England v West Indies, 1st Test, Lord's, 4th day

I'm glad Broad's in my team - Swann

Andrew McGlashan at Lord's

May 20, 2012

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Stuart Broad claimed a few more landmarks with the ball, England v West Indies, 1st Test, Lord's, 4th day, May 20, 2012
Graeme Swann said Stuart Broad is a guy who will break record after record © Getty Images

Graeme Swann has backed Stuart Broad to break records after taking his match haul against West Indies to 11 wickets and becoming only the fourth player to score a hundred, take five in an innings and 10 in a match at Lord's. However, it is far from certain that Broad's career-best performances will secure England a victory after a day of resilience from West Indies' batsmen before two late strikes by Kemar Roach set pulses racing.

When Broad removed Darren Sammy, who played a key part in extending West Indies' lead to testing proportions, he became the first England bowler to take 10 on this ground since Ian Botham against New Zealand in 1978.

"Hats off to him he's on all three honours boards which is almost unique," Swann said. "He's going to be a guy who breaks record after record in his career and I'm just glad he's in my team. He admitted he's not been in the greatest of form for Nottinghamshire but he's a big match player and as soon as he got his first spell out of the way in this match he's bowled superbly."

However, it was Swann himself who claimed the wicket England most cherished when he finally trapped Shivnarine Chanderpaul lbw to end his 250-ball 91 which took his match occupation of the crease to 425 deliveries.

"It's always nice to get him out. It would have been nicer if he'd missed a sweep on 10 or 11 rather than 91," he said. "His partnership with [Marlon] Samuels showed if you bat with application on that pitch you become difficult to shift."

Application is something England will need plenty of on the final day after closing on 10 for 2 following the late dismissals of Andrew Strauss and nightwatchman Jimmy Anderson. During the winter they failed to chase 145 in Abu Dhabi, collapsing to 72 all out albeit on a very different surface, but Swann, always a glass-half-full cricketer, said the task was still well within hand.

"It's unfortunate to lose the skipper but it was always going to be a tricky 15 minutes batting in the gloom against a world-class bowler like Kemar Roach. Luckily we've got through relatively unscathed, we've got Trotty and Cooky at the crease so we'll very confident that they can see us through.

"We know the wicket is very good for batting, if anything it's better than the first two days. That tends to happen at Lord's. Hopefully the ball won't talk much like it didn't for us today. Once it gets to 30-35 overs old it seems to go a bit out of shape and not be very responsive. We beat the outside edge a lot but couldn't pick up the edges we did in the first innings. That was frustrating to say the least but I thought we stuck at our guns very well and to get a chase of less than 200 we're happy with."

Ottis Gibson, West Indies' coach, took great heart from his team's performance especially that of the batsmen who kept England in the field for most of the day. Regardless of the result on Monday he knows that the visitors have already surpassed many of the expectations surrounding them when they arrived.

"I haven't seen any fifth-day tickets so I'm not sure they expected it to go five days," he said. "We are coming back to make them fight for the rest of the runs. If we do well enough to win then great, we'll celebrate, but whatever happens when we get off that bus tomorrow we are coming here to fight. It will be a battle but we are up for that.

"If we can make some early inroads, like Trott and Kevin Pietersen who can take the game away from you, we've always felt we have an attack that can cause quite a few problems. It will be a good opportunity for them tomorrow."

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Posted by JG2704 on (May 23, 2012, 21:39 GMT)

@A_Vacant_Slip on (May 22 2012, 22:18 PM GMT) - Thanks bud. I just feel that it is a mark of character when a guy has a horror over like that and he takes it on the chin and comes back stronger. Broad strikes me as the sort of character who never shies away from anything. I'm sure any team what want a player of Broad's character in their side - regardless of how you judge him talentwise

Posted by JG2704 on (May 23, 2012, 21:35 GMT)

@Shan156 on (May 23 2012, 14:50 PM GMT) I always think it's best - whether it be by our fans or by others against us to just say Pak played some great cricket even if we (our batsmen were woeful).Obviously playing in different conditions has to at some point be answered. What I hate is when team's fans aren't magmanimous enough to take it on the chin and have to say wait until this ... That is one reason why I was so proud of our fans (as a whole) and the Pak fans (as a whole) in that we weren't saying wait until you get to Eng .... and Pak fans weren't gloating/sniping.Mutual respect

Posted by Shan156 on (May 23, 2012, 14:50 GMT)

@JG2704, I am not saying Pak. won't be successful away as they have been in the UAE. I am simply saying judgment should be reserved till they show results outside. Isn't that what us England fans are told every time by subcontinent fans? Same with Ajmal.

