India news February 27, 2014

Ashwin not being handled properly - Maninder Singh

ESPNcricinfo staff
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'Everything has gone haywire with Ashwin'

R Ashwin has lost his way in international cricket due to a combination of experimenting too much with his bowling and not receiving the right guidance, former India spinner Maninder Singh believes. If he is to regain his best form and live up to his "match-winning" potential, the BCCI has to step in quickly and get India's bowlers the right coaches, Maninder said in an interview with ESPNcricinfo.

Ashwin had showcased a new bowling action in India's opening Asia Cup match, on Wednesday, and what he saw worried him, Maninder said. "He has been trying so many variations. It generally happens that when you try too many things then you lose your originality and that is what is happening, and that is the worry for me," he said. "For me, Ashwin is a match-winner. He can win you matches whether they are Test matches or ODIs or T20s.

"But everything has gone haywire with him. I don't know what the bowling coach has been doing with him, and what the main coach and captain have been doing with him. If I was around, I would not have allowed [his bowling to slip] that so far that he had to change his action."

Last year Ashwin became the fastest bowler in more than 80 years to 100 Test wickets, and received the Polly Umrigar Award, the highest award handed out by the BCCI to a current player. However, on India's overseas travels his effectiveness often falls away and he recently went wicketless in several matches. Subsequently, he lost his place as the primary Test spinner to Ravindra Jadeja during the South Africa series in December.

Ashwin's problems stem from the fact that he has adopted a defensive mindset, Maninder said. "Someone has got to tell him that you were picked in the Indian side because you showed that intent that you wanted to get wickets in the IPL, in 20-overs games," he said. "Then you come into a Test match and after the Australia series [last year], I read somewhere, he said 'my role was to restrict'. Now who has given him that idea? It's the captain.

"So I think he is not being handled properly. Somebody who came into the Indian side because he had the capability and the urge to take wickets, he was eager to take wickets in 20-overs cricket, becomes defensive in Test cricket where you are supposed to take wickets … Something is going wrong somewhere, someone is giving him the wrong advice."

Getting the right bowling coach, and at the earliest, would be key to Ashwin and the other India bowlers' fortunes, Maninder said. "The BCCI has to wake up and get a proper bowling coach who can assist our bowlers. It's not only Ashwin, Jadeja, you know he has got his limitations but he is real [talent] himself as well. You've got to have a proper guide for these kids, who can tell them what is right and what is not.

"Someone has got to keep talking to these kids and stop them from thinking negatively. What needs to be urgently addressed is what is happening with the bowling coach. We had Bhuvneshwar Kumar bowling an Australian length; he's someone who pitches the ball up and takes wickets, but he has stopped swinging the ball. The urgent requirement is to look for somebody, a bowling coach who can guide our bowlers properly. And get a proper spinner guide for the spinners, we don't want to lose them quickly."

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Devashish Fuloria, who was on ESPNcricinfo's ball-by-ball commentary for the Bangladesh game, explained what was different about Ashwin on Wednesday:

During his three-plus years for India, Ashwin has bowled conventional offspin with a carom ball, the one that goes the other way. He has also experimented with his run-up, often using the pause just before the release as a surprise option. Another variation has been bowling with a round-arm action.

On Wednesday against Bangladesh, however, he produced a completely new-look action - and his wearing a full-sleeved jersey added to the sense of change. The approach to the crease was the same, but his release had a remarkable similarity to Sunil Narine's final push. For starters, the bowling action was visibly more front-on. Instead of the fingers going over the ball to impart velocity - and revs - to the ball, Ashwin was cutting the ball sideways with a quick snap of the wrist.

Recently, Ashwin has struggled with his lines. In his first spell in Fatullah, it can be said that he bowled with much-improved control, regularly tossing up deliveries outside off and getting them to deviate off the pitch. Even when he drifted on to the pads, he was still managing better control on the flight and dip - the components that he seemed to have lost in limited-overs cricket at least. The amount of spin ranged between sharp to non-existent, and those were the only variations he used in that spell.

He bowled his carom ball a few times in his second spell, but the offspinner delivered with his original action was not used during the day.

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  • rajuramki on February 28, 2014, 3:50 GMT

    Maninder,the nemesis of Miandad,is spot on in his analysis that Ashwin is not being handled properly . Common sense will tell us that a bowler who has taken just 18 tests to take 100 wickets cannot become useless overnight . None of us know what role does Dhoni expect Ashwin to perform . From his recent bowling in one dayers, one can clearly see that Ashwin is pitching the ball well outside the leg stump and trying to get the ball to spin into the batsmen .When there is no turn in the wicket , he concedes wides.This line of attack is only to dry the scoring oppurtunities for the batsman. Dhoni has to bring Ashwin more to attack the batsman than restrict the runs, for Ashwin to get back his rhythm.Prasanna is the best offspinner to train spinners and let BCCI avail his services for Indian attack to become more potent.

  • rnkbornfree on March 4, 2014, 19:40 GMT

    we need sehwag outside india still he has in him if bcci supports him , kamran khan should be given a chance gambhir yuvraj bring them back.....Rohit sharma ..raydu...jadeja ...ashwin should be drop and let them play ranji matches perform exceptionally well then pick them if needed otherwise bcci just wasting money on wrong players i guess ...ojha , mishra ... are just warming benches .........

  • TRAM on March 4, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    It is not just Ashwin. Dhoni does not know how to attack via bowling & fielding. He knows how attack via batting only. How many times Ashwin or any Ind bowler got both fwd shortleg and silly midoff. ? Why cant we have both?? especially since Ashwin bowls both off & leg breaks. Ask Prasanna or Bedi and they will tell how often they had the fielders crouching close to the batsman. I still remember (the radio commentary) when Chandra gave away 2 or 3 fours in one over and Wadekar kept the same field and gave him one more over. Chandra sent back two batsmen in that next over against WI. Clive Lloyd clean bowled. Or ask Kallicharan on Venkat's straighter ones.

    Dhoni should be shown the videos of such matches. And those legends are still there to help as bowling coaches. No point in moving a fielder to deep point immediately after one short ball was cut for four. We want to encourage the batsman to cut again. Thats how spinners get wickets.

  • spinkingKK on March 1, 2014, 13:31 GMT

    I don't know what is wrong. Ashwin has been good and is still good. When did Ashwin started bowling bad? I don't see it. May be he didn't get many wickets in the seaming wickets overseas. Which spinner does?

