Ireland news April 11, 2011

Ireland could play 15 ODIs a year against Full Members

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Ireland, who have been controversially excluded from the next World Cup, could still play up to 15 one-day internationals against Full Members each year between now and 2015. Cricket Ireland chairman David Williams, who visited India last week and met with BCCI chairman Shashank Manohar, confirmed that he had received support from several of the ICC's Full Members willing to accommodate Ireland.

"One of our ambitions is to increase our ODI exposure against full members to between 10 to 15 per annum, and we received some support from Full Members to accommodate us," Williams said. "There is, without question, among all the Full Members chairmen I spoke to, considered to be very clear water between us and the rest of the Associates."

Both South Africa and Bangladesh reportedly lent support to Ireland's push for more games against Full Members, but chances of a bilateral series against world champions India remain slim, and Zimbabwe have withdrawn an invitation for a repeat of Ireland's trip to the country in September last year. Zimbabwe cited the lack of a gap in their programme due to playing commitments as the reason for the cancellation, although the ICC's Future Tours Programme does show that they have no international cricket scheduled between the end of October and the beginning of December.

"We had hoped to play a four-day game - an unofficial Test match - against Zimbabwe and three ODIs. That would have been a very nice tour. But that tour will not take place," Williams confirmed.

However, Ozias Bvute, ZC's managing director, insisted that Zimbabwe's priority in that period was their domestic programme, rather than furthering their international commitments.

"We have taken a deliberate decision to try and ensure that all our players turn out for the respective franchises, we have thus tried to separate our international calendar with our domestic fixturing on that basis," Bvute told ESPNcricinfo. "Our strategy moving forward is to grow our domestic cricket to a point where in itself it becomes financially viable and sustainable. To attract the crowds and sponsors we need all our players in attendance."

Williams, who was re-elected as chairman for a fourth year at Cricket Ireland's annual meeting, had travelled to India with the intention of securing a qualifying tournament for the next World Cup, ensuring a promotion and relegation system in ODI leagues and canvassing for support for more ODIs for Ireland. "I didn't get the first, but the second was delivered and I am hopeful that the last will happen," he said.

"Mr Manohar was charming, as expected, but he said he felt the Full Members did not have time to adjust to a qualifying tournament for the 2015 World Cup and it would disrupt the Future Tours Programme. But I don't think they are arguments which could not be overcome.

"There will be qualifying for the 2019 tournament but that is six years away, but the promotion and relegation between ODI leagues is a very significant step for us as well. In the meantime, though, you are handing an opportunity for our best players to go to England because they have no alternative [if they want to play in the next World Cup].

"We have all gone into print expressing our disgust but now we must move on and, in association with our Associate friends, we will leave no stone unturned in seeing what our options are in having this iniquitous decision overturned."

Cricket Ireland chief executive Warren Deutrom believes any action to get the decision overturned will have to be inclusive of all the Associate nations and multi-lateral if it is to be successful. "We need to work with the other 94 Associate countries," Deutrom said at Cricket Ireland's annual meeting.

"They feel disenfranchised and it is not just the High Performance countries that have been in touch. Sports lawyers have also been in contact with me but that will be the last resort. All other remedies must be exhausted first and the first opportunity to challenge the decision is at the annual conference in June."

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  • TheBigFatFlapjack on April 13, 2011, 21:00 GMT

    Its clearly obvious why the Zimbabweans dont wanna invite the Irish for a few games. Just imagine the fracas if Zimbabwe get beaten by Ireland (and they very likely will), a "full member" losing to an Associate! It'll be a kick in the teeth for the ICC (BCCI) for leaving the Irish out of the next world cup. I'd be really surprised if the Irish get to play a series with any of the Test-playing nations before the 2015 world cup.

  • Notredam on April 13, 2011, 7:26 GMT

    Email at this..

    Enquiries@icc-cricket.com

    Vent out ur anger and feelings..