Posted by JG2704 on (May 23, 2012, 8:31 GMT)

@Shan156 on (May 23 2012, 04:54 AM GMT) tbh - in the main I'm not seeing too much from Pak fans. Even after they beat us , most refrained from the ugly gloating you get from others. I think Ajmal would perform elsewhere these days. It is unproven , but we can't just say Pak can only play at home until they play away.

Posted by zenboomerang on (May 23, 2012, 7:41 GMT)

You have to smile at the Broad whingers... Broad is currently only a little off Bothams bowling & batting stats yet Botham probably peaked as an allrounder at between 26-28 y.o. while I see Broad as just beginning to hit his straps with many years (8+) as a top level cricketer... Another interesting stat is that Bresnan currently has better batting & bowling average stats than Botham finished with - just shows what strength there is in this current England lower order...

Posted by Shan156 on (May 23, 2012, 4:54 GMT)

@JG2704, lol. BTW, I replied earlier to your message but for some reason, cricinfo chose not to publish it. Yes, you are right. Some Pak. fans were quite humble in victory but we do keep hearing how they are the best because they have stayed undefeated in a series for 2 years. However, in that period they have only played the Windies away (the series was drawn) and beaten SL and England in the UAE. Ajmal was impressive but shouldn't he perform everywhere in the world against all opposition before he is crowned the best spinner in the world, leave alone the best ever. They said that for Anderson and Swann, so surely Ajmal is no exception.

Posted by Meety on (May 23, 2012, 1:11 GMT)

@jmcilhinney - "...as I recall he looked fairly good in the last Ashes..." - its nit picking from me because there is not much to gloat about from the last Ashes but.... Broad averaged over 80 with a S/R over 200! @HumungousFungus - I agree, I thought he was way overrated, right up until the UAE series. I still think there are some question marks, but he is definately ticking the right boxes atm.

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (May 22, 2012, 22:18 GMT)

Oh! dear! I just checked this thread and yes @JG2704 - you are right, there is some terrible rubbish here about Broad 6 6's. The thing is, India boys (comedian) love to talk about this because it is all thay can hang on to. They forget that in 2011 Stuart Broad was made player of the series Vs India. No India player was in the running for that. So who had the last laugh, eh? PS Like your post - you are true enthusiast!

Posted by JG2704 on (May 22, 2012, 21:37 GMT)

@valvolux Broad will be gutted that such a balanced commentor has criticised him. Still , I think I heard that he'd moved up to 3 in the ICC rankings. I know it's not the same as having your seal of approval but at least it's some consolation

Posted by JG2704 on (May 21, 2012, 20:32 GMT)

@Shan156 - hello. Agree with practically all you say and I think the fact that he came back from the 6x6 Yuvraj over to do what he has done is a credit to him. He is a fiercely determined player and we are proud to have him. I'd probably say he is my favourite Eng player because of his character as much as his ability. One thing I will disagree with you on is "Pak. fans should stop blowing this trumpet". I think the Pak fans by and large have been very respectful and while praising their own side and celebrated their victory (which is fair enough) have not resorted to sniping/gloating etc. I think you'll find the majority of those are from another country

Posted by JG2704 on (May 21, 2012, 20:19 GMT)

@guptahitesh4u on (May 21 2012, 12:19 PM GMT) JA certainly started better and has bowled worse than he did in this test and got a 5 for. I'm sure Broad has bowled better than this before and only got half the wickets. Swings and roundabouts

Posted by JG2704 on (May 21, 2012, 20:12 GMT)

@Chithsabesh Sivasankar Bharadwaj on (May 21 2012, 12:28 PM GMT) What brutal thrashings? SA/Eng - the last 6 series have never been won by either side by more than a solitary test

Posted by Shan156 on (May 21, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

Some gold standard troll here about Broad getting hit for 6 6s. Seriously, Indian fans, how long are you going to go on about it? If anything, that made Broad a better bowler; so, in one way, it was good that it happened to him. A lesser player would have cracked after getting hit for 6 6s in an over at that early stage of his career but Broad came back strong to haunt that same opponent last year. Perhaps, you guys should look at his record against India last year. If he is a poor bowler, what would that make of your so-called stars (sans Dravid) who had no clue against him? Broad is already more successful in tests than Yuvraj. One bad over in a T20 doesn't make him a bad bowler. If you think he is poor, please name one Indian bowler who is any better than him. Zak, maybe, but the rest (Ishant, Praveen, Sreesanth, et al) are not good enough to even lace his boots.

