Allrounder August 17, 2010

Two skills, four men

In Indian cricket, the term allrounder has often been used with a disclaimer. But not for these players
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The true allrounder comprises two roughly equal halves. Specifically, he ought to be able to make a century and claim five wickets. Indian allrounders, with few exceptions, have had their skills in somewhat different proportions, sometimes a third and two-thirds making up the whole, or a quarter and three quarters.

The smaller fraction has often enabled those deemed allrounders to make it to the national side ahead of specialists. The bits-and-pieces allrounders sometimes switched roles - becoming batsmen when they were expected to be bowlers and vice versa. Often the term allrounder in Indian cricket has had to appear within inverted commas to denote embarrassment.

This was partly political. For years a top-class offspinner like Venkataraghavan was passed off as an "allrounder" to give him a more impressive CV than his rival Erapalli Prasanna. It suited the powers that controlled Indian cricket then. At other times it was merely about convenience or desperation. Suru Nayak went on a tour of England in 1982 as a mystery cricketer - was he batsman or bowler? - and returned with the mystery unsolved. Sachin Tendulkar is probably a better allrounder than many who played within those inverted commas.

Many have had dual personalities, as it were. Roger Binny, for example, opened the batting for Karnataka and scored a double-century in a 451-run partnership, but in international cricket he was a medium-pacer. Chandu Sarwate went to England as a spinner but was an opening batsman against Bradman's Australians. Wicketkeeper Budhi Kunderan opened India's bowling after telling his skipper, who asked him what kind of bowler he was: "I'll have to bowl to find out."

Lala Amarnath, India's first centurion, also opened the bowling, once dismissing Denis Compton first ball. He also kept wicket as substitute and finished with five victims. His bowling (off the wrong foot after just a few paces) improved as his batting declined in the latter part of his career, justifying the call made by many players to have more than one arrow in their quiver to extend their careers.

Amarnath was, in fact, the first Indian allrounder to claim five in an innings and score a half-century in the same Test, at Lord's in 1946. Amar Singh had come close a little over a decade earlier, with his 7 for 86 and a second-innings 48 in the Madras Test against England.

The candidates

Kapil Dev
Quite the most remarkable thing about him - apart from his 5248 runs and 434 wickets - was how he kept himself fit over 131 Tests without missing one through injury. A natural athlete, he brought to the game a sense of joy that communicated itself to those watching. With the last man at the crease, he once hit four sixes in a row to avert the follow-on. In the land of spinners, he led the medium-pacer revolution.

Dattu Phadkar
To those who worshipped him on the Kolkata maidans, he was not so much a prototype of Kapil Dev as the original from which a lesser version emerged. Phadkar was not only a fine medium-pacer, he was one of the finest players of medium pace in the team. A century against Bradman's Australia gave him a series average of 52. His eight wickets included those of Bradman, Morris and Miller.

Vinoo Mankad
Was the quickest to the double till Ian Botham broke the record. Held the record of India's highest individual score and most wickets in an innings, extending that to most in career till a new generation of spinners took over. At Lord's in 1952 he scored 72 and 184 and claimed 5 for 196 in the first innings, bowling 97 overs in the match.

Manoj Prabhakar
One Test century and 96 wickets in 39 Tests do not tell the story of Prabhakar's value to the team. The first Indian medium-pacer to master reverse swing during a tour of Pakistan, he made up in variation what he lacked in pace. He opened the batting too, making 95 in a Test in New Zealand from that position.

We'll be publishing an all-time India XI based on readers' votes to go with our jury's XI. To pick your allrounder click here

Suresh Menon is a writer based in Bangalore

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  • POSTED BY on | August 20, 2010, 23:09 GMT

    Sehwag, Sunny, Dravid, Sachin, Laxman, Kapil, Dhoni, Kumble, Bedi, Srinath, Binny

  • POSTED BY on | August 20, 2010, 17:10 GMT

    Kapil Dev absolutely. This was no brainer.................. I genuinely think that Ravi shastri should have been picked ahead of Manoj Prabhakar. I found some1 suggesting Ravindra Jadeja's name.......... lol Ravindra Jadeja havent played a single test match till date, how can you suggest his name for India's All time great XI?

  • POSTED BY kushur on | August 20, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    yeah, how come Manioj Prabhakar can be nominated aheda of Ravi Shashtri?? Though not to suggest that Ravi Shastri a deserving candidate for all time XI, but miles ahead of Prabhakar..

  • POSTED BY RayShaumik on | August 19, 2010, 18:16 GMT

    TO Featherbed_Champ

    Very well said.... I absolutely agree with every word you said. from the current generation batsmen ONLY SACHIN and DRAVID and maybe Sehwag should be in the batting order. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR ANYONE ELSE... Gavaskar, Amarnath, Viswhawant,Hazare should make up the rest ....

  • POSTED BY on | August 19, 2010, 16:59 GMT

    No discussion on this, Kapil dev, and I want to say something regarding choices for allrounder. Its a shmae for Indian Cricket that the name of Manoj Prabhakar is mentioned in this list ahead of many others better than him???????

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 19, 2010, 16:18 GMT

    as for mentions apart from baloo i believe spinners vv kumar, shivalkar, goel, kanwaljit singh, kripal singh rate a mention and pacers shute banerjee n t a shekar all of whom were unlucky not to play tests or played too few tests, n batsman d b deodhar

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 19, 2010, 16:14 GMT

    batting- after double checking viru's record on the few not so flat decks he played on i could agree to risk viru in place of merchant as opener instead of mid order if the fact that both sunny and viru (superstition?) prefer to bat at no 1 and not at no 2 is reconciled; in that case a mid order position opens up in my xi and i could accept any 1 of merchant, hazare or vvs at no 3 - vvs having the safest pair of hands close in of the 3, none of the 3 was a good fielder in the deep) with jimmy amarnath shifting to no 5; i stick to kapil as the all rounder, sunny n sachin as certainties and nissar n amar singh as the 2 other opening bowlers and engineer as wicketkeeper.

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 19, 2010, 16:05 GMT

    the only certainties are sunny, sachin n kapil; if we select the 2 spinners with the best away records it would be chandra n gupte- which is possible as they were very different types of leggies; but gupte had only 3 away series (of which pakistan was on matting wickets); while i've no doubt personally that he was by far the best traditional leggie produced by india and 1 of the all time best anywhere with warne oreilly etc i am not sure if his away record is sufficiently representative- and india didnt win an away test in his time; bedi adds variety, made a good pair with chandra, took a 5 for almost every country he toured (10 for in narrow loss at spinners grave perth 77) was a success at county level and was selected (with gavaskar n engineer for the 71-72 world xi tour of oz; earlier pataudi was -a bit lucky- selected for the world xi tour of england in 65); but i could accept gupte as the 2nd spinner (chandra 1st) ahead of bedi;

  • POSTED BY Bhavyang29 on | August 19, 2010, 10:51 GMT

    I certainly think so Kapil Dev is the best all rounder India has ever produced. How can you put Manoj Prabhakar ahead of Ravi Shashtri? Apart from his batting , bowlong and fielding skills he posees a very good cricketing brain which is very useful for a captain in tight situations.

  • POSTED BY sanj1981 on | August 19, 2010, 10:37 GMT

    how about Ravindra Jadeja? top all rounder............

  • POSTED BY on | August 20, 2010, 23:09 GMT

    Sehwag, Sunny, Dravid, Sachin, Laxman, Kapil, Dhoni, Kumble, Bedi, Srinath, Binny

  • POSTED BY on | August 20, 2010, 17:10 GMT

    Kapil Dev absolutely. This was no brainer.................. I genuinely think that Ravi shastri should have been picked ahead of Manoj Prabhakar. I found some1 suggesting Ravindra Jadeja's name.......... lol Ravindra Jadeja havent played a single test match till date, how can you suggest his name for India's All time great XI?

  • POSTED BY kushur on | August 20, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    yeah, how come Manioj Prabhakar can be nominated aheda of Ravi Shashtri?? Though not to suggest that Ravi Shastri a deserving candidate for all time XI, but miles ahead of Prabhakar..

  • POSTED BY RayShaumik on | August 19, 2010, 18:16 GMT

    TO Featherbed_Champ

    Very well said.... I absolutely agree with every word you said. from the current generation batsmen ONLY SACHIN and DRAVID and maybe Sehwag should be in the batting order. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR ANYONE ELSE... Gavaskar, Amarnath, Viswhawant,Hazare should make up the rest ....

  • POSTED BY on | August 19, 2010, 16:59 GMT

    No discussion on this, Kapil dev, and I want to say something regarding choices for allrounder. Its a shmae for Indian Cricket that the name of Manoj Prabhakar is mentioned in this list ahead of many others better than him???????

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 19, 2010, 16:18 GMT

    as for mentions apart from baloo i believe spinners vv kumar, shivalkar, goel, kanwaljit singh, kripal singh rate a mention and pacers shute banerjee n t a shekar all of whom were unlucky not to play tests or played too few tests, n batsman d b deodhar

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 19, 2010, 16:14 GMT

    batting- after double checking viru's record on the few not so flat decks he played on i could agree to risk viru in place of merchant as opener instead of mid order if the fact that both sunny and viru (superstition?) prefer to bat at no 1 and not at no 2 is reconciled; in that case a mid order position opens up in my xi and i could accept any 1 of merchant, hazare or vvs at no 3 - vvs having the safest pair of hands close in of the 3, none of the 3 was a good fielder in the deep) with jimmy amarnath shifting to no 5; i stick to kapil as the all rounder, sunny n sachin as certainties and nissar n amar singh as the 2 other opening bowlers and engineer as wicketkeeper.

