Champions League T20 2011 May 25, 2011

IPL considering CLT20 qualifying stage

ESPNcricinfo staff
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The IPL governing council is considering holding an additional qualifying stage for the 2011 Champions League T20 a few days before the main event, which would give a fourth IPL team a chance to play in it.

"Fourth team may have the opportunity to play CLT20," Sundar Raman, the IPL chief executive, tweeted on May 22. "But they need to play a qualifier tournament a few days before CLT20 with 3 other teams."

According to Raman's twitter feed, the tournament proper is scheduled to be held from September 23 to October 9 in India. The qualifying event - if it gets the green light - will have to be shoe-horned into the tightly packed international schedule, in the week following India's tour of England, that ends on September 16.

When contacted by ESPNcricinfo, Raman did not confirm or deny there were plans for a qualifying tournament, saying in an email, "We will inform the media on the developments around CLT20 soon", but a member of the Champions League governing council told ESPNcricinfo that the tournament would be formally confirmed at the end of the governing council meeting in Chennai on Sunday.

Meanwhile the Times of India reported on Tuesday that the three other teams in the potential qualifier would be the domestic T20 champions from New Zealand, Sri Lanka and West Indies, with the top two teams qualifying for the Champions League proper after a six-match tournament.

If the qualifier were to take place, that would turn the Champions League into a 10-team tournament from a 12-team one. Three teams from India, two each from Australia and South Africa and one from England would have guaranteed spots in the event. The competition for the remaining two spots would leave at least one of New Zealand, Sri Lanka and West Indies without representation, with two countries standing to lose out if the fourth IPL team qualifies.

According to the Times of India, one of the reasons for the qualifier is to make sure the strongest teams make it to the main event. Given the $1 billion ESPN Star spent on the television rights for the event, there is a concern about television ratings, which have been subdued compared to the IPL. So far most of the viewer interest has centered on the IPL teams, which is another incentive for more IPL participation.

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  • on May 28, 2011, 20:20 GMT

    see 4 is too much we shall have 3 indian 3 sa 3 aus 1 wi 2 sri(they will improve with SPL)1 nz 1 bang 1 zim and 3 eng 2 pak if any clubs in associates

  • jattkadanda on May 28, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    haha this is a joke right...why its called champions league when the world champions of t20 England, Pakistan dont play and runners up..of IPL are in it..????

  • on May 28, 2011, 6:46 GMT

    come on bcci.....wats goin on , it must be clt20, don make tat too also as iplt20..... give evry country a chance to showcase their talents.... don be money minded....pls cricinfo, take all these comments somehow to bcci.... and show dem wat ppl hav for clt20

  • on May 28, 2011, 5:20 GMT

    SL AND NZ TEAMS ARE DRE JUST TO BE KIDDED WITH

  • on May 27, 2011, 20:36 GMT

    great..2 ipls in a year!..whats next?...champions cup?..like the European cup?...where the rest of the 6 ipl teams will participate?

  • on May 27, 2011, 18:26 GMT

    Champions League has to maintain a certain sanctity or winning the champions league will not earn the same reputation for a team as that of its football counterpart... The rules are being bent and twist to ensure the maximization of IPL teams just to score more ratings..

  • on May 27, 2011, 16:26 GMT

    BCCI rokin decision , if it proceeds

  • on May 27, 2011, 15:46 GMT

    What can IPL teams without oversears???

  • on May 27, 2011, 15:33 GMT

    What BCCI wants?? Why they r too much greedy?? There is no team from Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. And they are calling it CLT!!! Look at d UEFA Champions Legeuge,they take team from every country how ever they play. Their aim is to spead football. But BCCI wants to earn more money through this IPL teams

  • addiemanav on May 27, 2011, 14:54 GMT

    then couple of yrs later they will add another 6 teams into ipl thus making 16,and hav a qualification round for the top 8,then hav the regular ipl format that they had for 3 yrs!!wow!!thus in a span of 4 months they will generate 40billion$ revenue by having 502 t20 games,5.5 lac balls bolwed,12.4 lac runs scored by 34534 players,16 thousand 6s,2000 cheer-girls,500 commentators telling u this is the best thing on the planet,4500 injured players,4355 rebel players,15-20 sid mallya's girl friends,3244 umpires,12992 retired playrs,5345 retired plyrs coming back from the dead,players salaries more than 100 million$ and.............zero TEST CRICKET!!plus a few disgusted fans like me!!

  • on May 28, 2011, 20:20 GMT

    see 4 is too much we shall have 3 indian 3 sa 3 aus 1 wi 2 sri(they will improve with SPL)1 nz 1 bang 1 zim and 3 eng 2 pak if any clubs in associates

  • jattkadanda on May 28, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    haha this is a joke right...why its called champions league when the world champions of t20 England, Pakistan dont play and runners up..of IPL are in it..????

  • on May 28, 2011, 6:46 GMT

    come on bcci.....wats goin on , it must be clt20, don make tat too also as iplt20..... give evry country a chance to showcase their talents.... don be money minded....pls cricinfo, take all these comments somehow to bcci.... and show dem wat ppl hav for clt20

  • on May 28, 2011, 5:20 GMT

    SL AND NZ TEAMS ARE DRE JUST TO BE KIDDED WITH

  • on May 27, 2011, 20:36 GMT

    great..2 ipls in a year!..whats next?...champions cup?..like the European cup?...where the rest of the 6 ipl teams will participate?

