All-time XI: India

Dhoni, Kumble, Hazare in India's all-time XI

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September 14, 2010

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Virender Sehwag, Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid concentrate hard during batting practice, Mumbai, November 30, 2009
The presence of Sehwag, Tendulkar and Dravid in the XI gives India a formidable batting line-up © AFP
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MS Dhoni has made it to ESPNcricinfo's India all-time XI, beating record-holding wicketkeepers Syed Kirmani and Kiran More, by virtue of his superior batting. Dhoni was picked by seven members of the 11-person jury, which was unanimous in voting Sachin Tendulkar, Sunil Gavaskar, Kapil Dev and Vinoo Mankad into the XI.

The No. 5 spot divided the jury the most, and Vijay Hazare, who played only eight innings in that position (one of them in the Adelaide Test of 1948, where he made two centuries), was preferred over the likes of Gundappa Viswanath, MAK Pataudi, Dilip Vengsarkar, Mohinder Amarnath and VVS Laxman.

The opening positions are taken by Virender Sehwag (10 votes) and Gavaskar, a blend of attack and defence, while the presence of Rahul Dravid (nine votes) and Tendulkar at Nos. 3 and 4 makes India's the only batting line-up among the eight leading countries, for which ESPNcricinfo has picked all-time XIs, to have over 42,000 Test runs between the top four.

Only one bowler from India's legendary spin quartet of the 70s makes it to the XI. Offspinner Erapalli Prasanna, with 189 wickets in 49 Tests, joins Anil Kumble (nine votes), Javagal Srinath and Kapil to form the bowling line-up. Allrounder Mankad, who took 162 wickets at 32.32 with his slow left-armers, completes the spin-dominated attack.

India's XI is the only one to feature just two fast bowlers. Australia had fast-bowling allrounder Keith Miller to back Dennis Lillee and Glenn McGrath, and South Africa had Mike Procter to help Shaun Pollock and Allan Donald.

Among the notable omissions, who did not make it to the XIs of any of the jury members, were former captain Mohammad Azharuddin; Bishan Bedi, perhaps the most highly rated of the spin quartet; and wicketkeeper Farokh Engineer.

ESPNcricinfo readers were invited to vote on the shortlists and their XI matched the jury's in all but one: Laxman was the readers' choice for No. 5 instead of Hazare.

The jury included former Test players Sanjay Manjrekar and Arun Lal, former Mumbai player and coach Vasu Paranjape, sports journalists Pradeep Magazine, Ayaz Memon, R Mohan and Suresh Menon, cricket historian Ramachandra Guha and television commentator Harsha Bhogle.

Read more about the XI here.

The XI: Sunil Gavaskar, Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, Vijay Hazare, Vinoo Mankad, Kapil Dev, MS Dhoni, Anil Kumble, Javagal Srinath, Erapalli Prasanna.

Readers' XI: Sunil Gavaskar, Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, VVS Laxman, Vinoo Mankad, Kapil Dev, MS Dhoni, Anil Kumble, Javagal Srinath, Erapalli Prasanna.

Nominees

Openers: Sunil Gavaskar, Vijay Merchant, Virender Sehwag, Navjot Sidhu.

Middle order: Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, VVS Laxman, Gundappa Viswanath, Vijay Hazare, MAK Pataudi, Mohinder Amarnath, Polly Umrigar, Sourav Ganguly, CK Nayudu, Mohammad Azharuddin, Dilip Vengsarkar.

Allrounders: Kapil Dev, Dattu Phadkar, Vinoo Mankad, Manoj Prabhakar.

Wicketkeepers: Naren Tamhane, Kiran More, Syed Kirmani, Nayan Mongia, MS Dhoni.

Fast bowlers: Javagal Srinath, Kapil Dev, Zaheer Khan, Mohammad Nissar, Amar Singh.

Spinners: Anil Kumble, Bishan Bedi, Erapalli Prasanna, Subhash Gupte, Bhagwath Chandrasekhar, Harbhajan Singh, Dilip Doshi, S Venkataraghavan, Vinoo Mankad.

© ESPN Sports Media Ltd.

Posted by MannuBhai22 on (September 17, 2010, 20:54 GMT)

I would at any time pick Laxam ahead of Hazare. Also my captain would be Gavaskar rather than Kumble because Kumble is not a guarantee for away tests. Gavaskar was only defensive because of India's strength at that time. In addition to always being shrewd, he showed on several occasions that he can be aggressive too. Remeber World Chmpnshp 85, Melbourne 81. My 12th man would be Zaheer, he would replace Prasanna/Kumble in tests where pitches are conducive to seam bowling. Also my keeper would be Kirmani though I must admit that it will be a tight race between him & Dhoni. What works in favor of Kirmani though is his excellant glovework for both pace & spin alike & his longevity without any injuries. Remember this is a specialist position & batting should not be the criteria as batting in this line up is immensely strong with 2 alrounders (Kapil & Mankad) backing up Sunny, Shewag, Dravid, Sachin & Laxman. Finally Mohinder, Gupte/Chandra, Dhoni-bkup WK & Amar Singh would complete my 16.

Posted by MannuBhai22 on (September 17, 2010, 20:41 GMT)

Except Sharda Ugra, all of them got it wrong proving they are no different than the original bunch of jokers. How can anyone with cricketing common sense not pick Laxman. He has been the architect of India's turnaround in cricketing fortunes. Laxman's average is comparable to the best if his stats as opener are taken away. Morever the value and stability that he brings to the middle order can never be measured by stats alone. It is only after his return to the middle order from being a reluctuant opener that India started winning test matches consistenly home/away & importantly not loosing as many as before. Most people seem to only remember his magical 281 but he has made innumerable contributions over the decade that proved to be the difference between a win/draw v/s loosing a test. He has been the best crisis man for team India, adept at both playing spin and pace alike. Laxman brngs his best in challenging situations unlike some of his peers.So I would pick him ahead of Hazare.

Posted by   on (September 16, 2010, 11:48 GMT)

As always Indian batting line looks very strong but bowling attack is not impressive.

Posted by ashishmitz on (September 16, 2010, 10:59 GMT)

m a little amazed the way people in india forget fews things so easily... nominating players like azharuddin is a shame on all of us.. srry if m sounding very narrow minded but how can u acclaim a person u has on a global platform let the whole contry down... u r tlking about the India Xl and u wnt to include azharuddin in tht... although u havent (jury )..... pls do think about this.. it to write this one thing tht i have logged into cricinfo..

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 16, 2010, 6:55 GMT)

this may be the best combination. vijay hajare is the best batsman in 1950s.and average of 47 indicate this. similarly mankad is best before kapil as a allrounder spot. so it gives variety in the team as batting and bowling are concerned. he can also open for india and can bowl 50 overs in an inning with good economy rate. so he is an anonymous choice. i am pleased to see the team combination. threeworld class spinners. 4 rocking batsman 1 great batsman wktkeeper 2 world class allrounders 1medium pacer(hazare) and two fasters. all can come in a single team. a team which has great bowling side. this team can bowl 200 overs without tiredness. and the captain of this team is anil kumble with dhoni is deputy. in test kumble is the right choice. see perth test is the best example

Posted by amitava0112 on (September 15, 2010, 19:31 GMT)

Decent selection...i wud make it a 16 man test squad with Bedi,Chandra,Jimmy,VVS ,Zaheer Khan & Kirmani added to the 11 selected & Prasanna removed . If test match is played in India subcontinent (except pak)then my 1st XI is : Gavaskar ,Sehwag,Dravid,Sachin ,VVS ,Mankad,Kapil,Dhoni,Kumble, Zaheer & Chandra . If match is played abroad & Pakistan..then Jimmy comes into above team (for his superb overseas & Pak record) replacing Mankad & will bat at 3 with Sachin-4,Dravid-5 & VVS-6 & Bedi replaces Chandra for variety & the fact that Mankad is not in team. Hazare altough a great batsman misses out narrowally from both my teams mainly because VVS is a match winner & another notable absentee from my test squad is Vishwanath..anther batting great.. as Kiri is 2nd keeper if dhoni is injured. I cant resist but choosing a best Ind ODIXI also: Sachin,Saurav,Viru,Jimmy,Azhar,Yuvi,Dhoni,Kapil,Shastri Zaheer & Kumble...with Srinath in for Yuvi on a seaming track..how about this oneday side.

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 15, 2010, 18:02 GMT)

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE CRITERIA FOR JUDGING A PLAYER BY THE PERSONS WHO ARE WRITING THEIR COMMENTS. SOME JUDGES OLD CRICKETERS ARE GOOD AND SOME WANT NEW CRICKETERS. EVERYBODY HAVE ITS CHOICES AND SELECTIONS BUT DONT CRITICISE THEMSELVES...........HE IS NOT GOOD HERE AND THERE. TODAYS CRICKETERS ARE ALWAYS DEMANDED MORE BUT YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT THE PAST. YOU SEE AN EXAMPLE............. WISDEN CRICKETER OF INDIA NAMED AS KAPIL DEV BUT THE PEOPLE CHOICE WAS SACHIN AT THAT TIME. BECAUSE AT THAT TIME KAPIL HAD A LEGENDRY STATUS AND NOW IF YOU CHOOSE BEST INDIAN CRICKETER THEN IT WOULD BE CERTAINLY SACHIN. TIME PLAY A MAJOR ROLE FOR THE GREATNESS. NOW SACHIN IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND NOBODY CAN DENY HIM. IF HE MADE 15 ZEROS CONTINUOUSLY THEN HE WOULD BE SAME SIMILARLY IF HE MADE 15 HUNDREDS CONTINUOUSLY THEN IT WOULD BE SAME. HE IS ONE OF THE BEST AND ALWAYS REMAIN SAME. SO YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU ARE CRITICISING SOMEONE LIKE SRT

Posted by squarepeg on (September 15, 2010, 14:45 GMT)

Overall, the selection is good, though I would take Kirmani over Dhoni. Dhoni's wicketkeeping is quite ordinary. He looks too stiff / tired to bend low or run to the stumps when a run is taken, and hands are not soft enough for keeping to classy spinners. This team's weakest point is fielding, esp outfielding and no genuine pace. There is no surprise that Hazare got in ahead of Laxman or Mohinder Amarnath, latter one of the best players of pace bowling. But, one doesnt pick the best players but the best team. Actually, with Dravid and Hazare coming # 3 and # 5, with Mankad following, the batting lacks balance, since neither Dravid nor Hazare can accelerate. it wud hv been better to keep one of them and have a striker like Pataudi or even Vengsarkar. Its sad that none of CK or Vijay Merchant or Subhash Gupte or Amar Singh could get in. I am happy Bedi and Azhar are not in. One is pretty much a trouble maker and not that outstanding a bowler; the other, a banned cricketer.

Posted by Bamarolls on (September 15, 2010, 14:24 GMT)

@Ronita: Great recollection. Remeber what happened on the Pak tour of 78-79 our though. I recall 6:00PM Air India Radio's broadcast (paraphrased) - then Bedi came and yielded 14 - 15 runs in couple of overs to Imran making Pakistan's job easier to claim an improbable victory. Alas, only if the India team ATXI was chosen based on one Ranji finals, I'd vote for Bedi too. Contribution over long time period, that to in varying conditions, Gavaskar is an automatic choice.

Posted by Aussasinator on (September 15, 2010, 14:20 GMT)

@Boom Boom. You're right. Chandrasekhar has be fitted into the team to give it a match winning edge. Since Dhoni & kapil are capable batting all rounders, we can perhaps drop a Vinoo Mankad and take a genuine match winning bowler. In any case a 12th man would be needed and that could be Vinoo. Or else the team looks awesome.

Posted by Bamarolls on (September 15, 2010, 14:11 GMT)

@safwan123; Is it possible that many a spinners in the all time best for other countries would not make it to India anytime XI? I am not agreeing with the statement that Srinath and Kapil Dev would not be in other test teams. Have you bothered to check that Kapil Dev held the world record for Test wickets before Warne and Murali went past his record? As for playing matches, every country plays approximately 50% of their matches on home turf. (Of course recent Pak matches and one SA match) are exceptions to that.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 13:52 GMT)

Such a Joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what has dhoni done to have him in ALL TIME XI??????????? I just cant believe it.................... soooooooooooooo biased selection.... rest lookz fine... but i am disappointed not to see VISHY!!! N glad not to see Harbajan...... :)

Posted by BoonBoom on (September 15, 2010, 9:24 GMT)

Batting is pretty strong but its the bowling that has to take 20 wickets to win a match and this so called all time XI bowling has no capacity to do that. Why Chandrashekhar is not in the team? He has taken more wickets and played less test as compared to Srinath and his pace is certainly better than dolly medium pacers of Srinath. Then Bedi has the best bowling average than any other bowler who has taken over 100 wickets for India and he should be part of the team. Dhoni is totally misplaced - probably he paid some money - as he always does - to get into the all time team just after playing 4 years of test cricket!! One things is also clear that Indians appear to have very short lived memory and thats why all present era players are in the team. MAK Patudi should have been there as captain....perhaps the best captain India has produced. Why Azhar is not in? Anyway, strange selection overall.

Posted by sonjjay on (September 15, 2010, 8:22 GMT)

Why in the hell should Azhar be included in here its a shame we want someone like him in our side. As some one rightfully pointed out all the records of the Azhar,Prabhakar and Jadeja should be deleted. Viru ahead of Ganguly is certainly a better choice...

Posted by Rajesh. on (September 15, 2010, 8:21 GMT)

No Indian all-time XI is complete without VVS Laxman. What a shame that the man who has played crucial roles for his team more than anybody is not in the XI !! Laxman, in my opinion is as great as Rahul Dravid..............

Posted by CouchCommo93 on (September 15, 2010, 8:11 GMT)

@Dandavidd: 5th: Opinion, if you back it up with stats, i'm happy to listen 6th: Although we have never had a truly great pace-man, these guys do the job most of the time. cheers mate

Posted by CouchCommo93 on (September 15, 2010, 8:09 GMT)

@dandavidd: 1st: Maybe ppl were surprised he beat the other candidates despite their history. Also Dhoni is a very good captain, batsman, and keeper. He's fitter than most keepers India has ever had and can make a prolific difference in the team. 2nd: As much as I love dravid, sehwag and Kumble, they don't have to be definitely in the team as they had unique and tough competition. All of the above, if you read the article, make the cut due to their brilliance. Kumble in particular had to contend with the dynamic quartet of erapalli prasanna, bishan singh bedi, BS Chandrasekhar, and S Venkataraghavan. 3rd: Once is enough mate, if you so wish, by all means quote the Don. 4th: Vinoo Mankad was the best choice for ALLROUNDER position. Not VVS, although VVS should have made the team instead of Hazare. I think the readers made the best choice, however Hazare, to his own credit, would have also been a fine inclusion in the team.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 7:36 GMT)

where is Ganguly?? the most successful Indian captain!! what a shame?

Posted by jimbond on (September 15, 2010, 7:23 GMT)

No one can have issues for the first four: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid and Tendulkar. Hazare at No. 5 is okay. He was rated as good as Merchant, and would be at par with ancients like Umregar(if only Ranji could be picked to play for India). In my opinion these three were better than Vishwanath or Vengsarkar and Laxman- I have seen these three bat, but the oldies, one can only read from others. No. 6- Mankad is a good choice. He was as good an all rounder as India has produced. No. 7- Dhoni is okay- has a slight edge over Engineer, and a lot over Kirmani when it came to batting. No. 8 has to be Kapil . No. 9 Prasanna- no competition there- Venkat and Harbajan were too inferior to Prasanna. No. 10- I would choose Gupte over Chandra or Kumble . No. 11 could be Zaheer, but if what Wisden says about Amar Singh is true, he could be a better choice. My 11- Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Sachin, Hazare, Mankad, Dhoni, Amar Singh, Kapil, Prasanna, Gupte- Azhar/Solkar-12th man- for their fielding.

Posted by sunilvaidya on (September 15, 2010, 7:14 GMT)

My vote for the captain of this team goes M S Dhoni.

Posted by sunilvaidya on (September 15, 2010, 6:53 GMT)

if vote for choosing the captain of this side is taken my vote is for M S Dhoni.

Posted by Ronita on (September 15, 2010, 6:41 GMT)

My all time XI would be Bedi (captain), Virender, Sidhu, Laxman, M Amarnath, Dravid, Yuvraj/Kumble Kirmani, Kapil, Srinath, Parsanna.

Posted by tusharsb on (September 15, 2010, 6:34 GMT)

I think only Sanjay Manjrekar is a decent jury here!! Suresh Menon may be worst!!

Posted by tusharsb on (September 15, 2010, 6:33 GMT)

If there was something called magic in cricket, then Gupte was the magician. - Vinoo Mankad....................... ``I cannot imagine, what he would have done on today's spinners-paradise wickets'' Nari Contractor on Gupte!!

Posted by Saravjit on (September 15, 2010, 6:32 GMT)

Viswanath? People fighting for Viswanath please note barring that 100 in port of spain in 1976 did nothing of note on Fast Tracks Abroad.

Was a miserable failure against Imran in 1982 , kicked out and could never stage a comeback

it has to be Jimmy Amarnath with 9 100's , fighting 100's abroad .

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 6:31 GMT)

cricinfo team has picked the best XI they could have picked on the basis of the performance of the individual and his contribution in the team's win. I would rate this team as one of the best all time though it is very harsh not to see LAXMAN in the team he deserves to be in the team, espasially seeing his record verses AUSTRALIA where all the indian players struggled, the only thing that vijay hazare was the useful medium fast bowler by seeing his record in the LIST A level as well apart from being a fantastic batsman gives him the edge over LAXMAN. As a whole a very good team but LAXMAN will be my 12 th man......I have a huge respect for him he is one of the greatest to have played the game of cricket for INDIA.......we love you "MAGICIAN OF WRIST"

Posted by tusharsb on (September 15, 2010, 6:30 GMT)

"I don't think cricket will ever see a bowler like Gupte. You may see Prasanna, Bedi, Chandrasekhar, Venkataraghavan and Shane Warne." - Prasanna ........................ "Warne's a great bowler but the best leg-spinner I've ever seen is still (Subhash) Gupte. He could do things that I still don't believe all these years later," Sobers told the Australian.

Posted by tusharsb on (September 15, 2010, 6:29 GMT)

Really surprising to see Gupte not included!! Kumble is good for dustbowls in India .. but as good else where!!

Posted by Ronita on (September 15, 2010, 6:28 GMT)

Bishen Singh Bedi the greatest should have been there in the all time XI, not only as a spinner but also as a all time captain. I remember when after India's 78-79 pakistan's tour there was a Ranjii Trophy final match between Dehli and Bombay. Bedi was captaning Delhi and Gavaskar was captaining Bombay. Their reputations were at stake since most of the people from Bomaby asking for Bedi's head after pakistan's tour. Lo an behold Bedi's team not only won the final match but Bedi got 5 for including that of gavaskar's. Gavaskar was basically begging to survive in front of Bedi. But even after defeat Gavaskar was made captain by some of the same look a like people as this Jury. I never saw Gavaskar playing Bedi comfortably in domestic tournaments. Bedi was/is the greatest player India ever had. Jury's logic to select this XI for reasons unknown is ambiguous/suspicious.

Posted by Saravjit on (September 15, 2010, 6:22 GMT)

Srinath...............Ha Ha i will fall off my Chair Laughing.................in 8 Tests in Australia he Took 20 Wickets!!! on Great Bowling Tracks

Posted by buntyj on (September 15, 2010, 6:21 GMT)

its finally clear to me why we always select teams that more often than not embarrass us away; no point blaming selectors; our critics panel are also influenced by the same extraneous considerations

Posted by zohebchampion on (September 15, 2010, 6:03 GMT)

I always thought Bedi was an automatic choice for any All Time Indian Team.He was one of the finest Left Arm orthodox spinner of all time.He was not voted by any of the panel judge is very surprising.

Posted by My.AlterEgo_U.Knw_dSarcastic.Bichy1 on (September 15, 2010, 6:00 GMT)

((((((Posted by klobania on (September 14 2010, 19:34 PM GMT) @ indian fans i know u pple will start commenting abt me as it is very difficult to face the reality anyway if u still want to comment say watever as i m going away for a month n might not join cricinfo for some time have a good time))))))) LOL !!! ... Here we go, a typical Pakistani, when realized he was going to be ripped apart by Indians decided to run away like a COWARD.

