India news October 13, 2009

'We're expecting too much from Ishant' - Prasad

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Venkatesh Prasad, India's bowling coach, has said it is unfair to expect too much from fast bowler Ishant Sharma while he remains relatively new to the international scene.

Ishant burst into prominence with a memorable Test series in Australia in 2007-08 but has struggled to find his lengths in one-day cricket in the last year. He averaged 31.48 and picked up 27 wickets in his first 20 ODIs. In 13 games in 2009, he has picked up 19 wickets at 31.42. The economy rate, though, has shot up from 5.34 to 6.19.

"People are expecting too much too early," Prasad told the Daily News & Analysis. "To become one of the best, you need about 8000 to 10,000 hours of practice in your career. That amount of practice will mean eight to 10 years. In tennis someone who is good at 21 would have started playing at 11.

"Usually we spot talent in cricket at 19 and by then that cricketer would have played for only three to four years. Ishant is an exciting talent but he is just 21. I started playing for India when I was 24. When you have played five years of domestic cricket you are more mature. We shouldn't judge Ishant too early. We need to give him a lot of time. We expect too much from somebody with too little international experience. We are expecting too much from those who are just 20-21."

Prasad said Ishant's drop in form could be because of a lack in confidence. "We go gaga and when someone is doing well and then when he has a bad patch we say he has lost this and lost that. We also need to open our eyes to the fact that everything favours the batsmen these days. There has been too much pressure on him and expectations from every quarter." Former India fast bowler Javagal Srinath also said the criticisms could hurt Ishant's confidence but dismissed the idea that he had to cut down his one-day load to improve.

Zaheer Khan's absence due to injury has weakened India's pace attack but Prasad said this was an opportunity for the other bowlers to step up. "Ashish Nehra has been impressive in his comeback. What has helped him is his domestic experience. The others like RP Singh, Ishant and Munaf. I think they have all got what it takes to win matches."

Some experts have commented on the drop in pace of young Indian fast bowlers after a season but Prasad said he had not advised his charges to do so. "There was never a single moment in my two-and-a-half years with the Indian team when I told them to drop pace. I tell them to be consistent. If there is some sort of a technical flaw in their performance that is where I come in and I handle the technical part."

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  • Harshalawyer on October 14, 2009, 11:47 GMT

    Venkatesh Prasad has said "To become one of the best bowlers, you need about 8000 to 10,000 hours of practice in your career. That amount of practice will mean eight to 10 years". It means Prasad will remain a coach for the next 8 to 10 years.))))

  • Harshalawyer on October 14, 2009, 11:40 GMT

    Venkatesh Prasad, India's bowling coach, has said it is unfair to expect too much from fast bowler Ishant Sharma .He is right. With his(Venkatesh Prasad) coaching it is unfair to expect too much from Ishant Sharma.

  • howizzat on October 14, 2009, 11:30 GMT

    BY THE WAY, We dont have a bowling coach who can teach the youngsters to bowl rising deleveries. We have a batting coach who cannot teach the younger lot how to face the rising deleveries. And our fielding is becoming bads to worse dispite of the best fielders of their era, Kirsten and Robin are on the job. Then how we can aspire to be winning and beocme Numero Uno?

  • arup_g on October 14, 2009, 9:56 GMT

    Some people haven't a clue about cricket and fast bowling. Firstly whoever has dissed Prashad, are wrong, because he has done wonders for the Indian bowling. He has developed Zaheer into a world class bowler, Sharma into a good young talent, and the likes of Munaf, Sreesanth, Pathan, RP Singh, Praveen Kumar and Nehra all on the sidelines. Ishant just needs to concentrate on cricket and not worry so much about all these money aspects in the game such as IPL. I think if he cuts down the amount he plays he would be a better bowler. This year he has played IPL, World T20, Champions Trophy as well as tests vs Australia, NZ and so on. Give the guy a break and he'll come back better. He is only 21!

  • Mr.Cricket1807 on October 14, 2009, 9:26 GMT

    Bowling the bowl in the right areas at least 3-4 times out of 6 in an over is not expecting too much Mr. Prasad. If that is too much then may be the selection criteria for the Indian Cricket Team is wrong. What our glorious bowlers do is that bowl short and wide at least 3-4 times in an over. I guess they are allowed to do so as they are all young and will learn after 5-6 years of international cricket. May be we should play only after that much time then?

