June 24, 2010

Live from the Warne-Waugh affair

Malcolm Conn
A look back at how the story of the involvement of two leading Australian players with bookmakers broke, 12 years ago
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There was a buoyant mood flowing through the breakfast room of the Pearl Continental in Rawalpindi. Australia had just won a Test in Pakistan for the first time since 1959, with Stuart MacGill claiming nine wickets in just his second Test as a replacement for the injured Shane Warne.

But there were two significant absentees from this bonhomie on October 6, 1998, Mark Waugh and the team's security officer Reg Dickason.

From the time Australia had arrived in Pakistan, hearings had been taking place in the Lahore High Court surrounding allegations of match-fixing among Pakistani players. Waugh and Warne, who was recuperating at home following shoulder surgery, had previously given long-distance evidence against Saleem Malik for alleged offers of six-figure sums to underperform on Australia's previous Pakistan tour in 1994. These allegations had been dismissed by Malik and an earlier Pakistan inquiry.

But now Australia were in Pakistan, here was the chance for Waugh to give evidence in person. Where was he if he wasn't at breakfast?

Suspicious, I knocked on the door of team manager Steve Bernard, a former NSW fast bowler.

"Where's Mark Waugh?" I said.

"I can't say," he replied.

The penny dropped as the anger rose. Waugh had been whisked off to Lahore at sunrise and Australia's touring media had not been told. This clandestine operation was supposed to include a secret hearing, but there is little secret in Pakistan or its cricket.

The office rang from Sydney to say they had received a wire story that Mark Waugh was going to appear at a special sitting of the match-fixing hearing, and soon photos began circulating around the world of Dickason leading Waugh into the hearing.

When they arrived chairs were being arranged in a row.

"What are they for?" Asked Dickason.

"The media," came the reply, before Dickason put a stop to that.

It seems about the only people who did not know Waugh was to appear before the hearing were the touring Australian media.

After the hearing we spoke by phone to Waugh, who had reiterated that Malik offered him a large sum of money to underperform during the one-day series in 1994.

On the opening day of the second Test in Peshawar explosive allegations surfaced from the match-fixing hearing, with Safraz Nawaz claiming that Dean Jones had retired early because of match-fixing. Back in Australia, a furious Jones screamed his innocence from the rooftops and threatened to sue anyone who made the claim. Later, evidence emerged from Hansie Cronje's bookie, Mukesh Gupta, that Jones had in fact rejected a $50,000 offer on the 1992 tour of Sri Lanka.

With the hearing hotting up, I abandoned the Test and caught the first plane to Lahore the next morning. Mark Taylor, unbeaten overnight on 112, was on the way to 334 not out, equalling Bradman's highest score by an Australian.

Taylor was still batting on the television above the carousel at Lahore airport as I waited for my luggage.

"I'm glad I'm not bowling on that," a voice beside me said, referring to the flat Peshawar pitch. It was Wasim Akram, who had been a late withdrawal the day before.

"What's wrong?" I said.

"I've got a cold. I don't feel very well," he replied.

I'd never heard of an Australian pulling out of a Test because of a cold.

"What do you think of these match-fixing allegations," I asked.

"Rubbish. They're driving some of the poor guys mad," he said, before picking up his bag and disappearing into the crowd.

During a break on one of the hearing days I was shown a letter by a member of the Pakistan Cricket Board's legal team. Folded at the top and the bottom it was impossible to see who it was from, but it accused Mark Waugh of being involved with a bookmaker. I was aghast

Justice Malik Mohammad Qayyum sat high at the back of the Lahore High Court, looking down on what had been a continuing procession of Pakistan's finest current and recent former cricketers. All said they had heard rumours about match-fixing, but none apparently knew anything about it.

A large and imposing figure in his flowing black robes, Justice Qayyum looked like he was sitting on a throne in this large and majestic colonial red brick building dating back to the 1860s.

As any players, past or present, appeared, numerous people gathered around with pen and paper.

"Gee, the journalists are standing close to the action," I thought, watching from the back of the court. As the player finished giving evidence they were mobbed. These were autograph hunters in the middle of Pakistan's most important court.

During a break on one of the hearing days I was shown a letter by a member of the Pakistan Cricket Board's legal team. Folded at the top and the bottom it was impossible to see who it was from, but it accused Mark Waugh of being involved with a bookmaker. I was aghast.

