England v India, 2nd ODI, Rose Bowl September 6, 2011

England on full beam while India fade

England are continually willing to push themselves to their limit, as they showed with a huge chase that felt routine
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A day that contained some of the most dank and miserable weather of the summer gave way to a glorious sunset that dipped over the Rose Bowl pavilion just as an improbable 23-over-a-side contest got underway out in the middle. By the time the floodlights had kicked into full life, England were also on full beam, and kicking on to another remarkable victory - their sixth out of six in completed fixtures against an Indian team that is somehow locating a new nadir with each new dawn.

England's latest victory was remarkable in the sense that it ought to have been unexpected - given the size of India's total and the cobbled-together nature of England's batting line-up - but it ended up feeling entirely routine. Alastair Cook's adaptation to one-day cricket has, in its own way, seemed more improbable than his feats of endurance in the Test format, and as he glided to a 63-ball 80 not out (to take his summer's ODI tally to 382 runs at 76.40 from 381 balls) India's resolve broke as dramatically as the clouds that had delayed the day's start until 7pm.

Cook, by his own admission, came close to standing down for this contest. Instead it was the insular Jonathan Trott who stepped out of the starting XI to make way for the pugnacious Samit Patel - a recognition of the fact that, in a 23-over sprint, there was no place for a pacemaker. With Kevin Pietersen taking a break and Eoin Morgan laid low with a shoulder problem, England's batting line-up seemed to have a worrying lack of oomph, and yet you would not believe it from the speed with which they hurtled after India's testing total of 187 for 8.

India seemed to have done everything right with the bat. Parthiv Patel was brisk and abrupt in a 16-ball 28, Ajinkya Rahane unfurled a crisp technique for the third match in a row to anchor their performance with 54 from 47 balls, while Suresh Raina's transmogrification from the Test series continued with another howitzer of an innings - 40 from 19 balls, including three fours and three sixes. At the precise moment he flogged his third maximum over point off Tim Bresnan, he took his ODI runs tally to 74 from 43 balls. In the Oval Test last month, he floundered to a 42-ball pair.

None of that was enough to halt England, however. In part, they owed their momentum to a superb retort from Craig Kieswetter, a batsman whose ability to clear the ropes in the Powerplay overs propelled him straight into the World Twenty20 line-up in the Caribbean last May, but whose stiff-armed response to tidy swing bowling has tended to lay him low in English conditions. Here he produced a throwback performance, not least when he opened his shoulders in Vinay Kumar's opening over, to batter a length ball over midwicket for six.

However, that India failed to trouble Kieswetter, or Cook for that matter, was an indictment of their inadequacies as a bowling unit. England's attack also struggled on a pitch that Cook later admitted was much better for batting than eight hours of sweating under the covers would have suggested. However they did at least have James Anderson's waspishness with the new ball to fall back on, as well as Graeme Swann's purchase in the middle overs, as he applied a handbrake to the run-rate with three wickets for 33 in five excellent overs.

India had no-one who could match such diligence. Praveen Kumar had an off-day, as his first two overs were filleted for 23, but the lack of back-up went way beyond the absence of an outright fifth bowler that MS Dhoni bemoaned at the close. R Ashwin's opening over was defensive leg-side dross that demanded - and received - an attacking response from Kieswetter, and it wasn't until Bell drove loosely to short cover in the 11th over that England's run-rate dipped below ten an over.

England had their alarms with the bat - mostly when an anxious Ravi Bopara came to the crease, desperate to prove himself but merely muddying his own case with each new muffed decision. He twice came close to running himself out early in his stay, and while a 20-ball 24 served his team's purpose in the end, he exuded a lack of confidence reminiscent of Owais Shah in the dying days of his own ODI career.

There's still time for Bopara to get it right, and there's no better place to learn than in a winning outfit, but his stuttering performance was proof that India could have turned the screw, if they'd had anything resembling an attack with which to do so. Their glut of injuries is an excuse that washes only so far, given that England are also feeling the wear and tear of a long season. But as Bell demonstrated in a superlative evening's work on the long boundary, where he pocketed three catches - one of them outstanding - and saved a certain four with a full-length dive on the edge of the rope, there's one team that's willing to push itself to the limit.

Andrew Miller is UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • Naresh28 on September 8, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    INDIAN FANS should not be disppointed too much of the future. In emerging tournaments played in Australia recently. India finished tops in both tournaments. Some stats from those tournaments showed we had the second most no of centurions ,Most wickets from our bowlers(50), most sixes. In that tournament - Rahane, Tiwari, Pandey,Menaria shone in the batting. Varun, Vinay, Iqbal, Unadkat shone in the bowling. The tournament had SA, Australia, NZ, India playing. We appeared to be 2nd to SA in the bowling department and had more team members contributing in the batting than the other teams. Again two SA batsman were tops

  • on September 8, 2011, 7:08 GMT

    Its high time for Dhoni to stop giving lame excuses and instead get things in order by employing tough training in each department especially in bowling and batting. Now the English series shows to the world we are totally lacking in professionalism and we are bunch of village cricketers.Hope so called the power house BCCI will take notice and start do things in right way.

  • RandyOZ on September 8, 2011, 3:02 GMT

    We've only had 7 non-Australian born players in our test cricket history. You have that in your current squad. I am not against it, but if it was me i'd be mighty embarassed. When English becomes the second language in the dressing room surely you have a problem!

  • RandyOZ on September 7, 2011, 23:18 GMT

    @landl47, not biased? HAHA your having a laugh mate. I cannot take you seriously if you actually believe that. If you think I am the biased one I suggest you look up the definition of bias, you'll see one of Miller's articles as an example!

  • 5wombats on September 7, 2011, 22:43 GMT

    @landl47... I think you got him! @CricIndia208; Trolling Rubbish. Anyway what you have put is wrong - surely you should have said; "INDIA are home track bullies who can win only on doctored pitches. INDIA should try winning a few games overseas before opening its mouth". Yep - that looks about right to me. Don't worry England devotees - we won't have to read this Trash for much longer.

