England news May 23, 2012

Pietersen fined for Twitter outburst

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Kevin Pietersen has been fined an undisclosed sum for comments he made on Twitter about Nick Knight following a disciplinary hearing involving Hugh Morris, the managing director of England cricket, and team director Andy Flower.

Pietersen has made no secret about his disagreements with Knight, the former England batsman who is now a Sky Sports commentator, and recently posted this remark. "Can somebody please tell me how Nick Knight has worked his way into the commentary box for the Tests?? Ridiculous."

An ECB statement said: "The hearing considered recent comments made by Pietersen on Twitter to be prejudicial to the interests of the ECB and a breach of the England player conditions of employment in relation to clauses regarding public statements.

"Pietersen has been fined an undisclosed sum, part of which has been suspended for 12 months, in accordance with the terms and conditions of his England central contract."

Andrew Strauss, speaking ahead of the second Test against West Indies, said Twitter would throw up these situations. "There are always shades of grey," he told Sky Sports. "It does a really good publicising job but players can find themselves in hot water occasionally. There's a line they need to tread. You will get occasions when people slip up and they will be dealt with accordingly."

Pietersen's animosity is thought to originate from Knight's suggestion when his form was at its lowest that he was no longer worth a place in England's one-day side.

In January, Sky agreed a new four-year deal to show live international and county cricket believed to be worth about £280 million ($440 million) betrween 2013-17 with an option for a further two years. The deal provides the bulk of the ECB's income.

The ECB punishment of a player for rubbishing a member of the media is at the very least out of character, and perhaps unique. The justification is said to be that that Pietersen sinned for making a sweeping generalisation about Knight's ability as a commentator rather than attacking a specific comment.

Earlier this week Pietersen was asked whether he considered leaving Twitter. "No, not at all, no. I won't stop, no," he said.

It is the second time Pietersen has found himself in trouble over Twitter after he reacted to being dropped from the one-day squad in 2010 with an outburst which he said was meant to be sent as a private message to a friend. "Done for rest of summer!! Man of the World Cup T20, and dropped from the T20 side too. It's a f**k-up ..." He was fined an undisclosed sum on that occasion, too.

In 2009 Tim Bresnan also caused controversy when he swore at a follower. He later apologised to Flower who said at the time: "If you are an England player you have obviously got to behave in a certain way It is pretty simple if you are on a public site like that - you have to behave yourself."

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY pjmeade on | May 25, 2012, 8:54 GMT

    KP has a point, some of the SKY commentary is pretty puerile and an international career does not mean that someone is necessarily lucid. I seem to remember Nasser, now a Sky stalwart having a go at the commentary team after being critical. Some of the snippets that make me cringe are indeed Nasser's "dissected the field" and the "preambulation" at Lord's being two that float to the top of the verbal septic tank. Sky does have some splendid commentators, Gower, Atherton, Allot and Lloyd, but others drag the standard down to that of Australian commentary and on really bad days, to IPL level. The overall poor quality of the sky commentary may well have lead to establishment of the hugely popular Test Match Sofa and continued to send listeners to the other TMS for their cricket chat. Overall, I don't think it's wrong for KP to be critical of the Sky commentary team, even though Sky may ultimately be where his pay comes from. I think it is Sky that should review its standards.

  • POSTED BY IndianCricketGuru on | May 25, 2012, 8:08 GMT

    Did KP say any thing wrong? Nick has no business to comment on class of KP.. Nick is too far and unauthorised for it... Sorry KP..

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | May 24, 2012, 21:56 GMT

    Twitter is so lame, but whats more worrying is that KP just never seems to be bale to keep his mouth shut, and lets face it, he didn't exactly set the world alight in the last test. Plus Nick Knight played for England much more than Mark Nicholas did !, and KP has no probs with Mark. KP needs to concentrate on scoring runs, something he didn't do very well in the last test.

  • POSTED BY romoss on | May 24, 2012, 21:49 GMT

    No-one has yet answered KP's question What is NK doing in the com box? Would be more suited for Womens test cricket (nothing wrong with that). Anyway why should I care as like many others turn the Sky commentary off and listen to TMS.

    Romoss

  • POSTED BY ElBeeDubya on | May 24, 2012, 20:43 GMT

    I can understand how a tweet of an EMPLOYEE can upset the BOSSES. OTOH, we should SUPPORT the players who don't always toe the COMPANY line like KP and SANGAKKARA. Cricketers have become BORING these days as if they are working for the PR arm of a company... I also think KP would make an excellent commentator once he retires from cricket. He reminds me of JOHN McENROE who also had tremendous natural talent and became a good tennis commentator after his retirement. JM won ONLY seven grand slams and he was an underachiever considering the skills he possessed! One could say the same about KP so far. KP should average near SIXTY, not fifty.

  • POSTED BY eseabourne on | May 24, 2012, 20:23 GMT

    I don't really know a) why he's lashed out at Knight when half the country said he should be dropped and b) why Pietersen is bothered anyway, as he's playing in the match not watching it on TV.

