ll see how the experienced players play against Australia compared to what the ‘Kids’ managed to achieve in South Africa.

  • Nihit on September 26, 2007, 11:00 GMT

    mr. wasim saquib.. you dont feel it cuz you are not on the other side of the stick here.. think about how you would feel if yousuf yuhana (before he converted) or danish kaneria if made captain would say they thank all the christian or hindus supporting them and totally ignoring others.. that may not feel rude to you at all i guess..

  • Roshan on September 26, 2007, 10:52 GMT

    JAVED A KHAN MONTREAL CANADA.

    Mr Javed it seems you are still struggling to swallow a simple fact that your team has lost the game thats why instead of writing about the game you chose to run after poor Mukul Keswan...Whatever Malik said he said it in the position of a captain who is representing his country & he must be held fully resposible for whatever comes out of his mouth...You are so quick to acquit him on the sole ground that his english is weak but I doubt that his english is so poor that he cant even distinguish between Muslim & Pakistanis...all muslims are not pakistani & all pakistanis are not muslims so he must have chosen his words carefully but since he was so afraid for the reaction back home he immediately wanted to console the ones he feared most so he used the word "Muslims". Indians have always respected people irrespective of their religion but it is something wrong with pakistan they have always displayed them as a religious country even on international cicuits...thats probably the reason why people like you mention the places of their residence that are not in pakistan like "Canada", "london", "Germany" & what not....At least be loyal to your own country.

  • Nihit on September 26, 2007, 10:43 GMT

    pakistani players i have a request.. please let us non-muslims like you and be a fan of you.

  • Nihit on September 26, 2007, 10:39 GMT

    Dear Mr. WASIM SAQIB, I had lot of respect for pakistan team and supported them in every match against Australia etc. and after the great comeback by Misbah.. i was feeling that pakistan and misbah deserved victory. however that comment gave me a reason to not trust pakistan that much as its players have no respect for people of other religion supporting them, who would danish kaneria be supporting? who would irfan pathan be supporting? I have never felt so much respect for pakistan team however maliks comments took a lot of it back.. i just hope tomorrow ponting also does not start thanking and dedicating his trophies to all the whites in the world and white supremacy etc etc

  • what does V V S stand for? on September 26, 2007, 9:46 GMT

    who cares about your blog anyway?

    INDIA - CHAMPIONS

  • sandy on September 26, 2007, 7:45 GMT

    Its a sad day for cricket to see thePAK captain on the event of final his first words were something to do with his religion and for a moment i was not sure if Osama was talking or some cricketer. he was thanking all muslims of muslim world and it was in bad taste and it further pushes pak to a theocratic state despite their claims of being a secular country. if something can be said on a cricket platform, god save religious minorities in pakistan. it just reflects the mass mentality and it is very depressing news. on the final night we did see a lot of whites rooting for pak holding their flags, wonder what they have to say on this...

  • Amit on September 26, 2007, 6:50 GMT

    @khansahab(A.A. khan) For how many years u have been watching cricket. There is no "ifs" and "buts" in cricket (as sidhu pajee says ;) ). Think about if Misbah have mistimed any of the shots he plays against harbhajan ... then pak would have faced miserable defeat (at least 20 - 30 runs). And all the news channels praising sharma is for holding nerves not for his 90mph yorkers and you guys are missing a point here too that the last one was slower delivery around 100 kmph (his normal delivery is around 120 kmph) thats why ball goes straight in to the fielders hand. And guys who think Misbah chosen the wrong shot go and ask Geff Lawson ("it was pretty much on the card as fine leg is inside the circle, it could have well gone for 4").

  • Elle in sunny South Africa! on September 26, 2007, 6:08 GMT

    On a lighter note...posted by gitika: "a body language that’s full of charisma"... hmmm probably...but someone ought to tell him to keep his shirt on. Really! ;-)

    I mean, I don't mind someone like Thierry Henry taking his shirt off...but man, Dhoni should keep his on. Flabsville. (okay, before I get castigated by a billion Indians, I just want to say that I blame my lopsided sense of humour for that one...and the fact that I haven't had coffee yet...)

    Now, back to cricket and hopefully my final word on the 20/20 world cup: I am very happy with what Malcolm Speed had to say about 20/20. Yes, it is a money generator. Yes, it brings in crowds and a whole lot of youngsters to the game. But the line has to be drawn somewhere or else the lifespan of a cricketer will be the same of that of a supermodel. Total burn-out by age 25.

    After all, with no players, there will be no game. If 20/20 is not reined in, then I'm afraid the players will be burnt out. And in the end the loser is cricket. All form of the game.

    Mr Abassi, may I ask something please? (you can delete this bit when you review this post) I am new to this blog of yours but enjoying it immensely, as you can see. I hope to do a lot more posting here seeing as the Proteas are in Pakistan at present. My request then. Is there a way to number these posts? I try to read through everybody's comments because I feel that is the right thing to do, and sometimes I think I might want to reply to a particular post or make reference to a remark. I just think it would be easier for little old me to just say post number so -and - so...

    Just a kind request. If it can't be done, well that is fine too!

    Kindest regards

    Estelle

  • Omer Admani on September 26, 2007, 3:16 GMT

    Can you please write a column on the consistent failures of Akmal. It is not bc of his batting, but he drops (literally) about half the catchs plus stumpings. He WILL do that when SA visit Pakistan and Pakistan must try a new wicketkeeper (who knows wicket keeping nevermind the batting).

    Also, Kaneria would become almost useless with Akmal behind the wickets. One strategy that Pakistan can use against SA is to prepare batting pitches that will take turn-- and use Kaneria as an advantage. Kaneria, hwoever, will be useless if Akmal is keeping. If we let Akmal's missed opportunities go unnoticed, then he will turn test matches on his own by consistently dropping big players. We have seen that in SA and we have seen that in England. We have seen that in the world cup when he dropped Lara and luckily Lara still got out. We have seen Pieterson make so many centuries, just because Akmal refuses to take his catch. Also, we have seen Akmal's potential when he dropped 8, 10 catchs in a single match in SA. Also, Any pitch that supports bowling will mean that our weak batting attack will easily be exposed. And let Shaun Pollock and company at their age work in the match for 5 days in the first match so that they hav not much steam for the next matches (kinda like what we did to Flintoff and Harmison). This will also give Pakistan to settle in new batsmen, and hopefully, some new batsman can get confidence going by playing on batting-friendly tracks.

  • MJ on September 26, 2007, 0:24 GMT

    WASIM SAQIB: What the blazes do you know about the plight (as you call it) of Muslims in India? Kindly do not think your own warped perceptions apply to those of us who lead--and have been given every opportunity to lead--dignified and successful lives in a country that tries its very best to be secular. India's not without its imperfections, and while religious bigotry does exist (Muslims vs Hindus _and_ vice-versa), it is not allowed to lessen in any way the opportunity I have--the same as a citizen of India of any other religious denomination--to lead a dignified and self-sufficient life. It is possible that you weren't aware of this; if so, it is my request that you correct your view. This, incidentally, is the very crime of which Mukul Kesavan is guilty: He is stirring up foment by attempting to pass his personal opinion off as fact.

    Raj: That was quite a clever knock-knock joke. Loved it.

  • Zed Fazel, Leicester on September 25, 2007, 23:07 GMT

    CONGRATULATIONS INDIA. It was an achievement to defend a modest total of 157. Let us NOT gloss it over. Pakistan THREW away the Final and those responsible should be brave enough to own up. Yunis (the most experienced Pakistan batsmen)played like a novice. And he got Imran Nazir run out. The previous ball, Nazir complained of a strained thigh muscle, was refused a runner and yet Yunis called him for a sharp single! Strange really!! Secondly, Afridi needs to be shown the door. It has become so easy to predict his throwing his wicket away. And the MAN of the Tournament should have been UMAR GUL.

  • WASIM SAQIB on September 25, 2007, 22:55 GMT

    FOR SOL:

    Please read your last post all over again, you will notice that you criticized only those two batsmen who performed well in the final. You can call any body Paindoo, Muttarwa or Akhroat it doesn't matter to me at all the fact of the matter is that the match was only lost because of the boneheaded innings of Younis Khan and an early dismissal of Afridi. Now if you want to blame or curse the only two players who brought the team close to winning then it’s your own choice, its true that Misbah single handedly brought us close to victory from the brink of defeat in two matches and stopped short each time now is it his fault that the so called "Bhais" and "Khalifas" of the team failed in both of those matches and failed to deliver and brought the team in such a hopeless position. I don't think so. Younis Khan mysteriously ran out his well set partner twice in this tournament "on both occasions against India" and immediately after that threw away his wicket to a strange shot. But amazingly your lips are sealed about that like it never happened. Now coming back to Fawad Alam, I was constantly asking to include him in the team until I saw him bowl in the Semis he got lucky in the Semis the same way as Jogindar Sharma got lucky in the finals but anybody who understands bowling could have easily seen that his bowling was pretty ordinary we already saw him bat once where he got out on the first ball he is still very young and may have a bright future ahead of him but it's too early to make him a hero. Some of his biggest supporters on this Blog were also Skeptical of including him in the team for Semi Finals and they expressed their reservations about it on this blog that it will be unfair to include him in a pressure cooker match as he might not be able to handle the pressure in reality it was a clever way of hedging against his performance in the Semis so that if he fails all the blame should lay with the Captain. The same people are now criticizing his exclusion from the team in the finals. I wrote those lines about Fawad just because I anticipated that unnecessary criticism. I have nothing against that young player I wish him a long and prosperous future and I sincerely hope that one day he actually becomes a hero not by hype but by actually performing.

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on September 25, 2007, 22:42 GMT

    In my yesterday's post I had promised that I will do the postmortem of the defeat in my next post. I could see that some people are very anxious to read my views, Munir from Sharjah I won't disappoint you 'bhai.' And my chanda Moon you seems to be more than anxious to see me writing. As for Mukul's retort against Malik, I want others to say something rather than being mere spectators. But, for me its enough, I have already written a lot and in this post I would say (pyjamay da koi zikr nai) meaning there is no more discussion about the "pyjama." (and this is with reference to Moin Akhtar's Pind de Chowdhry Saab.)

    Now, who is responsible for Pakistan's defeat? The way I see things is as follows:

    1. Shoaib Malik for making changes in the team and in the batting order. Fawad Alam should not have been replaced by Arafat and Kamran Akmal should not have been promoted at number 3. Poor captaincy Malak Saab. But, don't worry I don't doubt your loyalties and your integrity and you have my full support on that issue. Lay-kin, I will call 'spade a spade.' If you want to be a good captain, don't be intimidated by others in team selection or feel ashamed or afraid to ask a senior player to play at the top or wherever you deem fit. But, don't say I don't want to put anyone under pressure and let me ask him where he wants to play at what number? 2. Younis Khan for breaking that momentum created by Imran Nazir. It was indeed a pleasing sight to see the monkey getting mauled by Imran Nazir. But, what a waste he got run out because of YK. Younis Khan shouldn't have taken the single, in fact he should have used his head after seeing him limping and the umpire refused him for a runner, YK should have talked to Nazir and assured him that I won't put you in any danger so, don't call for a single! After all Misbah used his head and refused to take a single and thrashed the next three balls for three sixes in a row of Harbhajan which shattered his confidence and the turbonator refused to bowl the last over. Luck favoured the Jogi otherwise he would have been another Sharma in the oblivion. 3. Afridi for his poor and pathetic shot selection and his hot headed attitude against Irfan Pathan to hit him for a six on the first ball, he deserved that duck. And it is a BS statement in the end that he is not concentrating on his batting these days and only concentrating on his bowling and fielding. He wouldn't have said that had he not taken the wickets and received the player of the tournament award. Despite the fact that I was not in favour of Misbah's inclusion in the team, after his three consecutive fantastic solo efforts and the way he played under pressure on all of those occasions, I would have given that player of the tournament award to Misbah for sure. 4. Hafeez for playing a poor shot and prior to that dropping that crucial catch of Rohit on the other side of the fence thereby giving away a six, that was the margin of loss. Not only that, had Sharma gone back, the run rate would have dropped. 5. Kamran Akmal had a lousy performance throughout this tournament especially with his bat. Pakistan should seriously look for his replacement.

    Some people are criticizing Misbah for that poor shot selection. I don't think Misbah deserves any criticism for that scoop shot. In fact, he should be praised for the heroic efforts that he has put up throughout this tournament and fought so valiantly and bravely till the end. It is just a matter of luck that scoop shot did not go any further than Sreesanth's throat. And, Jogi Sharma didn't bowl a good ball either to get Misbah out. In fact Jogi Sharma and Dhoni, both of them were very nervous and they were coughing and spitting after the last six that Misbah smashed straight over the bowlers head.

    Sharma had no strength to bowl any faster than he did, had Misbah scooped that ball a little harder or higher and had it gone over Sreesanth's head for a four it would have been a different story. Ifs & Buts will not change the result and thats the sad ending to Misbah's heroic efforts. More than anyone else he will be regretting about it for the rest of his life for not putting a little more weight behind his bat to play that shot. The lesson to learn playing this scoop shot is, think "Ashraful", I remember each time Mohammad Ashraful played that scoop shot, it went for a six.

    After the 15th over it appeared that Pakistan has lost the match by miles, but in the last over after Misbah's six the match was in Pakistan's grip with 4 balls to spare, for Pakistani supporters the sudden ending was a shocking anti-climax. But, such is the game of cricket, especially twenty20. The lesson to learn here, keep wickets in hands, don't throw them away. Even if Misbah was gone, someone would have thrown his bat to get the remaining 4-5 runs.

    To give credit to Dhoni for being so cool or intelligent young captain is all BS. Had India lost, they would have criticized him like hell. I knew that neither Dhoni nor Yuvraj would score in the final and I wrote this in my previous post that it is not possible for Yuvraj to hit sixes and nines every time. It was Gambhir's solo efforts that India won the match and not because of Irfan Pathan's bowling. He was stealing runs while the wickets were tumbling around him and he gave his bowlers a decent total to defend otherwise if you delete his runs from India's total, they were all out under 80 runs.

    Hats off to Misbah ul Haq, Umar Gul, and young Sohail Tanvir. I was impressed by the straight six that Tanvir smashed over the bowler's head and what a way to start his International batting career? A six on the first ball he faced, wow that was too good and that too, it was such an effortless shot that made you think as if he has been playing International cricket all his life. Even his other six, a flick of the wrist on to the leg side also sailed effortlessly in to the stands. I think he can bat better than Yasir Arafat and his bowling is also definitely better than him. So, he should be playing a little higher up the batting order. Even the way he stands up while facing the bowling gives you the impression that he is an accomplished batsman so full of confidence.

    Finally, a word about Shahrukh Khan the actor. Those who think he is cool or he is so supportive of Indian cricket that he came all the way to support them are real dimwits. He is an actor, an opportunist who wants to be seen and get more popular. Thats a cheap stint and he knows how to use the sentiments of the masses and fool them. Should I say here like, George Bernard Shaw said, that 'half of the Indians are fools?' If I am annoying them by quoting this, then in my next post I will take back my words, until then, au revoir et à bientôt.

  • Deepak Naidu on September 25, 2007, 22:34 GMT

    ha ha ha !!! Mr Javed A Khan, you are hilarious in you blogs ! how can you be so gullible to even think that mukul would post his blog here on pak spin ! that is not him. keep your opinions to what you can justify and not make a fool of yourself in a public forum.

  • khansahab(A.A.Khan) on September 25, 2007, 22:32 GMT

    Awas and other critics,

    I am not supporting Mukul at all and to be honest I have not even read his post about this issue. I don't care what he says or does. All I am saying is that Malik should refrain from speaking about religion in any way. Since his English is poor it can be misinterpreted which can lead to resentment against moderate, sensible and educated Muslims in the West who are already frequent victims of Islamophobia.

    Javed Bhai, you need to realise that not all Muslims were supporting Pakistan. As I stated earlier many British Muslims and Indian Muslims support their countries of nationality, not Pakistan. Lots of Bangladeshi Muslims feel bitter about Pakistan and would not be praying for them to win. So let us be clear about the so called “universal and unanimous” Muslim support for Pakistan.

    Maybe I was too hot-headed in my post regarding Malik’s comment earlier but that is only because I have been a victim of racism and Islamophobia many times and what most of us don’t realise is that what we say and do contributes a lot towards this anti-Pakistan sentiment and Islamophobia. Hence I feel Malik’s comment should not be supported because much of the non Muslim world will misinterpret it.

  • Osman Ali Khairi on September 25, 2007, 22:28 GMT

    I am incredibly disheartened to see that only 16 (yes, I counted) out of 600 odd responses on Mukul’s have tried to look at things from an independent and unprejudiced angle, and abstained from sensationalizing Shoaib’s statement. Being one of the first to point out Mukul’s rhetoric and his sycophants’ response on Pak spin, I feel uneasy that no Indian contributing here has tried to put this issue to rest by offering an alternative point of view. There are extremist elements in every society but to see such a disturbingly, overwhelming number of Indians make a mountain out of a mole hill and rebuke Shoaib for what he said, while very well knowing that it was not his intention to discredit the Indian Muslims or question their loyalty, is just well distressing and disconcerting to say the least. I am also upset at the way Mukul has phrased Malik’s entry (“As he collected his loser’s medal”) in his fanatical analysis. That’s just sick. It is ironic that there was only one response that completely contradicted Mukul’s version of events and lo and behold, it came from a neutral. For the benefit of all the bloggers here, with your permission Kamran bhai, I am pasting it here.

    Posted by: Elle 11 hours, 16 minutes ago I think sir, you are overreacting. Sorry. You see, I am a neutral. (South African) Not Indian, Not Pakistani. Not Muslim, not part of Christendom. BUT, I watched all the games...and for each and every game I chose a team to support, except the final. Now, I believe that Malik was so caught up in the moment that what he really meant to say was completely misconstrued. Seeing as English is sort of my third language too, I know how that can happen. As far as the captains congratulating one another are concerned, I want to correct one of the posters here. Malik DID congratulate India ...It was Dhoni who made no reference at all to the Paksitani's. I was a bit dissapointed with that.

    Which reminds me as Elle appropriately points us, no Indian bothered to even make a passing reference to the fact that Dhoni refused (or perhaps, forgot?) to offer his commiserations to the Pakistanis or failed to congratulate them for the role they played. Afridi and Shoaib, despite not being as articulate as some of the Indian players (including Irfan Phatan who deservedly won the MOM award), at least had the decency to

    mention the effort of the Indian players in winning a hard fought contest. Also, I was wishing, at the end of the game, (as someone earlier mentioned in this blog), that an Indian player would do a Flintoff and go over to Misbah and put his hands on his shoulders and say well played. What a fine display of sportsmanship that would have been! I guess, inferring from what happening on Mukul’s blog, it was too much to expect. Nonetheless, I am hoping that a sane, rational Indian will reply to this comment in good taste and help us understand things from their perspective.

  • Irfan on September 25, 2007, 22:11 GMT

    I fail to see the double standards placed, by cricketing nations such as South Africa, talking about be confined in hotels and pakistan being a dangerous, place, Johannesburg is probably one of the most dangerous places in the world in terms of crime. The pakistani players got mugged, and assaulted there a few years ago. Pakistanis should make the same reciprocal action when touring South Africa.

  • Deepak Naidu on September 25, 2007, 22:09 GMT

    # Muhammad Shafiq wrote - My conclusion is " India won coz there were 1.1 Billion (1100 Million)indians were praying for Indian success, comparative to maximum 200 Millions Pakistanis (0.2 Billions). Mr Shafiq, if that is the case then pakistan will loose every single match against india !!! they should rather stop playing ! prayers, my dear friend, does help a team somewhat but not in getting end results ! the fact is on paper now, accept it and move on instead of giving lame excuses...

    raj_milind - you should be ashamed of you biased comments about misbah. checking for drugs ??? you are out of your mind.

    yes, i feel sad too that neither malik nor dhoni had the decency to congratulate each other after the match or during presentations. i appreciate afridi for that though i still feel he should not have been the man of the tournament !

  • Raja Pakistani on September 25, 2007, 22:06 GMT

    So many people critised Shoaib Malik on the inclusion of Yasir Arfat.

    Shoaib preferd him over Fawad Alam.

    Fawad Alam Should be in the team. Why he was not selected?

    Remeber what Shoaib said about his PUNJABI theory in Nadia Khan talk show.

    Yasir Arfat is from Pindi and Fawad Alam is only urdu speaking person in the current team. So he was treated same as other current desrving players from Karachi i.e: Asim Kamal (9 fifties out of 12th test), Faisal Iqbal (Out from the team after scoring century), Sarfraz Ahmed (WC, batsman and Captain of winning under 19 team), Khalid Latif (Inform opening batsman), Khurrum Manzoor(Inform opening batsman), Anwar Ali (Young fast bowler, who performed very well in under 19 WC and Pakistan won 19 WC), Mohd Sami (Fastest bowler in the country after Shoaib Akthar and the best filder in the team).

    Unfortunately PCB never gave none of them fair chances. Current example Fawad Alam performance was very satisficatory in the semi final but he was dropped in the final, why, why, why?

    Asim Kamal scored 9 fifties outy of his total 12 test matches but he always ignored by captain and selectors. Inzi started discrimination against him.

    Raja Pakistani Sialkot

  • gitika on September 25, 2007, 21:37 GMT

    Congrats India and Pakistan for putting up such a spirited show, which was envious for every non-Asian eye and an inspirational doze for youngesters across the globe!

    I personally feel, the ultimate Superhero is M.S. Dhoni. He’s so rich with his tactics – got a real superb cricket brain – a body language that’s full of charisma – yet so cool-headed – and he also had that special knack that united the young players, and filled them with immense courage and high spirits! This victory is a well-deserved one – for a young, bouncy and fearless side! And a much much more deserved one for a captain who had complete faith in his team-mates, whatever be the condition of the match – he’s a blessing for Indian Cricket – thanks for pulling that 100% out from every player – you are wow!

  • Osman Ali Khairi on September 25, 2007, 20:51 GMT

    Kamran bhai, please approve this. I have no way of getting in touch with Misbah or well, any of the other Pakistani players for that matter. And well, there is no guarantee that any of them will even read this post of mine, but hey, who knows. Maybe, someone who knows Misbah might read this and convey it to him or maybe, just maybe, Misbah himself might stumble upon this post. Just give me the chance to send him a message or two via this blog. I just wish to say to Misbah that I am sorry I castigated you when you were selected to represent Pakistan. You have represented our country with pride and distinction. And nothing can beat that. Not even a world cup victory over India. I prayed for you, as did millions of Pakistanis all over but alas, it was not meant to be THIS TIME. I say that, because I believe that prayers never go to waste and one day, one day, I just know it, YOU will get another chance to make amends. This day could be the final of the 2011 world cup in India, who knows, but that day will come. As they say, every dog has its day, and so will we. We might have lost, but you have won so many hearts, including mine. I will pray for you every single day, for your happiness and for all your pursuits in life, irrespective of whatever happens. I mean that. For you have already succeeded in our eyes, so you don’t need to ever dwell over what happened. But remember, ‘mauqa to phir millay ga’. History always repeats itself. And hopefully, and InshALLah, all of us will be there to witness your greatest moment.

  • WASIM SAQIB on September 25, 2007, 20:40 GMT

    I don't think Malik needs to give any explanation or apology as I found nothing offensive in his speech it was a mere slip of tongue or bad grammar but the way Mukul blew it out of proportions is pathetic and most of the Indians also jumped on his wagon that is even more pathetic, we all know a lot of Muslims live in India, we also know their plight you guys don't have to tell us. Several guys tried to relate this issue with fundamentalism and extremism, it’s nothing new, nowadays it has become a fashion to associate every thing with Muslim fundamentalism, and the media propaganda has been so effective in this respect that it has rendered our brains ineffective we can no longer form judgments independently and without prejudice. A sportsman trying to thank his Muslim countrymen for their support and prayers is also associated with fundamentalism and cannot escape criticism; well this is the height of narrow mindedness.

    A small suggestion to my Indian friends “it would be nice if you try to digest this victory with a little bit of grace trust me it won't hurt.

    I think it’s high time that PCB employs somebody to teach English to the players, my fellow blogger Javed A Khan has been reiterating this for quite sometime but it seems nobody is listening.

  • chanik_29 on September 25, 2007, 19:49 GMT

    i saw some pakistani fans are blamimg misbal ul haq(poor guy)for his shot selection .but u genious , bloggers and lovers of cricket. u cant understand cricket as long ur brains is filled with mud . i really got puzzled how younis khan(so called fine stroke player)played such a stupid,mindless,idiot shot when no need .at one end with captan shoib mallik playing wht made him to play a reckless shot with three wickets down .it was the major turning point of the match.from then indian bowlers really sat on the the batsmen head . with a senior player younis khan that too in a final of a world cup plays such a irresponsible short wht can we expect from others . so untill 17 over indians dominated the match but after a brave,sweet, confindent misbal ul haq charged over harbhajan singh for three sixes . it was the balance suddenly and also deeply shifted towards pakistan and it continued untill last over with 4 balls. 6 runs needed . i will analyse wht had gone in his small brain .which every one misunderstood including so called analysts of the game . at the point with prevoius match(INDIA VS PAKISTAN in group league) of his own experiance with 2 balls and 1 run he was not able to make it . so he would have tought to not to take the match untill last ball and to have extra pressure on him .so he planned to get a six or four from the next ball and get the remaining 2 runs in three runs if it was a four . or a six can complete the match . the shot he tried was a safest shot in the tournament (if observed). but there his fate turned out. two reasons why this short failed . 1). when he came to position to play the shot,immediately seeing it fielder(sreesanth)already placed ran back . 2). if it was a regular seemer the ball definetely would have carried to boundary. but the bowler(sharma) with having no speed(which proved his LUCK) in bowling was misjudged by misbal ul haq which resulted landed in the miidle itself safely in the hands of sreesanth.thats how drama ended . i would really congrat misbal ul haq for his commitment(which seniors like tounis khan , afridi and captain shoaib mallik lack).

    instead of prasing him for his patriotic attempt.many idiotic pakistan fans are blaming him. so before coming to a conclusion think before with brain.

  • Prashanth Reddy on September 25, 2007, 19:47 GMT

    However much you can attribute the comments by Shoaib Malik to poor English, one would always be a little bit sensitive to anything relating to religion. See.....I might have all the good intentions on earth, but when I am about to use terms like "Islam", "Muslim", "Hindu", "Christian", "Sikh"....I try to be careful and make sure that I say what I want to say, but without giving any hint of hurting someone, or raking up a controversy. I mean these are sensitive words when you are especially talking in public, more so if you are a public figure like SM. He should have said "I am sorry to all the people who prayed for our success".......now how difficult was that?? It is much simpler than what he said. Now, having 'proved' that he said what he had to say was intentional......the question now arises, why did he want to say that? Do players from Pak always perceive a match between India and Pakistan as Hindu vs Muslims?? Atleast we (Indians) definitely do not think like that. I hardly remember an Indian team without a Muslim in it. Muslims form integral part of our society. We might have our share of problems, but when it come serious matters like Indian team selection, or selection of a President of our nation...etc religion is never a criteria. We, as a society, have a responsibility for the sentiments of our all communities, and could never ever imagine to make statement like what SM did. You guys are saying that Indian media is unnecessarily making an issue about it, then let me tell you something. If Dhoni had made a statement like that he'd be taken to task right away......and ridiculed and subjected to public humiliation. Now those are the values we have been brought up with.

  • khansahab(A.A.Khan) on September 25, 2007, 18:35 GMT

    I watched a few Indian TV channels after the final and heavy praise was mentioned for Joginder Sharma. With all due respect to the Indian team I don’t think Sharma was so great. Most of his balls were well outside off stump to Malik and Younis and they were full length deliveries that could easily have been smacked for boundaries. Then later on all he could bowl were full tosses. I was surprised the Pakistani batsmen could not hit more sixes on his bowling. As far as his delivery to Misbah which resulted in the latter’s dismissal, it was a very ordinary ball to which a very poor stroke was played on. I knew it is not necessary to be a McGrath in Twenty20 cricket but why lavish so much praise on someone who could be a huge liability in One Day or Test cricket? The only reason why Sharma succeeded against Australia and Pakistan was that the two teams were under a lot of pressure. For what it’s worth Dhoni could himself have had a bowl in the game against Australia. There was no way Australia could chase so many runs in the last over and as regards Pakistan Misbah lost the plot all of a sudden. Lastly I would like to inform all Indians that please don’t get me wrong- I think India played really well to reach the final, but Pakistan lost because of some very stupid shots (which have become a trademark for some batsmen now), rather than any proficient Indian bowling. Speaking of trademarks how many times have we seen Hafeez angling his bat towards his lover (slip fielder) and gleefully gifting him his wicket? How many times have we seen Imran Nazir and Younis get involved in a run out (not necessarily with each other)? How many times have we seen Afridi get out playing a shot to mid off or mid on, on the first ball he faces? What do you call people who keep committing the same mistakes when they are intelligent enough to understand what they are doing wrong? You call them “stupid”.

    I wonder when the squad will be announced for the series against South Africa? The first match is only a week away and I thought the squad would have been announced today. What concerns me the most is which bowlers will be selected and make it to the final XI. We have four primary candidates in Asif, Gul, Rao and Tanvir now and Najaf Shah, Sami, Irshad etc seem to be fully fit and raring to go. I don’t know what will happen to Yousuf in the future but he remains an asset to Pakistan even in ODI’s. I am not sure whether Younis will get kicked out or not but a middle order with Malik, Yousuf and Misbah will be very formidable in both ODI’s and Tests.

  • satyajit on September 25, 2007, 18:33 GMT

    To JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA All muslims may have been fasting but I assure you not all were supporting Pakistan.

    To khansahab(A.A.Khan): Very well said. Much appreciated

  • Rajan on September 25, 2007, 18:18 GMT

    One comment from Shoaib Malik is enough to say with reasonable gurantee that the heir apparetn to Mullah Inzamam ul haq as arrived. Soon Shoaib will have a beard and cricket will take secondary priority. History repeats itself.

  • Wasim Jaffer from India on September 25, 2007, 18:15 GMT

    Bottom line is India won and is the winner. All other things like cricket was winner and well fought and blah blah is consolation. Fact is WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS ;) Issue closed. Misbah missed victory and choked two times in the tournament and people are calling him lion heart.A Job half done is as good as not done;). All he did was rasie Pakistani hopes and to dash them in the end;).Cool WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS T20 CHAMPIONS.

  • Awas on September 25, 2007, 17:55 GMT

    JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA

    Fitting response to Mukul. Brilliant! I congratulate you for responding to it so well. I was equally astounded by reading his nonsense. Your use of the word “Fitna” was so apt. As I said in my earlier blogg the fact of the matter was that Shoaib, before the final, was receiving messages of goodwill from all over the world from his well wishers but he couldn’t express it properly.

    It is unfortunate that our learned khansahab(A.A.Khan) has gone along with the flow of what Mukul said without realising his fitnagiri.

  • saurabh on September 25, 2007, 17:39 GMT

    Great game of cricket in which the fulkrum was swinging from one side to other viciously.Wonder when we would be getting a normal Ind-Pak game.Still i believe we need to firmly keep our stance on land since this is just a beginning.Both these teams have a tough and busy schedule ahead.There are a lot of tough matches which would better test the skill and captaincy of the teans and their respective captains.But still we won't avoid sulking in the aftermath of a fantastic World cup win.Kudos to india,better luck pak next time.Cheers...!

  • Osman Ali Khairi on September 25, 2007, 17:31 GMT

    This is in response to Amar (above) who argues that Mukul allows Pakistani responses. That is preposterous and absurd. For the fact of the matter is that on an average, there are never more than 3-4 posts by Pakistanis on his blogs (and that is not because of a lack of effort on our part), whereas for Pak Spin there are so many responses from Indians, which btw is great as we love to hear peoples’ opinions from across the border, be it on our blog! Furthermore, in sharp contrast to the popular misconception that Pakistanis are the most intolerant people, we 'generally' tolerate and respect their views, as is evident from the numerous responses from Indians on Kamran's blog that do get published. However, Mr. Mukul, for whatever reason, refuses to endorse a statement like ‘Lets not make an issue out of a non issue and blow things out of proportion. Give Malik the benefit of the doubt’; Primarily, because it doesn’t reinforce what he is trying to proclaim. So I challenge Mr. Amar here to show me 5 posts (if he can) by Pakistanis where they have spoken against what Mukul has written and have gotten their response published.

  • Chacha Koora Kirkit on September 25, 2007, 16:54 GMT

    Was that baseball or cricket? Surely you cannot call that rubbish cricket!

    Cricket has been a loser!

    Roll on the test match season.....

  • MJ on September 25, 2007, 16:49 GMT

    Pakistan should have won both of their matches against India--1 run off 2 balls and 6 runs of 5 are scored routinely in this day and age of competetive cricket. While the matches were evenly contested, it was in the end that Misbah chose to unleash his impressive technique (perhaps the Indian bowlers helped with some loose bowling) and take Pakistan to the brink of victory. In his position, would Shoaib Malik or Younis Khan (or any other Pakistani middle-order batsman) have been able to score the winning runs and secure victory for Pakistan? The answer is a resounding 'yes'. And why? Experience: lots of it. Misbah has been through the furnace twice, giving a creditable account of himself on both occasions. That he couldn't hold his nerves to finish may be attributed to lack of experience. This competition has given him just that [experience], and I suspect that he is the better for it. So, for what it is worth, supporters of the Pakistani cricket team, take heart in the knowledge that while the cup may not be yours, yours was the moral victory. And if that doesn't make the pill any less bitter, take heart in the knowledge that you now have a middle-order batsman who, in addition to being naturally talented and gifted, also has gained sufficient experience to become a successful finisher.

    One more thing: India-Pakistan encounters usually have nervewracking finishes; whom do we have to blame for our players succumbing to nerves to the extent of gifting the match to the opposition? It is the inordinate lack of perspective from which the fans suffer. Stop looking at such contests as proxy warfare and start enjoying them for what they are: adrenaline-pumping contests between two extremely talented (yet curiously diminutive) teams whose all consuming will to vanquish the opposition ensures cricket of the highest caliber. Indo-Pak relations are no longer strained, as they were a decade ago. We walk shoulder-to-shoulder in virtually all walks of life. Let's try to keep things in perspective.

  • Bilal Bin Tanweer on September 25, 2007, 16:38 GMT

    I’m 200% agreed with the context your column. Yes we have lost and yes it is always pain full to lose to India, but its a start of new era in the Pakistani cricket team. We as nation should appreciate the way our team performed in this tournament. The Team spirit was high, their huger for victory was there too and the whole team played as a UNIT.

    Our team tried their best and they gave their 100%, I have no doubt about that.

    I am sad as everyone in Pakistan but I am so happy that we gained a lot from this tournament.

    Its may be God’s will that the result has turn out like the way it seems. May be there is a bigger reward for our cricket team in this lose.

  • Amar on September 25, 2007, 16:05 GMT

    Faraz (The first Faraz on all of Kamran's blogs) ...are you KA in disguise? lol..there goes my chance of having this posted!!

    sledge malik? cheapshot arguments? excuse me!! you people need to stop having radical outlook to everything!! try giving respect to others so that others will respect you!! I fully support what MK has written.It was really a lame pathetic attempt by Malik to save himself from fans back home!!

    PS : Mr Talal : "do whatever possible - teach kesavan a lesson?" what next a fatwa for his head?

    and Mr Kamran PLS POST THIS..LIKE MUKUL DOSE BY POSTING ALL PAKISTANI RESPONSES!! I WANT PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG TO READ MY RESPONSE RATHER THAN ON MUKULS BLOG.

  • Moon on September 25, 2007, 16:05 GMT

    What a thrilling final of a shinning tournament, both teams played extremely well and India benefited at the end. Misbah deserved Man Of Series award. BTW Where is Javed Khan (read: Sitarah Anjum) Javed Uncle Stop hiding behind the bushes. Kamran Abbassi, sir whats going on at our fellow blog, why are they bashing Shoaib Malik over his comments? Poor chap has English problem like all other Pakistani cricketers, must be a slip of tongue!