  • on March 1, 2014, 7:56 GMT

    Pls don't pick him outside SC......replace him with Rasool or Kuldeep as early as possible. My team for ENG tour, Dhawan, Vijay/Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Rohit, Dhoni, Jadeja, Shami, Ishant, Yadav, Aaron/Rishi D, Pandey, Saha, Rasool, Aparajith.

    If Aaron remains fully fit he should be picked,can be very much handy on those conditions with good pace and a bit of accuracy. Rishi Dhawan must be considered for the balance of the team.

  • on March 1, 2014, 4:43 GMT

    @GRVJPR... I really appreciate ur comments dear... u have just spot on.....u can made comments but on the field it is different. Ashwin is really a good spinner and better performer. He tries hard when he is on the field with his bat and when he is bowling. One thing is true that dhoni takes defensive field set when indian bowers are bowling. He tries to restrict run rather than picking up wickets because he thinks Indian batters can win matches with their abilities if his bowlers can restrict them even around 300-320 while playing in sub continent pitches. u can't blame him blindly for that since if indian bowlers earlier given a attacking field they used to bowl a juicy one in an over without of any commonsense. It is due to that dhoni used to take defensive field set. It is because of dhoni's field setting India caused these kind of woes. Indian bowers are also good in pitches where they can extract some assistance from the pitches. They proved that at times.

  • siddhartha87 on February 28, 2014, 10:09 GMT

    Ashwin's 100 wicket in 18 tests was absolute joke. He achieved that by playing against novice Aussie,Kiwi and Indies batsmen in doctored pitches. He got one chance to prove his worth against England but he was a massive failure in that series. Aussies have already decoded him in last ODI series and they marked the start of the demise of Ashwin. I was pretty sure that Ashwin will not survive this abroad tours specially the England and Australia tours and here we are two months into the 2014 and he has just one international wicket and the nightmares in England and Australia have not even started

  • on February 28, 2014, 9:07 GMT

    fairfan70. Indian bowlers bowled out NZ for 100 and 90 in the last two overseas Tests and you say they can't bowl outside India.

  • kingcobra85 on February 28, 2014, 7:58 GMT

    Two new balls and new rules isnt helping spin bowlers. Only if you can bowl darts you can succeed in ODI but there is no excuse in Tests

  • GRVJPR on February 28, 2014, 7:29 GMT

    Over the to reaction are well in Fashion It seems. I see nothing wrong in India's bowling. In fact teams like south africa and New Zealand have killed spin bowling by creating unresponsive tracks.

  • rajuramki on February 28, 2014, 3:50 GMT

    Maninder,the nemesis of Miandad,is spot on in his analysis that Ashwin is not being handled properly . Common sense will tell us that a bowler who has taken just 18 tests to take 100 wickets cannot become useless overnight . None of us know what role does Dhoni expect Ashwin to perform . From his recent bowling in one dayers, one can clearly see that Ashwin is pitching the ball well outside the leg stump and trying to get the ball to spin into the batsmen .When there is no turn in the wicket , he concedes wides.This line of attack is only to dry the scoring oppurtunities for the batsman. Dhoni has to bring Ashwin more to attack the batsman than restrict the runs, for Ashwin to get back his rhythm.Prasanna is the best offspinner to train spinners and let BCCI avail his services for Indian attack to become more potent.

  • rnkbornfree on March 4, 2014, 19:40 GMT

    we need sehwag outside india still he has in him if bcci supports him , kamran khan should be given a chance gambhir yuvraj bring them back.....Rohit sharma ..raydu...jadeja ...ashwin should be drop and let them play ranji matches perform exceptionally well then pick them if needed otherwise bcci just wasting money on wrong players i guess ...ojha , mishra ... are just warming benches .........

  • TRAM on March 4, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    It is not just Ashwin. Dhoni does not know how to attack via bowling & fielding. He knows how attack via batting only. How many times Ashwin or any Ind bowler got both fwd shortleg and silly midoff. ? Why cant we have both?? especially since Ashwin bowls both off & leg breaks. Ask Prasanna or Bedi and they will tell how often they had the fielders crouching close to the batsman. I still remember (the radio commentary) when Chandra gave away 2 or 3 fours in one over and Wadekar kept the same field and gave him one more over. Chandra sent back two batsmen in that next over against WI. Clive Lloyd clean bowled. Or ask Kallicharan on Venkat's straighter ones.

    Dhoni should be shown the videos of such matches. And those legends are still there to help as bowling coaches. No point in moving a fielder to deep point immediately after one short ball was cut for four. We want to encourage the batsman to cut again. Thats how spinners get wickets.

  • spinkingKK on March 1, 2014, 13:31 GMT

    I don't know what is wrong. Ashwin has been good and is still good. When did Ashwin started bowling bad? I don't see it. May be he didn't get many wickets in the seaming wickets overseas. Which spinner does?

  • on March 1, 2014, 7:56 GMT

    Pls don't pick him outside SC......replace him with Rasool or Kuldeep as early as possible. My team for ENG tour, Dhawan, Vijay/Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Rohit, Dhoni, Jadeja, Shami, Ishant, Yadav, Aaron/Rishi D, Pandey, Saha, Rasool, Aparajith.

    If Aaron remains fully fit he should be picked,can be very much handy on those conditions with good pace and a bit of accuracy. Rishi Dhawan must be considered for the balance of the team.

  • on March 1, 2014, 4:43 GMT

    @GRVJPR... I really appreciate ur comments dear... u have just spot on.....u can made comments but on the field it is different. Ashwin is really a good spinner and better performer. He tries hard when he is on the field with his bat and when he is bowling. One thing is true that dhoni takes defensive field set when indian bowers are bowling. He tries to restrict run rather than picking up wickets because he thinks Indian batters can win matches with their abilities if his bowlers can restrict them even around 300-320 while playing in sub continent pitches. u can't blame him blindly for that since if indian bowlers earlier given a attacking field they used to bowl a juicy one in an over without of any commonsense. It is due to that dhoni used to take defensive field set. It is because of dhoni's field setting India caused these kind of woes. Indian bowers are also good in pitches where they can extract some assistance from the pitches. They proved that at times.

  • siddhartha87 on February 28, 2014, 10:09 GMT

    Ashwin's 100 wicket in 18 tests was absolute joke. He achieved that by playing against novice Aussie,Kiwi and Indies batsmen in doctored pitches. He got one chance to prove his worth against England but he was a massive failure in that series. Aussies have already decoded him in last ODI series and they marked the start of the demise of Ashwin. I was pretty sure that Ashwin will not survive this abroad tours specially the England and Australia tours and here we are two months into the 2014 and he has just one international wicket and the nightmares in England and Australia have not even started

  • on February 28, 2014, 9:07 GMT

    fairfan70. Indian bowlers bowled out NZ for 100 and 90 in the last two overseas Tests and you say they can't bowl outside India.