  • Notredam on April 13, 2011, 7:20 GMT

    Full Indians support..come on irish

  • Notredam on April 13, 2011, 7:18 GMT

    Best fielding unit...Most disciplined bowling unit... Good hiiters batters..

    End result..........Abosulte tyrannical behaviour by god'send_men of ICC..

    Serius joke...they are on par with west indies...better than Zim and bangla...

  • Notredam on April 13, 2011, 7:16 GMT

    Absolute disgrace to exclude Ireland from world cup. Hope it spells doom for the game of already dying sport. Look up and open up your eyes wise guys the game is popular only in Indian subcontinent. Rest everywhere it has bled to slow death. Examples West Indies, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Scotland, Canada, USA. Remember that oldest game was played between USA and Canada in 18 th century. Even AC Milan the famous football club is having cricket also in its name. The first Olympic had France and Great Britain playing. But no one cares. As long as you can fill your own pocket why it's development that should concern you.

  • on April 13, 2011, 3:56 GMT

    Unfortunately it looks like Irelands last hope is an appeal in July, if that fails, legal action may be the only option. I hope to see more of Ireland in the future, with a posible eye to full member status and eventually test status when they feel they are ready to make that step.

  • irish1994 on April 12, 2011, 17:02 GMT

    @Jonah58, hope what ure saying is true mate...it wld b a dream come true 4 me as I am an irish national living in Pakistan...Wld absolutely love 2 c our national team touring Pakistan and playing some good, quality cricket...

  • on April 12, 2011, 16:56 GMT

    Irelandfan100 I agree inirely with u though.

  • irish1994 on April 12, 2011, 16:42 GMT

    Ireland should have a series with the Windies or Bangladesh in which they can easily prove they deserve a place in the next world cup. Maybe even one against the English would not be too bad :-)

  • Nduru on April 12, 2011, 15:35 GMT

    @IrelandFan100, I agree with you and all the Ireland fans that you have a very fine team, and have been treated very badly by the ICC. I also do believe that your team has improved vastly and are now definately on a par with Bangladesh and Zim, even though you get less funding. The ICC operates in a very stupid way, and I think that teams like us should play each other regularly. My point is really that although Zim has more funding, we have some really bad socio-political barriers which have impacted our cricket and not allowed players of top class to stay in the country. I know you guys have also lost Morgan, but at least you still have some really experienced first class and county players, which we don't have at this point. And yet, I still think Zim can hold its head up high. Besides, it is also unfair for you to attract players into your team because you have such beautiful women in Ireland that players are lining up to come to your country ;)

  • TheBigFatFlapjack on April 13, 2011, 21:00 GMT

    Its clearly obvious why the Zimbabweans dont wanna invite the Irish for a few games. Just imagine the fracas if Zimbabwe get beaten by Ireland (and they very likely will), a "full member" losing to an Associate! It'll be a kick in the teeth for the ICC (BCCI) for leaving the Irish out of the next world cup. I'd be really surprised if the Irish get to play a series with any of the Test-playing nations before the 2015 world cup.

  • Notredam on April 13, 2011, 7:26 GMT

    Email at this..

    Enquiries@icc-cricket.com

    Vent out ur anger and feelings..

  • Notredam on April 13, 2011, 7:20 GMT

    Full Indians support..come on irish

  • Notredam on April 13, 2011, 7:18 GMT

    Best fielding unit...Most disciplined bowling unit... Good hiiters batters..

    End result..........Abosulte tyrannical behaviour by god'send_men of ICC..

    Serius joke...they are on par with west indies...better than Zim and bangla...

  • Notredam on April 13, 2011, 7:16 GMT

    Absolute disgrace to exclude Ireland from world cup. Hope it spells doom for the game of already dying sport. Look up and open up your eyes wise guys the game is popular only in Indian subcontinent. Rest everywhere it has bled to slow death. Examples West Indies, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Scotland, Canada, USA. Remember that oldest game was played between USA and Canada in 18 th century. Even AC Milan the famous football club is having cricket also in its name. The first Olympic had France and Great Britain playing. But no one cares. As long as you can fill your own pocket why it's development that should concern you.