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 19, 2010, 16:05 GMT

    the only certainties are sunny, sachin n kapil; if we select the 2 spinners with the best away records it would be chandra n gupte- which is possible as they were very different types of leggies; but gupte had only 3 away series (of which pakistan was on matting wickets); while i've no doubt personally that he was by far the best traditional leggie produced by india and 1 of the all time best anywhere with warne oreilly etc i am not sure if his away record is sufficiently representative- and india didnt win an away test in his time; bedi adds variety, made a good pair with chandra, took a 5 for almost every country he toured (10 for in narrow loss at spinners grave perth 77) was a success at county level and was selected (with gavaskar n engineer for the 71-72 world xi tour of oz; earlier pataudi was -a bit lucky- selected for the world xi tour of england in 65); but i could accept gupte as the 2nd spinner (chandra 1st) ahead of bedi;

  • POSTED BY Bhavyang29 on | August 19, 2010, 10:51 GMT

    I certainly think so Kapil Dev is the best all rounder India has ever produced. How can you put Manoj Prabhakar ahead of Ravi Shashtri? Apart from his batting , bowlong and fielding skills he posees a very good cricketing brain which is very useful for a captain in tight situations.

  • POSTED BY sanj1981 on | August 19, 2010, 10:37 GMT

    how about Ravindra Jadeja? top all rounder............

  • POSTED BY RayShaumik on | August 19, 2010, 6:32 GMT

    How is it possible??!! Firstly, no nomination for Vijay Manjrekar in India's middle order which has Saurav Ganguly(!!) and VVS Laxman.

    And now there is Prabhakar (around 1000 test runs and 90 odd wkts) but no Shastri (more than 3000 test runs, including 11 centuries and 150 test wkts)

  • POSTED BY Remus_Lupin on | August 19, 2010, 6:06 GMT

    To all those who can't see beyond last 5/6 years, take this as Alltime "Flat Track Bully" India XI... Gambhir, Viru, Dravid, Sachin, Lax, Gangu, Dhoni, Kumble, Bhajji, Srinath, Zaheer...Happy?..You better be by having half of the batsmen as flat track bullies & "don't insult me by asking to be even 1% effective on away/unhelpful pitches" type bowlers...Except Dravid & Sachin, all of them a mediocre bunch of jokers (Kumble/Lax are definite genuine triers but still score less marks on skill parameter)

  • POSTED BY tusharsb on | August 19, 2010, 2:52 GMT

    My All Time Indian XI : 1. Gavaskar - regarded as the best opener ever(ask Richie Benaud, Sobers, Lloyd... made copious run against best attacks - WI/AUS/Pak ) 2.Sehwag 3. Dravid 4.Tendulkar 5.Laxman (won us quite a few really difficult to win matches, Vishy had his share of failures, Ganguly tho grt ODI batsman and good test player ..had his issues against real fast bowling, Azhar just misses out) 6 Vinoo Mankad/Hazare/... (Mankad was an outstanding alrounder! Hazare was an outstanding batsman who could also bowl useful medium pace with really good first class record) 7.Dhoni/Engineer 8.kapil 9.ZaK/Prasanna/Md Nissar (Don't know how good were Mhd Nissar and Amar Singh!!). 10.Srinath 11. S Gupte (Regarded as best spinner ever by people who saw him .. likes of Sobers; did not need pitch to assist him unlike others! Chandra just misses out) People should look at the player's records all over the world (E.g. Kumble, Bhajji aren't as effective overseas ..even grt Bedi for that matter)

  • POSTED BY Antir on | August 18, 2010, 23:44 GMT

    I did consider Vinoo Mankad and it was his strike rate vs Kapil Dev's strike rate that tipped the balance plus the leadership qulaities and energy of Kapil Dev that made the choice easy.

    Maybe he will make the spinners list.

  • POSTED BY JPAGRAWAL on | August 18, 2010, 18:18 GMT

    All-time Indian XI should be : 1. GAVASKER 2. SEHWAG 3. DRAVID 4. TENDULKAR 5. LAXMAN 6. VINOO MANKAD 7. DHONI 8. KAPIL 9. KUMBLE 10. HARBHAJAN 11. SRINATH.

  • POSTED BY Murtaza. on | August 18, 2010, 18:15 GMT

    #1 Sunil Gavasker, #2 Vijay Merchant, or Virendra Sehvag, #3 Rahul Dravid, #4 Sachin Tendulkar, #5 Hazare or wishwanath, #6 Vinoo Mankad, #7 Kirmani or Engineer, #8 Kapil De, #9 Javagal Srinath, #10 Anil Kumble, #11 Chandr Shekhra or Bishan sing bedi or E. Prasanna I hope these players are good enough to make place in the All time Indian XI. with last three spinners we can´t forget subahsh Gupte... and Azhar ud din as 12th man the ever best Indian filder and very good batsman too I wish he could make place at no. 5 in this XI. In all rounders where is Ravi Shastri, he should have been in the short list, and why Parbarkar is there "A MINI All ROUNDER" Irfan Pathan was better choice then him. I am sorry for Indian selecters, who can´t see the diffrence in good and average players.

  • POSTED BY CricAtJam on | August 18, 2010, 16:35 GMT

    i say KAPIL DEV - a true cricketer.....

  • POSTED BY vipin.chaudhary2325 on | August 18, 2010, 16:13 GMT

    gavaskar, sehwag, dravid, vishwanath, mohinder amarnath, vijay hazare, kapil dev, dhoni, kumble, bedi, srinath... (kapil & hazare, bacause they are good as a batsman and good as a bowler)... gavaskar & Sehwa(bacuse no one else aeven challenge them"), (dravid & Sachin - automatic choice) (amarnath - played some of the best innings against fast bowlers & also a useful bowler), vijay hazare (greater then his stats shows), kapil dev(automatic choice at number 7), dhoni(his wicket keeping might not be as good, but better batting allows him to be in the team), kumble(great bowler), bedi(u need a kind of player in ur team), srinath(bowl very fine on flatches in Asia)

  • POSTED BY deepaksam on | August 18, 2010, 13:09 GMT

    The 5 certainities in the Indian Team are Gavaskar, Dravid, Sachin, Kapil and Kumble. I dont know how Shastri is missed and Prabhakar is rated an allrounder...

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 18, 2010, 11:07 GMT

    actually my revised all time india xi- sunny, merchant, jimmy amarnath, sachin, viru, engineer, kapil, amar singh, bedi, nissar n chandra

    but if for home tests only is an option- sunny, mankad, dravid, sachin, vishy, laxman, kapil, kiri, kumble, srinath n gupte

  • POSTED BY MADDY_INURHEART on | August 18, 2010, 11:00 GMT

    the obvious choice whether you go with stats or with instincts is Kapil Dev........

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 18, 2010, 10:18 GMT

    if separate home n away teams- home- sunny, viru, laxman, sachin, vishy, dhoni,kapil, mankad, kumble, srinath, (any of ahmed, bhajji, chandra or gupte) away- sunny, merchant,hazare,sachin, jimmy amarnath,engineer, kapil, amar singh, (any of gupte, bedi or prasanna), nissar, chandra but remains a poor fielding side either way any of surti, tiger, azhar or solkar as 12th man

  • POSTED BY on | August 18, 2010, 9:45 GMT

    best x1 ever!1,gavasker2.sehwag3,dravid4,tendulkar5,laxman6,shastri7,dev8,dhoni9,kumble10,srinath11,khan, team to play @home matchs

  • POSTED BY cv_2005 on | August 18, 2010, 9:26 GMT

    As per my opinion when India is playing in the sub-continent the best Indian XI is Sunil Gavaskar, Virendra Sehwag, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, Vizaya Hazare, Vinoo Mankad, Kapil Dev, MS Dhoni, Anil Kumble, Javagal Srinath and Bishen Singh Bedi. And when India is playing away from the sub-continent the best XI is Sunil Gavaskar, Virendra Sehwag, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, Vizaya Hazare, Vinoo Mankad, Kapil Dev, MS Dhoni, Anil Kumble, Javagal Srinath and Zaheer Khan.

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 18, 2010, 8:56 GMT

    correction- i believe nissar could learn the modern art of reverse swing (not away swing)

  • POSTED BY BestIndiaPakXI on | August 18, 2010, 8:54 GMT

    (1) Sunil Gavasker (IND), (2) Virendra Sehvag (IND), (3) Vijay Merchant (IND), (4) Sachin Tendulkar (IND), (5) Rahul Dravid (IND), (6) Kapil De (IND) (C), (7) Mahendra Dhoni (IND) (WK) (VC), (8) Javagal Srinath (IND), (9) Zaheer Khan (PAK), (10) Anil Kumble (IND), (11) Subhash Gupte (IND),

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 18, 2010, 8:43 GMT

    pps- we also dont know if the old or new no ball rules will apply and whether the traditional ball, dukes, or modern sg or kookaburra balls will be used; lets say india would play 1/5 tests under old no ball rule n 3/5 with the traditional ball, 1/5 kookaburra, 1/5 sg?