Posted by chishtyirfan on (September 15, 2010, 5:55 GMT)

Kagzee sher.. on records they look good.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 5:53 GMT)

Laxman and Ganguly surely deserve a Spot.. They collectively shud have scored over 15000 runs i belv.. And what is more important is, that they are the Best in their times..

Posted by dandavidd on (September 15, 2010, 5:50 GMT)

First of all I would like to say that the HEADLINE as well as the first line of this article starts with DHONI's name..Why is he so over-hyped?!?!?.( he doesn't deserve to be in this XI) Secondly, why DRAVID, KUMBLE and SEHWAG are not unanimous selection.? Specially Dravid and Kumble never get the recognizability for thier courageous and marvelous efforts on and off the field!Thirdly, why could not they post the remark what Don Bradman had said of Tendulkar a decade ago.!Fourthly, Laxman most definitely deserves a place in the XI(instead od Mankaad).it was himself and dravid who made the turnarounds in Indian cricket since 2001 and consistently started winning matches overseas! Fifthly, the wicket-keeper place should have gone to Kirmani.! Lastly, I dont want to comment on Srinath or Zaheer because both of them are average bowlers and they had to give it to one of them because India never produced world class fast and fiery bowler till date! Overall a good team barring DHONI. cheers!

Posted by BullayBaaz on (September 15, 2010, 5:30 GMT)

Cricinfo team selection is not a shocker except for Hazare & Dhoni. Perhaps they were try to balance in time to keep the retiree crowd happy with Hazare pick. Vishy, Azhru, Lax, Mohinder and one could go on and on. But at least this is understandable.

Dhoni was a shocking nominee pick and even more shocking selection. Kirmani, Engineer, More are way ahead of Dhoni.

But you can't please us all - so, on the whole, a good job!

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 5:23 GMT)

Very Bad Selection from ESPN...No Laxman...Huh...How can be a test team is complete without Laxman...Come on...Stop Kidding!!!

Posted by rappedonthepads on (September 15, 2010, 5:16 GMT)

what's all this fuss about? its not like these guys have to play the world cup. Pity Laxman misses out- the story of his career.

Posted by nataraajds on (September 15, 2010, 5:12 GMT)

selecting Hazere ahed of vishy is surprisng. Vishy is a great player played his cricket against lilly,thomson, hadlee,roberts,holding, marshal,imran,leaver ,willis,underwood etc he has played many match winning & saving innings for india in both home & away test matches. he was very strong against Australia & Westindis. you cannot imagine a team with Vishy is incomplete. my ALL TIME XI will be

SUNNY, SEHWAG, DRAVID, SACHIN, VISHY, DHONI, V.MANKAD,KAPLIL, SRINATH, KUMBLE AND PRASANNA

Posted by RSG476 on (September 15, 2010, 5:10 GMT)

@Ravi Babu Arangi : Sourav Ganguly did not make it to my team as a player, though I share the same ethinicity as him. You are free to have an opinion, but before you comment on "Bengalis crying like babies" please take a look at the names of those who have been vocal in wanting Ganguly in the team and welcome them to Bengali ethnicity - here are some for your persual : Anvesh Reddy, Aahir Giri, Jahaji, Seezan Ahmed Alamin, Kondapalli Sheeta Ram, Subhesh Vs, Samit Misra. If there has been one Indian captain who had risen above regionalism and ethnicity, it was Ganguly. As the list shows, his fan club extends across India. We do ourselves, the Indian team and Ganguly a disservice by carping on his ethnicity. It does not behoove a cricket fan.

Posted by RSG476 on (September 15, 2010, 4:55 GMT)

I am surprised that Kirmani and Vishwanath did not make it. Does a line up that Vinoo Mankad coming in at number 7 really need another wicketkeeper batsman ? Also, while Hazare was undoubtedly a great cricketer with great performances in Australia and also in England (when Umrigar et al came a cropper), his best years were lost to WWII, and by the time he toured WI, he was no longer the Hazare of old. Vishwanath's performance against the feared WI attack would probably be a better choice. Consider also the possible Second XI : Vijay Merchant, Engineer Vengsarkar, Vishwanath, Laxman, Ganguly, Phadkar, Venkat, Zaheer Khan, Bedi and Chandrasekhar. I have chosen Engineer over Kirmani as he can provide the opening slot for batting. Ganguly provides a bowling option. Yet that still leaves out Amarnath. BTW, I was very surprised that the middle order did not have an option for Vijay Manjrekar and that Chandu Borde did not find a mention in the short list. Two solid performers for India.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 4:40 GMT)

I think this list has done justice to all the greats ... Dhoni's inclusion is natural and justified.

Posted by RogerC on (September 15, 2010, 4:39 GMT)

@Rhonald Moses: You asked the most pertinent question. The best XI of India or other teams will never play any match. So, why worry about the balance of the team? The purpose is to identify and acknowledge the contribution of the best 11 players who played for a country. By dividing the selection into 6 sub-groups like openers, fast bowlers etc, the best 11 are not selected. In comparison, when Wisden selected the best 5 players of 20th century, they just selected the best 5 and not based on categories like one batsman, one all-rounder etc..

Posted by Kazzamers on (September 15, 2010, 4:35 GMT)

Incredibly unbelievable for me, Zak was not picked over Srinath; Srinath was great but Zak the LEFT ARMER provides variety and Reverse Swing too. Were the selectors too obsessed with batsmen as to not think even the basics of bowling ??

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 4:35 GMT)

Dear postsituationist on (September 14 2010, 08:25 AM GMT - Since Zaheer is considered one of our best ever, I used Zaheer as a yardstick and compared him with Srinath. All I was trying to say is, If the world thinks Zaheer is so great and if Srinath's record is as good as Zaheer's - why do you think he is mediocre? And while you have been so eloquent in rubbishing my theory - you have not even provided a replacement suggestion.

Posted by arunasd8 on (September 15, 2010, 4:24 GMT)

@@ klobania - I think you are in ur dream world. Come to the reality, be practical just open the cricinfo and see the record book. Pak players are aware that they cant win match againt any country, they knew that they cant get money by playing truly. Thats way they are finding some alternative way like match fixing to earn money. Now u may realise whats the pak players strength is. Atleast now stop cheating and play pure cricket and one keep Indian players as Idol one day your team also will win match. Get Help from Indian team.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 4:00 GMT)

ganguly should be a main player and the captain also he is a legend and the most succesful test captain

Posted by Hindh on (September 15, 2010, 3:46 GMT)

@ pak fans ANy of the indian batsman till no 10 can hit a 100 against the pak bowling and save the match for india from any position that is the kind of depth in this batting line up. No team can even dream of having a line up like this.

Posted by bhudent on (September 15, 2010, 3:46 GMT)

An Indian team without Sourav Ganguly?? Cant really digest. If records are a measure to select someone in this team can anyone fill the space of number 2 (opening pair with sachin)? If records have to speak does anyone have better average or more hundreds and half centuries than dada next to sachin? we shudnt dicredit him based on his performance in last days of his career.if so then sachin was a flop for 3-4 yrs ,but still in team. we shudnt disgrace our own legends. I believe he is the one who brought in that killer instinct in our team which created that desire to win

Posted by coppyshoppy on (September 15, 2010, 3:46 GMT)

Good choice. The only guniune ommission is Lakshman. Some says about the ommission of spin quarter. their argument is that we won all matches because of them. how many matches we that time. the number of wins upto 1995 is equal to last 5 years. so the choise is good.

Posted by Hindh on (September 15, 2010, 3:42 GMT)

This is a very good team , The best batting line up in the world and 3 rd highest wicket taker in kumble and Kapil dev with vinoo mankad and prasanna India has a decent bowling and the best batting in the world. they r gonna win more than they lose and that is what matters. And there r no tainted cricketers as in all time Pak team in this all time X1.

Posted by harshalb on (September 15, 2010, 3:12 GMT)

Disappointed with journalist dominated cricinfo jury. Choosing mediocrity over class and quantity over quality. How else can you have a leg spinner like Kumble in the team who consistently failed on good tracks and leave out a genius like Gupte or even Chandra. Howe can you have Dravid at 3 but eliminate Merchant by slotting him in as an opener and thus eliminating his from the team? Howcan you have Dhoni chosen for his batting in an already strong batting line up and ignore master WKs like Kiri and Engineer? *********** here is my team and it will beat cricinfo team ************* 1.Sunny 2.Saywag 3.Merchant 4.Sacin 5.Hazare 6.Mankadd 7.Farrok 8.Capeel 9.Srinaught 10.Guptay 11.Pras

Posted by RogerC on (September 15, 2010, 2:54 GMT)

The selectors are well qualified people, no doubt. But they seem to be impacted by the pressure of pleasing all sections of public. Hazare over Laxman or Vishwanath is to inform us that quality is better than quantity. Kumble over Chandra is to tell us that quantity is better than quality. It is very strange to see Srinath in the all time XI but there is no place for Bedi or Chandra or Venkat. In the 70s, we won matches without any quality fast bowler, so is it mandatory to have two fast bowlers in the all time XI and deny the place for more talented spinners? The idea of dividing the team into 6 sub-groups has impacted the chance of high achievers and more talented players getting into XI.

Posted by val_vaid on (September 15, 2010, 2:46 GMT)

Great Team...It definitely reflects the performance of india throughout history.

While Kapil, Kumble and Sehwag would try to take india closer to victory, Gavaskar and Dravid would ensure that it ends in a draw.

If by any chance if it becomes a close game then Sachin will lose his wicket at the most crucial point and make sure that India loses....

That's it.... very good team...

Posted by Chatla on (September 15, 2010, 2:24 GMT)

Funny! IT'S A JOKE OF THE CENTURY TO SEE DHONI IN ALL TIME INDIA XI. And one more JOKE IS SOME POPLE ARE EXPECTING DADA IN ALL TIME INDIA XI.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 1:11 GMT)

Whats the point of these XI when they are not gonna play?

Posted by dr_sachinfan_chennai on (September 15, 2010, 1:07 GMT)

@ klobania : Good decision brother. Take care. I can understand that it ll be terrible for a fan like u to read how all ur heros are cheating and comments on how they play. Infact its better ur out of cricinfo until the jokers of PCB and cheaters of Pakistan team are banished. Temme wat abt ur tainted heros : Imran : ball tamperer, Akram & Waqar : Fixers.. Tell just one guy whm u can show ur child as man to follow. By the way before dreaming if beating India now, tell me is there any Cricket being played by Pakistan? It seems like a fixing and more comedy...

Posted by Cobra0077 on (September 15, 2010, 1:06 GMT)

The Most STUPID NOMINEES. Most of the Nominees are geared towards the last 20 odd years. World's Best Wicket Keeper NOT nominated, by the way he was said to be the worlds best by the one most thought to be the worlds best Wally Grout. 2nd best indian keeper Kunderan.KIrmani was the 3 rd keeper after Engineer & Kunderan. Opener: No Dilip Sardesai? but Sidhu. Middle: no Chandu Borde, Umbrigar but Laxman,Vishwanath,M.Amarnath, Vengaskar Allrounder: no Abid Ali,S. Durrani,R.Surti? Fast: No Ramakant Desai? but Srinath Too many spinners but Harbajan, Venkatraghavan, would not qualify. there should have been a special catogery for best fielder: Nominees. Abid Ali, R. Surti, Wadekar, Solkar, Azharuddin: Winner Solkar

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 0:30 GMT)

First of all for voting you need the proper nominees, this is where I have a problem(I really think some of the nominee selection was STUPID):lets take it Category wise: Opening Batsmen: disagree with Novjot Siddhu, no Dilip Sardesai? Middle Order Batsmen: disagree Vishwanath, M.Amarnath, Vengaskar; no Chandu Borde no Umbrigar(i know he's in all rounder he was gavaskars idol). All Rounders: disagree with Dattu Phadkar, Manoj Prabhakar; No Abid Ali, Saleem Durrani, Rusi Surti maybe also Bapu Nadkarni. Wicket Keeper: Disagree with Naren Tamhane, Kiran More, Syed Kirmani(he was 3 rd keeper after Engineer & Kunderan); WORLDS BEST WICKETKEEPER "Farook Engineer", Buddi Kunderan. Fast Bowlers: No Ramakant Desai? Spinners: STRONGLY DISAGREE with Harbajan Singh, Venkatraghavan(he was 4 th behind Bedi, Prassanna & Chandrasekar) Special Cat. Best Fielder: Solkar. The final selection done by vote which 90% were not even born when real test was played, not gilli danda now which is due ODI & T20.

Posted by Nujee on (September 14, 2010, 22:48 GMT)

dada does not need to be in this team, he does not merit a spot!!!

Posted by Born_Smart on (September 14, 2010, 22:43 GMT)

Typical domination of Karnataka & Mumbai players in All Time XI

Posted by purnam_1985 on (September 14, 2010, 22:35 GMT)

Its shocking not to see dada in the list....can anyone imagine an indian team without having dada as captain?? really shocking....we should all remember how he taught india to win overseas....as the best left handed batsman the country has ever seen dada is an automatic choice in Test and ODIs.... And how dare somebody comment derogatorily on dada fans....its absolutely unacceptable to see one of the previous posts where dada fans were called" the most ignorant lot of the cricket lovers"....Is that the way one is supposed to make his point of view???? One should always remember Sourav Ganguly is not only the pride of Bengal....he is a true gem of India... We can always have healthy debate on anyone's selection... but one should not disrespect any cricketer or his fans....I am sure that Cricinfo will make a note of it...

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 22:26 GMT)

Did none of the "selectors" follow cricket when MAK Pataudi shepherded the Indian batting right down to Chandrasherkar (1962-1968) and built winning teams for Wadekar to take over. How can he be left out?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 22:09 GMT)

Ganguly only deserves a place in this team as a captain. Unfortunately cricket does not have the concept of a non-playing captain (maybe, he should coach this team!!)

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 21:26 GMT)

over all the team is evenly balanced .. i think this is the best indian boweling attack .javagal srinath was a genuinely fast bowler india produced ... hats off to him .. dhoni is the easiest choice to make, i dnt think any other good wicket keeper and batsmen has india ever produced , is most destructive whenever india needed ,& he is ready to take the responsibility ...

Posted by mrgupta on (September 14, 2010, 21:19 GMT)

@jigg_p: You don't know anything abt Cricket do you? A WC winning team is not the all time best. For your kind information If Sachin deserves to be kept out because he never won a World Cup then what about Dennis Lille, Alan Donald, Ambrose, Walsh, J.Kallis, S.Pollock, Sir Ian Botham, Sir Hadlee and last but not the least 'Brian Charles Lara'. All these bunch of loosers never Won a World Cup for their teams. Here what we are discussing is not the all time ODI XI but the best team to play the 'Best form of Cricket' - Test Matches, or do you want to leave our Sir Don Bradman and Sir Garfield Sobers from the list of their respective countries as well as they too were never a part of any World Cup winning teams? and please dont say they wud have won had they played. That's hypothetical.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 21:01 GMT)

The worst bowling lineup ever among other all time XI. Averaging 30 ? And strike rate over 60, how the hell Srinath even make All Time XI when he wouldnt even get a place in other team. Courtney Walsh, Ian Bishop, Gilespie, Aaqib Javed and so many people who couldnt make the all-time team or weren't even nominated had better record than him. Even Kapil Dev as all-rounder has 30 avg Bowling.

But no doubt one of the best batting lineup among other alltime XI but not necessarily the best among all. To me, the batting strength is almost same to England, Aus, West Indies and Pak.

Bowling seriously lacks. West Indies has the best fast bowling,they just lacks a quality spinner.

Aus,Eng and Pak makes the best Bowling overall. Even Richard Hadlee's NZ is better than Indian fast bowling. Even Imran Khan as allrounder has 22+ avg in bowling, Sydney Barnes 16+, Ambrose 20+, and so on. Not a single bowler has 25 less average showing the weakness in fast bowling.

Posted by jikh on (September 14, 2010, 20:10 GMT)

where is dada man????? he is the best captain(overall in all sort of cricket),, damn it......

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 19:49 GMT)

Well some Bengalis are crying here like babies but dada does not really deserve to be in the great X1.His average in tests vs good teams like Aus and SA says the entire story.Ofcourse Ii expected it from dada fans as they are the most ignorant lot of the cricket lovers.

Posted by Reyad2009 on (September 14, 2010, 19:48 GMT)

its really shocking to see very very special laxman is missing from the squad...he should be picked at number 6.

Posted by safwan_Umair on (September 14, 2010, 19:42 GMT)

of all the test-elevens selected by ESPN, this indian 11 has one of the best batting line-ups and the weakest of bowling sides ..... srinath and kapil would never make it to most test teams as genuine bowlers, kapil could perhaps play as a batsman for newzealand or bangladesh.

One of the major reasons for India's current status as the NO.1 test team is its superb batsmen, another major reason is a truck-load of tests they play on benign tracks at home.... i wonder how this feared batting line up would perform in a seaming english summer? i vaguely remember it capitulating repeatedly to Bond and co when the bowl swung in NZ.

Posted by Bamarolls on (September 14, 2010, 19:39 GMT)

For all those complaining against the captain of second World Champion cricket team in India, here are the wicket keeping stats - Tests, Innings, catches, stumpings, and for good measure number of Sixes hit while batting. Farokh: 46 - 87 - 66 - 16 - 02. My favorite Kirmani: 88 - 124 - 160 - 38 - 03. My new favorite Dhoni: 46 - 77 - 119 - 20 - 45. An additional good measure to find would have been byes conceded per 100 balls faced. I don't have the resources for that. Clearly, given the measures available, Dhoni has caught more catches per innings and has just as many stumpings as the best. Why are sixes important? Very effective in giving your bowlers additional time to bowl out the opponent.

Posted by klobania on (September 14, 2010, 19:34 GMT)

@ indian fans i know u pple will start commenting abt me as it is very difficult to face the reality anyway if u still want to comment say watever as i m going away for a month n might not join cricinfo for some time have a good time

Posted by bindasXI on (September 14, 2010, 19:33 GMT)

Can I know how Kapil Dev does not fit in team as an allrounder. he is picked in as a fast bowler. Person with 5248 is not a allrounder but a fast bowler who can bat. If Kapil was picked as an allrounder it would have given a chance for extra fast bowler or a spinner. And i think kapil far better than vinod manka.

Posted by klobania on (September 14, 2010, 19:32 GMT)

@ dr_sachinfan_chennai dont worry pak will never fix a match against india as they do not fix matches against second rated teams like india if they do they will easily be caught that how come u pple got out against that bowling attack they r really afraid of indians because if they lose against them(though chances are highly unlikely) they will be questioned not only by indian ruled icc but also by their fans

Posted by klobania on (September 14, 2010, 19:23 GMT)

@ crazy indian fans n particularly arunasd8 and dr_sachin_fan men r u day dreaming or what do u really think with that bowling attack india can get any time twice in test matches n that is too in bouncy wickets forget pak n just apply the same for either zimbabwe n bangla n u will get the answer n as far as u think that second string indian team can beat pak then u on earth ur so called over hyped senior international team is behind in stats as pak has won more matches if u really go for stats of indo-pak games. men just think before commenting here. n as far as match fixing is concerned it hasnt proved yet n bet me will never be proved because if someone frm icc takes it seriously then india will be the first country to face the music as everyone knows where the headoffice of betting n match fixing is located go n enjoy champions league where harbho, tendulkar n zaheer r thrashed by second oh mind u third string australian domestic team

Posted by Bamarolls on (September 14, 2010, 19:19 GMT)

Now, for those who think this team is weak, consider this: all the specialist batsmen made their runs against the other teams - those allegedly consisting of good bowlers and fielders. These bowlers, the Indian bowlers, all of them, have taken 8 to 10 wicket in an innings. They can cut through the WORLD ATXI like hot knife thru butter.

Posted by Bamarolls on (September 14, 2010, 19:17 GMT)

After seeing all the bashing Dhoni has been getting, I have changed my opinion. DHONI should definitely be in, even though Kirmani might have been a better keeper. After Kapil, Dhoni is the ONLY captain to guide his team to be a world champion. India will remain, for ever the first WORLD T20 champion. Very likely, commenters, rooting so viciously against Dhoni are perennial losers and do not like genuine Indian champions.

Posted by Alexk400 on (September 14, 2010, 19:01 GMT)

i started to think cricinfo writers are dimwits and have no clue. I still wonder what is their criteria for picking dhoni (worst test batsman , worst test wicket keeper) in ALL time Indian World XI.

