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BCCI working committee to discuss ICC draft

Amol Karhadkar

January 21, 2014

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The BCCI has convened an emergent working committee meeting in Chennai on January 23 to discuss the "position paper" that recommends an overhaul of the ICC administration.

Though the meeting notice circulated last week didn't spell out the agenda, BCCI secretary Sanjay Patel confirmed the meeting would discuss the draft proposal that will wrest most of ICC's powers into the hands of the triumvirate of the BCCI, CA and the ECB.

"The meeting has been summoned to apprise and get the working committee's nod for pushing BCCI's case of getting more revenue from ICC's earnings, as bulk of it is generated by the BCCI," Patel told the Telegraph, a Kolkata-based daily.

Since the BCCI is one of the key stakeholders of the "position paper" drafted by a "working group" of the ICC's Finance & Commercial Affairs (F&CA) committee, the members feel the meeting will be a mere formality to confirm BCCI's support to the proposal. Most of the BCCI members and officials didn't have a clue about the top bosses being involved in such discussions with CA and ECB for the last six months. However, since the proposed draft offers to boost BCCI's coffers and thus offer more money to its affiliates, no working committee member is likely to oppose the proposal.

"Some members may seek clarity on the financial model but in principle, there is no reason for anyone to oppose the proposal. If it means that bilateral tours could impact to a great extent in the coming years, so be it," a former BCCI office-bearer said.

The proposal is due to be put to the ICC Executive Board at its quarterly meeting in Dubai on January 28-29. The proposals would need seven votes out of ten to pass. However, over the last four days, it has evoked mixed responses from cricket boards across the globe. While New Zealand Cricket has supported the proposal, Cricket South Africa, the most adversely affected board as per the proposal, has requested the ICC for its withdrawal.

Amol Karhadkar is a correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by chechong0114 on (January 23, 2014, 2:53 GMT)

The sport of cricket has been around since the 18th century and yet with all its history it still has not been able to make an impact in any of the wealthy economies of the world. Apart from Australia, England and maybe India the game has done little to nothing to make a mark in developing wealthy countries like China, USA, Japan etc. Just look at the latest nations that have gained ICC status in the sport and u get a very clear image of how big a failure the ICC has been as a body and how poorly they are at promoting and commercialise the sport. Afghanistan, Kenya, The Netherlands, what kind of economy do these nations have to make a real mark on the sport and probably turn over any kind of financial profit that will assure their sustainability for the future years to come. The thinking behind the sport is full of such confusing, and I believe it has reached its boiling point to where the ICC as a body is just ready to throw in the towel hence the reason for the current decision.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 0:54 GMT)

The rich get richer, the poor get poorer!

Posted by   on (January 23, 2014, 0:51 GMT)

Sheer Arrogance from the BCCI, just look at the way the office bearer speaks!

Posted by harmske on (January 22, 2014, 23:48 GMT)

india have got a powerful, entertaining and money-making tool in their hands - surely they should be shouting about it from their rooftops and taking it to as many parts of the world as possible. how does it make sense (even from an economic point of view) to have such a "product" and want to limit the number of potential "customers" that can have access to it in the long run.

Posted by harmske on (January 22, 2014, 23:47 GMT)

@Mohan Konanoor - so what you're saying is that because india has a much larger population than say nz, or sa, or sl, it should play that many more matches? a match a year per major city perhaps?

because it is a region where cricket is loved dearly by many more (in part, because it has many more) that it should be put up on a pedestal?

we should look at cricket as a world sport, and be thankful that there is a region like india that provides so much love and revenue for this sport. that revenue should then be used to maintain cricket in india as well as promote it in regions where it's less economically viable at present (which in no way implies that it is any less loved).

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 12:31 GMT)

@Laurel Crujo dont make us laugh... england cant even produce a cricket team of their own, forget their money, even their cricket team is made of expatriates much like canada or hong kong. ps: even we are against this deal as it doesnt create any level playing ground for anybody. other countries should boycott the big 3 and form their own board... and let india play the ipl and let the english and aussies fight amongst themselves for some ashes!

Posted by Alistair0610 on (January 22, 2014, 10:49 GMT)

The BCCi seem to think that they control world cricket already, why should they share with ECB and CA. Seriously though this plan is just awful.

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 22, 2014, 10:05 GMT)

Rule 1: If you do not want to do something then you set up a committee.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 9:54 GMT)

If BCCI,ECB & CA will take the control of ICC then it will be "TNCC" (Tri-nations Cricket Council ! ) :P FIFA encouraged and arranged a football match between Tahiti (Ranking - 141) & Spain (Ranking - 1) to extend and spread out the football around the world where these three country wants to play test match among 8 teams (Ranking 1- 8) to hold the quality of cricket! This is hilarious,funniest joke ever! Did they forget that India,Australia were also weak teams once when West Indies ruled over the cricket ? Now why they are trying to stop Bangladesh & Zimbabwe to play 5 days test cricket by this lame excuse! So all Bangladeshi supporters should protest against it !

