Commonwealth Bank Series 2011-12 February 25, 2012

Dhoni says umpires should take Mankading call

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MS Dhoni has said it is unfair to put the onus on the fielding captain when an appeal for mankading is made, as it was against Lahiru Thirimanne during India's match against Sri Lanka on Tuesday. R Ashwin had spotted Thirimanne leave the crease well before the ball was bowled, he ran him out, and then appealed. The umpires asked Virender Sehwag, the captain then because Dhoni wasn't playing that game, if he wanted to go ahead with the appeal, and fearing criticism Sehwag withdrew the appeal.

Dhoni questioned the existence of the rule if the captain has to be asked every time. "I feel that [unfair] is what it [the act of asking the captain] is," Dhoni said. "Either there should be rules or there shouldn't be rules. Why are you asking the captain? Why are you putting him in a position? But I think the right thing was done. Because the captain was asked, we withdrew the appeal."

Dhoni said the right thing was done because India wanted to give Thirimanne the benefit of the doubt because these rules keep changing, and it is possible that players are not abreast with all the changes. "Because what happens is too many rules are getting changed," Dhoni said. "Often what's important is to give the batsman a fair chance, like a warning, saying, 'Okay, please don't do it.'"

Sehwag, though, said that Ashwin had warned Thirimanne. "A proper warning always is, you get him out and then it's a proper warning," Dhoni said. "Nobody listens to you until you do it."

However, Dhoni showed a much better understanding of the rule than the other two captains involved in the triangular. Mahela Jayawardene said he wouldn't even have removed the bails because he wants to keep the game "nice and clean". Michael Clarke said he didn't even like mankading, before saying only persistent backing-up would force him to contemplate it after proper warning. "I'm glad that nothing has come of it," Clarke said. "It's a part of the game I don't like. I don't like the mankad rule at all. I don't think you should be able to mankad."

Dhoni, though, said he understood the rule was changed last year to keep the batsman in their crease, to prevent that unfair advantage of a head-start even before a ball is bowled. Dhoni said if any party could be accused of unfair play in this case, it was the batsman, and not the fielding side, as the convention of spirit of cricket would dictate.

"It was important to appeal," Dhoni said. "The reason being it's in the law that the batsman can't go out. Often it is put on the opposition captain. For example, on Virender Sehwag. Saying, you know, it's wrong. If it's part of the rule, it's not wrong. Of course to take the decision or not the decision is something different.

"Eventually if you are saying somebody was cheating - if I may use the word cheating, you can use some other word - in this case, then the batsman getting out is the one who is cheating, because he is not allowed to do that. So I think it was a fair thing to do. You can't always have the batsman going so far ahead because he can complete the run if it goes to short fine or point or short third, he is in a better position to complete the run. I think it was a good decision. At the end that he was not taken out by our skipper."

Edited by Siddarth Ravindran

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • CricketFanInLosAngles on February 27, 2012, 22:11 GMT

    Thirimanne was clearly at fault. Even after the incident, he was shown on TV many times as leaving the crease way ahead of the ball release. He had total disregard to rules. Until someone from his team came during a break and told him to do otherwise.

  • on February 26, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    Happy to see "India is Out".

  • on February 26, 2012, 15:08 GMT

    Dhoni is doing rubbish. He is ruining his career by his silly talks. Less talk, more work.

  • on February 26, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    Same belief... Why double standards?? When it comes to Asia or esp. India? Mr. Umpires??

  • willsrustynuts on February 26, 2012, 12:51 GMT

    This kind of thing is ruining the game for the fan. I am tired of people being run out because the bat is upside down and not grounded even though they are 2 feet behind the line. I am tired of wicket keepers stumping batsmen because super slow mo showed that they had their foot in the air for a milisecond or pad bat calls when the ball brushes the pad a microsecond before hitting the bat (thanks again to slow mo). Cricket is simple. Bat. Ball. Stumps. Bowlers and fielders versus batsmen. If I want to play with technology I will get the Xbox out.

    Kind of agree with Dhoni here. The umpires should rule. However, the bowler should still warn the batsman and the umpire should make a note.

  • on February 26, 2012, 11:54 GMT

    one way to completely go about this confusion, whether to mankade or not, is to change the rule entirely. If the batsman at the non-striker's end backs-up and leaves the crease before the ball is released/delivered by the bowler, 1 run must be deducted from the batting team's score if runs are scored on that particular delivery, just like the short-run rule. This rule will also be justified since the batsman at the non-striker's end was never in the crease at the time of delivery.

  • santanuXI on February 26, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    Well written Karthik Nanjappan- but obviously cricinfo and its international readers' interpretation of spirit of cricket is something through which they can indulge on their favourite passtime "India bashing". I hope sportswriters having some respect for cricket history (don't have much expectation from cricinfo in that regard) stop using the word Mankading- its an insult to the great allrounder (and here the so called 'victims' are actually cheating).

  • nilb on February 26, 2012, 6:11 GMT

    If this goes on, we'll see fast bowlers practising hitting the non-strickers wicket when releasing the ball. Come on, Shewag and Tendulkar did the MOST NOBLE thing by taking back the appeal. If Dhoni goes on with this he's only damaging his reputation.

  • gdalvi on February 26, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    By same logic, I think every batsman should also get 1 warning for putting his leg before wicket or for handling the ball. Why is it only fair to warn someone for stealing a run, which if he is short of crease on other side, he would be given out?

  • nilb on February 26, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    @ami77 Oh. please get real!! that's the reason India lost the match? It's a shame that Ashwin even appealed.. everyone knows he didn't warn.

  • CricketFanInLosAngles on February 27, 2012, 22:11 GMT

    Thirimanne was clearly at fault. Even after the incident, he was shown on TV many times as leaving the crease way ahead of the ball release. He had total disregard to rules. Until someone from his team came during a break and told him to do otherwise.

  • on February 26, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    Happy to see "India is Out".

  • on February 26, 2012, 15:08 GMT

    Dhoni is doing rubbish. He is ruining his career by his silly talks. Less talk, more work.

  • on February 26, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    Same belief... Why double standards?? When it comes to Asia or esp. India? Mr. Umpires??

  • willsrustynuts on February 26, 2012, 12:51 GMT

    This kind of thing is ruining the game for the fan. I am tired of people being run out because the bat is upside down and not grounded even though they are 2 feet behind the line. I am tired of wicket keepers stumping batsmen because super slow mo showed that they had their foot in the air for a milisecond or pad bat calls when the ball brushes the pad a microsecond before hitting the bat (thanks again to slow mo). Cricket is simple. Bat. Ball. Stumps. Bowlers and fielders versus batsmen. If I want to play with technology I will get the Xbox out.

    Kind of agree with Dhoni here. The umpires should rule. However, the bowler should still warn the batsman and the umpire should make a note.

  • on February 26, 2012, 11:54 GMT

    one way to completely go about this confusion, whether to mankade or not, is to change the rule entirely. If the batsman at the non-striker's end backs-up and leaves the crease before the ball is released/delivered by the bowler, 1 run must be deducted from the batting team's score if runs are scored on that particular delivery, just like the short-run rule. This rule will also be justified since the batsman at the non-striker's end was never in the crease at the time of delivery.

  • santanuXI on February 26, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    Well written Karthik Nanjappan- but obviously cricinfo and its international readers' interpretation of spirit of cricket is something through which they can indulge on their favourite passtime "India bashing". I hope sportswriters having some respect for cricket history (don't have much expectation from cricinfo in that regard) stop using the word Mankading- its an insult to the great allrounder (and here the so called 'victims' are actually cheating).

  • nilb on February 26, 2012, 6:11 GMT

    If this goes on, we'll see fast bowlers practising hitting the non-strickers wicket when releasing the ball. Come on, Shewag and Tendulkar did the MOST NOBLE thing by taking back the appeal. If Dhoni goes on with this he's only damaging his reputation.

  • gdalvi on February 26, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    By same logic, I think every batsman should also get 1 warning for putting his leg before wicket or for handling the ball. Why is it only fair to warn someone for stealing a run, which if he is short of crease on other side, he would be given out?

  • nilb on February 26, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    @ami77 Oh. please get real!! that's the reason India lost the match? It's a shame that Ashwin even appealed.. everyone knows he didn't warn.

  • LillianThomson on February 26, 2012, 5:54 GMT

    Earlier in this thread I wondered yesterday whether Dhoni could reduce India's reputation for sportsmanship even lower. Then today he appealed for Hussey to be given out "Obstructed the Field". Is this man related to Javed Miandad? They seem to have taken lessons in ethical behaviour from an alley cat.