  • on April 13, 2011, 3:56 GMT

    Unfortunately it looks like Irelands last hope is an appeal in July, if that fails, legal action may be the only option. I hope to see more of Ireland in the future, with a posible eye to full member status and eventually test status when they feel they are ready to make that step.

  • irish1994 on April 12, 2011, 17:02 GMT

    @Jonah58, hope what ure saying is true mate...it wld b a dream come true 4 me as I am an irish national living in Pakistan...Wld absolutely love 2 c our national team touring Pakistan and playing some good, quality cricket...

  • on April 12, 2011, 16:56 GMT

    Irelandfan100 I agree inirely with u though.

  • irish1994 on April 12, 2011, 16:42 GMT

    Ireland should have a series with the Windies or Bangladesh in which they can easily prove they deserve a place in the next world cup. Maybe even one against the English would not be too bad :-)

  • Nduru on April 12, 2011, 15:35 GMT

    @IrelandFan100, I agree with you and all the Ireland fans that you have a very fine team, and have been treated very badly by the ICC. I also do believe that your team has improved vastly and are now definately on a par with Bangladesh and Zim, even though you get less funding. The ICC operates in a very stupid way, and I think that teams like us should play each other regularly. My point is really that although Zim has more funding, we have some really bad socio-political barriers which have impacted our cricket and not allowed players of top class to stay in the country. I know you guys have also lost Morgan, but at least you still have some really experienced first class and county players, which we don't have at this point. And yet, I still think Zim can hold its head up high. Besides, it is also unfair for you to attract players into your team because you have such beautiful women in Ireland that players are lining up to come to your country ;)

  • crackers134 on April 12, 2011, 15:18 GMT

    Zimbabwe very weak in not playing Ireland with the time they have available. Ireland should be 10th team in 2015 world cup, not Zimbabwe.

  • Super_Cricketer on April 12, 2011, 15:00 GMT

    Hello Ireland, Believe me...Ireland will play the next Cricket WorldCup2015.....I cant imagine a Cricket World Cup with out Ireland now....2015 is far away...ICC will reverse their decision...at least 12 teams will play the next worldcup....99% Indian Cricket fans are with you.....I lost my sleep after hearing the stupid decision of ICC...I can imagine how Ireland fans are feeling now....I am waiting for that beautiful day when Ireland play in CWC2015......That will happen...All the best Ireland......A die-hard cricket fan from India....

  • Jonah58 on April 12, 2011, 13:31 GMT

    @Ayaz Noor M and the rest of the Pakistan fans supporting us, all Ireland fans appreciate your team coming to give us 2 good quality ODI's this year at the end of a very long and tireing tour for your players.

    There are more than a few of us who feel that your commitment to us should be reciprocated by us touring to Pakistan to give your fans the same chance to watch cricket at home as we get.

  • Jonah58 on April 12, 2011, 13:27 GMT

    @Nduru yeah a Zim team without Ray Price beat and Ireland team without Boyd Rankin and Alex Cusack 2-1 in a home series. Care to come to Ireland and give us home advantage?

    If Zim are not scared of losing to associates why was the invitation withdrawn? Zim have a clear calendar in Sep and Oct

  • IrelandFan100 on April 12, 2011, 12:53 GMT

    Nduru--- I beg to differ with you.