And Srinath was useless bowler. Yes he was faster than kapil but Fast mean nothing when you can't deliver in crunch times.

HORRIBLE INDIAN ALL TIME XI.

Posted by Alexk400 on (September 14, 2010, 18:59 GMT)

I want shoot the guys who did not vote for sehwag and dravid. it is outwright funny how these dimwits allow to select anyone.

Dravid is greatest Test batsman ever produced in the world. Sehwag is greatest opening batsman far better than coward gavaskar.

The reason Srinath and Dhoni in the all time XI is absolutely laughable!.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 18:57 GMT)

@jigg i have no idea wht u r speakin lol bro we r not chkin the limited overs format .......and even if u see tht these guys would be included lol world cup winning doesn't show tht they r legends or not it's a team game.......and here we r speakin abt the test format of the game lol look before u leap into lame statments Amazin pick though ........just hav a slight problem with the wk department ....

Posted by Luke77 on (September 14, 2010, 18:55 GMT)

Dhoni is good, but not great...yet. Perhaps his hasty inclusion is just a little premature. I know that keepers are weighted more so on their batting these days, but one should not underestimate the importance of excellent wicketkeeping. That could be the difference of up to 30 runs a match in the field. Kiran More for this Aussie's money. (Opps, shouldn't mention 'money'around the Pakistanis)

Posted by go_wind on (September 14, 2010, 18:35 GMT)

indias greatest middle order batsman (vvs laxman) has once again been forgotten... your panel of pundits seem to be victims of short term memory loss. laxman single-handedly challenged the greatest team of all time when they were at the peak of their form, and since then he has always come up with match winning innings whenever the team has been in trouble. the last time i read about him he had scored a century on a turning wicket on the the final day of a test match in colombo... how much more must he do before he is taken seriously in his own country.

Posted by arunasd8 on (September 14, 2010, 18:34 GMT)

Sachin, Sehwag, Sunil Gavaskar and Rahul Dravid is more than enough to beat any team in the world. Srinath, Kapil, Kumble are enough to destroy Pak. India is a always dependent on Batsman not bowler. @klobania Dont make such a kiddish statement. Pak is countless infront of India. They cant win against India. Indian Juniot team itself more than enough to beat Pak.

Posted by sourav239183 on (September 14, 2010, 18:27 GMT)

MANY FOOLS HAVE SELECTED SOME FOOLS IN THEIR TEAMT>> IS DHONI A GOOD TEST PLAYER?? HE IS NOT AT ALL FIT TO BE IN THE TEST TEAM>> WINNING MATCHES BY LUCK>> THE DAY IS NOT FAR AWAY FROM HERE TAT HE LL BE REMOVED FROM THE TEAM> MARK MY WORDS.

Posted by agm_ on (September 14, 2010, 18:23 GMT)

Eds, it would be interesting to see how many votes each nominee got (without specifically revealing who each juror picked).

My take on a couple of the more contentious selections: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/462264-my-two-cents-on-the-all-time-indian-test-xi

Posted by dr_sachinfan_chennai on (September 14, 2010, 18:20 GMT)

@ klobania : brother plz do let us all know when ll ur pakistan side play match again. I mean a one not fixed.. Chances low is it? but don worry even if not fixed ur side is anyway going to loose.. So better chose ur next team to follow jus like another home in england which says no more to ur pakistan side.. Hope ur pakistani .. now don sya ur not and jus a fan of the team.. @ cricinfo : can u post this...

Lastly team selection good except for lax/Vishy in place of Hazarae. Dada despite being a hero is not in same class as his 2 peers SRT and RD and much below Lax..

Posted by AnveshReddy403 on (September 14, 2010, 17:51 GMT)

no! where is dada? dhoni should not be there. he dont deserve it..

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 17:50 GMT)

this may be the best combination. vijay hajare is the best batsman in 1950s.and average of 47 indicate this. similarly mankad is best before kapil as a allrounder spot. so it gives variety in the team as batting and bowling are concerned. he can also open for india and can bowl 50 overs in an inning with good economy rate. so he is an anonymous choice. i am pleased to see the team combination. threeworld class spinners. 4 rocking batsman 1 great batsman wktkeeper 2 world class allrounders 1medium pacer(hazare) and two fasters. all can come in a single team. a team which has great bowling side. this team can bowl 200 overs without tiredness. and the captain of this team is anil kumble with dhoni is deputy. in test kumble is the right choice. see perth test is the best example

Posted by klobania on (September 14, 2010, 17:23 GMT)

@ narenvs i think u must atleast think before commenting here u r calling this team better than pak all time XI man tell me how can a team without any geniune paceman can win any test matches or one dayers i think u r too young or too naive abt pak cricket or else u have never commented that pak team comprises of wasim, waqar, imran khan all were great bowlers infact far better bowling attack than anyother team in the world

Posted by Yorker_ToeCrusher on (September 14, 2010, 17:22 GMT)

Contrary to many fans opinion that this indian team looks week,I would say this is the strongest all time X| of any test playing nation.Though the bowling is as strong as the WI or Australian alltime line up,this extraordinary batting lineup consisting on Sehwag,gavaskar,dravid,Tendulkar etc is good enough to compensate the bowling deficiencies. A team which cannot guarentee a place for VVS must be strong.I dont think any of the all time bowling line up would say 'lets run through the top order',they would most probably have a dull day at office too often! -sreekanth

Posted by jigg_p on (September 14, 2010, 17:18 GMT)

This article should be no brainer. All 1983 world cup winning team should be India's all time Xi. People want to say whatever but at the end winning matters. If India cannot win any single game, will all these so called cricket lovers keep watching cricket? Tendulkar, Dravid and all in this era players are talented but they are not winners. They are playing since 1990 and they haven't found a way to win single world cup. Winners always find a way to get the job done. Some argue that Tendulkar never got best team around him but superstars not only play better they also make their teammates better. They got enogh time to (20 years) to do it. Kick them out, give others chance who can execute winning strategy.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 17:14 GMT)

Dada Dada Dada!!!! What are his figures in Tests!!! Guys this is a Test XI. He does not qualify above any of these guys here as a batsman. does he?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 17:13 GMT)

Where is Saurav Ganguly man?? He deserves it!

Posted by Jahaji on (September 14, 2010, 17:09 GMT)

Among the probables, the Dada and Sachin are far more better openers. Its started from them for India to bang the bowlers in restricted fielding overs. Viru is an obvious choice though, Pajji can still be considered. But how many times Sunil Gavasker and Vijay Merchant became a part of 200+ runs opening partnership? Its not the record but consistency speaks. But we are duffers and always follow influence and emotions and hence is the case we celebrate with lone Olympic Gold in individual event with a population more than 110 crores.

Posted by deepaksam on (September 14, 2010, 17:04 GMT)

Dhonis away test average is 37...Take away the 148 vs Pakistan(where there were 6 centuries and 4 near centuries), 89 and 51 vs Bangladesh and 76 vs Sri Lanka...Dhoni has not done anything big. Kirmanis keeping skills were far superior to Dhoni and also he was a valiant cricketer. So there is an error here. Also dropping GRV is questionable. Cannot justify his dropping. But for Vishy and Kiri - the selection is perfect.Am sure my cricket mentor R Mohan will agree to this:) And to all the 'dada' fans. Be happy he was nominated.

Posted by Engle on (September 14, 2010, 16:46 GMT)

Of all the AT teams of the World, the one that is the most timid is India. Which is why the selection of a strong captain is imperative. Remember, you're going to be up against the most fiercest competition. Consider too, that the game is not only about runs, wickets and catches. There has to be leadership. There is only one person who could provide a backbone that will bind the team and stand up to the opposition. Being a LH bat provides additional variety. No point for guessing who this is.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 16:45 GMT)

A HUGE LET DOWN.WAS THIS TEAM SELECTED TO WIN A TEST MATCH ?.THE BATSMAN WILL MAKE ALL THE RUNS,BUT WHO WILL BE TAKING THOSE 20 WICKETS?THIS BOWLING LINE UP DOES NOT INSPIRE ANY CONFIDENCE .

A MUCH BETTER(IN FACT THE BEST )CHOICE WOULD HAVE BEEN 1.KAPIL(PLAYING AT NO 6 AS AN ALLROUNDER) 2.SRINATH(DUE TO HIS GOOD HOME RECORD(HE AVERAGES 27 AT HOME)) 3.ZAHEER(TO LEND VARIETY TO THE ATTACK) 4.KUMBLE(INDIA'S BIGGEST MATCHWINNER) 5.CHANDRASHEKAR(A MAVERICK LIKE HIM IN THE TEAM REALLY HELPS)

SEHWAG,GAVASKAR,DRAVID,SACHIN,HAZARE,KAPIL,DHONI,KUMBLE,SRINATH, ZAHEER,CHANDRASHEKAR.

NOW THIS LOOKS LIKE A TEAM

Posted by sbkalgi on (September 14, 2010, 16:40 GMT)

If DADA was kinda good Captain, then why KKR is at bottom of every IPL season? Good captain needs good player to win matches. Its only when good players are around captain can marshel his moves, which DADA was good at. DADA certainly has best brain but he was average player. He was fortunate to have SRT, RD, AK, VVS at their peak form and thier performance made DADA a great Captain.

Also I guess, Sanjay Manjrekar will be one of those who voted against RD in jury panel. I guess RD was the reason why SM was shown gate.

Posted by nataraajds on (September 14, 2010, 16:37 GMT)

it's hard to believe that Vishey is not in the XI,, Vishey is greater than Hazere & VVS in all aspects of the game.. otherwise the selection is great.

Posted by waspsting on (September 14, 2010, 16:36 GMT)

@MiddleStump... agree with your assessment of spin - Gupte would have been on my list. @LeftBrain... what you say about Indian pace attack is true, though Kapil obviously has to be in the Indian 11. Srinath's selection i'm less sure about. Wally Hammond reckoned Amir Singh a candidate for a world eleven, and he was a decent bat to boot. I'd have had him over Srinath (who wasn't a bad bowler, but hardly a great one).

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 16:28 GMT)

DADA where r u. u? u should have come instead of Vinoo Mankad... plz change it plz...

Posted by eZoha on (September 14, 2010, 16:26 GMT)

Bring VVS in place of Hazare. And Kirmani in place of Dhoni. Batting line-up is already strong, no need for a more-of-a-batsman-and-less-of-a-wicketkeeper like MS. Not a balanced side anyway. Bowling department looks pathetic, won't be able to bowl out other all-time XI on most occasions.

Posted by Abhranil on (September 14, 2010, 16:25 GMT)

Wat a joke...Engineer not even in the nominees list and Tamhane is???Dhoni in the all-time XI when he hasnt even reached the mid point of his career???Hazare picked ahead of the likes of Vishy/Azhar/Pataudi/Ganguly????And the funniest of all Srinath is going to open the bowling instead of Nissar???....Its biasness and imbecility at its supreme best...hats off to the wit and ignorance of the selectors....Go save this Indian team..........

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 16:18 GMT)

Completely against Azhar being in the XI he doesn't deserve it. Case in point: Report from the match fixing scandal in 2000.

"The evidence against Azharuddin, which is discussed next, clearly establishes that he took money from bookies/punters to fix cricket matches and also the fact that the underworld had approached him to fix matches for them." Then he admitted to fixing three ODI matches [3], and this led the BCCI to ban him from the game of cricket for life."

If he is one of the best India can provide... we have bigger problems.

Posted by pchats_2000 on (September 14, 2010, 15:59 GMT)

Few thoughts: 1. Selection Committee should have been more accomplished. 2. Javagal Srinath just because he has more wickets? There are very few people alive who have seen Mohd. Nissar bowl, after all he was considered tha fastest bowler during his time. Surprising no one even mentions him. 3. Some esteemed readers think that Vinoo Mankad should be omitted. I was lucky enough to meet the great man while he was coaching his wards, even at that age he had great control and spinning ability, for that matter ask Dilip Vensarkar who was trining under him then. 4.Why was Farokh Engineer not even in the shortlist, Cricinfo screwed up big time. 5.This team has great batsmen why not a proper keeper in Kirmani then. 6.Though there is no doubt about Sunny/Veeru combination, but the great Vijay Merchant must have missed out by a whisker. GIST: Dhoini & Srinath out, Nissar & Kirmani in

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 15:51 GMT)

Where is DADA?????????????????He is the one who made the now called ''TEAM INDIA''. One of the highest run getters.....made an inspiring and remarkable comeback ('no one came back as strongly as him in INDIA')............the first captain who showed the Dadagiri of India to Australia,England...................

Posted by narenvs on (September 14, 2010, 15:48 GMT)

The choice of Dhoni over Engineer and Kirmani is poor, and reflects the recent tendency, influenced by the predominance of the one-day game, to place too much weight on a wicketkeeper's batting. Even then, Engineer was at least as good a test bat as Dhoni, and a much better keeper; and Kirmani a much better keeper who was only a step behind Dhoni as a bat. I picked Laxman and Gupte rather than Hazare and Kumble, but don't feel strongly about those choices. This team is a little weaker than South Africa, better than Pakistan, much weaker than Australia, England and West Indies, and much better than New Zealand and Sri Lanka.

Posted by Sheela on (September 14, 2010, 15:44 GMT)

It is really sad to see Hazare"s name being included in all time Indian greats. Hazare was never interested in Indian team winning a Test. Solid examples are the last Test against West Indies at Bombay after the war and his failure to take control in the New Delhi Test against second or lower string Nigel Howard's England team. Do these performances give greatness to a batsmen unless the views of such experts are not related to facts.

Posted by Asbah on (September 14, 2010, 15:41 GMT)

Azhar or VVS... all time XI needed atleast one of them at no. 5

Posted by LeftBrain on (September 14, 2010, 15:39 GMT)

Well well well, look at this bowling line-up, and this is an all time great eleven!!! Likes of Kapel and Srinath who can not even make to World eleven of their own generation are in all-time eleven!! Clearly shows the third class quality of pacers India produced in last 60 years.

Posted by Moglie on (September 14, 2010, 15:39 GMT)

its india's all time XI and not to forget india has never produced a very good good fast bowler so i guess experts had no choice othr tha srinath to complement kapil... i think its a wise choice... the team is really balanced and the cries of dhoni from some anti dhoni's is jus unacceptable...india has not produced a better wicketkeeper batsman than dhoni till date... and ganguly stands no chance in front of such a deadly combination of battin which has been chosen... congrats...

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 15:37 GMT)

VVS laxman India's one of the finest Test batsman didn't get a place in the final all time india's Test XI .. I find this absurd...

Posted by patia on (September 14, 2010, 15:36 GMT)

These lists or teams of all time greats are the hand work of sponsors, be it foot ball or cricket or tennis, other wise how come Dhoni and few others get included in it.It's money power man money power.These ex-cricketers are mostly unemployed and have dirty brains so they talk and do all sorts of jokes and get paid for it.And we fools read it and comment.

Posted by MiddleStump on (September 14, 2010, 15:32 GMT)

Baffling to an old hand like myself who has seen 9 of the all time XI play for long periods, many at test and first class levels. Young readers can be forgiven, but how many nominees has Sanjay Manjrekar seen in action? How did guys like Mohan get to be selectors? Hazare over Amarnath/Laxman is a marginal decision. It is a joke to select Srinath. Though pathetic in the field, Prasanna was a very good spinner no doubt, but he struggled for a place in the team during his time and major series wins abroad were achieved with Venkat anyway. Now he is selected in an all time XI! .Gupte and Chandra are the best leggies of their kind. By selecting 3 bowlers from Karnataka but not Chandra, the selection sends a message that he at most would rank as 4th best from that state! Even with averages comparable to Warne from an era with less batting and out field support. Except for the top four in the batting order and Kapil Dev, every other selection is dubious. It is a side selected by imbeciles.

Posted by Moglie on (September 14, 2010, 15:30 GMT)

Mr. rajesh kosana u mean to say dhoni shud replaced wid ganguly and u ll keeping the wickets...

Posted by Farce-Follower on (September 14, 2010, 15:25 GMT)

One Good. One Bad...The Good : Sentimentality did not prevail, so there is no Dada (though undoubtedly talented). The Bad : MSD. Batter he may be, but one helluva lousy wicketkeeper. Kumble and Prasanna will have atleast one stumping and one catch getting fluffed every match. Kirmani would have been great.

Posted by vinvin2210 on (September 14, 2010, 15:18 GMT)

Amar Singh & VVS Laxman could have deserved a place ahead of Srinath and Hazare/Mankad respectively...

To all those Ganguly fans.. Please.. you are just being melodramatic.. Ganguly had at his disposal, the cricketers who had survived the match fixing ordeal - that means their integrity was beyond question: Dravid, Sachin, Kumble n Srinath... No match fixers in his team. Hence, India started playing to win - instead of throwing matches away...He was a good captain, not a great player..

Kumble, by virtue of his demeanor and 'aggressiveness without boorishness' displayed during the Australia series seems to be the most logical choice to lead this side..

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 15:18 GMT)

Dhoni should not be der.....never..never..never..

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 15:10 GMT)

THE CAPTION IS MISSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DADA SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE TEAM

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 15:08 GMT)

Dhoni is a comic character in the side.. He even does not know what senior players mean to any team and he was even against Sachin! I really wonder how people that easily forget India's most successful captain Sourav.. @palimanku: What about Laxman.. is he that much consistent and successful with each and every team? Don't show your callous anger attitude here in this good cause of selecting India's best players.. You draw KKR here? Are you a crazy guy? Sehwag, Harbhajan, Zaheer, even stupid Yuvraj, they all came in the team only for Sourav.. Man I think you are a kind of brain washed guy, ehh?? :) Gute besserung!

Posted by achughtai on (September 14, 2010, 15:07 GMT)

A weak team, won't have a chance against most 'all time' teams from other countries.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 15:06 GMT)

how come in the wicket keeper group the worlds best @ that time(Farook Engineer) as per Wally Grout name is not even included Naren Tamhane, Kiran More, Syed Kirmani, Nayan Mongia better? Kirmani was the 4 choice @ that time. As an opener was Sidhu better than Sardesai? As a fast bowler Javagal Srinath, Mohammad Nissar, Amar Singh are they all better than Ramakanth Desai? Saleem Durrani not included as a all rounder? In middle order nomination Laxman, Vishwanath & Amarnath do not deserve a nomination.

Posted by sarmas on (September 14, 2010, 15:06 GMT)

DHONI Has figured in the Indian team only for the past 4 years and his inclusion in the alltime great eleven is bewildering.A briliant wicket keeper,and gutsy batter Kirmani should have got the nod ahead of Dhoni.I dont know much about Vijay Hazare.Maybe, a classy match winner , V.V.S.Laxman could have got a berth.On the whole the alltime great team is impresive

Posted by ani. on (September 14, 2010, 15:04 GMT)

no major surprises in the team selection ..may be laxman at 5 very strong batting line up

Posted by mrgupta on (September 14, 2010, 15:04 GMT)

@BoonBoom: You talk about Club XI, I hope you know that Javagal Srinath has 551 international wickets with his best bowling performance in Test coming against Pakistan. It was his bad luck that he had a weak bowling unit with him with no good fast bowlers to partner with. If he had played with Kapil both in their prime then their record wud have been far better. I would say for someone who has 200+ test and 500+ international wickets he deserves more respect than you have given him. It wud be interesting to see, with recent developments, if anyone of Akhtar, Asif or Amir will ever get to these numbers.

Posted by Overspin on (September 14, 2010, 15:04 GMT)

@aafe - if that were so...india wouldnt be beating these teams even now but we are, arent we? anyway, kapil at his peak was unplayable and srinath is one of the most underrated international bowlers ever...and unlucky too.....and hey i think dhoni deserves to be there surely .. hes very handy with the bat and has worked hard on his keeping as well...

Posted by montys_muse on (September 14, 2010, 15:02 GMT)

I think there is one batsman too many. Could have gone with either Chandra or Bedi instead of Vinoo, or Kirmani for Dhoni. But no harm in having an extra batsman. Would have loved to see Lax in the side as well.