  • Rajit on October 14, 2009, 7:54 GMT

    First things first..why on earth does Indian Team have Prasad as a bowling coach? He himself was nothing more than a fast leg cutter bowler...BCCI needs to show him the door and hire someone else as a bowling coach... someone like F Devilliers,Allan Donald etc or from the Indian lot...even Manoj Prabhakar...he was not quick but was street smart cricketer..

  • raj_chakkat on October 14, 2009, 4:02 GMT

    the problem here is pace only. just need to check the average pace of ishant when he was in the first season and now in this season. either our fast bowlers are cutting down the pace deliberately to prolong their career at the expense of our country' win OR they or our coach dont know which muscles in our body contribute to the pace of a bowler and train on them.the reason i am telling this because in the case of ishant we can see that he has filled up a little....but still his pace has gone down...that means he did not work on those muscles which contribute to the pace of the bowler......

  • remember123 on October 14, 2009, 2:04 GMT

    do not agree on the excuses given! Here are my two cents worth 1) Focus on bowling. I am tired of reading about your views on issues outside of bowling. Leave the comments on other issues to senior players. 2) Focus on what is important- you were on the news ( before bombing out in the matches) wanting to bowl 100 miles per hour balls. What we want is you bowling on a tight length and line even if your speed is not up to par. Cut out your no balls and wides which will add further distraction to your bowling. When you can bowl proper length and line consistently, increase your speed. 3) Avoid putting him on pressure situations. At least two matches were lost recently thanks to erratic bowling during critical overs. He needs to mature more. 4) work on fielding and batting ( improved recently) too. We need all rounders.

  • on_the_level on October 13, 2009, 20:58 GMT

    Ishant's wrist points to fine leg, rather than at the stumps at delivery. Rectify that, Mr Prasad, and he'll be bowling at 145kph, along with bounce generated by wrist-snap.

  • greathief911 on October 13, 2009, 19:50 GMT

    i have never seen prsad himself being a really good bowler himself. ya he did get 5 wickets hauls only a few times but that said he is not deserving to be a bowling coach he was by no means a really good bowler himself what does bcci expect froom him. bcci needs to change our bowling coach to wasim akram or javagal srinath or someone similarly successful please.

  • Harshalawyer on October 14, 2009, 11:47 GMT

    Venkatesh Prasad has said "To become one of the best bowlers, you need about 8000 to 10,000 hours of practice in your career. That amount of practice will mean eight to 10 years". It means Prasad will remain a coach for the next 8 to 10 years.))))

  • Harshalawyer on October 14, 2009, 11:40 GMT

    Venkatesh Prasad, India's bowling coach, has said it is unfair to expect too much from fast bowler Ishant Sharma .He is right. With his(Venkatesh Prasad) coaching it is unfair to expect too much from Ishant Sharma.

  • howizzat on October 14, 2009, 11:30 GMT

    BY THE WAY, We dont have a bowling coach who can teach the youngsters to bowl rising deleveries. We have a batting coach who cannot teach the younger lot how to face the rising deleveries. And our fielding is becoming bads to worse dispite of the best fielders of their era, Kirsten and Robin are on the job. Then how we can aspire to be winning and beocme Numero Uno?

  • arup_g on October 14, 2009, 9:56 GMT

    Some people haven't a clue about cricket and fast bowling. Firstly whoever has dissed Prashad, are wrong, because he has done wonders for the Indian bowling. He has developed Zaheer into a world class bowler, Sharma into a good young talent, and the likes of Munaf, Sreesanth, Pathan, RP Singh, Praveen Kumar and Nehra all on the sidelines. Ishant just needs to concentrate on cricket and not worry so much about all these money aspects in the game such as IPL. I think if he cuts down the amount he plays he would be a better bowler. This year he has played IPL, World T20, Champions Trophy as well as tests vs Australia, NZ and so on. Give the guy a break and he'll come back better. He is only 21!

  • Mr.Cricket1807 on October 14, 2009, 9:26 GMT

    Bowling the bowl in the right areas at least 3-4 times out of 6 in an over is not expecting too much Mr. Prasad. If that is too much then may be the selection criteria for the Indian Cricket Team is wrong. What our glorious bowlers do is that bowl short and wide at least 3-4 times in an over. I guess they are allowed to do so as they are all young and will learn after 5-6 years of international cricket. May be we should play only after that much time then?

  • Rajit on October 14, 2009, 7:54 GMT

    First things first..why on earth does Indian Team have Prasad as a bowling coach? He himself was nothing more than a fast leg cutter bowler...BCCI needs to show him the door and hire someone else as a bowling coach... someone like F Devilliers,Allan Donald etc or from the Indian lot...even Manoj Prabhakar...he was not quick but was street smart cricketer..

