South Africa v West Indies, Champions Trophy, Group B, Cardiff June 14, 2013

No blame on Pollard after 'sad end' - Bravo

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West Indies captain Dwayne Bravo wished there had been an extra ball to prevent what he called a "sad end" to a thrilling match which led to his team being eliminated from the Champions Trophy on net run-rate.

Before Ryan McLaren started what turned out to be the final over, West Indies were four runs ahead of the par score, which was 186 for 5 after 26 overs. After just one ball, which witnessed Kieron Pollard caught brilliantly at wide third man by Dale Steyn, the equation had changed in South Africa's favour as the par scores were tied and West Indies had played their delivery of the tournament.

Bravo along with his predecessor Darren Sammy were left stranded in the wet as the South Africans vanished within a moment when the umpires decided the rain was too heavy.

When Steve Davis and Rod Tucker decided to call off the match it was roughly 20 minutes after the official closing time of 7.22 pm which accounted for the extra hour allocated in the playing conditions. In fact, it is understood that Andy Pycroft, the match referee, had thought hard about imposing a penalty on South Africa, who it turns out were slightly behind the over rate. But the match officials had been lenient to both teams while allowing as many allowances as they could to extend the game despite the late drizzle which was making things difficult for everyone.

In the end Bravo made it clear he was not blaming the umpires. "I must be honest that I am disappointed with the way the game ended," he said. "But I am not disappointed at what the umpires did - they had a job do and do to the best of their abilities. We as players have no control over any decision they make.

"I think it would have been fair to both teams and to the fans if that extra ball had been bowled or something like that. It was very difficult for both teams," Bravo said. "It was a sad end to what would have been a fantastic game. I know the fans would have loved to see the finish. But that is how it goes some time."

Bravo also gave his backing to Pollard despite the game-changing dismissal. "Why should we blame him? His innings along with Marlon Samuels allowed us to get where we were at that point of time. Kieron did his part. Unfortunately he got out. The game was still in our hands. Kieron did his part. Sammy was to bat, Myself was to bat. Narine was to bat. It was a great run chase."

Minutes before the media conference, Bravo had walked into the indoor school for the after match presentation with his laces untied. You could see him try hard not to let his emotions show too much and he tried even harder to put on a smile as the South African pair of AB de Villiers and Colin Ingram gave him man hugs while passing their commiserations.

The day before the match Bravo said the onus was on South Africa, who had succumbed to pressure previously in big matches, thereby earning the unwanted moniker of chokers. Now, 24 hours later, Bravo was trying hard not to choke himself.

As disconsolate as he was, Bravo said despite a rain-filled Friday, both teams had managed to stir up a lot of excitement. Despite a stiff target he always had the belief in his batsmen to surmount the challenge.

"South Africa batted very well, and my guys, the way how we went out there and the run chase, we always thought that 230-odd on a small ground with a fast outfield [was gettable] and we always backed ourselves actually to get right back into the game. Up until the last ‑‑ up to when Kieron got out, we were right there within striking range.

"So, I'm disappointed we didn't go all the way, but I must say I give credit to all my guys. They played very well. We should be proud of ourselves but we have struggled in this tournament, and we are just looking forward to building some momentum and trying to build a stronger one‑day team."

Although the Duckworth-Lewis par score was being displayed after every over on the big screen, teams have fumbled at times with working out exactly where they need to be. Considering the power hitters present in their lower order, West Indies would have remained confident of chasing down any target.

"It's always good to be ahead," Bravo said. "We were right within range, one run behind or something like that. Kieron got out at a crucial time, but as I said, it's a great opportunity for us to learn from this situation.

"There is no reason for us to actually blame or point fingers at anyone. We should be proud of the way how we went about the short chase, but unfortunately we did not make it to the next round, but these things can actually make us stronger as a team."

Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Boxilla on June 17, 2013, 12:08 GMT

    I have to add my comments here. I attended both the WI v Pak and WI v India matches and the DL score was clearly indicated on the scoreboard BALL BY BALL and at the end of each over, so I see no reason or excuse as to why the WIndies lost this match, even with the rain. Their whole strategy of going about the run chase was wrong. THey should have kept their eyes on the DL score from ball 1 and made sure they were either par or just ahead after each over. Obviously I realise this is not always possible especially with the likes of Steyn bowling, but they let the run chase slip so far behind they then had to crash out the runs (and only after Sarwan ran on with a message!), lost wickets in the panic to get the runs back at par, and then eventually lost the match by effetively 1 run. Even Mikey Holding on commentary said that the didn't need to worry about DL at first as they would be able to catch up and that they should have faith in the weather! In summer in England!? Wrong Mikey!

  • on June 16, 2013, 19:57 GMT

    As a past cricketer and a current keen obsever of cricket, I am very proud of criketerers like Bravo who represent the game with HONOUR and their country equally well have to say. Sad no doubt that WI are OUT, but they did not die in VAIN. Vijay Krishnan Los Angeles

  • CDUP on June 16, 2013, 10:49 GMT

    Bravo is a commendable captain - a true ambassador for cricket as the gentleman's sport.

  • on June 16, 2013, 6:52 GMT

    All these years RSA faced the wrath of d/l method. But finally its time to turn around the fortunes. People are blaming windies for being unlucky. Even RSA bowlers had no clue with the wet ball and those conditions. They bowled really well up until the 15th over. But once it was drizzling down consistently, the ball became wet and all of a sudden windies batsmen pounced on them like cheetahs. All in all a fair effort. having said all this, the rain and toss are gonne be a huge factor in semis and final because of the d/l method. This method is totally unfair for teams batting first and must be scrapped ASAP! #ICC you listening?

  • on June 15, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    Real dumb cricket by Pollard ....should've had the presence of mind to know where West Indies should've been on D/L....

  • on June 15, 2013, 12:29 GMT

    well played...bravo

  • bzzd on June 15, 2013, 11:25 GMT

    Very classy from Bravo. This was a very hard way for the game to end - such a good game. I have always supported SA but Windies are my #2 team and I feel for them. Playing tournaments like these in England in always problematic with the weather factor. The ICC should look at some way of incorporating spare days to allow for the impact of weather to be minimised. Obviously the all powerful media need to be involved. Can you imagine if this had been the final game?

  • AC.Radix on June 15, 2013, 11:11 GMT

    can't blame John Dyson for this one ...

  • SNIFFLEATHER on June 15, 2013, 9:11 GMT

    West Indian players hate playing in these conditions. The damp, cool English weather was never going to be a comfortable environment for them, so I didn't expect a memorable tournament. Still, some of the squad need to take a look at themselves - and not for the first time. Moving forward, it is time to forget about guys like Sarwan, Fidel Edwards and Rampaul. They never reached the heights expected of them in the earlier stages of their careers, and it is unlikely that Marlon Samuelsesque late blooming will be evident with these three. Time to blood some younger bowlers, namely Delorn Johnson, Jason Holder and Miguel Cummins. The cupboards are far from bare, so don't waste good stock selectors - lets see what these guys can do (Roach needs support).

  • spinkingKK on June 15, 2013, 8:14 GMT

    As I said in another posting, D/L rule should only apply to the completed overs. You can't just change the target in retrospection. This is complete injustice. Pollard had to go for the target to win the match. Even if he knew that his team would be behind if he got out on that ball, he would have still gone for it. Because, he can't foresee the game getting abandoned after that ball. This is like two teams playing each other, thinking they are ahead and after the match, someone decides who won.