Posted by Sagiavi on (September 14, 2010, 15:01 GMT)

My Indian XI:Sunil Gavaskar best defence,Virender sehwag-best offence,Dilip Vengsarkar-best one down player of pace n spin hook n pull n drive,Sachin-unanimous choice with born talent,vijay hazare-gre8 player of tht era,Mohinder amarnath-underrated indian player with lot of talent,Kapil dev-our captain aggresive bat n bowl,Dhoni-bat n keep,Zaheer khan he comes under the category of fast bowler,Prassana spin with variety,Anil Kumble-Best Name in world map as indian spinner. Rahul if he is so good why he is nt there in 50-50 when he has nt retired he is exceptionally good though,srinath was quick bt can;t be all time gre8.zaheer is still around when he leave he will prove his mettle.

Posted by ultrasnow on (September 14, 2010, 15:01 GMT)

Why is Mohammad Azharuddin in the list of probables? So he can sell his teammates and country?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:53 GMT)

dada is missingggggggggggggggggg

Posted by aaditya4u on (September 14, 2010, 14:50 GMT)

I don't think Dhoni deserves to be in all time TEST XI... See his record, You all will come to know... See his TEST record and decide ... http://www.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/28081.html

Sayyed kirmani shd hv been thr instead of dhoni..... AS A KEEPER !.. And DADA shd be thr as a captain !!

Posted by mrgupta on (September 14, 2010, 14:49 GMT)

@aafe: Thats really funny, yours is the most ridiculous comment i have ever read. This All time Indian XI cannot beat current Aus, SA or "Pak". What a joke!! England's no.9 scored 160+ against Pak bowling, and their batting collapsed for under 100 several times in last few months. You know what is the ranking of current Pak team? Go and find out first then comment here. And for Aussies and SA the current Indian team has beaten them both is last few years in both Home and Away test and if not for controversial Sydney test Aussies wud have lost the series at home and they got 2-0 hammering last time they played us in India. SA failed to force a draw let alone win the 2nd test with several India key players missing and our current top bowler Zaheer injured on the last day. SA and Aus cudnt play Bhajji, Mishra or Ishant and you talk about playing against Kapil, Srinath, Kumble and Prasanna? Do you even know anything about Cricket?

Posted by crikkfan on (September 14, 2010, 14:49 GMT)

Wonder who the captain is - Gavasakar or Kapil or Dravid or Dhoni? I am assuming definitely not Sachin as he does not have a good record of captaincy. My preference would be Kapil or Dhoni - preferably Kapil.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:48 GMT)

The name of DHONI as a wicketkeeper in All Time Great xi is simply foolish.He is not a world class player .The entire range of cricket players since 1990 is sub standard .The game has become absolutely BATSMEN friendly.There were only 2 true batsmen of true class.Tendulkar and Lara. I also feel extremely sorry over Engineer,Kirmany,Gupte,Bedi and Amarsingh and Nissar.I would have select Nisar and Gupte in my side. dr.shrikant.desai

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:42 GMT)

For people criticizing ganguly.. he made the team.. just individual performances dont work.. he got the team united.. n supported the youngsters who were right for the team.. its not easy to be the most successful captain.. he had the passion.. and as if he has never performed.. scoring more than 11000 runs in odi and 7000 in tests is not a joke.. n ganguly and tendulkar were considered the best opening pair of the gamwe.. so get ur facts right.. calling him dumb just proves how dumb the guy is.. i dont think u have any understandin in cricket.. just clarify.. how was he dumb against aussies? get ur facts rite..

Posted by scorpiorawat on (September 14, 2010, 14:40 GMT)

haha..ganguly in all time XI get some cricketing basics ppl..

Posted by brahan95 on (September 14, 2010, 14:28 GMT)

Dhoni has not proved himself in test matches , Syed Kirmani may be a better option. The rest of the team is fine.Only problem is that it misses Laxman and Ganguly.

Posted by SpeedCricketThrills on (September 14, 2010, 14:26 GMT)

Could someone please explain the objective of naming these kinds of All Time XI every few months? So 10 such agencies (all equally credible) will come up with 10 different XIs (with some common names). How about the "most popular" of these All Time XIs? ...just kidding!

What next? Do they get a cheque for being nominated/selected?

Posted by Francis.Jerome on (September 14, 2010, 14:20 GMT)

When you see the this list of players sure there is feeling that this is not the correct one.People who saw players like Kirmani,Kiran[ they were far better than one who slected here in this list].Kirmani was good in batting considering the bowling he faced at his time.Dhoni is good player and good leader.But one has to remeber that cricket team game if team is not doing good then what can a caption do.

Posted by vatshy on (September 14, 2010, 14:20 GMT)

I am appalled at the knowledge of people commenting about Dhoni's selection over Dada. As if Dada is a wicket keeper. And tell me who Ganguly would have replaced of the chosen batsmen. Those left out include Laxman and Vishy who are way better than Dada. One cannot get place just because of his leading abilities. While Srinath is clearly light when compared to McGrath and Lillee he is much better than what some are labeling him. In Indian conditions even the likes of McGrath and Imran can struggle. And on pitches abroad Srinagh was incisive in his later years. Remember his 1996-97 season in England and South Africa. South Africa had a very strong batting line up in those days. However, I believe Zaheer would have been better choice because of him being a good bowler against tailenders and also being a left armer he would add variety to this attack.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:18 GMT)

DADA missing... :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Posted by WinnerXIII on (September 14, 2010, 14:18 GMT)

MSD got selected ahead of the likes of Farokh Engineer and Syed Kirmani only because of so called superior batting. My question to the selectors is, does this guy know how to hold the bat properly? Batting does not mean to hit every ball with all the strengths but it means to judge every ball according to the merits. As far as I remember, I have not seen Dhoni playing an eye catching innings in tests. His selection to this all time XI is actually a disgrace to the remaining ten. Once again I feel, VVS Laxman or BS Bedi would have formed a better composition.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:16 GMT)

did I actually read Dhoni and stylish together? Talking abt oxymoron

Posted by Alexk400 on (September 14, 2010, 14:15 GMT)

who ever selected this team are IDIOTS. Dhoni is horrible batsman and bad wicket keeper. Great captain thoiugh. But he is not fit in that team.

first 4 is ok + kapil dev,

Srinath is worst choice. Should have selected another spinner.

It is just show you india can't find a good fast bowler after kapil dev with all the money they got.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:15 GMT)

why.............. DHONI???????

Posted by avis1001 on (September 14, 2010, 14:15 GMT)

ok they are all great!!! But don't always look at this hypothetical team which never plays. let us focus on the younger players who will be ones to play in future.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:14 GMT)

for all it seemed to be the most balaced side ,but as already discuss by few of my friends in there comments tht they miss ganguly in the side ,as we already know tht he done a lot for the indian criket and he wasthe one bcoz of whom our team is on the top spots in one day and test criket, he was the one who take the initaitive to took young guns in indian team ,and make it the trendz for others to follow his success path,so ti is really unfair not to include in the team..... in my point of view he must be included in the team.............

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:13 GMT)

SOURAV GANGULY should be IN...

Posted by cricketaholic on (September 14, 2010, 14:12 GMT)

Dhoni's keeping is questionable, kirmani/mongia would have been a better option because with the presence of Kapil,the batting is already quite formidable....and how could juries keep aside Ganguly? He has proved his worth both as batsman and captain again and again.

Posted by testreject on (September 14, 2010, 14:11 GMT)

azharuddin &/or ganguly and zaheer should have been a part of this. poor selection i must say.

Posted by cricsans on (September 14, 2010, 14:10 GMT)

I'd any day open the bowling with BS Chandrasekhar than Javagal Srinath. BS actually stunned Richards with a quick bouncer. Clearly remember Border giving Srinath the charge and pulling him for fours... says a lot. As for the two failed commentators on the jury, go play some other game. CricInfo should think more in terms of cricket and less Disney.

I am not too surprised that Disney and Cow Belt India are very similar.

Posted by Ganhoni on (September 14, 2010, 14:09 GMT)

My XI: Sunil Gavaskar, Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly, Vinoo Mankad, Kapil Dev, MS Dhoni, Anil Kumble, Javagal Srinath, Zaheer Khan..

You need a Ganguly to lift the India team. I am sorry but we were quite down in the dumps before Ganguly took over as captain. We weren't the best side in the world when we won the WC in 1983. We were never the best side in the world. The campaign that Ganguly started has taken India closer to that status so we should give him his due. We had class but not much results before him. I go with 3 fast bowlers before Ganguly would have done that. He obviously would captain this side with Dhoni as his deputy.

Posted by ProdigyA on (September 14, 2010, 14:08 GMT)

Im more worried about the current XI that would represent India in the world cup and sadly the picture is not so rosy. I strongly believe that this is one of the best opportunities since 1996 and 2003 to win the world cup cause of the home conditions and majority of the senior players still in the side. But the major concern is the new breeds of both bowlers and batsmen. Until we get that fixed ASAP its gonna be a tough ride in the world cup. Coming back to the current topic, which im not really interested in basking in past glory, i think Dhoni's choice is a fair call and ppl feeling mad about Dada not being included, com'on guyz, i like him too but he is a very selfish person.

Posted by TwitterJitter on (September 14, 2010, 14:07 GMT)

Good selection overall. Azharuddin should be no where in any Indian list. He has disgraced himself. The cricketing records of Azhar, Jadeja, and Prabhakar should be expunged from Indian cricket records. It is a shame that a few are even suggesting his name. When you tolerate corruption you breed more corruption. I don't want Indians giving excuses for their corrupt players like some Pakistanis on these boards argue. The first step towards eliminating a problem like corruption is to weed out corrupt players and completely erase any of their cricketing performances. It does not matter if he is a good cricketer or an average one. They should not be in any Indian list showing praiseworthy accomplishments.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:06 GMT)

sad to see as azhar's name not include in any of jury's list he was a class act!!!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:06 GMT)

Its said that people forget everything and everyone who has done good.Good Heavens,I urge these persons not to forget our freedom fighters.anyways,the team is well balanced.its said that dhoni has been picked up for his bat n some keeping behind the wickets.well,its been just 5/6 odd years he's been to the side n his midas touch has started waning.All the greats in the squad have had their own share of ups n downs in the career and i feel its too early to judge dhoni as a captian,keeper and a batsman.personally i thought some other could be there in his place.Being a dada fan i could suggest him but there are many other all time legends but not dhoni. But one thing i am proud of is many of the greats in the world will be from this particular list of nominees if u prepare a world 30 member squad in both forms of the game

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:04 GMT)

I am bangladeshi, I think to make the side even robust you needed a solid wk like kirmani. The team does not need another batsmen, looking the the lineup before him, it's overkill. I have respect for sri-nath as a bowler and as a gentlemen, remember his opening spell in 1997 wc semi final in eden gardens, almost single handedly collasped srilankan top order. even than I would have hoped there are better bowlers than him for all time eleven. Ganguly should have been there one way or other.My opinion not as a fellow bangali, he turned the team 180 from being too silent to a bunch of fighters.

Posted by zharfityan on (September 14, 2010, 14:04 GMT)

what ravi shastri not even in the short list ?

Posted by Srinath. on (September 14, 2010, 14:02 GMT)

A good job done by the jury...most difficult part was to select the spinners...unlucky for some of them(chandrasekhar,bedi) to be not included...srinath comes after kapil..so he should be in...i would have preferred vvs instead of hazare...MSD is better than d other keepers...so a briiliant all-india XI...

Posted by john_paul on (September 14, 2010, 14:02 GMT)

True Rahul Dravid is great but Gundappa Vishvanath is greater. Vishy should have been in the team. Its a pity we have to select only two spinners. We have such illustrious bunch of spinners.

Posted by cricsans on (September 14, 2010, 14:01 GMT)

The Jury must be shot. Sorry, Hang them first. Bunch of jokers.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 14:01 GMT)

HOW ON EARTH DID VIRENDER SEHWAG GET IT THERE BEFORE GANGULY????

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:59 GMT)

Dhoni submission is very much acceptable. No other wicket keeper have the batting ability like Dhoni. But VVS should be in middle order for me b'coz of his performances against the big guns like Australia. Sorry didn't know much about Hazzare. What ur opinion guys

Posted by Faraz_Baig_AusFan on (September 14, 2010, 13:58 GMT)

Disappointed. Why Dhoni!!! for his batting...oh oh, you have the likes of the top order n middle order with huge names, don't need the keeper to bat, have a better 'keeper' instead. No Bedi!!!!!!! n Kapil, Prasanna, Kumble, Bedi, Srinath is better a bowling 'attack' than Kapil, Prasanna, Kumble, Mankad, Srinath

Posted by MarcJV on (September 14, 2010, 13:57 GMT)

Dhoni in the INDIAN ALL TIME BEST XI, the jury must be crazy. seems like an biased selection... Apart from Manjrekar who has around 5000 runs in tests the others like Arun lal who does not even have a century to his name in test cricket, Vasu Paranjape who didn't even represent the country in tests selecting the BEST XI TEST TEAM - WHAT A JOKE. for me the first thing is to get the BEST/CAPABLE/ESTABLISHED PLAYERS as JURY for picking a BEST TEAM for a COUNTRY..

BUT THIS SELECTION PANEL. ho ho... & DHONI in ALL TIME TEST XI... HA HA HA

Posted by funsuk on (September 14, 2010, 13:53 GMT)

I dont see Mohammad Azharuddin. He deserve his spot in too.

Posted by Bamarolls on (September 14, 2010, 13:53 GMT)

I can support the team except for a couple of tweaks. How could the first double centurion of the country be left out? Along with holding the record for most test centuries for the country for a long time, Polly Umrigar knew how to win. IMHO, Zaheer would have been a better partner for Kapil. I will not complain against Dhoni for Kirmani any more. What if you needed to rain sixes, who would you call. BTW, which other team averages more sixes?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:52 GMT)

my selection for playing ATX1 is 1. Sunil Gavaskar, 2.Virender Sehwag, 3.Rahul Dravid, 4.Sachin Tendulkar,5. Vijay Hazare,6. saurabh ganguly,7. Kapil Dev, 8.Syed kirmani,9. Anil Kumble, 10.Javagal Srinath/Manoj prabhakar,11.Bhagwath chandrashekhar.

Posted by shakir23 on (September 14, 2010, 13:49 GMT)

Isnt it appalling that after kapil dev there isnt any world class fast bowler out of india? The inclusion of javagal srinath reitrates my point. He was picked bcoz we didnt have any alternatives.

Posted by pankajkumarsingh on (September 14, 2010, 13:49 GMT)

And I really am surprised no. of people questioning Dhoni's position. Yes, agreed.. Dhoni is a shade behind Kirmari as far as genuine wicket keeping is concerned. But Dhoni has done good enough job behind the wickets. What people fail to acknowledge is - He has been the best batsman (for One-Day anyway) for 2 yrs in a row. He has done very good in test matches too. How many Kirmani innings do you recall? I am 43 and I have seen both Kirmani and Dhoni. I would pick Dhoni anyday just because he is a good enough wicket keeper and in the recent past has won a lot more games as a wicketkeeper batsman - probably only second to Adam Gilchrist.

Posted by RajaNila on (September 14, 2010, 13:48 GMT)

Ganguly certainly has no place here. Wonder why so many people are crying foul over this! If HAZARE could make the team based on his performance in just eight innings, what wrong did AMAR SINGH or NISSAR do? Both of them were better bowlers than Srinath. Also, Amar Singh was a much better batsman than Srinath. KIRMANI is a far better keeper of spin than Dhoni is. The selection of Prasanna over GUPTE, BEDI and CHANDRA is also dubious.

Posted by hell_boys on (September 14, 2010, 13:47 GMT)

ganguly is a Loser as he is the most SELFISH player ever in INdian side

Posted by msdfansin on (September 14, 2010, 13:47 GMT)

hi all the fellow dhoni haters why do u people are thinking that dhoni is inefficient in tests think of england test series victory with out dhoni's contribution in first test to draw the match, that too in his early days of test cricket.......

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:46 GMT)

A few of the things in this selection like excluding Ganguli and Laxman and inclusion of Dhoni made me upset. When it comes to captaincy, no one can beat Ganguli. His batting performance in tests too is impressive. For any Indian squad, no one can be a better captain that Ganguli.

Laxman is undisputed match winner who has the capability to handle any kind of bowling attack anywhere in the world. He has proved it many times. Without him every Indian test squad is incomplete.

Inclusion of Dhoni is the most surprising. How come he is a better batsman? Except a few knocks during initial days of career, he never delivered match winning performance. As a keeper he hasn't proved his worth to the team yet. Both Kirmani and More was a better option. More was also a good batsman. In Tests wicket keeper has a more influential role, and Dhoni couldn't do justice with wicketkeeping pressure in Tests. I can't include stats here due to character limits. Bt he don't deserve a place in All Time XI.

Posted by sweetspot on (September 14, 2010, 13:44 GMT)

Dhoni would be captain too, in my opinion. Even the most statistically minded would agree he is the best choice. This is a list of 11, not 111. So shut up already about Pathan and Jadeja and the also rans, please! This team doesn't have any rank weaknesses, and will be almost impossible to get out twice.

Posted by A.Raz on (September 14, 2010, 13:43 GMT)

Dhoni ?????????????? Whr is Ganguli & Azhar c their records

Posted by pankajkumarsingh on (September 14, 2010, 13:42 GMT)

This is more-or-less a good 11. I would've gone with Dada instead of Laxman (just because he brought in the 'bad boy" inside us. India needed that aggression. How many stood up against the Aussie Baddies... Dada did. Having said that - Dada did have to prove a lot as a batsman. And.... Zaheer Khan instead of Vinoo Mankad. So what if there are 2 spinners and 3 fast bowlers.

Posted by Er-.S.R.shankar on (September 14, 2010, 13:42 GMT)

My selection submitted earlier had 9 correct out of final 11listed. The exception being Vishwanath in place of Hazare which is a difficult final choice. But Dhoni is yet to prove the calibre to be included in final eleven Kirmani is way ahead particularly in crisis and in the context of quality pace bowling he faced while batting or quality of spinners while keeping wickets....Any way it is very near fair choice of final XI

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:37 GMT)

Who cares about selection panel which included baised Sanjay Manjrekar, Arun Lal, Vasu Paranjape, Pradeep Magazine, Ayaz Memon and Ramachandra Guha.

1 billion Indians picked their All time XI: Sunil Gavaskar, Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, VVS Laxman, Vinoo Mankad, Kapil Dev, MS Dhoni, Anil Kumble, Javagal Srinath, Erapalli Prasanna

Posted by tezaab on (September 14, 2010, 13:34 GMT)

@talenthunt1947----poor poor comment....Azhar is a suspected fixer. He has been suspended. And you support him? Thats very bad. And yes, his name should not even be considered, such people and also manoj prabhakar, jadeja etc are anti-national. forget them. And please dont talk of an anti-muslim bias. I am sure you are a Pakistani----no Indian muslim will ever post such a comment. India doesnt beleive in such things, unlike our neighbours

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:32 GMT)

why every time sourav is undermined.... what the dhoni has done... sourav is better than dhoni ... . a batsman who has scored 19000 international runs and taken 150 wkts is ignored.. sourav is best after sachin he should be included.. an why dravid?.....see his current form from last 3 year dravid is not what he was.. bring back dada

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:32 GMT)

Sunil Gavaskar and Rahul Dravid is in the same team!!!.. I wonder if they are in peak form, they both can themselves bat for all 5 days scoring 250 runs in the score board (248 runs would have been already scored by sehwag)..... I feel this is the deadliest combinations for all pace bowlers across world (Especially those guys running more than 20 yards to bowl)

Posted by shakir23 on (September 14, 2010, 13:31 GMT)

Real shame dhoni was chosen over the likes of farookh engineer. "He was choosen for his superior batting", are you kidding me? He has gone from bad to worse. His strike rate is about 50 in recent matches and india has lost many odi's due to slow batting my dhoni. Shame that rahul dravid chosen over m k pataudi. Also a real shame the ultra defensive and ultra negative sunil gavaskar was chosen over kris srikanth. Kapil dev should rightfully the captain. He is by far the greatest cricketer of india.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:29 GMT)

dhoni doesn't deserve to get a place even in current indian XI. How did he get it in all time India XI. he knows the way to survive in team. Coming in crease after 3 or 4 wickets down, mostly 4 wickets, keeping one end whether india win or lose its not his concern only thing he knows that he has to be not out till the end of the inning. This gives him a advantage in his average to maintain above 50. And some fool believe that he is the best because no one has average like he has. ICC also cares the batsman with high average. He is playing for making his average not to win for india. The earlier dhoni was my one of the favorite but now he's become the most hatred for me.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:28 GMT)

You need a wicket keeper in the 11 member squad. ;) I think many people here have forgotten about wicket keeper?? I think Dhoni is the best wicket keeper + batsman India has ever seen.