Mark Waugh involved in match-fixing? Never. I went through his one-day figures on the subcontinent. They were outstanding. There were no obvious or unexplained patterns of failure.

I put the allegation to team manager Bernard, who said he would speak to Waugh.

Bernard later told me: "He denies ever betting on cricket or being involved in match-fixing."

I was convinced this was just a cheap attempt to discredit Waugh for giving evidence against Saleem Malik, and wrote a strongly worded piece saying as much.

During the Peshawar Test, an Indian who had done some liaison work with the team on a tour of India earlier that year flew in to watch the match. Knowing the players and management, he had access to the dressing rooms. Such was the hysteria about match-fixing in Pakistan at the time that one newspaper claimed the Indian had been linked to an illegal bookmaker and had influenced Taylor to declare after the second day, thus not breaking Bradman's record. Taylor's claim of wanting to leave enough time to win the game was not considered a good enough reason.

I wrote a furious piece about that too.

Later in the tour, a colleague and I hired a driver in Lahore to do some sight-seeing. He took us to a small shop in Old Lahore to buy some film. The first ICC Knockout was being played in Bangladesh, from where we had just returned after Australia were beaten by India. The omnipresent voice of Tony Greig blared from a small television as men milled around on both sides of the counter. One had a ledger book. I assumed he was doing the accounts.

When we left the shop our driver burst out laughing.

"What's up?" I said.

"That was a bookie shop," he spluttered. "They were betting on the cricket."

"How many shops are there like that?" I asked.

"They're everywhere," he said, still laughing.

A month later, back in Australia, there was a gala launch for the Ashes series in Brisbane and most of the crowd, including some players and officials, had adjourned to Ian Healy's night club, Adrenalin. In a dark corner of the noisy bar during the early hours of the morning, I asked someone about the allegations of Mark Waugh being involved with a bookmaker.

"That's right," he said above the dance music.

"What!?"

He began to explain how Mark Waugh had been fined by the then Australian Cricket Board for taking money from an illegal bookmaker to provide information.

So it wasn't match-fixing after all but selling information.

Desperate to get as much detail as possible, I borrowed a barman's pen and grabbed some coasters, writing furiously on the back of them and sticking them in my shirt pocket. Next morning I could hardly read my own writing but I began making phone calls.

A couple of weeks and two Tests later I met then ACB chief executive Malcolm Speed with a list of questions. He said "No comment" to every one.

I rang Mark Waugh. He denied it then added: "Who told you?"

More phone calls and I had enough to write. I rang Speed and told him I was going to publish. He told me to wait.

An hour or two later he rang, explaining that not only had Mark Waugh been fined A$8000, the amount he had received for selling information to illegal bookmakers, but Shane Warne had been fined $10,000 for the same offence.

I was gobsmacked. Warne too.

So why didn't Waugh give that evidence at the match-fixing hearing in Lahore during the Pakistan tour?

"He wasn't asked the question," Speed replied.

What a disgrace to the game and affront to Pakistan.

A two-day Pakistan hearing was subsequently set up in Melbourne to grill Waugh and Warne. There was never any evidence they had been involved in match-fixing.

The fines had been imposed in a small airport room before the team flew out to the West Indies in 1995 by then ACB chairman Alan Crompton and chief executive Graham Halbish, who later announced the decision to a board meeting and instituted a cover-up.

All hell broke loose when the story broke. Waugh and Warne, who was still recovering from shoulder surgery, read prepared statements at a press conference before the third Test against England in Adelaide, saying they had been naive and stupid. They did not answer questions. That was left to Speed, who had not been with the ACB at the time of the cover-up.

Waugh was booed when he went out to bat at the Adelaide Oval and made just 7.

Little more than a year later I covered the Hansie Cronje match-fixing hearing in Cape Town.

Cricket was never the same again.