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 18, 2010, 8:37 GMT

    @harshalb- if we look at away tests i do believe that nissar,kapil, amar, gupte n chandra would be a highly competitive attack (better than new zealands); kapil n amar also raise the fielding standards; with possibly pras in place of amar or gupte down under and bedi on some venues; but wheres the finger spinner? chandra (brisk, bounce, tall, mainly googlies n flippers after 71, more turn than kumble on away tours) and gupte (slow, flight, short, thinker, leg break as stock ball but all variety too) were different n maybe complementary; but if 3 spinners i would plump for chandra, bedi n pras for variety and since all 3 won tests abroad (bedi had a 10 for at perth in a narrow loss); my only concern with amar singh (though i'd select him if 2 pace+all round kapil is the format+2 spin , as he'd still be more valuable than others) is whether his bowling would adapt to modern flat wickets n bats; i believe nissar would learn the art of away swing and his extra pace provide needed variety

  • POSTED BY nataraajds on | August 18, 2010, 8:30 GMT

    Automatic choice for alrounder slot is - kapildev..no one can match him... Vinu Mankad in my XI along with Prasanna, Anil kumble as spinners --- the XI is -- GAVASKAR, SEHWAG, DRAVID, SACHIN, VISHY ,KIRMANI, KAPILDEV, J.SRINATH, V.MANKAD, PRASANNA AND ANILKUMBLE.

  • POSTED BY cricfanraj on | August 18, 2010, 8:19 GMT

    I see few people recommanding Amarnath for All rounder position. You must be kidding :-) He is a bowler for One day not for test anytime. You see his average Close to 56 . Hahaha. All that everyone remember about Prabhakar is Jayasurya hitting him all round the park. But please he was a real good bolwer but his last two years he was pathetic. I used to wish why he was not dropped from 1994. Over all he is not a bad choise compare to the options we got but tells the story. India lacks All rounders. When it comes to choise Kapil Dev .

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 18, 2010, 8:14 GMT

    @smorz- no doubt vinoo was a quality all rounder but talking of vinoo mankads stats for consideration as all rounder at no 6 please look at them again- while he was invaluable in home test victories his away test bowling record was an average of 42 and strike rate of 117; in 52 ahmed was rated india's best bowler in england, gupte in windies 53 n pakistan 55-56 and amarnath as mankads equal in 46 england; 47-48 all indian bowlers failed to impress in oz; as a batsman played all positions but with unequal success- nearly 40 average at no 1 (all 5 tons and 4 of 6 50s as opener), averages below 20 at each of 3-6 and barely above 20 at no 7 in the batting order(1 50 each at no 7, no 8); hence i opt for kapil

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 18, 2010, 8:02 GMT

    @venkat- nissar was by concensus amongst those who saw him in england not only genuinely fast for at least 5 years he was considered perhaps the fastest in the world in his initial spell; srinath was sharp till his injury with odd genuinely fast spells; amar singh was brisk medium with the ability like bedser, tate n fazal too cut the old ball but was quicker than fazal and didn't depend on mats; if 2 pacers other than all rounder are a must i would go for nissar n amar singh; nissar, kapil and amar would be a quality seam attack; the 2 spinners- chandra in all cases, 2nd gupte if based on away test performances only (pras in place of gupte down under); gupte (short, slow, flight etc) and chandra (brisk, tall, bounce but more turn than kumble) were different types of leggies; if 3 spinners n 2 seamers including kapil i would opt, for the variety, for chandra, bedi n pras.

  • POSTED BY US_Indian on | August 18, 2010, 6:20 GMT

    If Manoj prabhakar can be called an allrounder then i would say, anil kumble, mohinder amarnath, robin singh, ravi shashtri, even venkat and bedi can be called allrounders and many more can be included, are these guys insane or what, jokers.

    Two notable definite omissions are S..Abid Ali and Saleem Durrani, may be they might not make it to the eleven but they were genuine allrounders, even Sir Garfield Sobers will vouch for them remember Australia and West Indies when Nari Contractor was flat on the pitch bleeding. Another joke I saw Siddhu in the openers slot. When Srikanth, S.Mushtaq Ali, Anshuman Gaekwad, Ashok Mankad , Chetan Chauhan, Farrokh Engineer or even for that matter Ravi Shastri, S.Abid Ali or Eknath Solkar could not make it to the list how this guy who cant even face proper pace bowling made it to the list, this shows who ever are picking the players to the all times greats list don't even possess a common cricket sense, just like our bunch of indian selectors.

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 18, 2010, 6:12 GMT

    ps- the classic test for a quality genuine allrounder is that the batting average should be higher than the bowling average; in addition sufficient matches played as an allrounder for stats not to be distorted, bowling average below 30,batting above 30; averages (n bowling strike rates) should ideally be in a fairly close range whether home or away; the only candidate who comes close to this is kapil dev. in other countries there have been more cricketers who actually fulfilled these norms;

  • POSTED BY on | August 18, 2010, 5:24 GMT

    Adeep; On the contrary I do believe that between Mohd. Nissar, Amar Singh and Javagal Srinath we did have genuine pace. I still remember Srinath at the WACA when he first burst onto the scene with scorcher to york Lara and Arthurton. That was awesome. About the legend of Nissar and Amar Singh, not much is known but I read that they did get even the Don to sit up and take notice. Maybe if Raj Bhai was alive the selection panel would be greatly enhanced.

  • POSTED BY Subhasis10 on | August 18, 2010, 5:02 GMT

    Where is Sandip Patil, i thought he is also a good all rounder!!??

  • POSTED BY SINha1 on | August 18, 2010, 5:02 GMT

    One allroundet spot was wrong thinking. either Kapil Dev should be included in pace bowling department or provide with 2 spots here. You just can't keep Vinoo Markad out from final 11.And KD is best pace bowler India ever produced.Ravi Shastri deserved a mention. India never had real allrounders apart from these two.But we had plenty of batsmen who could turn their arm, and bowler who played few shots.So the best combination should be1 Gavaskar 2 Sehwag 3 Dravid 4 Tendulkar 5 Hazare 6 Mankad 7 Kapil 8 Engineer 9 Kumble 10 Srinath/Zaheer 11 Chandrasekhar

  • POSTED BY on | August 18, 2010, 3:36 GMT

    MY choice is Non other than kapil dev

  • POSTED BY smorz on | August 18, 2010, 3:17 GMT

    You guys who say Kapil Dev, check out the stats behind this Vinuu Mankand. You guys would take back your votes in an instant.

  • POSTED BY harshalb on | August 18, 2010, 3:10 GMT

    Those doubting the quality of Indian XI have obviously started following cricket late. They have not heard of Amar Singh, Gupte and Chandrasekhar, fixated as they are Kapil and later generation spinners like Kumble.

    India's Subhash Gupte and not Shane Warne is the greatest leg-spinner ever to take the field believes legendary West Indian all-rounder Gary Sobers.

    "Warne's a great bowler but the best leg-spinner I've ever seen is still (Subhash) Gupte. He could do things that I still don't believe all these years later," Sobers told the Australian. "

    Incidentally, according to Sobers who is regarded by most as the best cricketer of all time, the best batsman he saw in his life time is Gavaskar...not anyone else.

    Amar Singh played seven tests, took 5 wickets twice and total 28 with best of 7/86. He also had 5 centuries and 18 fifties in first class cricket.

  • POSTED BY __PK on | August 18, 2010, 3:02 GMT

    Is there actually any consideration needed here? This must be the easiest decision of all the Nations' All-time XII's. Maybe the WI allrounder, the NZ spinner, the Australian No 3 or the Indian No 4...

  • POSTED BY on | August 18, 2010, 2:16 GMT

    Wat about Azharuddin??????

  • POSTED BY ATrueLegend on | August 18, 2010, 0:56 GMT

    @VVedsen, well said. I have more for @muhabar First Asian team to win world cup. Infact, second only to West Indies. First Asian country to win Benson and hedges cup in Australia First Asian country to win series in WI, infact 2 times. Pakistan or Srilanka never won a series in WI. Broke the winning streak of Australia in test two times. First Asia cup winner. Five time Asia cup winner, second is SL winning it 4 times, Pak won only once. First t20 world cup winner. Champions trophy winner along with Srilanka. Pak never won champions trophy. It looks really weak by the standard of accomplishment. Ha ha ha

  • POSTED BY Antir on | August 18, 2010, 0:22 GMT

    From his smile to his scowl Kapil Dev is the only choice to make this team come alive. What remember most about him, on the field, is the combination of joy and competition in everything cricket. A fantastic cricketer with a big bad smile.

    The next bit is going to be hard because what is needed is a balanced bowling attack with the variety India needs to make up for its lack of pace.

  • POSTED BY on | August 18, 2010, 0:18 GMT

    Kapil Dev is the Only Allrounder ever India has Produced !!! i would say Vinoo Mankad is the one who can come after Kapil.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 23:08 GMT

    (Kapil Dev) he once hit four sixes in a row to avert the follow-on.

    DID HE MISS ANY BALLS IN BETWEEN BECAUSE CRICINFO RECORDS DONT SHOW THIS. ONLY SHOWING AFRIDI

  • POSTED BY SnowSnake on | August 17, 2010, 23:01 GMT

    I think it is easy to define an all rounder. Use following rule: Batting average/innings >30 runs and bowling average/wicket <30 runs. Once you use this rule, it becomes very easy to define an all rounder without any disclaimer. Of course the person must also play a minimum of 20 tests before this rule is applied.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 22:01 GMT

    Can we have two? Will avoid having the embarrassment that is Bishen Singh Bedi from the team then.