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 7:04 GMT)

@Aanz N Dipp Love Yes & they have paid for it every single day since...Lets be honest about it here there almost more Indians in England then the English. In fact it should be called Inglish.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 5:47 GMT)

@Louella Cerejo does the british queen pay royalty to the indian govt for the kohinoor diamond or do their govt pay any royalty to india for moving all our wealth to britain and making such a tiny country's currency value (pound) the highest in the world strangely.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 5:24 GMT)

@Louella Cerejo does the british queen pay royalty to the indian govt for the kohinoor diamond or do their govt pay any royalty to india for moving all our wealth to britain and making such a tiny country's currency value (pound) the highest in the world strangely.

Posted by android_user on (January 22, 2014, 5:08 GMT)

I disagree IPL will in 10 years be a normal event. It is just a hit and miss competition. Big Bash is better. Other Countries will support the formation of a Global Club League similar to Champions league in Football. playing accross the world. India can keep IPL. sponsorship will increase for small countries. plus the break away will allow for New Indian Cricket To join. May split Cricket in India

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 5:02 GMT)

kashsaga: It is not big head speaking. It is a real need. The current structure severely penalizes a large, cricket-crazy country like India. It penalizes it financially by draining money from Indian market and spreading it all over the world (which is all the more sad, because as you pointed out, on a per-capita basis, India is still very much a poor country). It penalizes its spectators by giving them only as many matches to watch as a tiny country like NZ or SL. So you have the ridiculous situation that Mumbai with 4 times the NZ population and absolutely cricket crazy gets only 1 international match per year (if they are lucky), but NZ gets over a dozen per year. Tier 2 cities like Mysore, Jaipur, Ahmedabad, etc - which are all bigger than most of the cricket centers in other countries - don't even get that one match per year. It penalizes its aspiring players by making it a lottery as to which 11 of the tens of millions gets to play at the top level.

Posted by kashsaga on (January 22, 2014, 4:32 GMT)

Sitting here in the US it is funny to hear the Indians talk about the American Sports, and claim that they would rather go the American way and lol its funny . I say let them go the way of the American sports. Keep your money and enjoy your own cricket! What people forget is that before India went and got itself a big head (dunno why though as their per capita is less than 3k a year as compared to the US where is it over 42k a year) there was world cricket..and i am sure there will be world cricket after them as well.

Posted by satzzz on (January 22, 2014, 4:18 GMT)

@ Desihungama

Are you kidding? Who in this world gonna watch the world cup with the 2nd level teams when there is the IPL going on parallelly. Even the Protea, Caribbean and the Kiwi players will skip the world cup to take part in IPL. Lankans will go to a new height, the management people will create a drama like 'Country vs Club' but players will outplay them by retiring from international duty to prolong their careers in IPL and BBL ;) Pakistan will win the so called world cup because they will not be picked by any IPL franchises even though they are ready to boycott their national matches.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 4:11 GMT)

Louella: Too bad the English didn't patent the Laws of cricket.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 3:47 GMT)

Sayeeshwar: absolutely. One team will never be enough for a country of billion population which is crazy about the game. We have to create more teams within India and encourage the people to those matches (IPL has done that for T20, but we need to extend it to other formats too), rather than continuing with this lopsided international structure.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 3:39 GMT)

Will the BCCI be paying Royalties to England for the cricket???? Considering it is a English game originally & not from India. You can't just steal someones game & make it your own. After all you'd be the first to say you don't get anything for nothing these days.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 0:09 GMT)

India is currently playing too much international cricket. Domestic cricket must be given more publicity, so that more youngsters can take up cricket as a profession,instead of the situation now where very few people make a living out of cricket. Contrast this with England where club football provides a living to thousands,since international football is negligible except for big events like the euros and World Cups. BCCI should care about the game in India first and they can do so only by cutting international tours which in turn will strengthen domestic cricket.