  • Ali on September 25, 2007, 14:56 GMT

    Faraz, whatever you try to portrait what MALIK said was just stupid, he is playing for country for many years now and if you dont know how to say something its just plain stupid. I also thinks Malik's captaincy in final was not good, sending Akmal was big mistake as wickets always adds on pressure while I dont think anybody dares to say any of our senior players that you are going to sit out if you play rash shots like that however important you r to team. one example why I love Dhony's captaincy much more is how openly he said about yuvraj (for SA match) and Sehwag(for final). he said they wont play if not fit enough and they actually did not played. thats the gut and thats positiveness that the twelth or thirteenth player is as good as 11. Though Pakistan reached final I dont think all is well with in team. Come longer versions of game and we have many things to sort out not the least of shoaib-afridi-asif saga.

  • Sol on September 25, 2007, 14:15 GMT

    This is for Mr. Wasim Saqib... In last couple of lines of your post you mentioned about Fawad Alam being a Hero w/o playing just because where is he from??? What is this mean buddy? I think Malik did a huge blunder of playing Arafat in this game. Fawad Alam would be a better and decent choice because we needed someone down in the batting line who have some cricketing brain. Not like Misbah and other pay do's. Misbah proved it twice that you cannot win games if you don't have a wise head no matter how composed or talented your are. How come Imran Nazir was selected in this game if he was not fit. Typical pay do giree. Saab Garraeee team may hoon tu what else you can expect.

  • Awas on September 25, 2007, 14:04 GMT

    I am one of those who like to believe that religion should be left out of cricket field but Mukul Kesavan has made a big issue out of a non-issue. A learned writer like him should have given Shoaib benefit of the doubt because of his poor English combined with disappointment of defeat.

    The fact of the matter is that Shoaib, before the final, was receiving messages of goodwill from all over the world from his well wishers, wising his team luck with prayers during this holly month. He just wanted to thank them but expressed it poorly. Plus the stamp of Inzamam’s legacy has not been wiped out yet. Looking at the reaction from comments made by his likeminded bloggers, I am sorry to say, Mukul by writing on the subject the way he did has only highlighted his own prejudices in a way that someone with only a small Hindu mindedness can do. Shameful writing by stirring up the matter. It would have been better instead to celebrate a wonderful final.

  • Umair Qazi on September 25, 2007, 13:29 GMT

    About 12-15 years back, whenever I wasn't playing or watching cricket, I would use my free time by filling in my diary with fantasy cricket teams such as the World Test XI, World ODI XI, Asia XI, among many others. I would pair Sachin Tendulkar and Sanath Jayasuriya at the top followed by Mark Waugh and Inzamam-ul-Haq. I would have Wasim Akram and Allan Donald open the bowling with Courtney Walsh and Shane Warne to follow. All those years ago, I used to wonder if I would ever get a chance to watch these great players play in the same team and whether cricket would ever become like football where the top players from different countries turn out to play for the same club. It happened to some extent in county cricket with Wasim Akram and Micheal Atherton playing for Lancashire, Saqlain Mushtaq and Alec Stewart turning out in Surrey colors but it was hardly covered on TV the way the Premier League or Champions League football was.

    There were numerous matches involving a World XI team against a touring team in England in those days but again, they were never covered on TV. The first glimpse I got of my childhood fantasy was when the ICC tried its hand at a Super Series with the best players making up a team to compete against Australia in a test and 3 ODIs. I was quite excited about that, but due to the one sided nature of the matches the ICC decided to scrap the idea altogether. Then came the Afro-Asia Cup, brainchild of the Asian Cricket Council – that brought together the best Asian players against the African but the involvement of Kenya and Zimbabwe in an African XI made the event quite boring, and I never got to see my dream opening combo of Sachin Tendulkar and Sanath Jayasuirya. Furthermore, due to the heavy load of the international cricket calendar, a lot of the top players decide to give such tournaments a miss making it a second string affair.

    I believe the T20 euphoria that has gripped the cricketing world will finally provide me with what I used to fantasize of as a 12 year old kid. The first ever T20 world cup has been a success and the ICC along with 5 major cricket boards have launched premiere leagues and champions league cricket on the lines of football. Domestic champions and runners up of T20 tournaments in India, Pakistan, Australia, South Africa, and England will play each other in a champions league around October 2008 – just over a year away. Moreover the domestic teams competing in the premiere leagues as well as those involved in the champions league will be allowed to trade players and have international stars along with domestic stars. The teams will be owned by corporates as franchises and the highest bidders will have the best players. The opportunities here are endless - imagine a Mobilink XI having a pace attack comprising of Mohd. Asif, Glen Mcgrath, and Shaun Pollock or a Reliance XI having a top order comprising of Sachin Tendulkar, Matthew Hayden, and Jacques Kallis – WOW! I would pay top dollar to watch that. Imagine the bidding wars with the likes of Mian Mansha of Pakistan and Anil Ambani trying to lure Shane Warne into their team.

    Not only will my fantasy come true but I believe cricket as a sport will flourish. The T20 brand of cricket has opened a large number of floodgates providing endless opportunities for the sport. The 2010 Asian Games will for the first time ever include a cricket competition. The Olympics may consider including cricket in the future. The largest untapped markets, USA and China will probably take up the game due its popularity and revenue potential. Regions that have not adopted cricket due to an aversion to the length of ODIs and lack of understanding of test cricket will start adopting the game. The game will attract a higher number of viewers than ever before making the ICC and cricket boards even richer.

    The ICC has come out and said that it will ensure that T20 does not replace ODI cricket by restricting all test playing countries to 7 T20 internationals in a year. I think this is a great move as all 3 forms of cricket should be able to coexist with their own set of viewers. As someone (not sure who but I think it was Sambit Bal from Cricinfo) the other day gave an analogy that while T20 is like your fast food burgers and pizza; ODIs is your daily intake of bread, butter, meat, and water; whereas test cricket is the fine dining. How true, as all of us love our fast food but also enjoy the fine dining once in a while. What the ICC will do by restricting international T20s is that it will encourage viewers to watch more of the premier leagues and champions leagues giving domestic and club cricket a major boost. At the same time it will keep the viewers interest in the T20 world cup, to be held every 2 years, alive and kicking.

    I am a firm believer of the opinion that there is no such thing as "too much cricket", and with the next T20 world cup planned for 2009 in England, there are going to be 5 world cricket championships in the next 4 years and I am looking forward to that. The champions trophy gets underway in Pakistan in October 2008, then the T20 in England in 2009, then another Champions Trophy in 2010 in the West Indies, then the ODI cricket world cup in 2011 in India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh, and then another T20 world cup in 2011. This way, cricket will have a world championship every year.

    T20 has excited me not only cause it is fulfilling the fantasies of a 12 year old cricket fan, but also cause it is taking the sport to unconquered territories, providing more entertaining cricket, creating champions leagues for cricket clubs, bringing in millionaires like Allen Stanford who are pumping top dollars into the development of the game, has the potential to attract arab-paties and crore-paties from India and Pakistan, generating revenue for the ICC and the cricket boards, and giving us champions that are not Australia. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the Aussies winning, but their dominance resulting in one-sided games led to two boring ODI world cups in 2003 and 2007, which collectively can boast of only a handful of exciting matches among the over 100 that were played.

    Long live the cricket revolution.

  • <3cricket on September 25, 2007, 13:23 GMT

    This 20/20 match has definitely brought about more support for both india and pakistan! being an indian supporter i was of course ecstatic that we won but considering it was only one shot away the pakistani team really do have to be commended for a great fight! misbah-ul-huq really stood out and definitely made the difference for pakistan in the batting and umar gul was really good with the ball .. but i think India as a TEAM were better (no offense) as for both the captains yes they did well in this series so congrats to them! but apart from all the good stuff its gonna be testing to see whether the two teams can play just as well and consistently in ODIs and Test matches. Australia are still the champions there and still look unbeatable in those forms of cricket..but at least now there is rejuvenated hope for the subcontinent!!

  • Osman Ali Khairi on September 25, 2007, 13:20 GMT

    Hi. Im Shahid Afridi. My favourite shot is hitting the very first ball that I face in the air. I also, don't have a brain. People, let go. Hi. Im Younis Khan. My favourite shot is trying to pull off a pull. Hi. Im Kamran Akmal. Im crap. Period. Haw (puts his gloves on his face)

  • JamJar on September 25, 2007, 13:02 GMT

    Dear Brothers and our usual bloggers (A.A Khan, Wasim Saqib and Javed.A.Khan and of course Kamran)

    I’ve got a confession to make, I scrolled down the blog entries for your respective posts for some consolation. Although I may not agree with you at times, you share the same passion for game and country.

    24 hours after the defeat and its still a bitter pill to swallow. The fact that Pakistan has been unable to beat India in World Cup matches (traditional and new) supplements the depression.

    On the face of it, there are many positives to be taken from Pakistan’s performance in the tournament. The bowling effort, the temperament of Misbah and the find of Tanvir have been most welcome given Pakistan’s recent turbulent times.

    But the batting let us down again. In both Pak-India matches, India’s batting scores were comfortably ‘doable’ but we made it difficult for ourselves yet again. The turning point of the match for me YK’s run out of Nazir and his subsequent dismissal. Misbah did well to pull us from the brink but cannot really be criticised for the shot he played given his performance in the match and in previous matches. We needed a greater contribution from the top and middle order, especially Akmal, Hafeez and Afridi.

    Although I have much respect for Afridi and his presence always contributes to the team, I’ve been left disappointed time and time again with his batting at crucial moments of the game. I guess it’s the expectation we have of a super match winning (or saving) cameo from him at crucial times which seldom lives up to expectation. I was also surprised at his lack of emotion when awarded the ‘Man of Tournament’ after the loss. Maybe its his professionalism but given the events of the game and the pain of defeat I would have expected a little more disappointment in his mannerism. Don’t get me wrong guys, I’m all for Afridi in playing 11 without a doubt.

    I also had a feeling that Hafeez’s fumble at the boundary in the dying moments of India’s innings would cost us dear, which later made the difference between winning or losing.

    Lets move onwards and upwards. Pakistan Zindabad.

  • Shahab on September 25, 2007, 12:10 GMT

    Well said, Faraz. I agree with everything you have stated and would also like to add my own thoughts. Why the hell was kamran akmal sent at number 3, as soon as he came in, memories of the '99 world cup ran through my mind. He was not in form and had not had any practice batting in the middle at all, and his dismissal put Pakistan under greater pressure. Younus Khan needs to think more about his position in the team and cannot take it for granted, Afridi, like the Pepsi commercial needs to know that not every ball has to go for a six!!

    Having said all that, I want to say that for once I am proud of my team doing so well and not giving up. The bowlers did extremely well and the batsmen put up a fight for most of the tournament. Malik showed that his a great leader however much needs to be learnt.

    Well done India on a great win, I woudl like to specially congratulate Dhoni on a memorable performance as a captain he has great potential as a leader and needs his board's support on this.

    And to all you arrogant Indian fans, (ofcourse not all of you, most of you are lovely people) have respect, there is no need for this profanity! you were not provoked so you have no excuse! Pakistan was not beaten by a better team on the day, but they undone themselves. Think about it before putting forward your cheapshots!

    Again, Congrats to India and welldone, both these teams deserved to win, but ofcoures there has to be one winner, Welldone.

  • Ravi S on September 25, 2007, 12:08 GMT

    I agree wholeheartedly with Ubaid here. Had India lost, I would have taken the same angle that the "victory for cricket" is total nonsense, and one can only say that mantra if it makes one sleep better at night. India had the match in the bag (or so I thought) at around 100-6, and you would have assumed that a bowler of international caliber would know to not bowl length balls at that point in time (Sreesanth). I mean, Sohail Tanvir just teed off like a golfer. This is what used to be the minus point of Agarkar. Pakistan equally made some mistakes and I PERSONALLY feel that both teams choked at some point of time or the other. I also feel that Ind's win over Aus was 100 times better than this win over Pak, just because we played a much higher quality of cricket. I have to single out Malik for praise (while some people out there lambast him for his inadvertent faux pas). When Yuvraj came out, Malik brought out spin from both ends and I was cursing out loud (because I realized that Malik was playing Yuvraj's weaknesses). I also am excited about RP Singh (Aus, Pak and SAF players found him hard to play) as a prospect and I hope he gets to play tests and ODI's along with Pathan and Zak. I thought he was our version of Umar Gul. While Pakistan has lost this Twenty20 match, their bowling has become scary once again (like Wasim/Waqar/Saqlain era). I can only imagine their potential in longer versions of the game.

  • Sagar on September 25, 2007, 12:07 GMT

    Mukul Kesavan is wrong. I admit that.

    But my friend Faraz, donot try to discriminate India and Pakistan. Why can not we maintain in friendly manner? What is Hindu/ Muslims? Is your B+ve blood group different from me. My bro. NO.

    I am seeing this team of Pakistan and India more friendly than ever before.

  • Usman on September 25, 2007, 11:42 GMT

    Can Pakistan please pick a batting line up and stick with it? Australia opens with Gilchrist and Hayden and Ponting bats at 3. Only an injury leads to a change in the batting order.

    Why must Pakistan change the batting order every single match. And why in a final? Even in the 1992 world cup final - the batting order was a one off - Imran Khan batted at number 3.

    At least Imran batted at 3 as the captain. If the captain is a batsman - he should be the best batsman in the team - and he should bat at number 3. Unless he is hiding behind other players.

    Pakistan doesn't change the opening bowling combination half as much as the opening batting combination.

    Come on. Get yourselves organised. Make some decisions and stick with them. Don't second guess yourself every single match.

  • Manoj on September 25, 2007, 11:42 GMT

    Dear Faraz,

    Pakistan is known as ""famous for, cheapshot arguments etc. etc"" if you see the histry of pakistan players you can see the difference with other players, starting from Miadad to Amir Sohil and many others.

  • Asim on September 25, 2007, 11:37 GMT

    OOh!!!!Poor Misbah..... U hav won al over my heart.....Wat a fighter!!! He has capabilities of Miandad but cod nt finish like the great man!!! As Linkin Park song says" In the end it doesnt even matter, I tried so hard and got soo far".... Come on Pakistan we have golden timez ahead....Inshallah we wil win more..... Congrats to India....

  • Vikram on September 25, 2007, 11:15 GMT

    I think pakistan media and citizens need to give Misbah all the credit for getting them into the final instead of slandering him for one mistake. Besides in the last over of an India Pakistan final there are thousands of things going on in ones mind and i dont think the scoop shot was a stupid shot,it cud hav well gone for a 4 if it was not for a slow pace from Joginder Sharma.Pakistan, though late, have found a gem of a player in him.Besides, in yesterdays final Umar and Misbah played most sensibly, more sensibly than any Indian player but they lacked support from their team-mates. Thanks Pakistan and India for giving us such a great final and making Cricket reach to new fans and nations.

  • Shankar on September 25, 2007, 10:52 GMT

    I think Mr.Sameer Malik is not able to digest the Indian Victory. He talks some nonsense about mysterious cards being turned etc., Mr.Malik, please note that your precious paki team lost its first encounter with India(Bowl out or not, rules or no rules, your guys could not bowl straight at the stumps) so just stop thinking that Paki is the best team and India did not deserve to be winners. And to put history in perspective for you on all encounters in World Cricket on 7 out of 8 occasions now including this final India have triumphed against Pakistan. That is a fact and whether you like it or not it is the truth. Why cant you just enjoy the game and applaud the guys who have played best.. Just shame on blind supporters like you Shankar

  • taimoor khan on September 25, 2007, 10:40 GMT

    salaam to all....first of all it was a greeaaat match congrats to india on their victory n comiserations to pakistan..no prbs it was not in our destiny indians were lucky :-) but THE ALMIGHTY decided who was goin to win.. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

  • Tariq Salman Alvi --Riyadh on September 25, 2007, 10:08 GMT

    All credit to the two teams, who have been rated by Chapell as medicore to reach the semifinal. They have beaten all and given boost to the game of cricket around the World. Short version is much more entertaining, so more tournament of this nature should be introduced. Now it can match the appeal of football and tennis as public want to enjoy without waisting too much time. Big stars were missing but crowed did not miss them as youngster have provided good entertainment. Both teams deserve appreciation for their behavior both on and off the field. Generally it is mentioned that time is money but we say that time is life, so it should not be waisted in watching boring stuff. Those who wanted to adopt this game will now do so as the time is reduced to just three hours with a lot of exercise, passion to win and entertainment to be enjoyed. At the end I must congratulate Indian team for this wonderfull win and to encourage Pakistan team that they have done a good job and winning and loosing is part of the game. we all enjoyed watching this tournament except the indecent cheer girls poor show as the right place for them was not the cricket ground but a night club.

  • Blue Devil on September 25, 2007, 10:07 GMT

    The pakistani team deserves a lot of credit for they way they fought througout the tournament. Umar Gul has emerged as a genuinely quick stike bowler with an uncanny ability to take wickets at will. On the batting front. Misbah has exhibited nerve of steels (despite the less than stellar shot at the very end) and should be included in both the test and one day sides.

    However, I do have some concerns about Shahid Afridi. While his bowling has been superb, his batting has been non-existent. Its amazing to see SA with all his experience refusing to adapt to the particular situation. Rameez Raja once mentioned that he tried offering some batting advice to Afridi but to no avail - apparently Afridi is unwilling to learn, and improve his batting game. The PCB and Geoff Lawson would be well advised to sit down with Afridi and set some clear expectations in terms of his batting role. At the moment, he is simply playing as a bowler.

  • Karim on September 25, 2007, 9:57 GMT

    Misbah misfired when it mattered most. It was bad enough when he failed to score 1 run off 2 balls in the previous match against India but this was inexcusable. What on earth possessed him to play such a high percentage shot with 4 balls still left and 6 to get?! It is apparent his nerves failed him. I used to think that the reason we tended to beat the Indians more often than not (especially in pressure matches) was because we were mentally tougher but that seems to have changed now. Indeed with that one stroke moronic Misbah has erased from Indian memories the one shot which always was in the back of their players' minds(and reminded them of their own fallibility and reinforced our self-belief)when playing Pakistan: the famous last-ball 6 by Javed Miandad 20 years ago. Unfortunately, the 2 games against India have shown that the balannce in the mental toughness stakes has swung in their favour. And that does not augur well for Pakistan cricket at all.

  • Pakistan Zindabad on September 25, 2007, 9:52 GMT

    I completely agree with whatever Faraz (The first Faraz on all of Kamran's blogs) has said about the post match "comment" made by Shoaib Malik. He just wanted to thank all the PAKISTANI supporters, and by mistake he called them MUSLIMS only. he was struggling with his english. there is no point of blowing it out of proportion like Kesavan did.

    India played good cricket, but Pakistanis really fought back. Misbah saved Pakistan from a humiliating defeat. Younis Khan helped India in winning the match, he contributed big time to their success by running out Imran Nazir and doing nothing with the bat.

    Umar Gul or Misbah ul haq deserved the man of the tournament trophy instead of Afridi. Misbah is a gem, we found pretty late. Hats off to him and other Pakistani players (excpeet for Younis and Kamran Akmal - the latter did nothing in the tournament except for screaming on top of his lungs from behind the wicket)

    India played really well...there batting was superb, but we gave them a tough time and made this final a real FINAL (CLASH OF THE BEST), it wasnt one-sided at all. THanks to both the teams, we have fallen in love with cricket all over again.

    I am so delighted that at least Pakistan came back and i am praying hard that this tournament must prove to be a new start to the cricketing era.

    All Pakistani supportes must welcome their team with garlands - of roses this time! They have made us proud.

  • Usman on September 25, 2007, 9:32 GMT

    Without seeming to vent out my frustration, I would like to say that the first few Pakistani batsmen severely disappointed yet again. Do you recall the days of Inzamam? And Mohammad Yousuf? When all these idiots in the beginning would throw their wickets away and it would be upto Inzi and Moyo to sort everything out? I thought that era would be gone... that with the spirit of youth and a great captain, they will strive to do better... but no...

    Again it was down to the Captain and the new guy... to rescue them. All credit to Shoaib and Misbah who played some rock hard innings which no doubt saw us through to the final.

    And congrats to India too... for providing us with such an amazing display of exhilarating adrenaline. Watching Yuvraj bat was a complete delight and I saw him as the only real batting threat.

    Anyways, back to my point... The first few batsmen need to question themselves... question their tactics... if I disappointed myself or my team with the way they have, I wouldn't be able to live with myself... and they are representing the country so their responsibility is even greater.

    I know you can easily provide advice on how to improve and such... sitting in the stands.. and it's much tougher out there but still... these guys need to improve... or make way for someone else who can!

    Congratulations to the whole Indian team... the Pakistani middle and lower order... and the fantastic bowling that we saw throughout the tournament...

    As for the openers and Younis Khan... I do not even feel the slightest urge to commend you, since your solid performance is needed everytime, and yet amazingly, you play like a pile of amateurs every single time. I know it's easy to put the blame... but this is thoughtful observation.

    The dancers were hot btw... heh

  • Ash Zed - Saudi Arabia on September 25, 2007, 9:32 GMT

    Of course India controlled their nerves better than Pakistan and won the cup. For Pakistan, it was bad shot selection by Younis and Afridi that cost the match. I don’t know for how long Pakistan will continue to lose matches against India in any major tournament.

    But the most astonishing moment in the match was Shoaib's statement where he thanked Muslims all over the world? Why does he think all Muslim will pray for him? Why to drag religion yet again? This is extremely disgusting and I firmly believe he should be penalized for such clumsy statements.

  • Fuad Bangash on September 25, 2007, 9:32 GMT

    The best thing thing that came out of this tournament is that Pakistan is back on top of International Cricket. Now they have to consolidate this position and over next five years be consistently at top and ultimately number one.

    One word of caution though is to get rid of all the dirty politics (a tall order!). Dont discrimanate against players like Muhammad Yousaf, Inzi. Stop favouring hopeless players like Butt, Rao Ifitikhar.

    So bottom line, clean up your act and then the sky is the limit. Pakistan Zindabad!

  • dani on September 25, 2007, 9:29 GMT

    man how cud we lose in the final especially aftr the game was so perfectly set out fr us well its alwayz the problem with pakistan: wen th bowling works the batting sucks and wen the batting works the bowling sucks pakistan really hav to take something positve frm this series such as some young players. They should think about younis's future in the team i was really dissapointed when we got so close but the game ended with a catch to who else but SHREESHANTH i hate that guy and the manish guy should realise that malik is an uneducated kid who has now jus started to speak english frequently he obviuosly meant thanks to all those who prayed for us! but as usual u guys like making arguments out of nothing don't give me more reasons to hate india!!!

  • Arif on September 25, 2007, 9:25 GMT

    Congratulations to India!! Pakistan should not be disheartened because they lost a very tight game. Infact India did not win the game, Pakistan lost it. BTW, I eagerly wait for Javed Khan's (Canada) comments every time Kamran Abbasi's column is posted. This time I feel he is very upset to post his comments. Javed Bhai, take it easy!!

  • Daud Malik on September 25, 2007, 9:25 GMT

    When you are chasing a small target, sending players like Afridi early, if they click, gives you the advantage to cover fall two or three wickets. Pakistan missed the trick first by sending Kamran Akmal and then by not sending Afridi. The good thing now is that fighting spirit is back in Pakistani team, though tough series lie ahead. This performance should give Pakistani players confidence in themselves and aggression, both missing in them in the last 12 months.

  • Nirbhay Singh on September 25, 2007, 9:23 GMT

    FOR CRICKET LOVERS ONLY !

    Inorder to analyse the final I would like to go back to the Pak- Aussie match: of special mention was the way Malik & Haq managed the middle overs - as a lover of the game I will not forget the pick up straight shot that Misbah hit for a glorious straight six in the 'v' off one of the leading Aussie bowlers in the ending overs which then enabled Pakistan to stroll to victory.

    It was a pleasure to read most of the comments here however my point is that when we purport to analyse the game we should do it with knowledge and authority: lot of people are berating Akmal and asking him to be changed, whereas any lover of the game knows what he is capable of. In this particular instance people including the great Miandad fail to seem to notice that he just got a virtually unplayable ball! It's as simple as that.If the 2 'W's, Imran Khan, Akhtar can bowl those deliveries why can't an R.P? Okay he could have defended etc but even batsmen like Tendulkar have succumbed more than once to such deliveries (Bangalore - Akhtar come to mind?)

    Secondly what people seem to fail to realise is that the pitch started playing up more so in the second innings and Shastri has commented on this. This affected the game of perhaps Younis and most certainly Shaoib Mallik.If you see his wicket it's clear that the ball kept low and added to this was the clever way Pathan realised and used this to telling effect. What was perhaps needed at that time was for Shoaib and Misbah to continue to rotate the strike and if they kept close to the asking rate then like they did against Australia (similair total) they well might have made it quite easily.

    I do not think the turning point was the run out of Nazir - it was the lack of taking singles - the lack of knuckling down and refusing to lose that turned the match.If you folks remember the W.C. that Pakistan won , in the semis they were in deep trouble till the Great Miandad arrived at the crease, he then proceeded to to do just that - roll up his sleeves and with grit, tenacity and great mental strength he repaired the damage and then nurtured another great bat - Inzy to flourish and take the match away from the opposition. The lack of THAT in this particular match by Younis or Mallik or any of the other senior batsmen is what can be called the turning point of the match. Yes I know that this is T 20 but if Pakistan had wickets and been within distance of the asking rate then the pressure would have been back on the bowlers and mistakes may well have been commited by the opposition resulting in good and high scoring shots. Like a senior cricketer mentioned the team who handles the pressure better will win and that's basically what happened - otherwise with that total Pakistan could have also won the game.Anyways Pakistan has done extremely well under the new Captain and I am sure the team will learn from this experience and be the better for it.

    Ultimately like everbody says CRICKET IS THE WINNER! and it is summed up best by Khurram Mir Sahab.

    Lastly on the 'comment' by Mallik : I have been watching Shoaib Mallik for a very long time and the first thought that comes to mind is that he is a very likable guy. The fact that he praised the oppositiion shows what a true sportsman he is.Ofcourse his communication in English may not be the best but this is an appeal not to take it in the wrong sense - my gut feel tells me that as some erudite people have pointed out, it is the holy month of Ramzan and in that context he was thanking all the people of the faith - that's all. In similair vein lot's of news channel in India are terming this win as Diwali has come early ! So ? Why take all this in the wrong sense.

    Mukul Kesavan's idiotic statement shouldn't be taken as a reflection of the sentiments across the border and the proof of this is in the majority of the comments on this blog which are healthy and in true and good spirit by people from both countries.

    As far as Mukul is concerned it takes him micro milli seconds to go from the sublime to the ridiculous , I havent yet read this particular article but can understand exactly the anguish it has caused within some.However an appeal to Mr.Talal: friend and brother, idiots like Kesevan are plenty on both sides of the border but for every idiot like him there are tens of thousands of great great people on both sides.This beautiful game has brought the countries together and we should do everything in our power to make sure this bud becomes a beautiful and healthy flower!

    All Best Wishes,

    Nirbhay Singh.

  • Muhammad Shafiq on September 25, 2007, 9:17 GMT

    I also felt (feeling) realy sad at not winning it after coming so mighty close. My conclusion is " India won coz there were 1.1 Billion (1100 Million)indians were praying for Indian success, comparative to maximum 200 Millions Pakistanis (0.2 Billions). So 900 Million less heart broke in the world.otherwise there might have been a lot more human loss.

    believe me it consoled me well------!

    What malik said, was a thank to all supporting & praying for team, please all cricket fans grow up & don't make it an issue, even if it was a slip of tongue. Congrats India & congrats to Pakistan for brilliant show. It i sa lesson for out batsman for poor shot selection aswell, especially Younis, Afridi & Misbah, and wrong run selecting with injured nazir.

    Oh poor Misbah, you beauty, Kiya krty ho yaar na mrny dety ho na jeeny dety ho (Please let us live or die, not keep us guessing)----- we love you & Pak team. A die hard cricket fan since i was 5 years old, now i am 27 :)

  • abhishek, bangalore on September 25, 2007, 9:13 GMT

    some ppl jus have this habit of not agreeing to anything..they just dun understand the pressure players go thru in such crunch games..They will go all gaga when yunious khan will win them a match and will destroy him if he lets a maiden over in between. If Shahid Afridi plays some breathtaking shots ..they will say he was unfazed by the situation and took the game away from opposition at a time when team was in a spot of bother...but if he fails doing that will say...he sud be banned and what not.

    This is for all those ppl, cussing and abusing the players who have won you many matches in past....GROW UP. Noone wants to loose a match and definitely not a final and definitely not against your arch rivals. Stop commenting baselessly and try to look at positives rather than negatives...thats what Indian team is doing. Its easy to point out mistakes after something goes wrong and applaud for the same if it goes right.

    Again for ppl who think the players opting out or not playing T20 as old baggage...think again sensibly. Test and One Dayers are a totally different ball game. Do you think these players can even withstand 5 days of play. It needs more maturity rather than raw power. It needs more patience and technique than mere talent or aggressiveness. Do you guys honestly believe we have it in us to defeat Australians in longer versions of the game without the services of our senior players...

    Being excited is one thing and commenting based on it is other.

    Again for comments made post match by Shoaib , i personally feel that it was just a case of mistakenly choosing a wrong word at a wrong place. Having said that I also feel that Shoaib, if is not comfortable in English, cud have very well done with Hindi....I just dun undersatnd the need to speak in English everytime in that post match session. 'Cos saying what he said at that forum, wearing the country T-shirt, was totally uncalled for, even though unintentional.

    Long live India team and Pak team too. Thanks for giving us a winner other than Australia. Kudos to ur effort and entertainment. Looking forward to similar entertainment from u.

    Well played !! and congrats from heart to Indian team on pulling this through

  • Leslie on September 25, 2007, 9:05 GMT

    Dear Faraz, Please dont take it upon yourself to pass judgement on India. It was your captain who made a stupid statement; not anyone else and poor language skills are not an excuse. Anyway, try to understand what the problem is to us. As a Christian and a VERY proud Indian, I can assure you that we dont discriminate over religion. I would hate to be accused of praying for a "Christian " cricketing country , but am confident that it will never happen in my country. So please examine your own feelings and decide whether Malik was right or not? I hope to see your response to this. PS Well played Pakistan. Its just a game.

  • Gaurav on September 25, 2007, 9:02 GMT

    Faraza And Talal

    Both of you conveniently ignored the praises heaped on Shoaib by the same Mukul Kesavan in the same article. Indeed, Pakistani players have problems with English as a language of communication and its understandable that Shoaib might have fumbled. But at the same time it may also give us non-muslims a scare - since it can be presumed that such slips of tongue provide a peek into the deep-rooted psyche as well. Mukul, in my opinion, wasn't trying to berate Shoaib but was genuinely hurt and outraged by his post-match comments. Why, in the moment of defeat, Shoiab, even inadvertantly, choose to range Hindus against Muslims ? You won't understand how precarious it can get in India where the majority religion is fighting hard to not to believe that the Muslim compatriots have divided loyalties, especially in the current atmosphere of international strife related to religion. As for your comment that Indians are famous for making cheap arguments, then I must ask you to visit Cricbuzz chatroom and see for yourself how courteous some of yourself Pakistani friends are. If you want to rake this up citing wrong examples, then even we would have a repository of accusations ready for you.

    But let me tell you that Pakistan played valiantly and in the end there were no real losers. It would have been a notional victory even if Pakistan had won as it is for India, as fans from both the sides know deep inside how close the match was. Its matter of chance that this time, The Almighty chose to let the Indians celebrate.

    Thanks Gaurav

  • Hashim on September 25, 2007, 9:00 GMT

    Man we lost pakistan lost :( i am so sad. but i have to give credit to india they played well. pakistan could have won they were just 1 six away they needed 6 from 3 why did misbah do that. any way i am still proud of what pakistan has done and i wish them all the best for their upcoming mathces

  • malik on September 25, 2007, 8:56 GMT

    why Afridi couldn't played a sensible cricket???? A great question? ??? but indeed no answers. Do any body have??????

  • Sudhir G on September 25, 2007, 8:39 GMT

    Hello.. I would like to congratulate the Indian and Pakistan teams for being part of one of the greatest 20:20 games the world has seen.I think the players from Pakistan can walk with their heads held high,because it was no disgraceful loss.After WC 2007[50 Overs],Both India and Pakistan deserved being finalists here..Cricket won in the end...

  • Irfan Jaffry on September 25, 2007, 8:32 GMT

    As everybody said, game of cricket has won. Congrats to India and a tap of encouragement for Pakistan. Both the captains were really superb, calm and focused. Especially as this was their first duty in this role. In the end one has to loose. Dhoni rightly said in the post match conference that "whatever we scored, they have to get them'. This shows the clear game plan on India's part. Pakistan lost the wickets and in the end there was no one to give company to Misbah. This was a good example of game plan execution and the effect of pressure. As Imran Khan says, if you make your game plan with the fear of it being failed, it is bound for failure. I think in this particular case, India made the strategy and never doubted that it will fail. On the other hand Pakistan instead of looking confident of success, looked afraid of a failure.

    Well done both teams. It could have went either way which shows there was nothing between the teams.

  • Khalid Riaz on September 25, 2007, 8:32 GMT

    Being a pakistani fan i ahve to say i am gutted at losing but you have to give respect to India for holding their nerve and bowling so well considering the score they were defending was probably 20 odd runs shy of where they would have hoped to be. Hafeez, Akmal (at one down....crazy move!!!!), younis and afridi should shoulder the blame for this defeat however the one thing that bugged me more than anything about this defeat was twice in this tournament Misbah got us to within a whisker of victory only to bottle it. That said he deserves all the plaudits he is given. On another point Shoaib Malik should realise not all Muslims are Pakistani fans (take Shah Rukh Khan for example!!!) so he should not have mentioned muslims as Pakistan vs India is about Pakistan and India not Hindus and Muslims. Finally we should praise the efforts of the Indian team as they probably played the more exciting cricket throughout the tournament and were not favourties at the start. Respect to Shoaib Malik for making the team work as a unit without some of the old heads. Sohail Tanvir has to be the find of the tournament. Umar Gul has grown as a bowler and Misbah ul Haq looks like he might just replace the other ul Haq.

    I suppose there is only one thing left to say

    BRING ON INDIA IN NOVEMBER!!!!!

  • nabeel on September 25, 2007, 8:10 GMT

    Mike getting trying a reverse sweep in the final of 1987 world cup gave the game to Australia. Lance Klusner did it in 1999 semi final when he ran without thinking. There maybe other examples... Misbah has made it very hard for me to be upset with him because, if it was not for him, we would not have come close to 157 anyway.

    So this is one love in the PCB vs. public game. PCB has mde the initial score

    Dr. Naseem must be feeling pleased for the turnaround. Little does he know that the team lost becase he was there to jinx them.

    Nabeel

  • abd on September 25, 2007, 8:05 GMT

    I dont know why everyone is taking such a big note of Malik saying he would like to thank "Muslims" all around the world. It's meant for those Muslims who were supporting Pak team. Before that he also apologized to all the Pakistanis where ever in the world for losing :((He should not have apologized to anyone because i think the performance from Pak team was superb and looks to have a bright future.

  • Pritam Shetty on September 25, 2007, 7:52 GMT

    I thought Afridi was not taking the match seriously even before it began. If you noticed while the Paki. National Anthem was being played he was laughing. Hafeez did not seem to aware he is playing a final. He was joking and smiling even when he got smashed all over the ground. Shoaib Malik, less said the better.He is more interested in looking like a 'cool dude'. Pak. reached the finals only because of Tanvir, Gul, Imran Nazir, Asif and a few others. Misbah did all he could single handedly. If he had not scored those 45 runs the match would have been over long ago.

    Gul and Tanvir were simply awesome. Gul from some angles looks like Wasim Akram. But thats just my opinion.

    By the way whats wrong if Malik thanks paki. muslims? Who else will he thank?

  • Arsh on September 25, 2007, 7:51 GMT

    That was not our day. Defeat is acceptable. Only person blameable is Younis Khan, why he is always involve in a run out of set batsmen in a crucial matches and then he also gets out cheaply. There are many examples of the same in the past.