  • POSTED BY mE_wE on | May 24, 2012, 19:40 GMT

    whats wrong with it? If a commentator can speak about how worthy a player is, why not the other way round? Hippocrates huh!!

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | May 24, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    KP is pretty lucky. When Phil Hughes did it in 2009 he got the Black Spot from Ponting and basically that finished him as a Test cricketer. Pity really.

  • POSTED BY TheDoctor394 on | May 24, 2012, 19:17 GMT

    So the commentators can say what they want about the players, but the players better keep their mouths shut about the commentators.

  • POSTED BY mynoon on | May 24, 2012, 17:37 GMT

    He got fined for that. Just stupid.

  • POSTED BY pjmeade on | May 25, 2012, 8:54 GMT

    KP has a point, some of the SKY commentary is pretty puerile and an international career does not mean that someone is necessarily lucid. I seem to remember Nasser, now a Sky stalwart having a go at the commentary team after being critical. Some of the snippets that make me cringe are indeed Nasser's "dissected the field" and the "preambulation" at Lord's being two that float to the top of the verbal septic tank. Sky does have some splendid commentators, Gower, Atherton, Allot and Lloyd, but others drag the standard down to that of Australian commentary and on really bad days, to IPL level. The overall poor quality of the sky commentary may well have lead to establishment of the hugely popular Test Match Sofa and continued to send listeners to the other TMS for their cricket chat. Overall, I don't think it's wrong for KP to be critical of the Sky commentary team, even though Sky may ultimately be where his pay comes from. I think it is Sky that should review its standards.

  • POSTED BY IndianCricketGuru on | May 25, 2012, 8:08 GMT

    Did KP say any thing wrong? Nick has no business to comment on class of KP.. Nick is too far and unauthorised for it... Sorry KP..

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | May 24, 2012, 21:56 GMT

    Twitter is so lame, but whats more worrying is that KP just never seems to be bale to keep his mouth shut, and lets face it, he didn't exactly set the world alight in the last test. Plus Nick Knight played for England much more than Mark Nicholas did !, and KP has no probs with Mark. KP needs to concentrate on scoring runs, something he didn't do very well in the last test.

  • POSTED BY romoss on | May 24, 2012, 21:49 GMT

    No-one has yet answered KP's question What is NK doing in the com box? Would be more suited for Womens test cricket (nothing wrong with that). Anyway why should I care as like many others turn the Sky commentary off and listen to TMS.

    Romoss

  • POSTED BY ElBeeDubya on | May 24, 2012, 20:43 GMT

    I can understand how a tweet of an EMPLOYEE can upset the BOSSES. OTOH, we should SUPPORT the players who don't always toe the COMPANY line like KP and SANGAKKARA. Cricketers have become BORING these days as if they are working for the PR arm of a company... I also think KP would make an excellent commentator once he retires from cricket. He reminds me of JOHN McENROE who also had tremendous natural talent and became a good tennis commentator after his retirement. JM won ONLY seven grand slams and he was an underachiever considering the skills he possessed! One could say the same about KP so far. KP should average near SIXTY, not fifty.

  • POSTED BY eseabourne on | May 24, 2012, 20:23 GMT

    I don't really know a) why he's lashed out at Knight when half the country said he should be dropped and b) why Pietersen is bothered anyway, as he's playing in the match not watching it on TV.

  • POSTED BY mE_wE on | May 24, 2012, 19:40 GMT

    whats wrong with it? If a commentator can speak about how worthy a player is, why not the other way round? Hippocrates huh!!

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | May 24, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    KP is pretty lucky. When Phil Hughes did it in 2009 he got the Black Spot from Ponting and basically that finished him as a Test cricketer. Pity really.

  • POSTED BY TheDoctor394 on | May 24, 2012, 19:17 GMT

    So the commentators can say what they want about the players, but the players better keep their mouths shut about the commentators.

  • POSTED BY mynoon on | May 24, 2012, 17:37 GMT

    He got fined for that. Just stupid.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    Its mind boggling to see so many people bashing Nick Knight here. Pietersen's remarks about Knight's commentating were completely uncalled for.There is always a line that you should know not to cross being a representative of the national team.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 15:19 GMT

    Nick Knight's One Day record gives him the technical ability to express his views about Pietersen; the latter is exciting to watch but his mouth is sometimes bigger than his bat. If you live in the fast lane as he does you must take both sides of the coin; Knight is a nice individual and perhaps Pietersen could learn something from him.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 14:54 GMT

    The Sky commentators are not as good as previous ones; they do rather describe events which we can see and don't need describing. This is mainly Bumble, who seems to like the sound of his own voice (rather like KP!). Mark Nicholas is one of the best commentators around for various reasons; Athers is excellent, too. Generally, though too many try to emulate the excellent radio broadcasters, which isn't appropriate for television.