  • on February 26, 2012, 5:34 GMT

    jonathonjosephs got it right. No other team in world cricket would allow the Mankad appeal, and Mahela is a gentleman and would be true to his word; Sri Lanka do play "nice and clean" cricket as it should be played (and I'm an Aussie supporter). While Sehwag did the honorable thing and not take it further, it seems as if Dhoni may have 'pulled the trigger' if he'd been there. And this is not the first time they've appealed on this rule in recent times. Let's not forget how preachy the BCCI and the Indian team were about "the spirit of cricket" during the 2007 Australian tour. Hypocrisy seems rampant ......

  • CRICSL on February 26, 2012, 5:17 GMT

    Dhoni has appealed for DJ's wicket for the batsman obstructing the field. What's with India captains and run outs! DJ could be in trouble here. Full ball on off stump, Wade drives to Raina at short cover for a quick single. The throw was heading towards Dhoni, DJ was unintentionally in the way as he ran a straight line from his crease. He puts his right hand out to stop the ball from hitting him. Mind you, the ball wasn't travelling at pace, it wouldn't have wounded DJ if it had hit him. Can you be given out for doing that? According to the new ICC rules, yes. Dhoni has asked for it.. This will be harsh on DJ, but by the rules this could be out. Bowden and Taufel are taking their time over this with the third umpire having a close look. The third umpire has decided that DJ didn't put his hand out to save his wicket, but to save himself from damage. Dhoni is explaining to the umpires that he thinks otherwise. The spirit of cricket discussions can begin afresh! LOL

  • on February 26, 2012, 4:58 GMT

    how can ashwin gave warning to Batsman ? Ashwin should have told umpire about the batsman to make it a legal warning .. and india is desperate for win they can use anything to get a win

  • on February 26, 2012, 4:51 GMT

    There u go its not sportive to say that India Lost the match just because of that reason. And as dhoni said the warniing should have been official, where ashwin shud have taken the bails off and warned Lahiru, that way evryone wud have been aware right. After one official warning its upto the umpires to give out the batsman. The only reason why the umpires asked shewag was, there was no official warning.

    Its fair though as die hard fans we always find excuses and faults to justify our team's loses. At the end of the day the better team wins. Just accept that fact as a cricket Lover.

  • Chrishan on February 26, 2012, 3:24 GMT

    Once again rather than looking into India's dismal performance overseas, the media has shifted its attention as to how India played with the spirit of cricket. The same thing happened in England. India goes down 4-0 in the Tests, 4-0 (1 tie) in the ODIs and the talk of that tour is how Dhoni called Ian Bell back. It's time India stopped making pathetic excuses, and acted like World Champions.

  • ami77 on February 26, 2012, 2:23 GMT

    I think that was THE reason India lost that match. Other captaions don't like to use this rule as they think it's not good for the spirit of the game. From Indian team according to Dhoni he and Ashwin were aware of this new rule but not the other bowlers. Therefore as a new member in team even Lahiru Thirimanna might not have been aware of this new rule. Still Dhoni thins they should have use it and got him out in that match.

    What if MANKAD is only allowed to use for Indian bowlers and others can play without it as they all seem to be happy that way.

  • Simoc on February 26, 2012, 1:56 GMT

    Definetly weak umpiring.

  • on February 26, 2012, 1:52 GMT

    I had expressed earlier that "Sehwag made a mistake" in agreeing to repeal the appeal by Ashwin. Actually, the much larger blame should rest on the shoulders of the Umpires for asking Sehwag to reconsider, as Dhoni is putting in this article. It is a clearly written rule now. "Soft Dismissal" suggestion is an absolut baloney. You need to be aggressive in a contest.

  • colombo62 on February 26, 2012, 0:24 GMT

    Dhoni I am sorry it"s over. What you did was not correct too Vs. Australia. Hope you can win the game. Indians should admit that sri lankans did very well and a better team.

  • vj3478 on February 26, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    @Harry Virk'n'Harry_Kool... simply awesome.. super thinking:)

  • dilscoop_uk on February 25, 2012, 23:28 GMT

    Cricket is no longer a gentlemen's game . The reason I said this is because of those ENG, AUS, SA and NZ unnecessory sledging during the games especially when they r loosing .I am a big Fan of Dhoni and really appreciate what he said . If the batsman was warned once and Umpire was aware of that then Umpire should give his decisions without any further delays . from a Pakistani Cricket fan.

  • SRT_GENIUS on February 25, 2012, 23:25 GMT

    Take that Mahela! He was acting all high & mighty after the incident making statements which bordered on calling Indian cheats. Well... take it back Mahela, stuck it!

  • orangtan on February 25, 2012, 23:18 GMT

    First the Bell incident and now Thirimanne. The Indians take the soft option and still get creamed with Mahela pontificating that he would never even have removed the bails ( well, of-course he wouldn't since he doesn't bowl does he?), then Clarke weighing in with his ' sporting' comments ( Australia still trying to erase the big black blot of the Chappell under-arm ball ?), Sri Lankan fans spewing invective at anything Indian. Just play hard ball and take the consequences, don't worry about Tony Greig and his cronies.

  • OttawaRocks on February 25, 2012, 22:57 GMT

    Harry Virk's suggestion is the best. Now lets make it a rule: if the runner leaves the crease before the ball is released from the bowler's hands its a short run. Perfect & done! Get to work ICC!

  • on February 25, 2012, 22:12 GMT

    I donno what other sport has this kind of allowance. Even in baseball, the pitcher can throw to any base to run him out!. Mankad - is a wrong name to it. It is an insult to Indians and they have allowed the name to continue so long!!!! It should be just run out!

  • brittop on February 25, 2012, 22:09 GMT

    I have never understood why it is considered unsporting to Mankad someone without warning, but not considered unsporting to be backing up too far before the bowler has bowled. Perhaps it comes from the era when "gentleman batted and players bowled". That said, it is a legitimate argument as to whether losing your wicket for backing up too far is too great a sanction. Perhaps @Harry Virk's suggestion that the run should be declared "short" is a way to go. I'm not sure, though, as I think this will give the umpires too much to do, given that they have to be looking for no balls. You could leave it to the bowler in that he should not bowl the ball, but that he doesn't have the right to run a batsman out. Not sure that this would work either and you may need the ultimate sanction in place to convince batsmen to desist.

  • Harry_Kool on February 25, 2012, 21:58 GMT

    @Harry Virk. Actually you have made a point I have never considered & when I think about it, that would solve ALL issues. It would also takeaway the potential wicket problem. You do get called for a short run when it is short and the umpires can simply say the run was NOT commenced from the crease at the point of delivery so a short run would be called, thus negating any benefit form the head start. Good point, I like it!

  • on February 25, 2012, 21:55 GMT

    Dhoni is 100 percent correct. If you looked at the very next bowl Thirimanne didn't learn the lesson from it and left the crease early the very next bowl. Now what can one say about that? That the runner is taking unfair advantage every single time. The umpires should have simply gone ahead and given the runner out. Very unfair for Sehwag and Co.

  • Philip_Gnana on February 25, 2012, 21:16 GMT

    There is a rule and that rule has to be implemented by the on-field umpire. As Ashwin had already warned Lahiru, he was within his right to run him out. The fault here is with the umpire. We will now see how India reacts when they play SL. Being a SL supporter, I agree that Dhoni is the only one who seems to be talking sense. Dhoni has always made sense other than of course the DRS where he wants technology to be 100% correct but does accept the 100% wrong human error!!!! The Umpires need to speak up now about the Mankad rule. Philip Gnana, Surrey

  • reddy4cric on February 25, 2012, 21:15 GMT

    U Srilankan guyz.... u lost ur balls and image when u put no ball to stop one batsmen intentional century....dnt u feel shame to point out Dhoni's mankind....he is the only captain who recalled the got out england batsman couple of months age. Watch your backs when you pointing out others. FFs

  • AnotherCricketFan on February 25, 2012, 21:04 GMT

    Wow, one has to admire Dhoni for his choice of words and then being politically correct about it. He basically called it cheating - take it Clarke and Mahela. You guys are allowing cheating to go on - whatever your bias may be. If the law says that balls can not be tampered with and if a bowler tampers it - to be "nice and clean" one can ignore it? If you call that cheating - this is too !

    Normally I can not stand Dhoni speak - but this one is awesome.