  • on May 27, 2011, 18:26 GMT

    Champions League has to maintain a certain sanctity or winning the champions league will not earn the same reputation for a team as that of its football counterpart... The rules are being bent and twist to ensure the maximization of IPL teams just to score more ratings..

  • on May 27, 2011, 16:26 GMT

    BCCI rokin decision , if it proceeds

  • on May 27, 2011, 15:46 GMT

    What can IPL teams without oversears???

  • on May 27, 2011, 15:33 GMT

    What BCCI wants?? Why they r too much greedy?? There is no team from Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. And they are calling it CLT!!! Look at d UEFA Champions Legeuge,they take team from every country how ever they play. Their aim is to spead football. But BCCI wants to earn more money through this IPL teams

  • addiemanav on May 27, 2011, 14:54 GMT

    then couple of yrs later they will add another 6 teams into ipl thus making 16,and hav a qualification round for the top 8,then hav the regular ipl format that they had for 3 yrs!!wow!!thus in a span of 4 months they will generate 40billion$ revenue by having 502 t20 games,5.5 lac balls bolwed,12.4 lac runs scored by 34534 players,16 thousand 6s,2000 cheer-girls,500 commentators telling u this is the best thing on the planet,4500 injured players,4355 rebel players,15-20 sid mallya's girl friends,3244 umpires,12992 retired playrs,5345 retired plyrs coming back from the dead,players salaries more than 100 million$ and.............zero TEST CRICKET!!plus a few disgusted fans like me!!

  • on May 27, 2011, 11:31 GMT

    I cant believe this.... 4 IPL teams is too much... jus bcoz BCCI has money it doesnt mean tat they can do anything as they wish... I wd like to see one more team from the windies or srilanka or NZ ......

  • harshacc on May 27, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    I know Champion Leagus right now is not pulling in the TRPs.This is because we have no identification with the other teams or players outside of India.And all those folks saying that the IPL teams are better than the other teams.Take out your 4 Foreign overseas players and see how well they perform.CSK are an exception because the core of the team is built upon the TN team and they have retained the team over past 4 years.Let us see how well other IPL teams do this year against teams which have players who play in each other's company week in week out

  • on May 27, 2011, 11:03 GMT

    what's the point of having a Champions League if the only concern is to get a fourth IPL team in the tournament. Call it IPL 5.

  • arvindhsuperking on May 27, 2011, 10:17 GMT

    its absolutly a joke....is bcci trying to show its power...give chance for teams from other countries....its too much to select four teams from one country leaving out teams from some other important test playing countries....

  • Baundele on May 27, 2011, 10:16 GMT

    There is no reason to organize such an event except instant money at the cost of cricket and cricketers. Tournaments like the ICL and the IPL were supposed to be good for cricket; but now the ICL is dead and the IPL overdose is actually going to kill cricket.

  • on May 27, 2011, 9:43 GMT

    4 IPL teams! Whats the point, it may as well be IPL 2. This is just the high handedness of the BCCI to garner more and more money even after being the richest cricket board. CHampions Trophy ideally should have cut down to the 2 best team even from India and have top 2 teams from every nation. That wud be a real CLT20!

  • on May 27, 2011, 5:01 GMT

    dont think its right have one team from every country an the second places enter the playoff u cant have four ipl teams an cant have a west indies team or a new zaeland team thats not right

  • NickHere on May 26, 2011, 22:22 GMT

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! If they indeed conduct such a tournament, then it is SURELY going to drive people away. CLT20 should live up to it's name!! It's the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE. Not the losers, the 2nd losers and the 3rd losers league. So the 4th team in IPL would play in the CHAMPIONS league?? Since when are semi finalists in a tournament like say the World Cup called champions? Not just that, do they all know what happens when people are forced to eat too much of something? They just PUKE it out!! Don't make us puke this beautiful game of Cricket out 'gentlemen'. All this will result in the viewer-ship decreasing drastically. It's already happening and these people never learn!!

  • Vernacular_Press on May 26, 2011, 17:07 GMT

    @banglafan....It is an BCCI-CSA-CA event ....nothing to do with ICC.....Now in a business perspective...SL,BAN,NZ,PAK,WI,ENG does not invest any amount for the event.They dont pay to participate in it.They are invited to play.

  • on May 26, 2011, 16:11 GMT

    pakistani teams deserve to be in clt20, they r much beter than ipl teams...............

  • on May 26, 2011, 15:23 GMT

    Thats a great idea to make a qualifying tournament before CLT20.It will help to participation of best teams in CLT20

  • on May 26, 2011, 14:02 GMT

    it seems we are killing the real meaning of these tournament it started with beating ICL where the motto was to get new comers a chance to play with international players and build a good pipeline for the national team, this has given a new track to earn money and now more and more and more money... players will retire at 27 -30 age now and will play such tournaments.... We Indians can be happy that never ever in this world anyone will be able to break Sachin's Record of most runs.

  • sanath007 on May 26, 2011, 13:58 GMT

    4 ipl teams? then play another ipl, not a champions league...the concept of champions league is to get participation from every country. it's supposed to be a world tournament...