  • kingcobra85 on February 28, 2014, 7:58 GMT

    Two new balls and new rules isnt helping spin bowlers. Only if you can bowl darts you can succeed in ODI but there is no excuse in Tests

  • GRVJPR on February 28, 2014, 7:29 GMT

    Over the to reaction are well in Fashion It seems. I see nothing wrong in India's bowling. In fact teams like south africa and New Zealand have killed spin bowling by creating unresponsive tracks.

  • siddhartha87 on February 28, 2014, 7:28 GMT

    India needs to start preferring players who are doing continuously well rather than selecting the player just on the basis of IPL. No doubt Mayank Sharma did well last IPL. But did he really deserved a place ahead of someone like Rishi Dhawan who dominated last year first class matches? Binny gets picked for NZ tour. He gets one game. He was did not get the opportunity to bat as Ashwin was sent higher in the order. And in bowling he gets just one over. And then he gets dropped from the next match. On the other hand Ashwin gets to play the whole series and what he does? takes just one wicket giving away 227 runs through out the whole series.(he was a massive failure in the series before this as well)When Mishra was selected for a full tour last time he took 18 wickets in 5ODIs.Frankly speaking this heavily biased selection procedures is hurting team India in a big way.

  • Karnamkotil on February 28, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    India must always hav an Indian spinner as their bowling coach. We must focus on traditional cricket, where the idea is to take wickets and stay fit. These days, the bowling action is modified to decrease the injuries. But, whats the use when ur main motto is not served? Look at Irfan Pathan - He is the perfect specimen of this experiment. Dhoni's batting is dashing & positive, but his Captaincy while bowling is all about negative vibes/ thoughts. Atleast he shud support the spinners to take wkts

  • GRVJPR on February 28, 2014, 7:22 GMT

    Amazing people calling head of bowling coach for Ashwin's performance. First of all Dawes was not a spinner. Secondly what you can coach to a bowler who is fastest to 100 test wickets. Third people say bring Shaun pollock, Akram as new coach - well they have no knowledge of spin bowling whatsoever. They will mess up him more. It is not like running up and down and ball seam up on tailormade pitches.

  • GRVJPR on February 28, 2014, 7:17 GMT

    If he is taht bad than Why he is fastest to 100 wickets in test macthes, Why Maninder failed to do it on tailormade pitches? Why Ajmal can't do it fater than Ashwin even with suspect action?? Why naraine struggles in test cricket? Why warne averaged 55 in India and Why Murali avergaed 45 in India? Can Maninder Singh Answer me? Also why Indian team of that era were never ranked above 7. Please Maninder Answer me!

  • on February 28, 2014, 7:06 GMT

    Ashwin , from the way he burst into the scene, his batting, his variations, the way he speaks in press conferences , etc, has shown that he is intelligent enough to handle himself. He will not go the way of some of the other bowlers in the past such as Maninder himself or Laxman Sivaramakrishnan, for he is not that young (18-19). He is around 26-27, a more mature age. He perfectly knows what he is doing. Plus he is a determined person. You can make that out from the improvements that he has done to his batting. One of the reasons why he may not be getting wickets could also be because of inadequate support "pressure" from the other end too. Once there is sustained pressure, from the other end, he will automatically get wickets.

  • uksar on February 28, 2014, 7:05 GMT

    Viewing Ashwin's bowling and batting in both Indian & overseas conditions, he seems to a better batman than a bowler. I think he can be played as a test all-rounder in all conditions. For ODI should be dropped and other spinner can be tried.

  • Rags57 on February 28, 2014, 7:04 GMT

    India has produced some of the greatest of spinners of all time - including the likes of Prasanna, Chandra, Bedi, Venkat and subsequently Maninder Singh, Kumble and Harbhajan. Virtually every one of these spinners would have walked into any Test XI in the world anytime but today ironically we have the Indian spinners struggling to take wickets even in the sub-continent if the pitch does not provide any help for the spinners. Why can we not get one of these great folks - Prasanna, Bedi, Venkat, Kumble or Maninder himself to be the Spin coach for the Indian team? With the kind of money BCCI can throw we can get a Pace coach and a Spin coach separately for the team. If Indian bowling does not improve we can forget about the number 1 test status for the foreseeable future.

  • Debaa on February 28, 2014, 6:53 GMT

    When Harbhajan was out of form, he was excluded from d team...bt same thing is not happened for Ashwin...this is d drawbck of Indian cricket...Ashwin is sure that he is a permanent member of the team either he is in form or not..so he might be thinking that-my performance will not hemper my place in d team...so what is d need for better performance???

  • balaji28 on February 28, 2014, 6:11 GMT

    Ashwin should be trained by prasanna or venkatraghavan , ashwin should continue with his old style of bowling but with an attacking mindset and it should be encouraged by virat and may be at the final few overs ashwin can bowl defensively but not at the start of the match.May be ashwin should flight the ball in the future series so that ashwin can once again become india's lethal spinner as he used to be.

  • on February 28, 2014, 5:50 GMT

    Ashwin- The so called "Great Spinner" is actually "The most over rated bowler of all time". Even his changing the bowling action is making the headlines. I don't know why he is being given so much importance. If he is not performing then bring Amit Mishra in the team. I know he is not in the India squad for Asia Cup, but bring him in if Ashwin's poor form continues. There is no need to give him that much of importance.

  • Pratik.Doshi on February 28, 2014, 5:39 GMT

    there is a similarity between the downfall of Harbhajan and Ashwin in recent times. T20 has taken a toll on their stock delivery i.e. the genuine conventional offspin. While the batters come up unusual strokes in T20, we have seen bowlers like Harbhajan and Ashwin fall prey by trying too many things in too little time and in the process losing their conventional offspin which is their stock delivery. This actually should be their main weapon. The rest can be tried once they are not getting their offspin going. Here we are seeing everything being tried than the conventional offspin. we have seen Bhajji and Ash firing deliveries down the legs from round the wkt and that has not allowed them to take wickets and become more and more predictable.

  • indiasupbangalore on February 28, 2014, 5:34 GMT

    Looks like someone is aiming to become the indian bowling coach, I have no problem with maninder becoming one.