  • zico123 on September 7, 2011, 21:15 GMT

    ofcourse Praveen, Munaf, Vinay trio is one-dimensional attack, it took us 3 games to understand that !! Dhoni keeps saying our bowlers are not genuine quicks, then why he don't play Aaron Varun?? he must play in the remaining 3 games, you never know he might be the bowler India was looking for

  • RohanMarkJay on September 7, 2011, 20:50 GMT

    Congratulations to England, becoming a good one day side too. As a England Cricket team fan its pleasing to see England team do well. I know it won't last, as the other cricket teams will be looking to knock off England. However England fans should enjoy it while it lasts because we all remember how cricket was for England team in the 1990s. More losses than wins.

  • Lmaotsetung on September 7, 2011, 20:27 GMT

    RandyOZ is just a bitter old man who finally realizes that his Australian team won't be winning the Ashes for a looooong time.

  • on September 7, 2011, 20:09 GMT

    what's ironic is that everything is about money--maybe not in England now but wait till the economy gets worse. Indians will play in the IPL and still get the moolah. India stops touring any other country and will still earn the bucks home. wait till the World cup in England. No Indian viewer-ship ends up like a shab show in the West Indies. Ask the Pakistanis.. they will ine up to play in the IPL once they are allowed.and who are the best one day players in England KP and morgan--both play in the IPL..

  • on September 7, 2011, 18:43 GMT

    Alright guys.Enough said.Even after this white wash.( i supoose it is going to be) you ask any one other then England or Indian fans they will not even give a second thought to say that India is a lot better side.This is just one of those bad days.

    England is a better side in tests ( on their soil) but i will accept you are the best if you win a test series on indian soil.

    Last but not the least , congratz to england for the series win.njoy guyz.

    Infront crocodile festival

  • Naresh28 on September 8, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    INDIAN FANS should not be disppointed too much of the future. In emerging tournaments played in Australia recently. India finished tops in both tournaments. Some stats from those tournaments showed we had the second most no of centurions ,Most wickets from our bowlers(50), most sixes. In that tournament - Rahane, Tiwari, Pandey,Menaria shone in the batting. Varun, Vinay, Iqbal, Unadkat shone in the bowling. The tournament had SA, Australia, NZ, India playing. We appeared to be 2nd to SA in the bowling department and had more team members contributing in the batting than the other teams. Again two SA batsman were tops

  • on September 8, 2011, 7:08 GMT

    Its high time for Dhoni to stop giving lame excuses and instead get things in order by employing tough training in each department especially in bowling and batting. Now the English series shows to the world we are totally lacking in professionalism and we are bunch of village cricketers.Hope so called the power house BCCI will take notice and start do things in right way.

  • RandyOZ on September 8, 2011, 3:02 GMT

    We've only had 7 non-Australian born players in our test cricket history. You have that in your current squad. I am not against it, but if it was me i'd be mighty embarassed. When English becomes the second language in the dressing room surely you have a problem!

  • RandyOZ on September 7, 2011, 23:18 GMT

    @landl47, not biased? HAHA your having a laugh mate. I cannot take you seriously if you actually believe that. If you think I am the biased one I suggest you look up the definition of bias, you'll see one of Miller's articles as an example!

  • 5wombats on September 7, 2011, 22:43 GMT

    @landl47... I think you got him! @CricIndia208; Trolling Rubbish. Anyway what you have put is wrong - surely you should have said; "INDIA are home track bullies who can win only on doctored pitches. INDIA should try winning a few games overseas before opening its mouth". Yep - that looks about right to me. Don't worry England devotees - we won't have to read this Trash for much longer.

  • zico123 on September 7, 2011, 21:15 GMT

    ofcourse Praveen, Munaf, Vinay trio is one-dimensional attack, it took us 3 games to understand that !! Dhoni keeps saying our bowlers are not genuine quicks, then why he don't play Aaron Varun?? he must play in the remaining 3 games, you never know he might be the bowler India was looking for

  • RohanMarkJay on September 7, 2011, 20:50 GMT

    Congratulations to England, becoming a good one day side too. As a England Cricket team fan its pleasing to see England team do well. I know it won't last, as the other cricket teams will be looking to knock off England. However England fans should enjoy it while it lasts because we all remember how cricket was for England team in the 1990s. More losses than wins.

  • Lmaotsetung on September 7, 2011, 20:27 GMT

    RandyOZ is just a bitter old man who finally realizes that his Australian team won't be winning the Ashes for a looooong time.

  • on September 7, 2011, 20:09 GMT

    what's ironic is that everything is about money--maybe not in England now but wait till the economy gets worse. Indians will play in the IPL and still get the moolah. India stops touring any other country and will still earn the bucks home. wait till the World cup in England. No Indian viewer-ship ends up like a shab show in the West Indies. Ask the Pakistanis.. they will ine up to play in the IPL once they are allowed.and who are the best one day players in England KP and morgan--both play in the IPL..

  • on September 7, 2011, 18:43 GMT

    Alright guys.Enough said.Even after this white wash.( i supoose it is going to be) you ask any one other then England or Indian fans they will not even give a second thought to say that India is a lot better side.This is just one of those bad days.

    England is a better side in tests ( on their soil) but i will accept you are the best if you win a test series on indian soil.

    Last but not the least , congratz to england for the series win.njoy guyz.

    Infront crocodile festival

  • Dhivakaran on September 7, 2011, 18:26 GMT

    >>>given that England are also feeling the wear and tear of a long season

    No, they arent, not nearly as much as India, though the injuries were entirely of India's making rather than ill-luck.

  • PradeepR on September 7, 2011, 16:46 GMT

    The next few months should tell whether England is too good for India or the Indian team has reached its lowest point.

    I think it is time for a change in attitude towards fitness for the Indian players and for the BCCI to invest money in finding some good bowlers - genuine fast bowlers.