  • on May 26, 2011, 13:52 GMT

    4 teams from india in chamions leaque what is the meaning of Champions. include all test playing nations champions that's the actual champions league without any one that is not champions league. and why 4 tams from india

  • on May 26, 2011, 13:39 GMT

    Whe the not consider pakistan's domestic team at least pakistan domestic team is better then westindies & srilanka.

  • mithun_tamluk on May 26, 2011, 13:28 GMT

    It is a great idea. Compare to standard of IPL against the league of other countries... IPL is far better. At least 4 teams should play from India at CLT20

  • PakoP on May 26, 2011, 13:20 GMT

    Only team ending up in top 3 (Including winning the World Cup once) in all the T20 world cups is Pakistan, and no one seems to talk about them..... I know its called "Hypocrisy"

  • jsrajesh on May 26, 2011, 13:12 GMT

    Looks like BCCI are converting CLT20 into 2nd IPL season every year.. They had plans of havin two IPL"s anyway.. And by slowly increasing the number of IPL teams they can drive away the rest of the teams. SLC should protest such a move. It's insulting since they've aloowed their players to stay longer in IPL while their team mayb devoid of a representation in the cash rich CL...

  • on May 26, 2011, 12:32 GMT

    why just 4th team....let them have all the teams of IPL to be qualified for CLT20 and have one more version of IPL with a diff name........absolutely ridiculous and disgusting

  • Suresh.Balajee on May 26, 2011, 12:26 GMT

    The option for the fourth IPL team is a good initiative, but taking it directly to the CL qualifying round is a bit disappointing. Perhaps, the fourth IPL team could play another match in the IPL, with the loser of the Eliminator match.

  • on May 26, 2011, 12:20 GMT

    y the fourth team. right now ipl playing team are more than any other playing countries like aus rsa eng sl.according to me 3 team is not a good idea 2 team is fine

  • on May 26, 2011, 11:31 GMT

    y not pakistanisssssssss,,,,,,,,,, they will add beauty and blossom

  • peterss on May 26, 2011, 11:10 GMT

    2 teams from India is more than enough. And I totally agree with D.Sharma! It should be state teams instead of IPL. But anyways, 3 is domineering enough. 4 is absurd. I pray that this idea doesnt go through. Except for CSK all the other Indian teams seem to be dumped out quite early. CSK should be the only team qualifying! Other Indian teams are wasting their time! Australian and South African counterparts are much better than the other Indian teams.

  • banglafan on May 26, 2011, 11:06 GMT

    GP23, u are right. For some reason, BCCI thinks T20 and IPL means the same thing ! Lets first clarify whether the CLT20 is an ICC event or a BCCI event.

  • on May 26, 2011, 10:01 GMT

    lets make an 16 team event. 12 already. 2 from PAK, 1 more from SL & 1 from IND

  • Rahul_78 on May 26, 2011, 10:00 GMT

    We all heard a story of a farmer who had a hen who used to give him a golden egg each day, Mr.Sundar Raman and co pls go and read rest of the story if by chance you havent heard of it yet.

  • on May 26, 2011, 9:57 GMT

    Only 2 teams from IPL should be allowed to CL.

  • STARFISH14 on May 26, 2011, 9:47 GMT

    CHAMPIONS LEAGUE is an international league. Thus it doesn't any sense having 4 teams from a single league (i.e. IPL) teams participation in CHAMPIONS LEAGUE should be in the following manner THREE teams from India TWO teams each from AUSTRALIA, SOUTH AFRICA,ENGLAND, PAKISTAN ONE team each from NEW ZEALAND, WEST INDIES, SRILANKA, BANGLADESH, ZIMBABWE THAT'S the real LEAGUE OF CHAMPIONS

  • on May 26, 2011, 9:30 GMT

    Think about it... only IPL teams generate viewership at the CLT20. Might as well cancel the CLT20 event and have a second IPL every year in September. This will ensure viewership for a while and IPL saturation which will eventually kill the event turning attention to tests and ODIs, where it ought to be. Quick buck, longevity of the sport - Win-win. :)

  • sweetspot on May 26, 2011, 8:00 GMT

    @ mohamedamin - True, but you have to realize money controls most things in the world. Sport is not going to be spared. This sort of thing is the only way players can get paid huge sums of money too. It doesn't matter who beats whom. You will have to stop harping about Pak teams being so good, because they just got thrashed by India in the World Cup. Would viewership have been any less if Pak had made it to the final instead of India? Indeed it would have. But that's just more reason for India to keep investing in its cricket teams! The BCCI is not going to be wished away. Its power will continue well into the future, if ONLY because of the enormous Indian population and the buying power of its middle class.

  • on May 26, 2011, 7:39 GMT

    Its a joke that because of this so called champions league the premier test series between Australia - South Africa will be limited to only 2 TEST MATCHES :(

  • on May 26, 2011, 7:29 GMT

    thats a great idea!!!!!!! KKR will get another chance

  • Anshu_pran on May 26, 2011, 7:23 GMT

    2 IPL team is sufficient and all test playing nations should be given a chance to play their domestic teams in the tournament,not selected nations

  • on May 26, 2011, 6:30 GMT

    why are they planning another league to qualify in CLT20?? IPL is more than enough for this purpose.