Malcolm Conn, chief cricket writer at the Australian, was presented with a Walkley Award, Australia's most prestigious media award, for his Waugh-Warne expose

Comments have now been closed for this article

  • BillyCC on June 27, 2010, 23:53 GMT

    JigneshPatel, maybe you feel strongly about the underarm incident, but it happened in a meaningless one-dayer and outside of a World Cup. One-dayers were only great marketing opportunities in those days and that incident fuelled all the marketing, the allegations and everything else you could think of. If the incident had happened in a Test match and clearly it was against the spirit of the game, then I would agree with you and both Chappells should have been sacked. And I can't believe you insist on the McGrath-Tendulkar incident. It looked out, so they appealed, and it was given out because the umpire thought it was out. I thought it was out, many people thought it was out. At the least, it was poor batting and he deserved to be given out. It was one of the few times that Tendulkar was all at sea, and in that series, McGrath and Warne had his measure.

  • Jaggadaaku on June 27, 2010, 20:31 GMT

    BillyCC, how could you say the Under-arm bowling incident was the meaningless. That incident was the most ungraceful and disappointing moment and incident in history of cricket. The moment before the bowler bowled that ball, one of his team mates came to him, and whispered him in his ear and also showed him what to do with his own hand. That means not only bowler was the culprit, but the but other players was also culprit, may be whole team. You said the hitting ball on the head and the umpire given him out was the umpire's decision, but why he gave him out? Because they appealed. Anyone can see the ball hit on the head. I saw every teams' up and down era in history of cricket, but Australians never going down. In order to stay on the top, desperately, they do any thing such as cheating, accusing opposite team players, pressuring umpires to make wrong decision, sledging opposite team players on the ground, and of course coming out stronger.

  • on June 26, 2010, 19:31 GMT

    Wasim Akram denying about match fixing and waugh-warne incident dragged into media limelight ,simply turning out to be information selling (which is quite ugly but not as unacceptable as match fixing)shows that match fixing is a rare if not absent taboo in modern cricket. This is in contrary to a common poor guy (as said by legendary Wasim Akram)who thinks the match has been fixed every his team loses unconvicingly. Top level cricketers have enoughj character and struggle in their memory bank to deny the futile hard cash in consequence of pride of their country and themselves. This article has changed my views towards cricket matches for good.Thanks Mr.Malcom Conn

  • Danizo on June 26, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    @JigneshPatel_USA Your post is very funny as if you read Adam Gilchrist's autobiography (He is a close friend of Michael Slater) you would find out that Michael Slater was having personal issues at the time and according to Gilchrist, it affected his game.

    Also, the Laws of Cricket state that if the ball hits any part of the body that is not deemed to be the bat and the ball bounced in line with the stumps and would go on to hit the wicket, the batsman/woman may be called out.

    Shane Warne was kicked out because he was using a drug to enhance his appearance. Inconveniently, that particular drug can also be used to hide the use of steriods.

    PS: I'm 11 and I'm an Aussie with Pakistani origin. I'm 11 and also seem to know a lot more about cricket than you.

  • robin.singh on June 25, 2010, 20:19 GMT

    The ACB exercised poor judgement in this instance, and the ICC should have intervened in the interest of fairness. Waugh and Warne had to be involved in something to be fined by the ACB.And why was it kept a secret? A few years after this incident, Marlon Samuels from the West Indies was alleged to have been involved with bookmakers in a similar manner, and was suspened for two years.Different strokes for different individuals?

  • on June 25, 2010, 10:22 GMT

    I think ACB has no right to hide this affair from the common public. They should have let it out. Whether it is match fixing or some silly information sharing, it should have been aired to the public. Let the Australian public or the jude decide the punishment for them. Every nation's Board has come out to the public explaining each and every cricketer's involvement in this scandal and their punishment (to the best of their knowledge). I do not like this decision of ACB hiding this incident altogether. If it is very cheap information, why were they fined? If it is costly information that they leaked, why is ACB hiding it from the public? If this had gone to the pulic, Warne could have been dismissed before retirement, which would have stopped Australia being No1 long time before. A lot of records would have been changed because of that. This is one of the reasons the ACB does not want Warne to be a captain, but still it wants Warne as a bowler to keep it's ranking. Shame on you ACB...

  • kaiser1 on June 25, 2010, 5:13 GMT

    Mr. Malcolm Conn thanks for doing some honest and humane job out of this world of hypocrisy. I salute your honesty and great article. I have known these things through articles and all other media but i was waiting for someone who could blow the whistle and ring alarm bells for others to follow the honest line of dignity. Thanks once again. To say the least in the test match between India and Australlia MJ clark took a bump catch and Ponting backed him, instead of going for replays they forced umpires to give Ganguly out. Believe the fielder policy.

