India in South Africa 2013-14

Decision on India's SA tour likely 'before weekend'

Amol Karhadkar

October 17, 2013

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Haroon Lorgat, the ICC chief executive, at the annual conference, Kuala Lumpur, June 26, 2012
Haroon Lorgat may be sent "on long leave" by CSA © Getty Images
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There appears to be headway into the discussions between Cricket South Africa and the BCCI, taking place over India's tour to South Africa, even before the heads of the two boards meet in London as part of the ICC's executive board. The final decision with regard to the tour is expected to be made "before the weekend".

During a "fruitful" discussion between both the parties in Mumbai on October 12, the BCCI had offered to play two Tests and three ODIs in the month of December on the condition that CSA chief executive Haroon Lorgat is not involved in India affairs in future.

ESPNcricinfo understands that CSA has offered to "send Lorgat on long leave" in order to ensure that the tour go ahead.

It is also understood that CSA has also informed the BCCI bosses that they would be working out a plan before the end of the tour to ensure Lorgat is not involved in future dealings with the BCCI.

Should CSA's proposal to keep Lorgat out of any engagement with the BCCI come through, the itinerary for the tour of South Africa is being mulled by the BCCI. There is a possibility that the BCCI might even accede to CSA's wish to play three Tests, instead of two, should discussions end in agreement. If the BCCI agrees to keep its team in South Africa for the New Year's Test, that would help CSA reduce its projected loss in revenue.

The Indian board is known to have had tetchy relations with Lorgat during his stint as ICC CEO.

The series between India and South Africa has been hanging in balance since July 9, when the BCCI raised objections to the tour itinerary a day after it was announced by CSA. Previously, it had raised "concerns" over Lorgat being in the running for the CSA top job.

While a meeting between Sanjay Patel and Lorgat in Dubai last month failed to resolve the boards' issues, the deadlock was broken when CSA president Chris Nenzani was invited to India for a meeting after N Srinivasan was reinstated as the BCCI chief in early October.

With inputs from Firdose Moonda

Amol Karhadkar is a correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by MWaqqar on (October 20, 2013, 19:22 GMT)

The problem is cricket boards are all too eager to please BCCI and make a buck. If CSA is in bad books West Indies and NZ boards are ready to step in. Tomorrow when these boards will be in bad books other boards will step in to reap a benefit. Even now Pak and SL are ready to step in if there is a slot available in Dec

Posted by milepost on (October 20, 2013, 15:59 GMT)

This is ridiculous. The best thing for cricket is that boards stop bowing at the BCCI altar. CSA should tell them to go jump in the lake. I continue to boycott anything the BCCI has anything to do with and encourage Indian fans to pressure their board not to be so useless. Of course we want to see India in world cricket but this latest episode is just a continuation of heir utter awfulness.

Posted by Shiny-Side on (October 18, 2013, 21:26 GMT)

To all Cricket boards and administrators: You are here to serve cricket. Cricket is not here to serve you.

Posted by Harmony111 on (October 18, 2013, 20:26 GMT)

@shane-oh:

Let me guess, now we won't be seeing you here too. If you think you can get away from me after making ridiculous statements then you are wrong. I might have been more merciful had you not initially claimed how upright, reasonable, enlightened, truthful you were. But you made that assertion initially and then proceeded to give really awful explanations. You gave stats in favour of Jimmy but then said you neves said those stats were any great. This forced me to ask you why did you then give those stats, what was your point? You had no point and you had no answer so you hastily disappeared from that place and here you tried to give the impression as if you were some super reasonable chap.

I have rebutted every comment made by you and I have posed several questions to you none of which have been answered by you.

Right now you have a trembling upper lip and you want to run for cover from here too. I don't mind that actually. Have a happy retreat.

Posted by Harmony111 on (October 18, 2013, 19:14 GMT)

@shane-oh: Oh yeah we saw plenty of your reasoning on that thread. You came there boasting of your enlightened approach for debating but all you could finally produce as reasoning was when you said that Anderson is so good his HOME avg is 8 below his AWAY avg but your brilliant reasoning abilities did not allow you to see that Jimmy's less 8 avg AT HOME was still a very high 27. This when top class bowlers aggregate avg tends to be less than 25.

In other words, you were like someone who was saying how much of a genius he was that he had managed to improve his first year's percentage by a whopping 20 points but the fact was that the prev year's percentage was 45% & the second year's percentage was a mere 65%.

Anyone can see just how brilliant you are at reasoning. Enjoy your enlightened approach my dear, it is fully lit with black light.

Posted by shane-oh on (October 18, 2013, 17:43 GMT)

@Harmony111 - eventually, you give up trying to reason with someone. Some people can be helped, some can't.

Posted by Harmony111 on (October 18, 2013, 17:33 GMT)

@Atholl Canterbury:

If Lorgat is soooo good as you think he is then tell me what did he do to end the current crisis? He had said he would walk the extra mile to improve the situation with BCCI but for more than a month since he took over he did nothing. In fact he did nothing out of the way. ICC had an official meet in Dubai in mid September and he met BCCI officials only there. He held no special meetings with BCCI. Even in that mid September meet, he failed to achieve anything. What sort of an administrator is Mr Lorgat?

You assume that cos BCC is irked by Lorgat so he must have done something good. Talking of corruption, Gibbs & Boje are wanted by Indian Police for questioning in the Cronje Scandal. Did Lorgat offer any help there?

Lastly, even CSA have agreed to sideline Lorgat now. Surely they know more than us.

@Shane-oh:

So you are commenting here but kid what happened to you on that other forum viz ----Anderson aims for 400 Test wickets----???

You ran away?

Posted by ThatsJustCricket on (October 18, 2013, 16:14 GMT)

I see a lot of comments here from the indian fans on "payback for earlier Aus/Eng regime" sort of things. The problem with an eye for an eye strategy is that eventually everyone ends up blind. Cricket is anyway a minority sport on the global map and with this kind of attitude we are alienating members of that already small community.

Posted by ZCFOutkast on (October 18, 2013, 15:53 GMT)

This is madness. India is the most powerful, profitable and crucial nation as far as the game is concerned. Outcomes of CLT20, IPL & many top level ICC meetings hinge on negotiations and non-stop dealings with the BCCI. If our CEO won't be directly accessible to them what is his relevance? He's already failed in pushing for more stringent quotas! We had options in Shongwe, Lupuwana & Morobe perhaps even Ntini. Why didn't we appoint them? Oh yes, the consequences of a certain board voting along certain lines. Now we're stuck with him or CSA faces a hefty pay out! At least now no one will be able to tell me years later, when inevitable changes have happened of course, that "in the past we had smarter people making decisions in the board"!

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