Posted by Bamarolls on (September 14, 2010, 13:28 GMT)

Dear Members of the jury, having made your selection of 6 best batsmen ever for the Indian ATXI, if you had to rely on the keeper for batting, you should re-examine your own criteria for selecting the batsmen. May be you should have picked Umrigar for Hazare and feel secure with your batting line-up that includes Vinoo, Kapil, and Kumble. Keeper's job should go to keeping-specialist who was not a batting liability and therefore Kirmani fits the bill. I would concede that if the team is expected to play one-day instead of Tests, Dhoni should replace Kirmani. But then why would you be unanimous in picking Gavaskar for one day?

Posted by Apache_Indian on (September 14, 2010, 13:26 GMT)

@ BoonBoom .. We are witnessing the great job done by your so called great bowlers Akhtar, Gul, Ajmal, Irfan against England. Couldn't even defend 295 ? LOL What a shame ! What happened, is there no bowler left in Pak's domestic teams ? And what is the use of your great bowlers when you know your both catching and ground fielding are POOR. Even India's domestic players like Shikhar Dhawan and Badrinath field better than your international players.

Posted by slakkoju on (September 14, 2010, 13:22 GMT)

Hope all-time XI is for tests, I would prefer Farookh Engineer over Dhoni because of his performance in the tests is not as good as ODIs or tests. He is a mediocre wicket keeper and we are yet to see a match saving inning ( except vs Eng, thanks to the umpire ) or a long inning or a very good performance on a bouncy wicket. rest all selection is good.

Posted by kiranthez on (September 14, 2010, 13:19 GMT)

I don't think Dhoni is super among Kiran More and Syed Kirmani.He should be replaced by the duo. Voters don't know the batting and keeping skills of the duo....

Posted by BoonBoom on (September 14, 2010, 13:14 GMT)

Will someone tell me if India has produced any FAST bowler who took at least 100 test wickets at less than 25.00 bowling average? I am not able to recall anyone but I am very poor at cricket records.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:14 GMT)

i think kirmani was a better keeper than dhoni, n more over u dont need one more batsmen at no 7 with such a talented batting line up... and selection of srinath shows hw poor is our fast bowling though we dont have other option for fast bowler... even leaving out vvs and g vishwanath is quite surprising but again we are left with no option,,, overall good team selection by the jury.....

Posted by Nampally on (September 14, 2010, 13:13 GMT)

It is a remotely acceptable side considering that the Jury of 11 did not have a single member born prior to 1950. There have been some significant blunders such as: Non inclusion of Engineer & Kundaran in the list of wicket Keepers. How can the people vote when their name is not even listed? Both these are far superior to Dhoni in batting & wicket keeping.The omission of Polly Umrigar and Nissar & Amar Singh does not represent an "All Time" Indian team. These 3 provided yoeman's service to India. Nissar & Amar singh are legendary pacers. At least 2 of the 3 deserve to replace Srinath & prasanna. I don't mind Kumble's close call over Gupte. I feel Gupte is undoubtedly the best leg spinner the world has produced.It is difficult to convince a young jury who probably never saw Gupte in action against 3 W's, Sobers, Kanhai, Dexter, Barrington, Graveney,Simpson's Aussies, etc.Even Warne & Benaud rank below Gupte.Sadly this 11 is just a "Glimpse" of what "Real All Tine 11" could have been

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:11 GMT)

AN INDIAN CRICKET TEAM WITHOUT KAPIL DEV THE HERO OF 1983 IS JUST LIKE PLAYING CRICKET WITHOUT A CRICKET BAT SS RAO

Posted by Apache_Indian on (September 14, 2010, 13:10 GMT)

2 spinners were enough. In fact, Kumble alone was enough. If needed Sehwag's off spin would have been handy. Zaheer must have been preferred over Prasana. Not happy with this decision. Rest of the team is good.

Posted by arshad817 on (September 14, 2010, 13:09 GMT)

Totally absurd, Dhoni's inculsion over Farooq Eng and Syed Kirmani and Srinath over Zaheer and Nissar. Ganguli hello?

Posted by Rosey86 on (September 14, 2010, 13:08 GMT)

Honestly, as an outsider, i love this team. All of the "All time XI" teams selected so far have been based around a solid platform and the selection of an allrounder. For me personally, the fast bowlers almost picked themselves, and i think that reflects the true nature of pace bowling in India when you take on all of its test history. I am glad Ganguly is not in the team. There was no room for him in that 1-6. Who would you leave out?? Australia and England have a long reverence for the players of many era's ago. And from reading the cries of some of the people on here, it would seem some India fan's should get to know their cricket teams past before. I remember when the Australian team was selected. While some were disappointed that the likes of Ponting, Hayden were not selected, when you compare them to the players who they would have to be replacing in that XI, you begin to look at them in a larger historical perspective. I think that should be done for some of the Indian cricketer

Posted by up-in-the-air-and-taken on (September 14, 2010, 13:07 GMT)

Ganguly should be in ...as the captain of the all time team.Comon ...man who changed the face of Indian cricket !!!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:05 GMT)

ok wr is dada.............

Posted by imdmaster on (September 14, 2010, 13:02 GMT)

@palimanku...what great thoughts mate..but sadly u have been watching a different sport...may be kabbadi!! cause if u watched cricket then sourav was the man who scored 1st score above 50 in aus during the 2003-04 series in seamer friendly conditions remember 144 at gabba...in SA he was the only one to score above 50 in first ininngs of jo'burg test(india's 1st test win in SA)...against the windies he played a number of fighting knocks @50+ avg in 2002 season(btw correct ur spelling not states!! its stats)..finally the people who you put ovr are all greats including ganguly have given India a golden period of cricket of whose benefits even this generation of dhoni and yuvraj too reap...and trust me even bangladesh would not give yuvraj a consistent run in tests!!! all in all this team needs two inclusions one is ZAHEER in place of Srinath and other is BS Chandrashekar in place of Prassana

Posted by spinkingKK on (September 14, 2010, 13:02 GMT)

I haven't seen Hazare, Mankad and Prasanna. From the people I know, my best 11 would be, 1.Sehwag, 2.Gavaskar, 3.VVS.Laxman, 4.Tendulkar, 5.Vengsarkar, or Azharudin, 6.Ravi Shastri, 7.Kapil Dev, 8.C.Pandit, 9.A.Kumble, 10.J.Srinath, 11.Zaheer Khan, 12.M.Amarnath. This is recognizing the special talents some have, instead of just the statistics. Shastri, Pandit, Amarnath and Laxman should just get selected for their special talents which can not be measured in numbers. Vishwanath may fit into those categories. But, I have never seen him play. So, I couldn't select him.

Posted by Apache_Indian on (September 14, 2010, 13:01 GMT)

@ Abbas Mehmood ... LOL ! You people have started crying again :D :D You are jealous of strong batting lineup of India, which Pakistan never had :-) and will NEVER have :-) :-) When it comes to getting the opposition out India's strength has always been spin bowling. And who knows better than Pakistan that how dangerous KUMBLE is. Isn't it ?

Posted by Born_Smart on (September 14, 2010, 13:01 GMT)

Typical Mumbai selection for unanimous choices. I wonder who were the two members that differed on Dravid, their reason for that and what were their alternatives (Vengsarkar probably?!)

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:00 GMT)

Dhoni should'nt have been in the XI really, Gangully should have been there instead, when we talk about batting this guy doesn't know how to hold cricket bat . H e is selfish cricketer who only knows to blame others. I wonder if he can bat like sayed kirman considering his current form, he struggles against short pitch and inswinging deliveries . Dhoni even cannot deposit ball over fence. Well nice bit of selection keep it up..................

Posted by sanjaycrickfan on (September 14, 2010, 12:54 GMT)

@BoonBoom PCB mostly picks players from the streets and directly puts them in the Pakistan X1. That's the reason the success rate of Pakistan players is very low. For every Akram, there are 20 other Ata Ur Rehmans and Shabbir Ahmeds. Also they are mostly uneducated and susceptible to match fixing. In India, there is actually a system in place and the bowlers need to be consistent in getting wickets. Whether you like it or not, Srinath is one of the highest run getters in world cricket. He may not have bowled at 150 kmph but he got the job done and that's what matters.

Posted by Apache_Indian on (September 14, 2010, 12:53 GMT)

@ BoonBoom..... You need NOT to worry, our KUMBLE is enough for you guys. :-)

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:51 GMT)

its just joking,ganguly is not in the list.its just a laghing nominations.

Posted by san_11 on (September 14, 2010, 12:49 GMT)

guyz......... wherez dada??????????? he was d 1 one who made indian team wht it is now how can indian all time11 be without dada

Posted by delimack on (September 14, 2010, 12:49 GMT)

I am so glad that you left out the most under-rated spinner of all time Bishan Bedi

Posted by sanjaycrickfan on (September 14, 2010, 12:48 GMT)

Laxman should have been in the side ahead of Vijay Hazare. He had saved India on many occasions, played over 100 tests, one of the top run getters and has an average above 47 which is great for someone who comes in at No.6. Sachin, Gavaskar, Kapil Dev, Sehwag, Dravid, Dhoni, Kumble, Srinath are the best without a doubt. It's interesting that many of the current/recent Indian players find themselves in all time X1. No wonder they are world No.1 at the moment and also they have performed infinitely better in foreign conditions than all the previous teams.

Posted by S.N.Singh on (September 14, 2010, 12:47 GMT)

I think the selection to all time eleven is a good one. I had Gupte before Kumble, but gupte played less because of a mishap in a hotel and was out of cricket since then. Kumble still have it.Harbajhan I think is better than Prasana. Although Prasana and Venkattaravagan is also very good. Hazaree and Mankad was the backbone of India cricket. our pacemen since then was not there apart from Kapel Dev. Good selection for X1. S.N.SINGH USA

Posted by RKJoshi on (September 14, 2010, 12:45 GMT)

Out of 11 players, 4 were from karnataka. I think GRV narrowly missed the bus. Hats of to you Kannadigas. We are very much proud about you.

Posted by deepaksam on (September 14, 2010, 12:44 GMT)

Dhonis away test average is 37...Take away the 148 vs Pakistan(where there were 6 centuries and 4 near centuries), 89 and 51 vs Bangladesh and 76 vs Sri Lanka...Dhoni has not done anything big with the bat in tests.

Kirmanis keeping skills were far superior to Dhoni and also he was a valiant cricketer. So there is an error here. Also dropping GRV is unacceptable. Cannot justify his dropping.

But for Vishy and Kiri - the selection is perfect.Am sure my cricket mentor R Mohan will agree to this:)

And to all the 'dada' fans. Be happy he was nominated in this elite group.

Posted by RKJoshi on (September 14, 2010, 12:43 GMT)

Excellent Team Selection, except one change instead of Vijay Merchant, G R Vishwanat should be included.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:40 GMT)

Whatever Ganguly has achived only bcoz, he got most of the cream period of four all time great batsman ever played for India, Sachin, Shewag, Rahul, Laxman and also got Kumble, Zaheer and Harbhajan. Ganguly's fan should apply their mind and heart. He has lost so many matches due to captainship but i never remember where India has won a match due to his captainship ability. Due to his selfishness he has treated badly with many senior playes during his captainship only result of that he was kicked out of team at the end. "Boya per babul ka to lage kahan se aam". I think Ganguly and Dhoni both are the most ridiculous and selfish persons who represent India ever. Both have good captainship records only bcoz of these few playes have performed, but never won in crictical situations. Both have good batting skills but could not perform due to their selfishness. EXCEPT DHONI, I AM VERY MUCH AGREED TO THIS TEAM. Kirmani was a better chioce for his Keeping Skill.

Posted by cricnanda on (September 14, 2010, 12:35 GMT)

Reasonably good selection, except for the inclusion of Dhoni. That was ridiculous. He has done nothing with the bat and his keeping is just around the average. He has a good team and hence the results. Just compare his batting with the likes of Sachin and Dravid, he has never delivered in Test matches, has an awful technique and loads of attitude. I am waiting for him to loose form, because he can never make a come-back due to obvious lack of technique. Only endorsements can save him.

Posted by RajitD on (September 14, 2010, 12:28 GMT)

Generally good selection. Tallies mine, except would have picked up Chandra ahead of Prasanna...

Kirmani was leagues ahead of Engineer as a keeper, and Dhoni is a much better bat than Engineer, and as good a keeper..

Posted by kishorekr on (September 14, 2010, 12:28 GMT)

Comparing the list of nominees with those finally selected, one cannot help agreeing with the observation that is generally made about all such 'all-time' best selections - players in living memory dominate selection.

The selection put out here is not based on averages and this jury could not possibly have seen all the eligible players in the history of Indian cricket in action, to base their conclusion.

So...what is the yardstick applied?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:28 GMT)

where is ganguly? and who is dhonii?

Posted by nani_cool21 on (September 14, 2010, 12:25 GMT)

i really want the names of selection panel who voted against rahul.They are really guys with very bad taste.They shouldnt be in selection panel>please cricinfo take them away next time

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:25 GMT)

who is this SR Tendulkar fellow? What's he ever done? lol

Posted by BGKrishnan on (September 14, 2010, 12:21 GMT)

Those who talk of bias obviously did not see the readers' choice which matches with the experts' selection except for VVS vs Hazare. To those who wonder what Dhoni is doing there, why, he is the obvious choice for captain. He plays for the team in a way only Kapil has done, and has a grip on tactics and strategy where Kapil relied on gut and leading by example alone.Ganguly I am afraid comes only second to Dhoni. Ganguly has never won a world cup. Dhoni has won the inaugural T20 world cup and he has won in every category except the OD World Cup. The talent in KKR is no less than in Chennai Superkings, for instance, and yet see where the two teams are. The IPL is a good place to see the captaincy potential of the contemporary contenders - Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvraj, VVS, Rahul Dravid, Sourav, Kumble, Gambhir, and Dhoni. Dhoni is the only Indian to have captained a winning side, in fact, while some of the others even with greater star power in their ranks have fallen short.

Posted by nani_cool21 on (September 14, 2010, 12:20 GMT)

Who are the other 3 guys not voted for rahul dravid very funny he should be picked more than kapildev and ha ha ha vinoo maskad what a pity those three guys are not genune.He should be the second option after sachin

Posted by SrinivasBharath on (September 14, 2010, 12:17 GMT)

I dont think any batting order is complete without the peerless vagipuruppu venkatasai laxman. I cant understand why syed kirmani and chadra have been omitted. rest of the line up seems ok

Posted by Daveptee on (September 14, 2010, 12:16 GMT)

Fantasy/Hypothetical stuff like this has no meaning whatsoever.Only for armchair critics or those who have time to waste...........

Posted by A.S.M on (September 14, 2010, 12:14 GMT)

No Kiri, No Vishy!! Even those who have watched crickets during 50s and 60s (and who have watched Dhoni play, think they two were the best - playing in their roles. Dhoni, as WK, is nowhere close to Kiri or Farokh Engineer.

Prasanna is a good choice (considered by many as the best off-spinner ever).. Tough choice betwen Chandra and Kumble.

Nice list.. However, I must say, lists like these are unfair to many players (Vishy, Kiri, Azhar, Chandra, Bedi(?))and are created only for fun or can lead to further discussions (like what's happening now).

Maybe we should create the best-fifteen and let the captain & manager decide the final-eleven :)

Posted by dhar116 on (September 14, 2010, 12:11 GMT)

Not sure if Match fixing allegations were taken into account but Azhar should have been in the All time X1. He dominated many bowling attacks with ease in all conditions

Posted by uncanny on (September 14, 2010, 12:10 GMT)

I cant belief ganguly and laxman are not thier in the list. How can we keep a player who has played only 10 -20 test and judge his capability. My All time XI is: sehwag, gavaskar, dravid, ganguly, laxman, dhoni, srinath,kumble, z khan, kapil dev, chandrasekhar

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:08 GMT)

Dhoni??????? it is just a joke, where is azharuddin

Posted by klobania on (September 14, 2010, 12:06 GMT)

what is dhoni doing in this line up i mean what r his achievements apart of ipl 3 or first t20 cup (that was also because of yuvi n others) how can a team be made without greats like azharuddin and ganguly most successful batsmen as well as captains

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:06 GMT)

laxman should have made it

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:01 GMT)

no Laxman!! So sad...how much more embarrassment he has to face in his life.

Give him a better position, he would perform even more better...he is the man of crisis

Please don't ignore him.

Posted by SAYAN100 on (September 14, 2010, 11:55 GMT)

dhoni is the most stylish batsman and wicket keeper and also a cool captain who has given India some very good wins in his captaincy.therefore his selection beating kiran more and great syed kirmani is not a surprise for mr. the guy from Jharkhand deserves it...

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 11:47 GMT)

Dada is missing??????????????????

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 11:44 GMT)

Wat are the credentials of five gentlemen who selected these eleven player. this is totally biased selection. No runs average per test match. No average wickets . No good stumping. These jokers has no knowledge of cricket.

Posted by manav2004 on (September 14, 2010, 11:41 GMT)

Congrats to the Jury But I will go for Mohinder Amarnath rather than Vinoo Mankad because of his All round Ability to bat and ball.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 11:37 GMT)

GUNGULY should be IN...DHONI should be OUT........

Posted by hattima on (September 14, 2010, 11:35 GMT)

You are saying no one chose Farookh Engineer; that is because you did not include in your list of nominees. I am only 34 and never seen him play but I still find it a baffling omission, now even more so after this comment of yours!

Posted by BoonBoom on (September 14, 2010, 11:35 GMT)

Srinath in an all time eleven ??????? What a joke as this clearly shows lack of good bowlers in India. Most of the good clubs even in notorious PCB would not include players like Srinath even in their second playing eleven!!!!!!

Posted by bhagawansays on (September 14, 2010, 11:35 GMT)

India has always been a team of individual superstars. The suckers at the selection panel forgot to select one key ingredient to make the team work - THE CAPTAIN! Where is Sourav Ganguly???

Posted by palimanku on (September 14, 2010, 11:34 GMT)

For all Ganguly fans he is the most selfish player India has ever produced he should not be there even for the picking because in tests he never proved as a batsman, against SA and WI he never scored a century and against AUS we all know he is dumb head and who still believe that he is most successful captain I suggest them to go to cricinfo states for that for those who believe he teach India to win abroad just for there info where Kapil Dav win the WC so all ganguly fan go and watch KKR matches and pray that at least even once he plays for the team if he is a good captain he can make KKR to win so in the last in his captaincy he need Sachin, Dravid, VVS and Kumble to perform and take the credit.

Posted by aafe on (September 14, 2010, 11:28 GMT)

Dhoni is the most ridiculous member of this great side, don't know much about Hazare, Erapalli Prasanna and Vinoo Mankad. Ganguly shall be included. He is the man behind what the team India today is. Its also a fact this doesn't include a world class fast bowler, so even this all time great Indian side can't beat the present teams like Australia, South Africa and Pakistan. Anyways except Dhoni this team selection is acceptable.

Posted by sloggermanas on (September 14, 2010, 11:28 GMT)

Prasanna is a bizarre choice. B S Chandrashekhar got us our first Test win in England. Ignored. Bedi was the finest left armed India ever produced. Ignored. I agree with the other choices but this one rankles. Also, our pace attack, despite the stalwarts Kapil and Javagal, fails to inspire any awe. But I guess we didn't have much choice there, eh. @inxia Dhoni is a far better keeper batsman than Engineer. Add to that his captaincy skills. Engineer dumped his country for county. Loyalty should also count.

Posted by Capsule on (September 14, 2010, 11:24 GMT)

My selection is: No.1: virender sehwag No.2: sachin tendulkar No.3: Sourav Ganguly No.4: Rahul Dravid No.5: MS Dhoni No.6: Ajay jadeja No.7: Kapil Dev No.8:Robin Singh No.9: Irfan Pathan No.10:Javagal Sreenath No.11:Anil Kumble

Posted by Ramlals_Bong on (September 14, 2010, 11:20 GMT)

This team would murk any team in world cricket.

Posted by EXRampage on (September 14, 2010, 11:17 GMT)

Perfect choice??? Yeah right...