  • Boxilla on June 17, 2013, 12:08 GMT

    I have to add my comments here. I attended both the WI v Pak and WI v India matches and the DL score was clearly indicated on the scoreboard BALL BY BALL and at the end of each over, so I see no reason or excuse as to why the WIndies lost this match, even with the rain. Their whole strategy of going about the run chase was wrong. THey should have kept their eyes on the DL score from ball 1 and made sure they were either par or just ahead after each over. Obviously I realise this is not always possible especially with the likes of Steyn bowling, but they let the run chase slip so far behind they then had to crash out the runs (and only after Sarwan ran on with a message!), lost wickets in the panic to get the runs back at par, and then eventually lost the match by effetively 1 run. Even Mikey Holding on commentary said that the didn't need to worry about DL at first as they would be able to catch up and that they should have faith in the weather! In summer in England!? Wrong Mikey!

  • on June 16, 2013, 19:57 GMT

    As a past cricketer and a current keen obsever of cricket, I am very proud of criketerers like Bravo who represent the game with HONOUR and their country equally well have to say. Sad no doubt that WI are OUT, but they did not die in VAIN. Vijay Krishnan Los Angeles

  • CDUP on June 16, 2013, 10:49 GMT

    Bravo is a commendable captain - a true ambassador for cricket as the gentleman's sport.

  • on June 16, 2013, 6:52 GMT

    All these years RSA faced the wrath of d/l method. But finally its time to turn around the fortunes. People are blaming windies for being unlucky. Even RSA bowlers had no clue with the wet ball and those conditions. They bowled really well up until the 15th over. But once it was drizzling down consistently, the ball became wet and all of a sudden windies batsmen pounced on them like cheetahs. All in all a fair effort. having said all this, the rain and toss are gonne be a huge factor in semis and final because of the d/l method. This method is totally unfair for teams batting first and must be scrapped ASAP! #ICC you listening?

  • on June 15, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    Real dumb cricket by Pollard ....should've had the presence of mind to know where West Indies should've been on D/L....

  • on June 15, 2013, 12:29 GMT

    well played...bravo

  • bzzd on June 15, 2013, 11:25 GMT

    Very classy from Bravo. This was a very hard way for the game to end - such a good game. I have always supported SA but Windies are my #2 team and I feel for them. Playing tournaments like these in England in always problematic with the weather factor. The ICC should look at some way of incorporating spare days to allow for the impact of weather to be minimised. Obviously the all powerful media need to be involved. Can you imagine if this had been the final game?

  • AC.Radix on June 15, 2013, 11:11 GMT

    can't blame John Dyson for this one ...

  • SNIFFLEATHER on June 15, 2013, 9:11 GMT

    West Indian players hate playing in these conditions. The damp, cool English weather was never going to be a comfortable environment for them, so I didn't expect a memorable tournament. Still, some of the squad need to take a look at themselves - and not for the first time. Moving forward, it is time to forget about guys like Sarwan, Fidel Edwards and Rampaul. They never reached the heights expected of them in the earlier stages of their careers, and it is unlikely that Marlon Samuelsesque late blooming will be evident with these three. Time to blood some younger bowlers, namely Delorn Johnson, Jason Holder and Miguel Cummins. The cupboards are far from bare, so don't waste good stock selectors - lets see what these guys can do (Roach needs support).

  • spinkingKK on June 15, 2013, 8:14 GMT

    As I said in another posting, D/L rule should only apply to the completed overs. You can't just change the target in retrospection. This is complete injustice. Pollard had to go for the target to win the match. Even if he knew that his team would be behind if he got out on that ball, he would have still gone for it. Because, he can't foresee the game getting abandoned after that ball. This is like two teams playing each other, thinking they are ahead and after the match, someone decides who won.

  • on June 15, 2013, 8:03 GMT

    Give SA a break!. They have had so many occassions where luck and weather had broken their back.For once lady luck smiled!

  • on June 15, 2013, 7:49 GMT

    Feel sad for the WINDIES :( They deserved to go on and win the tournament!

  • Bowlersholding on June 15, 2013, 7:30 GMT

    @Igthorn Well said. If the roles had been reversed just think of the comments that would have been made. SA showed they have fight - when you get yourself into position, you will win some.