    The Irish side at the World cup had 4 players not born in Ireland and they have all been in Ireland for alot more than the 4 year qualification period and none of them came here initally with the goal of playing Cricket for Ireland. 3 came here with Irish Wifes (Trent Johnson and Cusack and Jones). Zimbabwe still gets 10 million dollars or so a year compared to the very small pool of money that Cricket Ireland gets. Cricket Ireland was promised last year by Zimbabwe to host Ireland in a 4 day game and 3 or 5 ODIs but now after the decision by the ICC has revoked that offer. Sounds very much like they are scared to me. In the last series Ireland also had key men missing. Ed Joyce did not play and either did Boyd Rankin and still 2-1 all being close games, this despite the fact that Ireland were playing at altitude and in alien conditions. Also on your point of playing SA, they are not your competition at the moment but Ireland are.

  • abhyudayj on April 12, 2011, 11:27 GMT

    IF WORLD CUP TEAM IS REDUCED TO 10, BUT 2011 WORLD CUP SHOULD CONTINUE

  • akashchandran on April 12, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    10 TEAMS PLAYING EACH OTHER MEANS A TOTAL OF 45 GAMES BEFORE THE SEMIFINALS. IF 3 DAY GAP BETWEEN MATCHES FOR EACH TEAM IS PROVIDED (EVEN THEN THE SEMIFINALISTS ARE GOING TO BE EXHAUSTED AFTER 9 TOUGH GAMES) IT SHALL BE 36 DAYS UPTO THE SEMIS. THEN ONE MORE WEEK FOR THE SEMIS AND FINALS. THEN HOW THE ICC CAN CLAIM THE WORLD CUP TO BE SHORTENED? THE BEST FORMAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 12 TEAMS DIVIDED INTO 2 GROUPS. TOP TWO IN EACH GROUP PROCEEDING TO SEMIS. THEN THE 2ND PLACED TEAM IN ONE GROUP TO PLAY THE THIRD PLACED TEAM IN THE OTHER GROUP TO FIND OUT THE NEXT TWO SEMIFINALISTS. THIS WOULD HAVE INVOLVED ONLY 35 MATCHES IN TOTAL. FINALISTS PLAYING MAXIMUM 8 GAMES. IT WOULD HAVE ALSO GIVE TEAMS LIKE IRELAND A CHANCE TO PLAY IN THE WORLD CUP.

  • Nduru on April 12, 2011, 10:11 GMT

    I fully support Ireland's cause, but for all of you guys claiming that Zim are scared and Ireland are somehow a far better team, please get real! A Zimbabwe without Ray Price beat Ireland in our last series less than 6 months ago. We also handed out a walloping to Ireland in one of the warm up games. All of our games against Ireland have come in the last 5 years when our team was very inexperienced and still recovering and yet we still have a better head to head record against Ireland. Besides, if we could also import lots of Australian and South African first class players like Ireland does, we would also be a stronger side. No guys, you can mock as much as you like, but Zim is not scared of losing, or why would we play SA regularly? I'd like to see Ireland or any other country display such reslience as we have while our country continues to have such political and economic woes.

  • Sanuvimal on April 12, 2011, 9:47 GMT

    Common icc plss give ireland a chance to prove your able to give BD hell lot of time 25 years and still no improvement but at the same time give ireland chance dont lookover as all the current countries started as underdogs once upon a time

  • on April 12, 2011, 9:08 GMT

    It is good that the next edition of the World Cup will be shorter but to expect it be more better quality-wise is only a fool's dream. ICC has made a huge mistake to give the automatic slots for all the 10 test playing nations for the 2015 WC. I think there should be a four nation qualification tourney at the start of 2014 between the best two ODI teams from the associate nations and the two worst sides of the test playing nations based on ICC ODI ranking by the end of 2013. All the four teams should play each other on a match home and away round robin basis and the best two sides should be in the 2015 ICC World Cup in AUS/NZ. My guess is if the current trends of performances holds sway, Ireland and Netherlands from the Associate nations and Bangladesh and Zimbabwe from the test playing nations should be involved in this qualification tournament.