Posted by safwan_Umair on (September 14, 2010, 11:16 GMT)

fantatstic batting line-up, would be tough to dismiss these guys twice in a test, unless of course the ball seams and swings, which doesnt happen in the sub-continent, the Caribbean or most of australia. But, the bowling doesnt inspire too much confidence, yes anil kumble is a spin-legend, but srinath and kapil dev? i dont think any batsman would loose much sleep b4 facing them! just decent fast bowlers at their very best.

Posted by jangli70 on (September 14, 2010, 11:14 GMT)

A good selection, almost perfect.

But as many said I am also agree that in test squad Kirmani would have detter choice als Dhoni, I also want Ganguly in but qestion is that who could we exclude? Parsana is the right choice he is off spiner while Bedi and Chandershekhar was not right choice.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 11:13 GMT)

Kirmani was the best ...far far best keeper and performer than Dhoni...he should have been in team...and than the most shocking thing...where is SAURAV GANGULY and MOHD. AZHARUDDIN....mind it...GANGULY is the makker of Team india what it is today...its ganguly who took India to the world cup final after Kapil pajji won it for us in early 80's...how can you even put them out of the greats list...the list is good but without ganguly all lists are incomplete...mankad should be replaced with ganguly and dhoni with kirmani...and azhar should be in at the place of hazare !! azhar's batting class is so great...there was time when he had the batting responcibility on his shoulders...and he delivers to it..!! so just see the class...not the records...!!

one more thing put manoj prabhakar at 12th man's spot...all those who have seen him playing...will not argue with this...he was a gem of indian cricket...i have seen him changing his bowling according to conditions...he was class..!!

Posted by splendorskies18 on (September 14, 2010, 11:12 GMT)

VVS Laman should have been named in the All Time Indian XI.He could have made it instead of Vijay Hazare..That's the only change I would make to Cricinfo's all time XI.M.S.Dhoni ahead of Syed Kirmani is fine with me.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (September 14, 2010, 11:06 GMT)

So they got 3 spinners in after all! Very sneaky. I cannot think though that any Indian XI without Bedi is shortchanging itself. But nevertheless a very intersting and useful lineup from both sets of selectors.

Posted by ArunKB on (September 14, 2010, 11:06 GMT)

Mohinder Amarnath instead of Vijay Hazare would make it a stronger XI. People who want Vishwanath or Ganguly should probably make up their own personal X!.

Posted by errapalliprasanna on (September 14, 2010, 11:06 GMT)

One of Vishwanath, Laxman and Azharuddin should have been there.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 11:04 GMT)

A perfect all time XI or should I say X, as I don't see Dhoni to fit into the scheme of things. His charm has again worked rather. One question I would like to ask Cricinfo is are they selecting all time test XI or an one day XI, but going by the selection of Dravid, Gavaskar, we can safely presume it is test XI. In such case, Kirmani or Engineer deserve the place than Dhoni for he is yet to prove in test matches either with keeping or with the bat. Some calls for Ganguly is really baffling. Guys it is all time best XI and not all time FAVORITE XI. Ganguly is a favorite player for many in India being a good captain, but that doesn't necessarily fit him into the best of all time XI. Just take a look the list of nominees for the middle order - Laxman, Azhar, Amarnath, Vishy what a players. I am sorry any one would dare to compare Ganguly with these people. No doubt Ganguly is one of the great skippers and a good player, but you can't have him in all time XI.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 11:03 GMT)

where is the world is ganguly?

Posted by dsahai on (September 14, 2010, 10:58 GMT)

Without Ganguly indias all time time XI is not complete.......He is the one who booms Indian cricket as an aggressive Indian cricket.....a successful captain, a successful opener, a successful all rounder and a good attacking leader on the field....when dada is on the field.......than every viewer expect some game plan.........He is different............

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 10:58 GMT)

Dhoni in a all time XI....don't be joking.....see his batting in tests....its pathetic

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 10:56 GMT)

very sad to see such a very bad team.....selection is too poor and partial. Dhoni here makes this teams looks like a comic and we all really laughed out heart out....Dont think the chief selector here too is Kriss sorrykanth.....no place for Chandra and Dada, who shud actually be in the team as The best Skipper of all time.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 10:51 GMT)

Hey what have you done, Where is the group or section as captaion, ohhh, you missed it,

Posted by mrcruizy on (September 14, 2010, 10:49 GMT)

being a pakistani i thought Kirmani truely deserved the WK spot.. but it clearly shows that Indian people/media only go for the hypes n not geniun talent. how come Dhoni even be compared to Kirmani? he was undoubtly a world class act where as dhoni is just a bit n piece WK batsman who would only come into bat if the conditions are totaly in his favour i.e. if in test matches his team has scored above 400 runs he would love to come to bat but if his team is falling to pieces he would hide himself and would love to come in as a last man. same happens in T20 and ODI..Yes his wicketkeeping is as good as any other keeper at the moment but guys we are talking about ALL TIME XI..arent we?

Posted by ahmedjawwad4u on (September 14, 2010, 10:46 GMT)

The bowling attack is less formidable than australia, west indies, south africa and pakistan. The batting is better or comaprable to west indies and better tha rest. The first two best all time 11s are windies and australia. Than india with formidable batting, pakistan with formidable bowling and england with a balanced side competer for 3rd spot

Posted by Mahesht on (September 14, 2010, 10:33 GMT)

How much did Dhoni pay for you this ?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 10:31 GMT)

This is ridiculous- no Zaheer Khan? Zaheer Khan is statistically better than Javagal Srinath, currently amongst the very best quick bowlers in the game- with 242 test wickets. Zaheer Khan has that aura of class that Srinath never had. With Srinath as a test bowler, India never won away from home, but with Zaheer Khan, India have one a series of inspirational victories. His record in victories is very impressive, as is his record away from home.

Posted by Gillys_club on (September 14, 2010, 10:31 GMT)

I dont know how Kirmani isn't there in any of the teams.... In tests one needs a keeper who does more than just gather balls and dislodge bails. A keeper needs to evaluate his role continuously and also give inputs to bowlers a la to enable to him to stand up to the stumps, stay legside-ish or offside-ish etc... Kirmani did more on those counts

Posted by Guruprasad_Kusugal on (September 14, 2010, 10:31 GMT)

NO KIRMANI, NO NO G R VISHWANATH IT'S ABOSULUTALY SHOCKING.....GOD BLESS THOSE JURY MEMBERS.....

Posted by MADDY_INURHEART on (September 14, 2010, 10:27 GMT)

so this is it a great team thanks to selectors,I will not comment on omissions and those who were not even nominated because it is unarguably a great team and then just like the present national team there may be some view points of selectors which we people at times may ignore. But the point which i want to bring forward is Mohinder Amarnath, Gundappa Wishwanath,Dilip Vengsarkar, very very special Laxman, Engineer and Kirmani, Ganguly, Chandrashekhar, Abid Ali, Ghavri and many more who were great enough to get nominated at least, we could well form at least two more teams which even when not having genuine quicks like windies or oz's, could give this all time eleven and those of other countries a run for money!!!!!!

Posted by kpcp on (September 14, 2010, 10:26 GMT)

Why Sauravda is omitted? He was the all time best captain. It is ridiculous to omit him

Posted by g2311 on (September 14, 2010, 10:22 GMT)

It's weird how people are commenting on Dhoni's technique and what not ... I think they should get over their short term memory ... Last year AND this year too Dhon has been nominated for Best Test batsman ... he has made century in Newzealand.. He has saved test matches in England and Pakistan .. what more you want from Him.. jus because he lacks technique .. but he more than compensates it by his temperament and resolute... For somebody batting at 7 an average of 42 is brillaint ... and people should know he had Test average of 87 .. last year and 65 this year .. what more do you all want !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by kishorecv on (September 14, 2010, 10:22 GMT)

As usual, VVS LAXMAN got the raw deal here. He's got one of the finest averages against the World's best cricketing nation of his era and he can't qualify into an All time list while Dhoni can ? Oh well, by now he should be so used to this.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 10:18 GMT)

gud choice except for SRINATH..what about MOHAMMAD NISSAR or even AMAR SINGH..just because they played less tests doesnt mean they dont deserve to be on the list..1932-36 was the only time India had a world class fast bowling duo..and MD. NISSAR is the fastest we have ever produced..i think Srinath doesnt deserve a place here!!

Posted by zaheerthetop on (September 14, 2010, 10:18 GMT)

How you can avoid Mohmed Azharuddin And Syed Kiramni as wicket keeper. The way he was catching sleep and legside diving cathces no one can imagine about. MS Dhoni can not think the way Kirmani was catching the ball

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 10:16 GMT)

Where is "RAVINDRA JADEJA"? i don't know how the selectors can miss a player who could spin a ball like bishan bedi and bat like gary sobers.. i think this selection panel doesnt have confidence like our current selection team on Jadeja..

GREAT MISS... ha ha ha..

Posted by Guruprasad_Kusugal on (September 14, 2010, 10:14 GMT)

HI ALL

I WONDER WHAT JURRY MEMBERS THINK MOSTLEY DOMINIATED BY MUMBAI LOBBY...I WOULD LIKE TO DEFFER WITH JURY ON FOLLOWING ISSUE... 1> IT'S UTTER NONSENSE CHOSE DHONI AHEAD OF LEGENDARY KIRMANI. 2> HAZARE I HEARED HE IS GOOD BATSMAN OF HIS ERA....BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MAKE SENCE CHOSE GUNDAPPA VISHWANATH AHEAD OF HAZARE. BECAUSE WHENEVER VISHY HITS 100 INDIA NEVER LOST TEST MATCH. THIS SHOWS VALUE OF VISHY.. WHAT ELSE HIS CRITIC NEED MORE... 3> I WONDER HOW COME GREAT WALL OF INDIA RAHUL DRAVID NOT UNANIMUS CHOISE LIKE SACHIN. 4> I DO BELIVE IF ANY UNANIMAUS CHOISE FOR ALL TIME GREAT IT SHOULD BE DRAVID, SACHIN, KAPILDEV AND SRINATH ONLY.... 5> MORE OVER SACHIN AND GAVASKAR PLAY FOR SELF GLORY...NOT FOR TEAM CAUSE..... ANY WAY THIS IS YOUR WEBSITE SO YOU CAN CHOSE WHO EVER YOU WANT....RIGHT...?

Posted by Rickystery on (September 14, 2010, 10:13 GMT)

Nomination of Harbhajan Singh is mindboggling to me.He is not even the best spinner in the current Indian Sqad or rather we need to have him make way for the other young spinners. H.S is only effective when playing Aussies. We cannot keep playing him with the memories of 2001 test series.

Posted by brijeshnsingh on (September 14, 2010, 10:13 GMT)

The Jury missed the trick here, perhaps ! ..why would u need Mankad at 6 when Dhoni and Kapil can bat at 6 and 7. That to me is a defensive selection. Zaheer would be ideal to add variety and tooth the bowling attach which is missing in the current list. While picking the ATXI you also need to look at the balance and not alone the best individual performers. It was also disheartening not to see Ravi Shastri in the nominee list.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 10:10 GMT)

What a waist of the slots. Dhoni never comes into the XI. Kirmani would have been a better choice. Where is the left handed batsman in the team? I Think Sourav Ganguly can fit in any form of cricket in the Indian alltime XI.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 10:04 GMT)

Comparatively with other countries all time 11 , Indian all time 11 would rarely win because 1. none of the bats men in the list are good players at a bouncy pitches. 2. the rest of the teams would have 100 times better bowling attack and this goes from fast to spin . 3. none of the bowler in the Indian all time 11 would be able to win the match for their team single handedly because of lack of spine.

Posted by sundermagy on (September 14, 2010, 10:03 GMT)

I think the team is incomplete without an agile/athletic fielder, Eknath Solkar could have been included and Gundappa Viswanath was a major miss, I suppose. Is this XI based on success or performance, because MS cannot be qualified as a all time best wicketkeeper as there are better keepers in his generation too..

Posted by BoonBoom on (September 14, 2010, 10:01 GMT)

Please STOP living in an imaginary world. It seems you guys have too much time that you spend days and days for coming us such virtual teams that have NO meaning in real life.

Posted by Vinit_Sharma_Singh on (September 14, 2010, 10:00 GMT)

This looks to be easily the worst all time side of all the countries.

Posted by Raman.UV on (September 14, 2010, 10:00 GMT)

Nice team but i would like to see zaheer in the playing IX cos he is the best bowler with old one to produce reverse swing and trouble Any top class batsmen... also his performance outside asia is pretty good as compared to other two who got selected

Posted by ut4me87 on (September 14, 2010, 10:00 GMT)

No left handed batsman - I don't believe it. Ganguly should have there, captaining the side instead of Hazare. He is also more attacking player.

Posted by guan on (September 14, 2010, 9:59 GMT)

Always i fond of great vijay hazare because that time in test India is like zimbambe,that time he matched up with other batsman. As in case of not so stong bowling, it have 2 spinners, 2 faster which in most matches India play. My friends in west-indies India failed to chase 120. so i think it is very good combination to contribute to all players who played for India.

Posted by virology on (September 14, 2010, 9:59 GMT)

I think the entire jury had mid hang over while selecting the team. How on earth some one can miss VVS Laxman. Please selection panel can you give reason for omiting VVS. Well VVS transformed the test cricket this decade, teams are now very afraid to impose follow on. VVS can be simply selected on this basis. I wanted to know who where the two members in the panel who voted against Dravid and expect them to give reason for his omission. That will explain the quality of the panel. If any one reads please explain.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:58 GMT)

India tasted more away wins under Dada's leadership. Azar n Laxman saved most followon. But r not in the list. Its funny

Posted by Indro1234 on (September 14, 2010, 9:53 GMT)

this is shocking for me,,,,without ganguly indias all time time XI is not complete...it is foolish to not to include him.the above team is not capable enough to beat australia , pakistan and south africa.maybe jury were really partial and considered gangulys recent form.

Posted by shenoyragh on (September 14, 2010, 9:53 GMT)

Just Wonder who the other No.3 batsmen were, to compete with Rahul Dravid! He has to be a unanimous choice! Wall.. The best No.3 batsman the world has ever seen..

Posted by B.HARISH on (September 14, 2010, 9:45 GMT)

hey where is ravindra jadeja ? the great all rounder for india at present

Posted by inxia on (September 14, 2010, 9:42 GMT)

The two strangest selections are Dhoni and Prasanna. If you want to pick the best keeper, that's Kirmani. If you want to pick the best keeper-batsman, that's Engineer. Dhoni doesn't lead either category. For the spinner's berth, Prasanna was simply not as good a spin bowler as either Bedi or Chandrasekhar. It's a good side that was chosen but not as good as it could have been.

Posted by ASPCRKT on (September 14, 2010, 9:40 GMT)

Dhoni is yet to perform in Test match as a good WK as well as Batsman, also it is true that his batting style makes world laugh, shouldn't hv been considered for test squad. Kirmani is right choice. In bowling, Zaheer has shown better performance than Sreenath.

Posted by A.Ak on (September 14, 2010, 9:39 GMT)

I think it is a very perfect list. As people say a wicketkeeper should be judged only by that skills not by bating. So I would say Kirmani instead of Dhoni. This generation didn't see much of Kirmani. Some people say Zaheer instead of Srinath. I think Srinath is by far the best competitor compared to Zhaeer. Zaheer is not consistent at all (both bowling and fitness). I am surprised to see only 9 votes for Dravid. I think he is the best no 3 batsman ever for India and arguably the best no.3(technically) ever. Please don't talk about scoring rates in test cricket. Now we have all flat batting tracks and less skilled bowlers, so the run rate is higher compared to past. People used to play timeless cricket, Remember.

Posted by seenurag on (September 14, 2010, 9:36 GMT)

Dhoni in place of Kirmani? Kirmani was a world class WK. Those who nominated MSD would not have known the greatness of Kirmani.

Posted by Gvsaradhi on (September 14, 2010, 9:32 GMT)

I will definitely go with VVS Laxman instead of Vijay Hazare or Vinoo Mankad. They hardly played 50 tests a piece and we will need to give leverage to a player like laxman who has played more than 100 tests and also in this present world of cricket with lot of competition and game became too modern, Vinoo Ji and Vijay ji will not make the cut. Laxman is a game saver and also the finest player. He is a good slip fielder.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:30 GMT)

being former first class cricketer i feel u gave the importance to record than class..i think Mohammad Azharuddin & Gudappa wishwanath have been lot and lot unfortunate.............

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:27 GMT)

this is closest to the perfect choice ...but how on earth gundappa visvanath is out of india's middle order???

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:27 GMT)

to add spice to this boring line up, S Sreesanth should have been included..lol

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:25 GMT)

Why is Ganguly missing? He cannot be kept out from all time XI, should play in the middle order.

Posted by AnyoneButVettel on (September 14, 2010, 9:23 GMT)

The fact that Srinath was chosen says that we haven't ever had a decent fast bowler apart from Kapil. I can think of one better bowler - Zaheer Khan. Can anyone name more?

Posted by AnyoneButVettel on (September 14, 2010, 9:17 GMT)

@s_a_n_k_a_r_a_n: Hahahahahaha. Don't be surprised if Ravindra Jadeja ends up as India's next captain. The match fixers have him on their side even before they approach him. His lack of talent and skill with both bat and ball makes his job very easy - cost India all the matches he plays in.

Posted by Arok on (September 14, 2010, 9:14 GMT)

Once again, MSD does it; not because of his class or ability or his records; but purely because of the failures of others. It is really absurd that he is rated together with geniuses of the game. I do not under rate him, but he cannot be compared with the other players in the mentioned list. Its very unfortunate that dada, vvs, azhar and zaheer cannot make it while MSD can make it. I would say even Dinesh Karthick has better batting technique than MSD, but the problem with DK is application. Any way congrats to MSD. All the very best.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:11 GMT)

I would have definitely had Laxman at No.5 for the simplest fact that he has won matches for India in that spot and accumulated more runs than any other middle order batsman in terms of partnerships with the tail. So many times have those runs helped the team to get those extra runs to enable the bowlers to bowl freely or helped the team to save and win test matches, home and away in the recent past. It was a tough choice to leave the likes of Azhar and GR Viswanath but Laxman stands out for me. Its not to take anything away from what Vijay Hazare has achieved. I am not qualified to comment as i haven't seen him play.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:10 GMT)

MSD inclusion is utter non sense. How does he qualify to be in the list?? Kirmani was far more better wicket keeper than him,No doubt about that. His wicket keeping skills are just average. And as a Batsman I dont remember any Test innings of him which makes you notice of him. Commentators laugh at his ugly shots which he plays whenever he comes to bat. Really disgrace to Batsmanship.

I would have definitely taken ganguly in place of laxman\hazare as 1)best captain 2)only left-hander 3)medium pace 4)plays aggresively with good strike rate bcoz most others except sehwag or probably tendulkar play slowly especially dravid.

Posted by vichan on (September 14, 2010, 9:09 GMT)

As good as that top order is, the bowling line up leaves a lot to be desired for when comparing to the other countries' All-Time XIs. That attack would struggle against many of the great batsmen. I would say that the strongest All-Time XIs are, in order, as follows: 1. Australia, 2. England, 3. West Indies, 4. South Africa, 5. Pakistan, 6. Sri Lanka, 7. India, 8. New Zealand.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:09 GMT)

Great team. Only comment is that Dhoni should bat at 7 & Kapil at 8.

Posted by raghudutt on (September 14, 2010, 9:03 GMT)

im shocked at the omission of Ganguly as he was the one who changed the attitude of the team after the max fixing scandal was hurting the image of the team. don't forget he is still India's best and successful captain who taught India to win matches abroad. The panel has lost its sense i think. Im not happy with this selection.

Posted by cricketcrazzychick on (September 14, 2010, 8:58 GMT)

I wholeheartedly agree with the list except one inclusion.HOW ON EARTH IS MSD THERE??? Kirmani and More are better HANDS DOWN!!MSD is the worst batsman on our team.There maybe a few good leadership qualities in him...but he is PATHETIC batsman.How can he be on our all time IX?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:57 GMT)

Where in d world is Gautam Gambhir,sehwag is incomplete without him,and also i prefer K Srikkanth over Sidhu anyday.

