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England's all-time team has just two players from the last 30 years
August 28, 2009
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All-time XI: England : What does this team tell us?
Players/Officials:
Sir Jack Hobbs
| Sir Leonard Hutton
| Wally Hammond
| Ken Barrington
| Kevin Pietersen
| Sir Ian Botham
| Alan Knott
| Derek Underwood
| Harold Larwood
| Fred Trueman
| Sydney Barnes
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Kevin Pietersen has been accepted as one of England's greatest players. And nobody else from his generation cuts the mustard. That is the remarkable verdict the country's pundits and public have delivered, as we reveal the results of Cricinfo's search for the all-time England XI.
This process began six months ago, with the initial deliberations of a select band of 10 jurors, representing the cream of the English cricket-writing fraternity. It was then broken down into six sub-sections - the search for two opening batsmen, three middle-order stalwarts, an allrounder, a wicketkeeper, a spinner and three quicks.
The results are quite astonishing, for they reveal a lasting deference to the greats of a bygone era. From the top-order trio of Jack Hobbs, Len Hutton and Wally Hammond, through the mighty stonewaller Ken Barrington, to the all-round axis of Ian Botham and Alan Knott, modernity scarcely gets a look-in.
The bowling is equally dominated by the champions of yesteryear. The brutish aggression of Harold Larwood and Fred Trueman, the deadly left arm of Kent's Derek Underwood, and last, but so far from being least, the oldest and most incomparable man on the list, Sydney Barnes, whose tally of 189 wickets in 27 Tests gives a surface-level idea of the threat he posed with his boundless array of seaming, swinging, spinning deliveries.
But then there is Pietersen, standing out from the crowd once again, the youngest on the list by more than 30 years, having made his Test debut almost two decades after Ian Botham's career reached its pomp. Admittedly, KP made it to the final reckoning by the skin of his teeth - he tied for jurors' votes with none other than the Brylcreem Boy, Denis Compton, but thanks to the public's vote of confidence he claims his place nonetheless.
This accolade is unlikely to come as much consolation to Pietersen as he recovers from his Achilles operation, while facing up to the fact that he was a peripheral figure in England's 2009 Ashes triumph. But then again, perhaps it will prove to be the perfect consolation. Because if there is one thing that Pietersen seeks beyond fame, fortune and glory, it is acceptance. He seems set to divide opinion for the remainder of his career, but right now, KP couldn't be in more illustrious company.
12th man Denis Compton
Cricinfo readers' XI
We invited readers to vote on the nominees in each segment. Here's who they picked.
Jack Hobbs, Len Hutton, Wally Hammond, David Gower, Kevin Pietersen, Alan Knott, Ian Botham, Harold Larwood, Jim Laker, Fred Trueman, Sydney Barnes
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Andrew Miller was saved from a life of drudgery in the City when his car caught fire on the way to an interview. He took this as a sign and fled to Pakistan where he witnessed England's historic victory in the twilight at Karachi (or thought he did, at any rate - it was too dark to tell). He then joined Wisden Online in 2001, and soon graduated from put-upon photocopier to a writer with a penchant for comment and cricket on the subcontinent. In addition to Pakistan, he has covered England tours in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand, as well as the World Cup in the Caribbean in 2007
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mk49_van. I quite agree with you. Foreigners should not even be considered for the best of England. Even if they were great which KP is not.
Posted by Engle on (August 30, 2009, 17:48 GMT)2nd XI : Sutcliffe, Boycott, Grace, May(vc), Compton, Jardine (c),Stewart (w), Tyson, Bedser, Laker, Verity.
There, now I feel satiated
Posted by Aussieicon91 on (August 30, 2009, 12:05 GMT)I think that people are going to have to come to grips with the fact that the Alltime XI, that these so called "experts" are deciding on, aren't going to be accurate. The Australian side was incorrectly chosen (Not picking Hayden and Ponting) and the whole structure of how they are picking the sides is rather poor to say the least. Jim Laker should be picked over Derek Underwood and in a few years time, these selectors could be made to look foolish if Pietersen goes through a terrible run of form, his averaging drops to the early 40's and he never plays again.
Posted by vimalan on (August 29, 2009, 16:56 GMT)KP in all time XI ? are you guys serious..he is a good batsman and thats about it. Don't just go with popular vote alone since people may not seen the old stalwarts. KP does not deserve his place in all time XI
Posted by mandi on (August 29, 2009, 13:00 GMT)In my point of view wicketkeeper stewart is best and trescothick is no. one opener.
Posted by waspsting on (August 29, 2009, 9:14 GMT)pretty amusing commentary. Botham was NOT fast like Larwood - when he bowled short, batsmen looked for runs, not to save their head. He may have swung the ball like Trueman, but Trueman was genuinely fast, while Botham wasn't. He did bowl a beautiful outswinger, at least at the start of his career, but the short stuff he'd have been better without. He wasn't quick enough for it. Larwood "still gets the wick up the Australians", because he was bowling to a tactic which ANY major fast bowler could have succeeded with (and which was even then considered unethical and today is ruled illegal on top of that). When he wasn't bowling bodyline, he had the odd good performance (as any decent bowler will) but was overall quite mediocre. Bradman himself made this point and claimed he found Ken Farnes a harder bowler to face. Larwood's average against Australia - sans bodyline - is 43!
Posted by kpisthebest on (August 29, 2009, 3:10 GMT)GRR3,
Yeah he is not technically sound against the spinners as unlike other players from England he has hammered Murali,Warne and co.
Ah so as per you scoring runs against Warne must not be a great thing isn't it???
Posted by kpisthebest on (August 29, 2009, 3:05 GMT)Prashanth,
Yeah KP would have failed against the likes of McGrath as he only scored about 500 runs at an average of over 50 against McGrath and co in Aus.
Scoring about 500 runs against McGrath and co in Australia is no joke for sure!!!
Posted by hokora on (August 28, 2009, 23:02 GMT)There are a few bizarre choices in this team. Botham?! Sorry, his performances against the dominant team of his era (WI) were pitiful. The team has to be able to play the best, so you need to have players who have proved themselves against the best. I fail to see how Underwood can be picked over Verity, who proved himself against that tremendous Aussie batting of the 1930s. As for Larwood, his test performances were not great outside the infamous Bodyline series. It makes more sense to pick a squad than a team, actually (since pitches vary). I'd go for a squad of 12: Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hutton, Hammond, May, WG Grace, Knott, Rhodes, Verity, Trueman, Bedser, Barnes. Hardest is to pick the fast/fast-medium bowlers. If allowed a squad of 16, I'd add Tyson, Maurice Tate (same era as Larwood but a better bowler), KP and Les Ames (assuming you need a reserve keeper).
Posted by SridharSampath on (August 28, 2009, 21:02 GMT)I can't understand how Godfrey Evans wasn't there in the short-list of wicketkeepers. He played 90+ Tests purely as a keeper. His batting avg was about 15 which means he should have been one heck of a keeper to have played that many Tests. Larwood didn't even get 100 Test wickets, though one may argue that wasn't his fault entirely. Bob Willis has a better record and has toured all countries. KP over Compton or Cowdrey at this point in time seems surprising even though he might make it to this XI more convincingly after 5 more years.