  • POSTED BY 2.14istherunrate on | May 24, 2012, 14:41 GMT

    I enjoy watching KP bat as much as anyone i have watched. Proven players generally now get the space to get back to form within the team. Averages are based on career achievements and measuring an average for a between times period is a bit pointless as the average for another period would be much higher. I am amazed anyone should really have to draw attention to remarks made by either party, on TV or on twitter. i am personally not convinced that twiter adds very much to our lives at all, beyond making facebook seem better than twitter. tweeting seems better left to avian species, or to the upper range speakers in our stereos, though i did find george Dobell's comment on Dylan's changing his middle name to Willis amusing. Mostly twitter seems to be recipe for people to make idiot's out of themselves simply by making too much irrelevant information about themselves public. To fine a player for making a remark about a comentator seems paranoid in the way WICB are paranoid. Sad!!

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 14:17 GMT

    @Mark Troman I have read every statement on her some are over the top. You summed it up in a couple of sentences. A quiet word is all that was needed. You are right I feel that the ECB have embarrassed themselves in this situation and have now opened the door to further scrutiny from Sky Sports if any player now would say the slightest thing that would upset them (Commentators). It will be interesting to see how this plays out going forward if other players step out of line. Also one thing I would like to know. Where does the money for the fine go to. Does it go to the ECB or do they donate it to helping clubs that are struggling financially?

  • POSTED BY SuperSharky on | May 24, 2012, 14:16 GMT

    It looks like Knight and KP likes to have a go at each other in public. But I think that Knight should first learn the trade from his co-commentators (like Agnew) and that KP should let his bat do the talking and not his fingers. If KP keeps on scoring runs, then he don't need to worry how Knight wants to mislead the nation and jeopardize KP's career. They should all mellow out.

  • POSTED BY Divinetouch on | May 24, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    KP continue to tell it as it is. The same people who are criticising u now would like to be supported should they choose to speak out.

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | May 24, 2012, 14:00 GMT

    this story has ZERO similarity with Gayle's issue ...

    Gayle made comments (1) After he was dropped ,(2) After the WICB tried to block him from playing in the 2011 IPL, even though he was dropped (3) After the Coach made disparaging remarks against all the senior players (4) After Chanderpaul had a verbal spat with the same coach about asking him to retire and the talked to the media about the disparaging remarks the coach made against the former players.

    So Nick Knight made a comment about Peiterson's consistency and form ... He is a commentator, that is his job... I'd Say Peiterson is WAY more out of line than Gayle ... But I don't think Peiterson is going to get an indefinite life ban until he apologises , reneges on all his IPL commitments and give up all his endorsements !

    So I find it very difficult to see the similarities .... but there are GLARING differences

  • POSTED BY robross on | May 24, 2012, 13:54 GMT

    This all seems a bit silly to me, irrespective of each others abilities it doesn't appear to be much more than playground stuff. Commentators frequently say opinions that players might not like, the idea that players cannot respond ss a little far fetched? KP seems to have taken previous comments to heart and does appear to be making matters more personal than needed. It strikes me a guy with his ability and confidence in it should have broader shoulders. I suppose the fine is in keeping with treating all players equally (i.e. Bresnan) The sad thing for me is that this is as bigger story as it has become. It seems that certain channels encourage out-spoken ideas with a view to building hype; whether that belongs in the beautiful game is, I think, a bigger issue?

  • POSTED BY NikhilNair on | May 24, 2012, 13:35 GMT

    I love KP's comments. He doesn't seem like the guy who talks dirty behind the curtains... now that takes some guts. Respect! :)

  • POSTED BY Nutcutlet on | May 24, 2012, 13:25 GMT

    If KP courts publicity - and he most certainly does - then he must expect the odd critical comment. It does not do for professional sportsmen to indulge in having swipes at commentators - it demeans the sportsman far more than the comm - but considered thinking-before-speaking (or tweeting) has never been KP's strong point. Great commentators do not have to have had illustrious Test careers (Arlott, Johnners) and those that have great records (Boycott springs to mind, but he's not the only one) are often so taken up with narcissism that they detract from their playing careers by spending their retirements telling the world how good they were. The bottom line is that some still have growing up to do - no matter how old they've got! As for KP - he's got years & years (God willing) ahead of him - and one day nearly all the sharp edges will have been knocked off him and he'll be a rounded human being. That'll be nice!

  • POSTED BY Natesan333 on | May 24, 2012, 13:01 GMT

    @ johnathonjosephs Your statement is not entirly true. Pietrson is part of an organization, which means he has to abide by their rules. In the US a NFL player can't go around saying whatever he wants and claim freedom of speech, correct? Having said that, I really have no problem of what he said, and personely don't think he should be fined.

  • POSTED BY RohanMarkJay on | May 24, 2012, 12:45 GMT

    With new technological media which didn't exist even 10 years ago. Since most international cricketers have an iphone hooked up to the net. Before they would give a sound bite to a tabloid newspaper. Now they because of twitter can pretty much freely say to the world what they really think 24/7. However I think Petersen is entitled to express his opinion freely with out fear. Twitter etc are not mainstream media so it shouldn't be grounds for a fine or any other retribution. Petersen is an outspoken guy with strong views people may not agree with them but he does have a right to say it giving a fine seems just not right.