  • fairfan70 on February 28, 2014, 5:19 GMT

    All Indian bowlers are only effective in Indian conditions - Ashwin particularly so. They are totally innocuous once they travel outside the country. With this kind of bowling attack and a batting line up that is still settling down after the departure of yesteryear stalwarts, India really belongs to the bottom half of the test/ODI rankings.

  • kartcric on February 28, 2014, 5:16 GMT

    Ashwin and Bhuvneshwar kumar have gone sour.They both emerged into the scene as wicket-takers.But now they are not doing that and also are leaking runs.Ashwin has unnecessarily tried too many variations and has lost his ability to break partnerships in the middle overs.More than Ashwin i am disappointed with Bhuvnesh.His role is to take 2-3 wickets with the new ball but he is not doing that.He is not a death bowler too.Then his role comes into question.His problem is that he lacks variations.He can swing the ball both ways but he bowls only the inswingers nowadays.He should know that outswinger is a more dangerous ball to face for the batsman.Ash and Bhuvi needs to return to their original ways for india to defend the world cup next summer.

  • StreetView on February 28, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    Maninder is spot on. Ashwin has shown the ability in the past but something seems wrong with him now. Hope he sorts it out. And Joe Dawes needs to be replaced for God's sake.

  • Pacelikefire_Samrat on February 28, 2014, 5:02 GMT

    The latest ODI rules are to be blamed partly for the demise of Ashwin's bowling and his transition from a match winner to a pedestrian bowler who doesnt know what he is doing out there.The rule allowing only 4 fielders outside the ring has totally changed the way the bowlers operate.Spinners are afraid to toss the ball up,coz even if there is a mishit the ball clears the short boundaries with ridiculous ease or even if it doesnt it falls in one of the vacant spaces,so the poor bowler can only bowl a restricting line and in this case on middle and leg stump and that too operating in very straight lines.As for the fast bowler with two new balls being used,the element of reverse swing is totally lost,so he relies only on bowling length outside off expecting the batsman to make an error.With too many t-20'S being played,the onus is on restricting rather than taking wickets.I am quite sad to notice the demise of the yorker,I hardly see any bowler bowl it now a days.Sad story totally.

  • on February 28, 2014, 4:58 GMT

    Ashwin in my view is needed compulsorily in tests more than Odi. Jadeja could be better than him in Odi.

  • on February 28, 2014, 4:56 GMT

    Aswin performed on wickets that highly assisting spin bowling against relatively inexperienced visiting sides. As far as he is off breaks are concerned it's not the best. He is not a natural spinner of the ball like harbhajan. It's hard to master the art. You have a natural action method for bowling. A coach can assist you to improve and make it a little better. But I don't think ashwin is a natural spinner of the ball. It's better to try amit misra, parvez rasool or even a kuldeep yadav would be a better option. Bowling cannot be clumsy in big tournaments. Aswins bowling lack the byte and recent performances are below par.

  • on February 28, 2014, 4:55 GMT

    Yes captain and strategies are major contributions of the this current failure of Ashwin. Independent bowling coach would help before such kind of failure become usual in bowling department.

  • dganger on February 28, 2014, 4:53 GMT

    Indian team management is the worst in the world, they are ruining talents. My request you to all the biggies of the BCCI (If they care at all for the improvement of Indian cricket and not only the money making agenda) and the FAV 5 ( Sachin, Saurav, Rahul, VVS & Kumble) to come forward. Time has come to step in and to clear the management howlers. You dont need DRS to confirm whats happening in Indian Cricket, team think tank is in all time low without any direction. In the process talented players getting hurt and lost in the process. I am really shocked to read the news that Fletcher will get extention. Extention for what?? to continue the mindless rampage? lesser er talk about the bowling coach is better....it has become a joke now.Please guys..step in, a cry from an ardent Indian cricket fan and I do believe this team got the right talents to win next year world cup. They just need proper guidance and handling of players. I seriously dont know what Dhoni can deliver.

  • on February 28, 2014, 4:49 GMT

    No matter how ashwin is handled he continues to be the same . God knows what he is trying ! He is good in the entertainment programme 'IPL' and when dust bowls will be given in India. Like praying to the almighty for rains in a drought stricken area , we must pray to the almighty to give us even one half the vintage Prasanna or at least the vintage Bhajji of '2001.

  • Sunman81 on February 28, 2014, 4:43 GMT

    Ashwin lost his bowling completely, Bhuvi lost his outswingers and too an extent Shami lost his reverse swing... Looks like these people are not advised to bowl to their strength... With India having only 4 specialist bowler it's important that all 4 are used as strike bowler... when the captain talks of restricting role for a bowler that brings their down fall... no point blaming the bowlers.. it's a case of improper guidance and lack of mentoring... Well Said Maninder!

  • siddhartha87 on February 28, 2014, 4:30 GMT

    Ashwin should not to be "handled" at all from now on. He does not deserve a place in the team. He is a mediocre spinner at best who will perform only in heavily doctored pitch that too against a team of new comers.He failed to make any impression against the class of Cook and KP

  • ravi-1967 on February 28, 2014, 4:27 GMT

    Ashwin is not a talented bowler. He has only picked up wickets at home and has been flop show outside. In South Africa during the first test he was useless and the match was drawn when actuall India should have Won it. Ashwin played a key role in India not winning the match.

    Nowadays he is a misfit for T20 and ODIs. We need to bring back Amit Mishra, Piyush CHawla or the other off spinners on the horizon.

    Ashwin is done in dusted in my opinion.

  • on February 28, 2014, 4:23 GMT

    After seeing ashwin's agressive intent earlier in his career,I saw a test captain in him.He was a thinking guy,who could bat well,bowl well and field well.He had an average of 2 wickets per match early in his ODI career.But now,he is not even close to that.He had an intent of picking wickets and he was a bowler who could bowl in powerplay and death overs.He seemed to have a lot of variations. But due to some problems,he is lagging behind in bowling department than other counterparts.He need proper coaching along with hard work.First of all he is needed to master in his art of off-spin rather than trying those leg-breaks and googlies.You know,a master in all is master in none.Then only he should take care of his batting.

  • on February 28, 2014, 4:01 GMT

    Maninder himself was a world class bowler who was not handled well on tough tours of Pakistan and West Indies in the early 80s and then had a very average test career, though he did pick himself off the mat for a while. So he knows what he is talking about.

    When Venkatesh Prasad was the bowling coach, the bowlers were handled better and one had the feeling we had a pool of fast bowlers. Today that sense is completely gone.