    It is a shame that India doesn't have a genuine quick bowler despite its vast population.

    It is a shame that BCCI is the richest governing body in cricket with probably the poorest attitude towards anything and everything.

  • ashu.lifeisbeautiful on September 7, 2011, 16:22 GMT

    This is a good contest. Not sure why Indian fans are complaining, I think Indian is playing very well, and we know that this is not India's first preference team. All 3 games have been close contests and well fought. Of-course England is playing well but India have not been outplayed like the test series. Dhoni's leadership is going to be thoroughly tested in the next 3 games. The Indian team has been rattled by injuries and everyone knows about it. To come out of the losing streak and fight back will surely require a lot of determination and guts. I am enjoying it and eagerly looking forward to the remaining 3 matches.

  • Shan156 on September 7, 2011, 15:30 GMT

    @CricIndia208, we won 3-1 in Australia just 9 months back. How about you? India, probably, have won a grand total of 3 tests in Australia in 60 years. First win a test series in Australia and SA and then you can talk about England's performance overseas.

  • Shan156 on September 7, 2011, 15:19 GMT

    @Dharvesh Khan, like how you found yours after the test series thrashing? I agree that India is fielding a second string XI but England isn't at full strength either - our two best ODI players (Morgan and KP) aren't playing either.

    Also, if India is really the best, they should have strength in depth.

  • ian_ghose on September 7, 2011, 15:15 GMT

    contd.@Sukumar Kantri - I don't know how you assume (imagine) India would have won if England had batted first. You know what they say about assumptions - It makes an ass (no pun intended) of you and me. Yes, ignore the fact how England have managed to beat India throughout the summer (from tough situations - Trent Bridge test for example, and sometimes very easily). Like the other Indian cheerleaders (SMG, RJS and HB), you can also write an article on how India have been victimized, marginalized and everything else, just to make yourself feel better. Or maybe you should ask if your players are really as good as the media hypes them up to be or if the English players are actually good. But please don't hold it against Andrew Miller :). I think thats enough pontification from me. Wish you a good day - Arrivederci IG

  • on September 7, 2011, 15:11 GMT

    I think the tour for India, hasn't been there best effort, and with certain key player dropouts, the likes of Tendulkar, Sehwag, Rohit Sharma, and Gambhir...India are fielding a weakened side, thus making them what seems to be a 'B' grade team. England on the other chance, are showcasing skills beyond their class, but irrespective of what team they are playing, they seem to be winning in style. For me the reason why the Indian team is not performing in any of formats is because quite literally I don't think they care or are overtired due to them playing and relying too much on the IPL. England players on the other hand have played a lot of cricket during the summer with their counties, adapting to each format relatively well but not overdoing it. They have depth in the their team which is unrivalled by any other country playing cricket at the moment, and they work hard to keep interest in the game, whereas India I feel like many others are in it for the money!!! Not good for the sport!

  • ian_ghose on September 7, 2011, 14:55 GMT

    @Sukumar_kantri - Actually the rule states that the umpire can use evidence of sound, visible deflection and super-slo-mo (please read the correct rules, i'm not making it up) in case the hot-spot evidence is not substantial. Based on those evidences, he probably felt that Dravid was out. I am neither supporting nor opposing that decision, but please realize that the pictures available to us on the network TV (in your case i assume ESPN-Star - hint hint) are not quite the same as what the 3rd umpire sees. Just a personal feeling, but it did seem that Dravid looked back as soon as the ball went to the keeper (some former players believe that players usually do that when they nick it) or maybe he does it all the time - I don't know. Either ways, if you like to see articles praising the Indian team (even if they were handsomely beaten over and over), why don't you write them yourself? You can write how fantastic your team was, keep it on your desktop and read it everyday. Cheers :)

  • Shan156 on September 7, 2011, 14:46 GMT

    Happy that England won but I still feel that, in the absence of Morgan and KP, India are still a better ODI side than England. A full strength India side is definitely ahead of a full strength England side. Even this young team has so much talent at its disposal. If and when we get 50 overs a side, I feel that India will win since England's batting doesn't look so strong.

  • Shan156 on September 7, 2011, 14:43 GMT

    @RandyOZ,

    Still bitter about the 1-3 thrashing at home at the hands of the old enemy, eh?

    "England and its host of imports will soon slide down the rankings"

    Maybe but I could see that we will still be ahead of your team in the rankings that really matter (tests). You may keep the ODI crown for some more time - a full strength India will soon snatch it from you.

  • Sukumar_Kantri on September 7, 2011, 13:04 GMT

    @Ian_ghosh I have come accross many articles from Miller which are biased towards Eng irrespective of the match result. What you say about dismissals of Dravid in1st match when the DRS technology supposed to be used showed no evidence of ruling him out but still Erasmus ruled him out using Snicko which is not suppposed to be used for DRS? You might support Eng Team, but the reality is if India had won toss and bowled first, Eng would have lost to India "A" team. I didnt deny the weakness of Indian bowling. I hope u understand it. But still the performance put by Ind A side in ODIS here is really good and lot better than what Miller had written here. First you go back and see the artilcles by Miller when Eng faced whitewash against India in 2008. He accused of flat pitches then, now he is saying its all because of "good" performance by England.

  • on September 7, 2011, 12:38 GMT

    and so to another beating, and now more bleating. england can only beat whats in front of it. it was not englands choice to play ipl and turn up in england unfit and unready for the tour. it was not englands choice to field players totally unable to play the short ball and so get injured. it has not been englands choice to be unable to find 1, just 1, quick bowler to replace khan from a population of 1.2 billion. it doesnt matter if it was india's a,b,c,d or even their z team. from a population that big, and from all the crowing pre tour, surely india can find 11 fit cricketers capable of at least fighting england. but they cant. england should be very pleased with their players, systems, monitoring, meaning that every time they have taken the field this summer they have been fit and raring to go. if india cant stand the heat of scrutiny, i suggest they get out of the way and make way for a team that can.