  • POSTED BY sheila_4 on | May 24, 2012, 12:25 GMT

    The most outspoken sportsmen are often the most accurate and honest and go on to become excellent commentators of the game. Geoff Boycott in cricket and John McEnroe in tennis spring to mind as obvious examples.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 12:21 GMT

    Firstly I think KP is a fantastic player and he is entitled to his opinion and as someone said it is not as if he used abusive language at all or was particularly personal he just said he basically doesn't rate Knight as a commentator.

    I actually quite like Knight as a commentator he has a nice way about him and all commentators at some point come out with stupid comments, however as one poster here did just mute the commentary if you are not keen on Knight and listen to TMS. As far Knights credentials are concerned he was an excellent one day batsmen so can't really have a go there but Agnew did not play many and he is an excellent commentator in my opinion.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    A comparison of Pietersen's and Knight's careers is irrelevant. What's important is what they said. Knight criticised Pietersen's form, not the individual, which he's entitled to do. Pietersen responded with an 'ad hominem' attack. That just makes KP look worse. He should let his bat do the tweeting.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 11:38 GMT

    Money talks. Nick Knight and his bosses made a complaint and reminded the ECB of their investment no doubt. He didn't overstep the line but it looks like tit for tat which is embarrassing for the ECB. A quiet word and no more would have done.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    You don't have to be a top class Test player and to have played 100 Tests to be a good cricket commentator. Botham was a great all round cricketer but his commentaries are bland and boorish. I could listen to Mikey Holding all day long- sensible, passionate and great knowledge of the game. How many Tests did John Arlott, Neville Cardus and EW Swanton play- by Pietersens criteria they should never have been near a microphone or pen. Nick Knight is a deep thinker on the game who would have had a decent Test career if he had been given a good run in the side and his 1 Day record is very good. Pietersen is a fine player and an important member of the England team but at times he acts like a spoilt little baby who needs everybody to tell him what a truly great player he is

  • POSTED BY kreeketer on | May 24, 2012, 10:54 GMT

    I am with KP on this one... there is an era difference and KP is a class act and as usual Nick has just passes on a abyssmal comment.... Dont Listen to it KP...carry on with your good from from IPL 2012

  • POSTED BY Biggsey on | May 24, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    Completely agree with KP, have ben saying for years that Nick Knight is the worst commentator on Sky. His attempts at 3rd Man Analysis are farcical. I nearly split my sides on Sunday when he suggested on air that England were going to bowl at Shiv from a shorter run up because he'd mentioned the same to David Saker earlier. As if!! Any time he's on air I have to mute the TV and put TMS on. Lord knows how he got his gig at Sky and even more so how he's clung onto it!

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    I remember Michael Vaughan( Captain ) saying to Jonathan Agnew ' How many Tests did you play ( three ) ...... see, not good enough ', and no action was taken.

  • POSTED BY johnathonjosephs on | May 24, 2012, 10:41 GMT

    Here in America, we have something called freedom on speech. Athletes can say what they want to say most of the time, no matter how criticized they are. It should be the same around the world. Who cares if Pietersen doesn't like some people and says it openly. It just proves he has no sportsmanship, but he shouldn't be fined or anything for it. Let players say what they want. I'm tired of Cricket Boards trying to mold players into the same generic person

  • POSTED BY AdrianVanDenStael on | May 24, 2012, 10:23 GMT

    Firstly I don't agree with those who are suggesting Nick Knight somehow has no right to be in the commentary box on account of his record as a player; look up how few players have played 100 ODIs for England and averaged over 40 if you think that. However, while I've criticised Pietersen for various things in the past, but I think he's been hard done by. His comments are really rather mild; I was expecting to see that he'd used abusive language when he was fined, but I can't see why anyone would be fined for this. As the article suggests a fine for this reason is unprecedented. I can only only assume that the ECB, rather like recent British governments, are terrified of offending Sky and Mr Murdoch, which is an indication of how much power they have not just in the game of cricket but also in British society in general. In further consequence, because this message is faintly critical of Sky and Murdoch, I heartily expect that it won't get published.

  • POSTED BY Nortoner on | May 24, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    I wonder why Pietersen gets fined for derogatory comment about a commentator when people like Boycott and Hussein (and Nick Knight if it comes to that) can belittle any current player they choose during their commentary.

  • POSTED BY glance_to_leg on | May 24, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    KP is a wonderful batsman. NK was a very decent batsman, and an articulate, charming, and intelligent commentator. Neville Cardus was the finest writer and thinker on cricket ever, and was short-sighted and never played seriously. Why do people believe that because they have sporting ability their views on a subject count. KP should stop his borish pontificating, and get on with playing the brilliant entertaining cricket of which he is capable, letting more intelligent if doubtless less talented people inform us about the game.

  • POSTED BY nlight on | May 24, 2012, 10:14 GMT

    If the comments had been made by a true great of the game like Botham, it would have been easier to bear the criticism. I can understand why kp took exception to the remarks by a mediocrity who isn't even an interesting commentator.