  • MaruthuDelft on February 28, 2014, 3:32 GMT

    Remember Ashwin is an international cricketer not an under 15 player needs guidance. He was hyped about a lot. He spoke like a confident young man. Then I saw him at the WC. His spinners looked so defensive with no real fizz. I couldn't decide. Then this happened. In the last test against Windies in his first tour he needed to score very few runs in the last over to win the test with India already having a 2-0 lead. He didn't go for it. I knew then he was not a good cricketer. Not just now but all along he has been negative. But he got a lot of wickets in India; how? I can't pinpoint the reason but in India often individuals who don't deserve it get up to the chair; this is why cricket played in India don't carry much value as cricket played in England, Australia and South Africa.

  • Snambidi on February 28, 2014, 3:21 GMT

    Maninder Singh ,the former Bowler had said the right opinion. Aswin needs correction. He should not try to imitate other spinners like Ajmal or Narain. He should keep his original Style up his sleeves. His own action is good enough to keep himself among WICKETS. He has added advantage of being good player with Bat too. Every bowler at one time or other might have experienced lack of form .This does not mean anything wrong. Aswin should stick to his original style Syed Ajmal does not appear to be such a big Bowler like Anil Kumble. Besides,he had made a unwanted comment that the Legend Sachin Tendulkar ,the hero of owning all kinds of records in Cricket,had opted to quit from One day cricket because he was afraid of facing Ajmal.This remark clearly shows the spirit of Ajmal. Why Aswin why you want to follow Ajmal.? Please keep up your own style which is not at all bad . If one likes to imitate others it amounts to the fact that he is lacking Confidence & Selfrespect in himself.NO ASWIN!

  • on February 28, 2014, 2:46 GMT

    What Mani said absolutely right , Ashwin needs right advice, as a off spinner some one like EAS Prasanna or Kumble would be the right choice

  • on February 28, 2014, 2:03 GMT

    Don't know about Ashwin but there is a reason why Indian pacers don't get wickets. Dhoni stands way too deep for Indian pacers' speed. Which makes slips stand deeper as well. In each test at least three edges don't carry to the men behind. If Dhoni likes to collect the ball with hands down he should better hand over the gloves to someone else. Even Devillers and Haddin don't stand so deep despite the express pace of there attacks.

  • JoieDeVivre on February 28, 2014, 1:50 GMT

    Trouble is with the captain whose priority is save the game before you can think of winning a Test Match. Classic example is Nathan Lyon, the way Michael Clarke handles him is a perfect recipe for any captain to handle a spin bowler. I'm not a spin bowling expert but you have to say R Ashwin and Ravi Jadeja aren't the worst bowlers and the figures they've had in the last few months are true reflection of the way India has played and the way MSD has been using them. If the issue is not addressed now there is very strong possibility that we might just go further downhill and we will start becoming an embarrassment when we tour (not that we aren't). Changing a captain for Test Matches is a good start point but we in India don't believe in having 2 captains for 2 formats so that's not going to happen but at least the thinking has to change not just from MSD but from the 2 spinners, if they walk to MSD and say chuck this whole thing and get a bit more proactive results will change for sure.

  • Mail4kar on February 28, 2014, 1:41 GMT

    BOLD and TRUE STATEMENT..!! We lost Bhajji already. His aggression, commitment towards the game, every thing has gone.. May be bcoz of the same guidance issue.. We're not ready to loose Ashwin..!! It's MSD who used to be defensive, made Ashwin the same.. Need someone like Sourav as Head coach and also aggressive attacking mindset Bowling coach..

  • on February 28, 2014, 1:38 GMT

    Where comes Dhoni's captaincy ai present? Let the new captain Kohli inject positive attitude to the bowler to Ashwin to take more wickets.

  • RAVI71 on February 28, 2014, 1:24 GMT

    Very Well said Mr. Maninder. India never had specialist coaches. Look at aussie team, they got McDermott back and it worked magics with their fast bowlers. I watched the game against Bangladesh Bhuvi was bowling short balls which were pulled easily. number of fast bowlers were thrown out of Indian team after they had successfull starts. Coach Fletcher is a total waste his inclusion as coach is to focus on Indian team and winning overseas. Pathetic thing is India lost test series to England at home during his time. SACK the COACH DUSTIN FLETCHER now or we will have another disasterous tour against England.

  • Tarakeshwar on February 28, 2014, 1:17 GMT

    I am sure Ashwin is smart enough, to realize what he his doing. He has tried Ajmal before, and he his doing something which no spinner has done in the past. There are some bunch of people who want to bring back Harbhajan, and I would like to remind them, that, he should first earn his place back by solid performances in domestic cricket, not just because some ppl want him to come back.

    Not to forget the batting prowess of R. Ashwin!!!

  • the_blue_android on February 28, 2014, 0:52 GMT

    @ Leg-Breaker, you serious about Amit Mishra? Did you look at the guy bowl before? He bowls at 45 MPH and it slows down even further once he's tired, which is about after bowling 3 overs. There is a reason why he gets tonked even by tailenders. Hell, even I could smack him for a 6 or two at that pace. A Spinner needs to zip through the air and impart revs on the ball not just push it through in the air.

  • Alexk400 on February 28, 2014, 0:31 GMT

    if there is one person ashwin copy action is Abdul razzak from Bangladesh. What arm ball he has. Its tantalizing. He should be wreaking havoc if he played for india. The beauty about that arm ball is that you do not know where its landing. awsome.

  • on February 28, 2014, 0:29 GMT

    Players at the international level are not required to be hand-held by coaches and support staff. They should be self-starters, and to that extent I admire Ashwin for trying out something new when the originality was wearing out and he wasn't getting results. Let us not overplay the role of coaches and support staff. They should be there to guide and assist when needed, not to hand-hold.

  • on February 28, 2014, 0:22 GMT

    Ashwin's performance on domestic pitches is also declining. If anyone has short memories, pl look at the videos of the games played by England against India IN INDIA!

  • on February 28, 2014, 0:18 GMT

    Now, when are thy going to destroy Shami too?

  • SidGraphite on February 27, 2014, 23:59 GMT

    Maninder is spot on with the bowling coach selection.. Venky Prasad is the man .. Even Muralitharan can be made a coach.. Better than Joe Dawg

  • on February 27, 2014, 23:48 GMT

    The needle of the pendulum points to the fact this time Dhoni's captaincy is in question and bowling is losing its grip , venom and becoming far less incisive .He really should take it easy on captaincy concentrate on batting and wk; give the reins to kohli who can also gain some more experience and maturity as captain . When the team is ready for the big event., Dhoni can regain his captaincy after the long break.