  • on September 7, 2011, 12:31 GMT

    When will this Indian Cricket fans learn? They always have an excuse. Listen Guys, Injuries, 2nd String etc are all India's own fault. Eng can only beat the team that is put in front of them and they did it well. So acknowledge it, and try to understand the decline in Indian Cricket. This is how it will be when the great batsman/ bwlers who have carried the burden for so long go. Scary? I am afraid the conveyar belt that produces talented bowlers in India is quite dry at the moment. If u don't want to accept and change, so be it, see u fighting with Bangla/ Zimb soon and u will all gloat when they beat teams such as Banla and Zim

  • PaddyRasta on September 7, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    @Dharvesh Khan Yes you've lost players, so what. Now get on with the job of building your future team now. It's not gonna happen by making excuses. You are 1.2 billion so it shouldn't be hard to find new talent.

  • PaddyRasta on September 7, 2011, 12:20 GMT

    @Gupta.Ankur You're wrong there mate. The difference between England and India is that when England lose a player to injury, this is not an excuse to lose but a chance for another player to shine. Look at Bresnan in for Tremlett and Sami Patel in for Swann in the 1st ODI. I think they'll have to use the word whingeing to describe Indian cricket fans, instead of poms.

  • Anurag_India on September 7, 2011, 12:15 GMT

    I'm not sure whether India supposedly having a "B" eleven is a bad thing to be honest. New players have brought in energy and enthusiasm to the team which has actually benefitted the team. In any case its insulting to the players themselves who are giving their best out there. I'm sure we can still turn it around and there is no reason to assume all is doom and gloom. I'll be getting right behind our team and captaiin come friday and hope for the best.

  • darrenh on September 7, 2011, 12:08 GMT

    Hmm, a lot of sour grapes from some of the india fans. First of all England are not playing India's second team but the best team the BCCI can put out. If every Indian player paid as much attention to their fitness as Dravid I doubt their injury list would be as long. I will also be keeping an eye on CL to see if any of the players currently missing have miraculous recoveries.

  • nadu_1975 on September 7, 2011, 12:07 GMT

    So if we r thinking to get over this disastrous english summer, then there is no end to it. what is more surprising is the fact that the team not only fell to pieces but the mental assault started by the english B4 the series and well stoked by Nasser and Vaughan(Donkey jibe) it has appeared that everyone the players, fans and even the experts(Sunny/Shaz) fell for it. Just look the way these two experienced gentleman behave on getting unnerved. They have forgotten that the players have let a billion fans down. Geeting behind and blaming DRS and other stuff(Injuries) is no more admissible. Mr Shastri and Mr Sunny both u have been equally responsible. Have u seen defending these silly schoolboys at even the slightest pretext. get over all these soon. THE Aussies are waiting 4 us. BCCI pls get over these two fools. I do not want to hear any more Commentaries from these rascals.

  • ian_ghose on September 7, 2011, 11:23 GMT

    Why are some India/BCCI apologists calling this Indian team India A/B/C? Rahane has already scored more runs in 1 innings than Sehwag did in 4, P Patel has scored runs much more fluently and consistently than Tendulkar did, and Dravid has done far better than Gambhir could have. Add to that Raina is actually contributing with the bat. If anything, this Indian batting line-up is much stronger than the one that played in the Test series (and the performances are there for all to see). In the bowling department, Ashwin is as ordinary as Harbhajan Singh, Praveen Kumar is still there and so is Munaf Patel. The only difference might have been between Vinay Kumar and Z Khan (overweight), but thats just difference of 1 person. If anything, this Indian team is probably stronger than the one that played the Test series. There is no place to hide in international cricket. If you're not fit enough or simply not good enough, you will get found not. No amount of excuses will change the match result.

  • on September 7, 2011, 11:12 GMT

    @ TIGG, you forgot sehwag, you forgot Gambhir, You forgot Zaheer or even harbhajan(i agree hes out of form now)..remmbr you english are playing a second string India. Else you wil find your ass burnt!

  • on September 7, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    Dhoni should seriously think of coming Number 3 and get Kohli to play Number 4 , he must lead with the confidence of a World cup hero, at least die by the sword, what use is a 7 run innings. India cant have more disasters than what they already have , its better for the captain to at least try something new.

  • rmaganti on September 7, 2011, 10:29 GMT

    With the current Indian bowling attack, even Boycott's mum can score off them. What happened to Aaron Varun, the supposedly fastest Indian Bowler doing on the bench. Get him to play a few matches. Just like Rahane, who knows he may shine and seal his place in the team. Even if one of the past greats wants to come back into the side, he needs to fight for it. They no longer should walk into the team, this includes names like, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Gambhir, Harbhajan and Zaheer.

  • joephilip on September 7, 2011, 9:44 GMT

    The bowling unit totally failed yesterday and it was really painful to watch India lose another match.P.K looked totally out of sorts and I even felt Sreesanth should have been there for some pace but maybe he would have got thrashed also.Any way hoping that India would win atleast one much in England.Let us win on friday,Good Luck Team India!

  • likeintcricket on September 7, 2011, 9:29 GMT

    Yes, this article looks to be a little bias in favor of England but can someone write me an Indian"A" bowling lineup which can stop England crossing any target. In fact scoring 187 runs against full English bowling side in a damp condition and against one of the best fielding performance is itself remarkable to which even the Indian "A" would envy. But the manner the target was achieved shows the full weakness of Indian bowling side as at no point it gives any trouble to English batsman. One cannot expect too many decent scores against this kind of English bowling/fielding side and if one cannot defend this score than I wouldn't wary about any "article" but wary about things to come in the future.

  • Tigg on September 7, 2011, 9:16 GMT

    @Cricarnab

    So what that it was a weakened Indian team. It wasn't exactly a first choice English lineup. It's pretty much the team India will have to use as a base when Sachin, Dravid, Zaheer and Laxman all retire. The Indian bowling reserves are thin and the top current pacemen like Ishant, sreesanth and Praveen are far from fearsome.

