South Africa v Sri Lanka, 3rd Test, Cape Town January 1, 2012

Prince dropped for Newlands Test

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Ashwell Prince has been dropped from the South African squad to play Sri Lanka in the third Test starting in Cape Town on Tuesday. Prince's absence makes it a certainty that recalled batsman Alviro Petersen will have a spot in the starting XI but it has yet to be decided whether Petersen will open or slot into Prince's role at No. 6.

Prince's place has been under scrutiny since the start of the season after he failed to score a half-century in either of South Africa's last two series, against Pakistan and India in 2010-11. He managed 109 runs in three Test matches this summer, including a half-century against Australia in Johannesburg in November, but failed to push on from there.

Prince paid the price for South Africa's spectacular implosion with the bat on the second day of the second Test against Sri Lanka in Durban, when they were bowled out for 168. Prince was dismissed for 11, the joint fifth-highest individual score on a dismal card, playing a reverse-sweep against Rangana Herath in the first innings. In the second knock, he was involved in a nightmare run-out, during which he turned his back on Hashim Amla, who called for a risky single, and it resulted in Amla's run-out. Prince was later dismissed for seven, a second failure in the match, after being moved up the order to No. 5.

Despite his barren patch, Prince has not been the only batsman under scrutiny of late. Jacques Rudolph, who made his comeback to the side after an absence of five years against Australia, was also thought to be fighting for his place. Rudolph forced his way back into national colours after two magnificent seasons at first-class level. He topped the 2010-11 rankings, with 954 runs for the Titans and managed 592 runs from four matches this season.

However, Rudolph has failed to translate that form onto the international stage. In seven innings, he has top-scored with 44. Although Rudolph has looked confident at the crease, he has often been dismissed playing reckless shots and admitted that he wanted to be "more selective" in his stroke-play. He has also confessed to feeling some pressure to perform at the highest level and that may have played a part in weighing him down.

His struggle for success in the opening berth makes it likely that Rudolph will be the one to move to in to Prince's spot at No. 6 while Petersen will return to the top of the order, where he has already had success. In nine Tests, Petersen averaged 33.64 but had to make way for the prolific Rudolph.

Since being dropped, Petersen has scored three first-class centuries, including one for South Africa A against a touring Australian side. Although he said it was "not nice getting dropped from the national team," he hinted that it served as motivation to keep performing.

"Every time I played for the Lions, I was focused on that game, that day and that session," Petersen said in Cape Town. "That really helped me a lot. I wasn't grumpy about being dropped." His place in the batting order has not yet been discussed but Petersen said he has no preference about where he would like to play. "I'd bat one to 11 just to be able to play for South Africa," he said.

Prince could do well to look at how Petersen reacted, since he will have to do the same to get his place back. With five rounds of SuperSport Series cricket coming up, Prince will have plenty of opportunity to prove himself ahead of tours to New Zealand and England next year.

A source told ESPNcricinfo that Prince took the news well and left the squad determined to do whatever it takes to book his flights to those destinations. "He has been through this before," the source said. "And he knows what he needs to do to get back in the side."

Prince was dropped previously in 2002 and spent three years out of the team before making a comeback in 2005. He was also missed out on a place when he injured his thumb in late 2008, just before the series against Australia. JP Duminy replaced Prince and performed so well that there was no longer space for Prince in the side. He was eventually tried in an opening role but when that failed, was moved back down the order.

Meanwhile, Vernon Philander has been declared fit for the third Test. Philander suffered a mild strain to his left knee while training in Durban and sat out during the Boxing Day encounter. His replacement, Marchant de Lange, took seven wickets in the first innings, making him the eighth debutant to take a five-for in 2011. Despite his sensational start to Test cricket, de Lange is expected to make way for Philander, after Morne Morkel showed signs of returning to form in the second Test.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • saudaly on January 2, 2012, 20:47 GMT

    The Best South African 11 for 3rd Test match against Shrilanka. Greame Smith, Alviro Petersen, Hashim Amla, Dean Elgar, Jacques Kallis, AB de Villiers,CA Ingram, Vernon Philander, Dale Steyn, Marchant de Lange, and Morne Morkel .