  • raj_chakkat on October 14, 2009, 4:02 GMT

    the problem here is pace only. just need to check the average pace of ishant when he was in the first season and now in this season. either our fast bowlers are cutting down the pace deliberately to prolong their career at the expense of our country' win OR they or our coach dont know which muscles in our body contribute to the pace of a bowler and train on them.the reason i am telling this because in the case of ishant we can see that he has filled up a little....but still his pace has gone down...that means he did not work on those muscles which contribute to the pace of the bowler......

  • remember123 on October 14, 2009, 2:04 GMT

    do not agree on the excuses given! Here are my two cents worth 1) Focus on bowling. I am tired of reading about your views on issues outside of bowling. Leave the comments on other issues to senior players. 2) Focus on what is important- you were on the news ( before bombing out in the matches) wanting to bowl 100 miles per hour balls. What we want is you bowling on a tight length and line even if your speed is not up to par. Cut out your no balls and wides which will add further distraction to your bowling. When you can bowl proper length and line consistently, increase your speed. 3) Avoid putting him on pressure situations. At least two matches were lost recently thanks to erratic bowling during critical overs. He needs to mature more. 4) work on fielding and batting ( improved recently) too. We need all rounders.

  • on_the_level on October 13, 2009, 20:58 GMT

    Ishant's wrist points to fine leg, rather than at the stumps at delivery. Rectify that, Mr Prasad, and he'll be bowling at 145kph, along with bounce generated by wrist-snap.

  • greathief911 on October 13, 2009, 19:50 GMT

    i have never seen prsad himself being a really good bowler himself. ya he did get 5 wickets hauls only a few times but that said he is not deserving to be a bowling coach he was by no means a really good bowler himself what does bcci expect froom him. bcci needs to change our bowling coach to wasim akram or javagal srinath or someone similarly successful please.

  • RDLikesCricket on October 13, 2009, 18:11 GMT

    Looks like the Lanky boy Venky has grown up. :) Jokes apart, Ishant is in need of something that will make him focus on cricket. IPL, Ads, Money etc etc will keep happening. He is a good bowler (we all remember Perth, lets move on), but then the beauty of being good is to be consistent. Someone in Team India or BCCI should give him a dose of "Antibiotics" and he will be back on track. I think having some intense but healthy competition among the pace bowlers in the pool of talent available in India will/should inspire Ishant to be a better bowler. I think we also have this habit of attaching "greatness" to someone pretty soon and then going after him if he suffers a loss of form or confidence.

  • Ilin on October 13, 2009, 16:49 GMT

    also,when your general is too stupid and weak,then what can sepoys do?dhoni is busy in modelling,so is ishant.all indian team should join films.

  • Winfried on October 13, 2009, 15:43 GMT

    hia06ot is correct. Cricketers do need time to mature just like other players. I've pointed out so many times that Brett Lee who is doing wonderful service for Australia now, was an expensive fast bowler for many years. Same with Stuart Broad. Prasad is completely correct. All over the world, players need time to develop. Indian fans are fickle and expect too much.

  • chintumani on October 13, 2009, 15:24 GMT

    Prasad has to understand one thing. Forget about people's expectancy. Just ask Ishant has he done any justice to his career after the dream tour of Australia. He is not bowling in right places. If he's not able to bowl in the right places even after 2 yrs of intl cricket, he will never do it in his career. Prasad says he is not mature enough...why is his economy and avg so horrible. Conside Aameer of Pak or any new Australian bowler, they have a much better avg and eco. Its all abt dedication, hard work and concentration. The rest will take care of itself.

  • jhonyhandsome on October 13, 2009, 15:07 GMT

    i think mr prasad is trying to save his skin from the ordinery performnce from his bowlers, being a coach he hasn' t delivered, has let the team down, and trying to find a scape route, and should be sacked.for a fast bowler the main strength is speed, and everything else could be developed their after. the problem with our bowler is, they are good when they are fresh,but after some time they lose pace and power in teir bowling, because of lack of specificy in their training, and most of the time they dont realy know what they need to train and how should it be trained. fast bowling involves lot of muscle mobility and puts lot of stress on it, so one need to be strong and in top physicle condition to sustain the long and injury free career. and should train smartly, depending on the requirement instead of waisting time on something else.