  • Amer Akhtar on September 25, 2007, 7:49 GMT

    Well played both the teams. They have brought Asia back in contention on the world cricket scene. Although Afridi disappointed with the bat, he excelled with the ball. Misbah was a revelation although late in his career. Is PCB to blame for this ? There are other talented players like Hasan Raza and Asim Kamal who should be given opportunities before it is too late.

  • Nayanta Pandita on September 25, 2007, 7:38 GMT

    Yes, a most enthralling and enjoyable encounter - especailly since the arrogant Aussies were not involved - marred by the following lapses at the conclusion: - Gautham Ghambir should have been the man of the match - if not for his 75, Pathan would not have had a target to bowl at.

    -Afridi - man of the series - Why? For What? -When there are two legitimate contenders in the names of Misbah and Yuvraj!!!

    - Finally the shocking comment of Malik - I am glad that a neutral captain won the world cup - after all - why should we support a captain that only appreciates the Muslims!

  • Abdullah on September 25, 2007, 7:32 GMT

    Congratulations to both Indian and Pakistani teams for giving the world of cricket an exciting and nail-biting final contest in a world-cup tournament. To me, both are winners; one takes the cup by his efforts and extra luck and other takes the applause for his sincere efforts. From all angles it was a piece of excellent cricket match that we fans all over the world enjoyed. Kudos to members of both the teams and their officials. These youngsters have the stuff to raise further in their successes and fame. As to the post-match speech by Shoaib Malik, his thanks to Muslims all over the world has left bad taste to the ending of a great cricket final match. It is uncalled for. He should know that Non-Muslims, not only in Pakistan but also from other parts of the world, support them as a mark of appreciation for their talent. We hope, he didn't mean what he said and in future he exercises care and caution before he utters himself. Good luck to both the teams in their upcoming series in India and elsewhere and pray that they entertain us again with their good cricket.

  • Mirza on September 25, 2007, 7:32 GMT

    As for Malik's comments, stop being so paranoid and P.C. about everything. He said what he said because it is Ramadan and muslims quite simply pray for other muslims in general, it was not some kind of "specific scheme against non-muslims". Sure we have non-muslims in the squad. Sure India has muslims in their squad. So what? Some people keep saying religion has "no place in sport", but in my opinion whatever inspires a man to perform has a place in sport, whether it's religious devotion, a picture or icon worn around the neck, a sign of the cross before coming off the subs bench, a prayer, a memory of a loved one, or anything else. While it is possible that some may have misinterpreted his comments as being something sinister, I am more concerned by some of the OBVIOUS paranoia being spread on this page. Grow up and GET OVER THE RELIGION-PHOBIA. Other than that, well played India and credit to those among your true fans who have posted here for supporting India without resorting to jumping on an inexperienced and straightforward public speaker (Malik).

  • muslim on September 25, 2007, 7:23 GMT

    pak is a country you loose to a country india.....where does it come religion ? this is not a match betwewen muslimms and hindus ,chriostians ,jewish.,....budhists

  • Dave on September 25, 2007, 7:21 GMT

    Firstof all Congratulations to India for playing a superb final and winning it. They showed tremendous team spirit throughout the tournament and came out trumps in all situations. Secondly, a lot of cricket fans have started questioning the 50 over format and some are of the view that scrapping the 50 over format would be a great idea. However, i would not agree on scrapping the 50 over format, without structuring the T20 format in a more meaningful way. If one looks objectively, the first World Cup of cricket was held in 1975 after only 18 ODIs had been played and the final of 1975 was a close affair (WI beating aus by 18 runs) and it was that final which heralded the era of ODI cricket. However, overkill in the last 6-7 years has resulted in the ODIs becoming one-sided as teams often end up playing meaningless series and the players often look jaded. Having said that T20 has also started of in the same vein as the ODIs - with the WC played after only 18 T20's and the final being an exciting affair (Ind bt Pak by 5 runs), which is heralding the T20 era. However, playing too much of international T20 matches may result in this format going the same way as the 50 over format. To preserve T20 and keep it exciting, i think the effort by the BCCI - The IPL and the proposed champions league with the franchisee model is the right way to go. This will ensure that the international T20 games are played at the big stage and are more meaningful. While at the same time the club competition will have the franchisee model similar to the NBA, MLB, Club Football, which would help the administrators in identifying new talent, and the fans could see cricketing superstar playing for their team...we could have a situation where MS Dhoni may end up playing for NSW and Ricky Ponting ends up playing for an Indian side. If the administrators get the T20 model right, then only we should say good bye to the longer limited over format...or else we may end up with T20 going the same way as ODIs...also now that India has won the T20 WC and Australia the 2007 ICC WC...cricket looks to be the only team sport which does not have one World Champion...so i guess the upcoming India - Australia series could well be the title unification series to crown the undisputed world champion of cricket :)(reminds me of Boxing )

  • cricketlover on September 25, 2007, 7:20 GMT

    very right comments from all over the world on the Cricket Next.we pak & Ind need some special end of this wct20. and it happend. i am sure that cricket fans are very happy to see pakistani team's game as well india. i commented right after the worldcup that Misbah should replace Inzi as a captain. but my friends were laghing on me but today they said u are right Mr. and one thing i was always think about Afridi that he captain should try him to batting at No.6 when Pakistan is Battaing 1st and when pakistan batting 2nd for chasing Afridi should bat at No.2. we can see his History that he always play good stroke at the top of the order when we are chasing a target. why we are wasting his talent. he cant bat at 6 or 7 in under 16 crore peoples pressure.. i remember Afridi's last 100 was in Kanpur when pakistan was chasing 250 at an uneven wicket but he played his best inning angainst the indians. Please Pass this message to Coach and Captain that try for once only for me i we will see he give his 100%. i am sure..

  • Khurram on September 25, 2007, 7:18 GMT

    First of all I would like to congratulate India on winning the world cup. Well played guys!!!

    My heart goes for Pakistan adn specially Misbah...Mate you showed real guts man..excellent captaincy from Shoab Malik..Pakistan has found a great captain in Shoaib and they should stick with him

    As for Manish, I think people like him are a thorn in Pakistan and India' relationship...these are the people who spread haterd... what does he mean by stating "dont give me anymore reason to hate Pakistan"????

    feel like smashing ur head..u watch ur mouth when u say such things because it may have serious repurcussions on the peole from both sides of the border.

    Congrats again to India. Pakistan you played very well, please keep it up!!!!

  • andy on September 25, 2007, 7:14 GMT

    ONE OF THE BEST FINALS EVER PLAYED....Well played INDIA but PAKISTAN gave a stunning fight back..One must really feel for Misbah to come close twice against the same team and not finishing it..But anyways he has a bright future ahead of him.. Well played to both the teams but Congrats INDIA

  • BR on September 25, 2007, 7:09 GMT

    Faraz, I also thought the attitude and comments of Manish are derived from a person of low IQ , but your comments are not much better.

    But I wont be lowering myself to your level to say 'Half of Pakistanis have your kind of attitude or backward mentality, as this would not be true'

    Anyway, back to the cricket , well done to both teams for great cricket played throughout the tournament. Well done to all Pakistan (Sporting comments, even having lost so narrowly) and Indian fans for some well written post on this blog.

  • srivathsan on September 25, 2007, 7:07 GMT

    VERY WLL SAID KAMRAN,I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER.YES THE YOUTH,THE GAME OF CRICKET HAS WON & LIFTED THE SUBCONTINENT TO A HIGHER PLANE.As I said in the earlier blog ,who ever wins the trophy would be with one of the brothers.What is important is that both Dhoni & Shoaib have proved many critics wrong & made them to change their opinion about India & Pakistan.It is a huge contribution.Both the teams held the Bulls by Horns & tamed it.What more can you ask for ?Abcense of senior meant that new talents not only blossomed but also exhibited fearless ,gritty & self belief attitude which was lacking both in india & Pak.MISBAH has been a revealation.His cool & uncomplicated batting won him many laurels.Perhaps now he has more admirers in india than pakistan including me.He almost carried the team to victory.IT IS A PITY THAT HE HAS NOT PLAYED FOR PAKISTAN ALL THESE YEARS .At least now ,i feel that he would be permanent member in the one day side at least.Both the team exhibited excellent temparment,talent & attitude & in my opinion both deserved the cup.WELL PLAYED & THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME HAS TRIUMPHED WHICH IS GOOD FOR THE SUBCONTINENT.

  • San Nagam on September 25, 2007, 7:05 GMT

    My first coments appreciating to Kamran is already posted earlier in this blog.

    Dear Faraz & Talal..I know how you feel about Mukul's issues on Malik's comments. Before we make this issue a huge drama read the response to his article under coments (most likely to be from Indians..)including mine. Most people have reacted strongly on the timing of his critisism on malik. So all are not as immature as Mukul as Faraz thinks.. As far as Malik's coments on a TV watched by billions all over the world everyone can draw their own conclusions.. For me It's the triumph for cricketing culture in Sub Continent, perhaps needs to get bit more matured than likes of Kamran & myself hoped & wished for..

  • Hemant on September 25, 2007, 7:01 GMT

    How will it sound if pre match Dhoni says ' I think that India will win because this is the holy month of Ganesh Festival' or post match says that 'i thank all Hindus in the world ' Its just not done Mr. Shoaib Malik. Please dont drag religion into Cricket.

  • Mohammed Munir - Sharjah, UAE. on September 25, 2007, 6:58 GMT

    Where is Javed A. Khan of Canada, we are waiting for his analysis and comments.

    Javed Bhai ......... please say something.

  • Supporter on September 25, 2007, 6:58 GMT

    The Man of the Match is undoubtedly Misbah. Pakistan may have lost the match, but it was Misbah who made it a match.

    I think Shoaib Malik should be taught a few lessons in diplomacy. He started of by thanking the Muslims of the world!!! Man shouldn't any love r of cricket support Pakistan? Malik may be a good captain but he knows how to put his foot in the mouth! It is comments by such players that give a jingoistic feeling in a Game.

  • WASI on September 25, 2007, 6:52 GMT

    The game was undoubtedly a great game however as T20 is now the "new face of cricket" it has certain lessons for the cricketing world to learn. It raises certain questions: First, even though we claim that cricket was the winner and the both Mssrs. Dhoni and Malik are congratulated for it, we must ask ourselves if the American capitalist tradition of the runner up being the first loser a tradition worth setting. Its all good and well to claim that both teams were winners and cricket won in the end. However who are we really trying to decieve? The fact that the winner took all the prize money for the final with the runners up left with no prize money is a telling proof of this argument that the runners up, Pakistan was nothing but the first looser. The fact that the Stanford cricket 20/20 invited India and then as replacement chose Austrailia if India were to turn the invitation down is another proof of comercialization. Maybe I am just being sentmental and maybe thats how everything works in the real world. However one must admit, that's not cricket. At least not the cricket of old that we were used to. So I propose something more radical: Cricket is a professional sport now, so lets laissaez faire. Lets take out the unecessary constraints that ICC and the local boards are trying to place on cricket which is a commercial sport now, a very different animal from the cricket we knew. If market is to rule and cricket is commercial with our national heroes not mere cricketers or mere national heroes, they are men at work! Let them work in a free market. Lets not try to monopolize this business unfairly. Let the ICL come and let Mr. Stanford offer the $5 million prize to the one off winner or offer the 20/20 for $20 million to four teams only one of which actually made it to the final. Let the market rule. Let Inzimam decide whether he wants to play for Pakistan in ODIs or just in Test cricket for Pakistan and for the ICL for the rest of the time. They have to earn a living and with the winner taking all they must look out for number one. Whats the harm in that? Secondly since cricket has been commercialized the boards of cricket are obsolete. They are now trying to run as a corporate enterprize. Well corporate enterprises they surely are however that also takes away their monopoly over the rules on who represents "their country". For nnow or ever before have they represented their countries. It has always been the players that represented their respective countries and so must it remain. The boards, especially BCCI and PCB, and ICC have been trying to maintain their posture as the sole representatives and governing bodies of the sport in their respective countries and world wide. They must realize that free market and a commercialized sport do not have room for such monopoloies. Let the market rule, and let come what may!

  • Estelle on September 25, 2007, 6:47 GMT

    G'day all. When this 20/20 thing got underway here, (South Africa) I thought: "Oh what a circus". I am still to be proven wrong.

    I would like to congratulate both Pakistan and India though, for reaching any final. And getting to the final of any competition is nothing to be sneezed at. Just ask South Africa and New Zealand...Anyhow, I am looking forward to the Pakistan / SA tour coming up, as I am feeling starved of "real cricket".

    One more thing...I did NOT think Malik was a good choice for Pakistan captain. I am happy that I was proven wrong. I am still not convinced about Ms Dhoni though...This coming series against the Aussies will be the real baptism of fire I think.

  • raj_milind on September 25, 2007, 6:46 GMT

    Choker Misbah is bieng called a valiant hero ????? What a joke? He choked twice in the end ?A paltry score could not be chased by the useless batting lineup.Imagine if either dhoni,uttapa or Yuvraj had fired and made a score.Then it would not even have been close. The so called cornered tigers did not get rain here to take them to victory as in 1992 cup.The cornered tigers stayed where they belong.IN THE CORNER. Pakistanis gloating over their bowling fail to notice only 5 Indian wickets were gone.Still they think their bowling was great where as Indian bowlers called medicore consistently by pakistani fans demolished them with accurate smart bowling.Fact is India played smartly adapting to the pitch and situation while batting where as Nazir Afridi displayed their understanding of the game.Boom Boom Afridi fires in one match in 20 matches.Did ICC check misbah for drugs BTW. :)

  • Surya on September 25, 2007, 6:45 GMT

    Great game of cricket! But Afridi being chosen as "Man of the Series' ahead of Misbah, Hayden, Gul, Yuvraj, Vettori (not in any particular order)was a big surprise & dampener. For such big tournaments, the choice should not be an opinionated but objective. Whatever happened to the points system they used to have? Though it may need some tweaking to suit the Twenty20 format, that's the way to go!

  • imran jalil on September 25, 2007, 6:41 GMT

    Hi all

    if you ask i would say pakistan reached finalz becoz of 2 players consistent performance 1 misbah 2 gul it was not at all team performance since 1995 till 2007 we are still searching how to defeat india in WC guys God gave us so many chances but we are still losers.As soon as india qualified for the final i knew that we will going to lose.we are chokers against india same like south africa and new zealand in big games.Body language was negative lack of commitment poor balling and fielding in end overs. Now again we have to wait till 2009 to paly against india i hope we will win.we have to break this curse its hurting us badly. hats off to misbah and gul you have protected us from great humiliation

  • prasad on September 25, 2007, 6:40 GMT

    Well done India. Tough luck Pakistan. Glad that someone else other than Australia won the match and cricket got a revival from abysmal lows. As a die-hard Indian fan, I will cherish this win for long time. Misbah was amazing. Pakistan found a great player. I guess poor shot in the end costed pakistan very dearly. What's up with Shoaib Malik's comments? Hope it is a slip of tongue. If not, guys not so good mixing sports with religeon.

  • Amanzeb Khan on September 25, 2007, 6:30 GMT

    I believe the advantage of batting first in such a pressure game was the biggest factor for India. Pakistan should not have let the game drift after the first 6 overs. In a period of 5 overs our required rate climbed from 7.5 to 9. I think we lost it there. However, hats off to Misbah. It was an innings which deserved a victory. And all one can say is that it was just not destined to be.

  • irfan bhat on September 25, 2007, 6:30 GMT

    I am trying to console myself by saying that Pak put up a good fight but deep inside there is a feeling that pinches which i am sure all pak fans will be feeling.Its all over now but we just want to know the answer of one simple question.How can a player ,who struggles in 50 over format and is not even suited for it, can be selected for 20-20.No prizes for guessing,younis khan it is.If you Analyse both the losses to india i am sure you will find a major common cause in both these defeats and that is Mr younis khan.In the league game against india he ran out Akmal who surpisingly was looking good ,played a maiden over from under pressure come back boy pathan and then got out on the last ball. Yesterday,as has been the case throughout the tournament,he stuggled,missed numerous opportunities to score on freebies from joginder sharma n co.The worst among all his mistakes was his call for a quick single when he was knowing that imran nazir is struggling for fitness. Come on pak selectors and board you can't keep running away with blunders.You are answerable to people.Start putting some sense and give us the best 11 on the field.

  • Kasi,Bangalore India on September 25, 2007, 6:28 GMT

    I still couldnt understand why this much delay to bring the player of misbah's calibre to the international stage. Take my words he will be the answer to australias hussey/bevan. And, Faraz dont listen to Mukul. He is nothing but a nonsense.

  • Saima Khan on September 25, 2007, 6:23 GMT

    PCB should remove Salman Butt, Mohd Hafeez, Kamran Akmal & Yasir Arfat. They have no slot in the current team. Give the permenant chance to Faisal Iqbal, Fawad Alam, Khalid Latif, Khurrum Manzoor and Sarfraz Ahmed. They all are performing well in domestic cricket.

    We should have seperate team for Twenty20, One day and Test Cricket.

    Saima Khan Islamabad

  • Ramesh narayan on September 25, 2007, 6:21 GMT

    It is a pity that someone had to lose this game. In the end,India were marginally the more composed side. Perhaps now the powers that be in Pakistan will have the guts to show the door to Shoaib Akhtar and others like him.Pity about the skippers unthinking comments at the end, though. Just the sort of thing that causes muslims to be unfairly stereotyped around the world.

  • Raj on September 25, 2007, 6:06 GMT

    On a lighter note.... Knock Knock

    Who's there?

    Misbah

    Misbah who?

    Miss by 5 runs only

  • Farhan on September 25, 2007, 6:03 GMT

    Well done Pakistan, we are happy. don't worry if we lost the final but i can see that in Shoaib Malik's captaincy the Pakistan will win lot of cups InshAllah.

  • Rishi on September 25, 2007, 6:02 GMT

    Kamran, Very aptly put. I am an ardent Indian Fan but I agree that there was hardly anything to choose between the teams. Very Well fought match and I think the team that did well in the 40th over of the match won it. I personally feel that Misbah should not have gone for that shot as it is a low percentage shot specially against slower bowlers. Also there still were 4 balls to go and knowing Joginder there was every chance of a couple of wides. But I think it was the nerves and the chanting crowds that played on the poor chaps nerves. It was a bad shot selection that did in a very very valiant effort. Well Played India Pakistan.

  • Mabsoos Ahmad on September 25, 2007, 5:58 GMT

    First of all, being a sportsman and cricket lover I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Team India for their victory and keeping the record straight that they have not lost any match in the World Cup.

    Cricket is a funny game and when it is between India and Pakistan, a thrilling finish is always on the card. It is good to see that this final was without Aus and had they be there, it would have been one side game. So, we will remember this final as the best ever game where the difference between victory and defeat was only ONE BALL.

    We must than Misbah for his brilliance to keep the game alive and sad to him that he was not able to write his name in the golden book. This is where the temperament is tested of a cricket and he failed twice. Let us wish him a good luck for rest of his career.

    Pakistan would have won the match, had the captain and coach did not make a “tactical mistake”. To alter the combination in the batting order with a batsman who is not in form. Akmal was struggling with bat and if they want to send someone, only Afridi deserves for this spot.

    Younis Khan is one of the most experienced cricket in the side, but again where his contribution is needed, he failed. Actually he does not deserve in 20/20 and ODI. It is high time to side him and he can only play in the test. I am tons of example to prove my point but it is for the selectors to dump him rather than going with him in the future.

    Frankly speaking in the Indian inning it was only one catch which cost the catch for Pakistan. Had Hafeez taken this catch, Pakistan would have been winner. He not only dropped the catch but it was SIX.

    It is good for the sub continent that India and Pakistan cricket is going in the right direction. They have a good captains, young legs and the best thing from this tournament has come “the fielding” for which both the teams known “sloppy fielder” and therefore, once again cricket is alive in the sub continent.

  • MJ on September 25, 2007, 5:56 GMT

    An truly amazing finale, replete with nervewracking suspense. I really hope the returning Pakistani players receive the heroes' welcome they so richly deserve. Winning the cup is all very nice, but, truly, is there a supporter of the Indian team who didn't visualize a pyramid of tumultous Pakistani players as they celebrated victory? The outcome of the match lay on a razor's edge: The thought of the ease with which the result might have swung the other way still sends a frisson of excitement up and down my spine.

    Well done, lads!

  • ADNAN KHAN on September 25, 2007, 5:56 GMT

    Great game..india held their nerve to win, but it must be said that Malik, Younus and Afiridi let us down with the bat big time....i mean if they all scored just 20 runs pakistan would have been champions and not india! Ok...now reality check for pakistan going into 3 big series against SA,India and Australia the 20/20 tamashaa is over and i have been watching pakistan cricket for a while now but we dont have any BATSMEN!! sure we got a number of sloggers but without Mohd Yousuf and my hero Inzi we will suffer in test cricket! Apart from Younis Khan who else in the current pakistan team can stand at the crease for 1 whole day in test cricket? Answer no-one(sorry Mohd hafeez as you are a good friend of mine)

  • dreamweaver on September 25, 2007, 5:54 GMT

    Oh Pakistan...oh my India.What a game.what agame.What a change from the 700 pound gorilla that is oz pummelling others into submission.what a phoenix like rise from the debris of the 50 over world cup.

    I am glad India won, but ONLY Pakistan could have fought to the very end.No disgrace in a valiant defeat like this.Pakistan can be proud of this terrific team...and Misbah for me is the man of the series, not afridi And Dhoni,the captain of the tournament,nerveless, brave and ice cool.

    what a game,what a game,what a game

    Indo Pak Cricket is Ashes on steroids and speed and some...nothing else compares.

  • SM on September 25, 2007, 5:47 GMT

    I am an Indian expat living in US. Today the Indian team made me proud. But my prayers were answered when there was an India-Pakistan final. Like most people of the subcontinent I enjoy the healthy rivalry onfield and friendship off it. Pakistani fans may feel Misbah's choice of shot was wrong. Similarly they can feel annoyed about Younis Khan's display. But I want to remind you of that no player plays to defeat his team. On the spur of the moment many decisions are taken which could have negative consequences. But the intent could not have been to lead to the negative consequence. Instead of thinking of the loss, think how far this team has come. Many wrote the Pakis off after the pre-tournament drama with Shoaib Akhtar. But the team has done extremely well. I am proud of the talent on display in the subcontinent (Bangladesh and Sri Lanka included). I hope teams from the subcontinent continue to show the world that they can win tournaments outside of the subcontinent.

  • Mahadevan on September 25, 2007, 5:26 GMT

    Continuing from my previous post, one last point. From now on, the finals of any major tourney must be best of the three like in the triangular series in Australia which is the only way the true winner can be judged.

  • Prashanth Reddy on September 25, 2007, 5:23 GMT

    Mr. Abbassi, you were spot on on your comments. I wanted to make some observation here for both the teams...both good and not so good...some really bad.

    Pakistan Team: 1. Awesome bowling. This bowling unit can easily walk into any form of cricket, and any National Team would be proud to have it. 2. Good stroke players. May be need to work on shot-selection, but amazing stroke makers. 3. Played in good spirit. Played as a unit. 4. Played till the end....never die spirit. 5. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT I LIKED SHOIAB MALIK'S CAPTAINCY (I always liked his batting...always liked his fighting spirit, and also liked his cool attitude which reflected in uniting his team...but) HIS POST MATCH COMMENTS CHANGED MY OPINION ABOUT HIM. IT LEFT A SOUR TASTE IN THE MOUTH. I don't know why religion has to come in sports? Why does he think only Muslims support his team? What about non-muslims in Pakistan?? What abt ppl like Danish Kaneria...how embarrassed should he feel? I was embarrassed by his comments...wonder how Pak cricket followers felt about it. This one comment by Shoaib chaged my complete opinion abt him. Don't say he never meant it. These things come out all of a sudden when that person really means it. But some how I feel Shoaib is clean guy....I just hope he didn't mean it. He should apologize for his comments.

    India: 1. A new crop of youngsters with new found self-belief, who fight till the end, and play fearless cricket 2. Good aggressive but cool headed captain. 3. The batting bench strength is good 4. Play as a unit. 5. BUT NEED GOOD SECOND CHANGE BOWLERS. Like always, need good bunch of fast bowlers, AND IN ADDITION, NOW WE ALSO NEED SOME GOOD SPINNERS. Can't always depend on Bhajji.

  • varun on September 25, 2007, 5:19 GMT

    Really a gr8 game..can't get better than this...Misbah, wow, what kinda player he is..that man seem to have got nerve of steel..cool,calm amd composed...He deserves applause for his efforts where he pulled off single handedly whole team frm despair to the verge of victory...Kudos to u for ur efforts..cheers

  • Mahadevan on September 25, 2007, 5:15 GMT

    I am from India and like any other Indian, I feel happy about India winning the Twenty20 championship.

    But I like to point out the other side of what happened. We must accept that Pakistan was the better team of the two and really deserved the cup than India. Can anyone explain what was the strategy employed by Indian thinktank to get the trophy? No team can sustain winning habit if it could not evolve a game plan. All we could see in what India did was some bits and pieces performances which gelled together at times due to the opposition folly. Pakistan really had some strategy. They restricted every team they played to a reasonable total and they could clearly mark out their match winners in Gul, Afridi, Misbah and Malik. Remember what happened after 1983. Indians had no gameplan and so could not perform well in ODIs for sometime after winning the World cup. Same could not be said of Sri Lanka after their triumph in 1996. They won because of the strategy they had evolved and so became a force in the cricket World. Australians consistently make plans for their success and work out when they find some strategy fails and so they have the winning as a habit. The only mistake Pakistan did was to mess the chase in the final. But this is not the end of he World and they could use the lesson to prepare for the next World cup. I am sure Lawson is clearly aiming on that. Pakistan clearly have a good bench strength and if they can work together on purpose they are in a better position than India to make a team which can counter Australia for the next World cup.

    Again don't criticise the captain's move to bring in Akmal at No: 3. He is cricised because Pak lost. India brought in Yousuf Pathan a debutant. Imran did experiments in finals earlier. In one final match he brought in Sajid Ali, whose previous records were poor. In another match, he promoted Akram Reza. Pakistan won both the matches and so nobody saw anything wrong with what the captain did.

    Good luck for both India and Pakistan for a bright future,

  • Zeeshan on September 25, 2007, 5:14 GMT

    I agree Mr Abbasi - cricket was the real winner and both teams deserve a pat on the back for producing such a scintillating contest. After watching this game I realized how much I loved Pakistan - when you start shedding tears for a sport or for people you dont know and probably might never meet you just realize how much this game means to you. Malik's speech was terrific and he deserve's all the plaudits he can for it. Well played Pakistan - despite the fact we lost we are still proud of our team and the way they played throughout the tournament. I just want to add one more thing, if Malik's vision of seeing Pakistan become No.1 has to come true then POLITICS has got to stop. I dont Shoaib's appeal should just be put on hold right now. As it is the guys are going back shattered and then you have these stupid distractions because of some idiot who cant handle fame. Pakistan must look to the future try and find young openers and build a team that can do well in the next edition of the World Cup in the subcontinent.

    Proud to be a Pakistani

  • Atif M khan, Dubai on September 25, 2007, 5:08 GMT

    Yet again the worldcup jinx and its again Paku who lost the match against India in the worldcup final. It’s very hard to digest this new but we have to admit and accept that its Indian team who held their nerve till the last ball. There were ups and downs but we couldn’t win. Once again the luck was with Indians.

    I salute to the paku team for their whole heatedly effort in this tournament and wish them all the best for the upcoming SA series.

  • ab on September 25, 2007, 4:50 GMT

    I think Pakistan has found a real fighter in batting.. in Misbah.. like old Inzi used to be!

  • Junaid on September 25, 2007, 4:35 GMT

    Great Match and I think better team on the day won. Hats off to Misbah for such a brave innings. Umar Gul was sensational in bowling. Imran Nazir was brilliant at the start and unfortunately our most experience player Younis Khan was the culprit. First he was responsible for Imran's run out and than he after wasting 20 odd deliveries he played a rubbish shot. Much was ecpected from champ Afridi but it was not his day and he definitely disappointed us. Anyway well done Pakistan team for making to the finals and you deserve a great welcome back home.

  • Sandipan on September 25, 2007, 4:24 GMT

    Short memories is that not all?

    if Afridi played a stupid shot so did Dhoni and yuvaraj.. it never ends. You and I are sitting in our cosy chair and passing comments. Out there it is not all that easy.

    It was a tournament of unsung heroes and the display of vivacity and fearlessness of youth. That is what was so special. Some lost and some won.

    Salutes to the ashrafuls the mishabs the afridis this tournament was what it is.. I am an Indian - a proud Indian.. but yesterday it did not matter which side won.. you were just proud to see young people trying their best and doing unimaginable things.

    t20 has been a launchpad.. a ballad for the unsung heroes and yet we look at the negatives and yet we push the hardworking below the glamourous.

    No one talks about Gautam Gambhir or Rohit Sharma.. if you really see they were the ones who made a difference.. no one see that Sharma had just given 13 runs in his previous overs before coming onto bowl the last.

    All in all.. it was to me the victory of game that was in all my memory the first indo-pak of sensible competitiveness instead of the silly nonsensical enemities..

    I am proud to be an Indian again.. I am happy that Pakistan is my neighbour.. if the youth of our lands have started becoming so sensible and sporting.. it raises hopes. They both draw admiration irrespective of borders - and that is the hope.. the youth of the lands are ready now to draw and have respect for each other.

    Zindabad Jawan Salam Pakistan Salam India

  • Prakash Mahtani on September 25, 2007, 4:22 GMT

    We said Mr. Kamran , fitting end to a final which was least expected . I can only say this if that ball were to hit a inch closer to the middle , India would have lost the game .

    Such a small thing was a decider . Pakistan played a great tournament . And hats off to them to produce a final's to remember . I only would like the public to keep calm about this as it's only a game and player's families and houses should be left alone .

    No one wants to loose and i really hope sense will prevail at the end of this .

    And to India well played last night was one of the best night's of my life and i will remember that day till the day i die .

  • Muhammad Tariq on September 25, 2007, 4:08 GMT

    I totaly agree with the comments that today is the great day for Asian cricket and thanks to Pakistan and India to produce such good cricket. Although Pakistan lost this final but this is what cricket is about. One team can win a match and its India who played well than the Pakis. So I a Pakistani congratulates India and the People of India for wining this Twenty-20 championship. and Also Congrats to Pakistan team and Pakistanies that our team played really good cricket throughut the tournment. But As i repeat the words of the Legend Imran Khan in my previous comments that "IF WE PLAYED LIKE TIGERS I WILL NOT MIND WIN OR LOSE TODAY. So it was a tough match and really the Pakis played like the tigers. Ind the end Congratulations to INDIA, PAKISTAN and CONGRATULATION to the whole ASIA. Wish you both best of Luck PAKISTAN and INDIA.

  • Milind Raj on September 25, 2007, 3:55 GMT

    Somebody file a missing person complain for that Javed khan of montreal or at least find a doctor for him before he slips into s coma after his big useles predictions. The best team won .coooooooooooool

  • B on September 25, 2007, 3:31 GMT

    Malik didnt articulate his sentiments in the right manner. what he probably meant was that he wants to thank all the people who prayed for them as its Ramadan. Agree that religion and sports dont mix but neither should politics and religion or national identity and religion- yes they are in Pakistan. And whether u like it or not, religion is intertwined with every facet fo Pakistan. Malik may not have chosen his words well but give the guy a break. His team just lost a final after putting on a great show throughout the tournament. He tried his best to express what he could- Pakistan played 100%, we are sorry we didnt win and thank all the Muslims who were praying for us during this Holy month of Ramadan. Dont take everything away from the guy just coz he made a slightly politically icorrect statement at the post match ceremony. Congratulate him and his team for putting a smile on our face after a long time.

  • No_More_Younis on September 25, 2007, 3:30 GMT

    100% agree with you Jack Ryan!

    Younis Khan hurt us badly in the both games against India. He got akaml (who was in fine touch) out in the preliminary game and got himself out in the same over. In the final, he got nazir out (turning point) and got himself out by playing the most reckless shot of the game! No more Younis period!!!

    Paki Dude

  • Deepak Naidu on September 25, 2007, 3:21 GMT

    Mr Faraz, i, as a indian, didnt like the choice words you took to describe "US" in general... "that is what Indians are famous for, cheapshot arguments etc. etc."

    i have worked with & known pakistanis for years when i was in gulf. and i still am seeing a lot of pakis here in USA... but i dont want to express my opinion about them in a public forum like this as i still have some BASIC common sense left in me... would really help everyone, indians & pakistanis alike, if we dont carry this forward.

    we just witnessed great match of cricket ! and let us share some thoughts about it instead of religion and twisted perceptions...

    lets hope, malik didnt meant what he said, period. and i feel sorry for misbah, these 2 defeats against india will haunt him for long as chetan sharma still gets those nightmarish dreams of "last ball six" ! that is the way cricket is... you have a winner & a loser for the records... i just hope that this defeat doesnt take a toll on the pakistan team... i am a big fan of afridi but he dissappointed his team when he was needed... overall, the best team won and i am glad they did !

  • Yasmeen on September 25, 2007, 3:18 GMT

    To Pakistani cricket fans, let me try to explain why Malik's statement was controversial. The statement by Malik questions the very identity of an Indian. It is difficult to define what does an Indian identify himself or herself with because India is a vast country with different language, culture and religion. Most Indian love there country for this unique blend of languages, culture and religion. They are proud that they can not only co-exist peacefully with each other but also enjoy each other's success (I know this is not always how it is but this is what a proud Indian likes to think). When you question our ability to co-exist with each other or ability to share each others success and failures you question the very identity of an Indian and hence it is offensive.

    Furthermore, as we all know, India and Pakistan were divided on the basis of answer to the question - whether Hindus and Muslims live together? I do not know what is the "correct" answer but what I know is that this, my friends, makes it much more offensive and arrogant coming from a Pakistani. It is as offensive as a Pakistani can get to an Indian.

    I understand that Pakistani's are as patriotic as citizens of any other country. And they must also have some idea of Pakistani identity. If we can understand each other and respect each other's feeling we will give the next generation much better world then we live in.

    I guess (and hope) Shoaib Malik's comment was due to his poor English speaking skills or just plainly said something he didn't intend to say. However, it is important we as citizens of two countries discuss more about these uncomfortable issues (as oppose to what has been suggested by some people here). It's a bit like Dhoni thanking all South Asians for praying for an Indian victory. Would such a statement not offend a Pakistani?

  • Kiran on September 25, 2007, 3:14 GMT

    Congrats to India!!! Well played Pakistan! What a thrilling finale it was. It was as close an India Pakistan match as ever. Of course congrats to Dhoni and his team. You got to feel sorry for Misbah (as well as Umar Gul - amazing bowling). It was also great that fans from India and Pakistan as well as the players are able to deal with wins and losses in a more mature way.

  • Ramakrishna on September 25, 2007, 3:05 GMT

    What a match! It is a pity that there could be only one winner, but like many before me have said, the game of cricket is the winner. If I was to pick my dream team from the ranks of India and Pakistan, I don't think that any team in the world, Australia included could take it on. Congrats, Pakistan, and Congrats India

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on September 25, 2007, 2:58 GMT

    This is in response to Mukul Kevasan's post September 24, 2007 9:43

    As soon as the match was over, I had left the scene and gone to work and am back again after almost 12 hours to see 310 plus posts in this new thread. I knew there would be a new thread and Mr. Abbassi did not disappoint his readers. I also knew there would be congratulations, commiserations and postmortem of the game. But, I never expected the unexpected - I am not talking about the game but, the drama that Mukul Kevasan has created. So, before striking the keyboard to punch my thoughts and air them, I went off to see the replay on my PVR only to hear what Shoaib Malik actually said? These are his actual words:"First of all I want to say something over here. I want to thank you back home Pakistan and where the Muslim lives all over the world."

    And Mukul Kevasan, the avatar of the blog called, "Men in White," picked up that line to create - a drama, a division of thoughts and sentiments - there can't be a more apt word than "Fitna," in Arabic which would translate the true meaning of Mulkul's action. And, I am using it to describe what Mukul has done here. He is creating a "Fitna" just for the heck of it and he is also waging a war of words in retaliation by saying: "No, we shouldn't (stop accusing Malik), because Shoaib Malik chose to make it our business by saying it in team colours at the end of the ICC World Twenty20 final. He said something that goes to the heart of cricket's loyalties, its culture, its plurality of race and faith and language" blady blah and ...... daady daah.