  • BillyCC on June 25, 2010, 4:08 GMT

    Paullie, I agree with all your comments 100%. The journalist in question sensationalised the issue and attempted to drive his own agenda and a wedge between the public and the Australian cricket team.

  • __PK on June 25, 2010, 2:25 GMT

    Jealousy. The real issue that gets this writer's goat is that he was given the slip in Rawalpindi. That's why he repeatedly refers to it. As for Waugh and Warne "selling information" isn't that exactly what journalists do? The only difference is that people paid W&W more for the info because they are (quite rightly) more respected in the field than this writer. And to include this incident in an article which refers to real corruption is to taint their names by association. There IS nothing wrong with what they did. They didn't give out confidential team tactics and they certainly didn't influence the course of a match. And the picture at the top is actually supporting Waugh by mocking the figures who interpreted their innocent behaviour as corruption.

  • redneck on June 25, 2010, 2:23 GMT

    JigneshPatel_USA i agree but the aussie cricket team never pretended to be saints! however sachin was out lbw that time he was hit in the head! the term leg before wicket is misleading. the ball can hit any part of your body thats not deemed part of your bat. if that part of the body is in line with the stumps upon the ball hitting it your still out lbw! still out of that whole sage in the 90's i would like to think that the end result was a less corrupt international game!

  • BillyCC on June 27, 2010, 23:53 GMT

    JigneshPatel, maybe you feel strongly about the underarm incident, but it happened in a meaningless one-dayer and outside of a World Cup. One-dayers were only great marketing opportunities in those days and that incident fuelled all the marketing, the allegations and everything else you could think of. If the incident had happened in a Test match and clearly it was against the spirit of the game, then I would agree with you and both Chappells should have been sacked. And I can't believe you insist on the McGrath-Tendulkar incident. It looked out, so they appealed, and it was given out because the umpire thought it was out. I thought it was out, many people thought it was out. At the least, it was poor batting and he deserved to be given out. It was one of the few times that Tendulkar was all at sea, and in that series, McGrath and Warne had his measure.

  • Jaggadaaku on June 27, 2010, 20:31 GMT

    BillyCC, how could you say the Under-arm bowling incident was the meaningless. That incident was the most ungraceful and disappointing moment and incident in history of cricket. The moment before the bowler bowled that ball, one of his team mates came to him, and whispered him in his ear and also showed him what to do with his own hand. That means not only bowler was the culprit, but the but other players was also culprit, may be whole team. You said the hitting ball on the head and the umpire given him out was the umpire's decision, but why he gave him out? Because they appealed. Anyone can see the ball hit on the head. I saw every teams' up and down era in history of cricket, but Australians never going down. In order to stay on the top, desperately, they do any thing such as cheating, accusing opposite team players, pressuring umpires to make wrong decision, sledging opposite team players on the ground, and of course coming out stronger.

  • on June 26, 2010, 19:31 GMT

    Wasim Akram denying about match fixing and waugh-warne incident dragged into media limelight ,simply turning out to be information selling (which is quite ugly but not as unacceptable as match fixing)shows that match fixing is a rare if not absent taboo in modern cricket. This is in contrary to a common poor guy (as said by legendary Wasim Akram)who thinks the match has been fixed every his team loses unconvicingly. Top level cricketers have enoughj character and struggle in their memory bank to deny the futile hard cash in consequence of pride of their country and themselves. This article has changed my views towards cricket matches for good.Thanks Mr.Malcom Conn

  • Danizo on June 26, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    @JigneshPatel_USA Your post is very funny as if you read Adam Gilchrist's autobiography (He is a close friend of Michael Slater) you would find out that Michael Slater was having personal issues at the time and according to Gilchrist, it affected his game.

    Also, the Laws of Cricket state that if the ball hits any part of the body that is not deemed to be the bat and the ball bounced in line with the stumps and would go on to hit the wicket, the batsman/woman may be called out.

    Shane Warne was kicked out because he was using a drug to enhance his appearance. Inconveniently, that particular drug can also be used to hide the use of steriods.

    PS: I'm 11 and I'm an Aussie with Pakistani origin. I'm 11 and also seem to know a lot more about cricket than you.