  • Nampally on February 25, 2012, 20:49 GMT

    I personally feel the Umpire goofed up big time. Umpire's job is to follow the rule to the last word. The rule says Mankading is OUT. So the Umpire raises his index finger to declare OUT. ICC should fine the Umpire for not implementing the rule - i.e. Not Doing his Job!. Dhoni is absolutely right. When there is a rule enforce it.You do not go to the fielding captain & put him in a position where he is forced to withdraw the appeal "in the name of spirit of Game". Why is Umpire standing there when he cannot do his job? I don't care what Clarke or anybody else thinks of the rule. Umpire's job is to follow the rule strictly forgetting the emotional aspects or referring to the tird party. As simple as that!

  • Lallubhai on February 25, 2012, 20:39 GMT

    Rules are there to be followed ,SIMPLE AS THAT .

  • deception01 on February 25, 2012, 20:24 GMT

    Before running a batsman out the next time, the fielding team should give him a warning, asking him to run faster the next time. Because running the batsman out without a warning would be against the spirit of the game.

  • hhillbumper on February 25, 2012, 20:23 GMT

    Imagine if Tendulkar has been mankaded by one of the western countries.Then it would be all hell breaking lose and people picking on poor subcontinental countries. Is there anything that India won't try to do to win.Even funnier as they still lost as usual. Go Home and give it up.

  • Niroshy on February 25, 2012, 20:14 GMT

    Yes Dhoni you are right...this not your problem but cnt help...indians are the founders of Mankading...it was in 1947...its in their blood...VINOO Manked is the person who ran out aussi batsman Bill Brown in the same SHAME fashion and thereafter the rule came named as Makading...what shame INDIA...

  • on February 25, 2012, 20:06 GMT

    Its a very normal thing, even its was in last few overs and yeah i hate this stupid rule as well.. I was played cricket for years and yeah i know its as a personal experience its happen without your knowledge.. So why we should apply any rules for something like that ? We need to understand, Its even Indian cricketers doing it, No Only em, Rest of cricketers doing it when its come to such a situation.. So eyes open people, Its a bad rule and its insulting the name of the game.. Yeah, I guess Indian's are so curious about this because they know they gonna lose this series, And they looking for cover.. So yeah don't be such a ridiculous.. Hail Cricket, \m/ !!

  • on February 25, 2012, 20:01 GMT

    why don't umpire take the call to just dock the run in case he finds the player to be out of crease before the ball is delivered ( just like a short run ) . Just like he checks no ball, umpire should see if batsman leaves the crease before ball is released.

    This would be a pretty acceptable way to control this unfair advantage for batting side.

    Any Comments?

  • on February 25, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    Dhoni makes sense...mankading is unfair, period!

  • KarachiKid on February 25, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    Guys - I am a huge fan of Dhoni the captain and Dhoni the player. But time and again I have noticed that his post-match comments and press conference comments are really one sided, never priasing the other team (winning or losing), always fidning something to crib about. I think he can live without it. He doesnt need this negativity.

  • danishsyed88 on February 25, 2012, 19:28 GMT

    Yes... Dhoni is absolutely right on this one. Plz ppl, i don't understand y u should be criticizing him for saying the right thing. P.S. I'm a Pakistani

  • GSP17 on February 25, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    Dhoni is 100% correct.. Its funny to see SL & AUS speaking about SPIRIT OF THE GAME.. Bowling a no-ball to deny opposition batsman his century and bowling a under arm ball to avoid scoring 6 for victory are Spirit in their books... I am surprised to see SL not even accepting their batsman's mistake.. Even after Mankaded him, still SL batsman stood far outside the crease when other bowlers bowled...

  • ujverm on February 25, 2012, 18:52 GMT

    This form of dismissing a batsman is completely legal and in line with the spirit of the game. There is nothing like starting a new controversy. Because its a rule so no one should criticize if a batsman is out. There is no making excuse but it should be discussed a lot so that it becomes a regularity to dismiss a batsman when he tries to gain unfair advantage. And there is only one reason for it - because its a rule. I would like to cite an example when a batsman plays a straight short and the ball just flicks the fingers of the bowler and hits the wickets at the other end. In this case too the batsman would be backing up and thats why he gets out. This dismissal is termed in the spirit of the game even if the batsman is dismissed accidently. Then why mankading is considered against the spirit of the game. Its time we accept this form of dismissal as a regular one.

  • samuda on February 25, 2012, 18:46 GMT

    Hilarious !!!!! Typical indians ..... Sad that they became a part of common wealth triangular but must tell you this is a game of gentlements, in any form of a game most important thing is Spirit so we all are bond to keep the spirit of this wonderful game... i wonder why only india has so many problems concerns ... its really shame of you guys .... First play some good cricket then you can ask for what you deserve ......

  • on February 25, 2012, 18:43 GMT

    What bull! We didnt see ashwin warning anyone. he took off the bales and appealed too. Thats not good sportmanship.

  • on February 25, 2012, 18:37 GMT

    For this we are not calling cricket.it is bullshit.If Aswin want to warn Thirimanna why he remove bails.Now what happen to Dhoni why he talking too much why India looooooooooose the match. nothing Else Is it not .If India not loose then What you will tell baby.

  • dnkrish on February 25, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    This is not about Dhoni or Indian team. This is about fair game rules. Mankading is not at all unfair when you clearly understand the undue advantage the runner is taking by putting pressure on bowler. Runner will be able to reach quickly complete the run but the batsman will take time to complete the run which puts pressure on the bowler to act to make him run out.

  • dnkrish on February 25, 2012, 17:55 GMT

    Mankading is fair when the runner is taking unfair advantage of moving out of the crease before the ball is bowled. In my opinion, giving warning and asking the captain is all a drama.

  • on February 25, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    i guess Batsman should protect the spirit of the game and do not try to gain this type of advantages, i am a Sri Lankan fan and i guess Lahiru Thirmanne was wrong, umpires should have warned him in case and give him out if he repeats because he earned it himself.

  • aahahaa on February 25, 2012, 17:43 GMT

    in this commercial age and day everything is fair I guess. if the ns runs b4 he is supposesd to run him out.no fault of the bowler. makes good viewing.the game is going down the TOILET, but then who cares, not certainly the ICC.

  • K.Jas on February 25, 2012, 17:16 GMT

    @people having problem with "Mankading", please consider this scenario: It's an ongoing match. The field is set. Batsman is ready. Bowler is ready. Bolwler starts running to deliver the ball. Non-striker is also taking a start. Non-striker is already a few feet outside. The bowler delivers the ball. His foot is outside the crease. Umpire calls it a no ball. So Bowler & the feelding side is penalized for overstepping. The Ball hits striker's pad and there's no close-in fielder. Non stiker is halfway through the pitch by then so both batsmen complete the run easily. Now two people broke the cricketing law in this instance. The feelding side gets penalized with 2 runs, the batting side gets 2 extra runs PLUS an extra ball. But if the bowler had pulled out of the delivery stride and run the non-striker out, it would be wrong and unsportsman like. REALLY?

    Moral: Srilankans and non-Indian fans quit being hypocrites. Deep down everybody knows Lahiru Thirmane was wrong and umpires as well.

  • CricOr on February 25, 2012, 17:16 GMT

    You are right Dhoni. But you are wrong in saying only Shewag, Sachin and Gambhir should be rotated you also should join them in the rotation cause you are also are growing old ( more senior to Gambhir) you also included in giving 20 runs extra you complained about and a few wickets maybe

  • CanuckCricket on February 25, 2012, 17:14 GMT

    Indian cricket drama again, Episode 2 Down Under. Remember Episode 1 in 2008? Indian cricket created an "international situation" after the Sydney Test, vilifying umpires and the Australian team. So, other Asian countries like Sri Lanka supported the BCCI. And that is why we got DRS. Now its 2012, Episode 1 is forgotten, we don't have DRS, why again? Stop the drama, play cricket!

  • Deepfreezed on February 25, 2012, 17:01 GMT

    I think this is a cultural thing. Do whatever that is needed to get ahead.

  • Cpt.Meanster on February 25, 2012, 16:52 GMT

    Too many stupid comments here. If the law is there in the books then Dhoni is 100% RIGHT. Some people have too many problems with Indian cricket. Everything and anything Indian cricketers or the BCCI do then everybody has an issue. For GOD SAKES... it's an ICC rule people !!! it's NOT a Dhoni rule or a BCCI rule. Some people have so much hate towards Indian cricket that they are blind to everything. Grow up people. In my books Lahiru Thimimane was OUT ! Ashwin was RIGHT ! period !

  • aashishhmr on February 25, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    Hehe. Why get personal in these things? The question is that is it legitimate? If yes then why not use it?

  • sathish008 on February 25, 2012, 16:30 GMT

    well said Dhoni. you are good in going by rules. But we need good cricket from your team.