    What a farce, what a farce! Mukul is a very shallow person, first, he gives a caption on his blog "Scenes from a final" and then after his usual drivel and rambling, he quotes the exact words of Malik and says: "The problem here isn't the syntax, it is the sentiment." By saying this Mukul is negating his own statement. How can Mukul judge or translate Malik's sentiments unless he goes into Malik's mind and body and feels the spirit in which Malik has expressed his words.

    Actually with Malik, there is a syntax problem and we all know that his English is pathetic. I am the one who makes fun of his English grammar and his choice of words like, when the raining is coming to the ground. But, that doesn't mean I judge Malik's sentiments, his loyalty or his integrity. A few times I have highlight his pay&do-ism in light humour and this is one of the reasons that I do, because people - none other than who call themselves as our friends, well-wishers, so called brothers in reality our neighbours - pick and choose lines like these not just to make fun but, to create a fitna and to defame us by twisting words and sentiments and highlight them to the rest of the world by distorting the actual words, meaning and even the message. And, what a shame that Mukul is doing it so blatantly.

    When Shoaib Malik said, what he said, neither Ravi Shastri (the interviewer) nor anyone else listening to those comments, raised an eyebrow. Because, from Malik's expression it didn't appear like the intention was wrong or there was any malice in his statement or in his body language that he is creating a Muslim vs. Non-Muslim issue. From what I see, it all came out spontaneously - a reaction in pure emotions owing to the month of Ramadan - where all Muslims were not only fasting but were also praying for Pakistan's win. Specially and specifically he wanted to thank them, hence he mentioned the word "Muslims (who live) all over the world (and must have prayed for them) and because of his lack of command over the English language, he got lost in choosing the right words. Is that a big thing? The Presidents and the Prime Ministers of the "Great Countries" whose mother tongue is English, they make big bloopers on TV and get away with that.

    During this twenty20 championship, one of the very well known commentators (I won't mention his name) during the comments session made a blooper by saying: "the real pleasure of sex (success) comes from hard work" and he got away with that because that wasn't a slip of the tongue but, the tongue got stuck in it!

    And, Mukul did not waste a moment in creating a Fitna in highlighting and ripping apart Malik's statement, he made an issue and went on stirring character analysis of Malik, not only in his own blog, but he has the audacity and cheekiness to write here on "Pak-Spin" by ordering Mr. Abbassi to post it.Posted by: Mukul Kesavan (ABBASI POST THIS!!!) PLEASE!! at September 24, 2007 9:43 PM

    It was his post here that drew my attention on this subject and I had to read his thread and then I see the replay to hear what Malik actually said? And look at Mr. Abbassi's humility, he has posted Mukul's humbug here. Congratulations Mr. Kamran Abbassi for being so humble and liberal and, you have provided us an opportunity to give Mukul a taste of his own spicy "Murkul." Like a good curry - my post will bite him twice!

    I request my fellow bloggers to express their views and support Malik's stance. I will postmortem Malik's captaincy and my post-match synopsis of the final in my next post. But, right now for me, this is more important to devote my energies in protecting Malik's honour, loyalty and integrity which is being "ripped" apart by the so-called pseudo-secularists and broad minded intellectual vultures for no reason other than creating a fitna against us.

    What a shame Mukul, you are not only twisting Malik's words and sentiments but, you are so blatantly making a mountain out of a molehill for no reason.

    Now, please be honest and tell me that you, being a Hindu, a Buddhist or whatever you are, were you praying for India's win or not? You say that you were about to throw up when you saw the last shot! You actually did, you puked in your blog and you came and you did the same here on Pak-Spin. Because, this win is so big for you that you couldn't digest it. Having said all that in your own blog, you went on to twist and dissect Malik's words and even his sentiments and created a new meaning that suits you i.e., only to get some cheap tabloid style publicity and attention or to create visible readership to your humdrum blog which otherwise is so plain, dull and boring.

    Men in White remains stalled for weeks, its not that you fail to update it but, there is hardly any substance in it for the readers to contribute their opinions except for a few die hard Indian cricket fans. Very recently I had posted a few of my opinions after Sreesanth's sordid beamer in England and also a couple of posts in response to Omer Admani's post in that blog.

    Omer assumes that you are a very lenient, liberal, secular and unbiased person. I am sure after reading this sordid thread of yours he will also change his opinion about you and your blog. I have already stopped writing in your blog not because you have censored a few of my posts and discarded those which were very blunt, probing and pertinent. The main reason is, I've never enjoyed writing there or felt easy in that blog. Whereas, Pak-Spin is far more liberal, interesting and I feel like I am at home. And those who criticize me and my writings, I still love them despite the fact that I tease them and make fun of them sometimes, but that is only to keep some interest alive on this blog. I reiterate that there is no better blog like Mr. Abbassi's Pak-Spin and I mean it.

  • Pramod_India on September 25, 2007, 2:53 GMT

    Like I said earlier in this blog it comes down to big match tempermant. India held their nerves during the final stages of the game and are deserving winners. This young Indian team had a lot of resilience and kept their cool in important stages of this match and also the tournament and are the deserving winners. Again, Pakistan also must feel proud of their young team about the way they performed throughout the tournament. It is heartening to know that there is talent still in Pakistan and India after the departure of stalwarts from both teams. On show are the young guns who are going to entertain us in the next decade or so. Good luck to India and Pakistan and congrats to India for lifting the cup. You are worthy winners.

  • Archit on September 25, 2007, 2:29 GMT

    P.S. re my last entry - that was well written wasn't it? Cricinfo staff, this message is for you how about offering me a job to write articles? consider the last post as the resume itself :p

  • pakistanindiabest.... on September 25, 2007, 2:24 GMT

    good much very even, without misbah i dont think pakistan would have reached the finals, brillant batsman

  • Archit on September 25, 2007, 2:23 GMT

    a "comedy of errors" indeed - the match, itself; then the post-match comments by malik and kevasan. the irony of some of the responses on this blog is, that while you blame someone else for inappropriate comments, you are committing the same sin.

    far from the need to dwell on what could have been, what should have been, and what should and shouldn't have been said, last night provided a great spectacle, inspiration and dreams for the future of these two cricket powerhouses. I can't help but smile over what has been an incredible two weeks for India, Pakistan and cricket, itself.

    we have seen two young and inexperienced teams without some of their big players - rightfully tagged as the underdogs, and perhaps not so rightfully written off before the games begun. on the 'group D team previews' section, both India and Pakistan were rated 6/10, and I quote:

    India: "With their dubious top-order batting and their propensity for being generous in the field, India could well disappoint in this tournament. Then again, if all their reclamation projects are successful, they could be the biggest surprise package of the tournament. They are more likely to fall in the former category than in the latter, and to miss the semi-finals" - Dileep Premachandran

    Pakistan: "Pakistan will make the final eight - but that won't be a great achievement since they have lowly Scotland in their group - and they will fall well short of a semi-final berth." - Osman Samiuddin.

    Both teams showed the grit, the will power and the determination to be the winners. They played out of their skins, and the result of the world final, although disappointing for pakistani supporters, in the long run is highly inconsequential. the fact that there was NOTHING between the teams was reflective in the nature of the final.

    Going into the final, I felt both teams had already won the championship - their excellent batting, bowling, captaincy, and yes, fielding too - brought with them a sense of consistency and maturity that had thus far been lacking. The irony in the maturity with which they played is that both teams came to the tournament without some of their 'mature' players. It is hard to say, but perhaps their exclusion from the sides was a blessing in disguise, as it is paradoxically hard to imagine the teams getting to such lengths WITH their senior players - particularly so for India. With Pakistan, it was also the youngsters (misbah counts as a youngster for his lack of experience) that won them the matches.

    While on one hand, experience in trying situations does develop players' skills, their inexperience in this scenario perhaps precipitated the fearless attitude and depth-defying self-belief both teams flaunted endlessly.

    One feels that both India and Pakistan have FINALLY arrived - having turned their negatives into their strengths, having displayed their strengths consistently, and most of all, having displayed the self-belief, there seems to be only one direction where both are heading - UP, UP, and AWAY!

  • Sami Syed from Toronto on September 25, 2007, 2:23 GMT

    Let's forget about everything for just a moment and think about the gutted feeling that I and we as fans felt when Pakistan lost. I can only TRY to imagine how the players feel.

    For all of you who have been criticizing Afridi and others on the Pakistani team are simply ignorant!!! I mean think about it realisticly, we didn't expect to make it to the final. We didn't accept to face India in the final, I didn't expect a respectable win after pakistan were down 70-6 in this final. However, what we achieved is immaculate!!! We reached the Finals, we beat every team in the tourney and went in with a perfect record into the final along side a tie* bowl-out. I mean this team achieved a lot!!!

    LET'S RESPECT THAT! Let's respect Afridi, I mean forget about him being a batsman but he was a superb bowler and impressed to win PLAYER OF THE TOURNEY!!! I mean he is not cricket god that he should be depended on for everything.

    So congrats PAKISTAN and congrats PAKISTANIS!!! The future is definitely bright.

    Please respect the players, and stop criticizing. Just plainly, ask yourself, did you expect PAKISTAN to make it to the final when this tourney started?

    Sami

    *The only thing I question is the selection of Younis Khan against the likes of MOYO and Abdur Razzaq. And that`s the fault of no player but the PCB!!!

  • Suresh on September 25, 2007, 2:09 GMT

    Well, Misbah is a real fighter. Unbeleivable Charactor!! I think that it is so wrong of us to go back and tell him that the shot he played in the last ball is a mistkae. He knew what he was doing. Unfortunatley it did not work out!!If only it had worked, probably everyone was going to praise that same shot. This match is going to give him a lot of sleepless nights for sure. Congratulation India for keeping the cool and Thanks for fighting till the end to win the world cup for us.

  • Taimur Huk on September 25, 2007, 1:57 GMT

    i am dissappointed in pakistan's loss but i am proud of the effort we put into the match. congratulations to misbah-ul-haq for getting us close to victory. we didnt play very well throughout most of the match, but misbah gave us a chance in the end. this is bittersweet; pakistan put on a valiant effort in a loss.

  • sanjay on September 25, 2007, 1:53 GMT

    I am an INDIAN and proud for the win. But Pakistan win my heart. Well played both team. I hope this will bind two country and prove what we can do if united we fight (eliminate super power )

  • Naveed on September 25, 2007, 1:44 GMT

    Misabh is a 'one man army'. He is an absolute genius. I have never seen anyone bat so intelligently, but he made one big blunder by hitting that paddle sweep.. he could have just hit a 4 or taken 2 runs.. there were 4 balls left which were sufficient to score 6 runs.. I am very disappointed that pakistan came SO close to victory and all of Misbah's hardwork went in vain! :(

  • Suhaib Jalis Ahmed on September 25, 2007, 1:29 GMT

    I would just like to comment on the people who are questioning Shoaib Malik's comments of thanking Muslims all over the world. Mukul Kesavan has writte a whole blog on this issue.

    I do not understand why everyone is wasting so much time on soething that might have just been a slip of the tongue.

  • pakistani on September 25, 2007, 1:23 GMT

    India won pakistan loose but atleast with dignity. here i want to pakistan even lost with good but mistakes always be there. And definitely misbah-ul-haq is not miandad who thinks and get what the bowlers thinking. four balls and six runs even with last batsman he could tried to play alteast or 2 balls pressure will definitely on india than.

    Mistakes -

    Afridi had to open instead of imran nazir. imran nazir should not be in team fawad alam should. kamran akmal should come down the order or he shuould be drop and younis khan keep the wicket.

    people says like one blogger says about fawad alam 'unplayed hero' . he is hero and definitely he is and will be valuable asset for pakistan cricket whether people like that blogger thinks who only thinks about certain province not pakistan. i always goes for talent not parchi. parchis like imran nazir, salman butt, kamran akmal, muhammad hafeez making the stop for deserving player like taufiq umar ( from lahore )shahid yousuf ( sialkot, punjab) Asim Kamal ( karachi sindh) yasir hammed ( peshawar), Sarfraz Ahmed ( karachi), Bazid Khan ( lahore), khurram Manzoor are deserving player who should to be in team instead of those player who i mentioned.

    I am again repeating they should change malik as captain in test cricket and make muhammad yousuf as captain and malik as deputy. Salman butt is not deserved to be in team and they make him VC what a parchi he is.

    regards to all and cograts pakistan played well.

  • ahmad on September 25, 2007, 1:21 GMT

    Imran's run out was the turning point of the game thanks to younis. He is garbage. When was the last time he played good when we really needed him? Afridi should either open or come one down.

  • Imran Khan on September 25, 2007, 1:07 GMT

    Tears are being shed in my heart. Good job Misbah, but why? WHY? Afridi you really dissapointed me. I expected way more from you. Yumis and Malik, what happened? Why failed? We COULD have WON!!!!

  • EAMIRAN on September 25, 2007, 1:03 GMT

    Good game - India deserved to win. They are now the first ever "gulli danda" champs. Below is my take on the future of T20 cricket: Pakistan to compete fiercely in 2 years time and win. Pakistan and India to retain the title between them for the next 3 decades. Unknown 15 year olds to be picked up from the back streets of Karachi, Mumbai, Lahore and Delhi, and show everone that they are, infact, the most experienced cricketers in this format of the game, having played several matches a few days ago with "Bubloo Bhai" and the boys in the back-yard.

    On a more serious note, one of the positives, albeit at microscopic level, is that Pakistan obviously did well at an International tournament. However at the macroscopic level, we have achieved nothing. A status quo has been maintained throughout the tournament between our poor batting and good bowling. The latter was always the stronger suit and expected to perform, whether it was Gul, Asif, or one of the others; however except for Misbah, a late revelation, and one who will not be around for too long, we have not unearthed any new batting talent. This does not bode well for Pakistan cricket. Our bowling resources may win us some Test matches; however our batting will make us lose more. It is not even good enough to draw a game against high quality opposition.

    Finally, on a more cheerful personal note, Sreesanth got mauled!

  • khansahab(A.A.Khan) on September 25, 2007, 1:02 GMT

    I think Mr Abbasi should write a thread about the comment Shoaib Malik made to Ravi Shastri. Whether he meant what he said or not, it sounded ridiculously bigoted. He said something to the effect of thanking people in Pakistan and Muslims all around the world. What is he thanking Muslims all around the world for? I think he became embittered after Pathan’s match-winning performance and after watching Shahrukh Khan support India. Let me state here that Pathan is the son of a muezzin who is probably more religious than Malik. The way Malik said it seemed like, someone like Danish Kaneria would not be supporting Pakistan to win. I think this tells you just how much Kaneria is valued as a “team member” by his team mates. If Yousuf was still a Christian playing in the Twenty20 squad, how would he feel? How would Geoff Lawson have felt after hearing that comment?

    Religion should not be involved with sport. Unfortunately what Malik said today symbolises many of the reasons why Pakistan has not prospered as a nation. What he said symbolises the social and sectarian problems the country faces. The provincial and religious majority does not take into account the minorities, whether they be religious minorities or provincial minorities.

    There are thousands of Muslims here in the UK who support England instead of Pakistan. Millions of Muslims in India support India rather than Pakistan and their support for India has become more entrenched when they have realised how certain minorities are treated in Pakistan by the provincial majority. I know Malik is no Einstein but he should at least have some awareness about how the world runs. What is most disappointing is that this rubbish was enunciated on an international platform being witnessed by people all around the globe. This rubbish will create further problems for moderate and sensible Pakistani Muslims like me living in UK, Canada, USA etc.

    For all those people saying that Malik’s tongue slipped or that was the impression we got because of his poor English, it does not matter what he meant like I said earlier. What matters is what rubbish comes out of his mouth. He should realise that he can’t speak English and should only concentrate on “Thanks”, “No thanks”, “Definitely” and “Of course” from now on. Many people in the West have already been bitter against Pakistani Muslims as a result of this nonsense most Muslims utter on a day to day basis. Do you think they will have sympathy for him after this statement thinking that the poor chap made a mistake because of his poor command over English?

  • shafiq on September 25, 2007, 0:51 GMT

    LOVED IT. THIS IS THE BEST DAMN RIVALRY SPORTS, NOT JUST IN CRICKET PERIOD. ALTHOUGH MY TEAM LOST IN THE END, LOVED THEIR EFFORT TIL THE END. THERE IS NO HARM IN LOOSING AS LONG AS YOU GIVE IT YOUR BEST. CONGRATS TO INDIA FOR WELL DESERVED VICTORY.

  • khansahab(A.A.Khan) on September 25, 2007, 0:24 GMT

    For guys who believe Malik should not be criticised for discriminating against Fawad Alam, Fawad already achieved the “hero” status after his performance in the Twenty20 ABN AMRO Cup. Whoever understands what the terms “batting average”, “batting strike rate”, “bowling strike rate” and “bowling average” mean, and whoever is unbiased and fair will label him a hero. I call him a “tragic” hero who has been victimised by a villain possibly because the villain can’t tolerate the hero bettering him for some bigoted reason :-)

  • Salman Khan on September 25, 2007, 0:16 GMT

    Both teams played well and India was deserving winners of the world cup. They won against Australia , England & South Africa and tied against Pakistan (I know the records show that India won , but really , it was a tie).Pakistan played brilliantly as well and Misbah-ul-Haq appears to be a player who has come to stay. The bane of the India & Pakistan sides , fielding , was conquered . Both teams fielded exceptionally well. MALIK LED HIS SIDE FROM THE FRONT , BUT WHY WAS HE THANKING THE MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD!!!!! WHAT SORT OF COMMENT IS THAT!!!! MANY NON-MUSLIMS SUPPORT PAKISTAN AND DON'T THANK ME PLEASE BECAUSE NUMEROUS MUSLIMS LIKE ME SUPPORT INDIA.I AM SURE IRFAN PATHAN , YUSUF PATHAN , ZAHEER KHAN , MUNAF PATEL AND KAIF DO NOT SUPPORT PAKISTAN AS WELL .I KNOW HE WAS NOT SELECTED BUT WHAT ABOUT DANISH KANERIA .AND GEOFF LAWSON. PAKISTAN HAS PROVED ONCE AGIAN THAT THEY ARE THE MASTERS OF THE "FOOT IN MOUTH" DISEASE. THANK GOD DHONI DID NOT THANK ALL THE HINDUS AROUND THE WORLD. I KNOW MALIK MADE THIS COMMENT WITH A GOOD HEART AND ALL INNOCENCE BUT IT HAS A POTENTIAL TO BE MISUNDERSTOOD. MANY OF OUR FELLOW NON-MUSLIM HUMAN BEINGS WILL DISLIKE A COMMENT LIKE THAT.

  • Dawar Naqvi on September 25, 2007, 0:03 GMT

    Why Yasir Arfat brought back again? He never performed well for Pakistan. Earlier PCB called him for SA tour and the World Cup. But he did not perform well. But once again PCB prefered him over young deserving allrounder Fawad Alam from Karachi.

    He took two valueable wickets in his first and only match in 20Twenty world cup (Semi Final). But very next match Shoaib Malik brought back unsuccesuful Yasir Arfat (From Pindi)

    Why Fawad Alam not included in the final team?

    Why Why Why?

    Some one should impeach.

    Dawar LA USA

  • Shahzaman on September 25, 2007, 0:02 GMT

    I Welcome every one to this new cricketing era

    Smiles on Indian faces are very true and deserving by considering the crunch phase of mental and emotional hip hops, in which match progressed. Couple of order shuffling by shoaib malik was the only one major pick able flaw to me. If shahid afridi could have been sent one down, match might have been won by Pakistan. Generosity of younis khan offered to poor sreesanth, who must had been begging for life in his second over. This took all momentum away from Pakistani team and suddenly imran nazir run out has showed the glimpse of Pakistani shake-up. Why younis was so eager to run after wasting dozen of balls and by knowing the fact, that imran nazir is really struggling with his leg???????????? Look out for a another black sheap in Pakistani young team (younis khan), given me a hints of being jealous person for not being leading Pakistani side. This will be proved in future. To me younis inclusion in this format ahead of yousuf or razzaq was the most sluggish decision taken by PCB. Despite of all the facts, I believe this was still very thrilling contest except some facts. The final between Pak and India had turn-around the current dynamics of game and broken the monopoly of Australian team. I wish this new revolution should continue and beg to our cricketing bodies to fuel this burning fire with some proper technical and wise decisions.

  • Rauf on September 24, 2007, 23:53 GMT

    Both teams proved something in this tournament i.e. they are both capable of beating the likes of any other team in the world. This match was close enough to be a tie but congrats to India for winning at the end.

    To some Indian posters here... try not to be sour winners as usual.

  • Aldo on September 24, 2007, 23:51 GMT

    Hi, Well done to India. I just hope they play with the same enthusiasm, focus, skill during the test matches in Australia. I want to have a good reason for having a tv set in my office or a tv card for my desktop.

  • Faraz (The first Faraz on all of Kamran's blogs) on September 24, 2007, 23:43 GMT

    TALAL: Listen brother, Kesavan has a right to offer his views but he should not berate Malik; and I am hopeful that Kamran will address it through his good office. However, Shoaib's comments were a result of wayward and unthoughtful communication; a serious issue with Shoaib Malik's English language skills and his desire to look and sound cool. I want the readers of this blog (Manish included) to know this. There is no other reason. What Malik said; I can almost certainly guarantee that meant to thank ALL WHO PRAYED FOR PAKISTAN'S SUCCESS which in all likelihood were Muslims all over the world (Pakistanis and other nationalities -- I know I did and I live in Canada) other than this he was not referring to anything else. I can understand how Manish on this blog would be confused but for Kesavan, I am confident it is to sledge Malik and that leaves a bad taste in the mouth but my dear TALAL, that is what Indians are famous for, cheapshot arguments etc. etc. (not saying all of them are but atleast , atleast HALF of them behave in this way).

    Other than this, I would like Kamran to conduct a post-mortem of this defeat. This game should have been finished in the 15th over, Younis khan needs to go back to county cricket, he is the reason for this defeat, running out Imran on an unnecessary single when Imran was visibly in pain due to his injury. Other factors are also there, why was Fawad Alam not picked for this game? Arafat went for 20 in his last over and if Tanvir was to bowl the last over then how is Asif not a better choice over Arafat no matter how badly Asif was hit for runs earlier.

    Hafeez's mistakes are almost unforgiveable, true that he has contributed to Pakistan's success in a considerable way, but to palm that catching chance for a six and then gift catching practice off of rp singh is unforgiveable. I will not hestiate to mention one more name in this debacle..that of Shahid Afridi, why could he not play a sensible shot given Malik had just got out the previous ball....

    This match and the round A match was all for the taking and Pakistani team made a mess of both.

    Misbah must be commended but he too played a risky stroke when there was 4 balls with 5 runs to get. A comedy of errors but the bottom line would read that Pakistan cannot handle India at the world cups...

    Finally, to win the world cup with all the misery prevailing back home in Pakistan -- Musharraf and thugs running amok in Pakistan politics and our collective deeds has something to do with this result; how could we win a cup when disadvataged people in Pakistan are suffering and the likes of Musharraf are enjoying the while...

    We need a complete revamping our soceity and maybe then all competitions will be ours..

    Pakistan Zindabad Pakistan Paendabad

  • Adnan on September 24, 2007, 23:16 GMT

    I think if everyone believes, this is a victory of game called cricket (might be true). But to me indian team should thank to younis khan for taking all the momentum away from pakistani team. Younis is a perfect player for playing the matches which are conducted on the roof, where you are out if you hit the ball out (i mean street). Younis has truely ruined pakistani chances of winning, and awarding a maiden over to poor sreesanth, who might love to fell in love with him after such a remarkable gift. And the match was almost moved into indian courts by younis khan when he daftly ran imran nazir out, who was looking in such a fine touch, that i thought if imran could have been facing sreesanth 2 over, sreesanth could have been second Cheetan sharma for india. Indian fans like rajesh, who had posted some nonsense comments about pakistan, must own an tribute for the younis khan hastings. I believe younis khan is a bit jealous of shoaib malik and his body language potrays that i am a predecessor of Imran khan lols. anyways congratulations to all who agrees with mr abbasi but its not me.

  • Faisal on September 24, 2007, 23:07 GMT

    Congrats to India for a great win in a historic final! Pakistan did a great job and should be proud of their achievement!

    Also about the post match comments of Shoaib Malik about thanking all the muslims - A lot of people might not know it is the Muslim holy month of Ramadan and a lot of people are fasting and praying for their favorite team...

    But other than that I agree that people should keep religion out of sports...

  • Shaival on September 24, 2007, 22:58 GMT

    Although at first it sounded really inflammatory, the statement made by Shoaib Malik should not be taken literally. Being an Indian, and knowing that Indian Muslims owe their allegience to India as much as any other Indian, I would like to think it was merely an unintentional statement and a case of communication error. There should be no issues with giving Shoaib the benefit of doubt. But if he actually meant what he said, it is a shame indeed.

  • Jaanasheenster on September 24, 2007, 22:58 GMT

    Take a look at the Indian blogs. A great case of "sore winners". Shoaib Malik is a great leader of our cricket team and I will pray to ALLAH (SWT) on behalf of ALL MUSLIMS that he stays at the helm for another decade or more. LOL...there.

  • Green All The Way on September 24, 2007, 22:56 GMT

    Only, Pakistan can come from no where and get so close to winning. Great job Pakistan Team. Congratulation to India Team.

  • amer on September 24, 2007, 22:46 GMT

    Congrats to Shoaib Malik....he is a worthy captain.Even after loosing he is a winner.Well done to all the team

  • Dr KM Husain on September 24, 2007, 22:45 GMT

    To the Pakistan team: Regardless of the outcome,you did us proud. Thank you for the terrific effort, now keep up the good work.

  • ZZ on September 24, 2007, 22:31 GMT

    Yunus KHAN is totally a mis-fit into the young pakistani Team.He is the main cause of the Pakistani Defeat.As a Srilankan,I have always been FAN of the PAKISTANIS and have noticed that PAKISTANIS have always cheered the SRILANKANS which never been the case of INDIANS....Long Live Pakistan Cricket...All Success to SHOAIB MALIK n the New Guns of Pakistan Team...You are about to Explode..to be the No:1

  • omar hussain on September 24, 2007, 22:30 GMT

    Congrats to India AND Pakistan.Our young bowlers have been magnificent,shame on our batsmen to throw the match away.I am totally at loss to know why Akmal was put ahead of Afridi& co.I thought the line up from the NZ match was good enough.My own hunch is that the battle of the pathans i.e.Irfan,Afridi,Younis decided the match!This time we have to accept that the Pathan from India has as just much guts as our own!I am of course sad that our youngsters didn't win but i am happy in the knowledge that we have up and coming players in Tanvir,Fawad and Yasir Arfat.Misbah is the man of the moment but it is a pity that he is over 30.Shoaib Malik has done a good job and we all hope he will do even better as he grows in experience.Good luck to all the team and well done! We are very,very,proud of you!

  • Anand on September 24, 2007, 22:25 GMT

    Well done Pakistan, I never thought i would have so much respect for your team. Also your players took the defeat with dignity despite the comments of Shoaib about muslims around the world....Clearly thats not what he meant...Well done and may this healthy rivarly continue.

  • TALAL on September 24, 2007, 22:22 GMT

    KAMRAN SAAB . plz read this

    http://blogs.cricinfo.com/meninwhite/archives/2007/09/scenes_from_a_final.php

    and now plz explain why a man like Mukul Kesavan can go and use his powers to degrade shoaib malik you and i and all the readers know that pakistani players got one problem communicating in english and u you dam well what he meant , is this how its gonna be hindu muslim bullcrap just cause one man who is not educated as Mukul Kesavan is that doenst give mukul the right to write this , i would like cricinfo officals to take strong action against Mukul Kesavan and i would like you yo comment on this cause this is a huge issue and i would do whatever in my powers to teach Mukul Kesavan a lesson

  • Irfan Khan on September 24, 2007, 22:19 GMT

    A lot will be said about this match but I think we should be proud of our team and we should give them a great and warm welcome when they come back home. The guys did exceptionally well throughout the tournament till the end and deserve an excellent come back.

    There were a few mistakes like not sending Afridi till late etc but we all know how this works, if Misbah shot had gone for a six– in the end of the day “ JO JEET GAYA WO SIKANDAR – JO HAAR GAYA WHO BANDAR” Although it is not the reality and people should see the game in depth.

    I know it really hurts and it will be hurting for couple of days/months due to a close finish however Fans should not forget how tense it is to be in the ground. When Pakistani team came to UK last year, I met the guys in hotel and the tension was visible on their faces. It takes it toll. So please take this defeat as “SABAR KA IMTIHAN IN RAMAZAN” and concentrate on the next series.

    Congrats India and Well done Pakistan for providing such an entertainment.

  • sivaram on September 24, 2007, 22:11 GMT

    i was disappointed that shoaib malik thanked muslims all over the world fro supporting pakistan. such statements are inflammatory and uncalled for. cricket is not a game played by different religious groups! his contention was also wrong as none of the muslims in india were supporting pakistan. and the most famous indian muslim, shah rukh khan, was there to prove that point. we must not allow such statements to be made in public, as they are not only untrue, but also leave a bad taste in the mouth.

  • B on September 24, 2007, 22:10 GMT

    Thank you to both the teams for the best final in a very long time. Pakistan played like champions but India deserved their win. We leave the championships with our heads high and clearly as the most talented team in the world. We will work on our discipline, nerves and skill but no one can take away the raw talent in this outfit. And Shoaib Malik - thank you for leading from the front, using aggressive tactics and pumping your boys. You and your boys should have also taken a lap of honor as you came out of nowehere, suprised us all and won our hearts.

  • Badar Siddiqi on September 24, 2007, 22:09 GMT

    First of all, congrats to Dhoni and his team who thoroughly deserved this victory. India had built its victory foundation after thumping victories against England, South Africa, and Australia. Any team going into the final defeating those giants of cricket would have an edge anyway. Indians were humble and professionals while the Pakistanis thought they had already won the championship after their win against the Aussies. Maybe that's what got into their minds and their performance was on a decline from that point on. Their lousy win against Bangladesh was followed by their pre-mature victory celebrations after the semi-final win against New Zealand. The PCB also pre-maturely rewarded each player after the game against Australia. Maybe that win meant more to the PCB than the trophy itself. They should have kept their rewards after the team had achieved its main goal; to win the championship. That pre-mature celebration must have affected the players' performance for sure. They thought they would just walk over any team after that. I'm glad that Pakistan didn't win because that would have blindfolded them from their grave mistakes and shortfallings.

    Pakistan must be fortunate that they lost to India for a much less margin because the way the Indians had started their innings, a huge total was on the cards. All credit goes to our less known heroes who saved our faces first by restricting India to a much less total than was thought, and later bringing us pretty close to the target otherwise our seniors had almost ensured us a huge loss in the final. Andy McGlashan rightly asked the decision of sending Kamran Akmal at one down in his column. Such experiments cost us big and once those untried players fail to deliver, the pressure takes its toll on the rest of the team. Was Kamran Akmal a huge success with the bat that the management sent him at number 3 in the final? They also brought Umar Gul an over early thus allowing India to capitalize on the final two overs that made the difference in the end. Malik's insistance on keeping Afridi till the end was just mind boggling. Hopefully they'll learn some good lessons from the championship. Good luck for the future!

  • Dr. Muhammad Imran on September 24, 2007, 21:56 GMT

    First of all hats off to Dhoni and co. to play outstandingly without a regular coach and coming into final from nowhere. Pakistan played really well but the result should have been different for the performance they have been putting in. For me stars from pakistan camp is Gul and Misbah ul Haq. So we have found a new ul Haq for middle order with the same calm and cool head in the ground. I can see a very good cricketing brain in him. He has enjoyed captaincy experiences in the past with A and domestic teams. He must last longer in Pakistan Cricket. A big question mark for Younus, Afridi and Akmal. Pakistan now needs a keeper with the batting abilities . Kamran has been a failure with the bat and gloves for some time. Younus has to bat beside smiling and cheering up while afridi.....we should take him only as a bowler and dont consider him as a batsman so that we can select team accordingly. I dont see him as a responsible person in the team and should never be relied on.

  • Ubaid on September 24, 2007, 21:49 GMT

    Lets not try to turn defeat into something palatable by using cliche's like " victory for cricket". If it makes you sleep better at night, so be it, but don't put out articles like this. India won today because they were better. We had a couple of numbskulls who were fasting and playing. Surely younis's brain was screaming for some glucose when he decided to take a quick single with the injured imran nazir at the other end. To me, that is silliness. No victory for cricket here sir. Just a loss for silliness.

  • Osman Ali Khairi on September 24, 2007, 21:48 GMT

    http://blogs.cricinfo.com/meninwhite/archives/2007/09/scenes_from_a_final.php Trust the Indians to make an issue out of a non issue. It was probably a slip of the tongue and yet has been taken out of context and blown out of proportion. Sigh.

  • Jim Aldous on September 24, 2007, 21:47 GMT

    Well said Kamran. Both teams ultimately deserved to win the tournament and it's a shame there could only be one victor. Both India and Pakistan have played their cricket with such verve and energy - it really was a pleasure to witness! Even if the last few overs of Pakistan's chase were a nerve-jangling episode of Edgbaston-2005 proportions which had me hanging off the edge of my seat at work.

    Moreover, I am genuinely glad that Pakistan have recovered so emphatically from the scandals and trials that have plagued their last 12 months, from Shaoib Ahktar's antics to Bob Woolmer's untimely passing to Ovalgate last year. To have won this tournament would have been the icing on the cake, but even in defeat Pakistan stand second to no one.

    I hope they now enter a new era of sustained success with their new captain and coach. Pakistan certainly have the talent to challenge the best; they just need to demonstrate the resolve and the desire to beat the best. And with that I wish them the best of luck.

  • Awas on September 24, 2007, 21:45 GMT

    The way the last thread was getting updated so regularly was quite refreshing. After posting a new one now, it looks as though Kamran Abbasi has gone on a well needed long break after such a nail biter -:)

  • Mukul Kesavan (ABBASI POST THIS!!!) PLEASE!! on September 24, 2007, 21:43 GMT

    Great Job Pakistan and especially Misbah even though i was about to throw up when i saw that last shot :(

    On a different note, Mr. Abbasi, I want you to focus on Kesavan's blog and all the comments RIPPING Shoaib Malik to shreds over what he said. Please readers kindly point out to him that like it or not religion is an imporatant part of the lives of pakistanis. If they don't like it they can shove it. Even under your last post, there were similar hate filled sentiments from so called peace loving people who went on to degrade the people who mentioned religion at all. Malik was only thanking all the muslims who prayed for the team including Expat Pakistanis, but it seems they are set upon making him a scapegoat and I pray to ALLAH( yes a is aid it censure me if you like...)that we won't let that happen to shoaib for something that had no sense of wrongdoing in it.

  • Rakesh Meena on September 24, 2007, 21:41 GMT

    hmmm.... it's a heart breaking win by indians for all.Every player are the hero in himself because as they got the chance to play they did it in a fine way.One thing which came in sight THE FIELDING...wow...it's the benefit of a young team....and the leadership of dhoni was amazing, he gave chance to everyone in the team and his mantra was briliant" Give your 100%, win or loose dosen't matter.

  • Jaanasheenster on September 24, 2007, 21:39 GMT

    Losers always say that...lol. ``There were no losers today, the game of cricket won blah blah blah". The fact is our batsmen couldn't held their nerves when it mattered. I thought no matter how low Indians may have scored we still would have came up short. Misbah was the only standout Pakistani batsman who was the exception. Till we find some batsmen with some better stomachs, I am afraid this will happen again and again. I agree with you we gained a new star in Misbah as a result of this tournament and I hope he stays with us for at least 5 years along with MoYo. Our bowling is our strength and it made us proud again today. Our fielding has improved leaps and bounds and I hope we take these lessons to the oneday and the test arena.

    Indians are deserved winners. They performed upto their potential in all departments. Congrats India for your win.