Posted by N.Sridharan on (September 14, 2010, 8:51 GMT)

Lies, damn lies and statistics is an eternally true statement of fact. Taking the wickets of tail enders is not the same as scalping Lloyd, Richards or Lara. Similarly scoring tons against Bangladesh cannot be equated with even twenty odd runs scored to save the match or win against tough opposition. Hence all time XI cannot be chosen based on mere statistics. Did the jury know of players of the past like Amar Singh, Poly Umrigar, Bapu Nadkarni and the like?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:49 GMT)

@Ankit -Totally agree with you..Attack is the best form of defense..you must play fire with fire..

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:48 GMT)

an All Time Indian XI Xant be made without

1. Mansoor Ali Khan Pataudi 2. Sourav Ganguly 3. Syed Kirmani 4. Md Azharuddin

Posted by evenflow_1990 on (September 14, 2010, 8:47 GMT)

this is definitely the best batting line up one could imagine. its almost creepy. laxman's stats aren't quite good enough to justify his inclusion, although he is probably the best looking of the lot in his strokeplay. i can see why dhoni was included, although he just seems to be a corporate cash in at the moment. but i think in 10 years time he will be part of any all time indian XI, so its a fair choice. i think the bowling is pretty weak - excluding kapil, of course. but thats always been india's weakness, so that wasn't a surprising result. they may not win test matches all the time as a unit, but they won't lose any either - not with that monstrous batting line up anyway.

Posted by AusRob on (September 14, 2010, 8:44 GMT)

Agree with most selections, although would have preferred to see Bedi ahead of Prasanna.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:40 GMT)

Indian all time XI should have 1. Azhar, Zaheer and Sourav in place of Vinoo Mankad, Vijay Hazare and Javagal Srinath

Posted by NAV_EEN on (September 14, 2010, 8:39 GMT)

No Lefties in the squad utter non-sense...

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:36 GMT)

I dont agree with Indian all time XI. Few of the obvious choices were not there. 1. Mohammed Azharuddin in place of Vijay Hazare 2. Zaheer Khan in place of Javagal Srinath 3. Sourav Ganaguly in place for Vinoo Mankad Indian all time XI should not be a blend of OLD and NEW. It should be one which can demolish the opposition and represent the best country has ever produced.

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 8:36 GMT)

this may be the best combination. vijay hajare is the best batsman in 1950s.and average of 47 indicate this. similarly mankad is best before kapil as a allrounder spot. so it gives variety in the team as batting and bowling are concerned. he can also open for india and can bowl 50 overs in an inning with good economy rate. so he is an anonymous choice. i am pleased to see the team combination. threeworld class spinners. 4 rocking batsman 1 great batsman wktkeeper 2 world class allrounders 1medium pacer(hazare) and two fasters. all can come in a single team. a team which has great bowling side. this team can bowl 200 overs without tiredness. and the captain of this team is anil kumble with dhoni is deputy. in test kumble is the right choice. see perth test is the best example

Posted by djindal on (September 14, 2010, 8:35 GMT)

Selection of Dhoni as specialist Wicket Keeper, only because of this BATTING is an INSULT to ALL Indian BATTING Greats...

Mongia has opened in Test Matches for India..and MUCH MUCH better wicket Keeper than Dhoni

Dhoni doesnt even have guts to come up the order whenever Bowlers are troubling batsman..

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:31 GMT)

For me it would be VVS Laxman at No.5 ...........

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 8:30 GMT)

alll time odi 11............. 1.gilchrist 2. sachin 3.ponting 4. kallis 5. richords 6. bevan 7.klusner 8.akram 9.pollock 10.muralitharan 11.lee/mcgrath. this team can face any of the team in the world. everybody is perfect. 2 attacking 1. defencive(kallis) 2greats of odi(sachin/ponting) can make run in any situation 2 perfect match finisher 4 best bowlers of his time in which 2 can bat also and provide the momentum.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:28 GMT)

I cannot much on the above selections. But I would say we cannot say the above mentioned is the all time XI. We had good performers along with these guys. Selection is good but, my heart goes for the performers like VVS, Chandrashekar, etc...anyways, my conclusion is we cannot forget the other heroes of Indian cricket by saying the above mentioned are the only all time best. Let us not forget the contribution of the others too...

Regards, Shine

Posted by postsituationist on (September 14, 2010, 8:25 GMT)

Dear Arjun Siva on (September 14 2010, 06:05 AM GMT): What are you going about? I never mentioned Zaheer. I just said it's sad that India's All-time XI will have to open with a bowler of Srinath's mediocre stature, medium pace and average record. He won't have made any other team.

Posted by mknkmak on (September 14, 2010, 8:25 GMT)

Well among the all time XI teams, this Indian team look a very weak team. you cannot win by playing strong batting side and a weak bowling side. i think Indians have no choice to pick a team with strong bowling. BOTTOM LINE INDIANS NEVER PRODUCED GREAT BOWLERS. Other all time XI teams like Australia, England, Pakistan and South Africa beat them comprehensively.

Posted by bongalkar on (September 14, 2010, 8:24 GMT)

I am curious how many vadapavs are on the judges panel or else it is so clear judges just want to differ with the readers selection and as usual who is the default go to and unfortunate choice ? VVS it is. This is the most bitter thing I have read and seen on cric info and so blatantly obvious. What we need is a replacement for cricinfo ! and its john lenons on the panel ....

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:24 GMT)

I would have thought that Engineer deserved the wicketkeeping position but then again I would rather choose a guy for his wicketkeeping ability and batting ability is a bonus. (Particularly in a best ever side., if your best ever batsmen cannot do the job, then you really should not be expecting great things from the keeper).

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:22 GMT)

Ganguly should have been there instead of Mankad. First of all he is a leftie, who would give a variety in this lineup. And also he is the greatest Indian captain of all-time. He would easily become captain of this team. And why do we need Mankad when we have Kapil and Dhoni in the squad??

Posted by bongalkar on (September 14, 2010, 8:18 GMT)

I am curious how many vadapavs are on the judges panel or else it is so clear judges just want to differ with the readers selection and as usual who is the default go to and unfortunate choice ? VVS it is. This is the most bitter thing I have read and seen on cric info and so blatantly obvious. What we need is a replacement for cricinfo ! and its john lenons on the panel ....

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:17 GMT)

the line-up is fantastic and formidable but again there is just one chink in the armour and that is fast bowling... i think including zaheer instead of prasanna would have been ideal as to have a world class seam bowling attack as well, as both srinath and kapil have a fantastic average within India but outside they were not as effective in direct contrast to zaheer's feats. this would give them an allround bowling attack with 2 spinners and 3 pacers and fantastic variation as both departments have left and right arm bowlers...

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 8:15 GMT)

india all time odi 11.....................1.sehvag 2. sachin 3.ganguly 4.azhar 5.dhoni(captain) 6. yuvraj 7. kapil 8.agarkar 9. jaheer/srinath 10 kumble 11.harbhajan 12th man would be ajay jadeja harbhajan can be replaced by any batsman in the team and part timers would do the job . test 11 is the same which cricinfo published.

Posted by sanjayverma on (September 14, 2010, 8:13 GMT)

its a oppinion for best eleven ..indian has a bunch of good players and we can choose another set of eleven..and i m sure it will be equally good and talented .

Posted by Lovetesh on (September 14, 2010, 8:11 GMT)

For the post of keeper Kirmani is better than Dhoni. It is a best Test XI and Dhoni is not one of the best test batsman to be included ahead of better keepers.An all time XI should include the best captain as well not just the best XI players. Ganguly should get in ahead of Hazare and he would also provide one left hand batting option.

Posted by djindal on (September 14, 2010, 8:10 GMT)

Why Dont We have

1. Arun Lal, 2. Chetan Sharma, 3. Madan Lal, 4. Saba Karim 5. Nikhil Chopra

In BEST INDIAN XI

Look at them commenting on Batting/Bowling technique issues in Best Ever Players(Dravid/Tendu/Ganguly/Laxman/Zaheer/Bhaji) on Daily NEWS Channels..

They seem to be the BEST and should be part of this XI :)

Posted by bongalkar on (September 14, 2010, 8:06 GMT)

As always Laxman's value is once again overlooked by the indians. So unfortunate, it would have been sensible even if Viswanath was in the XI It looks mundanely mediocre in the middle and influenced by idiosyncrasies of the judges. Mr Guha certainly does not belong in there. Harsha, please show this XI to say an Ian Chappell .... you know what he will ask ... Given the well known fact that this has always been the case while considering Laxman , it only reaffirms that this Indian jury is not even qualified to weigh his value. More over you steer away from telling who would be the captain, just goes to say how improper and careless the selection and this article has been .. spend some more time on what you write and make sure you spend atleast a tad more on thinking about what you should write.

Posted by Philip_Gnana on (September 14, 2010, 7:59 GMT)

One of the most potent of spinners, Chandrasekar being left out is a mystery. He was such a terror when playing overseas. Performances overseas, that gave India much needed wins seem to have been ignored. Afterall Chandra did take more wickets than Prasanna with his off breaks. Viswanath/Vengsarkar hmmm not much that we can ask here. Present players seem to have a better record. But, considering the bowler friendly conditions of years gone, I wonder how some the current batsmen would have fared. If only Vino Mankad was batting allrounder and that with seam, then the team would have been well balanced with Sewag coming in as the third spinner...Good team overall. Philip Gnana, Surrey

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 7:59 GMT)

Great XI.

There are omissions , but that in bound to happen because you can only opt 11, right ? But am happy Rahul Dravid has found his well deserved place in the lineup ; he is the most technically sound batsman we have had, just because Sachin (the master Blaster) is with him, people most often than not, overlook him............. But mind you its also because of good stable , sound team mates like him that helped Sachin to be the Greater than the Great player he is ....

Posted by klobania on (September 14, 2010, 7:58 GMT)

by looking this team XI i think pple shud stop calling it as a team i mean this team is entirely comprising of either subcontinent pitches heroes or spinners i mean srinath who never creates any impact is one of two pacers. this team may score 500 runs but with this batting line-up it cant get good teams even once outside subcontinent. i think worst team XI so far announced by cricinfo here. n see indian team is still playing with old horses like tendulkar n dravid

Posted by thisisfun on (September 14, 2010, 7:57 GMT)

This team can draw any test, anywhere it wants. For winning, you need to take 20 wickets and that might be a problem.

Posted by satyat on (September 14, 2010, 7:56 GMT)

One notable omission is: VVS Laxman. I would prefer him over Vijay Hazare any day...

Posted by Ashok22 on (September 14, 2010, 7:52 GMT)

It's no surprise that Hazare was not chosen by readers, as most do not know older pre- TV days greats. I thought not having BS Chandrasekhar & GR Vishwanath too is a great omission.

Posted by ashi_24 on (September 14, 2010, 7:50 GMT)

MSD inclusion is utter non sense. How does he qualify to be in the list?? Kirmani was far more better wicket keeper than him,No doubt about that. His wicket keeping skills are just average. And as a Batsman I dont remember any Test innings of him which makes you notice of him. Commentators laugh at his ugly shots which he plays whenever he comes to bat. Really disgrace to Batsmanship.

Posted by AltafPatel on (September 14, 2010, 7:47 GMT)

Dhoni should have been replaced by Saiyed Kirmani as wicket keeping should be considered instead of batting while selecting wicket keeper.

It's really hard keeping Mo. Azharuddin, VVS Laxman, BS Chandranshekhar out of the squad. From stastics, Azharuddin, Laxman surely better than Hazare but time when Hazare had given contribution to India is also important factor for selection.

Posted by BellCurve on (September 14, 2010, 7:47 GMT)

The average strike rate of the bowlers is more than 72. That means, on average, it will take this All-Time Indian XI 2.7 days to take 20 wickets. It still amazes me than in 80 years of Test cricket India has not produced a single truly world class bowler. It's either that or you have to conclude that the bowlers' stats have been dragged down by having to play on all those awfully flat subcontinent pitches. But the flip side of that equation is that the Indian batsmen's stats have been inflated. May I therefore suggest as a general rule that all Indian players' batting and bowling averages should be reduced by 10%? That means Kumble gets an adjusted bowling average of 26.69 and Tendulkar gets an adjusted batting average of 50.42. I know that this will not sit comfortable with the average Indian, but what's fair is fair.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 7:44 GMT)

This is not right at all....there is not a single left handed batsman......there should have been some variety in the middle order.....instead of Mankad or Hazare we should have played Ganguly to get some variation in the line-up....otherwise our batsmen are quite great except....biowlling department pretty weak just two seamers.....

Posted by MFNadeem on (September 14, 2010, 7:42 GMT)

As a Pakistani supporter, I would say that the whole complexion of the Indian team changed ever since Dhoni arrived on scene. Before him, India was a great batting lineup but a spineless team due to lack of allrounder as well as a wicketkeeping batter. Now they have an allrounder in the form of Dhoni. I would never drop Luxman from any Indian test team at any cost. How come you prefer Vijay over Laxman? Both average same but Laxman has almost three times more no. of test matches. Most of his 100s are against Australia and are made as rearguard effort. Only two seamers is also a poor choice. Zaheer must have been preferred over Parsana.

Posted by s_a_n_k_a_r_a_n on (September 14, 2010, 7:41 GMT)

where is my favourite Ravindra Jadeja ?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 7:34 GMT)

instead of srnath zaheer is a better choice

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 7:33 GMT)

Hi Cricinfo,

On paper the All-time XI India certainly has the best batting line-up amongst all the All-time XIs: Numbers One to Nine (!) have all scored Test Centuries! And the bowling is also a reflection of India's best bowlers; probably Zaheer Khan for Javagal Srinath may be the only change that can be considered (although Srinath is the faster of the two). Pras, going by the accounts of all knowledgeable observers is superior to Harbhajan skill-wise (not slap-wise!) and Vinoo Mankad's slightly superior economy rate and batting would have allowed him to edge ahead of the other turbanator in contention, Bedi. And for all those grumbling about two seamers and three spinners, Vijay Hazare with his Malinga-like action would have provided the required medium-paced support. Let's not forget that his 595 First Class wickets included twice bowling the great Don in Tests!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 7:32 GMT)

Indian all time XI will not win a series out side the sub continent coz we donot have the bowling attack to get 20 wickets. Compare this with the all time great bowling attack of Australia, west Indies or even Pakistan. all though i think the batting may match up with the best. Viru should be the captain of this team or Dhoni as a second choice but please no kapil dev no sunil gavaskar. Why do we need vinoo mankad when there is dhoni and kapil to bat. I would say get Zaheer Khan for away games and chandrashekar for home games. I dont know if Vijay hazare was better than VVS but for sure VVS knows to save games, finish them and is also fun to watch.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 7:26 GMT)

gud luk dhoni...keep it up

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 7:21 GMT)

I would have definitely taken ganguly in place of laxman\hazare as 1)best captain 2)only left-hander 3)medium pace 4)plays aggresively with good strike rate bcoz most others except sehwag or probably tendulkar play slowly especially dravid.

Posted by sanzo5 on (September 14, 2010, 7:13 GMT)

WHERE IS AMAR SINGH.... HE SHOULD BE THERE INSTEAD OF MANKAND OR PRASANNA

Posted by djindal on (September 14, 2010, 7:11 GMT)

By the way, what can u expect when ppl like ARUN LAL, who has played just 10-15 Test/ODI is selecting ALL TIME BEST XI for INDIA

Cricinfo.. Number of votes in favour of each player should be presented.. Especially for ppl who deserved a place and were denied one.. And also present number of Reader's votes in favour of these players..

Mongia/Kirmani Zaheer Khan Laxman/Vishwanath

Posted by sairaghavan5694 on (September 14, 2010, 7:11 GMT)

The biggest mistake is leaving Engineer out from the nominees itself. If he was there in the nominees, he certainly would have scored ahead of Dhoni. If Dhoni has been picked for his batting, God save India!

Posted by PrasadRao on (September 14, 2010, 7:10 GMT)

Unfortunately due to limted no of options - few match winners have got left out - they are BS Chandrasekhar, BS Bedi , Gundappa Vishwanath, Mohinder Amarnath , Dilip Vengsarkar, Ravi Shastri, Mohd Azharduddin, Saurav Ganguly and VVS Laxman - each one of them can walk into any World XI for sheer grit and class! I have all of them in my list of 4 all time best Indian XIs!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 7:07 GMT)

@cricfan78

That guy is a Mumbaikar. The guy he chose is a Mumbaikar as well. Go figure.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:59 GMT)

it seems more to be a Test match side than ODI one..but still very good

Posted by djindal on (September 14, 2010, 6:58 GMT)

Vijay Harare -- >> Laxman Vinoo Mankad -- >> Zaheer Khan Dhoni --- >> Kirmani

Then u have best XI

1. Sunil Gavaskar, 2. Virender Sehwag, 3. Rahul Dravid, 4. Sachin Tendulkar, 5. Laxman, 6. Kapil Dev, 7. Kirmani/Mongia, 8. Anil Kumble, 9. Zaheer, 10. Javagal Srinath, 11. Erapalli Prasanna.

Posted by murliramki on (September 14, 2010, 6:57 GMT)

Its surprising not to see VVS Laxman, for all he has contributed to the Indian team.With some scintillating techniques and towering records, his omission is questionable. However, one must understand the fact that only 11 players comprise a team.

Posted by KBowser on (September 14, 2010, 6:56 GMT)

The balance of the team is correct with Kapil Dev not selected in top 6. I would have preferred Kirmani, Chandra and Bedi instead of Dhoni, Kumble and Prasanna but it is hard to argue too much. Overall it is probably the weakest of the teams so far apart from NZ and Sri Lanka. The batting is strong (stronger than Pakistan's; equal to Sri Lanka, England and South Africa; but not as strong as WI and Australia), but the bowling is not great compared with West Indies, Australia, Pakistan, South Africa and England. This team should play for a draw if it can.

Posted by avinash11may on (September 14, 2010, 6:56 GMT)

A good team overall, except for the fact that playing Dhoni at no 8 is a stupid idea. and he has no chance of batting higher in the order either... therefore he should not have been picked up in the first place. Picking up Kirmani might have been a much better idea. I was surprised that Azharuddin was not nominated by a single jury member. On pure cricketing grounds, no Indian batsman has ever dominated opposition bowlers like Azharuddin, except Tendulkar and Sehwag. His electric counterattacks against the likes of Donald, Shane Warne, Wasim Akram, Waquar Younis, Ambrose, Walsh and Muralidharan are unforgettable. I have never seen Muralidharan being hit for sixes by Indian batsmen other than Azhar!!!!!! How can we forget that Lords hundred in 1990??????? Even Vishwanath or Laksman might have been a better choice than Hazare. As for bowling, this is best possible atack for matches in the sub-continent. Nissar or Zaheer should come in for one of the spinners for your downunder.

Posted by ravi_hari on (September 14, 2010, 6:55 GMT)

A lot disappointing. Firstly I think the jury itself has some cosmetic people and not cricketing knowledge members. I agree withthe sentiments that you have gone by records than ability excepting in the case of Hazare. I think not having people like Vishwanath, Azharuddin, Bedi and Chandra is a blemish. How can one rate Laxman above Vishy and Azhar? Though this is not a very serious selection, however, I dont think it has gone the right way. If you look at the number of matches people are playing today, the records are very poor. Let today's batsman bat against tearing fast bowlers or on under-prepared pitches, then you will know who is better. How can one ignore Vishy's match saving and winning innings. How can one forget Chandra's heroics. For that matter even Vengsarkar is much better than most of the batsman chosen in the 11. It is very disappointing half of the people chosen do not deserve a place in all time 11. It can be called 'modern' all time 11.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:54 GMT)

My TEAM would be like this .... 1. Krishnamachari Srikkanth, 2. Virendra Shewag, 3. Sachin Tendulkar, 4.Sourav Ganguly, 5.VVS Laxman, 6.Gundappa Viswanath, 7. Farrok Engineer,8.Kapil Dev,9.Javagal Srinath, 10.Anil Kumble, 11.Erapalli Prasanna.

Srikanth & Shewag will give INDIA a quick start followed by Sachin & Ganguly will keep the momentem . Laxman will give some kind of stability in the middle of the innings & finally Vishwanth ,Kapil will finish the innings in great style. Two specialist fast bowlers and two spinners will drive the bowling attach . Sachin / Shewag / Srikanth / Ganguly can finish the rest 10 overs.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:52 GMT)

This is all so tedious,banal and pointless. Can we not be spared of this drivel,PLEASE !

Posted by anubhav.sarathy on (September 14, 2010, 6:48 GMT)

wow... 4 bangaloreans and only 3 mumbaikars in the all time 11., and the two who most ppl are fussing abt are also from bangalore( CHandra and vishvanath)..