  • vj3478 on February 25, 2012, 16:29 GMT

    Mahela seems to be on high after getting his paycheck or at least he knew it was coming when he made that statement. He has once asked his bowler to bowl a no-ball to leave the batsman stranded on 99. Where was his spirit of cricket? And Clarke might have forgotten the history after he became captain. He stood in crease even after a nick and claimed a grounded catch once (of Ganguly in Sydney test). and to all who say the warning should be official.. is it a rule? and more over Ashwin came out and said he did warn the batsman and if you feel he didnt, you shud ask the batsman to come out and answer that. There are very few people who always play like gentleman and Dhoni is certainly one among them, and not Mahela or Clark.

  • newporttiger on February 25, 2012, 16:10 GMT

    I am the biggest hater of Indian cricket team and Dhoni personally. But I am 100% with Dhoni on this one. If any controversy occurs on Mankading issues, the batsman should be in it and criticized. It's the batsman trying to gain "unfair" advantage and not the bowling side.

  • RaviNarla on February 25, 2012, 15:47 GMT

    Why is too much being read about what Dhoni said. Let us assume that a batsman gets injured and he wants a runner. Would the umpires say ask the opposition captain if he is ok we are ok. If the captain is being asked for such decisions and then for by runners too it should be that way too. If the captain denies then he should be blamed because he is unfair. Wake up guys. The umpires are clearly bending the rules. When it comes to law there is no humanitarian grounds or fair or unfair play. It is a law and you have to abide by it. Umpires are certified by ICC and it is their call to interpret the law in right way and pass a verdict. Like Dhoni said everything is fair if it is within the laws. Just follow the rules. It is the same for every team.

  • maddy20 on February 25, 2012, 15:38 GMT

    @Sajitha Dharmasiri Wake up and smell the coffee. If you do not know the rules sit at home . He is not making excuses, he is speaking frankly about the rules. I was surprised to see that Thiramanne was repeating the same thing even after being warned. And these Lankan clowns are bashing Dhoni? Infact you were lucky that there was no Dhoni in that game. Tomorrow you will be thrashed royally. Wait and watch!

  • AnandRaman on February 25, 2012, 15:35 GMT

    I think Indian team Media Manager should interfere every time Dhoni speaks more than a sentence or two. He simply cant communicate quick and clear causing unnecessary confrontations. Great Captain but for any question, the answer is lengthy, repetitive and sometimes pointless. And maybe the media manager can show some value 'somewhere' ...

  • yoogi on February 25, 2012, 15:29 GMT

    Fair Point by Dhoni, especially when the umpire asks do you appeal, it is almost like, telling him "the international community is up against you Mr sehwag, do I make myself clear?, you still want to be a bad boy and want that wicket?" The umpire has done wrong, and he should be reprimanded .

    Actually that wicket, or that of Bell for that matter could have become a catalyst for Team India. But just like sehwag said, the team is soft.

  • on February 25, 2012, 15:26 GMT

    Some of the readers views clearly shows how this game has gone in favour of batsmen. Lemme ask all who call mankading a cheap trick, will you all accept if a bowler bowls an inch or even half over the line. What difference in speed and accuracy does this few inches make? If a batsman backing up 2-3 steps clearly has an advantage of stealing a single in death overs, he is still allowed to run just after the ball in released. If people argue batsmen should be allowed to back up few feets before a bowler even bowls, then bowlers can surely argue why a few inches above the bowling line called unfair or no balls with free hit complements.....do we play cricket giving fair chance to bat and ball now a days? grow up guys

  • shane78 on February 25, 2012, 15:25 GMT

    Mr Dhoni Either you should play Cricket or be a Model... CAN YOU DO ANY 1 ????

  • on February 25, 2012, 15:24 GMT

    Batsmen can be run out by a fraction of second and so he can recover the fraction of second by advancing well ahead of bowler releasing the ball and mitigate his chances of getting run-out. So, this should not be allowed "Plain and Simple". And if there are appropriate warning before getting a player out , then I term is pretty fair exactly what Jayawardena wants "Clean and Fair".

  • on February 25, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    Dhoni has too much problem with everything... I think next he will ask that India win all their matches automatically!!! Somebody please tell Dhoni that matches are won by playing good fair cricket, by talented players who can perform at big stage and not through cheap tricks.

  • itsTIME4ELImination on February 25, 2012, 14:52 GMT

    This chap (Dhoni) should stop weeping about missed balls, mankading and nonsense. He's there to play good cricket. Play good cricket. That's how you win games.

  • yorkshire-86 on February 25, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    Clarke said 'I dont think you should be able to mankad'. No, the non striker should be perfectly entitled to be halfway to the strikers end before the ball is bowled. In fact why not go the whole hog and allow the non striker to stand next to the square leg umpire before the bowler even starts his run up, and let the striker block the ball and run to the bowlers end knowing his partner has no chance of being run out (conventionally or by Mankad). What is wrong with mankadding? The batsmen is attempting a run, he should be able to be run out. How far will it go? No appeals for lbw as it is unsportsmanlike?

  • torsha on February 25, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    Dhoni you are right 100% ....

  • chapathishot on February 25, 2012, 14:31 GMT

    All those in the forum blaming Dhoni should read this http://blogs.espncricinfo.com/diffstrokes/archives/2012/02/mankading_is_no_grey_area_1.phpand comment

  • saintsinister on February 25, 2012, 14:23 GMT

    I completely agree with Dhoni on this.. There is a reason there are rules, dont ask the captain if there already is a rule regarding that certain topic.. this to me is more like umpire giving his job away, first refering anything for no-ball checks or run out checks even though a blind person can see the situation as well n now this.. Also completely agree with the cheating part of batsmen backing up, it is truly against the law.. i am a paki n i supported srilanka in that match, but whats right is right..

  • on February 25, 2012, 14:09 GMT

    Hey indians, is that the best reason you could find for your failure..so weak people..

  • Ray24 on February 25, 2012, 14:05 GMT

    WOW -Imagine if any team had done it against India. Hell would've been raised. The rule is called Mankadding, as it was attempted against India. Propaganda masters. Can't believe this non-sense. India cricket is stooping so low, that if BCCI doesn't get its act together, they may become an ordinary team even in India.

  • Lallubhai on February 25, 2012, 13:51 GMT

    The LAW that says the batsmen can be given OUT if they purposefully block a run out attempt with thier bodies has been passed, WHY ? Because the ICC believed that batsmen where CHEATING in this regard. Thats why they also made it an OFFICIAL law to be able to mankad .WHY , because batsmen have CHEATED in this regard .

  • cnksnk on February 25, 2012, 13:45 GMT

    The whole episode is joke. Tomorrow will the umpires ask the fielding side to withdraw their appeal for an LBW when he is on 99 - just to give the batsmen time to score a 100. The umpire should have ruled the batsmen out. IN addition the rules do not talk of a warning being given. So tomorrow the first time the ball hits the pads, the bowler must warn the batsmen that the next time they will appeal for LBW. IN addition while Dhoni was trying to polite the excuse that the rules have been changed and hence he was not sure if the batsmen was aware was to put it mildly being polite. If when one plays at the highest level you are not abreast with the rules then either one should not be playing the game or you need to suffer till. you learn the rules. Also I am surprised that Viru was more bothered with public opinion when he withdrew the appeal rather than look at it as a legitimate form of getting out...

  • jackassbd on February 25, 2012, 13:40 GMT

    In yesterdays match Michael Hussy was out of his crease a couple of times. At that time the bowler and the captain were not aware of it so was the umpire. But at the end of the day Sri Lanka won that match. I don't know why people are making this a huge issue. This is a gentlemen's game so play it like that.

  • Empty-Sequence on February 25, 2012, 13:40 GMT

    @Chamila Wijesinghe - Mankading might not be as shameful as- A captain threatening to abandon a match, so that his strike bowler may exceed the tolerance limit of bending while bowling a delivery or urging a youngster to throw a Noball or creating controversy over a WC final toss.

  • satish619chandar on February 25, 2012, 13:28 GMT

    If u really know the game, there are no excuses here for some so called fans who think they are mart and are showing some senseless sarcasm.. Wish SL captains are posed questions which the Indian captains get in media.. MJ simply said "I wont be complaining" as he was the benefitor of the issue.. Had Thirimanne been out and SL lost the game, he wouldn't still be quiet? Retaining composure when you are at receiving end is very tough guys..