  • abid on September 24, 2007, 21:39 GMT

    congrats india.excellent match. well played pakistan been the best tournament ive ever seen. feel sorry for misbah, definetely deserves to be in the pakistan squad. he is the coolest minded player i have ever seen. well done pak and india. also agree that gul should have been player of the tournament.

  • imran malik on September 24, 2007, 21:27 GMT

    20/20 is damaging for the technique of both batsmen and bowlers....the real test of skill comes in test matches but ICC is on money making spree and they will ruin the tempramental cricketing abilities of cricketers.....pakistan couldnt even played full 20 overs today....the run rate reqd was not sky high .....but because of execssive odis and now 20/20 and bits and selection of peaces players ..we wouldnt find any cosistency and solid technique..... some suggesions to PCB 1-make good pitches in pakistan ... 2-make our batsemn play in testing conditions to avoid there failure when they are pushed against the wall.... 3-PERFER PLAYERS WITH SOLID TECHNIQUE AND TEMPRAMENT LIKE ASIM KAMAL ,TAUFEEQ UMAR,FAISAL IQBAL,ETC OVER AFRIDIS AND HAFEEZS... 4-FOCUS MORE ON REAL TEST CRICKET WHICH DEVELOP THE SKILLS IN CRICKET....EXCESSIVE ODIS AND 20/20 WILL RUIN THERE SKILLSSS ...LOOK AT AUSTRALIA THEY DONT EVEN CARE ABOUT 20/20 BECAUSE THEY KNOW ITS JUST NON SENSICAL CRICKET DESIGNED BY ICC TO MAKE MONEY

  • Imran Khan on September 24, 2007, 21:00 GMT

    Congratulations to Dhoni & Co. for showing excellent leadership skills and leading his team from the front. I would also like to congrat. Pakistan for giving every thing they had through out the tournament. Its unfortunate that Pakistan could not make it to the finish line but atlease they fought like a tiger. Its all part of the process and i really hope our team learn out of thier mistakes and improve on them. I salute Mibah the way her performed. At one stage it seemed that the guy was up against eleven and fighting hell of a war but unfortunately pressure of the moment had taken its tall and he had chosen a bad short. Excellent captancy by Malik except couple of decisions (well no one is perfect). If i was in Pakistan i would have gone to the airport to receive my team for two reasons. One to receiv Misbah for his wonderful contribution and second to shoot Kamaran Akmal to make sure i dont see him again.

  • Rose on September 24, 2007, 20:59 GMT

    I would like to point out one disconcerting point in Mallick's interview. Thanks to all Muslims - as an Indian muslim, thats questioning my patriotism. And all the muslims that play in different teams. Why? I hope its just an immature statement from a religious muslim. We believe in our faith and strongly at that - but let me have the freedom to choose the country i support. It is a sour comment in an otherwise splendid match. Well played India and Pakistan - a true response to those who gave up on the teams after the World Cup. Cheers

  • dhanya on September 24, 2007, 20:49 GMT

    As always, well written by Mr. Abbasi. Both the teams played well under pressure. It will be great if the cup remains in South Asia. It had become too boring and predictable to see the arrogant Ozzies win tournaments without losing any game or being challenged. I am delighted that both Pakistan and India defeated Ozzies and brought them down to earth. Let us enjoy this victory together. Dhanya

  • Shoaib on September 24, 2007, 20:49 GMT

    No one can beat Pakistan but its own batting. I committed in last blog too that We need a batting coach. How long are we going to win just because of bowling. I don't why Yunus Khan is in the team?. I have never seen any senior batsman playing like that. I can not see any position for Yunus Khan in ODI and 20 / 20. We need to be realistic and figure out that besides winning and reaching to final, our batting sucks!!!!

  • shakoor jilani on September 24, 2007, 20:48 GMT

    Cmon guys--face it--we panicked with the exception of Misbah. Yes, Pakistan has recovered, yes they fought, but you simply CANNOT IGNORE senior guys like Afridi and Younus to be so OBLIVIOUS to the ciritical situation. These guys were far too callous in their approach.

    Only 2 good overs were required from either of these 2 guys.

    jilani

  • RomperStomper on September 24, 2007, 20:44 GMT

    Both teams played an awesome game. The future looks bright for these guys. But i m sure the aussies are going to come back with a vengeance against both these teams.

  • Chris G on September 24, 2007, 20:33 GMT

    Well played India and Pakistan. Good stuff. Don't let it go to your heads though. I've already read some reports about how both India & Pakistan "thrashed" Australia. Give me a break.

    Cricket was the winner here. Congratulations to you both.

  • Javed Arshad on September 24, 2007, 20:16 GMT

    Never in my not so distant memory..do a remember a captain so humbly coming to the stage..n rather n coming up with excuses "apologize for disappointing a nation" and congratualte the adversary on a good game all in one breath..Malik..i hope you can keeping proving yourself to be a person greater n much wiser than your years suggest...God be with you n the Pakistani team...!

  • Shaival on September 24, 2007, 20:16 GMT

    This is the time for the fans in South Asia to act mature. None of the teams deserved to lose today and I hope that Pakistani fans realise that. I also hope that the Indian fans realise how close a victory it was. It does help that India and Pakistan have been playing each other so often now that matches involving both these teams no longer evoke those extreme and senseless emotions. Even as an Indian, one had to feel for Misbah-ul-haq, getting out the way he did, as rejoicing as it was to see Sreesanth make that catch. I hope the fans in both countries realise that it's just a game. Ultimately the game of cricket was the real winner. Cheers India and cheers Pakistan for enthralling us throughout the tournament.

  • Sitarah Anjum (London) on September 24, 2007, 20:14 GMT

    What a thrilling Final! It was for sure that match would end in scintillation. Its fact one team has to lose and other has to win. In this Final India held their nerves while Pakistani batsmen wobbled and panicked. They played unnecessarily lose shots while they were required to consolidate the inning at a time when wickets were tumbling. Our bowlers did wonderful job by containing Ind and getting Yuvraj and Dhoni out early but alas! Pak lost the golden opportunity to win!

    Nazir looked in good touch but his run-out was the crucial one and made a huge difference. This time our middle order could not do the dirty repairing job. I was disappointed to see the shots from Younas, Malik, Akmal and mindless Afridi! OK, his bowling has compensated somehow but he is an experienced player and he should learn to use his ‘tiny pathan’ brain in tricky situations like this. But never mind… This is why he is Afridi! Promotion of Kamran Akmal and reshuffling in the batting order has been disastrous in this Final. He had a very poor tournament and we did not see the normal Akmal that we all know.

    I knew our bowlers wouldn’t let us down but the batsmen. We did not have a daunting score on board to chase but batsmen just panicked and lost so many early wickets. ‘Man of the crisis’ Misbah again did his best but he lost his nerve just when we hoped we can lift the first Twenty20 Cup…… No doubt he has been brilliant but he would not forget that he could not pull the victory on 2 occasions against India!

    I do not have much complaint as reaching the Final is itself a very big achievement especially when nobody expected but losing a Final and that against India. Whew… No Pakistani supporter likes that. In the end it was a valiant fight but we could have won, hell we had 3 balls and 6 runs! Gul should not have played the silly shot where he lost his wicket. He was supposed to take single and give chance to Misbah. Had we retained few wickets in hands the Cup could have been ours. In big tournament you make only one mistake and you pay a huge price. No Ifs No Buts…. But every one tried to be a hero by hitting huge without thinking and using their brains!

    Apart from Imran Nazir and Misbah I’d say our batting was a huge disappointment and our batsmen have only themselves to blame. They have been self destructive. They gave too many wickets away, lost their nerve and cool and allowed Indian bowlers to dictate them.

    The positives we can take from this game are that we improved our fielding and formed a good combination of 3 striking bowlers Gul, Asif and Tanvir. Misbah rightly deserves a chance in the forthcoming series of SA, IND and AUS. Fawad Alam should be given more opportunities. The team has to start using their technique and skills now and leave the frantic game behind because now they will be playing normal cricket again.

    Salman Butt needs to do serious thinking and really work hard as he was a total misfit for this tournament. Afridi should be given vice- captaincy instead if he is willing to use his brain when it comes to batting.

    In the end Sub-continent team won which matters more than anything… Congratulations, it’s the victory of game after the farcical Caribbean tournament.

  • Hardev on September 24, 2007, 20:13 GMT

    Excellent article. Welldone Pakistan for putting up such a spirited display throughput the tournament and providing us spectators with such a stirring finale!

  • maz on September 24, 2007, 20:12 GMT

    well im gutted but congratulations to india for winning. we're a better team but they play better than us under pressure. i think the turning point was younis khan running out imran nazir. if imran stayed another few overs he would have took them game away india.

  • Mohsin on September 24, 2007, 20:03 GMT

    Well done both sides! Just like the previous encounter between both teams, this one also finished with a nerve racking ending. Misbah, even though he yet again failed to give the right finishing touch to an awesome inning, proved that he is a player of great calibre.

    Congrats to India for grabbing the WC right from our hands!

  • San Nagam on September 24, 2007, 20:01 GMT

    what a final..what a tournament..hats off to both teams. no other major tournament final has been so close and enthrailing as this one was. I agree with Kamran Abbasi that these two young men have taken Pak & Ind teams to different levels. They have braought the fighting spirit in young players, taught them how not to give up till end. The never give up attitude so rare in sub-continent teams seems bit nostalgic now..hopefully it will be forgotten and we continue to have such healthy sporting rivalry between these two nations. This fighting spirit of two teams, even loosing in fighting has brought such an content with the followers that they no longer blame go on demolishing players houses or abuse each others' followers. I hope and wish the maturity among supporters contnues to grow and we will be treated with many more thrilling sporting encounters(not just cricket but hockey, tennis,volleyball, kabaddi and other games) between two nations..

  • Aliyah Azmat on September 24, 2007, 20:00 GMT

    Although it was a great final, I don't see how Pakistan looked to be winning in any department. Bowling wise they 'restricted' India to 157/5! For 5?! In no way was that a successful 'restriction'. The Paki batsmen pretty much failed to hold together the RRR at any stage. Misbah waited till the end to hit Harbi for triple six, when it probably was too late (had he forgotten his featherweight nerves in the last encounter?) and with no wickets in hand.

    Pakistan lost due to lack of personality and courage. It is unfortunate how talent becomes useful when the pressure can overcome it.

  • Suhaib Jalis Ahmed on September 24, 2007, 19:57 GMT

    I would like to congratulate India on a great triumph. Pakistan has nothing to be ashamed of. I will not blame Misbah for choking, because he is the one who turned around the match. In fact I guess Pakistan's batting could be summed up as Misbah-ul-Haq vs India. The way Younis Khan and Afridi lost their wickets was quite shocking. However, today the world got to see what subcontinent cricket is all about. In the future, historians may look back at this match as the single event that made Twenty20s the dominant version of cricket. I also hope that this match becomes the first step in the resurgence of Pakistan and India as two major nations in the Cricket World.

  • Satyajit Mukherjee on September 24, 2007, 19:51 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi,

    You are bang on target with your analysis. Irrespective of who won, both India & Pakistan triumphed over the rest of the cricketing world.

    There is little separating the two teams, as proved by both their games. They are both champions in our hearts, and have given equal joy to both nations. It is a new beginning for both Pakistan & India. As an Indian, I am as proud of the Pakistani Team as I am of India. What a way to rid the sour taste of the Caribbean World Cup!

  • aakash on September 24, 2007, 19:49 GMT

    I agree with you Mr. Abbasi. It was a great match. I support India but agree that Pakistan posed a superb performance as well. It was nice to see a final without Australia. I hope that this win brings more confidence In sub- continent teams and they perform well in one day and test cricket too. Great job India, well done Pakistan.

  • R.Rajaram on September 24, 2007, 19:48 GMT

    Realisticreport scripted by Mr.Abbassi.Interesting final in which ball swinging in bothways but takes the wicket in India'favour.Enjoyed the thrill of Pakistan's bowling and grace of India's bowling and a controlled agression of Gambir.We too love Pakistan for playing aggressive fight back.Hats off to Dhoni for his mantra "play the game for enjoyment without ill feelings and for the win".

  • Naseer A. Quidwai on September 24, 2007, 19:47 GMT

    New era of modern cricket. Breathless cricket for last two weeks. Congratulation to India for their lucky win. Congratulation to Pakistan for having a most profitable tournament from modern cricket. It is a beginning of new Pakistani team. I hope we will look ahead & improve our cricket. Finding new & young players from this tournament is the biggest win for Pakistan. 20 / 20 tournament is a game for players who are in twenties. Pakistan & Indian 90% players are in twenties. Pakistani players need a warm reception to boost their moral for future cricket. Coming Pak-India series will be very exciting.

  • Amit on September 24, 2007, 19:44 GMT

    Right on Kamran. This is why India-Pakistan is special, absolutely nothing compares to it. After a traumatic World Cup campaign for both teams earlier this year, this was a triumph of the spirit and the begining of a new young India and Pakistan team. Malik and Dhoni will loose some win some on the way, but as long as they lead with the flair they've shown, we fans should be proud of them and their team.

  • nash on September 24, 2007, 19:40 GMT

    Kudos to both India & Pakistan for a fantastic final.Dhoni's 'Daredevils' held their nerve and took the winnings. What was significant was they played as a team and supported each other. In contrast look at Afridi. He plays one of the most irresponsible shot at a crucial juncture and then whilst receiving player of the series award(which he anyway doesn't deserve for playing that awful shot)he doen't mention a word of thanks for his teamates but thanks some unknown friend. What kind of team message does it send? He is a self-centred lottery and to win in high-stake matches the team cannot afford him. He needs to be booted out next and I am sure there are other better players suitable for the team. Look at India. They got rid of the excessive baggage (sachin, rahul & ganguly)and suddenly everybody was playing for the good cause of the team. This sums up the thin line of difference between victory & defeat.

  • bilal mehdi on September 24, 2007, 19:31 GMT

    Great Game...: Proved Cricket is game worth watching and playing...! Great Team Effort...: proved what it means to work as a unit; to work with passion; to work with commitment..! Great Leadership...: leading by example, taking tough decisions, belief in youngsters..!

    Only thing better for me( being a pakistani) would have been if Pakistan won...! However, no regret....today Pak team made nation proud and i congrat them for their efforts and results...!

  • Haider on September 24, 2007, 19:31 GMT

    would the result be different if Hafeez had not dropped the catch at the boundry in the last over, that went for a 6 ?

  • Indian Lion on September 24, 2007, 19:28 GMT

    India did it again. Keep the record of beating pakisthan in worldcup. This win has not only made my day from made my life because this is first ever world cup for this format and India is the first one to win. Onebody can take this away from India.

  • fakhar on September 24, 2007, 19:21 GMT

    well todays match was actually given away by our batsman. I must say, that our bowling was really professional, especially Umar Gul and Sohail Tanveer. Well, it s actually good, that we lost today against India, because some decision would nt have been done, if we won today. 1. We need a new keeper(my eyes are on Sarfraz Ahmed) 2. There is no place for Mohammed Hafeez in our Team(he can come only in the Team as a part time spinner and a lower order batsman, but not as an opener) 3.Tanveer and Misbah should definately be consiedered for TEST & ODI 4.We are still a batsman short in middle order, yisuf would suit here the best. 5.Yasir Hameed should be recalled for TEST & ODI. 6. Please don t drop Salman Butt, he is still a good batsman who fits really well in ODI & TEST. 7.Our fielding was good, but the groud fielding and throws at wickets should be improved 8.We don t need Arafat, Tanveer is a better allrounder tahn him

    Well I was quiet surprised, that the full out of form player(Kamran Akmal)was sent 1 down. It always asked for trouble and invited India to attack us!! Malik should have given all the other players a go against Bangladesh and he should have tried tanveer as a batsman against the bengalis. We never knew in which form the other players like Rao, Fawad(as a batsman), Rehman .... were!!!

    Why was Afridi sent down the order??? He was a flop down the order and the only good innings of him came against Bengalis, where he actually opened. We wasted him in todays match.

    Few harsh decision have to be made before the South Africa-Series in one week!!!!

  • Farhad on September 24, 2007, 19:20 GMT

    Well done, India and Pakistan, The ghosts of the carribean World Cup have been finally buried for both the teams.....

    Being an Indian, the win was awesome....

    I bet many Indians must have died from a Heart-attack after seeing the last ball, even I thought it was all over, as the camera angle made it look like it was going for a SIX....

    Only if Pakistan had kept their cool, I am not talking about Misbah, he was outstanding....

    I am talking about Afridi, if he was their with Misbah, they would have won it with an overto spare....

    What a match, long live Twenty20, long live Inida.....well played Pakistan.

  • irfan on September 24, 2007, 19:20 GMT

    salam, well played guys!!!its hard for me to say that india desrved to win but pakistan did bowl very well and their batsmen let them down specially younis khan who i still think a big question mark to me in 20/20 or ODI games as he hasnt got the big shots and he struggled near enough in every match.i still reckon shoail tanvir could have come at no.3 as he bats left hand and it would be easy for him to cope with left arm bowlers rp singh and irfan pathan.anyway our boys done very well throughout the tournament and i hope they do good against south africa in home series

  • Fahad Anwar on September 24, 2007, 19:17 GMT

    At the end of the day the team who held their nerves better won the day and it was India not us. There really was'nt much to choose between the two teams and they are pretty evenly matched. The way pakistan batsmen got out was all down to nerves and pressure, they were all poor shots which could have been avoided easily. However India was calmer under pressure, congratulations to them but absolutely nothing to be ashamed of for pakistan, they should be proud of what the have done. This team will win alot of matches if they carry on like that, after what he has done we cant even imagine to leave out Misbah from the future squads, he can even play in the test team, forget about his age, as long as he is fit he should be there. Shoaib akhtar should be forgotten as we really dont need him anymore.

  • Zaheer Rana on September 24, 2007, 19:16 GMT

    Mr. Abbas, I agree that cricket has won and both India and Pakistan have staked their claim to be among the top three cricketing teams (yes including Australia!) in the world. However, after removing the gloss of the Pakistani team's success, one has to recognize that it mostly due to their excellent bowling that they were able to reach the final of 20/20. Otherwise, not in one instance they could exend their score beyond 170 runs in any match. Secondly, the selectors need to look at the composition of the team little deeper. I think we need good replacements for Younis Khan, Kamran Akmal and even Shahid Afridi (though he bowled well in the tournament). We need a new No.3 batsman, replacing Younis and Kamran Akmal's keeping is nothing exemplary behind the wickets - although in the past his decent batting used to compensate for his deficient wicket keeping. Afridi is good on some days, but those days are far and few, and I think the best days are behind him and we should groom youngsters like of Fawad Alam and bring other budding players in the team.

  • Fahad Anwar on September 24, 2007, 19:16 GMT

    At the end of the day the team who held their nerves better won the day and it was India not us. There really was'nt much to choose between the two teams and they are pretty evenly matched. The way pakistan batsmen got out was all down to nerves and pressure, they were all poor shots which could have been avoided easily. However India was calmer under pressure, congratulations to them but absolutely nothing to be ashamed of for pakistan, they should be proud of what the have done. This team will win alot of matches if they carry on like that, after what he has done we cant even imagine to leave out Misbah from the future squads, he can even play in the test team, forget about his age, as long as he is fit he should be there. Shoaib akhtar should be forgotten as we really dont need him anymore.

  • Asim R. on September 24, 2007, 19:09 GMT

    The sweet sensation of victory is always nice, but it’s the excitement leading up to it that is the real high. As millions climb down from the gigantic overdose of adrenalin – the game of cricket has climbed new heights. This was one fine day dedicated to cricket in South Asia and beyond.

    Pakistani cricket fans should be proud of their team’s performance. Malik has been exemplary as a captain – on and off the field – leading from the front where needed. The team should be welcome back into Pakistan with open arms – they delivered all the way.

    As a Pakistani, I must admit that the climbing down is proving a bit depressing. But, there remains a great joy in being part of something awesome.

    So, until the next rush – congratulations India – thank you Pakistan – for a great couple of weeks of cardiovascular workout.

    Welcome back Pakistan.

  • Saif on September 24, 2007, 19:09 GMT

    One Day cricket was created due to need of the times. 20/20 cricket seems to be more fun and enjoyable. As such ODI's should be slowly phased out as they have outlived their usefullness and in my opnion it should be Test cricket and 20/20 with an annual world championship (just like American Football, Ice Hockey and most other sports. There is no point for the consumers to wait for four years to have a 2 week event.

  • Irfan on September 24, 2007, 19:07 GMT

    Today is the day when new heroes are born and we in the future will be singing praises to these new heroes. In the manner Pak played this tournament I have not an ounce of regret about the losing. So a new Pak is emerging tenacious, gritty and fit. Hope the baggage of the old is jettisoned and we certainly look forward to the upward swing of this performance curve. Congratulations to every body on this blog!!!!!!!!

  • Raja Ehsan Khan Chattar Of Mirpur AK on September 24, 2007, 19:05 GMT

    Wow! What a match it was. Despite Pakistan lost this match, I enjoyed it thorouhly. Pakistan fans will not feel frustration because the team showed an immense fight. We can say that Younis, Malik and Afridi played some outrageous shots but this happens in the pressue games. Misbah will go through some tough time within himself because twice he failed to cross the line. The shot that he tried to play was justifiable only if it would have been the last ball. He had three more balls and he was successfully hitting straight. Scoop shot was not required. Had it been a faster ball it could go for a boundry or six but there was no pace in the ball it could be driven easily to the covers. Anyhow, this twenty20 is over now and I hope Pakistan team will shift gears quickly to be ready for the test matches. One last thing, I wish like most Pakistanis that we find a jewel opener in this season out of nowhere. Our team really needs some one to accompany Imran Nazir. Imran Nazir is extraordinary talented just needs to be tamed a bit. Thank you Pakistan team! Goodluck for the future.

  • Kamran on September 24, 2007, 19:03 GMT

    It was a thrilling end to a magnificient couple of days. I highly respect Pakistan in how they came back from the dead and nearly won the game. It shows the fighting spirit that the young side had. The previous Pakistani team would have just folded in the circumstances.

    Misbah has done me proud, I was a bit skeptical about his selection over Yousuf, but taking nothing away from Yousuf, Misbah showed why he was selected, he had the perfect temperament for this version of the game (right amount of aggression and defense)

    Would have love to see Afridi display something with the bat, sadly we will have to wait for later. Overall, you can take positives out of the loss, Pakistani cricket is on the right track and I wish them the best of Luck.

  • Naveen on September 24, 2007, 19:03 GMT

    That was a great game of cricket. Congratulations to India to have edged in a thriller and Congrats to Pakistan who have played some brilliant and consistent cricket. Pakistan have nothing to lose as they played their heart out, and this is more true especially in the bowling dept. When India were well set with 7 overs to go and 8 wickets in hand to launch the final punch, the Pakistan bowlers did a wonderful job to restrict them to less than 160. That the batsmen didn't respond equally well under presure is differetn story. However, winning or losing, I am sure Pakistan has taken the first few hard steps to many great victories in years to come. And going by their quality of cricket in this tournament, the Pakistan fans wouldn't have to be disappointed for too long. All the best Pakistan! Well Played once again.

  • Imran on September 24, 2007, 19:02 GMT

    Well Played Pakistan..well Played India. Really Impressive captaincy from Shoaib Malik. Misbah is find of the tournament!

    Gud Luck to yall

    Pakistan Zindabad...

  • Taha on September 24, 2007, 19:02 GMT

    Congratulations to India for winning the T20 tournament. To be honest, I am actually hurt that Pakistan lost by 5 runs because I, like any Pakistani fan, really wanted this team to win the T20 world cup. However, I think these two teams have won the hearts of South Asian fans all over the world. They have restored the competitiveness and drama back in cricket and shown the whole world that both, Pakistan and India should be watched out for.

    Well, the Indians did win the tournament and the bragging rights for now. But I believe the Pakistanis will definately even the odds up next time. There's always a next time in cricket.

  • Furqan on September 24, 2007, 19:01 GMT

    Hey there,

    Well i am going to be the sore loser here.. since 1999 Lords Final.. I thought for the first time that MY team is going to win... and keeping with the tradition it didnt

    I dont what i am more sad about.. seeing yet another cliche of India winning in WC against pakistan AGAIN.. or the fact that our batting self destruct once again...

    Granted that we have a lot of Plus from the tournament.. but we all knew about the bowling... we all knew about the capability of Malik..

    what i dont know is how to reply to all those emails that i have in my Inbox telling me that how predictble an end of pakistan vs india match is in World Cup..

    sorry to be a sore loser.. but after a long while i really felt sadness on pakistan team losing..

  • Shah N on September 24, 2007, 19:00 GMT

    Congratulations to Dhoni and to Shoaib Malik as well. I was really impressed by Dhoni's captaincy, Wish I could say the same thing about Younis Khan's common sense. He sees Imran Nazir struggle while completing a couple of runs and then doesn't have the sense to not call him for a quick single. If this was not all, he then plays a totally sense less shot and is caught. Need more proof of his sagacity.

    Overall, the T20 World Championship resulted in many positives for Pakistan, but defeat to India in any manner will hurt and hurt for a long time. You may forget it but ESS will never let you do that. Watch out for re-runs of this epic encounter and that heart-breaking paddle sweep.

    Shah N

  • Areeba Hanif on September 24, 2007, 18:56 GMT

    Did anyone else feel Misbah was more worthy of Man of Series? True Afridi was great with the bowl, but even so i hardly found him shinning' enough to win MOS.

    Misbah on the other hand was such a fine reminder of Klusener from 99 - causing devastation regardless of the condition of the match. His momentum and nerves are priceless.

  • Nizar Dinani on September 24, 2007, 18:53 GMT

    Congrats to India, and Pakistan played well I feel proud of my Pakistani players. Pakistan played very well in all matches. But I feel SHAME for pakistani media,during the match in U.S.A all pakistani news channels were showing politics and talking about...., and showing cooking shows. At the same time Indian channels were showing all about cricket news, coverages, from different cities and players home. because of this I have decided to disconnect all Pakistani channels from my Tv. God bless Pakistan and team, Pakistan Zindabad.

  • Areeba Hanif on September 24, 2007, 18:51 GMT

    I couldn't agree more Mr. Abbasi!

    Malik and Dhoni have brought back passion, power, risk and excitement to the game. We're sexing up cricket without the help of the silver screen and that says a lot given the marketability of our players back home.

    congratulations to India for pulling through a rough poosition in the tournament and coming all the way and many a Congratulations (**and hugs - forgive my bais) to Pakistan for coming out strong men despite the countless upsets and media attacks in the recent times.

    It is absolutely refreshing to see young blood hound for prey, and the cups's presence in Asia only proves it.

    It was an immensely touching moment when Shoaib Malik apologized to the fans for having lost the game. wow did i feel a tear trickle there? Im certain the nation forgives you Shoaib for you and your boys have instilled our faith in Pakistan Cricket again!

    and Mr Abbasi, if you do happen to meet Malik in the near future, kindly let him know that someone somewhere has hopes and a whole lot more for him. :D -- aah yes you get the drift. C'mon its cricket's day, i can say all tha i want!

  • Alex on September 24, 2007, 18:49 GMT

    Great final and obviously only can be one winner. All credit to Misbah who single handedly pulled them through to the brink of victory. If only someone had hung on with him. No criticism is aimed at Misbah I think the rest of the batmen let the team down in the run chase. SOmeone like Younis Khan should have been more responsible especially when u are due a score. The team has emerged with credit and should go home with their heads held high especially Misbah(hope Yousuf manages to find inner peace at the ICL!). Well done boys you provided great entertainment throughout and gave 100%. At least there are people to take over from the fossils like Shoaib Akhtar, Razzaq Inzi and co. The PCB should have invested time in players like Tanvir rather than that psycho Shoaib. If Misbah can turn into a solid middle order batsman and we get a couple of decent openers and get rid of Akmal the foundations are there for a good team.

  • Saurabh on September 24, 2007, 18:47 GMT

    Spot on. Kamrani Bhai. This tournament and the final was a great tribute to the natural talent of the sub-continent.

    Misbah was terrific - almost a reincarnation of Javed Miandad - After an initial burst of four letter words to release the tension, I was almost tempted to do a Flintoff to Brett Lee to Misbah.

    A great game. Victory for two young teams. 1983 was just around my birth. But I will always remember 2007.

    Hard luck! Pakistan.

  • Raj on September 24, 2007, 18:46 GMT

    There is no question about that fact that this was the best match I have seen in decades. As the commentators said, The real winner here is cricket it self.

    But a shocking comment from Shoaib Malik during the presentation ceremony was a big let down and spoiled the good will. He said “I want to thank you back home Pakistan and where the muslim lives in all over the world”.

    Mr Malik, for overwhelming majority of the cricket fans around the world, it doesn’t matter if the player is a Muslim, Hindu, Christian , Buddhist or atheist. Only thing we care about is the quality of the player. I am a Indian Hindu and I enjoy Misbah’s batting as much as I enjoy Yuvraj’s batting. There are millions of muslims in India. You don’t have to be apologetic to them because they are out there in the street celebrating Indian victory. And what about the minority of Hindus live in Pakistan including Danish Kaneria? You don’t consider them as Pakistanis?. To make it simple, your comment was an insult to your own nation and supporters. Next time, be wiser and don’t drag religion in to cricket because we cricket fans just don’t give a damn about it.

    Raj

  • Osman A. Khairi on September 24, 2007, 18:37 GMT

    What an opportunity wasted. I feel for Misbah, I really do. I moaned and grumbled over his selection but it seemed he was the only who could control his nerves and play 'sensibly'. Well played. Hats off to you. Also, the word sensible doesnt apply to the likes of Afridi so I wont even bother elaborating on something along the lines of 'he should have for once exhibited controlled aggression and played some normal cricket'. What a waste of talent this Afridi, really. All in all, the team was disappointing but to make it to the finals...yeah, its a good achievement. But well played India. They played like world champions and they thoroughly deserved it. They deserved to have the last laugh.

  • MilindRaj on September 24, 2007, 18:36 GMT

    Wow Suddenly for all fans here on this blog winning or loosing is not important.If pakistan has won the tone would have been so arrogant one.Suddenly now cricket is winner ;) sound funny coming form Pakistan fans. Helllooooo INDIA is winner and are T20 CHAMPIONS of the world

  • Sushmit on September 24, 2007, 18:33 GMT

    An India-Pakistan World Cup final has been a dream of every Indian and Pakistani. And today when they played the game, they showed how finals should be played. I don't remember any major final to be so exciting and nail-biting. Pakistan bowled really well, and it was just a matter of a miscued shot on Misbah's part that India won. Coming from the first round exit in the World Cup, these two teams have yet again showed us that we can never lose hope in our heroes. M S Dhoni is the captain to watch out for. I think he's got an attitude that betters even Ganguly. This young man will serve Indian cricket very well in the coming Future. Congrats India, tough luck Pakistan and good show Cricket.

  • varun on September 24, 2007, 18:32 GMT

    congrats to m s dhoni and his boys to bring the glory home , when no one had expected this.many thanks to mr malik and his boys as well for giving india a tough competition.this is why 2007 world cup lost its charm. now no one can dare to ignore india and pakistan

  • Salman saifi on September 24, 2007, 18:27 GMT

    Pakistan have only themselves to blame...They couldnt score a paultry total on a placid wicket..I am dejected...We just cant beat them in a World cup!

  • ali_a on September 24, 2007, 18:26 GMT

    Well said everyone, its a triumph for cricket especially subcontinent countries. It was by far one of the best finals, nail bitting till the end.

    Even though, I am disappointed with Pakistan (most notably the batting), India was quite impressive in their last couple of matches -- especially their victory against Australia was far more convincing than that of Pakistan against NZ in semis. India's batting and bowling was superb against Aussies.

    All people here have written good comments here about each team. But wanted to point out a very biased, immature and ugly comments from a person "Ashok" in a couple of older articles, where he accused Pakistan of being dishonests, jihaddis etc. All I can say is that I pity on this person, he probably forgot to grow up.

    As I said in one of my previous articles, Pakistani batting did not look impressive despite some good showing from Misbah, Malik and Nazir. They lost 6 wickets against Aussies, 4 against NZ and today all against India. Big players like Afridi, Younis and Akmal were very disappointing with the bat. Akmal's face was all but calm, he's been looking really nervous in all the big games lately. And Afridi showed really immaturity with the bat, even Gavaskar was saying that Irfan played to his ego and trapped him. Today Pakistani experienced line up failed them again. I couldn't make out why they were trying to hit a six of every ball, they could have easily kept an avg of 8 run with 2, 4 and a 6 every once a while. And the match would have been home. No wonder with this kind of temperament they cannot play the entire 50 overs.

    Its time for Pakistan to have a true batting coaches in likes of Zaheer Abbas, Saeed Anwar and Miandad.

    In the end, I pray that Pakistan can bounce back from this defeat positively. After all, we don't want to see a repeat of 1999.

    Well done Malik and co.

  • Paul Joshua Mathew on September 24, 2007, 18:26 GMT

    No Words to speak, Condolences to our brothers on the border across, but great game and we won. As every1 above has mentioned am so glad that we got the cup. Asia that is. Cant watch Aus getting it once again. Agreed they are professional. But because of that they never look to have the vigour, even after they win it, tehy don't celebrate like how we do!!!! :) anyway, too gud that pak and india played well... We had luck on our side, so we won!!!! Am sad that Misbah took Pak so close and lost it in the end!!!!!]Hats off to his composure and Dhoni's captaincy!!!! He looks to do no wrong!!!!! Cool head personified!!!! I think the match turned, with Younis Khans' hopeless, mindless shot!!! Pathan too, fabolous!!! What a comeback!!!!! Overall it augurs well for Asian cricket1!!!

  • Mike Rosario on September 24, 2007, 18:26 GMT

    Okay folks ...lets have a reallity check on this one. For a 20/20 you don't actually need a half decent batting to be in contention.Which implies ..a trashy batting line up like Pakistan could be a contender in this tournament. The 3 best batting lineups Aus/SA/SriLanka were not in the finals.Even injured and injury prone bowlers having to bowl 4 overs a piece can seem like good bowlers.Such is the case for Pakistan ..perhaps the worst batting lineup in the history of cricket and they were in the finals. Asif and Gul the most fragile of bowlers seemed like good bowlers and that too without any drug use. Vow..

    Predictions : Both India and Pakistan will have lingering miseries in both test and one day cricket. Pakistani fans ..don't gloat ..be prepared there will be an abysmal future..the same heroes will be cause for dismay and agony.

    Best Wishes Mike

  • Dipankar Chawkravorty on September 24, 2007, 18:20 GMT

    We have enjoyed a fantastic cricket final today. Actually, it's a victory of cricket. I haven't seen any cricket final like today's India-Pakistan match. Thanks both Malik and Dhoni for an excellent match.

  • Piyush Chourasia on September 24, 2007, 18:19 GMT

    What was more refreshing to see that both India and Pakistan came to the finals having beaten Australia, so no one, not even Australia can call it a flick of luck. Both the teams have silenced their critics back at home and both of them what a young team full of talent and bubbling with enthusiasm can do. Last but not the least, Chak De India!!!

  • Fahad on September 24, 2007, 18:19 GMT

    Congratulations to the winnig teaqm and the team which fought till the death end. This was one the very few matches wich will be on everyones minds for years to come. Our board has to teach the team and especially the captains that they should not bring religion in to the game. Play the game and show the results. Our captain should not have used the words muslims. I am sure it is not just us muslum's but people of many faiths have follwed this final with the same spirit.

  • Joe V on September 24, 2007, 18:18 GMT

    Congratulations to both India & Pakistan for a fantastic final. Hopefully this will carry on in the future with the great team spirit between both teams amd many more tournament victories for both.

  • Aamir on September 24, 2007, 18:16 GMT

    Well said Kamran! Cricket's greatest rivals played out a thrilling encounter. This was an amazing game played, good to watch India and Pakistan in final both team deserve to be in final as they played outstanding cricket throughout the tournament.Congrates to india and very well played Pakistan. Winning or Loosing is part of game. The game of criket had won today. keep it up. Thankyou.

  • bsinha on September 24, 2007, 18:16 GMT

    Rightly said Sir.

    Both teams played well. Through out the tournament , India batted well and Pakistan was superb with the ball. The difference was very little. It was just that Pakistan felt the pressure a little more than India.