    India were poor with the ball and in the field.

  • jackiethepen on September 7, 2011, 9:06 GMT

    Fielding is tremendously important in the shortest form of the game and credit is due to Andrew Miller for his praise of Bell's performance and stunning work, especially his utterly brilliant catch in the deep. Fielding often gets overlooked. But it shouldn't. It sets the tone as Andrew says. Here is a team prepared to give their all. Bell was out to a false shot, more ambitious than loose, but in T20 type game that is fine as long as your tempo is high - he got 25 off 16 balls and crucially kept up the momentum. Fine work from Cook and Kies. Keep this team together!!

  • skumar77 on September 7, 2011, 8:22 GMT

    IIM Ranchi will now examine Dhoni's brain to see whats wrong with it. Originally, they wanted to examine it to see what was right with it.

  • on September 7, 2011, 8:22 GMT

    I think some of you Indian fans need to realise that the way with cricinfo match reports is that usually theer is a report from the England perspective and another from the Indian perspective. Andrew's is from the England perspective. You are a proud nation of supporters who recently could enjoy being No. 1 in both ODI and Test Cricket and so it will understandably hurt to see the team being criticised but I assure you that when the England cricket team perform poorly the media in this country are equally stinging in their assessment of the English team. It is the nature of sports reporting here. Rather than defend the team against the ultimately harmless impact of media reporting the focus should be on what takes place on (and in preparation for) the pitch.

  • OliverWebber on September 7, 2011, 8:17 GMT

    @Gupta.Ankur - what's biased about this article? It acknowledges the excellence of the Indian batting performance, including Raina's transformation, the fact that many of England's bowlers struggled, and highlights some problems remaining in the England batting line-up (Kieswetter against swing, Bopara who looks nervy). On the other hand it makes the fair comparison between Anderson's new-ball bowling and Kumar's - yesterday Anderson was much better - and points out the excellence of England's (especially Bell's) fielding, which was a critical factor in the match. What would satisfy you - an article showering India with praise even though they lost?!

  • Gupta.Ankur on September 7, 2011, 8:16 GMT

    I am sure if Eng come to India and lose similarly, then he will say that "pitches" were substandard or the temperature was too much to handle.....

  • ian_ghose on September 7, 2011, 8:15 GMT

    Wow!! Some of the Indian fanboys have just lost it now!! Calling the article biased, because it captures exactly how pathetic India have been. @Sukumar_Kantri - if you want comments on the 2008 series, go read articles on the 2008 series. This is the here and now. @ Gupta.Ankur - you're a sore loser. Please do learn how to read and appreciate how England has managed to beat India so convincingly everytime, even if Cricket is not the no.1 sport in England (and England only has 60-odd million to choose from as opposed to India's 1.2 billion - and in case you don't know maths - 1.2 billion is 20 times 60 million). @Cricinfo - please publish this comment, as it is important that biased commentators get the appropriate risposte for their tastless comments (assuming you want that)

  • Naresh28 on September 7, 2011, 8:12 GMT

    Can anyone answer why Pakistan is able to unearth so many quick, strong bowlers at will. Come on BCCI WAKE UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ASPECT OF INDIAN CRICKET. There are no good emerging spinners after Kumble and Harbajan to talk about. England are so confident that they can chase down any total given to them. Cook actually boasted that they could have won the first as well.

  • BifferSpice on September 7, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    if [insert bowler] had been picked, india would have won. i can't believe that [insert current bowler] has been picked. it's all the selectors fault. and dhoni. dhoni should have done something magical out there to somehow alter the entire match. also harbhajan singh being absent has hurt us, even though we were all calling for him to be dropped when he was playing, because we thought he was ineffective, but now realise he would have won us the series. and khan. oh khan would have got every englishman out every time. for 0. and tendulkar out for this series has hurt us so bad, cos you all saw the scintillating form he was in during the test series. it's the IPL, it's the weather. wait till you come to india. series outside india shouldn't count. england need to win in india to be considered number 1 side, even though we can't play outside india either. it's the pitches. you shouldn't be able to make pitches that suit bowlers, not when we haven't got any...

  • on September 7, 2011, 7:51 GMT

    I donot understand y 188 is being hailed as a stiff target. Given the current bowling strength or rather weakness of India and english batting potential, anything below 300 (50 overs) and 200 (20 overs) will be impossible for India to defend. One thing India can do is that they start chasing from now on. Thats their best shot at stealing that victory which is proving to be more and more elusive with each passing day.

  • pom_don on September 7, 2011, 7:46 GMT

    A super job by England & a very easy win I think that England could have still tightened their bowling up a bit (too many short balls that were not working) & restricted India to a lower total, Bopara is still looking a bit tentative too & I can't see why Jimmy was not bowled out....but nevertheless a very good show. India's batters did a good job too. At least no one can blame the batting track for playing tricks as it was very true & batsman friendly & no issues for anyone to crow about (rightly or wrongly) with the umpires........shame about the weather shortening the game especially for the fans who turned up.

  • dhchdh on September 7, 2011, 7:41 GMT

    wow!!!! we have won by beating India B....India C side perhaps; don't walk on the moon yet guys, we might be in for big disappointments in years to come.

  • cricarnab on September 7, 2011, 7:23 GMT

    Hi Andrew, this is my first post in Cricinfo. However as a fan of your writing and an ardent follower of cricinfo, I find the article a little biased. This is India's C or even D team(though frankly speaking it is batting well despite that.) and taking nothing away from England for the effort, I am not ready to give them any extra praise. Further, the game was a virtual 20-20 which complicated things for India on a wet out field and where England got a better deal of the conditions. The bright side for England was Swann. Wish he was younger!! For India, watch out for Ajinkya Rahane. This guy has it in him to be a successful test player too.