  • on January 2, 2012, 14:18 GMT

    @Valavan. What happen to your so called no1 team. Anyway now your results is 5 out of 5 isn't it? No any no1 team (bogus) lost like that.True SL lost but not clean sweep like your team faced (all our defeats are 0-1 only so far at home or away in the recent time).Your team is lucky(since your batters not faced Philender in SA).If he played last time results could have been differant. But SL lost even in this series 2-1 to SA still SL can happy more than any team. Hope SL will win.All the best SL.

  • CaptSK on January 2, 2012, 13:07 GMT

    There's a lot written here about Boucher, Morkel, Rudolph, Kallis and Smith. Going into the next game after a shocking, unexpected 200+ runs thrashing they can't be feeling all that great. I don't expect them to read the comments of Cricinfo, but, surely unlike days of old, now they must be aware of what people think of them, thus adding pressure. Sri lankans on the other hand, have done what no one expected them to do and must be on top of the world. They also appear to be managing their limited resources to maximum effect. Expect a good game tomorrow. May the best side win. As a crazy SL fan, even if our boys lose, they have done enough already for me to be proud of them.

  • Valavan on January 2, 2012, 12:31 GMT

    @Sinhaya, hahahahahahahahahahaha, i can just laugh at SL batting except of Sangakkara who show class out of subcontinent. I am neither Indian fan, i am saying the truth, you are speaking phanthom, it was good SL won a test and join other Asian teams who won tests in SA. But i wont put money on SL lineup whose weaknesses were exposed well by Pakistan, Familiar conditions in UAE, i thought ODI series could be closer or even share the T20s, PAK just rolled over, SA is definitely chokers in big tournaments and knock outs, SL is not Australia or almighty England to defeat them at home. I would just say Good luck, hope you will write tomorrow as well.. Dream on but dont go overboard, i wouldnt believe any thrashing that SL will give unless its done. Even the Durban test was considered as a UPSET in CRICINFO. cricinfo please publish.

  • CaptSK on January 2, 2012, 12:19 GMT

    @ Priyantha Gunarathna, Thilan got dropped for a handful of failures? Really? He was the best performing batsman we had. Since 2008 he averages over 70 with the bat, better than anyone in the world.

  • PACERONE on January 2, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    Why did SA change captain for ODI? Was Smith doing a bad job? He was not dropped as a batsman.He has motivated SA to some of the most disappointing losses.He has not been able to save them with his bat,It is about time they change this bloke.

  • mahjut on January 2, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    Poor Prince - as someone mentioned already, he has been really badly managed. If he had been given the same management that AB or Amla have had he'd be right up there with them - or ahead. Peterson himself did little wrong in that tricky openning spot - any worse than Rudolph, who now, for some reason, they're sticking with. I can only imagine they think his years in the UK will be useful next summer.

  • on January 2, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    No one, even the most patriotic of SL supporters predicted a SL win in Durban. But SL by playing better cricket and by applying pressure on SA batsmen when they bowled forced them into making mistakes. So lets not make any predictions for this test match because with series tally standing at 1-1 and with everything to play for anything can happen. Mahela is heavily overdue for runs and so is Dilshan. Mahela should not even dream of captaincy if he cannot justify his position as a batsman if Dilshan continues to fail. Sri Lanka needs consistent reliable batsmen. Mahela and Dilshan are no where near that. Becuase they are backed up by the media these two survive in the team. As for SA, one or two of their top order batsmen should settle down to play a long innings. Thilan and Sanga (discounting the low scores in first 3 outings in this series) are the most consistent of SL batsmen. Unfortunately Thilan got dropped for a handful of failures.

  • HankasHarry on January 2, 2012, 11:35 GMT

    What has Boucher done better than Prince? Prince, Boucher & Morkel should have made way for Duminy, Peterson & De Lange. Not sure about Tahir either. But for goodness sake get Morkel to play franchise cricket to improve his form & let the fringe players have a go to gain some experience before SA head off overseas.

  • FatBoysCanBat on January 2, 2012, 11:23 GMT

    @Andy1102: You missed out Dane Vilas mate. Vilas: 26 yrs, f/c avg 45.19, 2.86 dismissals p/g. He could have more dismissals per match but he plays on one of the worst bowling teams in SA. I reckon he has taken over from Kuhn as the #2.

