Canada October 28, 2007

Feeble Canada lose to Namibia

Namibia have beaten Canada by eight wickets in their Intercontinental Cup match at Windhoek
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Namibia have beaten Canada by eight wickets in their Intercontinental Cup match at Windhoek. Click here for the bulletin and leave your thoughts in the comments below.

Will Luke is assistant editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • wayne flemming on November 2, 2007, 4:47 GMT

    just a note for West Indies cricket. Isn't it about time the west indies cricket board took steps to include countries like Canada Bermuda and Argentina in their domestic comps ( what these countries could do with a bit of assistance like some of the millions thats just been invested in Caribbean cricket to promote it through the islands) Ireland Scotland ( so should Netherlands) have the benefit of English cricket and Namibia have the benefit of South African cricket so come on west indies get behind those developing countries that are close to you!

  • Cam on November 1, 2007, 19:41 GMT

    Why can't both teams be given ODI status? Why must we look at it as one team having to go down while another comes up? If a team is capable of playing well against another team of a higher division then they should be in the higher division as well. Canada is a good team that has performed well over many years now. You cannot deminish that because of one match. However, Namibia got the raw end when they lost in the WCQ and that is the simple truth. However, they have also been a good side for quite a while. They should be up there with the rest of the associates. Bermuda on the other hand has suffered defeat after defeat. They are truly not a deserving side of their position. Their predicament doesn't seem like changing any time soon.

  • Ash on October 31, 2007, 12:46 GMT

    it seems with these ICC intercontinental cup matches and other Associate matches etc, it seems the real problem is that you have a weakened visiting side (because of work commitments) always losing to a full strength home side! its clear! and its ridiculous! terrible cricket there... ICC need to turn them into at least semi professional players maybe have something with government or something to play the players representing their country

  • Jimmy Singh on October 29, 2007, 17:20 GMT

    Lets see. Yes it was a bad loss for Canada and great for Namibia. Should either team have one day status? No. Not yet. Associate Nations do not have the infrastructure in place. This would have been a different game if Canada were fielding their full side. Mohammad Iqbal's and Arvind Kandapah's performances do deserve a special mention as cricket in canada has always been dictated by the selectors. There are many worthy cricketers from Asian Sub Continent that deserve to be playing for the national side. I beleive the ICC need to invest some more money into associate nations to develope cricket. Many key players could not go on this Africa tour because they couldn't get the time off of work. Similar is the case with other associate nations. Until cricketers in these associate nations are rewarded as professional cricketers they should not have any ODI status.

  • Dennis W. on October 29, 2007, 13:56 GMT

    Namibia are poised to earn their one day status when the next ICC Trophy Competition rolls around. As it currently stands they missed out last time. No point in worrying about which other nations currently have ODI Status. Namibia have the benefit of being so close to South Africa that it would be a total failure if they didn't rise above Canada and Bermuda considering that those two nations don't have any such big test nation professional leauge to gain experience from. Ireland and Scotland also have this benefit being so close to England. Stop trying to trash other nations and continue with your own development and I'm sure you'll be fine. Bermuda is doing reasonably well considering we are a country of only 200 weekend playing cricketers who are all amature.( David Hemp excluded whose record is terrible.) Cricinfo staff writers never point that out when they report on our cricket games. They only want to trash the team at every opportunity. Oh by the way the U19 from Bermuda have qualified for the U19 World Cup so the future is looking brighter for Bermuda. Go Bermuda in spite of your size and what the Cricinfo Staff have to say...

  • farhan on October 29, 2007, 5:42 GMT

    kelly, you people treat ODI status too wrong its not that a single match would decide ur fate or one week performances.i think ICC should make fairer to associates the qualifaction. give them big ride.and then see which team is capable for longer period to play better.You can't jude a team from one tournament. that tournament was held in ireland, so there was different conditions have this tournament been held in another country. so ICC should need to adopt FIFA policy in qualification.one away match one home and possiblly one match some way in neutral venue in another continent among top 12 assocaites over period of 4 years and see which team is capable to get ODI status.

  • wayne flemming on October 29, 2007, 3:58 GMT

    i think its a good win by namibia and they are looking good in the leed up to the 2009 world cup qualifier. but lets not forget that sadly the canadian team have been weakend quite a lot sadly due to work commitments and ect. i am sure that with a full strenght canadian team that results would be very different. and as for the make up of the canadian team - so what!! all these players are elligabel to play for canada and thai brings people together from many ethnic back grounds wich should also be looked at as a possitive not just the negatives!! ( not much different to england realy). it is good for cricket that teams such as canada and ect are there having a go and any one who genuinely loves this beautifull game should be happy to see them there and encouaging them instead of critersizing them so much. lets totaly get behind the likes of kenya, ireland, scotland, netherlands, canada, namibia and even uganda, denmark and ect and appriciate what they have to offer. lets be possitive and look forward and encourage these nations towards the expansion of this great game of cricket. well to all these minnow countrys and heres to your continued growth and more support. also congradulations to the icc for having the vission and inisative to see what can be!