  • POSTED BY the_wallster on | May 24, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    @Front-Foot-Lunge et al. - Nick Knight's ODI ave (100 games) - 40.41. KP's ODI ave (127 games) - 41.84. Nuff said really. Nick was absolutely right in his criticism of KP's 50 over record. Pietersen is unquestionably a far superior player than Knight could ever have been, but to be averaging just 1 run more than him shows he was justified in his questioning of Pietersen in the team. All the 'average player' comments about Knight - just check out those two stats...

  • POSTED BY FreddyForPrimeMinister on | May 24, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    I'm a huge KP fan, not just as a cricketer but as an individual, but this story has really disappointed me. Nick Knight is a first class presenter, who provides thoughtful and insightful commentary - a little in the mould of Mark Nicholas (as opposed to Willis, Boycott or Botham) in that he rarely gives outright criticism, perhaps aware of his own fallibilities as a player, but prefers to suggest that a batsman might be "disappointed" with his shot selection, etc. As a player, Knight was not a superstar but his ODI record was exceptional (I used to love the way he charged down the track to the fast bowlers!) and I think he was unfairly pigeon-holed as a one day batsman. Like Neil Fairbrother, I get the impression that after a few failures at Test level, yet successful ODIs, he was told that he was clearly suited to the latter, rather than being encouraged to take his form and confidence into the 5 day arena. I hope the same doesn't happen to Eoin Morgan! Be a man and apologize, KP!

  • POSTED BY nikhil_tawde on | May 24, 2012, 10:04 GMT

    KP should be punished for his disrespect towards a former cricket player.

  • POSTED BY PACERONE on | May 24, 2012, 10:03 GMT

    Nick Knight is not a good commentator.Because one can justify making English players look good and never say anything bad about them does not make him good.We all know that KP is full of himself,but we always say we live in a democratic country,but find some people been censored for what they say.An umpire could make the worst decisions and if a player said that he was lousy in the match he would be fined.Just lie and you will be okay.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 10:00 GMT

    @ windiesfactchecker, its nice that you are able to draw a parallel between he being fined and ask why wasn't the same done to in the case of Gayle but it seems that you failed to take note of the last paragraph and the statement by Flower. Don't be so selective in your analysis if only for you namesake, a certain level of decorum is expected by those who occupy such high social standings or maybe that's just our way of doing things in the Caribbean where fame and money trumps all yet we wonder why our society is the way it is. In my estimation the statement made by Gibson after the world cup( normal for coaches to call out players, though in gibson case he was broadly general and said senior players) should have never have generated the kind of public assault we saw from Gayle, yet we are seeing players in more successful outfits knowing automatically that they should apologise if only to save face and maintain the standards expected of them. but you will never see it like that!!

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 9:28 GMT

    What difference does it make how good a player Nick Knight was? He did have success in an England shirt if I remember rightly. As a pundit and a commentator I find him very knowledgeable, erudite, and not lacking in charisma - if only KP had all those qualities.

  • POSTED BY Thomas_George on | May 24, 2012, 9:25 GMT

    It does not matter whether Nick Knight played good cricket or whether he is good at commentary. He is an employee of ECB; Kevin Pietersen also is. Kevin Pietersen is not paid for talking, Nick Knight is and talk he did. KP should have taken his problems to the meam management and ECB officials.

  • POSTED BY Lmaotsetung on | May 24, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    I believe WICB can't fine Gayle cause he is not employed by them...i.e he is not under contract...remember...he declined a central contract so he can play a full season of IPL.

  • POSTED BY Cris_Lee on | May 24, 2012, 9:04 GMT

    KP was asking a genuine question, except that he shoud'nt have used the word 'ridiculous'. Its been a trend that most of the unpopular and flopped players end up as commentators, and just because they represent a sponsor and given a mic, they think they have the expertise to comment on some of the best players, like KP. Now this is 'ridiculous'. The main problem is, the ECB is cash-strapped. Hence, the situation has made them desperated to hold on to a sponsor at the cost of the players. Where is the freedom of speech?

  • POSTED BY Stark62 on | May 24, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    If you can get a 100 against the likes of Wasim, Waqar and Saqlain, then your not a bad batsmen!

  • POSTED BY bharath74 on | May 24, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    ECB probably looking for a chance to Punish KP after his comments about IPL. Well the fact is KP is the best batsman ENG have ever had in the recent times, i guess he deserves some freedom.

  • POSTED BY gbqdgj on | May 24, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    @Rally_Windies...sorry but NK did play in the 20/20 era and though he was a classy 1 day player he was not as good as KP in any form of the game...just for the record I think NK averaged about 29 in 20/20 with a sstrike rate of about 130 and KP avergaes over 35 with a strike rate approaching 140...sorry no contest.

  • POSTED BY WindiesFactChecker on | May 24, 2012, 7:50 GMT

    @Ricardo Mitchell Unfortunately it didn't end like the situation with the W.I.C.B. and Gayle. If the WICB had just fined Gayle when he made those statements last year, the whole long drama would have been over a long time ago. But, as everyone should realize by now the WICB is not a proper Cricket Board like the others.