    Meanwhile it is important and imperative two bowling coaches - one for fast bowling and one spin bowling coach should be present for the moment till the World Cup to fortify the present lackluster bowling which is also in a sinking ship.

  • on February 27, 2014, 23:15 GMT

    Indian team should have a bowling captain because bowler knows who can bowl in what situation, bowling is neglected in indian cricket that's why we never have good bowlers, batting captain should take responsibility and bowling captain should take bowling responsibility. this will ease pressure on captains as well, and fast bowlers should be always in grade A in contract, because it takes a lot bowl fast. and good bowlers can win matches only.

  • sss_m19 on February 27, 2014, 22:43 GMT

    After sachin, from 2011,probably the other cricketer who has more number of articles on cricinfo is Ashwin I think..for his every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction...pity..

  • InsideHedge on February 27, 2014, 22:41 GMT

    I guess it hasn't occurred to too many that Ashwin is a fairly ORDINARY bowler, an appalling fielder/runner between the wickets and a talented batsman. Over time, you will see him transforming into a middle order batsman who will challenge Rahane and Rayudu outright. The latter two I'm unconvinced with, even Rahane who has hit a recent Test ton.

    BTW, did anyone notice Pujara's low class running between the wickets or indeed his lack of ability to chase a ball in the field? Here's another guy who can only perform in ONE function, namely batting. When you put all your eggs in one basket, your basket better be special.

    India continues to develop batsmen who can't bowl and field, and bowlers who can't bat and field. The common denominator is FIELDING.

    Back to Ashwin, owner of a horrible bowling action with a laughable doosra that's been termed "carrom ball". I don't believe batsmen fear him.

  • class9ryan on February 27, 2014, 22:31 GMT

    Lots to do with mentality of Ashwin and Dhoni together at the moment....

  • on February 27, 2014, 22:24 GMT

    well... I guess some people really have problems with dhoni...... any important.... crisis.. just blame dhoni. I dont think the indian players are performing well enough.. and the captain has the right to get upset.Ashwin.. has lost form.. and he requires some home games to get back. he has performed with the bat. stop blaming dhoni for everything

  • the_blue_android on February 27, 2014, 22:23 GMT

    As long as Mr Pretentious is trying to copy bowling actions, can he attempt to copy Mitch's bowling action? ;) May be we will have a bowler who can bowl 125 KMPH?

  • looserSk on February 27, 2014, 22:18 GMT

    How many chance and how many failures???? How can we consider Ashwin a good performer when he has just 104 Test Wickets(94% of them are in India). Jadeja has started test career better than Ashwin(debatable). He looks very ordinary spinner if compared to Saeed Ajmal and Narine. Finally lets talk about Maninder Singh Test record played 35 and wickets 88. Which is very ordinary and non debatable. For me he shouldn't be writing article after that drug incident. If someone can coach spin in India is Anil Kumble. I think india should try to find new spinners. I dont know since when 10 overs 50 runs became very economical yet people here write its good. Dhoni has to look for better spinning options in ODI's and Test. Jadeja should be playing as All rounder we need attacking spinner. Given chance Amit Mishra is India's best spinner, he has more variety.

  • JAYPEs on February 27, 2014, 22:16 GMT

    Well spotted Mr Maninder Singh, But the Indian Ruling Class will Never ever recognise another Indian as Cricket coach. They are so much obsessed with foreigners............................I still remember the old times when Mohinder Amarnath wanted to be the Indian Coach............................I am sure that even this time the curries will be made specially for another Foreign Coach.

  • on February 27, 2014, 21:48 GMT

    It's true. I agree with maninder ..

  • Al_Bundy1 on February 27, 2014, 21:38 GMT

    Maninder is completely wrong - Ashwin does not need further guidance - He needs to be sent back to Ranji Trophy to sort out his bowling. When a bowler says his job is to restrict runs in a test match - that means he does not understand the concept of Test match, and hence does not deserve to play tests.

    This is a golden opportunity for selectors to try other promising young spinners like Parvez Rasool or Nadeem. When a former great spinner like Bedi thinks Rasool is ready for team India - what are the selectors waiting for??

  • MiddleStump on February 27, 2014, 21:31 GMT

    We had a glorious spin quartet in the 70s and then Kumble. Prasanna had openly offered to help current spinners just a few weeks back. It would do immense good if the BCCI picks half a dozen spinners and get them trained in the finer points of spin bowling. Unless the captain and the bowling coach want their spinners to forever remain defensive for the sake of ODI and T20 matches.

  • on February 27, 2014, 21:24 GMT

    i don't know what jadeja is doing in the test team i think jadeja is a great player in odis and t-20 but he shouldn't be in the test team as for ashwin he is great in the asian pitches but doesn't seem to get wickets in foreign pitches maybe playing county cricket instead of ipl would be great for indian bowlers

  • ProdigyA on February 27, 2014, 21:20 GMT

    Today's Pak vs Afg match is a great example. Needing about 250, Afg got of to a great start, then Ajmal was introduced and he picks up a wicket in his very first over from there on it went all down hill for Afg. Thats what your strike bowler is supposed to do - PICK WICKETS not contain runs like a part-timer.

    We have lost all the matches in NZ because in middle overs, the spinners did not strike allowing the opposition to settle in and lauch themselves at the death against the pace attack who end up taking all the blame. Blame the spinners for not picking up wickets.

    I think Mishra must be given a chance.

  • IndCricFan2013 on February 27, 2014, 20:04 GMT

    I agree with Maninder that Ashwin is not handled properly by MS Dhoni. All the bowlers not bowling to their strength, they are not getting filed placements to take wickets, they fall to the Dhoni's way of thinking. The point is Dhoni backs them even when they do not perform, but he wants them to play to his minds. There is nothing wrong in learning and trying out many variation, but you got put only some of them to use to take wickets. Variations are good for T20, may not be for tests. Another thing is every one thinks Ashwin is an intelligent cricketer ( and he is), so they let him try what ever he brings on. So, the part where Ashwin is affected is, Dhoni mindset is such that he is always not using him, ie, not placing fields for him to take wickets. That is the problem.