  • KP_84 on April 12, 2011, 8:49 GMT

    I think it was a clever piece of thinking by the Cricket Ireland CEO to propose a bilateral series with Zimbabwe. Had Ireland won those matches, then they could rightly have gone back to the ICC and asked: a) why is it that Zimbabwe are deemed to be good enough to return to Test cricket and we aren't promoted to the highest level?; and b) how is it that Zimbabwe qualify automatically for the 2015 WC and yet we are deemed to not be good enough to deserve even a chance of qualifying for it? I think the ICC themselves might be relieved that tour isn't going ahead.

  • Haleos on April 12, 2011, 8:02 GMT

    @jordan_nofx - why except Ashes? Other countries have a right to play more if they want. You want to have 2 sets of rules.

  • soumyas on April 12, 2011, 7:50 GMT

    Zimbabwen's have FEAR of loosing to Ireland thats why they have declined the bilateral series.

  • soumyas on April 12, 2011, 7:48 GMT

    Keep Ireland,Bangladesh,Zimbabwe triangular Cups... Keep Netherland,Kenya,Canada triangular Cups... Arrange more matches between these 6 nations to see who emerges as top three ???

  • on April 12, 2011, 6:45 GMT

    i cant understand what is this policy of world cup format is, either they put in minnows with no competitiveness like Kenya, Netherlands & the very next tournament they kick the good ones like Ireland out as well. these nations have a right to play cricket as well, how long will oly 9 countries rule the world of cricket, we need more competition, more surprises, more entertainment. I support my country's Pakistan cricket board to give a green signal to Ireland, that is the spirit that should be shown by other countries as well.

  • on April 12, 2011, 6:00 GMT

    ireland is clearly better than zimbabwe and the zimmies r worried they might lose against an associate. lol

  • wiseshah on April 12, 2011, 5:44 GMT

    there should be equal number of test and ODI match for every nation. why india will play 100 matches and NZ will play only 20 matches. this is unfair

  • jordan_nofx on April 12, 2011, 5:30 GMT

    best way for up and coming teams to start is regular t20 games, with that said:

    regulate test and one day series (1-3 test except ashes, uniform 3 ODI) the rest of the time a 4-year t20 league among 14-16 teams is played

    each team players every other team 3 times home and 3 away over a 4 year period

    tri series can be played (with each team play the other two 3 times still) with trophies awarded for mini series wins

    associate teams may play some/all of their "home" games away from home for logisitical reasons

    after 4 years and roughly 90 games each (45 home, 45 away) top 4 teams qualify with 1st v 4th and 2nd v 3rd to playoff in 3 games series, winners play off in 5 game series with winner crowned world t20 champion

    same thing could be done in ODI (14 teams) and test (8 teams with relegation) which means that each team would play 25 t20, 18 ODI and 10 tests a year each

    which is a fair bit of cricket but not too much, and mort importantly every match counts

  • guppys_classmate on April 12, 2011, 5:14 GMT

    Look at the genius of ICC... The point in reducing the participating teams to 10 was to make all matches competitive and reduce one-sided matches. Bangladesh which scored 58 & 78 and Zim which just won one match in 2010 WC are going to make the tournament competitive but not Ireland who chased down 300+ totals twice and gave a scare to every test team (except SA) they played against in WC..

    With such geniuses at ICC, even if Ireland had made it to Semi Finals they wud still not be a Full Member.

    All Hail the ICC which wants to take cricket world over..

  • ssenthil on April 12, 2011, 5:10 GMT

    After Robbing the Full meal now Ireland gets some Peanuts as Consolation

  • banglafan on April 12, 2011, 4:56 GMT

    I totally agree with you, howizzat. That would be the best way, very equitable. If soccer World Cup can do it, why cant cricket, the gentlemen's game, do it too ?

  • Meety on April 12, 2011, 4:55 GMT

    Funny that Zim won't play them! It could be very embarrassing if they get beat in the ODIs & then still get automatic qualification.

  • BonyongoDestroyer on April 12, 2011, 4:46 GMT

    Worth noting that a full strength Ireland lost to Zimbabwe in a 3 match series in September 2010. Apart from that rather inconvenient fact, I am sure they are by far the greater team....