  • vickyrocky on February 25, 2012, 13:01 GMT

    Common Sense prevailed in the End that Thirimanne was not given out. However as Dhoni said onus is on the Battin team to stop backing up too much before the bowler bowls his delivery and it is ridiculous of the umpires goin to the fielding captain to reconsider the appeal. Everyone should understand a rule is a rule you cant back up too much and if u do that no warnings nothing should be given and u have every rite to get him out for taking unfair advantage. Umpire only in extreme circumstances should go for asking the batting team captain to reconsider the appeal as backing up too much is purely to take undue advantage of the situation and there is every intention of a batsman to cheat in such situation.

  • Ravenous on February 25, 2012, 12:52 GMT

    Mankading or whatever is a cheap, despicable, contemptible action which has no class even if it is in the rule books. It's why it has got an Indian name.

  • kumarcoolbuddy on February 25, 2012, 12:52 GMT

    Let's put Dhoni, SL aside for sometime. People who are saying mankading rule is wrong and cheap. I have q question...this is just an example...when bowler didn't complete his ball but runner to make runs easy already runs half of the pitch and despite bowler knowing that should not do anything? Isn't it runner cheap in that?.... Now SL fans who are talking about mankading rule of ICC...ICC rules are so funny and weird that even Malinga with worst ever throw action is accepted in international cricket. If you ask your heart you would definitely deny Malinga's bowling action.

  • on February 25, 2012, 12:40 GMT

    Indians alwas get into controversies like this because they think too much of themselves and too little of others. They are so full of themselves.

  • CricketingStargazer on February 25, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    I have been in this situation in a club match. The batsman was way down the wicket by the time that I bowled. The solution was quite simple: a polite request to the umpire to warn the batsman that he was backing up to far... he stopped doing it. If you want to back up there is actually a simple (and fair) way to do it: wait a little way behind the crease and, as the bowler reaches it, start to walk in quickly alongside him, making sure that your bat stays IN the crease... it gives you momentum down the pitch if you have to run and you can accelerate much faster than from a standing start. It's not rocket science. If a batsman persists in backing up too far he is obtaining an unfair advantage and the bowler should have the right to run him out without any sense of guilt *provided that a clear warning has been given*.

  • on February 25, 2012, 12:36 GMT

    if Shewag was 100% sure Ashwin warned, it was a simple decision..give the batsman "OUT"..The question is did Ashwin really warn Lahiru? no body saw it..did anyone ask Lahiru he was warned...

  • on February 25, 2012, 12:32 GMT

    the decision with Ian Bell was right coz he wasnt taking any advantage.. he just thought that session was over. But here thirmane should have been given out. I guess many of us remember the match when INZI was given out (OBSTRUCTING THE FIELD). why didn't u asked the captain at that time, if mankading is wrong that was also wrong..ICC should be much more specific and with their rules and umpires should take care that it is been followed accordingly.

  • jaredude on February 25, 2012, 12:24 GMT

    Would like it to be if the umpire sees the non-striker obviously leaves his ground early, make it possible to call the run one short. I feel like this is a non-excessive (ie not gonna cost the batsman his wicket) result for a minor sort of offense really.

  • on February 25, 2012, 12:20 GMT

    When we are going to home after losing consecutive games.we should have to tell something to the world for generalization our defects even without considering the spirit of the game,,Dhoni is saying these for that purpose

  • Ameega on February 25, 2012, 12:19 GMT

    Best thing would have happened is ruling Thirimanne out. However Sehwag had foreseen the consequences and withdrawn the appeal. By the way, I would love if Dhoni applies anti-DRS theory here. Umpires are doing the job since the beginning and we should accept their word, whether right or not. They make mistakes and they are tolerable. By the way Siddharth Monga seems to be the officer in charge for Mankading incident.

  • Punter-Fan on February 25, 2012, 12:19 GMT

    stop excuses both indian team & fans.....be good enough to win with performance......

  • spinkingKK on February 25, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    @ johnathonjosephs. Trevor Chappel did something the law did not mention anything about. There was nothing in the cricket rule book to say that under arm bowling was not allowed. So he used it when New Zealan number11 needed to hit a six to win a match!. That was definitely unsportive. The rule book wouldn't say that you can't do that. However, Mankading is something the rule book is very specific about and changes have been made recently to make it a proper dismissal and prevent the batsmen from taking undue advantage.

  • WhiteRaven on February 25, 2012, 12:14 GMT

    @Chamila Wijesinghe its way better than Suraj radiv's Noball.

  • on February 25, 2012, 12:09 GMT

    One of the most irrelevant and meaningless things in this world. Media questions to cricket captains. I always turn my TV off when I see this.

  • ajayrcs on February 25, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    when ICC calls it fair its fair. Well Rule is Rule!

  • on February 25, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    game should be followed by the rules you break the rules you pay for it, umpire should not have asked sheweg for mercy, umpires please play by the rules do not put a captain in a position to look bad, good decision shewheg good guys action speak for it self.

  • on February 25, 2012, 11:59 GMT

    and now everybody start blaming indian ,dhoni and bcci what is your problem people why are you jealous of us ,we have just won 1 world t20 in 3 ,2 world cups in 10 and just had world no 1 in test for 18 months of what some 20 years nothing to jelous, or that without cricket will be like food would be without salt and agree with @ red000 . dhoni is right that if there is rule keep it to the umpire why is feilding captain asked about it then always he would have that task of keeping spirit of cricket in mind but doesnt matter now we will have another nonsense award of spirit of cricket

  • on February 25, 2012, 11:49 GMT

    Thank sachin and Sehwag... imagine a lost match with mankading... India just survived that shame. so be happy

  • SRThero on February 25, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    That's perfect comment i think so...

  • HawK89 on February 25, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    Every captain should give every decision that goes his way, OUT. So then the ICC will have to look into it and change something. Everyone always say, leave it up to the umpires.

  • golubhai on February 25, 2012, 11:27 GMT

    @chapathishot rightly said dude!!!! Evry time there is some controversy or problem, all start blaming BCCI for that. If rules were changed or made bcoz of BCCI money power then India wouldn'n had lost 2003 & 2007 world cup....

  • igorolman on February 25, 2012, 11:25 GMT

    There's advancing and advancing. What this law was brought in to stop is the situation in the last over of an ODI innings when the non-striker hares off as soon as the bowler enters his delivery stride, so that by the time the batsman hits it to long-off he's halfway down the track and turns an impossible 2 into an easy 2. Before 2000, it was merely convention to warn a batsman who strayed - I saw this once in a friendly, and fortunately our bowler didn't take it any further, as I'd say it's bad form in a friendly - and then if he persisted to run him out. I've seen several people making the point that a bowler gets no leeway from an umpire for crossing the popping crease, and I think that's valid.

  • EvoRyder21 on February 25, 2012, 11:12 GMT

    Dont worry people, ICC will now change the rules since Dhoni has spoken! Maybe Dhoni should also say "India ought to qualify despite their clown show just because we attract more crowds" and there's a good chance ICC may wipe clean the points table and oblige. I think Dhoni should stop being distracted by other things or turning the spot light on other issues and concentrate on delivering a decent performance tomorrow. First they have issues with DRS now with Mankading, soon they will put forward requests to ban grassy pitches so that they can prove their worth on dead dust tracks and maybe put a few wins under their belt.

  • bobmartin on February 25, 2012, 10:55 GMT

    Taking this incident in isolation... let's just look at the facts. The Rule, (which is only a slight amendment to Law 42.3.15 which has been in existence for years) says that the bowler, up to certain position in his run up/delivery stride can run out the non-striker if he is out of his ground. Now whether or not you, the players or the umpires agree with that rule is immaterial, that is the Rule, period. It is up to the players whether or not they appeal. If they chose not to, then that is their prerogative. However, once an appeal has been made, it is up to the umpires. In the strict letter of the Rule/ Law, IMHO the umpires were wrong in the way they handled it. The non-striker should have been given out. Whether or not they did the right thing in the spirit of the game is open to question. As I said in an earlier post, surely playing in the spirit of the game means abiding by the Rules/Laws.

  • StoneRose on February 25, 2012, 10:54 GMT

    ...however the warning needs to be clear to all (including spectators, otherwise it would create bad feeling that Sehwag apparently wanted to avoid) which, after reading the Sehwag interview article on this, appears not to have been the case i.e. there was not a clear warning.

  • StoneRose on February 25, 2012, 10:51 GMT

    If the batsman was warned he should have been out if he was caught out of his crease again. The bowler must be able Mankad otherwise the batsman could be halfway down the wicket before the ball is bowled. That's why the ICC restored this rule.

  • andrew27994 on February 25, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    I totally support the Mankad rule to avoid the batsman having an advantage by leaving the crease before the bowler has bowled. Mahela's comment about the Mankad rule was the most senseless comment I would have ever imagined made by him. The Sri Lankans(or should I say Thirimanne) wasn't playing fairly and wasn't keeping the game neat and clean. Clarke is not supporting the Mankad rule only because quick running is a big part of his game so he doesn't mind running the extra yards before the bowler has bowled. Dhoni's comment was the most sensible comment but that may just be because of the fact that India had the disadvantage.