    This is excellent stuff from both the teams who became laughing stocks after the WC debacle. They responded very well.

  • waseem on September 24, 2007, 18:15 GMT

    Well played both captains,although Shoaib Malik again missed the trick and sent Kamran Akmal instead of Afridi at one down position.As we all know how reliable is Afridi specialy when team chases the total.I guess if he should have done lot better at one down position.after fall of Imran Nazir Pakistan never looked to win the match their body language was very poor.Thanks to Misbah again for brave effort again along with Yasir and Sohail Tanvir. Over all Malik showed great captaincy lot better than Inzamam.On Indian team Dhoni was very impressive with his changes although he also missed some tricks.Also their bowling attack which was supposed to be the one of weakest in the world as there is no geniune pace bowler in the team.All are line length bowler but have great control, really impressed with R.P singh and Irfan Pathan.They showed how to bowl if you dont have enough pace. In the end one of best final we witnessed,well played both teams,keep it up.

  • Waseem Imran on September 24, 2007, 18:15 GMT

    Congratulations to India. Well played Pakistan. It was one great display of Team Work. Although its still the early days but Malik showed the glimpses of Imran Khan. A captain with a positive and never-say-die attitude. Best of Luck!Team Pakistan. You made us proud.

  • Pakistan Fan on September 24, 2007, 18:12 GMT

    I want to point out some very very obvious things that Pakistan could have done to win the match.

    1) Why was Kamran Akmal sent at one down? He has not played much in this tournament and we needed someone experienced to take over after the loss of a quick wicket. Malik or Afridi would have been a much better choice.

    2) Younis Khan gave an entire maiden over to India. Younis Khan has been in a miserable form and Malik should have gone to bat before him or Misbah.

    3) The Pakistan batsmen played very defensively with the exception of Nazir and Misbah. Everyone else played reckless shots or defensive shots.

    All said and done, Misbah saved us from a humiliation and made us feel good even after losing.

  • Sanju on September 24, 2007, 18:12 GMT

    I am an Indian. My heart goes to Pakistan team. They have played tremendous cricket. Misbah almost single handedly took his team to victory, but it didnt happen. Both teams played fantastic cricket and we have proved to the Aussies, English and South Africans that we can beat them in their back ground. Nothing brings me more joy than South Asian country beats these arrogant whites. Pakistan dont loose heart, you have entertained all of us...And you have some terriffic players in your line up,,Keep up the good work

  • sambhav, mumbai on September 24, 2007, 18:12 GMT

    well said sir! a triumph for the game of cricket, and who better than pakistan and india to lead the charge? well played both the teams! it was a great pleasure watching pakistan play such fearless cricket through the tournament like only they can.

  • Ahmed Rashid on September 24, 2007, 18:11 GMT

    I think we romanticize too much by saying "cricket is the winner". There was only one winner today. INDIA. We lost because we couldn't hold our nerve. Period. It was just pathetic display from Hafeez, Younis, Malik and Afridi. I want to single out Younis as culprit in chief, the way he threw his wicket and Nazir's wicket as well with poor calling. We must spare a thought for Misbah. The guy brought us back from death to the doors of glory. I am still thinking about what he must be going through. Brave Misbah for your effort.

  • sambhav, mumbai on September 24, 2007, 18:11 GMT

    well said sir! a triumph for the game of cricket, and who better than pakistan and india to lead the charge? well played both the teams! it was a great pleasure watching pakistan play such fearless cricket through the tournament like only they can.

  • Abdullah on September 24, 2007, 18:11 GMT

    Congratulations to both India and Pakistan on producing a truly memorable game of cricket. It was a match which had everything which makes the game of cricket a real treat to watch. As a Pakistani, I really feel proud of the way our team fought. Well Done Guys.

  • sambhav, mumbai on September 24, 2007, 18:11 GMT

    well said sir! a triumph for the game of cricket, and who better than pakistan and india to lead the charge? well played both the teams! it was a great pleasure watching pakistan play such fearless cricket through the tournament like only they can.

  • Nikhil Bhasker on September 24, 2007, 18:10 GMT

    What a befitting tribute to the great game. Agame that is cherished and worshiped across the two new "Super Powers of Cricket" India & Pakistan. I feel elated that India won....but I'm also happy Pakistan proved to be truely great rivals or should I say competitors. It's great time for cricket in Asia as we witnessing the revival of cricket so to say. A message to all Pakistani cricket fans "Please welcome your crcket team when the reach home...they are your heros" I have once again become a fan of Pakistan team... The match played today was played in the true spirit of the game..and both teams deserve compliments in this regard....Personally a little disappointed that Shoaib Akhtar was not a part of this tournament...I sincerely feel that the people of Pakistan should celebrate this success...The great game of cricket has won...Thanks to two good friend India & Pakistan. Kind regards....

  • Usman on September 24, 2007, 18:10 GMT

    Well well well, we loast again one more time to India, and only batsman have to blame them self, they are keep shooting them self in the foot, how many time Malik/Misbah/Younas well save them. rest of the team is spineless and have no clue what to do, match was given to Pakistan by the Pak bowlers after rstricting India, and what do we do we throw away wicket like it's a street tapeball match. Thank you so much for the hope and then killing it like this. Pakistan team played better than in th erecent past but still there is long way to go. In my eyes, we need to find a better wicket keeper batsman, because Akmal is not doing it and then have to get rid of Imran/Hafeez/Salman Butt, they are just too big of a gamble to play. If I can be given 4 chances in every match like Imran gets then I can score also and hafeez/Salman/Akmal waste too many overs and still can't score, they are keep checking theri shots and never play with confidense and shivering when facing the bowlers, just look at India every batsman is aggrasive but play proper shots, no slogs and don't waste overs, pakistani batsman can't even hit the balls that needs to be hit for 4 runs,it's pathatic to watch them. One last thing I am happy that Pakistan is on a right track to rebuild the team and played much better but if we want to win in the future we need to get rid of few bad players and be aggrasive and learn from other teams, playing slogs is not aggrasive, at the end Thank you Malik for a good tornament and I wish you luck for future.

  • Ahmed on September 24, 2007, 18:10 GMT

    Great match, which Pakistan should've won. But lost due to bad planning and strategy.

    Aside from the customary congrats for the two sides. I still do not understand why Shoaib Malik did not send Afridi to open the innings.

    Had Afridi gotten to a good start the match would've been won by the first few overs. Even if he had gotten out quickly, it would not be a massive blow for Pakistan. Playing him down in the lineup is one of the most bone-headed, almost idiotic decisions by Malik. It has cost Pakistan the game/championship here.

    Sad to say, but Malik was completely outplayed/out-strategized by Dhoni in this match. I hope that this is not some kind of personal agenda/jealousy issue with him.

    wassalam

  • Jyothi Durvasula on September 24, 2007, 18:09 GMT

    Well said Mr. Abbas ji!!! Never did I enjoy a cricket match and the spirit in which it had been played, as today. Great Job India and pakistan!!!

    It was a great game of cricket today:) We live in California US and we woke up to an alarm clock at 4.50 am. this morning to watch this historic match:) Even though we are both Indians, my husband was supporting Pakistan as he felt they were the better team:-) We were left biting nails till the very last over.. Just when I thought India was going to win, Misbah showed that he had other plans:-) The confidence and temperment with which he played the game was amazing..

    Speaking of captaincy, I have great respect for both Malik and Dhoni. They really have shown what the game is all about and had led their respective teams wonderfully.

    And I just have to say this... i saw the post match interviews and really LOVED Malik's reply to a stupid question a reporter had asked. The question was that " Do you feel more happy for coming to the finals or more sad because you lost to India?" I just feel it's a very very stupid question to ask.. And Malik answered "Are you making a movie?" I simply loved it.. We really don't need any more animosity between the two countries. Today's game had done a lot in helping us bridge our non-existant differences and way to go Malik!!

    Hearty Congratulations to both teams on their wonderful performances!! I enjoyed every moment of the game..

  • Saqib Rafique on September 24, 2007, 18:09 GMT

    Great game………….. very well played Pakistan. ………..Proud to be a Pakistani….we didn’t win but someone has to lose!.... Congrats to India......Pakistan better luck next time…...Thanks for such a good cricket from both sides. ............ Pakistani team deserves appreciation and warm reception on arrival

  • Syed Yorguc on September 24, 2007, 18:09 GMT

    I really appreciate what you wrote Mr. Abbasi, and it all makes sense. However, a few things that I wanted to vent out must be mentioned. Number one, the way Afridi, Younus Khan and Shoaib Malik threw away their wickets, and the shameful way by which Kamran Akmal got bowled, have to be the reasons why Pakistan lost this match. But one thing to emerge from all this is a fighting spirit that I have not seen in Pakistan teams for as long as I have been watching cricket. The seniors (through experience) have to and I mean they must learn not to give in / give up this easily. Take a leaf from Misbah's book. Patience goes a long way. Commiserations to all my fellow Pakistan cricket fans. Congratulations to India for a game well played.

  • Omair Khan on September 24, 2007, 18:09 GMT

    Amazing Final! i got very tensed even my family members when the catch was taken by Sreesanth to win the match for India. We thought Misbah was a bit unlucky to come up at the end and playing alone to win the match for Pak. Hats off to the guy for playing so well but there were mistakes by Pakistani batsemen which i think can be ignored for the sake of the great game we had to watch and many congratulations to Indian cricket team as well as Pakistani cricket team for playing wonderfully well till the end with the never say die killer attitude and for giving us the best final we could ever wish for. Thumbs up for all.

  • Omair Khan on September 24, 2007, 18:09 GMT

    Amazing Final! i got very tensed even my family members when the catch was taken by Sreesanth to win the match for India. We thought Misbah was a bit unlucky to come up at the end and playing alone to win the match for Pak. Hats off to the guy for playing so well but there were mistakes by Pakistani batsemen which i think can be ignored for the sake of the great game we had to watch and many congratulations to Indian cricket team as well as Pakistani cricket team for playing wonderfully well till the end with the never say die killer attitude and for giving us the best final we could ever wish for. Thumbs up for all.

  • Niagara on September 24, 2007, 18:09 GMT

    Good job INDIA.

  • khansahab(A.A.Khan) on September 24, 2007, 18:09 GMT

    Mr Abbasi, Firstly we must congratulate our Indian friends. India held their nerves and deserved to win. Coming onto the other side of the coin i.e. Pakistan’s defeat, it was really disappointing to see Hafeez & co go at it again. Whereas Imran Nazir’s cameo was a marvel to behold he only has himself to blame for acknowledging the run that was risky even for someone not suffering from cramps. When Malik got out something told me Pakistan have lost the match but Misbah fought until the end. However for all Misbah’s genius he played a ridiculous shot in the end when only 6 runs were needed from 4 balls. That was the last shot any sensible man would play. It shows that there is a streak of idiocy in his brain although he has been a champion this tournament for Pakistan. Sure there was a pressure cooker situation but Misbah was selected in the squad because of his calm demeanour and smart thinking. Although one might say that shot is a minor blemish, it actually stains the very qualities Misbah has impressed us with in this tournament.

    You state that Pakistan have gained much from this tournament. I am quite depressed at the result of the final and I wonder what Pakistan have gained in material terms. Every era Pakistan gain a fast bowling prodigy or two. Asif is the lead bowler at the moment and Gul may become the next best thing. Tanvir has great potential and so has Yasir. But what about Hafeez gifting his wicket to the slip fielder, or Nazir’s run out? What of Younis’s irresponsible shot, at a stage when Pakistan had just benefited from Nazir’s madness and looked on course to win comfortably? What about Akmal playing a cross batted shot on a delivery which required playing with a straight bat? Akmal has been playing for donkey’s years now, when will he learn how to bat? His time is over now and Zulqernain or Sarfraz must replace him.

    I made certain predictions for this tournament. I said that Afridi will be a key player- he won the Man of the Tournament award. I said Asif will not perform as expected and Afridi, Tanvir and Gul out performed him with the ball. I also said that Fawad Alam needs to play in every match because of him being a left hander and a utility player. Afridi should have opened because Twenty20 is his forte. I said that Hafeez will not click as opener and must be played down the order. Hence Malik’s captaincy needs to be worked upon. It was a terrible decision to send Akmal at no 3 because at that position a batsman gets confused as to whether he needs to attack or defend when an opener has been dismissed cheaply. Only a top quality player should play at no 3. Either Akmal should have opened with Fawad playing in his position or he should have just stayed at no 7.

    The future may be bright for Pakistan’s bowlers but this was a target the batsmen should have chased. Some important decisions need to be made regarding the future of Hafeez as opener, Akmal, Salman Butt and Imran Nazir. Imran Nazir can play a few shots but in the long term he has no future because of his inconsistency. I am amazed as to why he is still considered as a competent opener.

    The series against South Africa starts soon and it will be interesting to see who makes it to the Test and ODI squad. My request to the selectors would be to include as many specialists as possible for Tests because this will be a tough team to beat. For ODI’s it will be most interesting to see which all-rounders make it to the squad. Umar Gul should be made vice captain now because I don’t think Pakistan would have reached the finals had it not been for his immaculate pace bowling.

  • Nikhil Bhasker on September 24, 2007, 18:09 GMT

    What a befitting tribute to the great game. Agame that is cherished and worshiped across the two new "Super Powers of Cricket" India & Pakistan. I feel elated that India won....but I'm also happy Pakistan proved to be truely great rivals or should I say competitors. It's great time for cricket in Asia as we witnessing the revival of cricket so to say. A message to all Pakistani cricket fans "Please welcome your crcket team when the reach home...they are your heros" I have once again become a fan of Pakistan team... The match played today was played in the true spirit of the game..and both teams deserve compliments in this regard....Personally a little disappointed that Shoaib Akhtar was not a part of this tournament...I sincerely feel that the people of Pakistan should celebrate this success...The great game of cricket has won...Thanks to two good friend India & Pakistan. Kind regards....

  • Mahesh on September 24, 2007, 18:08 GMT

    That’s the moment of sprit n joy! It’s the game which fairly consists of confidence and determination. Both the team has the quality to lift the trophy. We can find lot of similarities between them (positive captains, young & enthused players, team work, etc.). So the credit goes to all the players in both the team! Hope we except some more matches like this in future!!

  • Akshay on September 24, 2007, 18:08 GMT

    I think one point on which everyone will agree is that game of cricket has won more than anything else. Well done India and Pakistan, you have done South Asia proud, Hope both teams can consolidate on this strong performance as tougher challenges lies ahead. Also a word of praise for ICC who got some serious flak after WI fiasco, deserve a pat on their back this time.

  • Faisal Qureshi on September 24, 2007, 18:07 GMT

    I foresee Crescent&Star rising again! Hats off to Pakistani team and especially Misbah. If I was in Pakistan I really would have gone personally to receive them and I hope the nation would do the same.

  • Srini on September 24, 2007, 18:06 GMT

    It was a great game and thanks to both teams for delivering wonderful performances. After watching such a close game I really felt that both teams deserve a big applause for everyone for keeping us on the toes all the times. Being an Indian fan, even I would have not felt bad if India lost also. All it is important is the attitude of the teams and I equally admire both of them. Thnaks to both teams for making my day by entertaining thorughly and looking for similar ones in future

  • Rajiv on September 24, 2007, 18:06 GMT

    Great game from two teams who struggled in the WC in West Indies.

    However, I am surprised with the statement Shoaib made "thanking muslims". In 99 WC Akram said he is happy to have lost to "brothers", referring to defeat against Bangladesh.

    Religion and politics is a personal thing and it has no place is cricket.

    I am thinking of people like Danish Kaneria and Anil Dalpat. What would they think when they hear such statements?

  • Saif Mughal on September 24, 2007, 18:06 GMT

    They did well, I'm really proud of my team, they fight till last breath. As Ravi Shastri said "The Game is Not Over yet" when 60 runs were required. Misbah started playing like a baseballer & hit sixes to Harbhajan Singh and Sohail Tanvir tried his best. In the end it was all indian show, Again misbah failed to rescue pakistan. Good Luck Pakistan for Future.

  • UM BAJWA, Islamabad on September 24, 2007, 18:06 GMT

    A NERVE-WRECKING FINAL.

    CONGRATS TO INDIA FOR WINNING AND COMMISERATIONS TO PAKISTAN FOR GIVING US A FIGHT TO REMEMBER.

    IT WAS AN ENGROSSING GAME OF CRICKET. ONLY 5 RUNS PROVED TO BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VICTORY AND DEFEAT FOR PAKISTAN/INDIA.

    PAKISTANI FANS MUST BE WONDERING ……HAD HAFEEZ HELD ON TO THE CATCH WHICH IN TURN WENT FOR A SIX……THE RESULT COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

    ANYWAYS A GOOD TREAT ALL IN ALL.

  • Ravishankar on September 24, 2007, 18:06 GMT

    Good one Mr. Abbasi!

    "Cricket was the winner" - a popular cliche...but we were made to say that again. The game was played in good spirits, and Cricket was at its competitive best when both the teams played a zig-zaw all the way until Sreesanth managed to hold that 'catch of the match'.

    India and Pakistan thoroughly deserved to be the finalists, for they beat Australia quite brilliantly and exhibited spirited batting/bowling performances one after the other.

    Being an Indian I certainly cheer for India, but I certainly felt sorry for Pakistan. But didn't we just hear some one say 'Cricket was the winner' ?

    Cheers to India & Pakistan. You have made every Cricket fan proud today.

  • BalaSenthil Kumar on September 24, 2007, 18:04 GMT

    Pakistan, you were terrific, no question about that. You had the support of Indian fans whenever you were not playing against India, have no doubt about that. You guys played like tigers, but you've got to give credit to India for coming up trumps four games in a row - England, South Africa, Australia and Pakistan put away one after the other??!! How many teams in the world can do that? MS Dhoni rocks and there is more coming from that troublemaker, make no mistake about that. In the end, the best team won, simply because right through the tournament, India have held their nerve better than anybody else. They were clear about what they wanted, and were not afraid to play with everything they had. Pakistan, you were almost there, and thank you for a fantastic T20 world cup! No reason to feel disappointed - even people who don't understand the sport would have enjoyed the way your team played.

  • Sreeni on September 24, 2007, 18:04 GMT

    Good match. Shoaib ruined the day for me though with his irresponsible comment at the end of the match -- "...I'd like to thank people back home and the Muslims around the world..."

    What the hell is that supposed to mean? He ridiculed the non-muslims in Pakistan and elsewhere who would be supporting Pakistan.

    Absolutely Stupid and inconsiderate comment to make on such a platform.

  • Tipu Khan on September 24, 2007, 18:03 GMT

    Finally something to make us proud of our team. Don't tell us you just lost again. show us (like today) that you put up a fight and lost.

  • Adnan on September 24, 2007, 18:03 GMT

    Great Final! I am like any Pakistani fan, disappointed that Pakistan did not win. But I am very proud that Pakistan got to the final and almost won it.

    I cant see why Misbah played that awful shot-when he got out- but apart from that he played very well. Congrats Indian team, even though i think Pakistan lost the game rather than India winning it. But I am very pleased with this tournament Pakistan did great.

    I felt sorry for Shoaib Malik who seemed very upset. But Inshallah Shoaib bhai will enjoy sweet sucsess in the future.

    I hope the Pakistani Public give the Pakistani team a great reception when they arrive back in Pakistan because, i think more than any one else they deserved it, They may not have physically won the trophy, but i think they won every pakistani supporters heart, as they did make me really happy!!

    I just want to end it by saying thank you to the Pakistani team, they did absoloutley great!

  • praveen on September 24, 2007, 18:03 GMT

    This was indeed a great booster for asian teams. even srilanka and bangladesh, did show that asian teams r getting geared up to challenge the likes of australia. the assuie team has lots of soul searching to do. three defeats has surely dented their confidence. happy that the game is now open and any country who plays the better cricket can upset world champions. pakistan showed that they r such a great cricketing side. kudos to them and congrats to india for winning the inagural t20.

  • Veeraraghavan on September 24, 2007, 18:02 GMT

    Well said. Both teams played superb cricket and cricket has won ultimately. I can say that both teams deserve the trophy but for the rules of the game only one can get that. Its the pressure of chasing which got the better.Its just a matter of one big hit at the last over which would have produced a different result. I like the performance of Pakistani team and really proud that it was all a subcontinent final. Hope we(India and Pakistan) dominate in future too.

  • Macjoubert on September 24, 2007, 18:02 GMT

    Will anyone from Pak care to comment on Malik's silly presentation statement? "Thanks to all nations where muslim lives and sorry we could not do it." ??As if Shah Rukh and the rest of Indian muslims support Pak!It was evident who they supported.

  • PP on September 24, 2007, 18:02 GMT

    Well written Kamran. Both teams emreged from ground in just couple of months. Congrates to India N Pakistan.

  • bali on September 24, 2007, 18:02 GMT

    This was an excellent example of Sportsmanship, and showed what a passion that these countries have for this Game. Long live the pride of this game

  • C G Nanda Kumar on September 24, 2007, 18:01 GMT

    Kamran Only one team could win and by chance, it happened to be India, but what a match! Till the last wicket fell, it could have gone either way.

    It is nice to see that the Indian subcontinent not only showed the rest of the world how classy cricket can be played, they also showed that it can be done without the sledging the so called 'top' teams indulge in.

    The spirit of the teams was almost friendly and once the match was over, we could see that both teams had genuine sportsmanship.

    Sohail and Dhoni have brought a rare team spirit in their teams and more importantly, extremely good behaviour.

    Good luck to both of them!

  • ADil on September 24, 2007, 18:01 GMT

    Wow...malik deserves a pat on the back.Dhoni,u got the cup there. But this loss can easily be forgotten for truly this is the beginnin of the rule of south asia over cricket!!!

  • Sethu on September 24, 2007, 18:01 GMT

    Good day for cricket and Asia's cricket fans. Both teams played wonderful cricket. Nail biting until the end.. Keep it up Yuvraj and Misbah. Players like Rohit, RP, Gul, Sohail needs applause. Well done INDIA and PAKISTAN for showing other teams what we could do.

  • Ahsan Rana on September 24, 2007, 18:00 GMT

    It has been a great day for cricket throughout India and Pakistan. What a game..!!!!

    I thought the player of tournament award was meant for umar gul. Any ways, well played India and equally good fighting by Pakistan.

    I seriously hope that Misbah-ul-Haq can fit in the shoes of Inzi and fill the gap.

    Way to go Pakistan..

  • Sab on September 24, 2007, 18:00 GMT

    Its been terrific cricket from sub-continent teams. I thought - Aussie under rated other teams and was made to pay the price for it. Congrats to Malik. Pakistan has found composed captain and he definitely has a good cricketing brain and leads the team from front with telling performance. Way to Go. Three players shone for Pakisthan Misbah-Ul-Haq & Tanvir find out the tournament. Umar Gul sharing the spear heading responsiblity after shoab akthar.

  • Rizwana Ali on September 24, 2007, 18:00 GMT

    Just want to say congratulations India!! and well done Pakistan!! Two teams together bought us all Nail biting cricket. My hat goes of to Misbah You did us all Proud!! Inshallah Pakistan will become a much stronger team. I would like to thank the Pakistani Team and wish them the best of luck!! My duas are with you!!!

  • suvendu on September 24, 2007, 18:00 GMT

    Well said indeed Mr.Abbasi. Though I am a die hard Indian cricket fan and praying badly India to win the game in that last over, but somewhere in some corner of my heart I felt sorry for Misbah. What a player. As they say in this stage temparament is what matters...and this guy has got all of that.Cricket has indeed won at the end. I can only hope Pak players should get a hero's welcome back home. We the subcontinental people are so obssesed with the stars ( sachin, sourabh, Shoaib etc), we forget to appreciate the sportsmen...these youngster have shown what team spirit can do. Long live Indian and pakistan cricket, Amin....

  • Nauman on September 24, 2007, 17:59 GMT

    Great game, great tournament, great win for India, they probably deserved it one little bit more than Pakistan, they probably held on to their nerves one little bit better than Pakistan. Nothing to take away from Misbah for his great show throughout the tournament, but its winners who take it all, today it were India, so congrats to them. This tournament has been a refreshing change in Pakistan's cricket environment. For all reasons, good or bad, we managed to field in a "fit" unit on the field and the energy of the lads was always on the show. The bowling was outstanding, although Gul & Afridi led the stats, but more important was how each bowler was presented with a particular role and how they all worked to deliver. Batting was sluggish at the top but solid in the middle, which led to Pakistan being invincible throughout the tournament (You pay me a million dollars and I would still not accept bowl-out as a legitimate way to decide a cricket match, its simply not cricket a very cheap effort, the lowest point of this tournament and 20/20 format in my eyes). One suggestion that I must make. Since Kamran Akmal is not the best wicket-keeper in the world and Younis is least interested in being the captain of the side, I think we should have put him behind the stumps for Kamran, and instead played another extra batsman, Yousuf would have been my pick. Pakistan's top 3 (Hafeez, Imran, Salman and later on Kamran) were always going to be weak, it would have served some stability and consistency had Yousuf be playing at number 3, if you dont trust me then just look at the semi-final game where Shoaib Malik's presence during the opening stand just as a runner was such a calming influence.

  • INZI on September 24, 2007, 17:59 GMT

    The game of cricket has NOT won today. India DID, and Pakistan LOST due to an disgraceful performance by mizbah-ul-Haq who after coming so close snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. The pakistani team has betrayed its country by losing to India. It is better that they exit in the first round then disgrace themself against India TWICE. ALl the players must be reprimanded, especially misbah who is a complete DISGRACE

  • navdeep on September 24, 2007, 17:59 GMT

    Congratz to men in Blue....itz more than skills...intelligent boyz beat idiots today....all pakistanis r bloody idiots.....

  • Harsh Surana on September 24, 2007, 17:58 GMT

    Misbah ul haq: Misbah has shown that he still has a lot of cricket left in him. This man has been ignored for so many years even when he was the top scorer in the pakistani domestic circuit. He single handedly won matches for pakistan in this tournament and kept its hopes alive in todays final match also. I am surprised that a talent like him was sidelined for so many years. I just hope he plays for pakistan till the next world cup as it is a treat to watch such a wonderful individual like misbah. He is so much in similar to Abdur Razzaq who i feel should have been playing for his country.

  • Arjun Rangarajan on September 24, 2007, 17:58 GMT

    What an absolutely incredible game it was.I cant even remember the number of times the match swung back and forth.How fitting that the final was played between the two best sides of the tournament,added to which it was an India-Pakistan encounter!I'm still catching my breath from the excitement.Congratulations to both india and pakistan on an excellant match and thanks for all the entertainment from them both throughout the tournament!The best part was having both india and pakistan in the final..keep the cup in asia!

  • Uday on September 24, 2007, 17:57 GMT

    Congratulations to both India and Pakistan for two great games, once in the earlier round and again in the final. Both teams played like champions and it was unfortunate that one of them had to lose today. Pakistan had the game in their hands in the last over, but they should not blame Misbah-ul-Haq. After all, he was the one who brought them so close. Anyway, there are no losers when two teams play with their hearts and fight to the close! Very well done, the entire subcontinent is now very proud.

  • Falgun Dave on September 24, 2007, 17:57 GMT

    Absolutely fantastic to see two rivals with such a rich heritage battle it out with so much vigour, zest and enthusiasm! Terrific match!!! Jeet gaya bhai jeet gaya... India Jeet Gaya! Congratulations to the new World Champions!

  • gugu on September 24, 2007, 17:56 GMT

    Well played match. Congrats to India and no shame to Pakistan. Dr. Abbasi hope your unconditional support for boom boom ends here. Also, one of Gul or Misbah were more worthy winners for player of the tournament.

  • Cricket Fan on September 24, 2007, 17:55 GMT

    I was very disappointed with Sohaib Malik's statement during the presentation ceremony which implied that he had support of Pakistani people and rest of the Muslim world. Was he implying that Pakistan-India match was between Muslims and non-Muslims? Was he thinking that Muslims in India, Bangladesh, England, Australia and South Africa would support Pakistan than their own national team? Before the final also Sohaib said - he thinks Pakistan would win because this is holy month of Ramzaan etc... Not sure why these Pakistani players want to drag religion into game of Cricket which has nothing to do with religion... Why?

  • b on September 24, 2007, 17:55 GMT

    fantastic match... great find in misbah

  • Jitendra on September 24, 2007, 17:55 GMT

    As Ramiz Raja mentioned the game of cricket won today! What a nail-biting finish. I think this bodes well for India and Pakistan cricket, as they were playing young teams led by young captain. Its good to get rid of those slow old-hogs. Terrific comeback for both teams after the early exits from the ODI world cup. The younger teams made us really proud today, for such exciting games.... Congrats to both India and Pakistan!

  • Ananth on September 24, 2007, 17:54 GMT

    Congratulations to both teams!Way to go India...As much as I loved the Indian win,my heart goes out for Misbah!Wonderful Innings under pressure.I liked the way afridi spoke,great sport!!

  • saif ahmed on September 24, 2007, 17:54 GMT

    All said and done I still feel, Yousuf could have made the difference. The change in batting order baffles me. Why on earth you would want to send an out of form, no good 'kamran Akmal' at one down. It only created unnecessary pressure, in a nerve wrecking encounter. Afridi once again lost the mind game against another pathan, like he always does. I may be wrong but I feel he should been sent up in the order. Misbah could not hold on to nerves when it was so close, time for him to learn a lesson or two. Overall the put up a good show, Conragts!

  • Faraz Ahmed Siddiqui on September 24, 2007, 17:54 GMT

    First of all I would like to congratulate India for winning the final and of course pakistan as well being a runner up. But let me tell you, this is the batting who let us down once again and I don't think so Pakistan can win any big tournament without fixing it. You can review the tournament, Pakistan's batting was never up to the mark and without improving it, it's like you are depending totally on luck but not on talent and skills.

  • SR on September 24, 2007, 17:54 GMT

    Great match today. Congrats to India for wining the world cup.

  • Furhad Yaqubian on September 24, 2007, 17:54 GMT

    The is an old adage which says " It is better to lose well, than to win badly". This is exactly what happened to Pakistan today. Pakistan's dream slipped - when it was almost there! The team played very well right thru' the tournment and this was a credit to the new Captain, the Coach and the players who seemed to be playing for each other and their country. Despite the loss, the cricket team and Pakistan can hold their heads high. The South African tour is near and one can only hope they carry this spirit into this tour and to the tour of India. It would be fun to beat the Indians in India and bring their team back to earth.

    I would NOT play Younis Khan in the shorter version of the game as he is a definite liability. This " highly talented but non-productive" individual is NOT meant for this form of the game. Maybe, Pakistan played a batsman short today, but hindsight is 20/20. Let us look ahead to a bright future and take victory and defeat - these two imposters in stride. That said, well done and better luck next time Pakistan!

    Furhad Yaqubian Toronto, Canada

  • Sarah, Karachi - Pakistan on September 24, 2007, 17:53 GMT

    Same BS....not opening with AFRIDI...PAKISTAN WILL LOSE !

  • Balu Padmanabhan on September 24, 2007, 17:53 GMT

    Players of both teams put in their best effort, and cricket was the final winner. However, I was quite sad to hear Shoaib Malik bringing religion into his acceptance speech. Religion should not play any part sports.

  • Harsh Surana on September 24, 2007, 17:52 GMT

    First i would like to congratulate the National team on this historic victory over pakistan. This indeed was a splendid team performance by the team which over the past has suffered the ire and criticism of the entire nation over commitement issues. Today will be rememebered by each and every indian supporter as they have created history. I would also like to congratulate the Pakistan National team on their efforts and would like to specially mention Misbah Ul Haq, he has been by far the best player in the tournament who has single handedly won matches for his country. He played like a tiger today. I hope he gets credit for his performace in tis tournament. Dhoni seems to be good but the australia series will be a real tester, hope the senior players support him. All said it has been a great tournament and t20 concept is exciting. Hope we get to see more of it in the near future.

  • mk on September 24, 2007, 17:52 GMT

    It is time to be generous, I know, especially in close run match. But do not take this moment to savor away from India fans. Cricket may also have won, but India are the champions.....

  • Chandru on September 24, 2007, 17:52 GMT

    Very well said Abbasi. Both teams fully deserve our compliments.After one sided affair in the last decade in all major tournaments with Australia winning every thing on the plate , this match will surely give much needed boost to the south asian countries, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Well played Dhoni and Mallik and the two teams. Also happy to see mutual respect between the two teams. This is after all a game and only one team can win the trophy. But, both the teams have won the hearts of over one billion south asians by the way they fought it out till the very end.

  • Mansur on September 24, 2007, 17:52 GMT

    The game reached its climax today. It can't get better than this. The two rivals once again proved they are the Knights of this game. Cricket itself won today. Congratulations to both teams.

  • Faraz on September 24, 2007, 17:52 GMT

    India WON...because Pakistan managment and coach can't seem to realize that Butt and Hafeez are USELESS as openers...why did Afridi not opened? why send in Kamran Akmal at one down? stupid decisions...

    India deserved to WIN ! not because they played better...but because Pakistan cricket is run by MORONS!

  • Haroon on September 24, 2007, 17:52 GMT

    Pakistan didnt win,India didnt win...Twenty20 format is the winner...this thing is definitely staying...congratuliations to India on winning it but you guys have to admit it was a close thing...just 6 needed off 4 balls...Misbah's thinking was good but just cudnt connect it...stars of the tournament without doubt Umar Gul,Sohail Tanvir,Misbah Ul Haq,Shoaib Malik with his batting n captaincy,Dhoni for his captaincy,Yuvraj Singh,Gautam Ghambir,the rejuvenated Irfan Pathan and a talented RP Singh!!!

  • Wasim on September 24, 2007, 17:51 GMT

    Well done pakistan and Mr ul Haq what performance he put in this tournement (malik,Gul, afridi to).

    however I have one question why do are former bowlers go over to india and help their bowlers to learn how to bowl (pathan, Zaheer)??? I dont see Indian batsman coming over to help are top order batsman, do you!!

  • chakri on September 24, 2007, 17:51 GMT

    First of-all congrates for India & Pakistan for entertaining us with lovely cricket.I would like to appreciate Dhoni for his stupendous Captainship, the ship which brought back the cup to 'Win'ndia. Now the team is progressing day-by-day without a disturbing & disrupting coach. As per as my knowledge 'Win'dia doesn't coach other than Robin singh and Venkates prasad. Its great moment's going-on-on-on,& on our streets. We are enjoying due to your efforts Dhoni and your army of Warriors. Once again congrates to every one who made us happy.

  • Junaid Manzoor on September 24, 2007, 17:51 GMT

    Congratulation to Pakistan and Indian cricket team to give us a match to remember. Twenty20 rules and we hope to see more such tournaments in future. An afterthought, should we bring back the likes of Shoaib Akhtar and Yousof Youhana back in the Pakistani side?

  • SUMIT SINGH on September 24, 2007, 17:50 GMT

    WHO is gona rockaa lyk dis..........yehhh....INDIA.....WE done it ...n v done it bravely....so cheerssss 4 india.....n say all 2gether...chak de india......

  • Talal khawaja on September 24, 2007, 17:50 GMT

    Whatever Misbah did in this 20/20 cup was great but what he did in the last over overshadowed eveything ..this is where experience comes into play ..this where selectors need to think big game big players

  • ad on September 24, 2007, 17:50 GMT

    please tell shoaib malik..that religion has no place in sports...his comments were in poor taste...particularly in a final against india..whose team consists of muslims, sikhs, christians and hindus...whose players have inter-religion marriages....what does he mean by saying he has the support of all the muslims in the world..please explain...

  • Parminder Dhillon on September 24, 2007, 17:50 GMT

    Both teams need to be comgratulated for providing the whole of the crickting world with a fitting final. Clearly the game pf cricket is bigger then any cricket playing nation and bigger then any rivalry friendly or otherwise between cricket playing nations and the real winner today is the game of cricket,followed by the exhuberance of youth and the bold and calm captaincy of two of the youngest captains of test playing nations.

    Looking forward to the test and one day series between these two neighbours . I'm sure it'll be played in the right spirit as the games in this competeition and may the waheguru bless both the teams and their fans worldwide.