  • john boon on October 29, 2007, 0:30 GMT

    how much of theri development can be put down to their experience in the south african competitions i wonder? if canada had had similar experiences in the west indies lets say then maybe theyw ould be doing better than they currently are. perhaps a good way of getting these associates more game time is in the good old fashioned tour concept. send a kenya team to australia to play 3 first class games and an odi or two and see how they improve. as usual, money seems to be the key issue.

  • Kashif Saghar on October 28, 2007, 22:26 GMT

    I always believe Namibia is much better team then Canada and Bermuda. Bermuda got one day status because of good luck and edge past Namibia. I think the one day status should be decided after each 2 years depending on team’s performance. If so I think Namibia and Uganda will edge past Canada and certainly pathetic Bermuda.

  • Turlough Kelly on October 28, 2007, 15:00 GMT

    Anand, I don't think anyone in the Associate world looks down on Namibia (and certainly not for linguistic reasons.) They don't have ODI status because they didn't perform at the last ICC Trophy, simple as that. I personally would place them in the top four Associate nations currently, at least. It's a flaw in the system that the results of one competition have such far-reaching and enduring consequences, but nothing to do with prejudice.

  • wayne flemming on November 2, 2007, 4:47 GMT

    just a note for West Indies cricket. Isn't it about time the west indies cricket board took steps to include countries like Canada Bermuda and Argentina in their domestic comps ( what these countries could do with a bit of assistance like some of the millions thats just been invested in Caribbean cricket to promote it through the islands) Ireland Scotland ( so should Netherlands) have the benefit of English cricket and Namibia have the benefit of South African cricket so come on west indies get behind those developing countries that are close to you!

  • Cam on November 1, 2007, 19:41 GMT

    Why can't both teams be given ODI status? Why must we look at it as one team having to go down while another comes up? If a team is capable of playing well against another team of a higher division then they should be in the higher division as well. Canada is a good team that has performed well over many years now. You cannot deminish that because of one match. However, Namibia got the raw end when they lost in the WCQ and that is the simple truth. However, they have also been a good side for quite a while. They should be up there with the rest of the associates. Bermuda on the other hand has suffered defeat after defeat. They are truly not a deserving side of their position. Their predicament doesn't seem like changing any time soon.

  • Ash on October 31, 2007, 12:46 GMT

    it seems with these ICC intercontinental cup matches and other Associate matches etc, it seems the real problem is that you have a weakened visiting side (because of work commitments) always losing to a full strength home side! its clear! and its ridiculous! terrible cricket there... ICC need to turn them into at least semi professional players maybe have something with government or something to play the players representing their country

  • Jimmy Singh on October 29, 2007, 17:20 GMT

    Lets see. Yes it was a bad loss for Canada and great for Namibia. Should either team have one day status? No. Not yet. Associate Nations do not have the infrastructure in place. This would have been a different game if Canada were fielding their full side. Mohammad Iqbal's and Arvind Kandapah's performances do deserve a special mention as cricket in canada has always been dictated by the selectors. There are many worthy cricketers from Asian Sub Continent that deserve to be playing for the national side. I beleive the ICC need to invest some more money into associate nations to develope cricket. Many key players could not go on this Africa tour because they couldn't get the time off of work. Similar is the case with other associate nations. Until cricketers in these associate nations are rewarded as professional cricketers they should not have any ODI status.

  • Dennis W. on October 29, 2007, 13:56 GMT

    Namibia are poised to earn their one day status when the next ICC Trophy Competition rolls around. As it currently stands they missed out last time. No point in worrying about which other nations currently have ODI Status. Namibia have the benefit of being so close to South Africa that it would be a total failure if they didn't rise above Canada and Bermuda considering that those two nations don't have any such big test nation professional leauge to gain experience from. Ireland and Scotland also have this benefit being so close to England. Stop trying to trash other nations and continue with your own development and I'm sure you'll be fine. Bermuda is doing reasonably well considering we are a country of only 200 weekend playing cricketers who are all amature.( David Hemp excluded whose record is terrible.) Cricinfo staff writers never point that out when they report on our cricket games. They only want to trash the team at every opportunity. Oh by the way the U19 from Bermuda have qualified for the U19 World Cup so the future is looking brighter for Bermuda. Go Bermuda in spite of your size and what the Cricinfo Staff have to say...