  • Empty-Sequence on February 25, 2012, 10:41 GMT

    LillianThomson always talk non-sense. Really loves to read her illogical and hatred filled comments!!! Keep on posting, Big Fan.gg

  • red000 on February 25, 2012, 10:38 GMT

    @ ALL_CRITICS_OF_INDIA I really dont understand why for everything ...others start bulling india....Like they r power of cricket...so everything goes their way.....this kind of nonsense going on for a longtime when theirs no merit in it....okay india r not happy with drs..and they want it to be..way it is..leave to umpires..and they have succeded in it... Cricket Control for years: cricket is always controlled by countries like england and australia......how one can explain the ugliest and arragont behaviour of aussies cricketers ..like over appealing,bulling opposition players and having ugliest confrontations in the history of cricket get away with no match bans or atleast match fines... because cricket is always run by mostly ausssie power...malcom speed is a prime example...in his tenure in icc ...i hav never seen aussies face anything...for their ugliest behaviour on field.....on otherhand india always soft cricketers.face the maximum bans..for smallest of things....grow up pple

  • on February 25, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    the batsmen covers 3-4 yards of 20 yards even before the bowler has released the ball... thats fair?..only when few mankading dismissals occur, that batsmen will stop taking this unfair advantage... if mankading is unfair, that means going out of the crease is fair...then the non striker can stand half way down the pitch, and say it is fair..

  • on February 25, 2012, 10:26 GMT

    mankading is unfair?..so is lbw..the batsmen is not intentionally keeping his leg in front of the stumps..stumping is also unfair..he is not trying to run a single..the batsmen tried to hit the ball going outside the crease..thats unfair..atleast the batsmen should be given 5 seconds to get back in the crease..catches from the gloves of batsmen when he is trying to evade a bouncer is also unfair... run out at non striker's end due to straight drive..thats is very vey unfair..

  • Deccancharggers1 on February 25, 2012, 10:22 GMT

    Iam stunned at the comments of Srilankans,regarding the spirit of cricket.World cup final Toss??Suraj Randiv tactics???unnecessary appealing??Finally your players love India only during IPL.....Dhoni is superb:)

  • on February 25, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    100% correct, the same thing which I mentioned on the day of incident. ICC should do away with rules that interfere with spirit of the game

  • on February 25, 2012, 10:11 GMT

    yes mr dhone is correct, so i am just wondering that if whole world is accepting DRS,then why not indians??? so please apply this rule first on yourself before saying anything

  • GlobalCricketLover on February 25, 2012, 10:11 GMT

    MCC could look at a less contraversial penalty, say deducting 5 or 10 runs from batting side. But i am still ok with the current rule itself. If a batsman plays forward against a spinner and slips and get stumped, don't we accept it as 'OUT'? When even a genuine slip up can be accepted for a wicket, mankading too can be accepted. After all the law is clear that they can't back up. If we readers are aware how can the players not be? Btw, Thirimanne would still be not out as ashiwn had started his bowling stride and then only took the bails off. He should hae done that before his right leg landed for the final stride.

  • Springbok111 on February 25, 2012, 10:09 GMT

    I absolutely agree with Dhoni! The rule exists and should therefore be enforced by the umpires. Umpires don't ask captains for their opinion on anything else so why should this be different? In fact I feel the onus should be on the umpires to issue the warning when they see a batsman backing up too far, and then to advise the fielding captain that the warning has been issued and you are now EXPECTED to appeal.

  • ultrasnow on February 25, 2012, 10:02 GMT

    Guys, it's important not to get swayed by your loyalties. I'm Indian, but surely if you ask objective observers, the majority would agree that Lahiru was in the wrong especially AFTER the recent rule change. And remember no-balling the same Sehwag to leave him stranded on 99? Surely that was a cruel joke on a guy who's so out-of-form right now, lol. PEACE GUYS.

  • bobmartin on February 25, 2012, 9:58 GMT

    Cricket is supposed to be a gentlemens' game. Iin my understanding of the term, it means quite simply, playing by the Laws and/or Rules. If you transgress, then you should expect to be punished. In all other cases where the Rules or Laws are broken, there is no second chance given, why should this offence be any different. Whether or not you agree with it, this particular Rule was introduced for the express purpose of preventing the non-striker from indulging in unfair play. As my old sportsmaster once told me "Play by the rules or don't bother playing"

  • unregisteredalien on February 25, 2012, 9:50 GMT

    Dhoni is 100% correct up until the point where he says Sehwag was right to withdraw the appeal. Guess he doesn't want to deepen the "rift". For those commenters trying to make this about one country vs the other, it isn't. It's about having fair, sensible, rational, internally consistent rules of the game. The ICC (of all people!) seem to have understood this when reforming the law in question.

  • on February 25, 2012, 9:47 GMT

    And Lilianthompson : Learn to be unbiased if you want your comments to be considered as something more than utter nonsense.

  • on February 25, 2012, 9:44 GMT

    Next thing if a batsman is caught LBW, he should not be given out the first time, coz the bowler dint warn him that he is gonna bowl on the stumps. If he is caught the first time, then he should be given the benefit of doubt, coz the fielder dint warn him that he would catch it. We should proceed in a similar way coz SPIRIT OF THE GAME - read as relation of business between different cricket boards - is most important. Gone are the days of competitivenes in cricket, even during the times of 'Gentleman cricket' rules were given first priority. Common sense is not so common after all, I would suggest scrap the rule book and let the game be run under the SPIRIT OF THE GAME.

  • kaushal_raut on February 25, 2012, 9:41 GMT

    @LillianThomson,"Bucknor the highly respected umpire " ROFL. A blind person will make better umpiring than him.

  • sharidas on February 25, 2012, 9:33 GMT

    First of all to name it "Mankading" itself is wrong, as it gives the impression that Vinoo Mankad was unsporting...which he never was ! Now, since there is no law stating that it is legal to run out a batsmen in this particular way, is it better to ignore a batsmen taking an unfair advantage ? Lets say that it is the last ball of the match and one run is required for a win....if the bowler bowls a no ball - ie; a slight overstepping of the crease - immediately the match is over.....so if a batsmen takes advantage of a stride or two, would that be fair ? Of course, I am not supporting running a batsmen out this way, but, I do agree with Dhoni.Either make it a rule of the game ...legal ( better rule)or illegal ( a horrible rule), and get it over with.

  • om.pani on February 25, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    Dhoni is allways right.we shouldnt argue about his comments.i think before making any rule icc should get permission from dhoni.

  • chapathishot on February 25, 2012, 9:05 GMT

    @LillianThomson: If makading is non sense then what is switch hit ,it was made legal by MCC as KP was playing it .Is it fair to change your stance when the bowler is into his delivery stride and the bowler has to take prior permission to change the side or hand.So fairness is a relative term and can be adjusted according to who has the power and ability.Can you tell why number of leg side fielders were reduced by ICC(MCC) in 1970s ,because Poms and Aussies were finding it difficult to play Indian spin quadret.So when they were ruling that was fair now when BCCI has power they ignore DRS that is unfair.LOL And all the Srilankans commenting on the forum should think about the no ball bowled by Randiv to deny Shewag a century was it fair

  • on February 25, 2012, 8:56 GMT

    jayawardene doesnt have right to talk about this, did he forget that his team mate suraj randiv deliberately bowled no ball when india needed 1 run and sehwag was 1 short of century there by denying century to sehwag, was nt that against spirit of game

  • on February 25, 2012, 8:54 GMT

    If taking a few strides is ok - as many here seem to think, how about getting rid of the no ball law - even if a bowler is fractionally over, he is penalised - so why not a batsman? Or change the law - if the batsman takes a start - no runs are allowed to be counted but one penalty run is deducted - but that will make it too complex. Spirit of cricket is like when Flintoff and Lee happened, when Vishy recalled Taylor, when the entire Eng team applauded Dravid in his last one dayer. Not getting a batsman out when he is cheating by getting start is called pusillanimity.

  • on February 25, 2012, 8:51 GMT

    WELL SAID DHONI(UMPIRE KNOW THE RULES OR NOT!!!) ?

  • on February 25, 2012, 8:38 GMT

    Stop Complaining And Concentrate on Cricket then India Will win :P Each and every Match after loosing they have something to complain

  • kdushmantha on February 25, 2012, 8:37 GMT

    Dhoni's and Indian fan's comments proved why Indian team and Indians are not respected by whole world......