  • POSTED BY maheshkrc on | August 17, 2010, 21:29 GMT

    Are you kidding?You included Manoj Prabhakar in the lis??Are you sure?.Horrible choice.Well,for all rounder the answrer is verysSimple,you cant have any body other than Kapil.But request to the Jury is putting Prabhakar ahead of Amarnath is way out of head.In that case as somebody said Anil Kumble or Sachin tendulkar can come.Cmon, Jury be practical in thinking and putting the choices.For selcting Indian team XI the difficult choice is only middle order and spinners as we have lot of greats there.Tough choices and some greats will be missed out.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 21:26 GMT

    It's no brainer, Kapil Dev. I don't understand how did Manoj Prabhakar sneak in and not Ravi Shastri. I feel Shastri was a definitely a better allrounder that Prabhakar. His stats say that, his preformances say that and his value to the team says that. Manoj may stand out more only because there was no other bowler to open with Kapil Dev; whereas there were plenty of spin options when Shastri played, yet he made it to 80 tests with 3000+ runs and 150+ wickets!! MENTION SHASTRI!!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 20:56 GMT

    What about Rahul Dravid? He kept wicket in ODI for 4 years...

  • POSTED BY Peter_Walters on | August 17, 2010, 20:42 GMT

    India's best allrounder is KIRTI AZAD. You only have to switch his batting and bowling averages.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 20:36 GMT

    All time India XI will have the same problem faced over the years by the Indian sides -lack of quality pacers

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 20:20 GMT

    Kapil Dev is an obvious choice. But two people who were also quite useful as all-rounders might have been Jimmy Amarnath (remember 1983?) and Abid Ali.

  • POSTED BY AhmadSaleem on | August 17, 2010, 20:15 GMT

    @ Mubashar Hassan. it would have weakest bowling line up but their batting looks quite good.

  • POSTED BY anreddy9 on | August 17, 2010, 20:14 GMT

    Oh..this one is a dummy. It has got be Kapil hands down!! No questions about it. He is the best in the world, leave alone Indian Team

  • POSTED BY rafiq_qc on | August 17, 2010, 20:13 GMT

    Why not telling someone yet abt Azharuddin? Is he out of the line? What a cricketer he was! Anyway, Bhajji,Zak definitely deserve in the frontline & modern cricket as well.

  • POSTED BY Shripathi on | August 17, 2010, 19:46 GMT

    Again, the selection process is flawed. It is governed by a predisposed set of choices as to one all-rounder, x pacers, y middle order bats etc.

    The team is Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Hazare, Vinoo Mankad, Kapil Dev, Kirmani, Kumble, Srinath and Zaheer Khan.

    Note that the forced choice of one all-rounder would have eliminated Vinoo Mankad, and then we would have a more lopsided team.

    Including Vinoo Mankad allows us to have a spinner and additional batting, whereas, requiring only one to be be picked forces him out.

    And later, you cannot include him as a spinner since Bedi was a better left-arm spinner.

    The team needs to be picked as a whole, not by some contrived assignments of roles.

    the team listed above has three pacers, two spinners, and two part-timers in Sehwag and Hazare.

    It also five specialist bats, and more than decent backups in Kapil and Vinoo Mankad.

  • POSTED BY Mahesh_AV on | August 17, 2010, 19:40 GMT

    If Manoj Prabhakar can be added to the all-rounders' list, you should also add Ravi Shastri, Harbhajan Singh, Saurav Ganguly, Mohinder Amarnath, Sehwag, Yuvraj Singh and Anil Kumble (he also scored a test century). And, if all-rounder means having 2 skills, you should also include M.S.Dhoni, Dinesh Kartik, Rahul Dravid (he also kept wickets in ODIs), Eknath Solkar (an excellent fielder).

  • POSTED BY VVedsen on | August 17, 2010, 19:29 GMT

    @muhabar: You make me laugh. Weakest bowling and still the no. 1. The only Asian test team to win at Perth, the first Asian team to hit ICC no. 1 position.

    On the selection side, both Kaps and Mankad would make the 11. They need to. They provide all possible options, batting, bowling. Mankad played from no. 1 to 11. Even thoughts of comparing Shastri to him would be insulting to the great Vinoo. So given that we may have Sunny Sehwag Dravid Sachin Laxman Kaps Mankad and Dhoni add themselves to it. We are now left with 3 more position,

  • POSTED BY superkid007 on | August 17, 2010, 18:20 GMT

    its sooo easy--------------always kapil

  • POSTED BY Muksforyou on | August 17, 2010, 17:59 GMT

    India has not produced a good all rounder after Kapil dev. Even then, Kapil was more a bowler who could bat decently rather than someone like Kallis or Sobers who could have been selected in the team purely on the basis of their bowling or Batting alone. Looking at the way he's giving the team crucial breakthroughs,Sehwag can turn into a good all-rounder nevertheless.

  • POSTED BY The_Chosen_One on | August 17, 2010, 17:04 GMT

    If Manoj Prabhakar can make the list why not Irfan Pathan, Ajit Agarkar

  • POSTED BY The_Chosen_One on | August 17, 2010, 17:02 GMT

    The only XI Prabhakar cam make it is All Time Match Fixing XI :) Other players will be Azharuddin, Nayan Mongia, Jadeja, Hansie Cronje, Mark Waugh, Morris Odumbe and remaining can be any Pakistani players.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    @vedanthy2: 162 wickets in 44 tests, with 8/52 and 13/131 as best innings and match bowling, you regard Mankad as a bowler who could bat? Mankad was one of the few great test genuine all-rounders in the world, with Bothan, Sobers, Kallis. Kapil was a great bowler who could score runs. That's not an all-rounder. Sachin took a lot of ODI wickets, now call him an all-rounder, will you?

  • POSTED BY The_Chosen_One on | August 17, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    The only all time XI, Prabhakar can make all time match fixing XI :) Here are some options: Azharuddin, Nayan Mongia, Hansie Cronje, Mark Waugh, Morris Odumbe and any 5 players from Pakistan :D

  • POSTED BY ATrueLegend on | August 17, 2010, 16:51 GMT

    Surprisingly, Ravi Shastri, Mohinder Amarnath and Robin singh are not in list.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 16:35 GMT

    Really a shame india has ever produced only one genuine all rounder kapil and if he is selected as allrounder then people like zaheer ,prasad and srinath will make as fast bowlers in the all time great india 11.I think that team is weakest of all the main teams in the world .

  • POSTED BY SudhirBang on | August 17, 2010, 16:04 GMT

    Wonder y Ravi Shastri has not been included in two categories?Opening Batsmen & also spinning/all rounder..He was a good leader too & quite useful,could be used as a floater too in the line up.Ideally he would be the 12th man & drafted in case of a injury to any other selected XI.

    Letz see if he cld get a nod amongst the long llist of bowlers likely to come up as spinning /fast bowling options...

  • POSTED BY rson on | August 17, 2010, 15:52 GMT

    Good options although cases could obviously been made for spinning all-rounders Shastri,Salim Durani and Bapu Nadkarni.However one would hope that limiting the team to one all-rounder does not lead to Mankad's exclousion.Kapil Dev is certainly India's best-ever paceman and his inclusion among the pacemen could have left a clear path for Mankad as an all-rounder.As with New Zealand and South Africa India should not be restricted to one all-rounder.

  • POSTED BY Bamarolls on | August 17, 2010, 15:51 GMT

    @POWERSLAVE, I second your comments. My pick of Kapil has many facets - emotional, brilliance, doggedness, longivity, and pure numbers. 2 - 3 specific instances: He converted tears of sorrow to tears of Joy in ONE WC knock of more than a BILLION people in a matter of minutes. His 89 at Lords, +3 wickets in a losing effort. DA world cup. Now, Vinoo Mankad was the world standard bearer for all rounders for long time. He must be on my team. As for other mentions, RJS exclusion from the list is a disgrace. IMHO, Ghavri, Binny and Durrani needed to be mentioned also.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | August 17, 2010, 15:33 GMT

    Suresh, Good selection but omitted some other all rounders from your list. At one time India had glut of all rounders who had to share their bowling with well established bowlers yet they made the team because of their talent. Chandu Borde was a fantastic cricketer who had to share the role with Chandra shekhar's excellent leg spinners. Durani, Nadkarni and Rusi Surti are other top class all rounders who fell short of greatness because they were sharing the bowling with each other or with established bowlers. Nevertheless they all did very well to compete with the 4 named all rounders although Prabhaker is not in the same class. Two undoubtedly great all rounders are Kapil Dev & Vinoo Mankad who were magnificient and rose to the occasion in both batting or bowling when the occasion demanded. Phadkar, Borde & Nadkarni are marginally behind these 2. These all rounders were excellent fielders too either close infield or in the outfield - a lesson for the modern Indian cricketers..

  • POSTED BY cricketandmore on | August 17, 2010, 15:32 GMT

    I am surprised that Mohinder Amarnath is invariably left out of the Indian all rounders list. His batting may be boring to watch and his medium pace is not world class but I guess he was invaluable in both the depatrtments during all his stints with the Indian team

  • POSTED BY manasvi_lingam on | August 17, 2010, 15:04 GMT

    Ahead of Dattu Phadkar and Manoj Prabhakar, the following people should have been nominated: 1) Ravi Shastri: His bowling was ordinary but his batting average is higher than anyone on the list. 2) Salim Durrani: Possessed great talent but failed to use it. Yet, he has decent stats with bat and ball. 3) Bapu Nadkarni: Speaking statistically, Nadkarni's stats are very good. Unlike Prabhakar and Phadkar who averaged in the high 30s, he averages less than 30 with the ball. His batting avg is also above 25. Irfan Pathan's stats are pretty good but sadly he's declined.