  • cricket2011 on April 12, 2011, 4:41 GMT

    15 ODI are not enough. At least 25-30 matches they should play against Test nations every years

  • harshalb on April 12, 2011, 4:39 GMT

    Best option for the 94 associates is to break away from ICC and form their own council. Let ICC be left high and dry with the 9 odd test playing members and no hopes of growth into other markets. They will wake up but this will need unity from the associates who are currently depending on grants from ICC.

  • howizzat on April 12, 2011, 3:46 GMT

    Best way out should be a qualifying tournament that includes bottom 3 test playing nations and 5 associates vying for the remaining 3 spots in WC 2015. Pressure should be built up on ICC so that better senses prevail upon.

  • on April 12, 2011, 2:24 GMT

    Ireland, that is the way to go. Challenge the big "guys" and you will surely get the attention. I encourage them to set up a visit to Pakistan and I certain Pakistan would reciprocate by visiting Ireland. There is so Pakistani diaspora in Ireland and they would be thrilled to see their team in Dublin.

    Are there Irish fans willing to step up encourage that!

  • Params7 on April 12, 2011, 2:03 GMT

    Don't stop until the World Cup, Ireland. Fight your way out. Zimbabwe and Bangladesh NEED to be put to a qualifier.

  • on April 12, 2011, 1:22 GMT

    Excellent article, I see this as an opportunity and I hope Ireland Board notice this, recently there is NO international cricket at all in Pakistan, Ireland cricket should write to PCB and tell them that they are willing to come in Pakistan and play cricket, this will not only help Ireland but Pakistan cricket as well.

    I hope Ireland think on these terms and I am sure PCB will never say NO, because people of Pakistan deserve to watch matches being played inside Pakistan as they are 1 of the Top 4 nations who play Cricket.

    GO AND PLAY AGAINST PAKISTAN IN PAKISTAN, WAY TO GO !

  • HyderabadiFlick on April 12, 2011, 1:17 GMT

    I still feel that at least 2 teams will be included eventually for 2015 world cup. One team surely be Ireland. These are still early days for ICC to make a decision on the format of the next World Cup. There will be a change to the ICC board members and their thinking. And they may support the emerging cricketing nations. So, I strongly feel that we can delay our discussions on this topic.

  • the_evil_weevil on April 12, 2011, 0:54 GMT

    Good to see Ireland will be playing more top level cricket next year- but why did Zimbabwe cancel their tour? Beating Ireland would be a chance to prove they are truly better than Associate level... surely they aren't afraid of losing? Are the ICC afraid that Ireland will prove their automatic 10 team decision to be a total joke after all by beating a full member?

  • on April 12, 2011, 0:44 GMT

    Zim is certainly trying to hide as they don't want to be shattered and exposed against non-test playing nation. to me Irish r better than Zim any day

  • on April 12, 2011, 0:42 GMT

    I feel sorry for the associates if there r to move up in Cricket it will be ODI and T20. ICC need to sack teams that r doing really bad in Test Cricket like ZIm. Ban. and even WI. Watching Aus. vs Ban. in a Test is so boring and Ban. and Zim will not get better in another 10 yrs. Only cricket fans don't get what they demand.

  • on April 11, 2011, 23:41 GMT

    aus eng ned to say something along wi all these teams need to support

  • Andy500265 on April 11, 2011, 22:59 GMT

    I still can't get my head around the fact that the associates won't be at the next WC. Yeah, this year they weren't real strong (with one glaring exception who scared the hell out of all the teams they played), but some of the teams came in with an awful lot of very young and inexperienced players who, in four years time, could be very dangerous. Also, to shorten the group phase (which felt like it went on for all of eternity), they could have 4 games a day, like they should have. Then, we could keep the WC with the no. of teams it had this year.