  • BVK_SRT on October 13, 2009, 14:35 GMT

    I accept Prasad's voice on ishant's form!!!thats nt the remedy whatsoever!!!! Ill tell you, there has been a really bad situation for indian bowling fraternity!!!! These Pathans, RPs , Nehras, Munafs are of no use with international conditions!!!! We need pace!!! Look at others such as Australians for instance man...., If at all main frame bowlers dry out, they have sufficient pace bowlers who can go well with 140 consistents who can be well groomed!!!! 1] We need revolutio in bowling in india....WE really have bowlers who can perform well in streets out there!!!! Get into selection mood locally....wee can really built ina good team all over....BCCI claims to be the richest!! So, its required that they invest in these things!!!

    2] I hate indian bowlers puttin in short of a lenght deliveries to every batsmen out there!!! They dont have enough pace whatsoever!!!

    Hope, my voice is heard. Indian bowlin is in dire state of bowlers failure!!!

    Zaheer Khan's comeback is expected!!!

  • dhru87 on October 13, 2009, 14:34 GMT

    Prasad and us Indians need to realize one thing:

    When we give stardums to Indian players, they DO NOT WORK hard at all, thanks to the attention media/fans give them. commercials/other money generating options are available for them so they give them more importance over cricket. This is wat happened with Ishant. it will never happen in australia. you need hardworkign players to win games and MS dhoni, tendulkar, dravid, laxman, gambhir, raina, nehra, mishra, power are examples of it. opposite is true for harbhajan (i dont even know why he is in the team), ishant, irfan, yusuf, sehwag (he f ires when he wants to), and most importantly YUVRAJ.

    you need to drop them... no one should have a guaranteed seat but captain, only then these ppl would work hard. Stop this BS about maturity

  • AtTiDuDe on October 13, 2009, 14:06 GMT

    hi Mr. prasad if he can't bowl at his best at this age then how can u expect him to bowl fast later on? than wot bout aamer and stuart broad bowling at 145kmp+?.

  • AB235 on October 13, 2009, 14:03 GMT

    This is why the wise fans have been asking to keep Ishant out of ODI & T20 and make him play test matches only for a couple of years. That will help in the process. Instead, his captain makes him play every limited overs match (and consistently ignores the likes of Praveen Kumar or Munaf Patel) - the situation is similar as it was for Irfan Pathan. Both had great success in test matches in Australia and then they were given such prominence in limited over matches. It is essential that Ishant needs a long break from ODIs and T20 matches. There are many young fast bowlers in the world who are fast as well as effective. Prasad has forgotten one Mr. Kapildev or Wasim Akram I think who made debuts earlier than Ishant did.

  • zulash on October 13, 2009, 13:37 GMT

    I suppose Venkatesh Prasad is like alice in wonderland!!! Its time to wake up and get realistic. Ishant has been not performing for a while and his recent form has been pathetic ...right from the IPL2 in South Africa. Yet the think tank of Team India continued to include him in the playing XI despite his lack of pace, line, lenght etc. Seems like Dhoni has too much of confidence and expects too much from him. All said and done, both Dhoni and Prasad need to realize that they are banking on the wrong person. Similarly the BCCI needs to get rid of people like Venkatesh Prasad as a bowling coach who were neither the best in their game in their time....nor are the best in passing statements such as the one in this article. Team India definitely needs a better BOWLING COACH to groom the young budding talents!!!

  • amit1807kuwait on October 13, 2009, 13:32 GMT

    This is nonsense from Venky. And whilst the blame for fading away from international scene after making promising starts rests on the individuals themselves, one really has to wonder whether such guys were appropriately mentored. The list of fast-medium bowlers who have faded away in the last five years or so after promising starts rivals our neighbours Pakistan, who also churn out talented bowlers and who similarly faded away. In our case, its the temperament together with fitness which contributes to the decline in skills of these bowlers, in the case of Pakistan, its reasons unknown! Prasad should really look for talent who can swing the bowl because speed alone does not frighten batsmen at international level. And once we have such talent, nurture them, rather than over-expose them. Sudip Tyagi is one of the better talent going around these days. Lets see what the future holds for him.

  • Percy_Fender on October 13, 2009, 13:08 GMT

    It might be useful for Ishant to go back to his first coach to get back his form and luck maybe. He should just practice bowling on or about the off stump,concentrate on his bowling fast and get a mean yorker in his arsenal. Loss of form,rythm and luck is not uncommon among fast bowlers, more so in a land like India where there are so many expectations from everyone.The excellent form of Munaf in the Challengers and Nehra on his comeback will show that the domestic circuit helps a lot. Sreesanth too gained something by bowling for Warwickshire under Donald even if he criticised him for not concentrating on specifics. This points to a faulty coaching schedule. It is surprising to see that none of our fast bowlers under contract are able to bowl a good yorker with the exception of Zaheer and to some extent Nehra. More than the bowlers themselves I think our coaching methods should be revisited because Pathan, Munaf, Ishant and RP Singh seem to have lost their pace after good debuts.