    Who would it be? Mankad in my opinion. Look at his stats in wins (and he played in a very weak team) Bat avg> 100 and Bowling avg of around 13 That shows just how crucial he was when India won. Besides, Kapil can be selected as a pacer alone. The second seamer can be Nissar. Since Mankad is a left arm spinner, we can select an off-spinner (Prasanna/Ghulam Ahmed/Bhajji) and a leggie (Kumble/Chandra/Gupte)

  • POSTED BY HarishVS on | August 17, 2010, 14:51 GMT

    This is straight forward. There can't be none other than Kapil Dev in an All Time Great India XI as an allrounder at No.7. If there are two places in the XI, then Vinoo Mankad can join. I have not watched him live, but statistics and stories speak up. Otherwise, the above list is just for namesake and make up the numbers.

  • POSTED BY AhmadSaleem on | August 17, 2010, 14:35 GMT

    again an easy pick .... Kapil Dev

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 14:34 GMT

    My all time great eleven would be Sunil gavaskar, Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, Vijay Hazare, Budhi Kunderan, Vinoo Mankad, Kapil Dev, Nissar, Srinath and Chandrashekhar. A very strong batting line up, more than matching all other elevens. Two allroundes, at par with the best and the bowling is the only weakness in comparision.I have picked up Kunderan for his batting abilities.

  • POSTED BY ravi_hari on | August 17, 2010, 14:33 GMT

    There is no doubt about naming Kapil Dev for the All rounder's spot. However, it is truely unjustified to name only one as Kapil is an extraordinary talent and Vinoo Mankad does not fall behind. Being a pacer clinches the issue for Kapil as on dead Indian wickets if someone can take more than 200 test wickets he has to be very good. He is a true allrounder as he is India's best fast bowler, late order batsman, terrific fielder and a the only captain to have won a world cup for us. Hari Ravi

  • POSTED BY prashant.vaidya on | August 17, 2010, 14:28 GMT

    Where are Mohinder Amarnath & Ravi Shastri?

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 14:23 GMT

    Kapil Dev and Vinoo Mankad would be the ideal choice.. However Ravi Shashtri's name is missing from the list is more than an enigma..

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 14:16 GMT

    Typos, would be a minority, in saying that Gavaskar would not make his team...Sunny would the world team my dear,,,I dont know where u followed cricket, Gavaskar didnt make runs against the West Indies MEDIUM PACERS, he made runs against the best faster bowlers of his time,,like Roberts, Holding and Garner of the West Indies, Imran of Pakistan, Sir Richard Hadlee of New Zealand, Lillie and Thomson of Australia etc...If they were medium pacers who is a fast bowler???? To go back to the article of allrounder...I agree with most people saying, Mankad and Kapil should both be chosen....Cheers

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 14:08 GMT

    no Ravi Shastri? How rude CI ?

  • POSTED BY Percy_Fender on | August 17, 2010, 13:32 GMT

    I will have both Vinoo Mankad and Kapil Dev in the team. It is not necessary that we should go by the description of an all rounder or a specialist for selecting a fictional XI. In fact there is no reason not to include even a third one if his skill in one particular discipline is of such a high order that he simply cannot be left out. I would include Ladhabhai Amarsingh as the third all rounder in the side. Kapil and Amarsingh--- who came of the wicket like the crack of doom as per one of the greatest batsmen of all time Wally Hammond, and who was hailed as the greatest fast bowler in the world of his time by Sir Len Hutton--- would open the bowling.I feel we should not restrict the team to just one allrounder in the side. With due respect to Bedi, I think Mankad was a better bowler, considering the batsmen he bowled to and the speed at which he got to the all rounder's double of 1000 runs and 100 wickets.Its relevance can be seen in that Kapil got to this double in 26 matches.

  • POSTED BY Navillus on | August 17, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    To be fair Ravi Shastri - and I abhorred the cricketer, used to pray for the moment he would be dismissed, thought him the most boring batsman and bowler of all time - should have in this case made the list. I also don't grudge Prabhakar, who was actually brilliant in his day, and for a while 90-94 was one of the best in business. I also think Durrani, Nadkarni, Chandu Borde should have got mentions. Indian cricket is quite crazy and topsy turvy and these people characterised the soul of the nation during their time.I hope Amar Singh gets into the nominations as a pacebowler. He was a real great allrounder as well. I wonder if Indian XI will end up with 3 pace bowlers. But Nissar, Amar Singh and Kapil won't be bad. I am also interested to see if Palwankar Baloo gets a mention as a spinner of note. Before test playing days, but probably the first great spinner of the country. The entire exercise is interesting, if somewhat poorly implemented ... but that is expected in media corp.

  • POSTED BY montys_muse on | August 17, 2010, 13:16 GMT

    Well, after reading a few comments about India's fast bowling options I decided to check out Amar Singh's profile here on Cricinfo. I would now hope that he would be included in the nominations atleast. He seemed to have been a terrific fast bowlerand his batting seemed to be pretty decent as well. He could be slotted in at no.7 or no.8 in the All-time list.

  • POSTED BY Bryan999 on | August 17, 2010, 13:06 GMT

    Ravi Shastri, with 11 hundreds(ave 35.79) and 151 wkts(ave 40.96) should have been atleast in the 'LIST' alongside Manoj Prabhakar, with 1 hundred(ave 32.65) and 96wkts(ave37.30). May be the selectors were taking averages less than 40 for bowling and more than 30 for batting to test both the skills!!

  • POSTED BY Bryan999 on | August 17, 2010, 12:55 GMT

    Hey India Jury! What combination are you looking for?? Every country has gone with their strengths... South Africa has '2allrounders+2pace+1spin' in their XI(with 5bat+1WK)...., SriLanka has '3pace+2spin and NO allrounder' in their XI(with 5bat+1WK)...., Australia has '1allrounder+2pace+2spin(both leggies)' in their XI(with 5bat+1wk)..... and the rest; England, WestIndies, Pakistan, NewZealand have opted for '1allrounder+3pace+1spin' in their XI(with 5bat+1WK)..... Is INDIA going with 1allrounder,2pace,2spin or 1allrounder,1pace,3spin?..... As compared to bowlers of other teams whose averages are either below 20 or early 20's, Indian bowlers have either on just below 30 or early 30's... India's strength,no doubt, is Batting. It should have gone with 6batsman+1WK+4Bowlers(any best combination) or 5batsman+2allrounders+1wk+3Bowlers(any best combination).... But its already been 5batsmen+1allrounder, it will be 4bowlers(What combo???) along with wicketkeeper'batsman'(?)... Just a thought!

  • POSTED BY dineshp97 on | August 17, 2010, 12:51 GMT

    KAPIL DEV. No comments needed.

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 17, 2010, 12:50 GMT

    bedi was certainly the better sla. gupte also had a good away record but based really on only 3 tours. 2 pace n 3 spin would mean nissar (fast, hit the deck, brought it in) with kapil (brisk medium, away swing, kiss the turf) chandra, pras and bedi at home and down under; perhaps amar singh in place of pras in england n africa and gupte in place of pras in windies and pakistan? many people may like to include mankad to allow for kiri at no 8, but given mankads poor batting from 3-6 or even 7 this wouldn't be a gain; thats why the need for engineer as wk at no 6. i would have also rated surti ahead of prabhakar as a contendor;

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 12:46 GMT

    Shastri isn't one of the contenders in the list - is Cricinfo unable to distinguish cricketing performance from their hang ups about his IPL role?

  • POSTED BY vmanbalaji on | August 17, 2010, 12:40 GMT

    @hattrick_thug, I am sorry you feel Kapil is not a walk-in in the pacer category. you must have not watched him bowl, how Gordon / Desmond/ Viv found him and his outswingers tough. If you account for dropped catched in slip cardon, Kapil would have walked away with more scalps than what he got, leave alone, the placid flat pancake wickets in sub-continent. He underbowled himself in 1996 series at England when we won 2 test matches. You either must not be Indian or not have been in the era he bowled. Seeing cricket from 1975, I am 68 born and had decent intellect to play and follow the game since 7 / 8 years old, I feel Kapil would walk in any cricket side in the world with his bowling exploits alone, including his 9/83 on losing cause against WI and bowling to defend 1st innings total of 75 at Ahmedabad. Sorry, folk, in any other country, your post is blasphemous, then SRT and SMG would not be a walk in All-time XI

  • POSTED BY usman_nile1994 on | August 17, 2010, 12:38 GMT

    Where is Irfan Pathan ? He should also be on the list as his stats are better than all except Kapil Dev. But finally i would pick Kapil Dev. I would like to pick 5 batsman 1 wicket keeper(dhoni) 1 all rounder(kapil dev) 2 fast bowlers(amar singh and mohd nissar) and 2 spinners (kumble and bedi)

  • POSTED BY RogerC on | August 17, 2010, 12:16 GMT

    Salim Durani? Abid Ali? Ravi Shastri? Karsan Ghavri? Madan Lal? Aren't some of these better than Manoj Prabhakar or Phadkar?

  • POSTED BY arvin on | August 17, 2010, 12:03 GMT

    what no ravi shastri in the list... with over 150 wickts and 3000 runs in both forms of game...