Posted by nesvedmos on (September 14, 2010, 6:44 GMT)

Curious - was not Vijay Hazare a medium pacer with good control over swing and seam? He can be the 3rd seam option - definitely not in the Keith Miller or Mike Procter class, but obviously good enough to bowl 10-12 overs a day and do the partnership breaking role...

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:42 GMT)

What a Joke! There are only two pace bowlers, bowling line up combined with three spinners. How they are going to play in bounce green tracks? They need to pick up 20 wickets but it seems to be impossible. Dhoni has never ever batted well in any of his test innings that played in South Africa or Australia. Even Harvajan got better average compare to Dhoni against Australia in Australia when India visited last time there. How do you guys miss Azhar? He was the best middle order after Sachin India has ever produced. How do you match his techniques, talent and temperament with any other middle order batsmen? There is no Batsman in Indian middle order who can match A YOUNG Azhar's most elegant wristy batting and fielding. Perhaps this is not the best Indian team!

Posted by Nayeem_Kohir on (September 14, 2010, 6:42 GMT)

This Indian all time XI will not be able to make it to the top three all time XIs from different countries. Infact they have a toothless bowling attack, which will be destroyed by most of the all time XIs especially, abroad. Batting is just about fine, but there is nothing great about this Indian all time XI. There seems to be some bias as well in picking up the players. I wonder how Mohammad Azharuddin, Zaheer Khan, and Syed Kirmani were not worth the votes. How people related to sports could be so biased. The West Indies all time XI, Australia all time XI, and Pakistan's all time XI can beat this Indian XI any day, 9 out of 10 times.

Posted by Siddharth_Pandit on (September 14, 2010, 6:32 GMT)

lol..sehwag got 10 votes..who was the great one thinking India ever got better opener than sehwag?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:22 GMT)

One of the weakest bowling line ups among the all-time XIs.What is Srinath doing? He is higly overrated. And there is Prasanna jst for the sake of variety. Chandra is a much wiser choice. Saurav/Pataudi in place of Hazare and mst be made Captain of India.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:21 GMT)

great team! to watch them play together would be any cricket fan's dream.. im not sure if zaheer should sit out but then again who cares, the batting would more than make up for any of the bowler's flaws!

Posted by rafiq_qc on (September 14, 2010, 6:20 GMT)

Why not included Azhar, Zahir & Bedi? I think The selector like Arun lal Is not right one. Thanks.

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 6:19 GMT)

chandra bowling style is same as kumble and you can not out kumble. bedi same as mankad so mankad can not out if we want an allrounder. and if u consider hazare then in his time he is the gretest batsman of india and as a medium pacer he would be suitable in foreign conditions. and for variety in spin dept. prasanna is added as a offspinner. so the tyeam is pretty accurate. think about something 4 best batsman 1 bats wktkeeper, 2 allrounders 1medium pacer 2 fasters and 3 best spinners. what do u want more in a team.

Posted by arun_39 on (September 14, 2010, 6:18 GMT)

Not just four but 5 should have been automatic selections - add Dravid to that list.

Posted by djindal on (September 14, 2010, 6:18 GMT)

I dont like Dhoni at all.. Most over-rated cricketer ever.. Worst Wicket keeper when compared to Krimani/Mongia/More. No way he should be part of India's all time Test XI, when u need specialist wicket keeper

But, record book is in his favour :((

Most dismissals Player Span Mat Inns Dis Ct St Max Dis Inns Dis/Inn SMH Kirmani 1976-1986 88 151 198 160 38 6 (5ct 1st) 1.311 MS Dhoni 2005-2010 46 86 139 119 20 6 (6ct 0st) 1.616 KS More 1986-1993 49 90 130 110 20 5 (0ct 5st) 1.444 NR Mongia 1994-2001 44 77 107 99 8 5 (5ct 0st) 1.389

Bad Luck India....

Posted by Biophysicist on (September 14, 2010, 6:15 GMT)

I fail to understand how the Cricinfo jury dropped a palyer of VVS Laxman's class, caliber and proven performances. It is a pity that he has been given the same shabby treatment despite serving Indian cricket in the most selfless manner. His recent 4th innings century in Sri Lanka is a fine example of his value to the Indian team. I am yet to see a performance matching his epic 281 in Kolkata from any of the other members of the team. Even if you see don't see the context, and look at only statistics he will be above Hazare! I am happy that the readers of Cricinfo and Sharda Ugra have selected him in their teams!

Posted by cricfanraj on (September 14, 2010, 6:15 GMT)

First 4 positions were spot on. 5th Hazare .. not sure. How can you simplely ignore Laxman and Visy. Any parameter they would have been there. May be jury want to avoid critisism that all new generation players. But the fact won't change Anyday Laxman / Vishy over Hazare. Any way this is not fatal. The worst is Why do you want to have extra all rounder when you already have dhoni at 6 /7. This is for sure poor selection.Assume Bradman /Great Wi is facing this attack. To get them out Test matches should be for 50 days instead of 5 :-) . I think Zaheer /Nissar or whoever can be there as 3rd seamer. If we bost so much on spin then Subhash Gupte . Come on how can you ignore him and choose Mankad calling him an alrounder. If 3 W's can be ignored in WI AT11 why to crib and create a position for players like Mankad (due respect to his record.)I'm fine with 9 selections but Hazare was not so good and Mankad as all rounder was poor.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:14 GMT)

The list should have included Vijay Manjrekar as well. I believe he would have been a better choice than Rahul Dravid or Vijay Hazare.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:08 GMT)

What a team! India can take on any team in the world and dominate them. The selection panel had a very difficult choice to pick the all time great India XI but they've done a great job based on their knowledge of Indian cricket's history and achivement. Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tedulkar, Mankad, Dhoni, Kapil, and Kumble have selected themselves. I would have picked Laxman over Hazare; Nissar over Srinath; and Bedi over Prasanna. I concede that many of the panelists have not seen pre-independence era players and have no way of judging their abilities and talents. My uncle's told us that Nissar and Amar Singh would have walked into any first XI. I also understand that it is very difficult to compare players from differnt eras and we tend to pick players based on our personal knowledge, era we live in and what is reflected in the record books. Notwithstanding the argument for or against a certain player, India's bench strength is amazing and we can adjust for any situation. Cheers!

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 6:07 GMT)

this may be the best combination. vijay hajare is the best batsman in 1950s.and average of 47 indicate this. similarly mankad is best before kapil as a allrounder spot. so it gives variety in the team as batting and bowling are concerned. he can also open for india and can bowl 50 overs in an inning with good economy rate. so he is an anonymous choice. i am pleased to see the team combination. threeworld class spinners. 4 rocking batsman 1 great batsman wktkeeper 2 world class allrounders 1medium pacer(hazare) and two fasters. all can come in a single team. a team which has great bowling side. this team can bowl 200 overs without tiredness. and the captain of this team is anil kumble with dhoni is deputy. in test kumble is the right choice. see perth test is the best example

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:07 GMT)

Great batting lineup, average bowling lineup. The pace attack is really weak with only two pacers, both average ones (strike rates of 64). This team, if it ever played, would play out a lot of draws due to the batting piling up a ridiculous amount of runs consistently and win a few when the bowlers get lucky but also lose a lot more than it would win because the seam bowlers are "EXTREMELY" weak and this bowling lineup would struggle to take even 15 wickets, let alone 20, 90% of the time.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:05 GMT)

i think Srinath over Zaheer is a great choice. @Postsituationist - both bowlers have almost identical records. The difference being that Zaheer's career has been plagued with injuries and he is unreliable. Srinath did have a rotator cuff problem, but he didnt constantly take time off like Zaheer. He was someone who took responsibility of being india's no. 1 bowler and was a workhorse too. Check out number of matches, number of wickets, averages etc - all are pretty similar. So your comment just seems uneducated.

Posted by Shripathi on (September 14, 2010, 6:02 GMT)

Other than the exclusion of Kirmani for Dhoni, I cannot really find fault with this selection. My only other change would have been Zaheer Khan for Prasanna -- opting for three pacers and two spinners.

But nevertheless, having three spinners is probably the way to go for India.

Dhoni has not done enough to justify his inclusion over Kirmani. Yet. In Tests.

Again, the pigeon-holing made this exercise a bit farcical.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:00 GMT)

Gr.Vishwanth has to be in The Middlie !

Posted by ashwin1729 on (September 14, 2010, 6:00 GMT)

I think this doesnt do fair to the team. how can someone leave out Laxman? in my opinion, this is how the team shld be.

Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Sachin, Hazare, Laxman, Dhoni, Kapil, Kumble, Srinath and Prasanna.

In my opinion, we do not need another allrounder besides kapil dev. and that too a spinner. Sachin and Sehwag can do that. We need a specialist @4 down like laxman to do that.

Posted by Rake1 on (September 14, 2010, 5:57 GMT)

Good team but I personally not too sure of the balance - 3 spinners & 2 seamers. Not a great option if the team is playing in SA, Aus, Eng, WI or NZ. I would have liked to pick another seamer like Zaheer and Prasanna would have missed out.

Posted by kulli_11 on (September 14, 2010, 5:55 GMT)

i think G.R. Viswanath ommision was the only mistake in the list.....

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:54 GMT)

what the hell...you guys denied Bishen Singh Bedi, of all spinners, a place....awful....wait for his verbal missiles. :)

Posted by sjb550 on (September 14, 2010, 5:49 GMT)

I would have picked: 1. Sunil Gavaskar 2. Vijay Merchant 3. Rahul Dravid 4. Sachin Tendulkar 5. Sourav Ganguly (c) 6. Vinoo Mankad 7. Kapil Dev 8. Farokh Engineer (wk) 9. Anil Kumble 10. Javagal Srinath 11. Bishan Bedi

Merchant for the left hand right hand opening combination and his first-class average. Ganguly for his captaincy and medium pace to make a more balanced attack, as well as being the only left hander in the middle order. Bedi because he is arguably better and would provide left arm contrast, although I can see why Prasanna, who spins the ball a different way to Kumble, would have been picked.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:40 GMT)

today gen do not know much about the old cricketer's.........

Posted by thenkabail on (September 14, 2010, 5:40 GMT)

Chandra a must: Much of this is influenced by present generation. Look the very best all time XI + additional 5 are: 1. Sunil Gavaskar, 2. Vijay Merchant (captain), 3. Virendra Shewag, 4. Sachin Tendulkar, 5. Rahul Dravid, 6. Kapil Dev, 7. Vinoo Mankad, 8. Farrok Engineer, 9. Ervapalli Prasanna, 10. Bishen Bedi, and 11. Bagawat Chandrashekar, 12. GR Viswanath, 13. Vijay hazare, 14. Javagal Srinath, 15. Anil Kumble, and 16. Mahendra Singh Dhoni. Vishy can play in XI if anyone is injured or out of form or at times in Vinoo Mankad's place (we have 4 bowlers then). Also Srinath can play instead of Mankad when the pitch is fast. Farook is far better keeper than Dhoni and both are about the same class as batsmen. Not having Merchant and Chandra is total dumb. Indeed, I will have Merchant as captain.

Posted by postsituationist on (September 14, 2010, 5:35 GMT)

Laxman, for sure. Any team that gives Srinath the new ball will find it hard to compete with the other all-time XIs.

Posted by CricFan78 on (September 14, 2010, 5:30 GMT)

So which jury member didnt want Sehwag in Indian all-time XI ... what a muppet !

Posted by archilion on (September 14, 2010, 5:30 GMT)

Never thought India's bowling department will be so weak! India has always been a batting heavy side, but I feel all-timeXI was a good chance to pick the best of the bowling attack of all times. I'd say its a competitive bunch of talent, but certainly beatable, and not the best.

Posted by g2311 on (September 14, 2010, 5:29 GMT)

It's AWEFUL that still there are some people who DON'T have faith in Dhoni's abilities.. Yes He isn't the best wicket-keeper but he is much better than many... It's high time that Indian cricket critics stop being sceptics ... I am sure that had the jury comprised of all foreign critics ... all 11 votes would have been in favour of Dhoni ... afterall he is the Indian answer to Adam Gilchrist ( he also wasn't the best of the lot ) with an added benefit of being such an excellent captain.... BY THE WHO WOULD BE THE CAPTAIN OF THIS TEAM ??

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:24 GMT)

greAT line up...u've got not one southpaw...great goin cricinfo....hatsss offfff !!!!!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:20 GMT)

this is same as my dream Indian side.... would be great to watch two little masters batting together !! Thanks cricicifo !

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:20 GMT)

Bishen bedi i don't think so. He is a useles guy. you should not even compare him with the othe great spinners!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:19 GMT)

I think except Prasanna and Vijay Hazare every one deserves it. VVS should have come in for Vijay Hazare and Bishen Bedi should have come in for Prasanna. Otherwise this is the best combination of all time XI.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (September 14, 2010, 5:18 GMT)

Wow! It is a very good team. Look at the batting lineup. There is noplace for VVS ! That shows the strength of the team. I think this middle will not get much opportunities as it is hard to break Sunny, Viru and Dravid combinations.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:15 GMT)

Good choice except for Hazarae. Giving him due respects, Vishy or VVS might have been better...

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:04 GMT)

i am glad to see Virender Sehwag in final all time XI. But dhoni is not the better choice for All time XI

Posted by ejsiddiqui on (September 14, 2010, 5:04 GMT)

This shows how good the fab 4 are, on the other side it is alarming for India that almost all of them will not be available after 2011.

Posted by alonsoe on (September 14, 2010, 5:03 GMT)

Great choices. But why are Mankad and Dev batting ahead of Dhoni.

Posted by srini1088 on (September 14, 2010, 5:03 GMT)

i would pick gnaguly in the eleven just on the basis of his captaincy...indian cricket owes him a lot....it was in a horrible position durin the late 90s when the likes of azars were caught on match fixing scandals and the team was shattered...dada took over the captaincy ,invested heavily on youth and resurrected Team India..likes of sewag ,laxman ,baji are a result of his captaincy...salute DADA for savin our INDIAN team and give us the belief to reach the top

Posted by ssenthil on (September 14, 2010, 4:59 GMT)

This is the joke of the Millennium by Cricinfo and it's getting more crap everyday. Get a life cricinfo. Dhoni who is chosen for his Batting in a test match to drop a easy catch in every Innings/Match to bat at No.8. What more prof u need? Total crap. Omitting F Engineer from the nominees itself showed how biased and cunning cricinfo is.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 4:59 GMT)

Sunil Gavaskar has 1 ODI hundred and he is in all time XI lolzzzz

Posted by aruntheselector on (September 14, 2010, 4:58 GMT)

I hope there was a prize for selecting the XI. My team was exactly the same as the panels have chosen.

Posted by savetigers on (September 14, 2010, 4:56 GMT)

Is there any meaning in this useless exercise????? really!!!!! Whats the point in naming a team that has players from a hundred years back?

Posted by vatsap on (September 14, 2010, 4:54 GMT)

Surprised about Prasanna's selection. Rest of the choices reflect the most successful phases of Indian cricket. Very suprising that the two teams are very close. Dhoni was another suprise.

The bowling attack lacks depth to seriously threaten a strong world XI from say Pakistan, Australia or the Windies. Each of the bowlers selected were champs but consistent chaps not sure when compared to the other great teams.

Posted by goutham99 on (September 14, 2010, 4:50 GMT)

why sourav ganguly has not included in the list of XI , while dhoni is included..... dada changed d face of indian cricket... yet no body supports him...di s d respect 2 such a great player ah......

Posted by Abhishek_Singla on (September 14, 2010, 4:45 GMT)

Finally, we have got all the 11 masters in All-Time India XI. My team was almost same, except i chose Laxman instead of Vijay Hazare. May be Vijay is better, because i didn't see him batting. Overall, it is a well composed team, capable of beating any test team in the world. I am wondering, who would be the captain among these 11 players? :)

Posted by rajib022 on (September 14, 2010, 4:32 GMT)

This is very bad all time best 11. All time best opener Sourav Ganguly should come first is this squad. Sunil Gavaskar wasnt a quick run getter. So why he has picked? Syed Kirmani was a far better wicket keeper than Dhoni. So, it is again a bad picked by jury. Syed Kirmani should come first before Dhoni. .......RAJIB

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (September 14, 2010, 4:32 GMT)

This the best line-up India can shore up..............well done

Posted by AtticusFinch on (September 14, 2010, 4:30 GMT)

Dhoni in an all time Indian XI?! Thats like awarding Obama the Noble Peace Prize before completing a year in office! All other players selected richly deserve to be in the XI. Placing Dhoni along such stalwarts makes the selection look hollow and playing to the gallery!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 4:18 GMT)

i think this is best possible team . sehwag, gavaskar is a great opening combination. then dravid, sachin to follow. i haven't saw vijay hazare but his record says he was a great player too. vinu mankad can alsoprove vital for this team. dhoni is here just for his batting. bowling line up is also good with kapil,srinath, kumble and prasanna. but i would just love to see GANGULY's name in this team just for his captaincy in place of hazare.

Posted by zeuskris on (September 14, 2010, 4:11 GMT)

Why would Mohd Azharuddin be in the nominees list when he was kicked out of the team for match fixing. This biased approach by the media, which quickly forgets the events after adequate time has passed is the reason we now have to deal so much corruption and indiscipline in cricket now.

Posted by Vivekspeak on (September 14, 2010, 4:09 GMT)

Just imagining this team playing together is an exhilarating experience in itself!

On a quick look, looks like almost everyone on this list has captained India in tests but for Srinath and Prasanna...

Posted by Rydham on (September 14, 2010, 4:06 GMT)

Omission of Ganguly is surprising. Following points are with him : 1) He is the lone left hander in the team, 2) He is a better captain than anybody till today which is proved, 3) He has 7,000+ test runs and 113 test experience. You can not ommit such a legend. Vijay Hazare was a classic player but Ganguly was holding captaincy & middle order batting spot and with this, he has scored 7000+ runs. It is not a small achievement !!

Posted by krsna76 on (September 14, 2010, 4:03 GMT)

How the hell can you speak about Azar, he is cheat, and should not be in the discussion list at all.......

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 4:02 GMT)

The Batting line up is un-believable. Probably Dhoni at 6 or 7.

Posted by karthik132 on (September 14, 2010, 3:53 GMT)

Dhoni, it says has been selected by virtue of his superior batting. But considering the context, Kirmani had a decent average and in his time the bowling attack was much better and the pitches more hostile. Dhoni, on the other hand hardly faces tough situations while batting considering India's batting riches. he comes in when all batsmen have put India on top and thus gets to score freely. Of course Dhoni is a good batsman, but the context is more important.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 3:51 GMT)

M S Dhoni in All time XI is big joke... its pure politics in selection.

Posted by ns_krishnan on (September 14, 2010, 3:49 GMT)

I am disappointed that even the jury has selected MS Dhoni. He is yet to prove his keeping skills up to the stumps. And I guess Prasanna has been selected to bring variety. Gupte would have been my choice.

Posted by mqry on (September 14, 2010, 3:46 GMT)

which of the jury did not vote for Dravid? Is it Arun Lal? He is as biased as the Fox TV in US

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 3:46 GMT)

blind selection by stats only......

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 3:39 GMT)

So, can this ATXI beat the WI, English and Australian ATXI? Come on, fantasy cricket. Indulge in your dream matches :)

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1st Match, Group A: Super Kings v KKR at Hyderabad (Deccan)
Sep 17, 2014 (20:00 local | 14:30 GMT | 10:30 EDT | 09:30 CDT | 07:30 PDT)
2nd Match, Group B: Hurricanes v Kings XI at Mohali
Sep 18, 2014 (20:00 local | 14:30 GMT | 10:30 EDT | 09:30 CDT | 07:30 PDT)
5th Match, Group B: Tridents v Kings XI at Mohali
Sep 20, 2014 (20:00 local | 14:30 GMT | 10:30 EDT | 09:30 CDT | 07:30 PDT)
7th Match, Group A: KKR v Lahore Lions at Hyderabad (Deccan)
Sep 21, 2014 (20:00 local | 14:30 GMT | 10:30 EDT | 09:30 CDT | 07:30 PDT)
8th Match, Group A: Super Kings v Dolphins at Bangalore
Sep 22, 2014 (20:00 local | 14:30 GMT | 10:30 EDT | 09:30 CDT | 07:30 PDT)
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