  • Percy_Fender on October 13, 2009, 12:49 GMT

    I have been watching Ishant from the time he made that impressive beginning against Ponting and others in Australia. I saw him recently in the Challengers Cup where he bowled quite well . He bowls slower only when he loses his line and gets hit. That would suggest that he needs all the encouragement and constructive advice in helping him get back not criticism as seems to be happenning today. It is possible that Venkatesh Prasad, a fine seam bowler in his prime, may have been in an indirect way, responsible for Ishant dropping his pace. But as Alan Donald pointed out recently about Sreesanth, whose unwillingness to concentrate on specifics was seen as a major problem for that bowler, it might just be something like that for all our pace bowlers. This may be due out to faulty coaching. If Ishant bowls from the edge of the crease on or around off stump line moving the ball both ways and works on a great yorker he would be quite a handful to any batsman because of his height.

  • Ilin on October 13, 2009, 12:25 GMT

    ishant is a modal rather than a cricketer. and everyone knows that venky is the one of the top failed players in india.he only shone at the time of amir sohail only

  • arish2005 on October 13, 2009, 12:22 GMT

    I would like to mention couple of points,

    1. How and why is Prasad being retained as the bowling coach? In his entire career he could never bowl yorkers and it is quite obvious that the Indian bowlers (learning bowling from Prasad) can't bowl yourkers. 2. Prasad himself bowled only slow medium pace and the people learning bowling from him have all forgot bowling quick and have become slow medium pace bowlers. 3. My request to BCCI, please get rid of Prasad and have someone better suited as Indian bowling coach.

  • deepak9999222329 on October 13, 2009, 11:52 GMT

    For prasad he started his career at 24 than why cant he join India team at the age of 34 as he mentioned in his column.And also BCCI should think again about bowling coach needed for India team,I suppose kirsten is doing his duty well.

    For Ishant he moved a bit to glamour,so make him to concentrate on cricket field. The same thing apply to the RP Singh as well as for Ashish Nehra, when they are out from the Indian team they are performing in IPL or other tournaments as they are the best bowlers for the India.

    And suddenly when they started playing they are same when they are dropped from the Indian team.

    For Zaheer khan he started performing well for India when he was dropped,and that time we have bowlers in form like balaji,pathan,Nehra,RP singh,Munaf patel etc.

  • raveeems on October 13, 2009, 11:42 GMT

    Hi, Mr. Prasad what is wrong with you? you cant give an excuse for the under performance of Ishant and other bowlers. As a coach u have to motivate and make them gain confidence. I dont think there is anything wrong about our pitches. Pitches cannot be a reason for the under performance. Pakistan have flatter pitches than ours, but they could consistently produce a fast bowler. technique change?? whats that! i think ishant or RP singh or Irfan or any other Indian bowler performed really well and were taking wickets before that so called "technique change" was implemented on them. Zaheer didn't change his technique neither his pace was dropped. International players need no technique change instead they need tips to develop their wicket taking ability. every international player would have earned his spots by maturing as a quality bowler. Expectancy is normal in cricket crazy nation like India where there should be constant performance which will make the team perform better evrytime.

  • anjaneya on October 13, 2009, 11:18 GMT

    I would just like to say that this comment by Prasad is absolutely rubbish, how is that someone like Stuart Broad, who is the same age as Ishant can enter international cricket bowling in mid 130 kmph, and now is hitting 150, as opposed to Ishant who was bowling around 145-147 in Australia is now struggling to even hit 135 consistently. The fact is that Indian players do get distracted by things outside the game and our media does then no favors. The bench strength everyone was boasting about has suddenly disappeared. We have seen this far too many times for it to be just another case of unrealized potential. Zaheer Khan, Irfan Pathan, Sreesanth to name a few. The cricketers need to realize that its their cricket which is getting them all the accolades, and they should be reminded, to quote Virender Sehwag from the life insurance Ad, "Jab tak balla chal raha hai, thaat hain, jab balla chalna rukega to..."