  • POSTED BY Digithead100 on | May 24, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    @landl47:that's not true.under peitersen's captaincy england beat south africa 4-o in an odi series.

  • POSTED BY jokerbala on | May 24, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    Nick knight was an abysmal batsman? really? I've seen worse. He was a good ODI opener . Dont know what happened to his career but I remember his 2 consecutive centuries opening the innings against a good Pakistan bowling line up.

  • POSTED BY S.Jagernath on | May 24, 2012, 7:31 GMT

    Kevin Pietersen somehow believes that he is the most special cricketer in the world.He is a man who cannot back up his words with the bat against quality attacks.The Sky commentary team is the best in the world,they are all thinkers of the game.Honestly,I'd miss Nick Knight's commentary more than watching Pietersen bat or speak in his fake English accent.

  • POSTED BY Hammond7249 on | May 24, 2012, 7:15 GMT

    Nick Knight is a good commentator. At least he gets behind England which is more than I can say for most of the others. Besides, could any of you do better? It's pretty easy to criticise someone when you've never done the job yourself.

  • POSTED BY Claremont7 on | May 24, 2012, 7:11 GMT

    Peterson has been controversial since his arrival in England. He has been trying desperately to be British but not following the true essence of being British. Nick Knight may not have been a good player but he is definitely a very good analyst. His employers are satisfied with his performance.

  • POSTED BY yorkslanka on | May 24, 2012, 7:05 GMT

    @punchdrunk- pls no,anyone but willis,who IMHO is the worst commentator on sky ad should be removed..bring back bumble!!

  • POSTED BY Praxis on | May 24, 2012, 7:01 GMT

    This is bad, KP's previous records may not not help us see it clearly, its just an opinion published on a social network & technically it has nothing to do with English cricket. If its wrong then journalists & former cricketers can write millions of articles & blogs about it, but ECB shouldn't have any jurisdiction here. Sky's power is scary!

  • POSTED BY simon_w on | May 24, 2012, 6:57 GMT

    to be honest, a lot of the sky commentators are rubbish. most of them have major prima facie credibility (in terms of illustrious playing careers), but few are any good at actually commentating. Nick Knight is a pretty bad, but no worse than many.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | May 24, 2012, 6:47 GMT

    KP isnt the first and wont be the last to express his views about commentators or the powers that be. IIRC Larwood launched a scathing attack on the MCC after they critized him for Bodyline, Fred Trueman was equally as out spoken, as was Geoff boycott during his playing days (and still is). They all got penalised, Larwood never played for england again for refusing to appologise for doing what he was told by Jardine, Trueman was dropped/overlooked on a number of Occasions, and Boycott well we all know what happened with him and yorkshire..The difference, communication is more direct and faster...PS agree with him about knight as a cricketer, but that doesnt mean hes not a reasonable commentator.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 6:11 GMT

    He's absolutely right though, Nick was rubbish as a test batsmen and he's near unbearable as a commentator. Send him home and spend the money to get Cozier over there, Knight offers nothing to the broadcast that Vaughany doesn't already.

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | May 24, 2012, 5:55 GMT

    sorry, Kevin. but Nick would have been a better 20/20 batsman than you if this format was available to him ..

    other people like Mark Waugh, Ricardo Powell, and Kambli, are all very unfortunate to miss this format by 1 generation ......

    they all would have been better than Peiterson

  • POSTED BY anver777 on | May 24, 2012, 5:49 GMT

    Mr.KP.. WI series is on & i believe you better concentrate on the series, rather than getting in to unwanted issues !!!!

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge on | May 24, 2012, 5:30 GMT

    LMAO at this! Knight was a pretty abysmal player, Pieterson one of the best talents the world has ever seen, even inventing his own shot which is now legendary amongst cricket fans today (the Switch-Hit). Pure comedy.

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | May 24, 2012, 5:19 GMT

    No-one ever accused KP of being a deep thinker. He's a gifted natural cricketer, but thinking isn't his strong point, as he proved when he was England's captain for a short and unsuccessful period. If it's a question of understanding the game and having informed opinions on players and how they perform, I'll take Knight's opinion over KP's any day.

  • POSTED BY brittop on | May 24, 2012, 4:43 GMT

    @Philip Edward Robins: Since commentators are paid to comment on the game, it's a bit naive to expect them not to say stuff about the players. It should be done without personal animosity. Also what repercussions do they players suffer under criticism? If they get dropped by the selectors basing their decisions on the commentators' views, then the selectors are not doing their job properly. Finally, people posting on boards like this say far worse about players than the commentators do. Perhaps KP should slag us off too.

  • POSTED BY brittop on | May 24, 2012, 4:20 GMT

    @Joshua Johnson: Why should the best players make the best commentators? Wouldn't rate Beefy as one of the best.

  • POSTED BY brittop on | May 24, 2012, 4:17 GMT

    @wiseshah: What company do you work for? Mine has a policy that no-one is allowed to post anything on social media sites that could be detrimental to the company. Bet yours does too.