  • farhan on October 29, 2007, 5:42 GMT

    kelly, you people treat ODI status too wrong its not that a single match would decide ur fate or one week performances.i think ICC should make fairer to associates the qualifaction. give them big ride.and then see which team is capable for longer period to play better.You can't jude a team from one tournament. that tournament was held in ireland, so there was different conditions have this tournament been held in another country. so ICC should need to adopt FIFA policy in qualification.one away match one home and possiblly one match some way in neutral venue in another continent among top 12 assocaites over period of 4 years and see which team is capable to get ODI status.

  • wayne flemming on October 29, 2007, 3:58 GMT

    i think its a good win by namibia and they are looking good in the leed up to the 2009 world cup qualifier. but lets not forget that sadly the canadian team have been weakend quite a lot sadly due to work commitments and ect. i am sure that with a full strenght canadian team that results would be very different. and as for the make up of the canadian team - so what!! all these players are elligabel to play for canada and thai brings people together from many ethnic back grounds wich should also be looked at as a possitive not just the negatives!! ( not much different to england realy). it is good for cricket that teams such as canada and ect are there having a go and any one who genuinely loves this beautifull game should be happy to see them there and encouaging them instead of critersizing them so much. lets totaly get behind the likes of kenya, ireland, scotland, netherlands, canada, namibia and even uganda, denmark and ect and appriciate what they have to offer. lets be possitive and look forward and encourage these nations towards the expansion of this great game of cricket. well to all these minnow countrys and heres to your continued growth and more support. also congradulations to the icc for having the vission and inisative to see what can be!

  • john boon on October 29, 2007, 0:30 GMT

    how much of theri development can be put down to their experience in the south african competitions i wonder? if canada had had similar experiences in the west indies lets say then maybe theyw ould be doing better than they currently are. perhaps a good way of getting these associates more game time is in the good old fashioned tour concept. send a kenya team to australia to play 3 first class games and an odi or two and see how they improve. as usual, money seems to be the key issue.

  • Kashif Saghar on October 28, 2007, 22:26 GMT

    I always believe Namibia is much better team then Canada and Bermuda. Bermuda got one day status because of good luck and edge past Namibia. I think the one day status should be decided after each 2 years depending on team’s performance. If so I think Namibia and Uganda will edge past Canada and certainly pathetic Bermuda.

  • Turlough Kelly on October 28, 2007, 15:00 GMT

    Anand, I don't think anyone in the Associate world looks down on Namibia (and certainly not for linguistic reasons.) They don't have ODI status because they didn't perform at the last ICC Trophy, simple as that. I personally would place them in the top four Associate nations currently, at least. It's a flaw in the system that the results of one competition have such far-reaching and enduring consequences, but nothing to do with prejudice.

  • Anand Nair on October 28, 2007, 14:45 GMT

    I think Namibia deserves One Day status. They play much better than Canada or Bermuda. I think they are looked down because their team is a Dutch and German speaking one, unlike the other English speaking teams. The Namibian team was very young and included some very promising players like the 17 year old Raymond van Schoor. Because of the poor financial state of cricket in Namibia they lost Alexei Kervezee to Netherlands. Atleast all the players are native Namibians, unlike the Canadian team which is full of foreign mercenaries like the Captain Dhaniram, who is 38 years old.

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  • Anand Nair on October 28, 2007, 14:45 GMT

    I think Namibia deserves One Day status. They play much better than Canada or Bermuda. I think they are looked down because their team is a Dutch and German speaking one, unlike the other English speaking teams. The Namibian team was very young and included some very promising players like the 17 year old Raymond van Schoor. Because of the poor financial state of cricket in Namibia they lost Alexei Kervezee to Netherlands. Atleast all the players are native Namibians, unlike the Canadian team which is full of foreign mercenaries like the Captain Dhaniram, who is 38 years old.

  • Turlough Kelly on October 28, 2007, 15:00 GMT

    Anand, I don't think anyone in the Associate world looks down on Namibia (and certainly not for linguistic reasons.) They don't have ODI status because they didn't perform at the last ICC Trophy, simple as that. I personally would place them in the top four Associate nations currently, at least. It's a flaw in the system that the results of one competition have such far-reaching and enduring consequences, but nothing to do with prejudice.

  • Kashif Saghar on October 28, 2007, 22:26 GMT

    I always believe Namibia is much better team then Canada and Bermuda. Bermuda got one day status because of good luck and edge past Namibia. I think the one day status should be decided after each 2 years depending on team’s performance. If so I think Namibia and Uganda will edge past Canada and certainly pathetic Bermuda.