  • saudaly on January 2, 2012, 20:47 GMT

    The Best South African 11 for 3rd Test match against Shrilanka. Greame Smith, Alviro Petersen, Hashim Amla, Dean Elgar, Jacques Kallis, AB de Villiers,CA Ingram, Vernon Philander, Dale Steyn, Marchant de Lange, and Morne Morkel .

  • on January 2, 2012, 14:18 GMT

    @Valavan. What happen to your so called no1 team. Anyway now your results is 5 out of 5 isn't it? No any no1 team (bogus) lost like that.True SL lost but not clean sweep like your team faced (all our defeats are 0-1 only so far at home or away in the recent time).Your team is lucky(since your batters not faced Philender in SA).If he played last time results could have been differant. But SL lost even in this series 2-1 to SA still SL can happy more than any team. Hope SL will win.All the best SL.

  • CaptSK on January 2, 2012, 13:07 GMT

    There's a lot written here about Boucher, Morkel, Rudolph, Kallis and Smith. Going into the next game after a shocking, unexpected 200+ runs thrashing they can't be feeling all that great. I don't expect them to read the comments of Cricinfo, but, surely unlike days of old, now they must be aware of what people think of them, thus adding pressure. Sri lankans on the other hand, have done what no one expected them to do and must be on top of the world. They also appear to be managing their limited resources to maximum effect. Expect a good game tomorrow. May the best side win. As a crazy SL fan, even if our boys lose, they have done enough already for me to be proud of them.

  • Valavan on January 2, 2012, 12:31 GMT

    @Sinhaya, hahahahahahahahahahaha, i can just laugh at SL batting except of Sangakkara who show class out of subcontinent. I am neither Indian fan, i am saying the truth, you are speaking phanthom, it was good SL won a test and join other Asian teams who won tests in SA. But i wont put money on SL lineup whose weaknesses were exposed well by Pakistan, Familiar conditions in UAE, i thought ODI series could be closer or even share the T20s, PAK just rolled over, SA is definitely chokers in big tournaments and knock outs, SL is not Australia or almighty England to defeat them at home. I would just say Good luck, hope you will write tomorrow as well.. Dream on but dont go overboard, i wouldnt believe any thrashing that SL will give unless its done. Even the Durban test was considered as a UPSET in CRICINFO. cricinfo please publish.

  • CaptSK on January 2, 2012, 12:19 GMT

    @ Priyantha Gunarathna, Thilan got dropped for a handful of failures? Really? He was the best performing batsman we had. Since 2008 he averages over 70 with the bat, better than anyone in the world.

  • PACERONE on January 2, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    Why did SA change captain for ODI? Was Smith doing a bad job? He was not dropped as a batsman.He has motivated SA to some of the most disappointing losses.He has not been able to save them with his bat,It is about time they change this bloke.

  • mahjut on January 2, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    Poor Prince - as someone mentioned already, he has been really badly managed. If he had been given the same management that AB or Amla have had he'd be right up there with them - or ahead. Peterson himself did little wrong in that tricky openning spot - any worse than Rudolph, who now, for some reason, they're sticking with. I can only imagine they think his years in the UK will be useful next summer.

  • on January 2, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    No one, even the most patriotic of SL supporters predicted a SL win in Durban. But SL by playing better cricket and by applying pressure on SA batsmen when they bowled forced them into making mistakes. So lets not make any predictions for this test match because with series tally standing at 1-1 and with everything to play for anything can happen. Mahela is heavily overdue for runs and so is Dilshan. Mahela should not even dream of captaincy if he cannot justify his position as a batsman if Dilshan continues to fail. Sri Lanka needs consistent reliable batsmen. Mahela and Dilshan are no where near that. Becuase they are backed up by the media these two survive in the team. As for SA, one or two of their top order batsmen should settle down to play a long innings. Thilan and Sanga (discounting the low scores in first 3 outings in this series) are the most consistent of SL batsmen. Unfortunately Thilan got dropped for a handful of failures.

  • HankasHarry on January 2, 2012, 11:35 GMT

    What has Boucher done better than Prince? Prince, Boucher & Morkel should have made way for Duminy, Peterson & De Lange. Not sure about Tahir either. But for goodness sake get Morkel to play franchise cricket to improve his form & let the fringe players have a go to gain some experience before SA head off overseas.