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 12:00 GMT

    I honestly think with 3 middle order batsmen, two all-rounders should be chosen. And where is Ravi Shastri?

  • POSTED BY sneeky55 on | August 17, 2010, 11:27 GMT

    My india XI:

    V Sehwag, Sunil Gavaskar, Rahul Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Ganguly/Hazare/Azharuddin, Dhoni, Kapil, Kumble, J Srinath/Zak, Bedi/Chandrashekar

    or identical except after lax we have mankad or Kapil.

    if mankad same bowlers,

    if kapil add extra spinner

  • POSTED BY sachin150 on | August 17, 2010, 11:03 GMT

    My team would have the following in the 6th to 11th position

    6. Vinoo Mankad : Equally good at both batting and bowling 7. Dhoni :Decent keeper and one of the best keeper-batsmen 8. Kapil Dev : India's best all rounder 9.M Nissar : India's most lethal fast bowler 10.Srinath/Amar Singh/3rd Spinner if needed 11. Kumble : He takes the spinner spot

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 10:48 GMT

    obvious choice would be kapil dev. but two all rounders would be good. vinoo mankad was also an good choice.

  • POSTED BY peterhrt on | August 17, 2010, 10:34 GMT

    With India's All-Time XI, picking the all-rounder(s) before the bowlers is likely to lead to a flawed selection. Kapil Dev is an automatic bowling choice and Mankad will probably be selected as well, which would be a mistake. Given the wide discrepancy between India's home and away form, it is essential to choose bowlers who can attack successfully on good pitches. The Indian spinners best equipped, and with the most impressive track record, on true surfaces around the world are Bedi and Chandra. Mankad's wickets in both Australia and the Caribbean cost over fifty apiece. His inclusion would mean no place for Bedi, who was in a different class as a left-arm spinner despite receiving surprisingly little support from readers so far. With Kumble's home form also likely to preclude the wrist spin of Chandra, India's all-time spinners abroad could be reduced to keeping the runs down, which would be a travesty. Adding off-spinner Prasanna might help in Australasia, but not elsewhere.

  • POSTED BY rnarayan on | August 17, 2010, 10:28 GMT

    Agree with Wally336. I'd play two. Kapil with the new ball batting at 7 and Mankad as my left arm spinner batting at 6.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 10:23 GMT

    I'll pick Mankad....Kapil will definitely play as a seamer.....

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 10:12 GMT

    Why is Ravi Shastri not in that list? I would have him ahead of Prabhakar & Phadkar

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 10:11 GMT

    The sad fact about Indian cricket is that we did not produce an allrounder even 50 % of Kapil's caliber.. and the story ends here

  • POSTED BY trepuR on | August 17, 2010, 9:48 GMT

    I must say that Cricinfo has made a bit of a blunder here, I would say that Kapil is the best all rounder, nowthe problem is that, will Kapil also be included in the team list for all-rounder. Voting on the combinations available would have been a good idea, as would it have been for the WI XI on whether or not to have 4 quicks (so, nice oneJayant Ameta). My prefered combination for the India XI would be five batsmen, a wicket-keeper, an all rounder (Kapil), ONE quick and THREE spinners. Cricinfo have made a big blunder with the last two teams voting on combinations would have made for a much more accurate representation of what Cricinfo readers believe.

  • POSTED BY lucyferr on | August 17, 2010, 9:37 GMT

    Why does India have so few allrounders compared to other teams?

  • POSTED BY TheGecko on | August 17, 2010, 9:28 GMT

    The system followed by cricinfo is totally flawed.. Why is it that only 1 allrounder is to be chosen? What is the compulsion? The best team should be chosen irrespective of such silly restrictions. So I'm being forced to chose Mankad cos Kapil could survive in any team as just a bowler. But it'll be a shame to chose Kapil as only a bowler and likewise it'll be a shame to neglect Mankad. What a mess!

  • POSTED BY typos on | August 17, 2010, 9:08 GMT

    why isn't Tendulkar on the list: he could bat of course and bowl legspin, offspin or even medium pace. i think the only thing that tendulkar couldn't do is wicketkeep or maybe he could. in my team he would bat in any position,open the bowling and bowl spin as required. the only other players i would need on my team would be kaipl to share the new ball and dhoni to keep...gavaskar does not make my side since he only made runs against windies medium pacers or the foursome attack on the flat pitches trinidad and india.

  • POSTED BY hattrick_thug on | August 17, 2010, 9:05 GMT

    Kapil is not a walk-in in the pacer category. Nissar and Amar Singh were apparently lethal, with Wally Hammond (?) saying Amar Singh's deliveries came in like "a crack of doom". He can have the allrounder spot, deservedly. The bowlers category is a rich cupboard, but unfortunately all in the past.

  • POSTED BY Sydney66 on | August 17, 2010, 9:04 GMT

    Since India's bowling attack is weak when compared to the likes of Australia or the West Indies it really needs the added depth of more bowling options. Hence, 2 all-rounders are required with mankad batting a number 6 and Dev batting at number 7. The selection system of Cricinfo is therefore flawed.

  • POSTED BY Daveptee on | August 17, 2010, 9:00 GMT

    Shastri was just simply plain lucky to have played as much international cricket as he did ! Being from Mumbai really helped,especially in those days with people like Gavaskar and Vengsarkar backing him.No wonder he retired soon after he realized his backers were gone! He had absolutely no bite in his bowling.....was a boring strokeless batsman....pretty average fielder with a playboy image, his non existent cricketing mind a media creation.Still bores us with his commentary ! I WOULD CONSIDER TENDULKAR AND SEHWAG BETTER ALL ROUNDERS THAN SHASTRI!

    I dont recall Shastri's coming up with a match winning performance in any of the 80 odd test matches that he played(or even single handedly winning a ODI ) As far as the Champion of Champions title in 1985 was concerned (the sole feather in his cap) he happened to play well for a team that was exceptional in the tournament and dominating other teams.In fact,Kapil's all round performance was almost as good in the tournament!

  • POSTED BY Paresh.K on | August 17, 2010, 8:54 GMT

    You put all the all-rounders ever played for India in one basket of a weighing balance, and in the other basket you put Kapli paaji. Sir kapil out weighs them by an unknown quantity of weight.

    In the history of Indian cricket Kapil Dev is the one and only all-rounder period.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 8:47 GMT

    I wish to see both Kapil and Mankad in the final XI. So here, I am gonna pick Mankad 'cos Kapil going to be in the fast bowlers list.

  • POSTED BY amit1807kuwait on | August 17, 2010, 8:29 GMT

    There is only one choice here - Kapil Dev! It does not matter whether Shastri appears in the contenders or not. Even if Shastri appeared (and he should have, above Dattu Phadkar and Prabhakar), Kapil would be the only all-rounder that can ever be chosen!!!

  • POSTED BY Rajesh. on | August 17, 2010, 8:07 GMT

    With due respect to others in this list, this is a no-contest. Kapil Dev, hands down !!

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 7:47 GMT

    Manoj Prabhakar is the most underated All-rounder in Indian cricket...1 bad match, Jay surya smashing n he was dropped, n he retired, hurt by Azhar (a big fan). Aggressive, India's best reverse swinger...to those who dont accept, name me who does well...Agarkar comes to my mind..in his early peak time...anyway, 1 slot - No prizes for guessing Kapil...n ppl MPrabhakar is widely believed as poor man's Kapil...n tats exactly wat he is! (Poor man's something means, for those who may take a dig at me,second best)

  • POSTED BY wally336 on | August 17, 2010, 7:40 GMT

    How cm Manoj Prabhakar featues among the nominees when Ravi Shastri is missing?? My choice will obviously be Vinoo Mankad,as i blv Kapil wl certainly be there among the nominees for the pacers

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 7:36 GMT

    Vinoo Mankad has been the greatest alrounder that India has produced.He completed a Double in 1946 tour of England, never missed a match due to injury and the Lord's saga of 1952 is something that we Indians shall always be rpoud of.His record opening partnership of 413 with Pankaj Roy is still an Indian record for Test matches.Vinoo Mankad had the fastest Test Double till Ian Bothan broke it by a whisker against depleted Test playing nations in karry packer days.

  • POSTED BY Nitold123 on | August 17, 2010, 7:28 GMT

    Looking at the options, i was just wondering what Irfan Pathan could have been or could still be at the end of his career. No doubt, his batting has blossomed with time but his bowling!! How could a 90 MPH bowler become a 75-80 MPH trundler? Where did his in-swing disappear? Should he have been given a bit more time? I also feel he does not have the confidence of Dhoni and for some strange reason, the selectors.I do hope he is picked on A Tours. Also, he should himself try out for a prolonged county stint. I still remember how Srinath's confidence was re-instated after a stint at Gloucestershire in 1995 (only 46 wickets in 18 test matches before that and 46 in his next 9). Clearly, if Pathan's bowling is sorted, he could well be a competitor to Kapil in a future Indian All time XI.I also feel Salim Durrani (the first cricketer to win an Arjuna Award) could have found a mention in the text at least. As of the nominations, Kapil wins hands down but I think Mankad will be the one chosen.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 7:23 GMT

    How does Ravi Shastri miss out and Dattu Phadkar and Manoj Prabhakar get a look in? Kapil Dev and Vinoo Mankad are obviously automatic selections for the all-rounder short-list.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 7:19 GMT

    An Indian all-time test XI is incomplete without both Kapil Dev and Vinoo Mankad. Mankad was a way better batsman then Kapil, one who would take a 5wic and score a 100 in the same test. I do not like the straight-jacket formula used by Cricinfo in picking a player as 'only' all rounder. Kail was a superb bowler who could bat. Mankad did both with equal grace, and even had the the highest opening partnership with Pankaj Roy until the South African pair went ahead. It should have been in this way - Mankad at No. 6, Keeper at No.7, Kapil at No. 8.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 7:03 GMT

    I am a huge fan of Vinoo Mankad, but Kapil's not only the best pace bowler India's produced, he was the world record holder for total Test wickets for a while. As one of the Big 4 of the 80s, he's as automatic an inclusion in this team as Gavaskar and Tendulkar IMHO.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 6:21 GMT

    why isnt shastri in the contention for a spot??when pak can pick up sohail why cant india atleast have shastri as atleast a nominee

  • POSTED BY Ajayvs on | August 17, 2010, 6:15 GMT

    I dont know why Ravi shastri has not even got a mention here.He has scored more than 6000 runs and taken over 150 wickets in tests. Kapil seems to be the obvious choice to me.