  • Nadeem Qureshi on September 24, 2007, 17:49 GMT

    Congratulations to the Indian team, and to the Pakistan team for completing a wonderful tournament. I agree with the sentiments expressed above: The Pakistan team has earned a warm reception, and the players have all won our hearts. Mistakes were made, and perhaps this and that could have been done better, which will always be the case - win or lose. The fact remains that these boys played their heart out, gave it their best, and came out tops. They might have lost final - by a whisker as it stands - but they made it to the final, and they won us all over.

  • linpaws on September 24, 2007, 17:49 GMT

    A tremendous game of cricket. Both teams were deserving of the victory, but India held their nerves at the end. I agree with Maher, that it was a strange decision to give Afridi the man of the series. Not sure what that was based on. I think Yuvraj Singh was instrumental in getting India to the finals. My man of the series would have been Dhoni for the way he handled the team and for the contributions he made as a captain!

  • amar on September 24, 2007, 17:47 GMT

    congratulations to both the teams..it is only of academic interest that india won and pakistan lost. if it were any other team apart from india, i am sure i would have been rooting for pakistan

  • Murad Khan on September 24, 2007, 17:47 GMT

    Well said Kamran. No better final than India and Pakistan match decided in last over! In future, though, teams will have to chosen really carefully for T20. The frenetic pace at which the game is played means players like Yuonis Khan are do not fit in. In retrospect Fawad Alam would have been a far better choice. If Younis had to be played he should have come at No 3 instead to sending Kamran Akmal. The player of the tournament for me was Misbah ul Haq. What composure, what shot selection (except the last one)and what middling of the ball. He was superb in most of the games and should be retained for all types of matches (ODIs, T20, Tests) for as long as he can play.

  • Murad Khan on September 24, 2007, 17:47 GMT

    Well said Kamran. No better final than India and Pakistan match decided in last over! In future, though, teams will have to chosen really carefully for T20. The frenetic pace at which the game is played means players like Yuonis Khan are do not fit in. In retrospect Fawad Alam would have been a far better choice. If Younis had to be played he should have come at No 3 instead to sending Kamran Akmal. The player of the tournament for me was Misbah ul Haq. What composure, what shot selection (except the last one)and what middling of the ball. He was superb in most of the games and should be retained for all types of matches (ODIs, T20, Tests) for as long as he can play.

  • Muhammad Usman Aslam on September 24, 2007, 17:46 GMT

    I'm proud of the Men in Green.... the indians played well but overall we were awesome at times... the spirit.. the fightback was cool.

    Otherwise, WE ARE WITH YOU THE MEN IN GREEN !!

  • usama murtaza on September 24, 2007, 17:46 GMT

    amazing match as it is always the case with india and pakistan... i am truly pleased with the effort put forth by the pakistani team and i urge fans to give this team a warm welcome when they return becuz it has been a truly outstanding tournament for pakistan. Misbah has been a revelation and to be honest i was one of those ppl who questioned his selection... he proved me wrong and i hope inshallah that he stays in the pakistan squad for years to come... bright days lie in front inshallah and hopefully with yousuf back... pakistan can be a formidable unit and will be able to compete against the best in the world... well played india and pakistan... brilliant shoaib malik and job well done umar gul

  • Aarif on September 24, 2007, 17:46 GMT

    Congrats to India. Pakistani bowlers did well but once again almost all the batsmen (except Misbah) failed. The shortest version of the game still cannot hide the fact that Pakistan has a huge batting problem. Except for Misbah none of the batsmen were consistent. Salman Butt (Vice captain) was not able to muster a single good inning and finally was dropped. The rest played either one or two good innings in the whole tournament. Why can't we find any one else in whole of Pakistan to replace the likes of Salman Butt, Imran Nazir, Imran Farhat & Taufiq Umar who have failed again and again and again. For last 2-3 years these are the batsmen we have recycled again and again. Making Salman Butt the vice captain speaks volumes, how deep the problem is. Upcoming South African and Indian series will expose how brittle the pakistani batting line up is. The ever declining performance of Kamran Akmal is just compounding the problems. Bowlers and some luck did take us to the final but for how long?

  • Shiraz, Houston, TX on September 24, 2007, 17:45 GMT

    I saw the game and this is what I have to say...

    Please for the LOVE OF ALLAH...OPEN WITH AFRIDI...he is useless in the end and can use the fieldng restrictions to the MAX benefit in ODI's and 2020..i mean we should have WON this...what is wrong with the Pakistan management and captain...it is sooooo bloody obvious.

    DROP SALMAN BUTT....BRING BACK YASIR HAMEED....OPEN WITH AFRIDI...COMEON !!!!!

  • Harit Shah on September 24, 2007, 17:45 GMT

    I fully agree - at the end of the game, it is the game that has won!! Of course, heartiest congratulations to India for what was undoubtedly a fabulous victory and hats off to Pakistan for what was truly a wonderful, fighting performance! They can truly hold their heads high and they have undoubtedly given their 100%. I am really happy to see how successful this tournament has been, it has truly been a great advertisement for the game and cricket's greatest rivals have been right at the centre of if, justifiably so!

  • Chary on September 24, 2007, 17:45 GMT

    Well said Kamal. It was a great cricket and both the captains should be congratulated for providing a great entertainment. I am happy that it was all the sub-continent in the finals knocking off Australia and South Africa. Both the Pakistan and India teams have great youngsters and that is needed for this type of cricket. Both teams have wonderful future and I feel that these two teams are going to be very strong in the near future.

  • Sudheesh on September 24, 2007, 17:44 GMT

    What a final! What a match! India made it through in the end, but only just. The young Indian team should be proud of its achievements. The 50 over game would be a bit different with teams like Australia and South Africa having more time to assert their dominance over lengthier period. That said, nothing can take away the accomplishment of this young Indian and Pakistani teams. They showed a lot of courage and self-belief.

    Congratulations especially to the Pakistani team for the fight they provided till the very end. Some of your team members have shown the spirit that tigers would be proud of! Well done.

    From An Indian

  • Hatim on September 24, 2007, 17:44 GMT

    Well said game of cricket has Won.. i bet it would not have been even 10% of excitment what its was if Australia would have made to the final.. India Pakistan are arc rival and they proved in both the matches they played.. I bet more than half the people would have bitten there nails off their fingers in the match

  • WASIM SAQIB on September 24, 2007, 17:44 GMT

    In my last post I hoped that who so ever wins is not that important but the match should go down to wire and live up to the expectations of a billion people, we did witnessed one of the most exciting and nerve wrenching thriller of recent times but the sad part is that Pakistan lost the match mainly because of a poor batting display, after restricting India to a low score Pakistan lost two early wickets but the real damage was done b Younis Khan who first played a maiden Over and then ran his partner Imran Nazir out it was almost Déjà vu as in one of the previous matches he ran Kamran Akmal out and then threw away his wicket there was no need for that cheeky single as Imran was struggling out there because of his injury, he clearly slowed down the momentum of Pakistan team and a few overs latter he got out to a horrible shot, for me Pakistan lost the match right over there, "Bravo Younis Khan you did it again".

    Then came Shoaib Malik he lost his wicket trying to accelerate the run rate, I know a lot of guys are waiting to take on him after this match but hats off to his leadership so far we have won 9 out of 12 matches under him, Shoaib you did a wonderful job keep it up.

    After Shoaib came Afridi who was due for a performance with the bat especially because of all the hue & cry and Nakhre Baazi that he should bat up the order he got out first ball playing a reckless shot not caring much about the situation and perfectly in line with his 1 /10 success ratio, anyways I won't say much about him as Afridi excelled with the ball his overall performance was good.

    During all this mayhem Misbah on the other hand kept his cool and kept on rotating the strike he almost brought us close to victory but got out to a reckless shot, but hats off to him he has nerves of steel and IMO he should not be blamed for the dismal performance of others if Pakistan had not lost so many wickets he could have played the game differently.

    I think Younis khan is the only guy left behind in the team from the old Mafia he should be shown the door in the limited over game. Before the tournament started I warned in one of my posts that he is the weakest link in the team and he has proved me right.

    I know certain guys will try to criticize Shoaib for not including Fawad Alam in the team; he will become one of those players who get instant hero status without playing and just because where he is from.

  • bottom line on September 24, 2007, 17:44 GMT

    Bottom line is India has won because they can handle pressure better than Pakistan. As for Pakistan, seem to wilt under pressure everytime against India and start making mistakes. Today inspite of all the help from Harbhajan and Sree Sunth they could not win. I think Harbhajan's refusal to bowl the last over tilted the balance for India because he would have conceded the runs in 3 balls.

  • bottom line on September 24, 2007, 17:44 GMT

    Bottom line is India has won because they can handle pressure better than Pakistan. As for Pakistan, seem to wilt under pressure everytime against India and start making mistakes. Today inspite of all the help from Harbhajan and Sree Sunth they could not win. I think Harbhajan's refusal to bowl the last over tilted the balance for India because he would have conceded the runs in 3 balls.

  • Sathya on September 24, 2007, 17:43 GMT

    Congratulations to both India and Pakistan for playing in such a cracker of a contest. "It's not over until it's over", Yogi Berra quote ringing in my head during the last few overs of the match, especially with Pakistan playing the match. Pakistan was fablous during entire tournament and I wouldn't have minded had they won it this time and thats saying somthing when it comes from a rabid cricket fan from India. Even though one team is crowned as champion, both teams played like champions. Misbah, you were incredible after taking all the flak. ( Better luck next time finishing the matches).

  • Sathya on September 24, 2007, 17:43 GMT

    Congratulations to both India and Pakistan for playing in such a cracker of a contest. "It's not over until it's over", Yogi Berra quote ringing in my head during the last few overs of the match, especially with Pakistan playing the match. Pakistan was fablous during entire tournament and I wouldn't have minded had they won it this time and thats saying somthing when it comes from a rabid cricket fan from India. Even though one team is crowned as champion, both teams played like champions. Misbah, you were incredible after taking all the flak. ( Better luck next time finishing the matches).

  • Khurram on September 24, 2007, 17:42 GMT

    Well Well Well !! Pakistan did lose the match but won the heart, it reminds me of another 5 Run lose against same team in Karachi in 2004. No shame in the result but the way we lost the wickets was very bad, for me turn around was a lazy work by Imran Nazir who was playing like tiger but his laziness costed pakistan badly, I agree he was not 100% fit but then again why was he not running in straight line, he would have made the run easily.... any how.. Welldone Pakistan, we will switch our TV's agian when you turn up against South Africa and cheer you with same zeal. Wish you all the best, you really deserve the pat on the back, Wel played India too... Congratulations... three cheers for Pakistan...

  • wasif on September 24, 2007, 17:42 GMT

    bottom line is: Pakistan lost! oh how it could have been different with Abdul Razzak and Yousuf in the team...we shall never know. We needed an experienced head in such thrillers. When will we learn?

  • Sathya on September 24, 2007, 17:42 GMT

    Congratulations to both India and Pakistan for playing in such a cracker of a contest. "It's not over until it's over", Yogi Berra quote ringing in my head during the last few overs of the match, especially with Pakistan playing the match. Pakistan was fablous during entire tournament and I wouldn't have minded had they won it this time and thats saying somthing when it comes from a rabid cricket fan from India. Even though one team is crowned as champion, both teams played like champions. Misbah, you are incredible after taking all the flak. ( Better luck next time finishing the matches).

  • india fan on September 24, 2007, 17:42 GMT

    I hope that the Pakistan team is greeted as champions when they return home. They have played with intelligence and purpose throughout the tournament, and seemed like the only team that knew what it was doing all along. Misbah was exceptional. The bowling was near perfect. Unfortunately someone has to win, and today India was the lucky side. I am hoping that the Twenty20 cup points at the shape of things to come. Australia on a slow decline and the subcontinent on the rise, thanks to some gutsy young blood.

  • Naeem ur Rehman, Birmingham, England on September 24, 2007, 17:41 GMT

    Full Marks to Malik and his boys! I'm extremely impressed with Misbah, what a fighter he has proven himself, keep up the hard work and chin up please, you have made us proud out there. I have no doubt that this team will go places and I would like to request the nation to welcome them with open arms, they are all heroes. Does anyone know how to send a fan mail to Misbah and Malik as they really need that right now! If there is such thing as 'luck' exists then I would say we were beaten by that today. I'm also very glad that two subcontinent teams were in the final, no Aussies for a change and I'm sure there won't be any for a long time to come and in all forms of the game.

    Well done PAKISTAN!

  • bottom line on September 24, 2007, 17:41 GMT

    India is reaping the benefits of the foundation laid by their formed coach Greg Chapell. His policy of trusting the youth has paid off. His knowledge and coaching technique has put India where it is now. Since India has not appointed a new coach yet, it is Greg Chapell who gets the credit as coach for this victory.

  • Murali on September 24, 2007, 17:40 GMT

    Very balanced comments. Both Pakistan and India have given this part of the sub-continent great entertainment. In the end one has to win and the other loose that should not take away anything from the looser. Both teams have come out winners especially after their quick exit from the World cup. Given the excitement this sub-continent generates for the love of this game it is just enough that both teams were the finalists.

  • Khurram on September 24, 2007, 17:39 GMT

    Well done Pakistan and India. Just got off the phone consoling my younger brother and I want to say to all my fellow cricket lovers. The real survivor is not the one who never loses, it's the one who gets up after being knocked down or the one who never gives up. We have lots of positives from the tournament, e.g.Misbah did a great hand, Gul has reached the next level and now is the time to back the young Pakistan side, if one point fingers or gets sad, the next time these 2 teams play, Pakistani boys will feel even more pressure and the will fear losing. Just give 100%,like they did and forget about result. By the way congrats to Malik and Lawson who were also very brave and forthcoming including dropping Butt(rightly so, the guy is misfit in ODIs, bad athelete) and playing Tanveer instead of Rao thru out,,,,Well done for backing the talent, be Bold. Well, done Pakistan, for making all of us proud.Congrats to India!!

  • Awas on September 24, 2007, 17:39 GMT

    Yes, definitely a valiant effort. Misbah played wonderfully again and got us so close but what a shame couldn’t cross the line once again!!! After our bowlers had done a good job, the target was gettable but some silly shot selection by batsmen made an easy task look so difficult. Rub of the green definitely went with India. Pakistan at least took it to the wire. So, credit to them and congratulations to India. All those who had been talking about auspiciousness of this month including Shoaib Malik should realise it had nothing to do with cricket.

  • Vishwa N on September 24, 2007, 17:38 GMT

    Good show by both Pakistan and India. Definitely, the game of cricket won here. There were many candidates worthy of the 'man of the match' award - Umar Gul, Pathan and G.Gambhir. But most of all, I would award it to Misbah for taking Pak so close to victory after they were 6 wickets down.

  • Shyam on September 24, 2007, 17:38 GMT

    yeah great match though just one thing, what a stupid comment by shoaib malik about muslims all over the world supporting pakistan. No offense but why do pakistanis have to bring religion into everything. What does religion have to do with sport? Dont we have enough crazed bigots on either side? Irfan and Yusuf Pathan are muslims in the Indian team and Irfan was the Indian hero. That comment just left a bitter aftertaste in the mouth after a great performance by both teams.

  • joel on September 24, 2007, 17:37 GMT

    hey all im an indian... but i still feel dat WE won de cup.. WE in de sense india and pak 2gther won de cup... cheers ppl well playd awwwsssuuummm matchh too gud cricket and hats off to misbah ul haq wat a dude... de way he kept his cool i tink he shud hav been de man of de match SerioUSly!!!

  • jacks on September 24, 2007, 17:37 GMT

    Well said Kamran. In the end, only cricket mattered, and no matter who won or lost, the other side just looked a little better. This big fanfare that India has won all it's encounters against Pakistan will end some day. Like Dhoni said, one cannot take the first win for granted. For sure, cricket is not all about luck, it involves spirit and sportsmanship.

  • Shailesh on September 24, 2007, 17:35 GMT

    I am glad that India has won a major tournament without, that too without some of their big guns.....

    Please greet the Pakistani team as Heroes when they arrive back..they tried their best and it could have gone any way..

  • Roger on September 24, 2007, 17:35 GMT

    Great game. Well played both sides - the sport was victorious.

  • IK on September 24, 2007, 17:34 GMT

    Well said Mr. Abbasi!

    But I was expecting a comment on Malik's post-match comment "First of all I'd like to thank people back home and the Muslims around the world..." and failure of both Mr. Dhoni and Mr. Malik to congratulate each other?

  • harish on September 24, 2007, 17:34 GMT

    east or west cricket is best and sport has won so as india

    Pakistan had but nice fight and terrific performance by both

    Jai hind

  • ARshad on September 24, 2007, 17:34 GMT

    India will win... Pakistan will win... India will win... Pakistan will win... India on top again... Pakistan must win... India Won...!

    These were the comments from all around me, what a game. Thanks to Dhoni Malik et al. for providing such entertainment.

    Being from the Pak side of the fence, I cant beleive Misbah (who was excellent throughout) played that shot with five needed off 4 balls, surely Joginder would have served up another six ball being a part time bowler.

    Enjoy India for Pakistan will take the honours next time.

  • mdg on September 24, 2007, 17:34 GMT

    After humiliating defeats in World Cup, India and Pakistan both came hard on other Teams in T20 WC and results are here!

    Congrats Team India - Winners Congrats Team Pakistan - Runners Up...

  • sandeep on September 24, 2007, 17:34 GMT

    plz dont mistake me i am not a paki hater but shoiab malik is disgrace !!! why did he have spoil the whole mood by saying sorry to all muslim s of the world so where does tht leave his team mate danish kaneria in the equation pity !!!

  • Amecha on September 24, 2007, 17:34 GMT

    Funny how Pak captain thinks his team played for all the muslims in the world! I sure hope that is not the kind of message PCB wants to send or does it?

  • SrIkanth on September 24, 2007, 17:34 GMT

    Being an Indian I'm obviously proud of the young team and their victory. That being said This final could have gone to Pakistan. Very Well Played Pakistan (and India). I was very sad When Malik apologised to his Fans and that they gave everything they had. Basing on what I see from these posts...I dont think he needed to apologise, so great are Pakisthani fans. They obviously saw how hard their team fought.

    A word of caution to both teams, yes you did really really well in this tourney. But dont get carried away. Work even harder. If both teams keep up this intensity Australia will no longer be the world champion.

  • MG on September 24, 2007, 17:33 GMT

    It was a superb match, and while as an India supporter I am happy at the outcome, Pakistan played brilliantly in this tournament and this is one of the cases where the "winner take all" formula seems a bit unfair: the honours were evenly split. A tie would have been a more accurate reflection of the performances of the teams (although then there would be the silly bowl-out business). Looking forward to the exploits of the younger generation of cricketers in the subcontinent for years to come and may our rivalry be restricted to cricket only. Watch out Australia!!

  • Amrutansh on September 24, 2007, 17:33 GMT

    Well said good Sir! I think victory starved fans in the sub-continent put a lot of importance on the result and miss out on recognizing the effort put in by the players. I think both teams played some exhilarating cricket and should be lauded for providing such high quality entertainment.

    I would also like to censure both the captains ever so gently: Malik had no reason to say what he said at the presentation ceremony (explicit apologies to Muslims around the world!), and Dhoni and Co. should have invited Malik and Co to do a lap of honor with them; there is no shame in losing after such an effort.

    Apart from this I think great comeback by these teams that were written off by Ian Chappel!

    Well played!

    Best, Amrutansh

  • buddy shah on September 24, 2007, 17:32 GMT

    Good comments fully agree. However, the only thing which was bit sad was the racklessness of few batsman soecially younis khan and the decission to send kamran ahead of misbah and afridi cost us the match. we should take defats gracefully but the hunger to win should not die every defeat should pain the team and five out five hats off to idian team. this time even ramadan prayers could not help us need more efforts i guess.

  • VAN on September 24, 2007, 17:32 GMT

    It's all very well to dish out joint praise to both India and Pakistan. But the point is, India won because they played to a plan and stuck to the plan. Pakistan appeared to hinge on a fair bit of individual effort. What distinguishes this Indian team from others is that no one player is the fulcrum. Sehwag can't play? Gambhir will do it. Get Yuvraj and Dhoni out? Others will take their place. This is the difference between India and Pakistan. The team plays as a team and the whole is much, much greater than the sum of the parts.

    And this is the lesson that both Pakistan and India have to learn, going forward.

  • VAN on September 24, 2007, 17:32 GMT

    It's all very well to dish out joint praise to both India and Pakistan. But the point is, India won because they played to a plan and stuck to the plan. Pakistan appeared to hinge on a fair bit of individual effort. What distinguishes this Indian team from others is that no one player is the fulcrum. Sehwag can't play? Gambhir will do it. Get Yuvraj and Dhoni out? Others will take their place. This is the difference between India and Pakistan. The team plays as a team and the whole is much, much greater than the sum of the parts.

    And this is the lesson that both Pakistan and India have to learn, going forward.

  • Shirish on September 24, 2007, 17:32 GMT

    I have to point out that India's victory was alomst Australian for its precision and manner. 'Cometh the hour, cometh the man' is very much how Australia have been the winning team of the last 2 decades. In this tournament, India had different heroes in each game, with Uthappa starting it off, RP singh, Harbhajan, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Rohit Sharma, Gambhir, Sehwag, Irfan Pathan, Sreesanth all starring in at least one game. As a team, India are the biggest winners, as this group played like the team we only dream of.

  • Manjunath on September 24, 2007, 17:32 GMT

    Nice article and I like the way both teams played throughout the tournament. For me both India and Pakistan are winners of this tournament. Coming from World Cup defeat and being under dogs all along that's one nice show from both teams. Captains held their nerve and their teams showed 100% commitment and dedication. If the winning target was over 10 I would say India won it but the last over showed us why this match is so important for both teams (not countries) playing without their so called seniors. Best of luck Pakistan and well done India. It's one hell of a show both teams proved that there is fire in sub continent and it's going to be really fun watching Australia and so called Masters of Twenty20 (England) getting out of tournaments in group stage in future tournaments.

  • Ruchir Sanghavi on September 24, 2007, 17:31 GMT

    Hats off to this sport, in the end it did not matter who won this competition, the cake was already there with India vs Pakistant Grand Finale, winning it would me the iceing on the top! Excellent cricket by India and Pakistan, no one could have scripted it better!

  • Arsalan on September 24, 2007, 17:31 GMT

    A memorable final one can say. Rightly said Mr. Kamran, Its Cricket that won today, or we may proudly say, Its Sub-Continent Cricket that won today.

    This tournament will not-only boost the moral of both the teams' players, but also will bring a new ray of hope in the fans of Sub-Continent. Congratulations India for such a great performance & Congrats Pakistan for fighting like a team till the end.

  • Cousik on September 24, 2007, 17:31 GMT

    I'm glad for Pakistan to have put behind Shoaib's incident behind and all other issues and played like a team with no bad baggage.They've had many great stars in the past, now is the time to fit into the groove.India and Pakistan deserve the position as 1 and 2 in this tournament after the debacle in the world cup. Finally the game won.

  • Omer on September 24, 2007, 17:31 GMT

    Great tournament and fitting ending. Would have been nicer if Pakistan was on the winning end being a Paksitani. But Indians played great cricket. Young team energetic close knit no big heroes and no big ego's.

    Have to give 10 out of 10 marks to Pakistan team. Malik's wonderful captaincy and humbleness played major role in success. When was the last time you saw a captain apologizing to the nation after losing and even after performing so well through out the tournament with this young team. Misbah really earned my respect cool and calm and clinical i wish he learns how to finish it off in the future to be with the greats like Steve Waugh, Javed, Etc and not to be named choker. Bowling everyone did well Gul, Tanvir, Asif and everyone. Teams looks different outfit with Shoaib not in team without the inflated egos.

    Though i wish Result was different but cricket was the winner in the game.

  • Umer Mansoor on September 24, 2007, 17:31 GMT

    chokers... choked in the end... im very disappointed...

  • Khan on September 24, 2007, 17:30 GMT

    Very very well played pakistan team,u made us proud and u deserve a warm welcome on arrival, Proud to be a Pakistani

  • Abdullah on September 24, 2007, 17:30 GMT

    Had Pakistan won the final, I would have written something else, may be something in their favor. But after this loss, I would ask my favorite player Shahid Afridi to learn something from the calm of Misbah. Had Afridi gauged the situation and played sensibly, they both would have helped Pakistan beat India. He tries to hit out at bowlers a bit too early whereas if he sets in then he can be very dangerous. May be he will learn something after this defeat.

  • Raj B. on September 24, 2007, 17:30 GMT

    Very true, Kamran! Both our teams went out rather ignominously in the world cup. So this has been a tremendous vindication of subcontinental cricket. And, as it turned out, both teams played valiantly. My congratulations to both teams for a tremendous performance and tournament.

  • Prasanna on September 24, 2007, 17:30 GMT

    Congrats to the Indian team.But Pakistan team was simply awesome,especially their bowlers.With the kind of talent hey have in bowling,there is no way they can't be among the top two teams in the world.India has some way to go in the bowling dept.But players like Gambhir,Yuvi,Dhoni,Rohit,RP,Sresanth,Irfan,Kartik etc are just not afraid to lose.They match the Pakistanis in agrression and killer instinct.

  • Asad Bandeali on September 24, 2007, 17:29 GMT

    Great final ! Pakistan played well .. the luck wasnt thee for them .They fought hard Misbah-ul-Haq and Sohail Tanveer are the future of Pakistan cricket nd Our team was down and out but Misbah nd Sohail made us proud .Our team should be given a warm reception on their arrival

  • Mustajab-from-khanewal on September 24, 2007, 17:28 GMT

    Is it just me or someone else think that umpire refused runner?

  • Prajit on September 24, 2007, 17:28 GMT

    Great game by both the teams. The only thing that bothered me was Shoaib Malik's comment at the end where he thanked all the Muslims of the world. There's no need to mix religion with sport. Surely there would be non-Muslims too supporting them, especially when they beat Australia

  • Santosh Menon on September 24, 2007, 17:28 GMT

    Agree wholeheartedly with Mr Abbasi! Kudos to both the teams on providing the best ever final in a cricket tournament!Young India and Young Pakistan have announced their arrival to the other teams of the world.Australia..Your time may well have gone...

  • Vishu on September 24, 2007, 17:27 GMT

    A great triumph for cricket in South Asia. There's obviously an abundance of young talent in the sub-continent and we saw it rise to the fore over the course of this tournament.

    No insult intended to the senior cricketers in India and Pakistan..but I think that the best thing that could have happened to both countries was the non-selection and/or non-participation of the veterans. We can now start to get excited again after the World Cup debacle.

  • Umar.Khan_Islamabad on September 24, 2007, 17:27 GMT

    So close yet so far, Misbah tried to be a little too cute but none teh less it was he who made a match out of nothing. The way he paced his innings, taking singles initially and then boom boom, perfectly. Imran Nazir was playing wonderfully and a "senior player" knowing that he is not fit to take sharp singles but he tries a stupid single and Imran's gone. Prior to that our talented "Senior Player" , who rejected captaincy after enjoying vice captaincy for two and a half year, played a maiden over off Sreesanth who returned the figures of 44 runs/1wicket in 4 Ovs with 1 maiden effectively 44 runs in 3 overs. Younis Khan is a confused individual, he doesn't knwo what type of cricket he sould play and our selectors are even more confused, three years ago he wasn't eligible to play 50 ovs cricket and now he was hhere in 20/20. Can't say anything about Afridi he's a senior player but he hasn't taken his game to another level.He has to become a player on whom team can rely on in pressure situation. Sohail Tanvir's real test would be in the Test series against SA which will show what's the kid made of. Rohit Sharma's late burst was the key for me as I was predicting a score of 145-150 after the 17th over (25-30 Ovs in last 3). I may have got a bit carried away wit Younis but he's a disappointment in the whole tournament along with Salman Butt. All in all,a very good,hard fought cricket match in which the team that kept it's nerves eventually won. Geoff Lawson seems to be crying while giving an interview after the macth, shows the individual's dedication towards his profession. Shoaib Malik's coming good in captaicy now. We still need M.YOUSUF in the team. I have a firm belief that our nation will give them a fair welcom if not a heroics welcome thus proving that we become blind in flow of emotions. Our team plays good cricket we hail them and Vice-Versa.

  • Rajeev on September 24, 2007, 17:27 GMT

    Totally agree with you..a fitting finale indeed...couldn't have asked for anything better! It's days like this when one really feels proud to be associated with this game, be it as a player or as a mere fan!!! Congrats to India and well played Pakistan!!! Three cheers to the sub-continent!!!

  • Ruchit on September 24, 2007, 17:27 GMT

    Hi,

    First of all great match. Super stuff. Mind prevailed over heart.

    Pakistan cannot simply bat!!. I mean this was 20-20 where you will still expect them to perform. I wonder what they are gonna do in longer versions.

    Everybody thinks India's bowling is weak almost non existent but hello though it is really not great it has started becoming efficient of late. Particularily since when they kicked out Ajit Agarkar out of the side. I am sure at this moment we have an overall better team than Pakistan particularily for longer versions where Pakistan hardly have any batsmen. I mean people like Shoaib Mailik,Imran Nazir,Afridi etc are stil okay for 50 0vers match but Test Matches!!.They are gonna miss Inzy and Youhanna for sure in long run. Also the so called great Pakistani bowling line up is consistently great only when they have to bowl for shorter durations. They would find it hard to be that consistent in longer versions of the game.

    For me if there was any gain for Pakistan it was Umar Gul. He had become very potent and completely outshone Mohammed Asif.For Misbah Ul Haq the success has come too late and he himslelf screwed it a bit for himself by scooping the dolly to Sreesanth. I am not too impressed with Malik's captaincy particluarily after he stated that he didnot know about the bowl out rule. Also he has yet to be tested under pressure situations. I think Younis Khan will make a better capatain though he is not interested in the job. IMHO Haq should have been the man of the series and not Afridi.Dont tell Imran Nazir is gonna get better than this. Tanveer looks good but pretty soon his wrong footed action would be sorted out and at his pace he will a easier meat and drink for batsmen worldwide. Afridi is much more mature as a bowler but his batting seems to have taken a beating. So while Pakistan gained in bowling nothing much to show in batting really. Pakistan needs to find batsmen of true class and apart for Mohd Yousuf and to a slight extent Younis Khan they have none in store for the future assuming Inzy's carreer is over.

    For India there were mutiple gains. Rohit Sharma to begin with. That guy has been in all my superselector teams since the game against England.This guy along with Manoj Tiwari and Cheteshwar Pujara are in line to succeed India's trinity of Tendulkar, Ganguly and Dravid. RP Singh was sensational and Irfan Pathan had a terrific comback. Gautam Gambhir also looks a bit more mature. Bhajji and Sreesanth were okay and not so great. Most importantly the fielding was truly sensational which made things happen. But most importantly the biggest plus point has been Dhoni. Just compare the body language of Dhoni and Malik immediately before the bowl out in Durban and you will see what I mean. Also while Malik desgined the great tactic of keeping Gul for the end but Dhoni comes up on trumps in this regard also with real time situation decisions like having to choose between R.P Singh and Joginder Sharma to bowl the penultimate over and then deciding to go for RP Singh inspite of the risk of keeping Jogi for last over. But it was critical because a bad penultimate over from Jogi could have killed the game there and then.Also how he ringed in the bowling changes with a generally mediocre bowling attack was also sensational. Then smart decision to play Yousuf Pathan up the order because he could not have done much anyways lower down the order. Also he played 3 splendid innings in Durban (difficult batting conditions) particularily the one against South Africa. Malik probably would not have been able to do the same consistently. .Anyways Malik did good job in Wanderers with bat exception being the finals.

    I am not trying to downplay Pakistan here. it is just their stupid obsession with only strong bowling and adhoc batting (batting can go to hell) irritates me in the same way India's even stupidier obsession with Batting irritates me.Bowling wins matches but it is the batsmen who set it up.

    Had India had Pakistan's bowling line-up and Pakistan had India's batting line up both of them would have been truly outstanding in modern cricket. Balance is the key here.

    Sorry for long post but I hope you post it. Not reject it simply because it is from an Indian.

    Also one final word on religion: Religion is a great thing but dont involve it with sports. I mean Shoaib Malik thanked Muslims all over the world. Was he thanking Irfan and Yousuf Pathan as well ?? ALso look of Pakistani supporters were hoping for a World Cup Truimph similar to the one in 92' simply because it is Ramadan. Well is this logical?? I mean look at the 92 team: Sohail, Ejaz, Inzy,Malik,Akram,Mushy,Aaqib,Javed Miandad and above all the one and only Imran Khan!!. I watched the cup and I feel that team was really great. It may have too do with the fact that Imran is a personal favorite while I rate Javed Miandad as a batsmen with one of best brains which is something most new age Pakistan Batsmen lack.And of course I adored Akram always.They won because of cricket they played not because it was the holy month of Ramadan at that time.

    Regards. Ruchit.

  • Srikant on September 24, 2007, 17:26 GMT

    COngratulations to the Indian and Pakistani cricket teams for a great tournament. It was wonderful to see these two teams under new captains and a host of young players compete so well.

  • Anil on September 24, 2007, 17:26 GMT

    Great game, fitting end to the tournament. My only grouse is, why does Malik have to drag religion and Muslims all over the world into this, just enjoy the game. Hopefully now that Inzi is gone, the others will tone it down. I am sure non-Muslims in Pakistan would be rooting for their team too.

  • Zeeshan Shukr on September 24, 2007, 17:26 GMT

    Well played India and Pakistan! This was an icing on the cake; a tournament like this deserved such a sensational final and both the teams played out of their skins. I haven't seen such a final before in any ICC Tournament. I agree with Rameez Raja that though India was the winner on the field, cricket was the real winner. Indians would get a dream reception back home and I expect that for Pakistan as well who have played exceptionally well throughout the tournament. Misbah should have been declared the Player of the Tournament for his consistent batting under pressure. Cricket is nothing without Pakistan and India!

  • rajesh on September 24, 2007, 17:26 GMT

    The first time I have felt so proud and grace in our defeat. Well done boys!! We are young team, and lot of players seem to have come forward as strong characters in this tournament. In the end, one team had to win, and very aptly it was just by a whisker. Not sure, why Afridi got the man of tournament. Gul or Misbah were far more consistent and had impact.

  • Roshan on September 24, 2007, 17:26 GMT

    woooooo.... what a rush!

    India vs Pakistan! How big is that??? There is nothing on this Gods green earth that can beat a India Pakistan game. We win some, we loose some but the adreline it generates.. truly breath taking. First match between us and pak was a tie and to produce such a thriller at a Final of a showpiece event was simply amazing. I cannot remember a single final which was as competetive as was this Final. Three cheers to both the teams for putting up such a magnificent show!

    Can you imagine the cricket world without India and Pakistan, How boring would that be???? Are these the two teams who were out of the ODI world cup this year in the first round? No wonder that world cup was so boring??

    Even though we won today I belive if there was any team that could have beaten us that would be pakistan and only team that can beat pakistan would be India. Thats how good these two teams were... simply superb! best in the world....

    Did somebody say Australia??? World Champs!!! Both India and Pakistan beat them in this world cup lolz... hehehehehe......

    kudos to India and Pakistan... Let the good work continue and always may the better team on that day win.

    - Roshan

  • Naveed Akhtar on September 24, 2007, 17:25 GMT

    Spot on Mr Abbasi. Cricket was the winner. But losing to India does hurt espeically in a final. Pakistan through the game away with brainless shots. India won it when it met the most.

  • krish on September 24, 2007, 17:25 GMT

    Great match. Goodluck to Pakistan team. You did play really well. Someone of the two best teams has to win. India won but in my view pakistan won too. Two best teams of Asia won. Both the teams have defeated Australia, so called world champions. Misbah, you have played well. Afridi, I am disappointed with your batting. Umar, you did very well, Keep it up

    Congratulations team India. You have done well. YOu have proved that team india can win without the senior players. Everyone played well. I am happy that Irfan did prove himself and proved everyone wrong. RP you have done well. Team India needs few more Rohit Sharma's. Ajit Agarkar should take rest.