  • FatBoysCanBat on January 2, 2012, 11:23 GMT

    @Andy1102: You missed out Dane Vilas mate. Vilas: 26 yrs, f/c avg 45.19, 2.86 dismissals p/g. He could have more dismissals per match but he plays on one of the worst bowling teams in SA. I reckon he has taken over from Kuhn as the #2.

  • on January 2, 2012, 11:20 GMT

    Do the Saffers still have the minimum quota of Black players rule ?

  • AidanFX on January 2, 2012, 11:06 GMT

    @ jonesy2 - which is why I am so annoyed at people in Aus circles convincing Hughes to change his technique - his technique was perfect for his game and how he played - they ruin him and I am rooting for him to come good again and have long careers and blitz the stats

  • on January 2, 2012, 10:55 GMT

    Think this is the right move. Prince brings very little anymore. I would love to give Thami Tsolekile another shot at test level. He has performed well for South Africa A, and is an excellent leader with five seasons still in him. Boucher has served magnificently (an understatement), but is no longer warranting selection.

  • AidanFX on January 2, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    I tell you what I have been mystified about the impressive newbie Philander - i am thinking "Is he that good". His stats are impressive. Than you had another even younger tearaway bowler get 7 on Debut innings and it looks like Philander comes in for him. Judging from outside SA for for one cannot believe he is not comming in for Morkel - who has been decent player but long in the shadows of Steyn.

  • napster82 on January 2, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    The whole reason why SA lost to SL was not of their own fault but some influences made by ICC to make the series more interesting for the public so this won't be such one sided affair thereby keeping the TV audience ratings up so nobody will incur a loss. just wait till tomorrow to see how SA crush the tea boys...

  • Sinhaya on January 2, 2012, 9:44 GMT

    @Valavan, you can talk your usual nonsense! You worry about the Indians who must win at Sydney at least. Sri Lanka have great batsmen like Samaraweera, Mahela and Chandimal who can blister the SA bowlers apart. You are one of the comedians who said SL will lose 3-0 but it is all wrong! You have no clue at all. Philander will get a real blitzkrieg from Mahela, Sanga, Chandimal and the rest and SA will be nailed in style! Cricinfo please publish.

  • jonesy2 on January 2, 2012, 9:27 GMT

    hmm interesting time for the proteas there are a lot of players that are out of form and could go either way. people saying that kallis should retire and smith should be dropped are insane as an aussie i can comfortably say that both are modern greats and cause oppositions mucho problemo yes smith has a hideous technique but who cares, its effective, many test batsmen have horrible techniques.

  • x-squire-x on January 2, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    Another poster said that Morkel should not be dropped until he loses form.... What form? He has'nt done anything constructive for a while now, and with no other assets than his bowling, should not be on the team. Thats unless SA intend to play only quicks, which they should do until they come up with a world class spinner... no, Tahir and Harris are not world class. And why is Rudolf still on the team? What about Duminy? Alviro should open, with Duminy at 6, thought it was obvious, but apparently not. Also i expect this to be Bouchers last test, it should be anyway.

  • on January 2, 2012, 9:11 GMT

    greame smith suppose to be drop out in 3 rd test

  • on January 2, 2012, 9:04 GMT

    why dont they open with Peterson and Amla,JP,Abie,Ingram,Rudolph,du Plessis,Steyn,Philander,Tahir,De Lange 12th man Parnell and Kallis.Gary Kirsten open your eyes,aint u the boss, start fresh dont be afraid start building with new!!! blood

  • Valavan on January 2, 2012, 8:55 GMT

    @Sinhaya, continue your jokes. first of all except sanga, others just talk more, it was capetown where philander shut out aussies, dont worry mate, dream about creating history in SA. BTW the same bunch were struggling in familiar conditions in UAE and got a series failure in SL against underprepared aussies. Philander will nail your captain and shut out the tail from wagging. cricinfo please publish.

  • on January 2, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    @prksinghg. Your comment about Philander is uncalled for. He has played only 3 tests. How can you consider him an overrated bowler. Give him a chance to perform on every pitch out there and then if he didnt perform you can make that comment again.