  • on June 15, 2013, 6:55 GMT

    one of the worst icc tournament wr rain plays a major role

  • BrianCharlesVivek on June 15, 2013, 6:35 GMT

    Unfortunate for West Indies, despite a strong comeback to tie the match. However teh choker comment was unneccessary before that match. In my opinion,that cost them the match.

  • devilx on June 15, 2013, 6:32 GMT

    Isn't it time that the scorers start displaying the D/L target instead of the par score on the scoreboard? Makes it clear for everyone on the field.

  • on June 15, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    I'm a South African supporter and while I'm glad we got through this time I am very disappointed at the way it happened. The West Indies are a great team to watch and deserve better than to exit the competition in these circumstances.

  • zennyzennzen on June 15, 2013, 6:06 GMT

    Very gracious of Bravo indeed! What an awesome match despite the unfortunate ending... WI bats deep and looked like they'd make it despite the loss of Pollards wicket. For once, SA will be thanking the heavens for the rain.

  • on June 15, 2013, 6:03 GMT

    @NP_NY: Luckily it is worth absolutely nothing! ;) South Africa have been on the losing end of rules and rain on many occasion so, perhaps cruelly, us fans have little sympathy for the West Indies.

  • Igthorn on June 15, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    I'm not sure that 'in the eyes of neutral fans' WI won - though they were doing well, part of their success was influenced by the bowling team having to bowl with a wet and slippery ball - had that not been the case, the WI team may not have gotten so close - look at their performance in the earlier, drier part of the game.

  • on June 15, 2013, 5:14 GMT

    Well you win some you lose some. SF have always been unlucky in such situations in the past. Change of fortunes may finally win them a major tournament trophy. Commiserations WI, all the best SF for business end of the tournament.

  • AB_DeVilliers on June 15, 2013, 5:09 GMT

    Must say that Bravo and his team have been exceptionally gracious. That has to be commended and it bodes well for the future of this team. As someone said below, Bravo seems like a good human being and good things come to good people. On the game, I feel that at that very point after 26.1 overs, the game was evenly matched so a tie was a fair reflection. The shortened game benefitted WI, but lady lucky smiles on SA (for the first time ever :). Kudos to both teams!

  • NP_NY on June 15, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    For whatever it is worth, in the eyes of most neutral fans around the world, the WI won.

  • on June 15, 2013, 4:15 GMT

    Well South Africa could not have won this any other way, in a fair game West Indies would have whipped them home.

  • on June 15, 2013, 4:14 GMT

    Such a wonderfull human ,Bravo ! All the best for future series .WI is a great team with great players,but there is no single responsible standing batsman who sees them go through(like Dhoni or Misbah )

  • DILEEPMJOHN on June 15, 2013, 3:49 GMT

    Bad luck for West Indies. Can't blame pollard. He was playing for a 31 over match.When he was facing that ball it was not raining.In 2 minutes it rained heavy enough to stop play.Its bad luck. If at all some one want to blame something for their exit, it should be their poor over rate in bowling. Had they completed bowling the 31 overs in 1st innings, west indies would have batted close to 30 overs by the time rain comes heavily and would have sneaked through to semis

  • dinesh_chy on June 15, 2013, 3:49 GMT

    its a very bad end of important match of very good teams, in this type of tournament there should be a reserve day.. feel the condition of ground and west indies players ( temperature so cold opposite to west indies conditions) they played a good game but the end was opposite side..... WELL PLAYED WEST INDIES....

  • on June 15, 2013, 3:35 GMT

    Its unfortunate end for the match. SA was on the receiving end so far, Its good for them...

  • vish2020 on June 15, 2013, 3:12 GMT

    DL method should be the one more scrutinized then DRS. I never agree with DL method. in this game bravo and sammy would have been enough to win the game. In no way, without rain this could have been a WI lose.

  • on June 15, 2013, 1:48 GMT

    Very very unfortunate. A very sad end to a great match. A friend was supporting West Indies and I was supporting SA just to make it interesting and cheering both wickets and rus but was very dissatisfied that the match between two champion teams ended this way. It is simply not fair to the spirit of the two teams.