  • ste13 on September 7, 2011, 7:12 GMT

    dont't agree with the comments below. India lacked bowling variation, but also they lost belief after just 5 overs. You could not not see any determination - one positive example was Kohli. If England had the similar approach in the first innings, India would have scored 220. Anyway, ODIs in India later this year will will show how good the two teams are. Cook was OK, but to be fair he has not been really tested with moderate run rate after Kiesewetter start.

  • ansram on September 7, 2011, 7:04 GMT

    Winning is a habit ( and so too is losing!) and England carrying on with the momentum here. India surely low on confidence here and do not seem to beleive that they can win in England after the thrashing. It is not new for Indian bowlers to falter, just look at the WC match versus England where Strauss nearly got them home inpite of India setting a huge target - Zak made a difference there and there was nobody to do it here. Atleast India set a competitive total here. :)

  • burnie01 on September 7, 2011, 6:52 GMT

    @SmellyCat: What are you talking about ? The commentators are entitled to give their opinions and 'humility" from Indian fans to English cricket before the tour started was in very short supply on this site ! @Gupta.Ankur (and above): Miller may be English but he's employed by the Asian-based Cricinfo and as a result his articles are usually from the Sub-Continent viewpoint - he is an excellant journalist and on this occasion he is merely reporting accurately India's deficiencies. Unless of course you want a journalist that doesn't criticize India and still maintains that they have a fearsome bowling attack ?

  • on September 7, 2011, 6:45 GMT

    I think Eng play T20 much better than 50 over cricket...This match was effectively a 20-20 one and Eng just destroyed India

  • on September 7, 2011, 6:35 GMT

    win or defeat, i think absence of sachin, sehwag, zaheer, etc is a real test to the bench strength of Indian team. Indian fans should be happy to see the transformation of Parthiv, Ajinkya at the top in batting department. But unfortunately it is the bowling which sucks. I think Varun Aaron should play in eleven, speedsters like Umesh Yadav, Pradeep sangwan also should be brought in so that their abilities also put to test. Lets hope for the best. Win or lose part of the game

  • thewayitwass on September 7, 2011, 6:32 GMT

    Miller, the next time you right an article just think: where would england be with the TEN yes TEN injuries india have sustained? dont sing englands praises so soon my god

  • Wacco on September 7, 2011, 6:30 GMT

    India is actually preparing for their CT. Most of the injured, who ran away from England, will appear for their respective franchise in their backyard. Now even Morgan has opted out. BTW, we can afford to lose Morgan against the dead-woods.

  • Kamran_Pakistan on September 7, 2011, 6:25 GMT

    A good contest between the two teams but on the batting fronts primarily. What I found lacking was that both the captains were clueless for the most part & were trying things haphazardly, all in all good entertainment. English bowlers should realize now that the short-pitched stuff would not be as effective as it was in Tests. I am impressed to see Dernbach sticking to his slower delivery even after he was being shown all around the park, good confidence. Dhoni needs to understand that if an extra batsman can give them cushion in batting, a missing bowler can hurt more since on English pitches it's the bowling that contributes more to your win as opposed to the flat sub-continent pitches where a stronger batting unit wins mostly. And somebody please rid us of these two indian commentators Gavaskar and Shastri, honestly they are too biased, Manjrekar is exceptionally good but these two are really spoiling the match fun, big time. Cricinfo commentary is awesome I must say, keep it up!!

  • PaddyRasta on September 7, 2011, 6:19 GMT

    @Gupta.Ankur What in the article was biased? He praised your batsmen and English batsmen (even negatively highlighted Bopara's uneasiness at the crease) and then stated the obvious - India's bowling was under par, not good enough on the day. And "Their glut of injuries is an excuse that washes only so far, given that England are also feeling the wear and tear of a long season" is also true as England did not play with 3 key batsmen. So what's the problem?

  • on September 7, 2011, 6:16 GMT

    Part of being on the losing side as Indian fans are finding out is to take the jabs from the opposition fans and journalists. The English have been downtrodden for so long that they must be forgiven or perhaps forgotten for being a little too enthusiastic and provocative about not only how good their team is but how bad the Indians are. Time and a few unexpected defeats in the next year will make the English outlook more measured. That is the nature of this sport and its fans.

  • Sukumar_Kantri on September 7, 2011, 6:15 GMT

    The article looks more of a biased English- man article in favour of England. He forgot the whitewash Eng had against India in 2008 when they had a full strength team. India now is having almost all new faces and comebacks.... Depleted bowling strength but still it performed good in the two games, 1st was saved for Eng by Rain and second, the toss & Rain god favoured England. If India had won the toss and bowled first, the scenario would have been different. Stop crticising India just bcos of loss in 1 series..... Still 3 matches to be played and Indian team is looking more positive... Parthiv,Rahane,Dravid,Raina,Kohli played well in these 2 games. PK impressed in 1st , Ashwin a bit in 2nd game... Ind bowling needs to be bit better to win games....

  • Jawaidnazir on September 7, 2011, 6:14 GMT

    India won the wc b/c of luck. Afghan cricket team can beat current Indian team.

  • hris on September 7, 2011, 6:02 GMT

    every commonwealth nation should be proud of how well their team is playing. hehe. please someone change the name. why should England get all the credit for this. :)

  • awesome10 on September 7, 2011, 5:59 GMT

    Dhoni as a batsman has totally failed in this series. As ani_cric mentioned, Dhoni's luck is fading out. We need real talented players who is consistently performing for India. Not once in a bluemoon success. Hopefully India will find two or three good one's fast before Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman retires.

  • CricIndia208 on September 7, 2011, 5:48 GMT

    England are home track bullies who can win only on doctored pitches. England should try winning a few games overseas before opening its mouth.

  • demon_bowler on September 7, 2011, 5:46 GMT

    India need to send for reinforcements -- these old excuses are getting very tired, they need some new ones. If they had all their best excuses here, they could explain away any defeat.