  • robin.singh on June 25, 2010, 20:19 GMT

    The ACB exercised poor judgement in this instance, and the ICC should have intervened in the interest of fairness. Waugh and Warne had to be involved in something to be fined by the ACB.And why was it kept a secret? A few years after this incident, Marlon Samuels from the West Indies was alleged to have been involved with bookmakers in a similar manner, and was suspened for two years.Different strokes for different individuals?

  • on June 25, 2010, 10:22 GMT

    I think ACB has no right to hide this affair from the common public. They should have let it out. Whether it is match fixing or some silly information sharing, it should have been aired to the public. Let the Australian public or the jude decide the punishment for them. Every nation's Board has come out to the public explaining each and every cricketer's involvement in this scandal and their punishment (to the best of their knowledge). I do not like this decision of ACB hiding this incident altogether. If it is very cheap information, why were they fined? If it is costly information that they leaked, why is ACB hiding it from the public? If this had gone to the pulic, Warne could have been dismissed before retirement, which would have stopped Australia being No1 long time before. A lot of records would have been changed because of that. This is one of the reasons the ACB does not want Warne to be a captain, but still it wants Warne as a bowler to keep it's ranking. Shame on you ACB...

  • kaiser1 on June 25, 2010, 5:13 GMT

    Mr. Malcolm Conn thanks for doing some honest and humane job out of this world of hypocrisy. I salute your honesty and great article. I have known these things through articles and all other media but i was waiting for someone who could blow the whistle and ring alarm bells for others to follow the honest line of dignity. Thanks once again. To say the least in the test match between India and Australlia MJ clark took a bump catch and Ponting backed him, instead of going for replays they forced umpires to give Ganguly out. Believe the fielder policy.

  • BillyCC on June 25, 2010, 4:08 GMT

    Paullie, I agree with all your comments 100%. The journalist in question sensationalised the issue and attempted to drive his own agenda and a wedge between the public and the Australian cricket team.

  • __PK on June 25, 2010, 2:25 GMT

    Jealousy. The real issue that gets this writer's goat is that he was given the slip in Rawalpindi. That's why he repeatedly refers to it. As for Waugh and Warne "selling information" isn't that exactly what journalists do? The only difference is that people paid W&W more for the info because they are (quite rightly) more respected in the field than this writer. And to include this incident in an article which refers to real corruption is to taint their names by association. There IS nothing wrong with what they did. They didn't give out confidential team tactics and they certainly didn't influence the course of a match. And the picture at the top is actually supporting Waugh by mocking the figures who interpreted their innocent behaviour as corruption.

  • redneck on June 25, 2010, 2:23 GMT

    JigneshPatel_USA i agree but the aussie cricket team never pretended to be saints! however sachin was out lbw that time he was hit in the head! the term leg before wicket is misleading. the ball can hit any part of your body thats not deemed part of your bat. if that part of the body is in line with the stumps upon the ball hitting it your still out lbw! still out of that whole sage in the 90's i would like to think that the end result was a less corrupt international game!

  • on June 25, 2010, 0:47 GMT

    Wow! Some of you people are complete whingers. I'm an Australian citizen but I barrack for England. (Always like going for the underdog...although that doesn't seem to be the case as of late) You do realise this event happened 12 years ago? Your carrying on like it happened yesterday and no one told you. They weren't matchfixing so yes...while a few people lost some money and some bookies got rich....it doesn't tarnish the game of cricket as they were still playing to win. Which as a spectator and not a gambler that's all I care about.

  • BillyCC on June 25, 2010, 0:22 GMT

    JigneshPatel, your post is quite funny because you actually miss many of the incidents that were really ugly in Australian cricket and point out some meaningless ones. I can't believe you brought up the Tendulkar lbw dismissal. That was made by an umpire, not caused by any bad behaviour. He was clearly out anyway. If you want to talk incidents, talk about the recent Sydney test match between India and Australia which was truly ugly and unsportsmanlike regarding Australia. And you can talk about the level of public dislike that Australians had towards the cricket team in the earlier part of the 2000s when Australian cricketers were often branded as arrogant and spoilt because of behaviour on the pitch. Those examples worry Australian supporters and general supporters. The only one you mentioned that qualifies was the Slater-Dravid incident which was poor on Slater's part.