    Good win for Team india. Chak De India

  • Saim Aziz on September 24, 2007, 17:25 GMT

    First of all we have got a fantastic game of cricket no matter who wins, i think the way both India and Pakistan were playing was terrific it was the game of nerves who ever can hold there nervs would won the game and in the end the better team comes out as a winner but i am not taking any thing away from Pakistan and Misbah Ul haq they bowled well they feilded well but in the end its not the bowling which let pakistan down once again. It was not that big of a target but again poor shot selection, throwing their wickets away unlike they did all along the tournament. But in the end it was good game and well played both teams.

  • Tariq Vaid on September 24, 2007, 17:25 GMT

    I heartfully congratulate both India & Pakistan for providing us a very exciting finish to T20 WC, you folks have made the nation extremely proud, GOD bless you all...Ameen

  • sivan on September 24, 2007, 17:25 GMT

    Well said Mr. Abbasi. I think pakistan has more to say in the coming series. Hats off to Mr. Lawson for playing such a low key and I feel that his arrival has done more good than chappell´s 2 year stint in India

  • murli on September 24, 2007, 17:24 GMT

    Many years back, to be precise April 18th 1986, i saw Javed Miandad wallop Chetan Sharma over the ropes for an improbable win in an Australasia Cup final at Sharjah. It was heartbreaking and all these years i carried this sad thought. I guess today Indian team redeemed itself and i cant express my happiness over this win. But to be honest, Pakistan were brilliant. Cliched it may sound, cut in the end CRICKET was a winner.

  • Shantan on September 24, 2007, 17:24 GMT

    Well said Kamran! I fully agree that the game of cricket won and it was really heartening to see subcontinent teams put team before self. I hate to say it, but India seemed to be doing better without the likes of Rahul, Sachin & Sourav in the team. So, the future is not as bleak as I thought it would be! Maybe it's time to blood more youngsters in the coming matches, especially the one-dayers. The above three-mentioned stars have earned their place in the Test Matches, but I think ODIs need younger & fresher legs, so they should be asked to only make themselves available for Test Matches. As regards Pakistan, I really liked Misbah-ul-Haq. I always knew Shoaib Malik as a class player, but Misbah was a revelation. Pity, he's coming good towards the end of his career. With Mohd. Yousuf out, Pakistan could really have liked this man to control the middle order. I must say Shahid Afridi needs to start putting his hand up and guide his team to victory. Especially when he's the senior most member of the team! He's got the talent, but we need to see results now.

    All in all, a great tournament and more so, because it brought some wonderful matches. India vs Australia and India vs Pakistan will live in our memory for a long time!

    Cheers Dhoni & Shoaib!!!

  • P. Murali Gopal on September 24, 2007, 17:22 GMT

    Congrats to Pakistan and India. As an Indian fan, I wanted India to win but as a fan of cricket, I wanted the better team to win. India were better but only by a whisker. It was a thrilling game to watch and congratulations to both the teams for giving us spectators such a treat!

  • saimon on September 24, 2007, 17:22 GMT

    the two teams deserver the cup equaly. it shows that australia can be beaten. the 50 over world cups australia were making it boring. now the sub continent teams are showing that anything is possible. congrats to india and pakistan, lets not for get srilanka and my love bangladesh. bangladesh are young team and something for the future. india under dhoni was superb. pakistan under malik and good batting by misbah was very good. i hope this are the stepping stones for the sub-continent teams to show that playing positive cricket will always win games. so congrets to all the teams in T20. like the part where shah rukh khan was shown... jetaga bhai jetage, sub-continent teams jetega...

  • amir on September 24, 2007, 17:22 GMT

    CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH INDIA AND PAKISTAN, YOU BOTH HAVE PLAY VERY GOOD CRICKET. ALL THE WORLD ENJOY THE MATCH INDIA VS. PAKISTAN

  • manu on September 24, 2007, 17:22 GMT

    Well I am an Indian and I must admit that this Pakistan team rocks !! Actually there was no winner or loser. Pakistan was one stroke away from victory. Thats all that seperated the two teams - one stroke. People, please support your team. This team is meant for bigger things just as our Dhoni and co is. Is this the revival of the Sub Continent in the cricketing world ! Well done once again.

  • manu on September 24, 2007, 17:22 GMT

    Well I am an Indian and I must admit that this Pakistan team rocks !! Actually there was no winner or loser. Pakistan was one stroke away from victory. Thats all that seperated the two teams - one stroke. People, please support your team. This team is meant for bigger things just as our Dhoni and co is. Is this the revival of the Sub Continent in the cricketing world ! Well done once again.

  • Rashid Masood on September 24, 2007, 17:21 GMT

    Great Game! Loads of respect for Misbah. I think PCB and Pakistan would do well to give the team and Misbah some awards, they did a wonderful job. I think Misbah should become a regular in the team now. I didn't mind losing the game. It would have hurt more if we lost by a big margin. It was a beautiful game through and through. Congrats to all the players. They played well throughout!

  • Saiful Ansari, Leesburg Virginia, USA on September 24, 2007, 17:21 GMT

    Triumph of young men in the 20/20 format of Cricket

    The game has ended with a resounding victory for Cricket and what a thriller it has been.

    Both India and Pakistan played some great cricket and this will help the development of the sport in the sub-continent and the rest of the world.

    Three cheers for India on their victory and SHABASH to Pakistan for a great fight back.

    Both the teams are young and led by ambitious young men like Dhoni (India) and Shoaib (Pakistan) and they led from the front. The atmosphere was electric and the inspiration of these two captains kept the players in the contest.

    20/20 is an exciting format and will go a long way in making the game of cricket popular through out the world.

    One must congratulate the South African's for organizing a wonderful tournament.

  • Nikhil on September 24, 2007, 17:20 GMT

    This match had an eerie resemblance to the Ind-Pak match of 1986, it was a final, Pak had lost 9 wickets and the bowler was even a ‘Sharma’ to complete the effect. I was scared till the last moment.

    This has been a hell of a match and I think the fans cannot really complain.

  • mahi on September 24, 2007, 17:20 GMT

    You are right!! its a great honor to bring the WC to the subcontinent and the best part was both the teams made it to the finals by beating the world champs Aussies.. that puts a stamp of authority on their performance.. Congratulations to Dhoni's team for upsetting the pak team with such a strong bowling line up.. Lots of positives for both sides.. Hope India youth can replicate the success in the 50 over version.. Oh just to add .. Pak should have sent afride top of the order.. he has always done well opening the batting against india... Kudos to T20

  • Srinivasa Singireddy on September 24, 2007, 17:20 GMT

    Congratulations to Indian Young Team. Keep it up.

  • ghf on September 24, 2007, 17:20 GMT

    Pakistan should hav won but well done anyway great come bak by pakistan wel batted misbah ul haq and dose HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sixes by sohail tanvir he should be pakistans opener.got to giv credit to umar gul well bowled.

  • Haris Khan on September 24, 2007, 17:19 GMT

    Hi Kamran,

    It was an electrifying final as you would expect from an India/Pak game. What a match!!. Both teams played excellent cricket today. Hats off to both the teams for making it to the finals after the most humiliating exit from the world cup earlier this year. I think the best thing that came out of this 20/20 tournament is the fact they there were no "Star" players in both the teams. Do we need them? Nah!

  • abhilash nair on September 24, 2007, 17:18 GMT

    amazing!!!!!!!!!!!u can't ask more than that??Two teams head on till the last over and india winning the cup.Pakistan really bowled well esp Gul.he is been bowling great in this series.Also the captaincy of Dhoni,he backed his boys well. WELL DONE INDIA AND PAKISTAN FOR THIS WONDERFULL FINAL

  • Ashish Heda on September 24, 2007, 17:18 GMT

    Good Article Mr. Abbasi. It was great to see Indian comeback with all of their victories being win it or get out. Sort of Australia in 1999 World Cup [have to specify, the 50 over format :)] Oh wait, wasn't Pakistan present in the finals there? Oh yeah they were, and they lost again :D Jokes apart, this is what the cricket world wanted to see. After disastrous performance in the earlier World Cup, both teams proved that they can match and better the best of other teams. Here's a toast for many more India-Pakistan finals in the future.

  • Rana Pratap Singh on September 24, 2007, 17:17 GMT

    Congratulations India!!! And well played to Pakistan too. What a Finale!!! two of the most under-rated teams slugged it out in a battle of nerves at the Bull Ring. No better advert for cricket...the real winner. Congrats India and Dhoni for winning without a coach. We need younger brigade now. Its time for the youth to fire and show all their 'josh' and get rid of the old baggage

  • imran on September 24, 2007, 17:17 GMT

    for me Pak won the hearts by the way they played. dont forget it was a disastrous year for them, early exit, death of their coach, but to come out of it in sucha way is really out of the box.

    the Pakistan cricket board should keep this team, and groom them, Shoaib is a real good captain with cool head sans attitude, and we hope Pak will do good in d future.

    Hats off to India as well they really played their best. Congrats!

    looking forward to indo-pak series.

  • Ritz on September 24, 2007, 17:17 GMT

    Wow what a match !!! The game had everything. Pressure of the final was evident on the players faces from the start. But the way both the teams played was mind blowing. The game was played with good sporting spirit was also good to watch. In the end it's not only India's victory. Cricket as a whole won.

  • arun nayyar on September 24, 2007, 17:17 GMT

    Very well said. Both teams were almost comparable. I am surprised at the decision of Afridi as Player of Tournament. Gul Deserved it then any one else. This brings some better and younger players to forefront in both India and Pakistan teams.

  • Prem S. Bodagala on September 24, 2007, 17:17 GMT

    As good a player as Misbah is, does he suffer a bit from the South African Choke syndrome? Its twice in two matches that he has failed to cross the finish line while well in sight. But that is more than can be said of his fellow batsmen. Good job Misbah!

  • Abhijit on September 24, 2007, 17:17 GMT

    Mr. Abbassi,

    An appropriate column for an appropriate moment. Both Ind and Pak are young, "new look" teams, but have gone a long way in showing us the future with out the "greats" -- Sachin, Saurav, Rahul, Inzi, Yousuf, Shoaib. Today might mark the changing of an era for both sides.

    This match, and indeed all the matches played by Ind and Pak in this tourney, have been a great advertisement for cricket. It has been a welcome return to a competitive game, despite the presence of the Aussies who looked mortal here. Excitement galore, new talent discovered (Rohit Sharma, Misbah, Sohail) and a promise of a bright future for both teams. Bravo India! Bravo Pakistan!!

  • jack ryan on September 24, 2007, 17:17 GMT

    Great Game. The match was lost when Younis Khan played a maiden over and then got Nazir run out knowing he was struggling with a hamstring pull. Misbah pulled it out of nowhere and made it close. One of the reasons why you select seniors to play in such matches is for their ability to think on their feet! Younis Khan who had a flippant disregard for not only his own strike rate but that of Imran Nazir as well. Why risk a run-out when Nazir was hitting so beautifully?

    Second, it was idiotic to continue (yet again) to experiment with Akmal up the order (BTW, tournament finals are not a place for experiments). I will go one step further to say that it is time to stop experimenting all together with Akmal and go with another keeper.

    Finally Shoaib Malik needs some coaching on post match comments.

  • Aman on September 24, 2007, 17:17 GMT

    Definitely a special day for cricket!

    Two Asian giants battling it out in the final was an encounter this sport was dying for. Hats off to India, a brilliant display of teamwork and energy through out the tournament. They rightly deserved the victory.

    I would also like to say that Pakistani fans deserved this performance by their team. After a horrid outing from the world cup, this tournament has been a refreshing reminder that our team still has what it takes. Sure they lost to the arch nemesis, but they didn't go down without that "jazba" we all know about.

    I probably speak for all of us fans when I say that after the Oval fiasco, the Woolmer tragedy, and all that has happened in between, Pakistan you little beauty!

    Don't have any regrets. Never will.

  • Saurabh on September 24, 2007, 17:17 GMT

    Yes, you hit the nail right on the head. Sure Pakistan lost and India won but they gave the fans all over the world a truly great match, one that both the teams should be proud of. No one deserved to lose not the least Misbah Ul Haq who won everyone's heart with a valiant knock. I think both Pakistan and India has plenty to gain from this, young cricketers on both sides performed admirably throughout and that augurs well for both the countries in the future.

  • Hitesh on September 24, 2007, 17:16 GMT

    Congratulations to the both teams to give such an exciting two matches. People from both countries should Enjoy this wonderful sport. Also, today truly real winner was cricket.

  • ACT on September 24, 2007, 17:16 GMT

    What a game!! What a thriller!! Atlast a world cup final with thrills in it. Congratulations to both Pakistan and India..India especially as no one thought they would reach here..and the men in blue did it..It was do or die after the NZ game and they did the best by winning the world cup..Great going India..

  • Omair on September 24, 2007, 17:16 GMT

    The final couldn't be scripted any better...what a showdown at the end of the day. This is what the cricket fans were craving for the longest time. Finally, we have an answer to Australia's reign and there are only teams in the world who are capable of putting an end to that reign. I am really proud of the effort that the Pakistani team put into the entire tournament but on the same token I strongly believe that India deserved to win the title as their performance was far more consistent than Pakistan and largely because Pakistan didn't play to their full potential in 3 games i.e. vs Scotland, Bangladesh and the tie against India which was could have been a walk in the park. In the end, nothing to sweat over as this is where the new era of Pakistani cricket will start and I am hoping that the nation will welcome our Pakistani youngsters with a warm reception!

  • Khurram Mir on September 24, 2007, 17:16 GMT

    Lets not talk about if's and but's. Lets not dwell into why's and why not's. Lets not focus on win and loss. Lets not apologize for defeat and become over-proud in victory. Lets just sit back and enjoy - for something had to give in. Eventually its the sheer agression on the field that has won it for both teams.

  • Harneet Singh on September 24, 2007, 17:16 GMT

    First of all congrats for a great final. ONLY Paksitan has the guts of coming back from nowhere to almost win a match. On this day, the better team won. Pakistan batsmen should take a clue from Misbah and they could be a great unbeatable side. India on the other hand, should be prod of themselves but sould not be overconfident as tough Australia home series lies ahead. Australia are champions because they are best test cricket playing side out there.

    While 20-20 is a great entertainment it by no means compare to the quality of Test Cricket and 50 over game.

    My Man of the series should be Misbah as he has had several megatons of pressure on him to perform and performed to perfection and almost landed Pakistan their 1st 20-20 Cup.

  • ghf on September 24, 2007, 17:15 GMT

    Pakistan should hav won but well done anyway great come bak by pakistan wel batted misbah ul haq and dose HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sixes by sohail tanvir he should be pakistans opener.got to giv credit to umar gul well bowled.

  • Abhi on September 24, 2007, 17:15 GMT

    What a game of cricket that was! Total "paisa wasool" stuff. Simply brilliant. If India vs Pak final was a dream come true for millions of subcontinent cricket fans, India lifting the trophy was icing on the cake for every Indian. The Pakistan team would be proud of their effort which in no way was inferior to those of their Indian counterparts. As rightly said by Sunny and Ramiz that it was the victory of cricket, it's unfortunate that there can be only be one winner, even after the exhibition of such a superior level of cricket all throughout the tournament. Well played guys.

  • Nat on September 24, 2007, 17:15 GMT

    Imran Khan made a very important statement today when he said that Test Cricket requires three things of a batsman:- Talent, Technique and Temperament. He said that the shorter the game, the more the emphasis on talent, and the less important the other two. He therefore concluded that the sub-continent had the most talent and therefore ruled at the T20s.

    Both Pakistan and India were able to play their best teams today, unburdened by aging legs, and overweight egos.

    I'm betting that this T20 sees major changes in both teams, with less emphasis on hype and more emphasis on the sheer hunger for victory.

    What we saw from Misbah, Yuvraj, Gul and Sreesanth was raw energy, and a screaming desire for a win for the team.

    I think the players who put "I" first, will soon go the way of the dinosaurs.

  • Prem S. Bodagala on September 24, 2007, 17:15 GMT

    Thanks to both teams for a great final. India held their nerve better and have kept their record in big matches against Pakistan intact. Chak De India!!!

  • Rajender Sama on September 24, 2007, 17:15 GMT

    Well played India and Pakisthan.Hats off to Indian Team.This is occasion to remember for years to come.We miss you Sachin( Greatest batsman to play cricket on this planet).Once again congrates to Indian Team.Guyz best of luck.

  • abhijoy on September 24, 2007, 17:15 GMT

    Excellent piece. Cricket won today.It was great for the sub continent after being second best in the last 3 world cups.Congratulations to both the teams and to their respective captains for one of the most exciting finals ever seen.You can bet that twenty twenty is here to stay.

  • Usman Shah on September 24, 2007, 17:15 GMT

    What a final and tournament this was!! Definitely made up for the World Cup earlier this year. There should be more twenty20 cricket judjing by the success of this tournament. Well played to Mishbah Ul Haq and Shahid Afridi. Afridi is finally proving why he was selected 11 years ago.. a bowler who can bat a bit. India was by far the superior team in this tournament. Deserved winners. I predict them to win the next world cup in 2011, inshallah.

  • pradyush on September 24, 2007, 17:15 GMT

    Irrespective of the result ,it was a victory for cricket,and for the cricket lovers and players of both the nations who have suffered a lot since the early exit in the world cup earlier this year. Both teams are brimming with talent and we got a glimpse of the future stars of both the nations. Sohail tanvir was the find for pakistan and Rohit sharma was the find for India. Both the team played fearless cricket . The indiam team fielded brilliantly and were led well by Dhoni. Pakistan also played and fought brilliantly. The pakistani team is due to visit India this november and we should witness more of this exhilarating contest played with good intent of frienship. Kudos to both the team .

  • Brajesh on September 24, 2007, 17:15 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi great to read your comments, always, even more today. This T20 final clearly shows what India-Pak bring to the game of cricket - No other country follows cricket with the fanaticism that we do. I have seldom seen a game of cricket with so many ups-downs. In the end it was left to Misbah again ... but I think the clear thinking and fearless cricket professed by Dhoni showed the power of these traits - imagine a replacement with a guy debuting in WC final asked to open ? Putting faith in Joginder again and again ...The game of cricket won for sure - and India the deserving winner of the trophy ...

  • kanagaraj on September 24, 2007, 17:15 GMT

    Good team spirit by Indian team. All round performance by youngster and good captaincy

  • rachit on September 24, 2007, 17:14 GMT

    awesome match....very very tight finish....a wonderful way to end a wonderful world cup...n didnt we need this after that lousy one early this yr! pakistan played really well n for a long time i thot we wud lose...but thank god for the paddle shot!! :) btw, i agree with maher on the choice of afridi...gul was way better...as was rp singh...or even yuvraj or misbah...to me, afridi lost the match for pak...when he came in, it wud hv been easy to win had he stayed at the wicket....but no..."this is my playing style"...lets see how long he can keep hiding behind the same excuse! n how long can pak afford to play him as a specialist spinner!

  • Raghu on September 24, 2007, 17:14 GMT

    In this time of victory for India, and as we celebrate the victory here in Bangalore, my heart goes out to Misbah. What a player! with 24 balls to go and 47 to get, to hit five sixes and narrow down the difference to 6 off four balls - for me, he will always be a hero. Well played, Misbah!

  • Mahadev on September 24, 2007, 17:13 GMT

    Congrats to both the teams. If only we had a united Team. Good luck to both the teams. Cheers

  • Ravi Nalluri on September 24, 2007, 17:12 GMT

    Rightly said Mr. Abbasi. No one could have scripted it better. Excellent game of cricket. Pakistan bowled well throughout the torunament and India batted well. Umar Gul could have been given the Player of the Torunament. Having said that, Afridi also done his bit with fielding and inspiring younger players apart from bowling well.

    From India's point of view, Rohit Sharma played two crucial innings under pressure. He is a find of the series for India one has to say like Tanweer for Pak.

    The tournament is conducted beautifully and it's huge huge success after the failure of World Cup in West Indies.

    People start watching cricket again in India. Well done India. Well done Dhoni.

  • udi on September 24, 2007, 17:12 GMT

    I am an Indian and i want to say this is the best Pakistan team i have seen in the last decade i have followed the Team for about 3 decades but never saw the Team Sprit that Malik has managed to bring about. I believe i has some thing to do with no having some of your senior players around.

    Of Course India are the winners and to win a World cup should be one of the proudest moments for any Indian cricket fan. And to Beat SA , AUS and PAK (twice) is a dream come true.

    Chak De India!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • S Banerjee on September 24, 2007, 17:12 GMT

    cricket's the winner and the greatest rivalry is between india and pakistan...what's good to see is the rivalry is mature...defeat for any team is not and shud not be construed to be the end of the world.As for the match I feel Gambhir shud've the MOM for he nearly scored half of india's score and if not for him pathan wouldn't have had a chance to get those wickets.

  • atul on September 24, 2007, 17:11 GMT

    Thank you Mr. Abbasi on this piece. The game has really been the greatest winner this being the inaugural tournament. I hope this outcome goes a long way to healing the pain caused by a poor 50-over world cup and speaks a lot about the talent inherent within both countries. Well played India and Pakistan!! Couldn't have been better!

  • Manish on September 24, 2007, 17:10 GMT

    Oh I see. Controlled comments on the blog.

    Not good for world. Not good for democracy. You should know this by now or are you now used to Musharaafs of the world.

    Manish

  • VIC on September 24, 2007, 17:10 GMT

    Looking at the failure of the top order, Afridi's services should have utilized more often as an opening batsman in this form of the game. He makes 30 plus opening in the previous game and now at crunch time, he is coming down the order and playing under pressure.

  • GS on September 24, 2007, 17:10 GMT

    Misbah for President! You have won over yet another Indian Fan..Its Inzi's calm all over again.

  • Sammie on September 24, 2007, 17:09 GMT

    I'm so dissappointed! India's media kept on saying that india will win... but I was looking at it from crickets point of view... Pakistan team was well equiped but I'm gonna officially call it a curse on Pakistan neevr beating india!!! Well i will also give it a name.. the Curse of Shastri... Cheers

  • Sundar on September 24, 2007, 17:09 GMT

    Rightly put Mr.Abbasi. I think that today we proved that India and Pakistan do play with a lot more passion than even the Ashes rivals and accept the result with the same equmanity

  • murali on September 24, 2007, 17:08 GMT

    what a game!! A great final i have ever seen.Both team played well.Lots of ups and downs for both team thro' out this final.But at last it was india.

  • moiz on September 24, 2007, 17:08 GMT

    Congratulation India and well played pakistan, i must say the match was played with great sports manship it didnt matter if pakistan lost today i always wanted to see if you go down...go down fighting Well Played Pakistan A deserving victory India!! We'll be back!!

  • Manish on September 24, 2007, 17:08 GMT

    India rules!!!

    Pakistan has never one a match in World Cup against India. That tells about the pressure and holding nerves.

    And whats up with Shoaib Malik in his speech. Thanks to Muslims all around the world?? Is he kidding me?

    Please don't give more reasons to hate Pakistan.

    Manish

  • tperacha on September 24, 2007, 17:08 GMT

    Although it's going to take me forever to get over this defeat, but well done Pakistan. On a different note, I want Malik to keep religion out of his post match comments. As a Muslim I was praying throughout the game for Pakistan's success, however, to bring it up in post match conference is not the right thing in my opinion. When you say, "First of all I'd like to thank people back home and the Muslims around the world." then what about all the non-Muslims who were supporting Pakistan? He looks like a great captain, but just needs to pick his words wisely. Go PAKISTAN!

  • fasih on September 24, 2007, 17:08 GMT

    We lost it when we came nearest it win it. An exhilirating final and thumbs up to both sides for providing great entertainment throughout!.

  • basiljohnfernandez on September 24, 2007, 17:08 GMT

    A refeshing win by a young team. It is quite obvious that both the teams were totally let down by the dinosaurs that refused to move on, when needed most, in the other world cup. Perhaps this team would have won even.....

  • Deb on September 24, 2007, 17:08 GMT

    For the sake or world cricket, some team other than Australia needed to win it. An India Pakistan final was simply great to have. These young teams have played superbly.

  • Pak fan for Life... on September 24, 2007, 17:08 GMT

    Great Final. Typical India/Pakistan game. Don't know till the end who will previal. Feel sorry for Misbah but Pakistan has done really well considering their situation earlier this year. Very disappointed personally...but I am glad that Pakistanis fought till the end considering they were 107 for 7. Misbah should've been the player of the tournament or maybe Yuvraj.

  • Haq on September 24, 2007, 17:07 GMT

    Amazing recovery from both Pak and India. Excellent captaincy from both Malik and Dhoni. World cricket needs teams like this.. come on.. Let us (Pak and India) build on this and rule the cricket world for years to come..

  • Mitul on September 24, 2007, 17:06 GMT

    Excellent Quotes Guy. Well Played India and Pakistan......Will be in the memories of years. After the world cup debacle.....This was much needed for both the teams.

    Congrates player of both the teams. Showed great deal of respect for each other.

    And absolutely, The cup should stay in Asia Or make sure it doesn't go to Australia.....Double contrates for both teams for not letting australia win.

  • Nish on September 24, 2007, 17:06 GMT

    Congrats to our young Indian guns for a wonderful performance in winning this inaugral 20/20 TT World Cup. Bad luck to our Pakistani brothers but unfortunately, only one team can win. However, both Pakistan & India have shown what cricketing talent we have in Asia. Well done both teams!!!

  • Zeeshan Khamisani on September 24, 2007, 17:06 GMT

    I agree with you full Kamran. This game was a triumph for cricket. The best part is that the masses have learned to watch the game, cheer and take victories and losses in their stride. There will be no more accusations of throwing away the game, no more rude welcome when the boys arrive back home.

    Both teams have found good captains and better yet, good teams. What needs to be done now is to keep the destructive elements out of these sides, and let the youngsters develope. May the India and Pakistan dominate this game.

  • HD on September 24, 2007, 17:06 GMT

    Truly a dream contest and worthy of a world cup final. India and Pakistan did exceedingly well to stay in the game - so refreshing after see so many anti-climactic finals with Australia dominating.

  • senior player on September 24, 2007, 17:05 GMT

    A very good contest ended the way it should have. Both teams have shown what young talent can do. As for the big reputation (senior) players. Both India and Pakistan need to look to the future and let those players go whose best is passed. I really think that Younus, Akmal and Afridi should not take their places for granted. They must be put under pressure by the likes of Misbah and many like him who couldn't get in the team because of strange policies in the pre-Malik era.

  • Pathan on September 24, 2007, 17:05 GMT

    O, what a game of cricket! I thought it was over at the half way stage with Pakistan faltering badly but what an innings by Misbah. In my opinion, he should have been player of the tournament especially with Afridi mindlessly throwing awaying his wicket (again!!).

    But, as a Pakistani fan, it is bitterly disappointing to get so close to the finishing line and lose. I dont understand what overcame Misbah to play that shot when he was striking it down the ground with ease, particuarly with only 6 off 4 balls... Oh well, we have seen this many times as Pakistani fans but this time the team appears to be be better, stronger and more determined to suceed. The future looks good. Well done India (I saw through gritted teeth!!)

  • Theena on September 24, 2007, 17:04 GMT

    All I want to know is where the hell have the PCB been hiding Misbah-ul-Haq. I couldn't help but be reminded of his namesake, the great Inzi; Misbah's composure was a revelation.

  • raj on September 24, 2007, 17:04 GMT

    An excellent finale and the brave deserved to win. Dhoni's daredevil's have drawn first blood but the India pakistan series is going to be mouthwatering. Kudo's for Pakistan for going all the way.Sadly the world cup jinx continues for pakistan. Be prepared for an electrifying series between India & Pakistan.

  • adz on September 24, 2007, 17:03 GMT

    true well said am just gutted maliks troops jus deserved so much more

  • Naveed on September 24, 2007, 17:02 GMT

    Afridi has no shame and no sense of responsibility.. he is consistently failing whenever his team needs him.. these kind of people should be banned from the team

  • sharoz on September 24, 2007, 17:02 GMT

    awesome game! thts really all tht i can say...and gosh do i feeel for misbah..poor guy..but well played pakistan! we'r proud of u! and i think India have found an awesome captain in Dhoni anywayz cheers congratz 2 the indians

  • Jay from San Diego on September 24, 2007, 17:01 GMT

    Well played India and Pakistan. Both teams defeated Australia which speaks volume to the recover post Caribbean World Cup.

    One feels for Misbah though. Where the hell was this guy before? A real class, cool and calm cricketer.

    Congrats India!

  • RG on September 24, 2007, 16:59 GMT

    Excellent performance by both teams. 20/20 cricket may rejuvenate the game and may even attract other countries.

  • puneet on September 24, 2007, 16:55 GMT

    we won!! great game but pakistan in al its euphoria must not forget that younis khan and afridi both experienced players played foolish strokes had it not been for misbah and tanvirs's slogs match would not have been so close again fantastic game...well played to both teams

  • Sameer A Malik on September 24, 2007, 16:50 GMT

    When Indian team was in a situation getting eliminated before qualifying for the semi final, all of a sudden the 'mysterious' cards were turned and it over turned the tournament , realistically India is not that big of a team who can beat South Africa as well as Australia, Those were clear hints that India is going to be crowned. As far as Pakistan team is concerned, if we just think about the cricket then i can't understand why Kamran Akmal was sent at number 3? Malik and Misbah were playing like scared kids, Malik couldn't even hold the bat properly, hitting boundaries seemed impossible for both these kids and Afridi absolutely ruined everything. I know Malik was wrong to hold Afridi back for too long but still when Afridi came, the stage was half set for him to hit few boundaries and nail it for Pakistan but NO HOPE. I can't understand what kind of innings Misbah-ul-Haq was playing, when he ran out of partners he started hitting sixes, i am so sure if he had started it a while earlier......... Anyways he still brought Pakistan closer to victory with the help of Sohail Tanveer (this bloke hit the first ball of his international career for a SIX and that too in the final, he has a good future i'm sure), and when equation came in favor of Pakistan (6 needed of 4), he played the most stupid shot of his career and destroyed the stage he had set himself. In the end i dont know India is a deserving winner or not but still winner is winner ( like '83 world cup)

  • ReverseSwing on September 24, 2007, 16:47 GMT

    I guess you could do the (psycho)analysis on umpteenth loss for Pakistan in a major final with India.

  • fhs` on September 24, 2007, 16:40 GMT

    Very well said Mr. Abbasi!

    Great final! Congrats to India on wining it! and very well played Pakistan. We love you Pakistani team! You made us feel proud and deserve a warm reception on arrival!

  • Saket on September 24, 2007, 16:38 GMT

    Well said Kamran! Though one team lost, the game really won. Two things were needed in this tournament- lots of excitement and competitive stuff from anyone but Australia. Hardly anyone could have predicted the finalists or their stunning performances. I really hope that the World Cup stays in Asia for a long time and also that people look at these matches with a huge dollop of perspective, just like you have done. Well played Pakistan!! Well played India!!

  • maher on September 24, 2007, 16:35 GMT

    Congrats to both India and Pak, This is why cricket world needs both of these to perform well. And afterall who else can beat Australia? A little strange decision to give Afridi player of tournament. I think with in Pak team Gul and Misbah were superb than Afridi while players like Yuvraj did well too.I'm really impressed by captaincy of Dhoni(with out coach too)

  • Ali Rizvi on September 24, 2007, 16:33 GMT

    Rightly said Mr. Abbasi. As Ramiz Raja said the game of cricket had won today and ICC have to thank Dhoni and Malik for it.

    Having said this I would like to apologize to Misbah-ul-Haq who I thought to be a very bad selection decision before the start of this tournament but he had proven that he can be depended upon. Now all he needs is to deliver next time to really show his calibre.

    I would like ot thank the Pakistan team and Shoaib Malik for a wonderful tournament and hopefully the Pakistani fans do not take out the frustrations on this young and wonderful team who has given their best.

    Certainly some more work needs to be done to be a truly world class team but hopefully the young players would be able to do it. Misbah should be retained in the side for whatever amount of cricket he has left even if he fails to perform just to instill in the team the professionalism and composure with which he played this tournament.

    Again Hats Off to Dhoni and Malik hoping that the Dhoni mantra of playing to enjoy rubs off on everyone from the subcontinent.

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  • Ali Rizvi on September 24, 2007, 16:33 GMT

    Rightly said Mr. Abbasi. As Ramiz Raja said the game of cricket had won today and ICC have to thank Dhoni and Malik for it.

    Having said this I would like to apologize to Misbah-ul-Haq who I thought to be a very bad selection decision before the start of this tournament but he had proven that he can be depended upon. Now all he needs is to deliver next time to really show his calibre.

    I would like ot thank the Pakistan team and Shoaib Malik for a wonderful tournament and hopefully the Pakistani fans do not take out the frustrations on this young and wonderful team who has given their best.

    Certainly some more work needs to be done to be a truly world class team but hopefully the young players would be able to do it. Misbah should be retained in the side for whatever amount of cricket he has left even if he fails to perform just to instill in the team the professionalism and composure with which he played this tournament.

    Again Hats Off to Dhoni and Malik hoping that the Dhoni mantra of playing to enjoy rubs off on everyone from the subcontinent.

  • maher on September 24, 2007, 16:35 GMT

    Congrats to both India and Pak, This is why cricket world needs both of these to perform well. And afterall who else can beat Australia? A little strange decision to give Afridi player of tournament. I think with in Pak team Gul and Misbah were superb than Afridi while players like Yuvraj did well too.I'm really impressed by captaincy of Dhoni(with out coach too)

  • Saket on September 24, 2007, 16:38 GMT

    Well said Kamran! Though one team lost, the game really won. Two things were needed in this tournament- lots of excitement and competitive stuff from anyone but Australia. Hardly anyone could have predicted the finalists or their stunning performances. I really hope that the World Cup stays in Asia for a long time and also that people look at these matches with a huge dollop of perspective, just like you have done. Well played Pakistan!! Well played India!!

  • fhs` on September 24, 2007, 16:40 GMT

    Very well said Mr. Abbasi!

    Great final! Congrats to India on wining it! and very well played Pakistan. We love you Pakistani team! You made us feel proud and deserve a warm reception on arrival!

  • ReverseSwing on September 24, 2007, 16:47 GMT

    I guess you could do the (psycho)analysis on umpteenth loss for Pakistan in a major final with India.

  • Sameer A Malik on September 24, 2007, 16:50 GMT

    When Indian team was in a situation getting eliminated before qualifying for the semi final, all of a sudden the 'mysterious' cards were turned and it over turned the tournament , realistically India is not that big of a team who can beat South Africa as well as Australia, Those were clear hints that India is going to be crowned. As far as Pakistan team is concerned, if we just think about the cricket then i can't understand why Kamran Akmal was sent at number 3? Malik and Misbah were playing like scared kids, Malik couldn't even hold the bat properly, hitting boundaries seemed impossible for both these kids and Afridi absolutely ruined everything. I know Malik was wrong to hold Afridi back for too long but still when Afridi came, the stage was half set for him to hit few boundaries and nail it for Pakistan but NO HOPE. I can't understand what kind of innings Misbah-ul-Haq was playing, when he ran out of partners he started hitting sixes, i am so sure if he had started it a while earlier......... Anyways he still brought Pakistan closer to victory with the help of Sohail Tanveer (this bloke hit the first ball of his international career for a SIX and that too in the final, he has a good future i'm sure), and when equation came in favor of Pakistan (6 needed of 4), he played the most stupid shot of his career and destroyed the stage he had set himself. In the end i dont know India is a deserving winner or not but still winner is winner ( like '83 world cup)

  • puneet on September 24, 2007, 16:55 GMT

    we won!! great game but pakistan in al its euphoria must not forget that younis khan and afridi both experienced players played foolish strokes had it not been for misbah and tanvirs's slogs match would not have been so close again fantastic game...well played to both teams

  • RG on September 24, 2007, 16:59 GMT

    Excellent performance by both teams. 20/20 cricket may rejuvenate the game and may even attract other countries.

  • Jay from San Diego on September 24, 2007, 17:01 GMT

    Well played India and Pakistan. Both teams defeated Australia which speaks volume to the recover post Caribbean World Cup.

    One feels for Misbah though. Where the hell was this guy before? A real class, cool and calm cricketer.

    Congrats India!

  • sharoz on September 24, 2007, 17:02 GMT

    awesome game! thts really all tht i can say...and gosh do i feeel for misbah..poor guy..but well played pakistan! we'r proud of u! and i think India have found an awesome captain in Dhoni anywayz cheers congratz 2 the indians