  • on February 25, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    what's wrong with the umpire's that's what i'm going to say.. umpire's don't know the rule's??? the rule is simple if the batsmen leave's his crease before the ball bowled (& bowler hit the stump's) he should be given out.. straight away. have they ever asked keeper ? like a stumped out by keeper and they ask captain well what u think should we give him a chance .. he don't know the rule's mate.. i don't say anything about sehwag maybe he show some kind heart.. but what about the umpire's? ICC should think about it.

  • ramli on February 25, 2012, 8:22 GMT

    Well said Dhoni ... It is out .. that is all ... what is there to talk about? Clarke trying to keep up high standards ... funny ... he was the person who claimed a grounded catch ... outright cheating ... Mahela is obviously unaware of the rules and accepted that the fault lays with the batsman also ... Let the batsman understand it and not repeat it in future ... by the way India .. you need to win the rest of the matches to stay alive ... do remember it .. thank you

  • Herath-UK on February 25, 2012, 8:19 GMT

    Come on Dhoni,anything to divert the attention from the indian team plight is a godsend.For some writers there is something to crow about now than looking at Indian downfall; a team playing on these wickets over two months prior to Sri Lanka's arrival,I'm sure will be knocked out of the CB series on Sunday.Focus your full energy and time on it and if you make it to the final with Sri Lanka then we can address it. Ranil Herath - Kent

  • on February 25, 2012, 8:09 GMT

    On principle one has to agree with Dhoni because it is difficult to accept, an international cricketer should be taught to stay in the crease, until the ball leaves the bowlers arm.This issue has been resolved now and if another batsman ,may be Thirimanne or someone else try to do it again , undoubtedly he should be shown the pavilion.However Lahiru was 40 at the time of this incident and even if he was given out, the result would have been the same as we had enough batsman to support Mathews at that stage.Therefore no point harping on this any further and hats off to Sehwag , Tendulkar and the Indian team in showing the real spirit of the game.

  • golubhai on February 25, 2012, 8:00 GMT

    @johnathonjosephs from where did BCCI came into this......It is a rule made by ICC. and what's very cheap in it?? It is a part of game and it clearly mentioned in ICC rule book and it is according to me is correct rule.. Otherwise till the bowler takes his run up you can easily take one run bcoz u cant be given out.... Players like thirimanne don't know the right rules and thn blame the bowlers.....

  • alltimegreat on February 25, 2012, 8:00 GMT

    If media stops asking irrelevant questions then Dhoni need not give answers of what happened in the past!!

  • mathewjohn2176 on February 25, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    Why people immediately jump on Indian captain dhoni? He replied for the journalist questions.What he says is correct.If there is a rule,them don't ask the captains.If its not applicable,then simple don't make this kind of stupid rules.@ lillianThomson, its an usual liking of you to bash Indian team in all of your post.so nothing new here.What he says is simple.dont put pressure on captains when rules are there to follow,if it's not right,then don't make these rules. And world cup is not so important for you,then i dont understand why teams prepare for it now onwards for 2015? And if it's less in technique,then how England didn't win a single world cup?@jonathonjosephs,The rules made by MCC and if mahela is not bothered about it,what's the need to tell billy Bowden regarding David hussey backing up far?Let him take the unfair advantage like thirumanne and keep the game clean and nice.

  • satish619chandar on February 25, 2012, 7:39 GMT

    Rahulcricket007: Ll u accept position of Indian teams media handler and answer all the questions? Media got answers from Viru n Mahela on the issue n what s the point in asking Dhoni the same question again? And, Dhpbi just said what any sensible guy ll say on this 'Rule or scrap the rule'.. Where did u see controversy here?

  • on February 25, 2012, 7:37 GMT

    So he found something else to talk when his team loss too badly in overseas and there are talks about Indian team unity. Maybe he will need to find so many "this kind of issues" in future too !

  • on February 25, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    Reasons behind India's defeats......They talk too much behind the curtain

  • screamingeagle on February 25, 2012, 7:30 GMT

    @LillianThompson, it will not end. Coz what he said is right about mankading. Btw, if Harper behaves likes a sulking schoolboy when pointed out his errors, thats hardly Dhonis problem. So chill and talk sense.

  • SanjivAwesome on February 25, 2012, 7:27 GMT

    He is right. Simple as that.

  • johnathonjosephs on February 25, 2012, 7:27 GMT

    My question to all you Indian fans taking King Dhoni's side. It is legal when a batsman drives a ball straight forward and the ball glances the bowler's fingers/shoes and runs out the non striking batsman. But is it really using the skills and spirit of cricket or is it just good luck? Mankading is worse than that. Without warning a batsman, you take the bails out. Mankading is fine if the batsman is halfway down the pitch, but seriously one or two strides? Reminds me of the Ian Bell run out. According to the rules, Ian Bell should have been run out... Oh wait, a similar team did that to him too

  • on February 25, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    runout appeal for on the line must belong to fielding captain. ROFL. as per metrics, on the line is lot more lesser than mankading. Imagine a scenario where the batsman didn't make his ground and was on the line, because he didn't backup then that should be referred to fielding captain. Whims and fancies cannot be in rule books.

  • CNBAS5 on February 25, 2012, 7:23 GMT

    Will Jayawardene not appeal for an LBW, Stumped, Caught etc,,, and give the batsman one warning even if he is bowled. This nonsense argument about mankading should shut both the Srilankan and Aus captains up. Rule is a rule and you abide by it when you play the game. This day and age a sharp look or a small utter at the umpire fir an obviously wrong call will cost you matches and $$$. Le's be serious Jayawardene, do not show up your hypocrisy.

  • Rupesh2804 on February 25, 2012, 7:21 GMT

    Dhoni.... Now you and Sehwag stop talking too much... and start performing on pitch and not in studio.... You, Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir and others earn too much of money... now earn some respect for your country...Once in blue moon A World Cup is not enough for you all to keep minting more than 200 CR per year..! Not start permorming on cricketing pitch...!

  • Dilruksh on February 25, 2012, 7:20 GMT

    hahahah...mahendra singh dhoni who has had a bad sieries so far is finding excuses to save himself...a defeat is a defeat....no point of talking now accept it...if u want some u will get it next tuesday....

  • Balumekka on February 25, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    Cant stop the laugh!!!!!! Here comes Dhoni's biggest worry! When your bowlers are useless Mankading is also a good option!!!!!

  • on February 25, 2012, 7:06 GMT

    I agree with this opinion 100%

  • on February 25, 2012, 7:05 GMT

    You're spot on MS. "A proper warning always is, you get him out and then it's a proper warning," The best way to get the message across! ICC is messing with the rules too much. Even five years ago, explaining the great game to an European was a challenge. Right now it's right up there with climbing Mt. Everest - Sri Lankan fan

  • on February 25, 2012, 7:04 GMT

    I have no problem with bowlers running the batsman out this way if he's clearly trying to gain an unfair advantage. A warning is fair as sometimes its accidental but the non-striking batsman is not allowed to leave his crease until the ball is bowled so I have limited sympathy for batsmen who get run out while trying to cheat.

  • on February 25, 2012, 6:54 GMT

    I think Dhoni is 100% right. A rule is a rule. And if anyone is breaching the spirit of the game, its the batsman who is exploiting the situation by wandering out of his crease when he is not allowed to do so as per laws of the game.

  • on February 25, 2012, 6:47 GMT

    Hello! Mr.Dhoni, Why are you so worried about People Criticism. People are there to criticise even when you dont bat well, are even when you loose. If umpire asks you don't with draw your appeal, if it is there in the rules book, you gave a warning once, even then batsman doing same thing you have every right in the rule book to make batsman out. If you or other captain think that is not fair thing to make some one out, then why your team members start taking that advantage if some thing is available. Run few steps ealy in every match and lets see what other teams will do, will they give warning or will they make you out. You can follow the same with out much worrie.

  • veerakannadiga on February 25, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    Quote - Ian Chappell "who ever is against mankading, is speaking thru his hat" unquote. I wholly agree with Ian. If it is in the ICC rule book that mankading is out, than it should be that.Tomorrow someone else might have a problem with LBW, or runouts etc, will we need the umpire to intervene ? We play the game according to the rules and as per rules mankading is as fair a decision as a bowled, or catch. The non striker has no business to leave his crease till the ball is bowled. Why this fuss surrounding mankading? Mankading is far better than under arm bowling. eh ! Greg.

  • Deepfreezed on February 25, 2012, 6:37 GMT

    get over it already. don't they have better things to worry about than this?