  • on February 27, 2014, 19:54 GMT

    He is spot on with his statements. What in the world is joe dawes doing? This is not a zimbabwe bowling attack and we don't want to create one either. Why does BCCI look forward to average overseas players for coaching when India has produced alot of match winners in the past. Why can't the local guys have their own countrymen to coach them. The environment would be much much better in thr dressing room. Even a pakistani player like Wasim Akram or Waqar younis can do the job who speak hindi and have been legends in the past. As far as spin is concerned we have brilliant spin coaches in India. Come on BCCI, you've got to step up.

  • myStraightTalk on February 27, 2014, 19:51 GMT

    Maninder is right. Spinner need to have the intent to take wicket and its not happening with Ashwin.

  • Leg-Breaker on February 27, 2014, 19:44 GMT

    For people who say Ashwin is 'clearly' talented, not sure where the clearly is coming from. His home and away average gap is huge - probably the biggest in bowling history (cricinfo, please check)

    I do not follow domestic cricket that much - but there are allways spinners knocking on the doors and I am surprised we can't find another quality spinner and I am shocked that amit misra is not even being tried for a game....this is ridiculous, right? like bob dylan may sing, "how many games must ashwin not win, until we play another spinner?"

  • on February 27, 2014, 19:41 GMT

    At last some one breaks the silence over the crux of the issue...

    Why can't BCCI give up its ego and appoint Kapil Dev as the bowling coach? Why not Srinath or Kumble? If these past players can work with Ranji teams, surely they can work with the national team! Wake up BCCI!

    We need INDIANs as Bowling & Head Coaches from April 2nd.

    Time is running... Rembr We r defending Champion! Is as much shame to lose tht Defending pride than it winning in 2011. V have to show tht,v r the guys can able to Win a WC in Outside ASIA !

    Hurry Up BCCI ! We have have money! we have power ! Y don't we take some risky decision. Exactly 350 Days from here to WC !

  • AjaySridharan on February 27, 2014, 19:36 GMT

    You actually need a bowling coach for fast bowlers and one for spin bowlers. I can't imagine a Maninder Singh advising fast bowlers or a Kapil Dev advising spin bowlers. Nevertheless a good sales pitch from Maninder for the job of India's bowling coach :)

  • Anubhav-the-Experience on February 27, 2014, 19:25 GMT

    Cricinfoers.... we have been saying the same thing since australia tour....bhajji was also a good bowler but somehow spinners and in fact all bowlers are somehow loosing the plot in medium term...I don't know if its Dhoni's t20 mentality or something else but these bowlers brains has got re-wired by time...Look at ajmal...he relies on off spin to take wickets...and his face looks like a face of an animal salivating who knows food is near. Ashwin looks like a scarred puppy who is wishing batsman does something stupid. I think Ajmal is within top 4 spinners ever, only because of his attitude...may he take a hell lot of wickets except that of Indians.

  • ansram on February 27, 2014, 19:25 GMT

    Not just Ashwin, the whole team is defensive for a while now. Fortunately we have great batsmen like Kohli else we would be loosing most of the matches with this approach. Shami is the only bowler who has shown promise of late.

  • atheros1672 on February 27, 2014, 19:17 GMT

    @GRVJPR: Yesterday he played against Bangladesh (no offense) which is not the best batting team.... ... Every bowler will have a few matches where he would have a bad day.. Even Steyn has had a few bad bowling days.... But what makes Steyn stand out and be the best bowler in the world is by working on his strengths....... Ash is an attacking spinner... Thats how he broke into the indian side and claimed all the wickets.. Nw Dhoni has turned him into a defensive test bowler. Why would a off spinner bowl around the stumps to a right hander (essentially taking LBW out of equation). He uses a 3-6 field in tests while bowling round the stumps. That attitude has rubbed off in ODI's also for him. Maninder rightly points out that we need a person to stop dhoni from destroying bowlers and then crib about his bowlers being bad. As for as BWLR NEEDS TO EVOLVE--- Totally agreed... But how many times do you want to evolve? BTW, isnt the point of evolving to become better? tats clearly not the case

  • inswing on February 27, 2014, 19:15 GMT

    Maninder is absolutely right. Ashwin has done very well inside India and is clearly talented. How can he do _so_ badly outside India? He averages 75! That is ridiculously bad. It could be due to Dhoni's negativity and in competence of the bowling coach (who is he?). There should be immediate changes to coaching and captaincy.

  • on February 27, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    wel india should look 4 another bowler.ashwin should be sended back to domestic level.actly what i think. ..give him a break....let him play some cricket at domestic level...if he starts performing wel bring him back.

  • vakkaraju on February 27, 2014, 19:08 GMT

    Dhoni's formula for cricket has been to score as many runs as possible and restrict the other team. Works fairly well in ODIs, since you need to bowl only 50 overs. wickets are not important. In tests this strategy backfires, like in NZ recently. No thought of attack or wickets. Bowl in the right areas hope the batters make mistakes. No plan or hope of inducing errors. No plan "buy" wickets like the spinners of old like Bedi, Prasanna, et al. So all the bowlers are programmed by the captain to contain. Need drastic rethinking? You bet.

  • GRVJPR on February 27, 2014, 18:57 GMT

    I don't know what is the problem with maninder singh. Bowlers need to keep evolving in international cricket. Ashwin did alright yesterday and that is what matters. Take wickets and keep runs down, all else is theory.

  • ProdigyA on February 27, 2014, 18:55 GMT

    Many thanks to cricinfo for bringing in the views of Maninder Singh.

    I had suggested long ago that Maninder should be brought into the Indian role specially to assist the spinners. Spin used to be India's trump card, be it Indian conditions or overseas and for the past few years, specially after the deciline of Bhajji, Indian spin department under Duncan and Dhoni have just lost their way.

    I remember Kumble or Bhajii contributing regularly to the wickets column no matter what the conditions were but now all the flank and critisism goes to the fast bowlers but you cant expect them to take 20 wickets on their own with no help from the spin bowlers.

    BCCI, pls bring in Maninder, he is a guy who does not hesitate to give a kick on the back side whenever necessary and our bowlers are desperatly need that.

  • the_blue_android on February 27, 2014, 18:53 GMT

    Well, what do you expect when you pick a spinner based on his shennanigans in the T20 format? You get a below par bowler who is overrated and then his bluff is out in couple seasons max. Get a real off spinner who imparts some revs and zip behind the ball. Has anyone looked at his physique recently? He has no finger strength and no arm strength. How is he going to impart any revs on the ball? He has said in interviews that he takes his pressure cooker along with him on tours and cooks his own rice and eats curd rice for dinner? What sort of an international sportsman does that? Before anyone cries regionalism, I'm from the south and I eat curd rice every night but if I was an international sportsman and my career depended on me being as fit as I can be, I'd certainly be not eating simple carbs every night for dinner.