Posted by jupiterlaw on (May 21, 2012, 13:46 GMT)

@RIZWAN SIDDIQUI don't get so carried away with your praise of Stuart Broad because WI are far from being what anyone would describe as a formidable batting lineup. In the English press they were described as a collection of "Waifs and strays". Broad was unable to get the wicket of the only person among then that was neither "waif nor "stray" and that was Chanderpaul. A bowler is far from being "a class act" when holding a collection so derisively described.You can't have it both ways.

Posted by Shan156 on (May 21, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

Some silly comments here. Just because England folded against spin for 72 chasing 144 in UAE doesn't mean that they will do that against every team in every condition. A spinner in Windies ranks would have definitely caused England trouble going in the 5th day in a tricky chase but doesn't mean that they wouldn't have achieved the target. For starters, the pitch is still a good one for batting - like most Lord's test over the last few years, it gets better for batting as the days progress. Pak. fans should stop blowing this trumpet - yes, Pakistan trounced England in UAE and Ajmal is a very good bowler but remember that we beat you 3-1 in our conditions, won ODI series and T20s both home and away. In addition, we have managed to beat Aus. in Aus. and draw against SA in SA. Till your team strings together a few wins away from home, you cannot truly claim to be a better team than us either.

Posted by Rally_Windies on (May 21, 2012, 13:12 GMT)


WI don't need a bowler like Ajmal .... WI has a few spinners who make Ajmal look like a part time bowler ...

what WI needs to do is pick 2 spinners on the team.... (and I don't mean 2 offies)

if the number 6 is a decent offie, WI needs to pick a leggie or left arm spinner ...

(and yes there are some top quality spinners available, who finnished that last 3 years with better regional records better than ALL 4 of the bwolers currently playing against England) ....

& FYI, this stupidness that WI batsmen cannot play spin is nonsense ... WI batsmen are bashing INdian spinners all over the place in the IPL... those same guys, like Smith and Russel, (and even Gayle) were kept in check and bambozled by WI spinners in WI 20/20 ..... and WI 4-day competition ...

Posted by HumungousFungus on (May 21, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

It is easy to look at Broad's career statistics and wonder what all of the fuss is about. It is sometimes equally easy to forget that he only started bowling seriously at age 15, and has basically had to learn how to bowl, and, to a degree, grow up, in international cricket, without any serious grounding in the county game beforehand. He has always been able to move the ball, and over the last year or so where he has been bowling a fuller length, batsmen are starting to nick balls they were previously missing. Swann's comments are reasonable: England's leading wicket taker, Botham, has 383 wickets. If he stays fit and productive, Broad will be past that (and probably 3000 runs as well) by age 30. At which point, I would expect our nay saying Indian and Australian friends, some of whom seem to be currently basing a career assessment on a one over tonking in a 2020 at age 19, to be as heartily fed up of him, and, hopefully, grudgingly respectful of him, as England were of Glenn McGrath.

Posted by ibbotsoni on (May 21, 2012, 12:38 GMT)

@yev. Yes, there are a lot of goaders making daft comments about how poor and overrated England are. Guess everyone loves to hate England. We are number 1 on merit and any aussies or Indians slaying us really haven't got a leg to stand on. 3-1 4-0 anybody?

Posted by   on (May 21, 2012, 12:28 GMT)

@Yevghenny before Australia South Africa come there. Remember the Brutal thrashings last time when South Africa came to England.

Posted by guptahitesh4u on (May 21, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

Though Broad has much more scalps in this test than any other bowler, to Me Anderson is the real hero. His figures do not justify the pressure he mounted on batsmen by continuously beating them. Equal credit should be given to Anderson.

Posted by Yevghenny on (May 21, 2012, 10:38 GMT)

I have to say England articles seem to attract some very bitter and bruised supporters of Australia and India - still struggling to sleep after the brutal thrashings this england side have handed these two no doubt. And I really do fear for Australia visiting next year, their geriatric and wet behind the ears batsmen are going to be in for a torrid time at the hands of this "average" bowling attack

Posted by valvolux on (May 21, 2012, 9:22 GMT)

broad is an improved bowler, but wow, he is so far from being what i would consider a class bowler. he had one good spell in the 09 ashes, but he was awfully lucky he wasnt dropped before that because he was getting pounded left right and centre and was the difference between england winning that series more easily. He was ordinary in the last ashes before getting injured - england dominated after tremlett came in. i'll rate him when he's not going at 4-5 runs an over, for at least 1 spell in every ashes test. So far he's done that in one spell in about 7 tests....which is pathetic really. even mitch johnson looked more threatening. at this rate - broad may very well hold the worst bowling record for someone who plays 100 test matches.