  • BillyCC on June 25, 2010, 0:13 GMT

    Harris Siddiqi, providing weather conditions is harmless. That information is factual and can be gained by contacting any number of informants who could be bothered to visit the place, and I assure you that it costs less than $5000 to get there. Pitch information is also very easy to obtain. In fact, Cricinfo does it every match in their Preview section. So you can't say it's confidential information when it clearly isn't. The question is whether Waugh and Warne provided any real confidential information, and whether they fixed matches. If they did, then they deserved a greater punishment. If they didn't, and there was no evidence that they did, then this issue was blown out of proportion.

  • Jaggadaaku on June 24, 2010, 19:34 GMT

    Farrukh55, Please don't disappoint about cricket. Every one in the cricket world knows about Australians. Did you forget when Newzealand needed 6 runs in one ball, one of the Australian bowllers bowled under arm so the batsman can't hit the six and win. Don't you know when Dennis Leelie brought the metal bat to play and he played some shots. When umpire told him to get rid of that bat, he became very angray and throw that bat to the pavilion. Did you forget "the great spinner", Shane Warne was ejected form one of the World Cup tournaments because of using drugs. Don't you know in one of the test matches, dennis leelie kicked the Miadaad in butt. Don't you remember when the ball was hit on the Sachin's head and umpire gave him out as an LBW in Australia. Don't you know when in action replay showed the ball hit the ground first and then M. Slater cought it, but the M. Slater came to Dravid try to send him to the pavilion like he owns everybody. So, bottom line they always involve in bad

  • on June 24, 2010, 18:36 GMT

    I was at the Adelaide Test in 1998 when the members jeered Waugh. the Barmy Army had quickly penned:

    Mark Waugh is an Aussie He wears the Baggy Cap And when he saw the bookies cash He said I'm having that He shared it out with Warnie They went and had some beers But when the ACB found out They covered it up for years

  • Robski on June 24, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    Thanks for the memories, Malcolm, horrible as they are. Along with an Australian colleague and friend, I first learned of all this about three years before the truth came out - the source, a leading Australian official, kept changing his mind about going on the record, preventing the story from being publishable. Even when we were finally ready to do so, he changed his mind again, hours before deadline. I had to choose between publishing and doing right by a friend; I chose the latter (and have never regretted it). Sir Clyde Walcott, on behalf of the ICC, knew of, and apparently advised about, the fining.

  • on June 24, 2010, 15:51 GMT

    thank you for writing this article it shows that there are many who still value humanity and honesty.

  • on June 24, 2010, 15:17 GMT

    Those who think that providing pitch/ weather conditions to bookmakers is harmless are naive just to say the least. A bookie would pay for that information to calculate the odds certain events in the game. Will the seamers do better than spinners? Is the pitch dead enough to ensure an opening stand of over 50 runs? What are the odds of a wicket falling before the 6th over?

    Waugh and Warnie both knew that this infomation meant hundreds of thousands of dollars to bookies who specialize in spot fixing and they were happy to provide confidential information for a fee before commentators had an opportunity to see the pitch and make the information public. Unless both Waugh and Warne were such idiots that they couldn't understand why anyone would pay them $500 or a $1000 for "harmless" information, they were both guilty and Warne should have gotten a much harsher punishment than the slap on the wrist he got.

  • ww113 on June 24, 2010, 14:35 GMT

    Cricinfo,let's also have a separate article on the doings of that paragon of virtue,Shane Warne.

  • promal on June 24, 2010, 13:41 GMT

    Mark Waugh is forgiven completely. After all, he was the classiest batsman the world has ever seen!!

  • FarMad on June 24, 2010, 13:35 GMT

    i am very disappointed today. i am a die hard fan of cricket and support pakistan. but i am sorry to say that these are the double standards that asians are against. if our players do some thing wrong, the whole world just start saying they are just like they they have damaged the game and etc. but when other players of different counteries such as australia and england do it, they are either not highlighted or just not made public. when imran khan and waseem akram did reserve swing the whole world said they are cheating, using illegal means to swing the ball... but today every tom dick and harry is doing reserve swing, are they also teaching? when english or australians players can do any thing they blame other countries for doing wrong, but when there time comes it becomes an art. Australian board and player who were involved in this should appologies to not only australians people but to every fan of cricket that they damaged the game and try to make things more transparent...