  • kvgrk on October 13, 2009, 11:11 GMT

    One way of looking at Prasad's comments is that experience for any player is needed to perform consistently at the international level. Ishant has got the right temperment and bowling skills to perform at the international level and that's why he is there but lacks maturity to maintain performance and fitness at that level. If things suddenly stop working like erring line and length or getting injured too often due to whatever reasons, a matured player can handle it in a better manner than rookies like Ishant. What I don't understand here is the bar set by Prasad as minimum of X no. of overs to be bolwed as practice / Y no. of years to be spent in domestic circuit. This is ridiculous and if this is the reason why Ishant is not performing or apparently losing pace in bowling, then only supporting staff/coaches are to be blamed. Then what's the point in inducting players at the age of 18 or 19 if coaches can't groom them and simply give a formula of success = X no. of overs / years ??

  • Mad_Mahi on October 13, 2009, 10:11 GMT

    It's true indeed, it is the expectation on him is much larger than his experience, there is no doubt about his talent, he just need to be consistent. That consistent comes with experience. The only fault Ishant committing is lots of width to batsman in one day's, as a coach prasad can point out the fault to him. It's upto Ishant to rectify the fault, he needs to play domestic matches to rectify this problem, that is what prasad is trying to mention. Bowling in nets is not going to much for him, he is committing the same mistakes in the international matches. He must avoid playing International one-day matches for sometime and concentrate on Domestic one-day tournaments.

  • Another_brick_in_the_wall on October 13, 2009, 10:09 GMT

    They should be dropped if they are not doing well, that way they will lose on brand value, which will in turn make them lose some corporates who are behind their back for advertisements etc... Simple solution !! I don't think at international level you can dictate terms to players... I mean you can tell them where they are going wrong technically, but to teach them how to bowl is just isn't possible. If you don't know how to bowl and what is good for you then it is not your business to be in the national side. Too much too soon is apt, but I didn't hear them complain when they were raking in money from all sides and setting expectations... Shape up or ship out ! And Aamer, lets see how long he'll last... If he keeps his feet on the ground, he will be an excellent bowler.

  • AsifRathod on October 13, 2009, 9:57 GMT

    I m totally agree with V.Prasad's argument. Young players from India , play very little domestic cricket before entering International arena. Selectors judge them by performance in, U-19 WC or some short format bilateral series. There must be a policy that, Every Player must have atleast two years of domestic experience before getting berth in National side. India have given chances to, many youngsters, they have performed well too, in patches, but doesnt seems like long term horses.

  • hia06ot on October 13, 2009, 9:44 GMT

    How are Brett Lee, Mitchell Johnson or Andre Nel young. Nel is floundering at surrey, Brett lee is ancient and Johnson has been playing for ten years, albeit on and off due to injury. The fact of the matter is Ishant's figures are not remotely bad for a young bowler. Whilst he may not have been particularly economical recently, 19 wickets in 13 games is a handy return. Indian fans are so annoyingly fickle, at the first sign of a slight drop in performance they're calling for heads to be chopped left, right and centre. Up untill the second half of this year India's pace attack was the strongest it has ever been, and probably still would be if it wasn't for the injury to Zaheer and indifferent performances by certain bowlers. Give Ishant time to develop, similar to how England have treated Stuart Broad and he should prosper. Only the naïve would expect a 20 year old to lead their attack.

  • susrila on October 13, 2009, 9:30 GMT

    Mr.Prasad is only avoiding question beingraised on his job. He is a good bowler no doubt, but as a coach he has failed. Ishant, as a bowler who had troubled no less than Ponting, is now being told 'has to mature' by him. Also the number of failures in the Indian team is alarming, to say a few Irfan Pathan, Munaf Patel, Srisanth.

  • bajlooka on October 13, 2009, 9:26 GMT

    rubbish statement from prasad. You have to perform well in the international cricket right from the word go. Otherwise you should not play international cricket at all. If you want maturity then play domestic cricket for 5 years or more. It's not like play for maturity in your first 5 years of international cricket and then perform well. We have the right to expect some consistency from international players. prasad should be ashamed of himself. Bowlers have 60 balls to bowl in ODI. They have every chance to comeback strongly even after erring the line and length. It's is not same for batsman, even single mistake is enough to loose your wicket. Bowlers does not need too many chances to proove his line,length and variations. It's better for ishanth to play domestic cricket to improove his bowling.