Posted by   on (May 21, 2012, 8:57 GMT)

@usaf_1975, Stuart Broad is a class act. He has proven that so many times. Well you saying that he is only avg bowler is something the me not agreed with See the stats and latest performance, he is the best almost from very angle.

He can bat too that's bit advantage for the team having him, agreed ?? He had conceded six sixes in a over but he took hatrick as well against same team by taking the wicket of the same batsman who hit him six sixes

Posted by WickyRoy.paklover on (May 21, 2012, 8:44 GMT)

Broad z easily d pick of bowlers 4 poms,great length he maintains

Posted by leftisbest on (May 21, 2012, 8:34 GMT)

@usaf_1975 West Indies do have a bowler like Ajmal, fortunately for England he is currently playing in the IPL.

Posted by JG2704 on (May 21, 2012, 8:33 GMT)

@rahulcricket007 on (May 21 2012, 01:32 AM GMT) At leas make your comms original. 2 of your fellow members have already beaten you to the punch on the 6x6 in an over. No need to parrot them. BTW does that not actually show even more SBs character that he bounced back stronger after that horror over?

Posted by JG2704 on (May 21, 2012, 8:30 GMT)

@Aussasinator on (May 20 2012, 19:32 PM GMT) I posted how uncanny it was that Shiv was starting to resemble RD in his wall like role at the crease.Maybe a big difference is that Eng were posting massive totals vs India and maybe other WI batsmen are chipping in more than their Indian counterparts but like with Dravid last year you do feel a huge sense of relief and confidence if/when you see the back of him

Posted by jmcilhinney on (May 21, 2012, 7:52 GMT)

@jonesy2 on (May 21 2012, 03:54 AM GMT), as I recall he looked fairly good in the last Ashes and there were plenty of others taking wickets at the time too. At least you've helped solve the mystery of why Pattinson has looked so good for Australia. Thanks for that.

Posted by satish619chandar on (May 21, 2012, 7:08 GMT)

Broad was good at first and now.. The so called Enforcer role did injustice to his reputation and almost took his career.. Good that he was allowed to switch back to his original lengths and rock again.. His transformation is one good reason for England's potent and world class bowling attack.. Hope he continues the form and stays injury free..

Posted by usaf_1975 on (May 21, 2012, 6:28 GMT)

WI need a bowler like saeed ajmal then england can't achive this 181. broad is average bowler who can perform good in england but oversease not the same case. sorry mr. sawn

Posted by dunger.bob on (May 21, 2012, 6:03 GMT)

There's no doubt in my mind that Broad is a quality player who seems to be maturing nicely. ... I thought he was a bit of a drama queen early on but we seem to be seeing less of that lately. .. Interesting comments about his pace. .. I don't think there is anything wrong with bowling in the mid 120's if that's the pace that suits the pitch best. Really good fast bowlers can swallow their pride and drop their pace deliberately if the situation demands it. If names like Akram and McGrath can do it regularly then it can't be too bad a thing. I'm not saying its a tactical decision in this case, could be he's suddenly gotten slow or picked up a niggle or something, I'm just saying it may have been a tactic and if thats true he should be applauded for following his instructions so carefully. .. England to win .. after an intense battle.

Posted by Marcio on (May 21, 2012, 3:55 GMT)

I have to confess I'm amazed he got any wickets. I saw quite a few hours of the WI innings and I didn't see a single wicket from him, and he looked really, really flat. Inocuous. I mean, the ball just wasn't carrying through to the keeper at all and he looked slow through the air. And I just checked out the cricinfo match commentary, and it shows half his deliveries were in the 120-130 km/hr range. That's about what I would have thought watching him bowl. And that's like Trent Copeland speed. But obviously he must have been doing something different when I wasn't watching.