  • POSTED BY AnshulNagar on | May 24, 2012, 4:14 GMT

    KP thinks he is some superstar, he thinks he is one of the best batsman in the world , n the problem is -------- HE IS RIGHT.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 3:42 GMT

    Every cricketer is bound by ethics and Code of Conduct published by respective regulatory bodies.

  • POSTED BY EgoTrippin on | May 24, 2012, 3:38 GMT

    I think both KP and NK are wrong here. There is no point of commenting at each other. Cricket is a gentlemen's game, at least that's what it had claimed all this while, so both of them should try and protect its reputation. Cricket was born in England. English players should maintain discipline, both on and off the field, and set an example for other nations. They should just apologize to each other and ceasefire.

  • POSTED BY RyanHarrisGreatCricketer on | May 24, 2012, 2:36 GMT

    what kp tweets is his personal life and not ecb's headache

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 1:27 GMT

    Best move England has made in the last ten years was removing KP as England captain.

  • POSTED BY featurewriter on | May 24, 2012, 1:21 GMT

    Joshua Johnson, maybe you're thinking about another Nick Knight? Because this Nick Knight did accomplish quite a bit in his cricketing career. 100 ODIs at an average of better than 40 and a first-class career with more than 16,000 runs at an average just shy of 45 (including 40 centuries). Not only that, Nick Knight was a great ambassador for the game. He's now a commentator, by the very nature of the job he is required to comment on cricket and cricketers, including providing an opinion. That's what he did with KP - he provided an opinion. No player - whether KP, Ponting, Tendulkar, Kallis or Chanderpaul - is entitled to their position; and they are all subject to condemnation and commendation from commentators.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 1:11 GMT

    I have simular views on Michael Slater. I don't like his commentary and all he ever did was make 90's. I could go on and on but at least Kevin Pietersen is honest.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 0:54 GMT

    How many centuries did Knight hit?

  • POSTED BY NanoTechnology on | May 24, 2012, 0:49 GMT

    I haven't heard Nick Knight commentating, but I disagree that you need to be a "great" player to have a subsequent media roll. There are plenty of great players who simply don't have the charm and eloquence to make interesting commentators. There are also plenty of merely useful players who provide thoughtful and intriguing analysis, such as Ed Smith, Ian Smith, or David Lloyd.

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 0:48 GMT

    @Les DaCosta one mans job is to comment on cricketing matters the other is to play cricket. You figure whos who

  • POSTED BY on | May 24, 2012, 0:39 GMT

    Nick who ? lol...............................................................

  • POSTED BY wiseshah on | May 23, 2012, 23:55 GMT

    why ECB care what player do outside of field? twitter and facebook are for personal expression, not ECB's matter

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 23:45 GMT

    This is so similar to the W.I.C.B story with Gayle...not good at all!!

  • POSTED BY OzWally on | May 23, 2012, 23:39 GMT

    Gotta love KP, he says what he believes no matter the consequences. Which funnily enough probably proves he's not English and should not be playing for the National team.

  • POSTED BY skkh on | May 23, 2012, 23:38 GMT

    This guy has always had a big mouth and Nick Knight is right, his place in the England team is questionable. He puts in one good innings every 5-7 tests.

  • POSTED BY AcrobaticHenry on | May 23, 2012, 23:38 GMT

    and also Aichael Vaughan..

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 23:36 GMT

    I completely agree with Pietersen. Nick Knight achieved basically nothing in his career. Only great players should commentate for Test matches. How exactly do you compare Knight to the likes of Botham? You don't.

  • POSTED BY wifan16 on | May 23, 2012, 23:29 GMT

    everyone knows peterson thinks he is the best player in the world..too bad he can't back that up with his bat!!!..he (kp) is very egotistical and respect others...he is the reason i will never support england or delhi daredevils!!!

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 23:20 GMT

    So it is ok for Knight to attack Pieterson and his livelyhood from the commentary box!? Get real Knight and ECB

  • POSTED BY Meety on | May 23, 2012, 23:19 GMT

    Man I hate Twitter & Facebook! Valuable lesson for KP - think before you type mate!

  • POSTED BY the_wallster on | May 23, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    I don't what KP's problem is. Nick Knight is a fine commentator with fresh and unorthodox views on the game. He was totally spot-on when commenting on KP being dropped from the one-day team. At the time Pietersen hadn't hit a century in 3 years and was averaging around 30. A totally legitimate view, and he was subsequently dropped if memory serves me correct.

  • POSTED BY AnthoniJi on | May 23, 2012, 23:13 GMT

    I think it is ridiculous that a man does not have freedom of speech. What is the world coming to?

  • POSTED BY luks on | May 23, 2012, 23:09 GMT

    This is wrong. Commentators can comment on a cricketer's ability, but cricketers can't comment on a commentator's ability?