  • Parth_Pala on October 13, 2009, 9:21 GMT

    It was not too long ago this was said about Zaheer, he turned out pretty good after maturing. Ishant needs time as do most of our national bowlers who are below the age of 25 currently. But then there is the issue of the loss of pace, that comes from the BCCI overworking these players . It doesn't help India has never produced a standout bowler who is out and out pace or swing. Zaheer Khan is probably the best bowler we ever produced as a pure fast, out and out, bowler. I never considered Kapil Dev a pure out and out bowler. Therefore we have no one to coach or guide these kids. Furthermore fitness would certainly be of concern. If I remember correctly RP Singh was constantly about 88mph-90mph after his stint in England where the trainers straight strengthened weak body parts. Similarly Ishant was hitting 90mph+ constantly. Unfortunately the Indian work ethic combined with a lack of knowledgeable trainers have only added to this conundrum. Its shameful really.

  • Jawaidnazir on October 13, 2009, 9:15 GMT

    Prasad why are you expecting more from Ishant sharma, he is doing his best and can not perform like Kapil dev, Srinath and you. You will find more talent and stop working on him.

  • Zishanpurple on October 13, 2009, 8:48 GMT

    What does Mr. Prasad means when he says "People are expecting too much too early". Shall we stop expecting even from the national team?? Had any experienced bowler be better than Ishant (except Zaheer and Irfan ofcourse) then Ishant would have not been in the team. Learn something from Wasim Akram guys. When he brings a talent, he makes sure that they are groomed well, not like the Indian bowlers, who fall prey of the action correction and betterment techniques of not so celebrated coaches. Why don't they let a player follow his own style. By the way if Mr. Prasad has not noticed, Mohammed Amer is just 17 and there is nobody to curb his pace. Let Ishant be on his own and he will do way better.

  • navdeep79 on October 13, 2009, 8:35 GMT

    I absolutely do not agree with Prasad You do not need ten years to be aone of the best bret lee, Mitchell Jonson,Siddle or Nel are perfoming well even though they are young I think we need fast wickets like in Australia or South Africa to Produce genuine pace bowlers and allrounders.I think that is the reason of australia or South Africa's dominance in the world cricket.On the other hand Our BCCI being the richest board in the world does not seem to be concerned about it and keeps for feeding the batsmen with flat pitches.The recent Feroz Shah kotla pitch aptly shows what i am trying to prove. No team can be a great team without a good pace attack which we never had.In cricket all it takes is for a great batsmen to make one mistake but same is not true for a bowler.I feel so amazed that even our greats like Tendulkar, dravid,gavaskar or kapil donot press our board to make our domestic cricket strong.India's bowling attack is even weaker than australia'a second grade attack

  • abhirs11 on October 13, 2009, 8:30 GMT

    Hi, I fully agree to prasad's comment that there are lofty expectations-too much too early- out of ishant or munaf. But what seems to be missing in them these days is the youthful enthusiasm, the involvement or the thought process while bowling. On seeing them on screen, one gets a feel that they aren't thinking about what to bowl,when to bowl...it is all come do ur job and go away. What everybody would appreciate in them is if they could show intensity and energy in the field both while bowling or fielding..the way shown by some other youngsters like angelo mathews,mohamed aamer,van de merwe.

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  • abhirs11 on October 13, 2009, 8:30 GMT

    Hi, I fully agree to prasad's comment that there are lofty expectations-too much too early- out of ishant or munaf. But what seems to be missing in them these days is the youthful enthusiasm, the involvement or the thought process while bowling. On seeing them on screen, one gets a feel that they aren't thinking about what to bowl,when to bowl...it is all come do ur job and go away. What everybody would appreciate in them is if they could show intensity and energy in the field both while bowling or fielding..the way shown by some other youngsters like angelo mathews,mohamed aamer,van de merwe.

  • navdeep79 on October 13, 2009, 8:35 GMT

    I absolutely do not agree with Prasad You do not need ten years to be aone of the best bret lee, Mitchell Jonson,Siddle or Nel are perfoming well even though they are young I think we need fast wickets like in Australia or South Africa to Produce genuine pace bowlers and allrounders.I think that is the reason of australia or South Africa's dominance in the world cricket.On the other hand Our BCCI being the richest board in the world does not seem to be concerned about it and keeps for feeding the batsmen with flat pitches.The recent Feroz Shah kotla pitch aptly shows what i am trying to prove. No team can be a great team without a good pace attack which we never had.In cricket all it takes is for a great batsmen to make one mistake but same is not true for a bowler.I feel so amazed that even our greats like Tendulkar, dravid,gavaskar or kapil donot press our board to make our domestic cricket strong.India's bowling attack is even weaker than australia'a second grade attack

  • Zishanpurple on October 13, 2009, 8:48 GMT

    What does Mr. Prasad means when he says "People are expecting too much too early". Shall we stop expecting even from the national team?? Had any experienced bowler be better than Ishant (except Zaheer and Irfan ofcourse) then Ishant would have not been in the team. Learn something from Wasim Akram guys. When he brings a talent, he makes sure that they are groomed well, not like the Indian bowlers, who fall prey of the action correction and betterment techniques of not so celebrated coaches. Why don't they let a player follow his own style. By the way if Mr. Prasad has not noticed, Mohammed Amer is just 17 and there is nobody to curb his pace. Let Ishant be on his own and he will do way better.