  • AidanFX on January 2, 2012, 8:10 GMT

    Why would anyone think AB be the keeper - the guy is one of the best fieldsmen in the world - you don't waste a player like that

  • anver777 on January 2, 2012, 8:08 GMT

    SA doing the right thing by bringing in Alviro who is in good nick..... that will give some stability to SA batting line up.....

  • on January 2, 2012, 8:04 GMT

    I must admit that the post from THE PROTEAS MAN, is really true, Boucher really needs to exit the Test Arena. He has nothing with the bat fir the Proteas in many years. He is not a type of player who could win a Test Match on his own. He has been a passenger for many season in the Protea set-up. Come on selectors OPEN your eyes.

  • on January 2, 2012, 7:58 GMT

    This is very sad to know that Morne Morkel will retain his place and M De Lange will get the chop for this Test. Again I an many see how short sighted the Proteas coaching staff and selection panel are. I cannot believe that De Lange gets booted out after his wonderful figures. We all know good and well that V Philander is a muck better bowler than Morne and thats a fact. Just imagine a bowling attack that READS Steyn, Philander and De Lange WOW that would mighty imposing for the Lankans. So we continue to select HAS BEENS and ignore the players that could and would make a difference. Shame Gary Kirsten and Andrew Hudson you guys are fast asleep.

  • Nuxxy on January 2, 2012, 6:43 GMT

    Please stop calling for AB to keep in tests. HE HAS A BAD BACK! He will never last in tests. People can feel sorry for Prince if they want, but he has earned his drop. The calls to drop Kallis are crazy - he is still our best batsman and our only allrounder. I'm glad Alviro is back - as was mentioned, he did nothing to deserve being dropped. And yes, he should open. You should always try open with a left/right combo. Now if only we had a captain who knew how to use an attacking spinner. Smith is trying to use Tahir like they used Harris. Not gonna happen.

  • on January 2, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    @Andy1102. I agree with your sentiment about keeping batting and captaining at the same time. No way AB can cope with that.

    Now of you added laying for a poor team into that equation and managed to average over 50, what do you have? The best wicket keeper bat of all time - nd yet Andy Flower gets no accolades whatsoever in this regard. Its always Gilchrist - not that i have anything against Gilchrist - i just wish someone would start giving Flower the recognition he deserves as a world class test player.

    Went off on a tangent i know, but i guess what im saying is - can AB come close to replicating that? No chance - For now - Heino Kuhn is the obvious (and has been for some time) successor. He shoouldve had 2 yrs test experience behind him allready.

  • Z.Majid on January 2, 2012, 5:57 GMT

    i think prince must be dropped for colin ingram prince plays well for the warriors at no.1

  • stormy16 on January 2, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    SA cannot take the view that because there is no obvious choice for Boucher they need to keep playing him! The decision should be should he play on his form and performance and in his case - can he withstand two overseas tours before next summer when SA go to Aus. I would have tried a new wicket keeper in the current series in preperation for the future. Untill someone is given a chance and fails SA will never know if there is a proper replacement for Boucher out there.

  • Scuba_Steve_za on January 2, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Its a tough one. Prince had a great vein of form till his injury which gave Duminy his chance against Australia. Since then Prince has never really been the same player.

    I was expecting more criticism against Boucher since his dropped catch basically cost SA the test at Kingsmead.

    @Ravi_Bopara. Rudolph can score runs and plenty of them, his recall had to happen. Yes he has not come right as of yet but I think he is in for a big one in Cape Town.

    Anyways it will be a interesting test and hope SA can get some runs on the board.

  • satish619chandar on January 2, 2012, 5:25 GMT

    This is what i thought of.. Rodolph doesn't deserve to be dropped.. He wasted some starts but he did have starts.. Prince on the other hand, played with lots of luck.. The number of times he got beaten and got edge cant even be tracked.. Good to see Rudolph getting the middle order slot now to prove himself.. He need to prove his hunger by scoring 100s which he is vry much capable of!!