  • Ronsars on September 7, 2011, 5:40 GMT

    Its really sad to see such a biased article.Well played Eng no doubt but this is just too much

  • harryrockz on September 7, 2011, 5:28 GMT

    Reply to Post by Sunil Reddy on (September 07 2011, 03:05 AM GMT)

    Sir, but India didn't just win the world cup with their batting. In only 2 of the games they went past 300 and other game where they got 290+ against SA they lost. That's bcoz batting as a whole has changed. Batsmen are coming up with new innovative strokes. India's WC finals performance in bowling was the reason why they were able to restrict SL to 270+ and win the Cup. If not for that opening spell from Zak and Nehra, Dilshan and Tharanga who were murderous in the QFs against England would have taken this attack apart. Now India is lacking the backup for the injured bowlers. Zaheer and Nehra were a very good pair. We need to groom youngsters for bowling. Its not that India lacks bowling but lacks proper attacking bowlers. And I would not purchase their dependance on the batsmen only. Bcoz if they depend on the batsmen they cannot even defend a score of 400.

  • on September 7, 2011, 5:06 GMT

    England will is white washed in India as well. Revenge is coming.

  • crazytaurean on September 7, 2011, 5:01 GMT

    Indian bowlers made us lose. 185+ was defendable in 23 overs. Cant believe how we lost. It is as good as losing a 50 over match after scoring 380+. The day Praveen Kumar has an off day, we cant hope to defend any damn score with this attack. Varun Aron should get a look in for the next match to provide some variety in pace and approach. I wonder if Jaydev Unadkat would have been a good asset in the absence of Nehra and the injured Zak. RP Singh, if he is in his senses and hungry can be drafted in to address the issue of variety.

  • on September 7, 2011, 4:54 GMT

    The sad truth about the article is that it is written by an Englishman. England are a desperately lucky side. Had this match been 50 overs, I would have loved to see the outcome. Any which ways, very well played england against a probably third string, or maybe fourth string Indian side. And Dhoni, its time to blood in Aaron. If you do not do it, you are an idiot of the highest order

  • on September 7, 2011, 4:50 GMT

    cum back india...i can't handle the show any more.....why vinay .....he & praveen r the same..bring in varn or evn rp..aswin luking off color...have the courage to replace them..don't be stereo type....

  • cricpolitics on September 7, 2011, 4:32 GMT

    I know it is just too much for the Indian fans to digest. All of a sudden their dreams have been shattered since they have been sleeping in such an arrogance that the true reality is proving an extremely bitter pill for them. They are worst than Zimbabe and Bangladesh. It's about time that India start hosting Zimbabwe and Bangladesh in their own backyard. This way they might also get some respect back by winning few matches.

  • cricpolitics on September 7, 2011, 4:29 GMT

    This is exactly what this Indian team deserves. Another white wash is on the cards. Indian was never a number 1 team. Their progression to the number one postion in tests was never natural, it was artificially created for this overhyped team and it is proving that the last world cup was also a settled affair since both India and Sri Lanka are performing miserably in the one dayers.

  • Anurag_India on September 7, 2011, 4:25 GMT

    A biased article I'm afraid, surprising coming from Andew Miller who I thought was capable of far more objectivity. Indian bowling was poor on the day, no doubt, but the conditions were tough and they certainly did not find a new nadir, thats as inaccurate as it can get. Very reminiscent of what touring parties sometimes have to face in Australia.

  • landl47 on September 7, 2011, 4:01 GMT

    @RandyOz: actually Miller's articles aren't biased, but you're too biased to see that. By the way, how did Khawaja get on in the first SL test? Not bad for an import, I'd say. Now, if you could just get a few more like him, maybe Aus would be able to win another Ashes series. Or perhaps you could find another Symonds. Until Aus decides it won't have anybody but Australian-born players representing the country (and you know that's not going to happen), maybe you should stop yapping. Losers yap- and you're the yappiest, so I guess that makes you the biggest loser.

  • Gupta.Ankur on September 7, 2011, 3:48 GMT

    Another dull and biased article from a englishmen......It seems India's misery has given all and sundry a license....

  • m_ilind on September 7, 2011, 3:47 GMT

    Atleast now, BCCI should slow down the pace of cricket played by our team. With an ageing injury prone line up, and a pace attack which is more of an apology, India needs to get a proper XI before embarking on any future tours!

  • Sukumar_Kantri on September 7, 2011, 3:42 GMT

    In an overcast Rain affected match, toss plays most important factor... Half of the result is decided with the toss and Eng had luck in winning it and sending India in. Batting was really good from Indian team with good knocks from Parthiv,Anjikya,Rahul & Raina. Last match bowling star PK had an off day and India failed to control the run flow till 10 overs which had greatly affected the match result. Its highly difficult in wet conditions too. Lack of a genuine pacer had affected India a lot in the match... A much better performance is needed from the second string Indian side to win a few games left in this series.... Will wait and watch how it goes...

  • PaddyRasta on September 7, 2011, 3:32 GMT

    @Indunil76Shantha More than half the team has changed - how many were in the WC? Is it so much that the replacements do not, as they should do, have the hunger to perform? Or is it just that they are being outplayed? I do agree though, Dhoni looks a bit worn out and a change in captaincy may have given India a boost. Dhoni no longer has his star batsmen and Zaheer and Harbhajan to make him look a good captain.

  • SmellyCat on September 7, 2011, 3:12 GMT

    The great WI team was never arrogant and their pacers were very humble and let the ball do the talk. I can see that the English, mostly the commentators, are getting a bit cocky. Probably need to learn a bit of humility to earn the respect and stay at top for longer.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on September 7, 2011, 3:05 GMT

    Well 2 things Eng have a far more competent bowling attack and india is way down on confidence and I guess when that happens no matter how many u score one department has a faliure and rest just spresds like rampant forest fire winning is a habit so is losing I remember during 2008 odi series in india even with flintoff,harmison,anderson,broad,swann eng could not win a single test or ode day match and were rammed 5-0 in odis i tell u what take out yuvi,bhajji,sachin,viru,gautam indian just needs zaheer

  • on September 7, 2011, 3:05 GMT

    I think india won the odi world cup-2011 only with their brilliance in batting not with their hopeless bowling.It is sad for indian cricket that they are still depending on batting n openly saying that they were never good at bowling.How could one team win matches with out taking wickets in any form of the game. India's bowling is surely paceless,sparkless n at times looks like hollow when their regular bowlers were absent.I think in the remaining matches indian bowlers have to show the intent which is lacking in the series so far.