  • on April 11, 2011, 22:56 GMT

    Good on Ireland - they have the talent, they have the courage, they have the discipline, they can make it to World Cups!!

  • zimbos_05 on April 11, 2011, 22:45 GMT

    Zimbabwe should have accepted this tour. It is exactly what they need. Ireland are above us in the ODI rankings and we need to show that we are back on the world stage and can compete ont he big stage. Ireland are as close as we will get to playing full strength major sides that we can actually improve and gauge where we are. Im going to write to ZCU to express my disgust.

  • andrew.henshaw on April 11, 2011, 22:15 GMT

    Good to hear. Disappointed about Zimbabwe though - i feel they are scared of the consequences of losing to Ireland.

  • on April 11, 2011, 21:42 GMT

    best of luck we want to see u in nxt wordcup...........u hv.....indias full support.....!!!!!

  • rafe01 on April 11, 2011, 21:28 GMT

    Bring Ireland to Oz! Apparently you need a minimum of 25 characters.

  • roxap on April 11, 2011, 21:28 GMT

    why we hav bangladesh, they deserve not to be among test playing nations,ireland should be given test status

  • on April 11, 2011, 21:25 GMT

    I wish Bangladesh and Zimbabwe would not hide under the fig leaf of full membership

  • TalhaShamsi on April 11, 2011, 21:17 GMT

    i think the irish team deserves a place in the 2015 world cup...if bangladesh can get a test status by beating pakistan in the 1999 worldcup then why not the irish team...v hv already seen quite a num of upsets and outstanding performance by them...in my point of view,the irish team is equally competent as the bang team and they hv the ability to beat any side in the world...i too support the team Ireland and i believe that my Pakistani nation would also support you... Regards, Talha Shamsi

  • on April 11, 2011, 20:49 GMT

    good but they must also be in wc 2015

  • ManHOOS on April 11, 2011, 20:41 GMT

    come on Ireland Pakistan is with you You have rocking talent

  • Rakesh_Sharma on April 11, 2011, 20:34 GMT

    This ODI will help them develop even better. But come what may, 87% of cricket fans( check poll on this site) want Ireland in 2015.

  • Jonah58 on April 11, 2011, 20:20 GMT

    Yeah we will get up to 15 ODI's a year, 4 are already planned for this year thats somewhere between 0 and 15, even if we get nothing else the ICC can turn round and say, we fulfilled our commitment you got what was promised ie: up to 15 ODI's

    I guess these prety much sum up my thoughts. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/426384.html http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/503364.htm

  • bala-chala on April 11, 2011, 20:16 GMT

    A very colourful individual on TV keeps saying that wanting to win is more important than winning. Zimbabwe doesn't even want to play. Cricket Ireland should not blindly believe the BCCI, lest they want to be let down again.

  • Zahidsaltin on April 11, 2011, 20:16 GMT

    There is something which doesn't add up for me. When ICC is giving ODI status to some nations then how can it hold them out to compete for World cup for ODIs. Its legally, morally and technically wrong. All associates needto stand together and form an organisation to fight for their rights. Thy should even boycott all ICC activities and threaten to form their own paralel organisation. Ireland should also demand England to be forbidden to take players from Ireland. It is time for England to have a team of englishmen and that a worldXI reprsenting them.

  • Hassan.Farooqi on April 11, 2011, 20:15 GMT

    The amicable solution is to abolish the test status. Instead, there should be a Major League of 8 team where 2 are relegated each year, and a Big League which should have 8 members as well with 2 relegations. The rest could be in the Minor League. These league should be separate for 5DI (eliminate the term test), ODI, and T20I. This way Australia may be in 5DI Major League, but for T20 it may find itself in Big League

  • Sportsscientist on April 11, 2011, 20:01 GMT

    it would be good for ireland to have arranged a game against zimbabwe. they need to get a sense of how good they are against other test nations. Also ireland can arrnage tours during the winter as they can get all their county players without clashing with the ECB and the english summer. Austrialia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, South Africa can all be played in between sept/oct and march.