  • POSTED BY rohnish on | August 17, 2010, 6:12 GMT

    what about Ravi Shastri ?

  • POSTED BY ShilajitBava on | August 17, 2010, 6:05 GMT

    I agree too Kapil and Mankad both should b in XI!! Kapil can easily pass in as a fast bowler amongst our crop with Zak!

  • POSTED BY apyboutit on | August 17, 2010, 6:03 GMT

    After seeing this post, My XI is - Sunny, Viru, Rahul (wk), Sachin, VVS, Gundappa, Vinoo, Kapil, Kumble, Srinath, Chandrasekhar. XII-XVI th men - Vengsarkar, Gambhir, Prasanna, Dhoni and Solkar. Both Kapil and Vinoo need to be picked - who said there is a limit on the number of allrounders in a team?! I hope the teams are not chosen on the basis of the above choices alone. Some players like Kapil and Mankad deserve a place in the team as both bowlers and allrounders. So they should be in both lists. This allows picking a good strong team. Otherwise it will be like the meaningless pickings of the olden days by the "bunch of jokers" (ask Jimmy Amarnath!).

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 5:52 GMT

    I guess this is a kind of selection committee.. and remember what Jimmy Amarnath had to say about them? Well, how can anyone forget him?

  • POSTED BY rajnish.sinha on | August 17, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    how can one pick both kapil and vinoo mankad?? kapil can qualify just as a bowler too. it would be a shame if either vinoo or kapil misses indian all time 11.

  • POSTED BY srini701 on | August 17, 2010, 5:45 GMT

    Not fair to have just one slot. Both Vinoo Mankad and Kapil Dev deserve to be in any all-time Indian XI. period.

    Hopefully you will also include Kapil in the fast bowlers (medium fast in India's case) section. Please don't have a list that only inludes Srinath, Zaheer Khan, Venkatesh Prasad, Mohd Nissar, and Madan Lal and ask people to pick 2 from them :-(

    And how come Ravi Shastri is not in this short-list while MANOJ PRABHAKAR makes it? Even if he doesn't make the final cut, Shastri would probably be a more deserving player than Prabhakar.

  • POSTED BY buntyj on | August 17, 2010, 5:45 GMT

    kapil dev by some distance though again after double checking his stats i would prefer he bat at no 7 than no 6; i also doublechecked stats of vinoo mankad and confirmed that while he might find a place at no 8 his middle order stats are not good and his 5 test centuries and 4 of 6, 50s were as opener for which he wouldn't be considered in this all time india xi; his bowling record at home was good but an average of 42 away with a strike rate of 117 confirms an impression that his away bowling was far less effective than his home bowling and not upto all time xi standard; granted it may have been impacted by inadequate bowling support and poor fielding but then the all time india xi also doesnt have solkar, surti, subramanyam, abid etc as close in catchers and will likely be a poor fielding side;perhaps only kumble used turners better; i would ve picked durrani in place of prabhakar as a contendor and feel that lala amar singh couldve been in contention

  • POSTED BY Remus_Lupin on | August 17, 2010, 5:42 GMT

    This is regular gimmick by All-time XI nominations. They did same for NZ for choice of Hadlee. They nominated him as an all-rounder as well as a pure fast bowler (having known that his place is unquestionable on fast bowling credentials alone)just to fill in the nomination spots. Ultimately they chose John Reid for all-rounder spot & Hadlee, as inevitable was chosen as strike bowler. This time also, they are going to do same with Kapil...He will be there in Fast Bowling nominations also & eventually will get chosen for same...The best was would have been to leave out him from this category, rather than filling slots just for sake of filling & Vinoo Mankad would have been obvious choice of majority.No 2 opinions about Kapil's talent as all-rounder, but when his place is certain as a pacer then why force him to some other position, which will do nothing but cause a worthy all-rounder to lose the spot & an unworthy pacer getting in(Tell me any worth med/fast bowler than Kapil & Sreenath)

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 5:42 GMT

    Kapil should have been selected here but he can also make the team as a fast bowler so my choise is Vinoo Mankad. Kapil will be one of the pacemen where Indian falls short of quality fast bowlers.

  • POSTED BY Tendulkars_Tennis_Elbow on | August 17, 2010, 5:41 GMT

    Cricinfo & Suresh Menon - Do you guys even care? We dont need an introduction to who Kapil was! Kapil Dev was a man of a million talents and Suresh Menon talks about his fitness...what crap! put some heart into your writeups please..i beg you! we all know the statistical achievements of Kapil and Mankad... how about highlighting how much they meant to the team? Three of the candidates were absolute colossuses in their team and genuine pathbreakers. Look no further than how Samiuddin worships Imran, Wasim, Abbas et al in the Pak XI.

  • POSTED BY montys_muse on | August 17, 2010, 5:39 GMT

    Kapil, without doubt...unfortunate to leave Mankad out, but there's still room for 2 spinners....

  • POSTED BY sbansban on | August 17, 2010, 5:34 GMT

    Both Vinoo Mankad and Kapil Dev must be automatic selections in the Indian All-time XI - period.

  • POSTED BY SumeshCudHavBeenAnHarsha on | August 17, 2010, 5:33 GMT

    I don't know how come a name like Manoj Prabhakar creep into contention in All time X1???

  • POSTED BY VoiceOfIndia on | August 17, 2010, 5:33 GMT

    Kapil Dev is not only india's but one of the world's best allrounders. I have seen article and comments about degrading value of kapil. But the commitment, passion and emotion that he brought to the game is something very commendable. In the land of spinners it is very easy for a fast bowler to give up. But to play 131 test, being highest wicket taker of one time and scoring more than 5000 runs says something about this through gentlemen. It is also a good point to mention about his fitness and fielding. Enjoy his bowling and batting style to great extent.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 5:30 GMT

    India has had a problem with allrounders for a long, long time, which is reflected in this list. Kapil Dev is the easy choice, though Vinoo Mankad has a right to be feeling hard-done by. We could switch it up and pick Kapil as one of the two pacers in a four-man bowling attack (2 pace, 2 spin) and pick Mankad as an allrounder. India haven't produced too many world-class pacers as it is - my guess is that Kapil and Srinath would be the two pacers, and then there's the big competition for the two spin spots.

    Team: 1 Gavaskar 2 Sehwag 3 Dravid 4 Tendulkar 5 Azharuddin/Vengsarkar 6 Mankad 7 Kapil 8 Kirmani/Engineer 9 Kumble 10 Srinath 11 Prasanna/Chandrasekhar.

    Talk about a LONG batting line-up, which also plays in with the Indian think-tank's philosophy.

  • POSTED BY postsituationist on | August 17, 2010, 5:29 GMT

    I agree with some posters here: shift Kapil to the fast bowling section--who else would you pick: Zaheer, Srinath and Ghavari?!!! Mankad deserves a place in this XI.

  • POSTED BY Bhattu on | August 17, 2010, 5:27 GMT

    Manoj Prabhakar is on a short list for all time great Indian Allrounders???? Really??

  • POSTED BY Praveena on | August 17, 2010, 5:25 GMT

    Obviously Kapil should be selected to this position. He is the great great all rounder & swing baller India ever produced.Even he is the correct choice to captain sheet.

  • POSTED BY Nilesh_India on | August 17, 2010, 5:23 GMT

    It has to be Kapil Dev undoubtedly......But, I expected Ravi Shastri's names in the probables. How cud you neglect a man with 11 Test centuries and 151 Test wickets. I feel he deserved a nomination for sure

  • POSTED BY rovar on | August 17, 2010, 5:22 GMT

    Bit harsh on Vinoo Mankad. But it has to be Kapil, Kapil, Kapil & Kapil. He can walked into any other team purely on the merit of his batting or bowling.

  • POSTED BY prasun1519 on | August 17, 2010, 5:15 GMT

    The competition is between Mr. Mankad & Mr. Dev. But I prefer Mr. Dev as a genuine fast bowler who opens the with new ball. So for all rounder slot it should be Mr. Mankad. Also Mr. Mankad's selection will give us variation in bating and bowling as he was a genuine left arm spinner with a good average.

  • POSTED BY RajitD on | August 17, 2010, 5:15 GMT

    Kapil has to win hands down, but I do think Irfan Pathan deserves a mention here. He has got a test 100, and also 100 test wickets. Guess he's presently lost it, but that does not stop him from being better than Manoj Prabhakar for sure....