  • ani_cric on September 7, 2011, 3:03 GMT

    Dhoni is fluke and Indai winning WC was fluke .. it has proved again and again... Dhoni had no cricketing brain and things were happening just like that .... he expects fluke to happen everytime .. GOOD LUCK

  • on September 7, 2011, 2:37 GMT

    india agar 50 ovr khelta to jeet ta bt t20 khele toh har gaye.b'cz we r odi champion and dy r t20'sindia agar 50 ovr khelta to jeet ta bt t20 khele toh har gaye.b'cz we r odi champion and dy r t20's

  • Silloh on September 7, 2011, 2:03 GMT

    Cook certainly continues to steam the Indians and make a meal of the bowling with another outstanding performance. If the Indian supporters and the team's Administrators dont realize at this point that England is the clear number one side in the world, then their road to recovery would certainly take a longer time as they continue to slide.

  • Indunil76Shantha on September 7, 2011, 1:52 GMT

    Yes Andrew, you have a point. This Indian team doesn't look like they want to win something. Many feels Dhoni should have been rested for the ODI's and the whole team could have change with some young players who didn't taste the 4-0 of Test bitterment. That could have had a change in approach. and sometimes it works. A young team led by Kholi could have put a better fight than this. "Coz they simply want to prove a point if they were given a chance, mark my word they have enough young players to match that task. Anyway, Congrats to England. How many more ? :)

  • RandyOZ on September 7, 2011, 1:43 GMT

    Ahh Miller you never cease to amaze with your blatantly biased articles. I hope that one day I will finally see a neutral article from you, although I highly doubt that! England and its host of imports will soon slide down the rankings and at least we can then all stop listening to your crowing.

  • landl47 on September 7, 2011, 1:24 GMT

    Maybe you know something we don't, Andrew, but so far England and India have played 7 times- 4 tests, a T20I and 2 ODIs- and England have won 6 out of 6 completed games, with one rain-out. Maybe by Sunday it will be 8 out of 8, but not yet.

  • Wacco on September 7, 2011, 1:24 GMT

    The worst team to visit England shores in this century.Even Bdesh, WI played better here. The clowns should go back to the circus immediately.

  • pkhunter on September 7, 2011, 0:53 GMT

    This was nearly a T20 match, and India seems to be able to win nothing. Batsmen did their job, but the Indian bowling department remains at issue. Well done England team to leverage the opponents' weaknesses.

  • Lmaotsetung on September 7, 2011, 0:36 GMT

    Well look on the bright side...st least this time India did not get bowled out :P

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  • Lmaotsetung on September 7, 2011, 0:36 GMT

    Well look on the bright side...st least this time India did not get bowled out :P

  • pkhunter on September 7, 2011, 0:53 GMT

    This was nearly a T20 match, and India seems to be able to win nothing. Batsmen did their job, but the Indian bowling department remains at issue. Well done England team to leverage the opponents' weaknesses.

  • Wacco on September 7, 2011, 1:24 GMT

    The worst team to visit England shores in this century.Even Bdesh, WI played better here. The clowns should go back to the circus immediately.

  • landl47 on September 7, 2011, 1:24 GMT

    Maybe you know something we don't, Andrew, but so far England and India have played 7 times- 4 tests, a T20I and 2 ODIs- and England have won 6 out of 6 completed games, with one rain-out. Maybe by Sunday it will be 8 out of 8, but not yet.

  • RandyOZ on September 7, 2011, 1:43 GMT

    Ahh Miller you never cease to amaze with your blatantly biased articles. I hope that one day I will finally see a neutral article from you, although I highly doubt that! England and its host of imports will soon slide down the rankings and at least we can then all stop listening to your crowing.

  • Indunil76Shantha on September 7, 2011, 1:52 GMT

    Yes Andrew, you have a point. This Indian team doesn't look like they want to win something. Many feels Dhoni should have been rested for the ODI's and the whole team could have change with some young players who didn't taste the 4-0 of Test bitterment. That could have had a change in approach. and sometimes it works. A young team led by Kholi could have put a better fight than this. "Coz they simply want to prove a point if they were given a chance, mark my word they have enough young players to match that task. Anyway, Congrats to England. How many more ? :)

  • Silloh on September 7, 2011, 2:03 GMT

    Cook certainly continues to steam the Indians and make a meal of the bowling with another outstanding performance. If the Indian supporters and the team's Administrators dont realize at this point that England is the clear number one side in the world, then their road to recovery would certainly take a longer time as they continue to slide.

  • on September 7, 2011, 2:37 GMT

    india agar 50 ovr khelta to jeet ta bt t20 khele toh har gaye.b'cz we r odi champion and dy r t20'sindia agar 50 ovr khelta to jeet ta bt t20 khele toh har gaye.b'cz we r odi champion and dy r t20's

  • ani_cric on September 7, 2011, 3:03 GMT

    Dhoni is fluke and Indai winning WC was fluke .. it has proved again and again... Dhoni had no cricketing brain and things were happening just like that .... he expects fluke to happen everytime .. GOOD LUCK

  • on September 7, 2011, 3:05 GMT

    I think india won the odi world cup-2011 only with their brilliance in batting not with their hopeless bowling.It is sad for indian cricket that they are still depending on batting n openly saying that they were never good at bowling.How could one team win matches with out taking wickets in any form of the game. India's bowling is surely paceless,sparkless n at times looks like hollow when their regular bowlers were absent.I think in the remaining matches indian bowlers have to show the intent which is lacking in the series so far.