Posted by jonesy2 on (May 21, 2012, 3:54 GMT)

who are these guys trying to kid? broad is an ordinary bowler at best. just happens to take wickets because there is no one else to do it

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (May 21, 2012, 3:32 GMT)

@Aussasinator, totally agree, the TMS guys read off a stat, WI's have only won 8 tests in the last 80. Gibson and Sammy seem to have got this team to gel, and they have improved thier performances, I think they were closing in on a win against India last year but the weather robbed them. They can pull a decent innings out of the hat, and did so against the Aussies a couple of times last year. They do need to sort out the running there could have been 2-3 run outs yesterday, as the calling was appauling. All in All I wouldnt begrudge a WI's win they deserve it for the way they fought back.

Posted by   on (May 21, 2012, 3:15 GMT)

and bowling england to a 4-0 whitewash.. oh come on people give credit where it is due.. after growing out of the brat that he was, he has become quite the cricketer..

Posted by Himad on (May 21, 2012, 1:56 GMT)

Every time I have seen Swan being optimistic about the "win" on the eve of the last day of the match, he was found licking his wounds the next night. I thought earlier that its still England's game to lose but after seeing Swan commenting again, I am really not sure now....Let's see if WI can prove me wrong tomorrow, I hope not. Go WI go...

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (May 21, 2012, 1:45 GMT)


Posted by rahulcricket007 on (May 21, 2012, 1:32 GMT)


Posted by Sinhaya on (May 21, 2012, 0:24 GMT)

@Aussasinator, fully agreed. Also, Windies tend to often do well the first 3 days but squander one entire session on the 4th day.

Posted by   on (May 20, 2012, 23:54 GMT)

oh yeah! records like getting hit for 6 sixes in an over

Posted by   on (May 20, 2012, 22:36 GMT)

Swanny's right!! broad did also break the T20 record for the most 6's in an over!!!

Posted by SNIFFLEATHER on (May 20, 2012, 21:56 GMT)

What a relief it is to have Kemar Roach in West Indian colours. A class bowler. Hopefully, promising debutant Shannon Gabriel can continue to develop and form a deadly new ball pairing with Roach. Gabriel's body should hold up much better than Edwards or Taylors' ever did, which should at least allow the Windies to field the same strike bowlers for a while. I remember Lara's comment after the test match against Sri Lanka when Edwards and Taylor burst onto the scene a few years back, he said "I'd like to see these two young guys eat a few steaks..." how true it has been proven. Never fit and never strong enough, a weakness that has no place within the demands of the modern schedule. I saw Edwards break Thorpe's hand with a 97mph brute, and Taylor bowl in excess of 90mph plenty of times...just not consistently. Genuine pace will ALWAYS take wickets. Hopefully the young guys in the current set up can stay fit, stay strong, and continue to terrorise batsmen, as all Windies quicks should!

Posted by SpartaArmy on (May 20, 2012, 20:52 GMT)

WI team has performed far better than the start studded Indian team which failed miserably in each and every innings.

Posted by AdrianVanDenStael on (May 20, 2012, 20:22 GMT)

Since the euphoria of beating India 4-0 last year, England have had a lot of disappointments, yet if they were not to win this match tomorrow - against underprepared opponents playing in unfamiliar conditions, beaten by the Lions last week, weakened by absences, and with only one test victory in the last three and a half years against any opponent other than Bangladesh, and one away test victory in the last twelve years against any opponent other than Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, whom they led by 155 on first innings and had 65-4 in the second innings - that would probably constitute the biggest such disappointment.

Posted by JG2704 on (May 20, 2012, 20:15 GMT)

I'm also extremely pleased to have Broad in the England side

Posted by hhillbumper on (May 20, 2012, 19:57 GMT)

Broad has certainly moved up a tack since that series against India.Something like 50 wickets in the last year at 21.Bowled exceptionally well in UAE and was injured in Sri Lanka.I would reckon he is going to cause issues all this year home and away to the other batsmen.The rest of the bowling today though could do with sharpening up.

Posted by Aussasinator on (May 20, 2012, 19:32 GMT)

WI are actually a win worthy team. Both against Australia and here too, their batting has got into an over defensive mode and put them in a perennial catch up state. If you defend all the time, you cant win a war ( or a test match) - quote from the film Seven Samurai. The top order has to unshackle itself out of its tentative state. even if it fails, the result would be the same anyway. Chanderpaul's knocks remind me of Rahul Dravids knocks against England very recently. Dravid got all the centuries for himself but India never won a single match. Yet the accolades flowed to Dravid, in sharp contrast to what a Sachin may have gone through in a similar situation.

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