  • Jawaidnazir on October 13, 2009, 9:15 GMT

    Prasad why are you expecting more from Ishant sharma, he is doing his best and can not perform like Kapil dev, Srinath and you. You will find more talent and stop working on him.

  • Parth_Pala on October 13, 2009, 9:21 GMT

    It was not too long ago this was said about Zaheer, he turned out pretty good after maturing. Ishant needs time as do most of our national bowlers who are below the age of 25 currently. But then there is the issue of the loss of pace, that comes from the BCCI overworking these players . It doesn't help India has never produced a standout bowler who is out and out pace or swing. Zaheer Khan is probably the best bowler we ever produced as a pure fast, out and out, bowler. I never considered Kapil Dev a pure out and out bowler. Therefore we have no one to coach or guide these kids. Furthermore fitness would certainly be of concern. If I remember correctly RP Singh was constantly about 88mph-90mph after his stint in England where the trainers straight strengthened weak body parts. Similarly Ishant was hitting 90mph+ constantly. Unfortunately the Indian work ethic combined with a lack of knowledgeable trainers have only added to this conundrum. Its shameful really.

  • bajlooka on October 13, 2009, 9:26 GMT

    rubbish statement from prasad. You have to perform well in the international cricket right from the word go. Otherwise you should not play international cricket at all. If you want maturity then play domestic cricket for 5 years or more. It's not like play for maturity in your first 5 years of international cricket and then perform well. We have the right to expect some consistency from international players. prasad should be ashamed of himself. Bowlers have 60 balls to bowl in ODI. They have every chance to comeback strongly even after erring the line and length. It's is not same for batsman, even single mistake is enough to loose your wicket. Bowlers does not need too many chances to proove his line,length and variations. It's better for ishanth to play domestic cricket to improove his bowling.

  • susrila on October 13, 2009, 9:30 GMT

    Mr.Prasad is only avoiding question beingraised on his job. He is a good bowler no doubt, but as a coach he has failed. Ishant, as a bowler who had troubled no less than Ponting, is now being told 'has to mature' by him. Also the number of failures in the Indian team is alarming, to say a few Irfan Pathan, Munaf Patel, Srisanth.

  • hia06ot on October 13, 2009, 9:44 GMT

    How are Brett Lee, Mitchell Johnson or Andre Nel young. Nel is floundering at surrey, Brett lee is ancient and Johnson has been playing for ten years, albeit on and off due to injury. The fact of the matter is Ishant's figures are not remotely bad for a young bowler. Whilst he may not have been particularly economical recently, 19 wickets in 13 games is a handy return. Indian fans are so annoyingly fickle, at the first sign of a slight drop in performance they're calling for heads to be chopped left, right and centre. Up untill the second half of this year India's pace attack was the strongest it has ever been, and probably still would be if it wasn't for the injury to Zaheer and indifferent performances by certain bowlers. Give Ishant time to develop, similar to how England have treated Stuart Broad and he should prosper. Only the naïve would expect a 20 year old to lead their attack.

  • AsifRathod on October 13, 2009, 9:57 GMT

    I m totally agree with V.Prasad's argument. Young players from India , play very little domestic cricket before entering International arena. Selectors judge them by performance in, U-19 WC or some short format bilateral series. There must be a policy that, Every Player must have atleast two years of domestic experience before getting berth in National side. India have given chances to, many youngsters, they have performed well too, in patches, but doesnt seems like long term horses.

  • Another_brick_in_the_wall on October 13, 2009, 10:09 GMT

    They should be dropped if they are not doing well, that way they will lose on brand value, which will in turn make them lose some corporates who are behind their back for advertisements etc... Simple solution !! I don't think at international level you can dictate terms to players... I mean you can tell them where they are going wrong technically, but to teach them how to bowl is just isn't possible. If you don't know how to bowl and what is good for you then it is not your business to be in the national side. Too much too soon is apt, but I didn't hear them complain when they were raking in money from all sides and setting expectations... Shape up or ship out ! And Aamer, lets see how long he'll last... If he keeps his feet on the ground, he will be an excellent bowler.