  • IndianEagle on June 15, 2013, 1:18 GMT

    WELL SAID BRAVO,disappointed the way match ends, surely would have been great had they played full overs. Match was even poised after pollard's wicket but little more for WI than SA. First time rain favours SA.

  • soorajiyer on June 15, 2013, 1:11 GMT

    Was a very good game and absolutely gutted for the Windies :(

  • TRAM on June 15, 2013, 1:11 GMT

    Feel bad for WI. No one can blame any batsman for getting out, however great a batsman is. And how can Pollard or any one predict exactly when the rain would start heavy. (it was drizzling slightly all the time anyway). If at all, I would point at top order batsmen of WI to have played faster from the start. Instead of coming from behind, they could have kept themselves ahead (of D/L par score) all the time.

  • NCassie on June 15, 2013, 0:47 GMT

    Please no blaming game, the players have to accept this exit from tournament and move on...Great talent but effort and consistency is what contributed to their own failure...All the best going forward guys...The CPL awaits the Caribbean stars to show the world the best tournament ever to be held in the Caribbean... Go Windies!!!

  • on June 15, 2013, 0:44 GMT

    I'm a disappointed Windies fan, but I saw this coming. Dwayne brace yourself son, because there will be many more sad ends, it has actually just began for you. The biggest mistake for me today was allowing Darren Bravo to come in at the time he did, that was outright wrong, who does that in such a crucial game? Why put your so called power hitters under pressure? This is typical of West Indies, from the on set you guys should have known due to weather and the status of the game there may be changes to the batting lineup. I would have definitively sent in Sammy before Dwayne today keeping in mind D/L. And to think that the BIG Names would show up when it matters, for all those who were calling the Gayle's and Sarwarn's and Pollard's what difference do they make? Windies have a bunch of BIG name cricketers who don't show up at crucial times, yet they are considered senior. If this was a Darren Sammy led team without these guys I would accept this result but this team has no excuse.:(

  • on June 15, 2013, 0:11 GMT

    If SA were shown to have had an abnormally slow over rate that really does make for a moral dilema.

    Though the West Indies hardly raced through the 31 overs of the SA innings so I guess they were partly to blame.

    Surely the ICC needs to update the rules and reduce the 30 minute half-time to 15 minutes in case of rain, and punish any kind of a slow over rate in one day matches with a run penalty. Both of those suggestions would have given us a 'fairer' result today.

  • on June 15, 2013, 0:02 GMT

    hahaha!! i see the umpire did not want to impose a penalty on south africa but i suppose if it was the reverse then windies would have been under the gun. Ironic? Perhaps. But when u look at the way how ramdin was handled....

  • on June 14, 2013, 23:41 GMT

    Dwane you are a genius, you will be another most successful captain in world cricket, who knows you can win the Worldcup 2015 my best wishes, I am CSK fan so I am happy to support a good cricket no matter who plays that

  • on June 14, 2013, 23:37 GMT

    I am always taken aback when I see a result for a one-day international stated in terms that suggest wickets matter.

    "Indian won by eight wickets" may suggest their batting strength but in a one -day international the result should be stated "India won with so many balls or overs to spare."

    The rules should not be bent to make wickets lost a factor. I would accept a South African victory if it could be stated that SA won because they had scored more runs than West Indies after 26.1 overs. The rules should not have permitted West Indies to be penalised because Pollard's wicket fell.

  • on June 14, 2013, 23:11 GMT

    Why in the world they have 50 over tournament in England. As far as i can remember, there will be atleast one match in a tourney where there is a stoppage of play. Of course, one credit we can give them is that the patches are rarely substandard and the outfields are beautiful. But good , put a roof over the stadiums!!!!!