  • POSTED BY vedanthy2 on | August 17, 2010, 5:08 GMT

    Mr. Mankad is a Batting all -rounder!Kapil Dev is a bowling All- rounder!.Unlike type-set Fab's of today, Mankad can bat at any position bowl with brains on any wicket ,is a reasonably good fielder. What more does a team need from a Valuable player.As they say in racing , Mankad and Kapil are Bankers.Go select the other 9.Please start a category "Utility Players" and under that list:Ravi Shastry,Roger Binny,Manoj Prabhakar,Mohinder Amarnath and the like.Calling them all-rounders is a joke. The real all rounders are Visible.They are Sobers,Botham,Keith Miller,Mankad, Kapil Dev.From recent lot Kallis can come in here. Finally,Make Kapil the Captain!!!!

  • POSTED BY vish1036 on | August 17, 2010, 5:07 GMT

    hmm...i would say kapil dev but the bowlers and keeper will be more interesting...besides srinath no other indian bowler has what would deem legendary status..

  • POSTED BY Schuldiner on | August 17, 2010, 5:06 GMT

    How does Prabhakar come into the fray? Shastri would have been a better addition..

  • POSTED BY Tendulkars_Tennis_Elbow on | August 17, 2010, 5:03 GMT

    Sandeep Patil deserves an honourable mention. My vote goes to Mankad because he most often played a lone hand in glorious defeats. Kapil will walk into the team as a seamer anyway.

  • POSTED BY aruntheselector on | August 17, 2010, 5:00 GMT

    Depends upon the composition of the team.If the panel is selecting 3 specialist spinners, then Kapil Dev would take the spot of all-rounder.But if the panel wants to go with 2 specialist fast bowlers and 2 specialist spinners, then the all-rounder should be Mankad and Kapil Dev must make it into the team as a fast bowler.It must be kept in mind that spinners have played vital roles in Indian victories both at home and abroad.So more focus must be given to spin and thereby there is no need of a third fast bowle.So Kapil & Srinath should be the fast bowlers with Kumble & Prasanna as spinners.Mankad will play the role of 3rd spinner and if the panel wants 3 spinners, then the third spinner would be Chandrashekar and Kapil playing as an all-rounder.Under this situation Dhoni must be the keeper and must bat at 6 with Kapil at 7.If Mankad is in the 11,then Kirmani could be considered as the WK with Mankad at 6,Kapil at 7 and Kiri at 8.

  • POSTED BY Godfather007 on | August 17, 2010, 4:58 GMT

    Kapil Dev all the way.....no need of a debate here

  • POSTED BY AAN_GINA on | August 17, 2010, 4:53 GMT

    This is really a simple choice. Kapil Dev. However sometimes it does apall me to see the short sighted nature of Cricinfo articles. They mention Chandrasekhar as a 'claimed' all rounder, mention Roger Binny but no mention of people like Ravi Shastri who has over 4000 test runs with multiple centuries or Mohinder amarnath who was also a gutsy all rounder. These two cricketers should at least have been the nominees as a mark of respect to their contribution to Indian cricket. In fact I was quite expecting the two. These two should be there and Manoj Prabhakar omitted, he was never a true fast bowler neither a good batsman and later compromised himself by indulging in mud slinging at legends. I have no place for him in my list.

  • POSTED BY Vivek.Bhandari on | August 17, 2010, 4:44 GMT

    Kapil Dev leads the charge...but there are 2 things...why Ravi Shastri was not there in the nomination because he's a very competent if not talented all-rounder...then why do we have to follow a set pattern in selecting the XI...like W.Indies got a spinner even though everybody knows this is not where their strength lies...likewise India has to get an allrounder even though Kapil and Vinu Mankad can be selected in the Pacer/Spinner section

  • POSTED BY ns_krishnan on | August 17, 2010, 4:43 GMT

    Kapil hands down.,but, where is Raavi shastri ?

  • POSTED BY senthil_katrivel on | August 17, 2010, 4:41 GMT

    If Manoj Prabhakar was considered suitable enough to be included in this list, surely Ravi Shastri should have been included as well? Shastri played double the number of tests that Prabhakar played, bad a better batting average (with his average outside India being the same as that in India - not very common among Indian bastsmen; his best averages are against Australia, Pakistan and WI - the 3 best bowling attacks of his time; and he doubled up as an opening batsman on away series) and also served as the vice captain.

    Not that it matters as far the final choice goes, what with Kapil around (or with a choice between Kapil and Mankad)!

  • POSTED BY venky_singapore on | August 17, 2010, 4:35 GMT

    Surely Ravi Shastri deserves a mention ? Not too many people have made 3000+ test runs and taken 150+ wickets for India. Not to mention the 6-sixes feat, though in a local match.

  • POSTED BY asaduzzaman-khan on | August 17, 2010, 4:19 GMT

    While Kapil is there, is there any choice. However, Vinoo Mankad is very close to him. I saw Manoj to open both batting and bowling in a number of matches potentially. Where is Ravi Shastri? He deserved mention in the list. Robin Singh should also get a chance in short list.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 4:15 GMT

    On a turning track, i'll be tempted go for mankad instead of Kapil. Vinoo Mankad can bat bat from 1 to 11 (sources tell me he did). Otherwise its Kapil by far. Apart from good bowler and batsman , he was a brilliant fielder too.

  • POSTED BY dr_sachinfan_chennai on | August 17, 2010, 4:05 GMT

    Simple choice. But jury could have kept the Haryana Hurricane as a Fast bowling option so that another worthwhile allrounder in Vinoo Mankad gets into the team at No 6 so that balance of team remains good.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 3:58 GMT

    I think before the nominations for different positions, there should have been a poll for each team's playing combination. Now, its almost impossible to leave Mankad out. Because if Kapil is taken in the team as an allrounder, then 3 other quick bowlers other than Kapil would have to be selected in All-time Indian team! How can the All-time Indian team have just 1 genuine spinner and 3 fast bowlers + Kapil Dev.

  • POSTED BY Ven_M on | August 17, 2010, 3:53 GMT

    Is there a real question here? Who else.. but Kapil..!!

  • POSTED BY nlambda on | August 17, 2010, 3:50 GMT

    Well this one is a no brainer. Kapil's summary should have mentioned that he led India to WC triumph and has played the greatest ODI innings by an Indian. Guess the WK position will have more debate.

  • POSTED BY Shredderwoods on | August 17, 2010, 3:50 GMT

    Popular Choice would be Kapil Dev. Not much scope for discussion here.

  • POSTED BY sbansban on | August 17, 2010, 3:49 GMT

    Ravi Shastri didn't even merit a casual mention, eh?

  • POSTED BY Psyc_s on | August 17, 2010, 3:45 GMT

    In my opinion Kapil Dev is the best allrounder India have ever produced, he was a source of energy and inspiration for youth across Modern India, a Gentle man and more than anything he is our World Cup winning Captain. I don't Know about Mr. Dattu Phadkar & Mr. Vinoo Mankad.

  • POSTED BY roadkillz on | August 17, 2010, 3:45 GMT

    no competition to Kapil here....

  • POSTED BY 11Noobs on | August 17, 2010, 3:43 GMT

    Too easy, Mr Dev.........

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  • POSTED BY 11Noobs on | August 17, 2010, 3:43 GMT

    Too easy, Mr Dev.........

  • POSTED BY roadkillz on | August 17, 2010, 3:45 GMT

    no competition to Kapil here....

  • POSTED BY Psyc_s on | August 17, 2010, 3:45 GMT

    In my opinion Kapil Dev is the best allrounder India have ever produced, he was a source of energy and inspiration for youth across Modern India, a Gentle man and more than anything he is our World Cup winning Captain. I don't Know about Mr. Dattu Phadkar & Mr. Vinoo Mankad.

  • POSTED BY sbansban on | August 17, 2010, 3:49 GMT

    Ravi Shastri didn't even merit a casual mention, eh?

  • POSTED BY Shredderwoods on | August 17, 2010, 3:50 GMT

    Popular Choice would be Kapil Dev. Not much scope for discussion here.

  • POSTED BY nlambda on | August 17, 2010, 3:50 GMT

    Well this one is a no brainer. Kapil's summary should have mentioned that he led India to WC triumph and has played the greatest ODI innings by an Indian. Guess the WK position will have more debate.

  • POSTED BY Ven_M on | August 17, 2010, 3:53 GMT

    Is there a real question here? Who else.. but Kapil..!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 3:58 GMT

    I think before the nominations for different positions, there should have been a poll for each team's playing combination. Now, its almost impossible to leave Mankad out. Because if Kapil is taken in the team as an allrounder, then 3 other quick bowlers other than Kapil would have to be selected in All-time Indian team! How can the All-time Indian team have just 1 genuine spinner and 3 fast bowlers + Kapil Dev.

  • POSTED BY dr_sachinfan_chennai on | August 17, 2010, 4:05 GMT

    Simple choice. But jury could have kept the Haryana Hurricane as a Fast bowling option so that another worthwhile allrounder in Vinoo Mankad gets into the team at No 6 so that balance of team remains good.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2010, 4:15 GMT

    On a turning track, i'll be tempted go for mankad instead of Kapil. Vinoo Mankad can bat bat from 1 to 11 (sources tell me he did). Otherwise its Kapil by far. Apart from good bowler and batsman , he was a brilliant fielder too.