  • Sakthiivel on February 25, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    Dhoni is always the better diplomat. He think better than all captains. But some time his execution is not that good.

  • Rahul_78 on February 25, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    If stumping of a batsmen is legitimate, under the law and not unsportsmen like then so is Mankading. All this nonsense should stop immediately. Next time if some batsmen is naive enough to do it just Mankad him and show him the way to the dressing room.

  • rnarayan on February 25, 2012, 6:27 GMT

    I coupdnt agree more. How is it against the spirit of cricket to run a batsman out when he's trying to sneak a run? Why should he be warned first? If he is unaware of the rules, tough. In this instance, the umpires were at fault, if anything, because the laws say nothing about asking the fielding captain whether he intended to appeal.

  • donda on February 25, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    This is a great rule , i remember that bowlers used to give one warning and next time batsman is out. I don't know about current rule but it is unfair that a batsman leave the crease even before the ball is bowled.

    Jawardane is totally wrong and clarke is wrong too. Both are batsmen that's why they are promoting not to do this.

    Sehwag saved the day but if it was according to law then why umpire asked Sehwag, make no sense.

  • LillianThomson on February 25, 2012, 6:19 GMT

    I wonder how much further Dhoni can run India's reputation overseas into the gutter? The team won a World Cup at home last year, and so should be recognised as pre-eminent in the dullest and least technically demanding format of cricket. But how dare Dhoni presume to comment about umpires after his intimidatory and unsporting behaviour towards umpire Daryl Harper? The ICC formally measured Harper's decisions involving India as 96% correct yet he was hounded out of cricket by the abuse of Dhoni and his cronies. (The same people who want DRS banned because it is "only" 98% accurate!) First India bullies a second highly respected umpire after Bucknor three years earlier - then they refuse to accept the DRS, and now they want to push onto umpires the onus for dealing with unsporting nonsense like Mankads. Where is this going to end?

  • chilled_avenger on February 25, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    I don't agree with Dhoni's views much but he is quite right on this issue......I agree wholeheartedly!

  • rhtdm302 on February 25, 2012, 6:13 GMT

    C'mon Dhoni basher's lets get going!

  • on February 25, 2012, 6:10 GMT

    I thought the reverend saint Mr. MS Dhoni just recently said umpires are humans and are allowed to make mistakes? Or does that statement cease to hold true in times like Sydney 2008 or in this series?

  • on February 25, 2012, 6:05 GMT

    A good quote by Dhoni.....Players shud abide to the rules to keep the game "neat and clean".Mahela can't keep it neat and clean by not following them.

  • truthhh on February 25, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    india plase improve yur blowing attack ranther than getting wickets from these kind of things!in my life i have never seen those thing,by gettin wickt from stumps before the ball blowed,rules may change.it;s ok..in that match we dropped two catches of Virat Kohli,so what talks abt that,you guys could have won that match&the other thing is Lahiru Thirimanne scord only 15 runs after that..please india improve yur blowing attack,otherwise you guys wiil not win matches out side from india!!advise from srilankan fan!!do not put any excuses for the lost,accept yur weaknesses then u guys can go to better future!!..i like t see final match SL vs INDIA,good luck for next match!!

  • johnathonjosephs on February 25, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    How did the rule even come there? BCCI power? Mankading is very unprofessional and very cheap. If you really want to stop a person from taking a head start, don't get them out, just mention it to the umpires. The umpires will tell the batsman as a warning and that's that. Thats what Mahela said he would do and that is what HE DID DO in the game against Australia when David Hussey was getting a few extra strides in. You give the batsman a warning not to do so, but that is not enough to warrant his wicket. To be honest, even though the rule is there, it is very cheap and dishonorable to do. And just because the rules are there doesn't mean its ok. Anybody recall Trevor Chappell bowling underarm the final delivery against a tight New Zealand game? That was in the books too, but is the most dishonorable act in cricket. India is just saying this because they have no other ways to get someone out. Ask all captains in the world, not one will agree with Mankading

  • on February 25, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    "Notes on Leadership" must contain this article

  • rahulcricket007 on February 25, 2012, 6:01 GMT

    dhoni is a man who always look to spark a controversy . first he statrted controversy in eng tour , then the test series against aus were fullof controversies , then sehwag controversy now he goes against umpires .

  • kumarcoolbuddy on February 25, 2012, 5:57 GMT

    I donno why Dhoni is coming up with this issue again but funny thing in this is Mahela saying he wants game to be "nice and clean". I laughed loudly after seeing this. And Clarke, nothing to mention. Rules are always according to their convenience.

  • on February 25, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    i think he should have been give out.. Now we have 1 tie match against SL due to bad umpiring and 2nd match we lost to them again due to bad umpiring.. One more thing if sachin and sehwag is now performing with their bat why they are giving unfair chances to opponent batsman to score some runs... shame on umpires...

  • VK_MSD_IND_Champs on February 25, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Oh Dear..Oh Dear...And NOW..Here it is... These Are The Excuses That Dhoni (And The Whole INDIANS) has to be made for LOOSING in AUSTRALIA (The Whole Tour). I WONDER WHY HE(DHONI) TOOK THIS LATE TO MAKE EXCUSES IN LOOSING MATCHES.. hmmmm... BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME MR.DHONI..(AND PLEASE COME UP WITH MUCH BETTER EXCUSES THAN THIS AS WELL) :)

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  • VK_MSD_IND_Champs on February 25, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Oh Dear..Oh Dear...And NOW..Here it is... These Are The Excuses That Dhoni (And The Whole INDIANS) has to be made for LOOSING in AUSTRALIA (The Whole Tour). I WONDER WHY HE(DHONI) TOOK THIS LATE TO MAKE EXCUSES IN LOOSING MATCHES.. hmmmm... BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME MR.DHONI..(AND PLEASE COME UP WITH MUCH BETTER EXCUSES THAN THIS AS WELL) :)

  • on February 25, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    i think he should have been give out.. Now we have 1 tie match against SL due to bad umpiring and 2nd match we lost to them again due to bad umpiring.. One more thing if sachin and sehwag is now performing with their bat why they are giving unfair chances to opponent batsman to score some runs... shame on umpires...

  • kumarcoolbuddy on February 25, 2012, 5:57 GMT

    I donno why Dhoni is coming up with this issue again but funny thing in this is Mahela saying he wants game to be "nice and clean". I laughed loudly after seeing this. And Clarke, nothing to mention. Rules are always according to their convenience.

  • rahulcricket007 on February 25, 2012, 6:01 GMT

    dhoni is a man who always look to spark a controversy . first he statrted controversy in eng tour , then the test series against aus were fullof controversies , then sehwag controversy now he goes against umpires .

  • on February 25, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    "Notes on Leadership" must contain this article

  • johnathonjosephs on February 25, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    How did the rule even come there? BCCI power? Mankading is very unprofessional and very cheap. If you really want to stop a person from taking a head start, don't get them out, just mention it to the umpires. The umpires will tell the batsman as a warning and that's that. Thats what Mahela said he would do and that is what HE DID DO in the game against Australia when David Hussey was getting a few extra strides in. You give the batsman a warning not to do so, but that is not enough to warrant his wicket. To be honest, even though the rule is there, it is very cheap and dishonorable to do. And just because the rules are there doesn't mean its ok. Anybody recall Trevor Chappell bowling underarm the final delivery against a tight New Zealand game? That was in the books too, but is the most dishonorable act in cricket. India is just saying this because they have no other ways to get someone out. Ask all captains in the world, not one will agree with Mankading

  • truthhh on February 25, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    india plase improve yur blowing attack ranther than getting wickets from these kind of things!in my life i have never seen those thing,by gettin wickt from stumps before the ball blowed,rules may change.it;s ok..in that match we dropped two catches of Virat Kohli,so what talks abt that,you guys could have won that match&the other thing is Lahiru Thirimanne scord only 15 runs after that..please india improve yur blowing attack,otherwise you guys wiil not win matches out side from india!!advise from srilankan fan!!do not put any excuses for the lost,accept yur weaknesses then u guys can go to better future!!..i like t see final match SL vs INDIA,good luck for next match!!

  • on February 25, 2012, 6:05 GMT

    A good quote by Dhoni.....Players shud abide to the rules to keep the game "neat and clean".Mahela can't keep it neat and clean by not following them.

  • on February 25, 2012, 6:10 GMT

    I thought the reverend saint Mr. MS Dhoni just recently said umpires are humans and are allowed to make mistakes? Or does that statement cease to hold true in times like Sydney 2008 or in this series?

  • rhtdm302 on February 25, 2012, 6:13 GMT

    C'mon Dhoni basher's lets get going!