Posted by CricketisKing on (January 21, 2014, 23:32 GMT)

@Desihungama, if the big 3 decide to do things on their own there will be no World Cup. Most of the other boards do not have the resources necessary to host a World Cup. Look at the state of SL, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe finances. South Africa and New Zealand may be the only ones who can host but they will be severely hampered. Then again what the three boards are asking is not wrong. They are not saying "we will not help others". All they are saying is that they want a bigger share of the revenue. Why should they prop up other boards when those boards are not doing anything to help themselves? Look at WICB and what they did to WI cricket. I have a feeling that the big three are just tired of seeing the futility of helping the other boards, barring SA and NZ, which are mired in politics and corruption. That is why you see most of the players want to play in the IPL than playing for their own countries. Go figure.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 23:27 GMT)

@Desihungama: lol...yea..it is interesting

Posted by android_user on (January 21, 2014, 23:25 GMT)

#desihungama nobody in India is interested in watching any team other than the big 3 and South Africa. This proposal is likely to bring more money to India's first class cricketers. What is so wrong in that? India doesn't need international cricket. We can simply go the way of American sports.

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (January 21, 2014, 23:14 GMT)

Clearly almost all Cricket fans are against this idea because it can destroy the sport in future. Every country whether big or small in Cricket has a right to have a say and lead and bring success to the sport itself rather than being greedy about the financial aspects of it. If these crazy proposals are in place than its goodbye to Cricket in smaller nations like West Indies, New Zealand, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh etc and Cricket will embarrassingly be played by like 5 teams or something.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 23:00 GMT)

I am an Australian and if Australia continues to pursue this course I think Desihungama is 100% correct. The rest of the world should boycott Australian cricket and wait for it to die. I would rather see that happen than see this unjust proposal be approved.

Posted by ProdigyA on (January 21, 2014, 22:44 GMT)

In this world it's wrong to ask what is yours. All the while when the big 3 were literally feeding world cricket with both their hands, no one questions them but when they say we gave enough, stop taking alms, now man up and be on your own, everybody has a problem. Beggers cant be choosers.

Posted by speedarp on (January 21, 2014, 22:13 GMT)

@Desihungama Dont dream guys!! Just think of another scenario, if big three just ensure that no sponsors are available for ICC events, can any others bring potential fat sponsors? also big three has big grass root level cricketers who will sponsor them?

Posted by Matt.au on (January 21, 2014, 21:42 GMT)

@ Desihungama

Sth Africa were lucky to get what constitutes a crowd in Kallis' farewell series that saw the top 2 test nations play each other.

I'm thinking holding a world cup in let's say, Sth Africa, with Afghanistan playing Scotland wouldn't be much of a money spinner, in fact it would be run at a loss.

Nearly all the games with the teams you suggest would be run at a loss.

It costs a fortune to set up a world cup. Considering the 7 boards you propose plus the affiliates haven't got much more than two pennies to rub together, who would risk the money to stake an event that in all reality would be a financial disaster.

I think it would be better if the 7 boards worked with BCCI, CA and ECB and discuss a way of setting up a promotions fund for each board.

The promotion fund would not be handled by each board but run by a dedicated promotions arm that spent the funds in each country for what the money is meant for - promoting the game via advertising and scool clinics etc.

Posted by samincolumbia on (January 21, 2014, 20:38 GMT)

@Desihungama - SA has and can never win an multi-national tournament, since they invariably choke. Their cupboard is bare! Except for NZ and to some extent Pakistan, the less said about the rest, the better.

Posted by Noisybug on (January 21, 2014, 20:35 GMT)

Iam totally with the bcci.

Posted by dabbadubba on (January 21, 2014, 20:11 GMT)

@Desihungama .. who cares for world cup, when IPL is there

Posted by Alexk400 on (January 21, 2014, 20:10 GMT)

SA , pakistan ,srilanka and west indies should remove themself from ICC if this becomes final and form their own version of ICC.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 20:01 GMT)

@Desihungama - This is exactly what I was about to say. Well done. You saved me time and effort.

Posted by Desihungama on (January 21, 2014, 19:50 GMT)

Solution to this hegemony by these 3 boards is real easy. Just say Good-bye to ICC and thank them for the services rendered for all these years and make a parallel league with Haroon Lorgat as it's first Chairman. Let Big-3 play all the cricket among themselves and watch the revenues dip to the point where they start offering brownies to these smaller markets. Now, which World Cup will you watch? Australia, Eng, India with 2 losers on victory podium or a World Cup with South Africa, NZ, Pakistan, SL, Bangladesh, WI, Zimbabwe and now it gets real rewarding when add Afghanistan, Ireland, Scotland and few other associates. Bingo!

Posted by ODI_BestFormOfCricket on (January 21, 2014, 17:21 GMT)

India is a huge country with thoushands of professional cricketters. Only national players and ranji players getting decent salary, other district, zonal players are not. India's total professional cricketters will outnumber world's other total cricketting nation's player. So asking more share by BCCI is not wrong bcz i want bcci to feed every professional players in india. BUT I COMPLETELY AGAINST TOP 3 CONCEPT.

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