  • on June 24, 2010, 11:29 GMT

    @ ShreyasRao ... excellent point about Atherton and ball tampering etc! I rememebr when all this came out. It was disgraceful that it was hidden for such a long time. I may be naive, but I still don't believe Waugh and Warne were involved in match fixing. The money they initially received I think was a gesture to see whether they were willing to receive money. Once they accepted, then the match fixing approach occurred.

  • on June 24, 2010, 10:15 GMT

    what exactly is match fixing? why the bookies paid that much just to know the weather and pitch...they can watch any local television weather report to know that.........at the time when when match fixing was at forefront during 2000 where lot of indian players name were rumoured and hit the headlines.....i remember kapil dev crying in an interview ...along with azhar ,jadeja some second string players like ajay sharma, nikhil chopra were also prosecuted......what i dont understand here is why the bookies are offering money to this second string players(not only from India even from pakistan some player called ata ur rehman,south african Henry williams who played only 2 matches) to underperfrom ....if some body offers money to Dravid or allan donald it makes some sense....so r the bookies really crazy from a logical point of view....what s their motive?......but dudes I am not supporting Match fixing here....don't misinterpret me

  • mr.cruizy on June 24, 2010, 9:09 GMT

    absolutly spot on when he wrote "affront to pakistan". i will never put this into the sincere/honest catagory if a person tells everything if asked and will not tell anything that is not asked for. Waugh was there in pakistan for the whole tour. he was there in that very court room infront of that very honourable judge who then latter on banned salim mailik from every kind of cricket in pakistan/abroad (the same judge then banned/fined some other players too ) and still Cricket Australlia came up with excuse of "NOT BEING ASKED"? this is not good for the sake of game leave aside individuals or a particular country. how badly is cricket hit by the match fixing/bookies. cronjie, Gibbs, warne etc. i 'll never forgive those who brought disgrace to my country be it my very own personal favourites and most importantly for the sake of cricket i 'll always spit on their faces. either they have to come out and admit publicaly and ask for forgivness n name others involved or live with it.loosers

  • Suresh_Krishnamurthy on June 24, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    Guys, Money was exchanged. That is the only incontrovertible fact. Whether it was for information or something else, we will never know for sure. Waugh and Warne were intelligent enough to indicate that it was for information.

  • on June 24, 2010, 7:18 GMT

    Why we forgot? I didnt know we DID forget. Match Fixing and Telling some bookmaker what the weather and pitch conditions are, are not the same thing.

  • Beavin on June 24, 2010, 7:16 GMT

    Hansie Cronje?

    It all seems so consistent!

  • ShreyasRao on June 24, 2010, 5:48 GMT

    I wonder how quickly we all forgot and forgave these guys and moved on in our efforts to make Warne a Legend .Yours truly included.That goes to show that public memory is short and some times harsh on some people. Wonder is it an Asian thing to punish the people and more western to Cover up ? Atherton can still air his views like a king for all the dust in his pocket, but when it comes to the Pakistanis, there is always that loose talk about the ball tampering. No doubt the Match Fixing scandal is the proverbial elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about . In India too, we had our scapegoat in Match fixing scandal and the rest of the bunch went ahead with their business as usual

  • robheinen on June 24, 2010, 5:29 GMT

    There still remains a question. What information has been sold? What information can be sold that will damage individual matches? I think none. The only offense thus being earning extra money outside your contract & endorsements. Since my imagination apparently is to little, could the honourable journalist - or someone else - please explain?

  • NeilCameron on June 24, 2010, 3:48 GMT

    Very cynical behaviour by the ACB and Conn is right when he says that it was an affront to Pakistan not for Waugh to mention it while he was in court in Pakistan. Shady secrets are not good for the game and Australia (whom I support) should have a policy of transparency and openness, even at the expense of public reputations. If we in Australia are apt to complain about the political machinations of fellow international cricket boards (ie Pakistan most of all) then we have to ensure that our own board doesn't practice what it publicly condemns. Let the secrets out!

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  • NeilCameron on June 24, 2010, 3:48 GMT

    Very cynical behaviour by the ACB and Conn is right when he says that it was an affront to Pakistan not for Waugh to mention it while he was in court in Pakistan. Shady secrets are not good for the game and Australia (whom I support) should have a policy of transparency and openness, even at the expense of public reputations. If we in Australia are apt to complain about the political machinations of fellow international cricket boards (ie Pakistan most of all) then we have to ensure that our own board doesn't practice what it publicly condemns. Let the secrets out!