  • POSTED BY ThePieChucker on | May 23, 2012, 23:08 GMT

    This is ridiculous. Why should England be bothered about Pietersen making a disparaging remark about a Sky Sports commentator? It was a pretty innocuous comment at that, certainly nothing that merits a warning, let alone a disciplinary hearing and a fine. The fact that the ECB came down so heavily on Pietersen suggests that there might be some truth to his insinuation that Knight did not earn his commentary position wholly through merit.

  • POSTED BY 44johter on | May 23, 2012, 23:05 GMT

    I wonder if gayle read this.

  • POSTED BY Erebus26 on | May 23, 2012, 23:00 GMT

    To be fair KP was spot here. Nick Knight has got to be the smuggest commentator at Sky.

  • POSTED BY elsmallo on | May 23, 2012, 22:37 GMT

    This is pretty dreadful stuff. Knight's alright but he does make a lot of crazy comments behind the mike; it can be hard to work out what the ** he's on about sometimes. Pietersen, though, can be brainless sometimes. I'm sure it's annoying being slagged off by an ex player you probably don't have much time for, but KP will have his opportunities to settle these scores when he's retired. Still, it's all grist for the mill and whatnot...

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 22:26 GMT

    One day Pietersen might finally engage his brain before speaking but I'm not banking on it.

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 22:20 GMT

    players should be allowed to express their opinion

  • POSTED BY General_Craig on | May 23, 2012, 22:08 GMT

    Completely agree with Pietersen's opinion Nick Knight, the guy is dull as dishwater. ECB clearly doing everything to avoid upsetting the almighty Sky.

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 22:05 GMT

    man i love this guy..always in the limelight one way or another..outspoken, entertaining and a terrific character.penalise him however you want he wont stop.he is that daring.simple as that.way to go kevin.

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 22:02 GMT

    Absolutely ridiculous fining him for that remark. Commentators say far worse about the players with no repercussions. Nick Knight was a very average cricketer and his commentating is not any better.

  • POSTED BY SurlyCynic on | May 23, 2012, 22:02 GMT

    KP is good at calling a spade a fork.

  • POSTED BY Ed_Lamb on | May 23, 2012, 21:59 GMT

    He was correctly fined last time for the outburst about being dropped but I find it amazing that he can be fined for expressing a personal opinion about Nick Knight. After all, the commentators and journalists are not averse to criticising the players regularly.

    Seems harsh so I trust the undisclosed amount is £1. Although whatever it is I can't believe the fine will make much of a dent in his recent IPL earnings!

  • POSTED BY PunchDrunkPunter on | May 23, 2012, 21:57 GMT

    Everyone is thinking what Pietersen said, but still Knight is harmless and was a good servant to English cricket, so doesn't really deserve a public hammering like that. BRING BACK BIG BAD BOB WILLIS!!!! He would sort KP out!

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  • POSTED BY PunchDrunkPunter on | May 23, 2012, 21:57 GMT

    Everyone is thinking what Pietersen said, but still Knight is harmless and was a good servant to English cricket, so doesn't really deserve a public hammering like that. BRING BACK BIG BAD BOB WILLIS!!!! He would sort KP out!

  • POSTED BY Ed_Lamb on | May 23, 2012, 21:59 GMT

    He was correctly fined last time for the outburst about being dropped but I find it amazing that he can be fined for expressing a personal opinion about Nick Knight. After all, the commentators and journalists are not averse to criticising the players regularly.

    Seems harsh so I trust the undisclosed amount is £1. Although whatever it is I can't believe the fine will make much of a dent in his recent IPL earnings!

  • POSTED BY SurlyCynic on | May 23, 2012, 22:02 GMT

    KP is good at calling a spade a fork.

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 22:02 GMT

    Absolutely ridiculous fining him for that remark. Commentators say far worse about the players with no repercussions. Nick Knight was a very average cricketer and his commentating is not any better.

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 22:05 GMT

    man i love this guy..always in the limelight one way or another..outspoken, entertaining and a terrific character.penalise him however you want he wont stop.he is that daring.simple as that.way to go kevin.

  • POSTED BY General_Craig on | May 23, 2012, 22:08 GMT

    Completely agree with Pietersen's opinion Nick Knight, the guy is dull as dishwater. ECB clearly doing everything to avoid upsetting the almighty Sky.

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 22:20 GMT

    players should be allowed to express their opinion

  • POSTED BY on | May 23, 2012, 22:26 GMT

    One day Pietersen might finally engage his brain before speaking but I'm not banking on it.

  • POSTED BY elsmallo on | May 23, 2012, 22:37 GMT

    This is pretty dreadful stuff. Knight's alright but he does make a lot of crazy comments behind the mike; it can be hard to work out what the ** he's on about sometimes. Pietersen, though, can be brainless sometimes. I'm sure it's annoying being slagged off by an ex player you probably don't have much time for, but KP will have his opportunities to settle these scores when he's retired. Still, it's all grist for the mill and whatnot...

  • POSTED BY Erebus26 on | May 23, 2012, 23:00 GMT

    To be fair KP was spot here. Nick Knight has got to be the smuggest commentator at Sky.