  • on May 26, 2011, 6:25 GMT

    this will be fun. because teams from new zealand , guyana and sri lanka haven't performed well in clt20 so , if its the champions league then only the best shud come , not the teams who r champs but cant perform at the big stage another good ting is that a team like KKR , would get another chance to qualify. but i see 2 Aus , 2 SA , 2 Eng , 4 from CLT20 Qualifier which includes 4 teams ipl , 1 from wi-sl-nz and an all star team

  • on May 26, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    Cricket overkill! The IPL is tiring enough, and now they want a qualifying tournament to a tournament (the Champions League) that nobody watches.

  • on May 26, 2011, 5:32 GMT

    it's a great idea for CL league qualifying round for the fourth IPL team(KKR). at least they should get a chance to qualify for the champions league.after the last night defeat i thought it's all but over for us(KKR supporter).after seeing this article we've got a ray of hope to cheer for KKR in the CL league at EDEN GARDENS.wow.......

  • on May 26, 2011, 5:19 GMT

    Its completly bad idea. B'coz its champ. Leag not a other team required here.

  • PremZtalks on May 26, 2011, 4:27 GMT

    4 IPL teams in 10 - can rename the tournament as IPL2 instead of champions league. Champions should mean champions. If 4 team qualifies for a league. there is no point in naming it champions league. Only 2 teams should be allowed from IPL. 3rd team was acceptable to make the number of teams for the league.

  • Aspraso on May 26, 2011, 4:24 GMT

    Why are we having all these arguments about more cricket and all that? If there is no money to be earned from a qualifier, it will die a natural death. Market / business economics will deliver it to the rightful place.

  • aussies_fast-track_bullies on May 26, 2011, 4:22 GMT

    Great, how about just have all the ten IPL teams play the champions league and then one of 'em can be called the 'Champions'... Why ignore the rest of the world??

  • nskaile on May 26, 2011, 4:21 GMT

    uhhhhh.... how about all 10 teams from India (IPL TEAMS )??????? 10 is always better then 4.

  • on May 26, 2011, 4:08 GMT

    Champions league is not a mini ipl. Don't dominate the clt20 with ipl money power. It will spoil the spirit of the cricket.. 2 ind 2 aus 2 sa 1eng 1nz 1sl 1wi is enough if u want 2 between ire,zim,ban..

  • on May 26, 2011, 4:01 GMT

    A 4th IPL team would ensure that the tournament flops big time, even amongst Indian ratings. I know this is all about money but lets at least pretend to make it a global contest. The Champions League by definition should be 'Champions' from their respective national T20 leagues. Did we run out of countries again ? Lets have a qualifier to determine if they will listen to any of our concerns.

  • on May 26, 2011, 3:50 GMT

    what the hell is this.champions league teams include top 2 teams and including 4th ipl team will be ipl.and why cl in india and not in australia or england.redicluious.

  • Vatto on May 26, 2011, 3:44 GMT

    @svinodmenon: CSK were able to do well in the Champs league only because their domestic strength is more. The likes of Vijay, Badrinath, Ashwin, Aniruddha (local) and jakati (national) were the core of the team whilst MSD, Morkel, Hussey and Raina were the backbone of it. So once u have a good domestic team, that eases ur problem as they play day in and day out. Compare it with mumbai (Suman, Rayudu - Hyd, Sachin, Rohit - Mumb, Sathish - Chennai) where the gelling is not quite like it in CSK.

  • D.Sharma on May 26, 2011, 3:33 GMT

    The Champions League is a great idea, but it should only have the Indian state teams, not IPL teams. The top two sides from the top eight countries should be playing.

  • on May 26, 2011, 3:30 GMT

    Quite a load of rubbish. If the IPL team can't make the top 3, why should it qualify at the expense of other countries? Have they already forgotten it was the first T&T team that fought their way against odds and brought Pollard to the limelight? Whos to say a SL or NZ team won't do the same? All this will encourage players to leave their country and play for club. ?If you want to make $ at the expense of fair play so badly, just have an IPL Knockout Trophy along with it's league.

  • chunnie on May 26, 2011, 3:13 GMT

    I totally agree with Zeeshan Arshad and svinodmenon. The idea of this is rubbish and only highlights the arrogance shown by the BCCI in their quest to control international cricket. If this is allowed to take place, I hope they rename it IPL 2, because it definitely would not be a proper Champions League, and I would not want to watch it.

  • on May 26, 2011, 2:53 GMT

    Why can't they have a co-efficient system. Based on ICC T20 rankings of nations, for example top 3 nations automatically send 2 teams to CL. The nations ranked 4 -6, send 1 team automatically. That leaves us with 3 more spots which should be contested in a playoff where the 3rd placed teams from the top 3 ranked nations play the teams who are placed 2nd in the rank 4-6.

  • on May 26, 2011, 1:20 GMT

    Why they don't play ipl twice a year? It would be a better idea than putting many IPL teams in to CLT20. with the money involve in IPL even the no10 team of Ipl will qualify if they play CLT qualifiers. And why should WI team play qualifiers? Even though SL & Nz teams haven't done well in previous CLT's. TT(WI team in 2009) was unbeaten untill they lost the final to NSW.