  • robheinen on June 24, 2010, 5:29 GMT

    There still remains a question. What information has been sold? What information can be sold that will damage individual matches? I think none. The only offense thus being earning extra money outside your contract & endorsements. Since my imagination apparently is to little, could the honourable journalist - or someone else - please explain?

  • ShreyasRao on June 24, 2010, 5:48 GMT

    I wonder how quickly we all forgot and forgave these guys and moved on in our efforts to make Warne a Legend .Yours truly included.That goes to show that public memory is short and some times harsh on some people. Wonder is it an Asian thing to punish the people and more western to Cover up ? Atherton can still air his views like a king for all the dust in his pocket, but when it comes to the Pakistanis, there is always that loose talk about the ball tampering. No doubt the Match Fixing scandal is the proverbial elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about . In India too, we had our scapegoat in Match fixing scandal and the rest of the bunch went ahead with their business as usual

  • Beavin on June 24, 2010, 7:16 GMT

    Hansie Cronje?

    It all seems so consistent!

  • on June 24, 2010, 7:18 GMT

    Why we forgot? I didnt know we DID forget. Match Fixing and Telling some bookmaker what the weather and pitch conditions are, are not the same thing.

  • Suresh_Krishnamurthy on June 24, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    Guys, Money was exchanged. That is the only incontrovertible fact. Whether it was for information or something else, we will never know for sure. Waugh and Warne were intelligent enough to indicate that it was for information.

  • mr.cruizy on June 24, 2010, 9:09 GMT

    absolutly spot on when he wrote "affront to pakistan". i will never put this into the sincere/honest catagory if a person tells everything if asked and will not tell anything that is not asked for. Waugh was there in pakistan for the whole tour. he was there in that very court room infront of that very honourable judge who then latter on banned salim mailik from every kind of cricket in pakistan/abroad (the same judge then banned/fined some other players too ) and still Cricket Australlia came up with excuse of "NOT BEING ASKED"? this is not good for the sake of game leave aside individuals or a particular country. how badly is cricket hit by the match fixing/bookies. cronjie, Gibbs, warne etc. i 'll never forgive those who brought disgrace to my country be it my very own personal favourites and most importantly for the sake of cricket i 'll always spit on their faces. either they have to come out and admit publicaly and ask for forgivness n name others involved or live with it.loosers

  • on June 24, 2010, 10:15 GMT

    what exactly is match fixing? why the bookies paid that much just to know the weather and pitch...they can watch any local television weather report to know that.........at the time when when match fixing was at forefront during 2000 where lot of indian players name were rumoured and hit the headlines.....i remember kapil dev crying in an interview ...along with azhar ,jadeja some second string players like ajay sharma, nikhil chopra were also prosecuted......what i dont understand here is why the bookies are offering money to this second string players(not only from India even from pakistan some player called ata ur rehman,south african Henry williams who played only 2 matches) to underperfrom ....if some body offers money to Dravid or allan donald it makes some sense....so r the bookies really crazy from a logical point of view....what s their motive?......but dudes I am not supporting Match fixing here....don't misinterpret me

  • on June 24, 2010, 11:29 GMT

    @ ShreyasRao ... excellent point about Atherton and ball tampering etc! I rememebr when all this came out. It was disgraceful that it was hidden for such a long time. I may be naive, but I still don't believe Waugh and Warne were involved in match fixing. The money they initially received I think was a gesture to see whether they were willing to receive money. Once they accepted, then the match fixing approach occurred.

  • FarMad on June 24, 2010, 13:35 GMT

    i am very disappointed today. i am a die hard fan of cricket and support pakistan. but i am sorry to say that these are the double standards that asians are against. if our players do some thing wrong, the whole world just start saying they are just like they they have damaged the game and etc. but when other players of different counteries such as australia and england do it, they are either not highlighted or just not made public. when imran khan and waseem akram did reserve swing the whole world said they are cheating, using illegal means to swing the ball... but today every tom dick and harry is doing reserve swing, are they also teaching? when english or australians players can do any thing they blame other countries for doing wrong, but when there time comes it becomes an art. Australian board and player who were involved in this should appologies to not only australians people but to every fan of cricket that they damaged the game and try to make things more transparent...