  • Sportius on June 14, 2013, 22:05 GMT

    I was very impressed by the way his predecessor Darren Sammy handled the players and brought the bonding and team spirit back to the West Indies team. I am glad to see Bravo has taken it forward from where Sammy left it . Well played West indies. That is the way it goes sometimes . Hard luck

  • on June 14, 2013, 22:01 GMT

    that means he wants to put the blame on Pollard,,game of words :)

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  • on June 14, 2013, 22:01 GMT

    that means he wants to put the blame on Pollard,,game of words :)

  • Sportius on June 14, 2013, 22:05 GMT

    I was very impressed by the way his predecessor Darren Sammy handled the players and brought the bonding and team spirit back to the West Indies team. I am glad to see Bravo has taken it forward from where Sammy left it . Well played West indies. That is the way it goes sometimes . Hard luck

  • on June 14, 2013, 23:11 GMT

    Why in the world they have 50 over tournament in England. As far as i can remember, there will be atleast one match in a tourney where there is a stoppage of play. Of course, one credit we can give them is that the patches are rarely substandard and the outfields are beautiful. But good , put a roof over the stadiums!!!!!

  • on June 14, 2013, 23:37 GMT

    I am always taken aback when I see a result for a one-day international stated in terms that suggest wickets matter.

    "Indian won by eight wickets" may suggest their batting strength but in a one -day international the result should be stated "India won with so many balls or overs to spare."

    The rules should not be bent to make wickets lost a factor. I would accept a South African victory if it could be stated that SA won because they had scored more runs than West Indies after 26.1 overs. The rules should not have permitted West Indies to be penalised because Pollard's wicket fell.

  • on June 14, 2013, 23:41 GMT

    Dwane you are a genius, you will be another most successful captain in world cricket, who knows you can win the Worldcup 2015 my best wishes, I am CSK fan so I am happy to support a good cricket no matter who plays that

  • on June 15, 2013, 0:02 GMT

    hahaha!! i see the umpire did not want to impose a penalty on south africa but i suppose if it was the reverse then windies would have been under the gun. Ironic? Perhaps. But when u look at the way how ramdin was handled....

  • on June 15, 2013, 0:11 GMT

    If SA were shown to have had an abnormally slow over rate that really does make for a moral dilema.

    Though the West Indies hardly raced through the 31 overs of the SA innings so I guess they were partly to blame.

    Surely the ICC needs to update the rules and reduce the 30 minute half-time to 15 minutes in case of rain, and punish any kind of a slow over rate in one day matches with a run penalty. Both of those suggestions would have given us a 'fairer' result today.

  • on June 15, 2013, 0:44 GMT

    I'm a disappointed Windies fan, but I saw this coming. Dwayne brace yourself son, because there will be many more sad ends, it has actually just began for you. The biggest mistake for me today was allowing Darren Bravo to come in at the time he did, that was outright wrong, who does that in such a crucial game? Why put your so called power hitters under pressure? This is typical of West Indies, from the on set you guys should have known due to weather and the status of the game there may be changes to the batting lineup. I would have definitively sent in Sammy before Dwayne today keeping in mind D/L. And to think that the BIG Names would show up when it matters, for all those who were calling the Gayle's and Sarwarn's and Pollard's what difference do they make? Windies have a bunch of BIG name cricketers who don't show up at crucial times, yet they are considered senior. If this was a Darren Sammy led team without these guys I would accept this result but this team has no excuse.:(

  • NCassie on June 15, 2013, 0:47 GMT

    Please no blaming game, the players have to accept this exit from tournament and move on...Great talent but effort and consistency is what contributed to their own failure...All the best going forward guys...The CPL awaits the Caribbean stars to show the world the best tournament ever to be held in the Caribbean... Go Windies!!!

  • TRAM on June 15, 2013, 1:11 GMT

    Feel bad for WI. No one can blame any batsman for getting out, however great a batsman is. And how can Pollard or any one predict exactly when the rain would start heavy. (it was drizzling slightly all the time anyway). If at all, I would point at top order batsmen of WI to have played faster from the start. Instead of coming from behind, they could have kept themselves ahead (of D/L par score) all the time.