  • cricman007 on January 2, 2012, 4:53 GMT

    If the Sri Lankans avoid gifting away their wickets to the likes of Morkel who is at best ordinary and de Lange, South Africa will struggle to bowl them out. Without Philander, the South Africans looked like a powder puff attack in the second test. Matthews and Chandimal must avoid gifting their wickets away, especially when well set. As for the South Africans, their batsmen will be under the gun again. Recycled failures like Rudolph and Peterson will combine with current failures like Smith, Kallis and Boucher to ensure that wickets keep falling at regular intervals. Amla continues to perform but he is surrounded by mediocre batsmen who are reluctant to accept responsibility for their continued failures. Go Sri Lanka!

  • Mark00 on January 2, 2012, 4:33 GMT

    They loose one match in conditions that favor the opposition and you guys are asking for their heads? Even the Indians and Pakistanis aren't this bad, are they?

  • Sudu_putha on January 2, 2012, 4:22 GMT

    South Africans sacred already.. lol.. Little SL has made they worry... SA are always chocke in the big stage... I wonder where is cepler vesales???

  • priceless1 on January 2, 2012, 4:15 GMT

    from SL side they have to seriously think about Mathiews place in the team . he doesn't do anything these days ,also Perera has to make way for the Dammika Prasad

  • Kirstenfan on January 2, 2012, 4:00 GMT

    Why is morkel so precious? He still bowls no balls, still averages over 30 and has to be the world's worst and most irresponsible batsman. Drop him so he is held accountable for his performances.

  • on January 2, 2012, 3:51 GMT

    SA should drop Graeme Smith.......or stop playing Test cricket.

  • crikkfan on January 2, 2012, 3:14 GMT

    Marchant da Lange should play after a fantastic debut - Morkel should make way and Steyn, Philander, Marchant should be their bowling attack. Unless the track is a greenbelt when they can go all out with 4 seamers.

  • Alexk400 on January 2, 2012, 2:48 GMT

    For me South africa is going classical way , they really need few all rounders. Their tail start from boucher. Why he still in the team? Devillers should be regular wicket keeper. I think SA need one good opener who can defend for hours. I see many collapses like india doing. It seems like SA team is very unbalanced. Prince / boucher ..longish tail. They need a fighter as opener. And also they need a grinder in number 6. I drop morkel and pick lange. Philander is just lucky player..he has luck so keep selecting him until he stop taking wicket.

  • on January 2, 2012, 2:31 GMT

    Greme Smith is the person to be removed. He has outlived his cricketing life. He should only play One Day Cricket.

  • on January 2, 2012, 2:05 GMT

    Morkel shows from the last test he is a opening bowler. The problems South Africa have is that they have 3 opening bowlers vying for 2 opening bowling slots. Graeme smiths technique doesnt look good especially left armers. Smith looks like he is really a right handed batsmen who when younger changed to be a left handed batsman.Rudolph need to go to number 5 and Morne Van Wyk should be given a chance with the gloves untill a younger player comes through as his batting is better than Boucher's. JP dumminy stroke play looks pleasing to the eye. Especially when he plays the cover drive but he is not consistant enough to become a fixture in the South Afrcia set up.

  • on January 2, 2012, 0:54 GMT

    Why pick a wicket keeper when there's AB Devilliers? The batting lineup can be strengthened with and extra batsmen.

  • on January 2, 2012, 0:38 GMT

    Ridiculous, number 6 in the order is NOT Prince's batting position!! South African cricket will never EVER learn from there sorry mistakes. Why not drop Graeme Smith? Three years of poor form, has a clumsy/shoddy technique, and as a captain sets defensive fields for an attacking leg spinner, unbelievable! Mark Boucher should'nt even be in the squad to begin with, and Kallis should retire and make way for new blood. Morne Morkel has had a poor run of form, why not drop him too? Unbelievable, come on Lanka, spin a web around them again

  • Sinhaya on January 2, 2012, 0:24 GMT

    @Valavan, Philander will get hammered in Cape Town. You are an anti Lankan for sure in a state of depression after Sri Lanka won in style. No one can stop Sri Lanka from creating history at Cape Town. A ten wicket haul awaits Rangana Herath!

  • on January 2, 2012, 0:06 GMT

    I think SA has to think Dumminy.He is an excellent player.

  • prksinghg on January 1, 2012, 23:51 GMT

    philander is the most overrated bowler on earth.if you remembe,r he got his 1st five in a ground with lot of expected swing due to its geographical location. then he could not do anything in the second inning. Even in SL tour he got another 5s in a very badly prepared pitch. If sri lanka didnt offer any wicket to him inside the early morning session u will see how ordinary he is.