  • xylo on May 25, 2011, 23:13 GMT

    meh... does anybody watch the champions league?

  • on May 25, 2011, 19:11 GMT

    A qualifying tournament is a great idea !! Teams from WI, SL, Pakistan, NZ, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Ireland should play 1 knock-out game with IPL teams 4-10 with the top 3 teams on NRR going through for CLT20. All the matches should be staged back-to-back at 2 venues on a Saturday & Sunday.

  • on May 25, 2011, 18:57 GMT

    dont replace cricket with money!

  • GP23 on May 25, 2011, 18:47 GMT

    Why does BCCI need to go through all this pretentious effort? JUST PLAY ANOTHER IPL!!! why should it be even called CLT20.. !! ideally it should be 2 teams from Ind, 2 frm Aus, 2 from SA, 1 WI, 1 ENG,,, 1 NZ and 1 SL, 1 from Zim T20, 1 Bnagladesh, now thats champions league,, And there surely will be TRP's.. we want to see international teams play ! bored of Indian monopoly!

  • svinodmenon on May 25, 2011, 18:47 GMT

    That is ridiculous, 4th Ipl team team that make no sense. To be frank what these Ipl teams done in the CLT20 except the CSK every other teams failed to qualify even for Semis. I recommend two teams from India, & Aus, with 1 each from SL, NZ, WI, Pak, SA & Eng. It make 10 in total, so team can be grouped according to the rankings in the previous CL T20. this makes sense and will see good cricket. I really hate the idea of 4 IPL teams.

  • on May 25, 2011, 18:43 GMT

    why not have another qualifier to determine who qualifies for CLT20 qualifier. And we can have one more qualifier to determine teams that take part in IPL. why not have ipl all 365 days a year because anyhow no one is watching ipl these days so increase number of matches to increase revenue...Its very sad BCCI is choosing quantity over quality

  • on May 25, 2011, 18:26 GMT

    Why The Centre Stgae of these tournament is ipl BAsed, and also its not a direct qualify, they have to win matches to qualify, if other teams are really good, they have to beat kkr first!

  • on May 25, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    this is absolutely ridiculous ..why don't they have all IPL teams and a rest of the world team

  • honjumark on May 25, 2011, 18:14 GMT

    Now that Mumbai is in, I suspect we wont hear anymore about this 'idea'.

  • on May 25, 2011, 18:09 GMT

    Shouldn't Champions league be having top best two teams from all the top ten countries and perhaps adding one or two associates? uh i forgot that whatever BCCI says is the last word.....perhaps ICC should be scrapped and everything should be controlled by BCCI ....at least it would then sound "official" Its so sad that deserving nations are not a part of IPL and now CPL but a fourth ranked IPL team is placed above all interests.

  • on May 25, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    ridiculous to include 4th IPL team.. why not have all 10 IPl teams in the CLT20???? absurd and stupid by the BCCI.. .we wanna see all test playing nations represented..... may be u can try n include Ireland in it... to give them an opportunity to improve their cricket ... wud b nice 4 IPL teams a complete NO NO

  • howizzat on May 25, 2011, 17:31 GMT

    Its an overdose. ITS TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH.

  • on May 25, 2011, 16:59 GMT

    Why should countries with one spot be in the qualifier? Use the lower rated team from countries with multiple spots. Remember West indies has one spot and Trinidad made it to the finals in the 1st CL. Guyana was disappointing last yr. Also remember some teams comprise of people from one small island not from around the world. Without foreign players the IPL teams will be ordinary!!!

  • Leggie on May 25, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    Bizzare! Why not say 6 teams will qualify and schedule one more round robin league before the CLT20. This can be an endless journey.

  • mohamedamin on May 25, 2011, 15:44 GMT

    So this is another recommendation by Mumbai Indians.....since they seem to not able to beat KKR its a chance for them to still qualify...and they will go ahead with it if KKR beat Mumbai Indians...but if Mumbai win they will throw it out the window......Remember it was Mumbai that proposed the retention of any 4 players of each franchise!!!!!!the BCCI accepted that bec of the so called great Tendulkar......and Mumbai afraid they hav to pay double the price for player like Pollard who didnt really did anyting in IPL4....but wake up call for Pollard-he could hav been worth maximum 2.5 million.....

  • fergfan on May 25, 2011, 15:02 GMT

    its a sensible decision to include a qualification prior to cl, since we went through some miss matches last year. but seriously one more ipl team ?!! switch 'em with a team from pakistan or atleast from association structure or one more team from county. i know most of the Indians, like me couldnt digest one more team from ipl,since cl be more suitable to be dubbed as ipl5. hope the cl governing body will take a sensible move by adding a pak team to the scenario, still they can catch up with the TRP considering the fanatics from that part of the world.

  • princeofnyc on May 25, 2011, 14:35 GMT

    I would rather see the BCCI "shoe-horn" an extra Test match in the Test series than worry about giving another IPL team a chance to qualify to Champions League. If they keep on taxing the players and the audience with overload of T20 matches, then they should change their name from Board of Cricket Control to Board of Cricket Crucifixion!

  • KTiwari on May 25, 2011, 14:27 GMT

    Kill CTL20 and increase IPL duration. IPL already has best players from other countries playing in the league and other domestic competitions does not have that kind of talent pool.