  • on April 11, 2011, 19:49 GMT

    Good good, but we will not stop until we're at the 2015 World Cup.

  • akpy on April 11, 2011, 19:44 GMT

    when you see how aussies thrashed bangladesh in their own den today, ireland will most definitely fare better and hence deserve better...they do need more and more exposure against the top teams somehow..

  • Rakesh_Sharma on April 11, 2011, 19:38 GMT

    They should play both home and away series. Home series must give Ireland some home advantage so that they beat teams easily.Best is against teams like Bangladesh some ODI must be played on neutral venue so that Bangladesh does not get advantage of home conditions with very bad slow dead pitches wher ball dies down after pitching (uncricket type wicket).

  • on April 11, 2011, 19:35 GMT

    i hope you succeed to secure a place in the next world cup Ireland.....you have been outstanding these past few years !!! You have India's full support and also mine...

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  • on April 11, 2011, 19:35 GMT

    i hope you succeed to secure a place in the next world cup Ireland.....you have been outstanding these past few years !!! You have India's full support and also mine...

  • Rakesh_Sharma on April 11, 2011, 19:38 GMT

    They should play both home and away series. Home series must give Ireland some home advantage so that they beat teams easily.Best is against teams like Bangladesh some ODI must be played on neutral venue so that Bangladesh does not get advantage of home conditions with very bad slow dead pitches wher ball dies down after pitching (uncricket type wicket).

  • akpy on April 11, 2011, 19:44 GMT

    when you see how aussies thrashed bangladesh in their own den today, ireland will most definitely fare better and hence deserve better...they do need more and more exposure against the top teams somehow..

  • on April 11, 2011, 19:49 GMT

    Good good, but we will not stop until we're at the 2015 World Cup.

  • Sportsscientist on April 11, 2011, 20:01 GMT

    it would be good for ireland to have arranged a game against zimbabwe. they need to get a sense of how good they are against other test nations. Also ireland can arrnage tours during the winter as they can get all their county players without clashing with the ECB and the english summer. Austrialia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, South Africa can all be played in between sept/oct and march.

  • Hassan.Farooqi on April 11, 2011, 20:15 GMT

    The amicable solution is to abolish the test status. Instead, there should be a Major League of 8 team where 2 are relegated each year, and a Big League which should have 8 members as well with 2 relegations. The rest could be in the Minor League. These league should be separate for 5DI (eliminate the term test), ODI, and T20I. This way Australia may be in 5DI Major League, but for T20 it may find itself in Big League

  • Zahidsaltin on April 11, 2011, 20:16 GMT

    There is something which doesn't add up for me. When ICC is giving ODI status to some nations then how can it hold them out to compete for World cup for ODIs. Its legally, morally and technically wrong. All associates needto stand together and form an organisation to fight for their rights. Thy should even boycott all ICC activities and threaten to form their own paralel organisation. Ireland should also demand England to be forbidden to take players from Ireland. It is time for England to have a team of englishmen and that a worldXI reprsenting them.

  • bala-chala on April 11, 2011, 20:16 GMT

    A very colourful individual on TV keeps saying that wanting to win is more important than winning. Zimbabwe doesn't even want to play. Cricket Ireland should not blindly believe the BCCI, lest they want to be let down again.

  • Jonah58 on April 11, 2011, 20:20 GMT

    Yeah we will get up to 15 ODI's a year, 4 are already planned for this year thats somewhere between 0 and 15, even if we get nothing else the ICC can turn round and say, we fulfilled our commitment you got what was promised ie: up to 15 ODI's

    I guess these prety much sum up my thoughts. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/426384.html http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/503364.htm

  • Rakesh_Sharma on April 11, 2011, 20:34 GMT

    This ODI will help them develop even better. But come what may, 87% of cricket fans( check poll on this site) want Ireland in 2015.