  • Andy1102 on January 1, 2012, 23:48 GMT

    Now let's compare Boucher's record to his challengers.

    Boucher: 35yrs; FC Ave 33.13; 3.57 dismissal p/g

    The challengers:

    Heino Kuhn - 28 yrs; FC: Ave 44.26; 3.25 dismissal p/g Morne van Wyk - 33 yrs; FC: Ave 35.89; 2.73 dismissal p/g Thami Tsolekile - 31 yrs; FC: Ave 28.97; 3.433 dismissal p/g Davy Jacobs - 29 yrs; FC: Ave 36.41; 1.733 dismissal p/g Daryn Smit - 28 yrs; FC: Ave 33.47; 3.06 dismissal p/g

    The obvious conclusion seems to be that Heino Kuhn has the best credentials and should in my view be playing consistently in the ODI's and T20. This would afford Boucher greater time to focus on test cricket and Heino time to learn from Boucher as well as acclimatising to international cricket.

  • Andy1102 on January 1, 2012, 23:45 GMT

    Come on guys let's make these forums worthwhile by contributing constructive thoughts.

    There seem to be a lot of calls to drop Boucher. I agree that his current batting form is atrocious and that he's old, but the aim of dropping a player is to improve the team's performance. To everyone who has been calling for Boucher's head, my question to you is: who will replace him?

    SA cricket have made no attempt to groom a youngster for the future and recently have taken to playing AB / Boucher in the ODI's and T20's.

    Some have suggested AB is the one for the job, but I don't believe this is a viable long term solution. AB is the future test captain and will probably bat at 4 when Kallis retires. He cannot be expected to bat at 4, keep and fulfil the captaincy role. Gilchrist at the height of his cricketing powers was never considered for the Aussie captaincy role. To captain and keep is nearly impossible - consider Dhoni's form in test cricket

  • RAVI_BOPARA on January 1, 2012, 23:41 GMT

    I MENTIONED BEFORE THE SERIES STARTED THAT RECALLING RUDOLPH WAS A BAD MISTAKE & HE WOULDNT GET ANY RUNS - THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED.. AS FOR PRINCE, HIS TEST DAYS ARE OVER FOR GOOD & IT WONT BE LONG BEFORE DUMINY IS BACK TO REPLACE PRINCE.

  • FatBoysCanBat on January 1, 2012, 23:00 GMT

    This will be the end of his career. He is 34 and hasn't made a ton since start of 2009. Petersen didn't do anything wrong to get dropped so good to see him back. I think he will open and Rudolph will come in at 6 [which probably suits his game better than opening]. @Mohammad Akram: Tests and ODI's are completely different games and Amla was going to bat 3 in ODI's but somebody got injured and they only had middle order back-up so Amla opened and hasn't looked back. @ThirdRenegade: You make 1 or 2 good points but AB de Villiers is 1 of the only form batsmen at the moment. His last five scores: 64, 73, 99, 25, 69 - so I'm not sure how AB was "let off lightly." du Plessis is not the next best middle order batsmen in SA anyway [f/c avg of 34], Riley Rossouw is probably the best right now. Heino Kuhn and Dane Vilas are ahead of van Wyk also and have been for a while. Also I think Philander is a better go to bowler than de Lange and Morkel deserves to keep his spot - until he loses form.

  • vaidy on January 1, 2012, 21:20 GMT

    This is sad. This is one case of the admins ruining a player's career. Does anyone remember Prince's streak of great batting until he was forced to become an opener to accommodate Duminy? Of course, JP is not anywhere in contention and Prince has never been the same once he came back to No. 6. Poor fellow.