  • on May 25, 2011, 14:00 GMT

    Hey why not give another 2 IPL teams a chance to play in CL? if this all is about rating. If it is CL then only domestic champions from ALL test playing nation must have representation in it or nothing. IPL already has 3 teams in CL, what elsey they want? And some complaining about poor performances of domestic teams of NZ or SL should not forget to what happened to DD (i guess) in first CL.

  • anurag4u10 on May 25, 2011, 13:52 GMT

    max. 2 representatns shud b 4m india in CL20 if the trnamnt actually want r mntain its essence. The sponsers and broadcasters have a very large say in decidin these things nd from mrkting prspective india appears vry lucrative 2 them. more indian teams will ensure a handsome target audience 2 dem which is d prime reason 4 such a move

  • jusdookhi on May 25, 2011, 13:46 GMT

    The BCCI will only succeed in concentrating cricketing interest in India alone. Indians love cricket (and that's an understatement, I know), but people around the world love it too, and this format will only serve to reduce interest in the competition in other parts of the world as well as water down the real meaning of the Champions League until it becomes a complete misnomer altogether. Australia were the unliked champion cricket country for a while and India is fast becoming the next, not because of their cricketers but because of their self-preening administrators.

  • AdnanKayani on May 25, 2011, 13:43 GMT

    if four teams from only one league then how can it be a champions league, for me even three is unjustified two is a reasonable number,. it looks like they want creat WC2011 senirio that every time an IPL team wins CL, like player retaination rule, by the way why not any of pak team is allowed even in qualifing round,. the strange thing is in every CL team from winer country of t20 WC is absent, Go Ahead BCCI that the way to keep indian tv audiance glue to tv to milk the cow

  • delastbastion on May 25, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    why do yu even need other teams, why dont you just invite selected players from the other "qualified" domestic champions teams, to spruce up the 4 IPL teams, because surely this proposed move is simply an extension the current IPL finals....the same four IPL teams will line up agaist each other and do ppl really want to see an event involving ipl franchise teams who have already played each other so many times day in day out for the year so far?... come on.....stop milking the cricket cow...she will soon go dry....ICC has got to put its foot down and take charge of the game of cricket in the interest of all concerned

  • on May 25, 2011, 13:35 GMT

    I would prefer CLT to play in australia.. mainly c boz almost every team will get support from fans..in australia will have good crowd for india,aus.sl,eng,sa, matches, in india only Indian teams get fans support. other matches play without crowd. thats make champion leage boring.

  • on May 25, 2011, 13:20 GMT

    4 IPL teams? Why not just schedule another IPL tournament in september then? BCCI and IPL are jokes trying to make as much money as possible. This tournament needs to have only TWO IPL teams and then the rest should come from the rest of the world.

  • Vernacular_Press on May 25, 2011, 13:17 GMT

    I think its to save mumbai.@chrisgus-good idea, but i think its too early to add teams from minnows.Even SL champions Wayamba has no scope in CL.3 english teams and 3 aussie teams would do,with the expanded big bash.

  • ram5160 on May 25, 2011, 13:15 GMT

    The no of teams from India should be reduced to 2. The host country should be allowed 3 teams to create more interest and they should be allowed 1st choice over their players.

  • on May 25, 2011, 13:13 GMT

    First of all the T-20 teams DO NOT represent nations. Get this simple fact straight in your head people. Thus three IPL teams DO NOT mean three Indian teams. It means three clubs/franchises based in India. Secondly, the CLT was an initiative by the IPL governing body NOT the ICC so stop cribbing that BCCI runs the ICC. CLT's very existence is courtesy Lalit Modi. Lastly, BCCI has done more for the development of the game than any other board. Why are the Aussies and the New Zealanders not too keen on having too many minnows in the 2015 WC? Because they fear that more boring matches will lead to loss of revenues as there will be no television audience for such games nor the stadiums will be full. The development of the game is their last priority. So before commenting, check the track records of your own boards and how they are contributing towards the globalisation of the game.

  • AllwinJ on May 25, 2011, 13:12 GMT

    I think they should change the name of the league from Champions league to something else. It wont be just the Champions anymore in the league. Quite a distasteful move by the BCCI.

  • meastrostroke on May 25, 2011, 12:56 GMT

    4th team concept is not good for the champions league.. Who in the world has interest to watch the matches played between the same team... And pak club team shud be included so that we can watch the players who are performing for pakistan . eventually some of the pakistan cricketers cud be picked into IPL if they allow

  • on May 25, 2011, 12:52 GMT

    I guess four teams from ten sounds okay, but to make it more global, the CL must have teams from other more countries. According to me there should be four from IPL, two each from RSA, England, Australia, and one each from Pakistan, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and New Zealand. Four pools of four teams each, top two play knockouts. That would mean, a total of 24 (6x4 League Stage), plus 4 (QFs), plus 2 (SFs), plus the final; hence, 31 games.

  • AjaySridharan on May 25, 2011, 12:32 GMT

    talk about cutting the goose that lays the golden egg. BCCI is pushing the limits of the Indian audience's interest. Just call it IPL-2 and be done with it. Call the other teams the "Joker club"...they are there to make the numbers anyway.