  • john boon on October 29, 2007, 0:30 GMT

    how much of theri development can be put down to their experience in the south african competitions i wonder? if canada had had similar experiences in the west indies lets say then maybe theyw ould be doing better than they currently are. perhaps a good way of getting these associates more game time is in the good old fashioned tour concept. send a kenya team to australia to play 3 first class games and an odi or two and see how they improve. as usual, money seems to be the key issue.

  • wayne flemming on October 29, 2007, 3:58 GMT

    i think its a good win by namibia and they are looking good in the leed up to the 2009 world cup qualifier. but lets not forget that sadly the canadian team have been weakend quite a lot sadly due to work commitments and ect. i am sure that with a full strenght canadian team that results would be very different. and as for the make up of the canadian team - so what!! all these players are elligabel to play for canada and thai brings people together from many ethnic back grounds wich should also be looked at as a possitive not just the negatives!! ( not much different to england realy). it is good for cricket that teams such as canada and ect are there having a go and any one who genuinely loves this beautifull game should be happy to see them there and encouaging them instead of critersizing them so much. lets totaly get behind the likes of kenya, ireland, scotland, netherlands, canada, namibia and even uganda, denmark and ect and appriciate what they have to offer. lets be possitive and look forward and encourage these nations towards the expansion of this great game of cricket. well to all these minnow countrys and heres to your continued growth and more support. also congradulations to the icc for having the vission and inisative to see what can be!

  • farhan on October 29, 2007, 5:42 GMT

    kelly, you people treat ODI status too wrong its not that a single match would decide ur fate or one week performances.i think ICC should make fairer to associates the qualifaction. give them big ride.and then see which team is capable for longer period to play better.You can't jude a team from one tournament. that tournament was held in ireland, so there was different conditions have this tournament been held in another country. so ICC should need to adopt FIFA policy in qualification.one away match one home and possiblly one match some way in neutral venue in another continent among top 12 assocaites over period of 4 years and see which team is capable to get ODI status.

  • Dennis W. on October 29, 2007, 13:56 GMT

    Namibia are poised to earn their one day status when the next ICC Trophy Competition rolls around. As it currently stands they missed out last time. No point in worrying about which other nations currently have ODI Status. Namibia have the benefit of being so close to South Africa that it would be a total failure if they didn't rise above Canada and Bermuda considering that those two nations don't have any such big test nation professional leauge to gain experience from. Ireland and Scotland also have this benefit being so close to England. Stop trying to trash other nations and continue with your own development and I'm sure you'll be fine. Bermuda is doing reasonably well considering we are a country of only 200 weekend playing cricketers who are all amature.( David Hemp excluded whose record is terrible.) Cricinfo staff writers never point that out when they report on our cricket games. They only want to trash the team at every opportunity. Oh by the way the U19 from Bermuda have qualified for the U19 World Cup so the future is looking brighter for Bermuda. Go Bermuda in spite of your size and what the Cricinfo Staff have to say...

  • Jimmy Singh on October 29, 2007, 17:20 GMT

    Lets see. Yes it was a bad loss for Canada and great for Namibia. Should either team have one day status? No. Not yet. Associate Nations do not have the infrastructure in place. This would have been a different game if Canada were fielding their full side. Mohammad Iqbal's and Arvind Kandapah's performances do deserve a special mention as cricket in canada has always been dictated by the selectors. There are many worthy cricketers from Asian Sub Continent that deserve to be playing for the national side. I beleive the ICC need to invest some more money into associate nations to develope cricket. Many key players could not go on this Africa tour because they couldn't get the time off of work. Similar is the case with other associate nations. Until cricketers in these associate nations are rewarded as professional cricketers they should not have any ODI status.

  • Ash on October 31, 2007, 12:46 GMT

    it seems with these ICC intercontinental cup matches and other Associate matches etc, it seems the real problem is that you have a weakened visiting side (because of work commitments) always losing to a full strength home side! its clear! and its ridiculous! terrible cricket there... ICC need to turn them into at least semi professional players maybe have something with government or something to play the players representing their country

  • Cam on November 1, 2007, 19:41 GMT

    Why can't both teams be given ODI status? Why must we look at it as one team having to go down while another comes up? If a team is capable of playing well against another team of a higher division then they should be in the higher division as well. Canada is a good team that has performed well over many years now. You cannot deminish that because of one match. However, Namibia got the raw end when they lost in the WCQ and that is the simple truth. However, they have also been a good side for quite a while. They should be up there with the rest of the associates. Bermuda on the other hand has suffered defeat after defeat. They are truly not a deserving side of their position. Their predicament doesn't seem like changing any time soon.