  • on February 27, 2014, 18:51 GMT

    at last some one breaks the silence over the crux of the issue... now some people were asking what was wrong with Dhoni's defensive style of captaincy... well, you have your answer! I can't agree more with the things said by Maninder here... Ashwin was that guy who took 6-33 on debut; took 5 wickets on an unresponsive day 1 pitch at Chennai against Aus when no other bowler got more than 2... he was the guy who topped the chart for most wickets at the 2010 CLT20 which was held in SA (he beat Murali in the race)... after all the modifications to his bowling, he looks incapable of taking wickets even on indian pitches! Pathetic state of affairs ! Joe Dawes needs to be sacked with immediate effect... Why not hire BS Bedi who moulded Parvez Rasool into a good spinner? Why can't BCCI give up its ego and appoint Kapil Dev as the bowling coach? Why not Srinath or Kumble? If these past players can work with Ranji teams, surely they can work with the national team! Wake up BCCI!

  • 0080001 on February 27, 2014, 18:48 GMT

    maninder is wrongly criticising him bcoz ashwim must have tried everything and failed so only he changed his action let him work with that for a while and see how it goes

  • 0080001 on February 27, 2014, 18:48 GMT

    maninder is wrongly criticising him bcoz ashwim must have tried everything and failed so only he changed his action let him work with that for a while and see how it goes

  • on February 27, 2014, 18:51 GMT

    at last some one breaks the silence over the crux of the issue... now some people were asking what was wrong with Dhoni's defensive style of captaincy... well, you have your answer! I can't agree more with the things said by Maninder here... Ashwin was that guy who took 6-33 on debut; took 5 wickets on an unresponsive day 1 pitch at Chennai against Aus when no other bowler got more than 2... he was the guy who topped the chart for most wickets at the 2010 CLT20 which was held in SA (he beat Murali in the race)... after all the modifications to his bowling, he looks incapable of taking wickets even on indian pitches! Pathetic state of affairs ! Joe Dawes needs to be sacked with immediate effect... Why not hire BS Bedi who moulded Parvez Rasool into a good spinner? Why can't BCCI give up its ego and appoint Kapil Dev as the bowling coach? Why not Srinath or Kumble? If these past players can work with Ranji teams, surely they can work with the national team! Wake up BCCI!

  • the_blue_android on February 27, 2014, 18:53 GMT

    Well, what do you expect when you pick a spinner based on his shennanigans in the T20 format? You get a below par bowler who is overrated and then his bluff is out in couple seasons max. Get a real off spinner who imparts some revs and zip behind the ball. Has anyone looked at his physique recently? He has no finger strength and no arm strength. How is he going to impart any revs on the ball? He has said in interviews that he takes his pressure cooker along with him on tours and cooks his own rice and eats curd rice for dinner? What sort of an international sportsman does that? Before anyone cries regionalism, I'm from the south and I eat curd rice every night but if I was an international sportsman and my career depended on me being as fit as I can be, I'd certainly be not eating simple carbs every night for dinner.

  • ProdigyA on February 27, 2014, 18:55 GMT

    Many thanks to cricinfo for bringing in the views of Maninder Singh.

    I had suggested long ago that Maninder should be brought into the Indian role specially to assist the spinners. Spin used to be India's trump card, be it Indian conditions or overseas and for the past few years, specially after the deciline of Bhajji, Indian spin department under Duncan and Dhoni have just lost their way.

    I remember Kumble or Bhajii contributing regularly to the wickets column no matter what the conditions were but now all the flank and critisism goes to the fast bowlers but you cant expect them to take 20 wickets on their own with no help from the spin bowlers.

    BCCI, pls bring in Maninder, he is a guy who does not hesitate to give a kick on the back side whenever necessary and our bowlers are desperatly need that.

  • GRVJPR on February 27, 2014, 18:57 GMT

    I don't know what is the problem with maninder singh. Bowlers need to keep evolving in international cricket. Ashwin did alright yesterday and that is what matters. Take wickets and keep runs down, all else is theory.

  • vakkaraju on February 27, 2014, 19:08 GMT

    Dhoni's formula for cricket has been to score as many runs as possible and restrict the other team. Works fairly well in ODIs, since you need to bowl only 50 overs. wickets are not important. In tests this strategy backfires, like in NZ recently. No thought of attack or wickets. Bowl in the right areas hope the batters make mistakes. No plan or hope of inducing errors. No plan "buy" wickets like the spinners of old like Bedi, Prasanna, et al. So all the bowlers are programmed by the captain to contain. Need drastic rethinking? You bet.

  • on February 27, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    wel india should look 4 another bowler.ashwin should be sended back to domestic level.actly what i think. ..give him a break....let him play some cricket at domestic level...if he starts performing wel bring him back.

  • inswing on February 27, 2014, 19:15 GMT

    Maninder is absolutely right. Ashwin has done very well inside India and is clearly talented. How can he do _so_ badly outside India? He averages 75! That is ridiculously bad. It could be due to Dhoni's negativity and in competence of the bowling coach (who is he?). There should be immediate changes to coaching and captaincy.

  • atheros1672 on February 27, 2014, 19:17 GMT

    @GRVJPR: Yesterday he played against Bangladesh (no offense) which is not the best batting team.... ... Every bowler will have a few matches where he would have a bad day.. Even Steyn has had a few bad bowling days.... But what makes Steyn stand out and be the best bowler in the world is by working on his strengths....... Ash is an attacking spinner... Thats how he broke into the indian side and claimed all the wickets.. Nw Dhoni has turned him into a defensive test bowler. Why would a off spinner bowl around the stumps to a right hander (essentially taking LBW out of equation). He uses a 3-6 field in tests while bowling round the stumps. That attitude has rubbed off in ODI's also for him. Maninder rightly points out that we need a person to stop dhoni from destroying bowlers and then crib about his bowlers being bad. As for as BWLR NEEDS TO EVOLVE--- Totally agreed... But how many times do you want to evolve? BTW, isnt the point of evolving to become better? tats clearly not the case

  • ansram on February 27, 2014, 19:25 GMT

    Not just Ashwin, the whole team is defensive for a while now. Fortunately we have great batsmen like Kohli else we would be loosing most of the matches with this approach. Shami is the only bowler who has shown promise of late.