    I wonder if BCCI's high handedness is just a precursor to what we will see when India chest thumps its way into global consciousness when it truly becomes an economic superpower!

  • Crictotter on May 25, 2011, 12:30 GMT

    All cricket is having is a BCCI. Till the point only BCCI is going to rule the game, cricket is going to thrive only in the sub-continent and that too not for long. Though it doesnt look like it but in fact its like killing the golden goose - too short term a vision to focus on television rights and profits. I hope some miracle happens and BCCI all of a sudden starts infusing some funds into grooming local talent (players, coaches and support staff) and ground conditions and stop interfering into international affairs. Thats the only way cricket will grow and 25 years later we can expect to have a world cup which we'll look forward to.

  • on May 25, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    It makes sense, because last time couple of teams peformed too badly. They dint had class. So if any team deservers it, let it be a competion amoung these non-performing team and the 4th team from IPL. Best will go through which will make the competition much delightful

  • on May 25, 2011, 12:19 GMT

    Its really stupid. Bad idea! Champions League... supposed to be champions of various leagues. If T20 as a sport is to gain world wide popularity, it should include leagues from more countries. This is short sightedness.

  • Denzel_Smith on May 25, 2011, 12:19 GMT

    There is no point in watching cricket any more. Eveything is being managed by the BCCI for TRPs. Any Pak team would give all the ipl teams a run for their money....but an ipl team has to win the clt20.... again for the TRPs.

  • m_sha on May 25, 2011, 12:17 GMT

    IPL 2011 was the most boring. reasons are: two many matches, reduced level of competition,loss of innovation & competition. suggestions: allocate only 01 strategic time out between 10-14 overs, allow fast/medium bowlers to bowl to short deliveries within a reachble hight to hit, batsmen should be dismissed even in noballs. these initiatives will reduce unnecessarily high scoring games and increase level of impact on the match.

  • TheUltimateTruth on May 25, 2011, 12:12 GMT

    BCCI is over playing its hand. Yes, I realize 90% of the money is in India, but even the Indians don't like 4 IPL teams in a tournament that's named "Champions League." A 4th IPL team is big risk anyway because IPL quality has been clearly diluted by the addition of 2 new teams (big mistake). The idea being considered will only breed resentment against the BCCI, IPL, and CLT. If they are worried about the quality of cricket, allow wide representation from all the countries but tinker with the format so that the weaker teams get kicked out early, and the stronger teams have more games. They could also allow 5 international players per team just for the CLT games. Plus, why would SL and WI have to compete in the qualifier stage? They are pretty good teams especially the SL teams with international players?

  • on May 25, 2011, 12:03 GMT

    Make it two teams from India...Even three IPL teams gives undue advantage to India and adding fourth team means, another version of IPL, the idea itself sucks...It will spoil the Champions League concept as well...

  • bala-chala on May 25, 2011, 11:56 GMT

    This is just stupid. The broadcasting companies should concentrate on improving the quality of broadcasts. Matters concerning cricket are to be left to the cricket administrators. Already the playoffs look a little bit monotonous with the same teams playing each other repeatedly. If these 4 play in the CLT20 again one would only see decrease in TRP than increase in it.

  • chrisgus on May 25, 2011, 11:56 GMT

    Should be 16 teams:

    3 IPL 2 SA 2 Aus 2 Eng 1 WI 1 Pak 1 NZ 1 Ban 1 Zim 1 SL The Champion From The Previous Year (another from that teams country if the champion qualifies)

    Then have 4 groups of 4 with the top 2 qualifying into a knock out round.

  • 30-30-150 on May 25, 2011, 11:51 GMT

    what the.....? oh c'mon.. 3 IPL teams itself is looking too much at the moment and they are thinking of adding 1 more..? this sounds ridiculous.. it would be better to bring in a couple of teams from pakistan.

    3 IPL teams, 2 aus teams, 2 sa teams, 2 eng teams, 2 pak teams, 1 from wi, sl and nz should be the way to go..

  • raju619 on May 25, 2011, 11:50 GMT

    They are making Cricket like Football friend..Like EPL and La liga they creted IPL and BigBash like UEFA champions leauge they creted Champions league T20 now they are making qualifiers round like Football.

  • xenon555 on May 25, 2011, 11:37 GMT

    Stick with 3. IPL and CLT are great but they will ruin them with complications.

  • on May 25, 2011, 11:32 GMT

    Duh !! Why not have two IPLs a year ??

  • randika_ayya on May 25, 2011, 11:31 GMT

    If the Champions League of T20 is a property of IPL why would you call it such. rest of the world should just fold up, just like they switch off the TV set on IPL carnival. Outrageously snobbish from the BCCI.

  • on May 25, 2011, 11:31 GMT

    Whats the point of calling it "CHAMPIONS" League if a team ending up 4th is allowed to play in it!!!

    Then the next stage to this would be to permit the STAR PLAYERS to represent multiple teams in this "Champions" League. As its all about the TRPs in the long run....

  • on May 25, 2011, 11:30 GMT

    Bad decision. Why not have 10 teams of IPL playing and rest all teams playing the qualifier to make in for final 2 spots. This would the CLT20 is virtually like IPL, a great deal for ESPN. 3 teams from India is a good number. It should be 3 teams from Ind, 2 from Aus, 2 From SA, 1 from Eng, 1 from WI, 1 from SL, 1 from Pak & 1 from NZ

  • on May 25, 2011, 11:25 GMT

    champions league is just a feeder tournament for ipl....after cl 2009....ipl got pollard,after cl 2010 ..ipl got davy jacobs and many more....

  • on May 25, 2011, 11:11 GMT

    Can anybody answer me why Pakistan domestic team are not considered for Champions league ?

  • skumar8494 on May 25, 2011, 11:07 GMT

    Good Joke...Make all 10 IPL teams to play CLT20.... no worth to watch

  • HKRULZ on May 25, 2011, 11:04 GMT

    Sweet KKR still have another chance of trying to get there if they don't win tonigh

  • rmpraveen on May 25, 2011, 10:59 GMT

    In such case, if four teams makes it to Champions League, it will be a mini version of IPL, and no wonder one in this 4 team has a better chance to lift the trophy. This seems to be ridiculous as for name sake, inviting teams all round the world to play in, but ultimately a shorter version of IPL.Calling it a champions league where the fourth IPL team if at all enters, is no where near Champion is an irony.

  • Neoza on May 25, 2011, 10:55 GMT

    I would suggest a better alternative why dont they conduct another IPL under the name of CLT20, so that atleast it wouldnt trouble even the rest of the teams from Aus , SA and England .I simply dont understand where is BCCI taking cricket to .

    In my opinion there has to be representation from NZ , WI and SL no matter what . They could have a qualification in place for teams from Bangladesh , Kenya , Zim , Ireland. This would help in developing club cricket in the weaker nations too and give them exposure .

  • on May 25, 2011, 10:46 GMT

    Good initiative.. But in the hindsight, given that CLT20 will be held in different countries.. if at some point in time the tournament is held in SL, WI or NZ, and in the qualifying stage one of these country's team gets knocked out, wont that hamper the local viewing??

    Why not give an incentive for the home team to directly qualify and a qualifying stage for the other teams. By doing so, you can add one more team from any of the countries or even have an associate nation to participate, or even have a window for Pakistan if they come in at a later stage, once all their internal politics are sorted out.. (There is talent in Pakistan, no denying that, right?)

  • on May 25, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    3 teams are good enough.but lets see how this all works out

  • on May 25, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    This is getting more complex..it should be keep nice and tidy!So many games will affect others schedules.if u want 4 teams get top 4 teams why need another mini tournament???

  • mautan on May 25, 2011, 10:31 GMT

    Hmm...why not have 8 teams from IPL and maybe one team selected from all the other winners? That will ensure CL will be won by an IPL team....8 IPL teams plus one from somewhere in the world is a nice balance!

  • on May 25, 2011, 10:24 GMT

    Looks nice. But it will lead to over cricket

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  • on May 25, 2011, 10:24 GMT

    Looks nice. But it will lead to over cricket

  • mautan on May 25, 2011, 10:31 GMT

    Hmm...why not have 8 teams from IPL and maybe one team selected from all the other winners? That will ensure CL will be won by an IPL team....8 IPL teams plus one from somewhere in the world is a nice balance!

  • on May 25, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    This is getting more complex..it should be keep nice and tidy!So many games will affect others schedules.if u want 4 teams get top 4 teams why need another mini tournament???

  • on May 25, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    3 teams are good enough.but lets see how this all works out

  • on May 25, 2011, 10:46 GMT

    Good initiative.. But in the hindsight, given that CLT20 will be held in different countries.. if at some point in time the tournament is held in SL, WI or NZ, and in the qualifying stage one of these country's team gets knocked out, wont that hamper the local viewing??

    Why not give an incentive for the home team to directly qualify and a qualifying stage for the other teams. By doing so, you can add one more team from any of the countries or even have an associate nation to participate, or even have a window for Pakistan if they come in at a later stage, once all their internal politics are sorted out.. (There is talent in Pakistan, no denying that, right?)

  • Neoza on May 25, 2011, 10:55 GMT

    I would suggest a better alternative why dont they conduct another IPL under the name of CLT20, so that atleast it wouldnt trouble even the rest of the teams from Aus , SA and England .I simply dont understand where is BCCI taking cricket to .

    In my opinion there has to be representation from NZ , WI and SL no matter what . They could have a qualification in place for teams from Bangladesh , Kenya , Zim , Ireland. This would help in developing club cricket in the weaker nations too and give them exposure .

  • rmpraveen on May 25, 2011, 10:59 GMT

    In such case, if four teams makes it to Champions League, it will be a mini version of IPL, and no wonder one in this 4 team has a better chance to lift the trophy. This seems to be ridiculous as for name sake, inviting teams all round the world to play in, but ultimately a shorter version of IPL.Calling it a champions league where the fourth IPL team if at all enters, is no where near Champion is an irony.

  • HKRULZ on May 25, 2011, 11:04 GMT

    Sweet KKR still have another chance of trying to get there if they don't win tonigh

  • skumar8494 on May 25, 2011, 11:07 GMT

    Good Joke...Make all 10 IPL teams to play CLT20.... no worth to watch

  • on May 25, 2011, 11:11 GMT

    Can anybody answer me why Pakistan domestic team are not considered for Champions league ?