  • Beertjie on January 1, 2012, 20:42 GMT

    FYI, Siyasanga Mabokela, Boucher is 35 and well past his sell-by date. He needs to go now and a wider perspective needs to be taken after Newlands. Surely the best decision is to make AB captain and wicket-keeper, batting at 6. Dean Elgar needs to play asap. Another batter at 7, but I fear for Duminy - he's easy meat for any good offie. The idea of Mohammed Akram to use Amla as an opener may be worthwhile, thus allowing Duminy to come in at 3. If Elgar batted at 5, there would be space for another newbie such as Ingram/Levi (or Rudolph) at 7. My fear is that they'll pick an all-rounder instead of a true batsman there. Kallis can't be replaced at all. The pace attack is strong but Tahir needs to fire if he's to be worth persevering with. All together, there's more than enough batting talent, @landl47! It's the pusillanimous selectorial policy that is the stumbling block. Philander too, needs, to work at his batting again. He was a good lower-order bat when he started playing ODI's.

  • on January 1, 2012, 20:30 GMT

    Well it was foreseen lack of confidence, winching about he has to bat at 6 instead of 6 and his personal body language and Alviro deserves to be back, and I think Rudolph will move to six and if he fails Duminy will be in the squad soon........

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 1, 2012, 20:19 GMT

    The fact that he was involved in that runout, where Prince was also at fault, didn't help either.

  • on January 1, 2012, 19:45 GMT

    any batsman replace, sri lanka will win next match, it is100% sure.

  • DilbertZA on January 1, 2012, 19:04 GMT

    The whole point of a team change would be to prevent another batting collapse. I would have liked to see De Villiers take the gloves & perhaps drop one down to nr 6. Perhaps also a good idea to ply Duminy as all-rounder instead of Tahir, to share 5th bowler duties with Kallis. Smith, Petersen, Amla, Kallis, Rudolph, De Villiers, Duminy, Steyn, Phillander, Morkel, De Lange looks solid imo.

  • Ameega on January 1, 2012, 18:32 GMT

    As a SL fan, I wish a 2-1 in favour of SL. However, SA is still better organized and consistent side to take the series, and of course with home advantage. And one must not forget that, there was always criticism of SL were not been performing up to there potential, that means, 1 win in 15 matches means just under performance (than expected) and does not reflect there true capabilities. Last three series loss for them were not white washes, just 1-nil. (3 losses, 6 draws). So, I would say, SL still can make it, given that another two batters come to form. No valid points in Sinhaya's comments as well as in Valavan's.

  • yorkslanka on January 1, 2012, 18:31 GMT

    question to the SA fans, where is duminy?He seemed like a really good player to me, why is he not being picked in your team?

  • on January 1, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    Would like to see Albie Morkel in Whites!! Dunno when he is so talented why he isn't given a long fair chance!!

  • ThirdRenegade on January 1, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    Ashwell Prince has had a torrid time of late & my feeling is he's not very comfortable playing for RSA. While batting he doesn't seem settled & that's put a lot of pressure on AB DeVilliers, Boucher & the lower order. Without inspiring any kind of confidence that's not going to help RSA one bit. I feel Boucher was also let of lightly the same could be said for DeVilliers. Perhaps Pfaff DuPlessis or Morne van Wyk could do much better than these 2! RSA hasn't been at all convincing at Test & ODI Levels & their ICC Rating is also highly overrated. Jacques Rudolph perhaps is better suited to the middle order but he's a better batsman than Prince. Marchan de Lange surely deserved to be in the squad after a fantastic debut! He is the best go to bowler they have at present. Sri Lanka are on a high after the win in Kingsmead but Newlands will help the pacemen more

  • on January 1, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    why not put amla in opening role he does so in the one dayers and put dumny in middle order

  • on January 1, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    we are screwed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • stormy16 on January 1, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    I reckon that is the end of Prince as at 34 it wouldnt make sense to recall him. What's more there is no shortage of younger players around who deserve the chance to play at the highest level.

  • ShehanJay on January 1, 2012, 16:36 GMT

    @Sinhaya

    One swallow does not make a summer and one solitary win after 18 months does not make the SL team the better team in SA. So don't count your chickens before they are hatched.

  • Valavan on January 1, 2012, 16:28 GMT

    i ask nobody to take sinhaya serious. he seems to know nothing here. I think Philander 10 for in waiting to SL. :)). cricinfo please publish.

  • on January 1, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    Ashwel Prince, Mark Boucher, Jack kallis with Smith should be dropped till they perform, i wish sri Lanks Wins In S.Africa, India wins in Australia & Pakistan wins in UAE. good luck Asian

  • Robster1 on January 1, 2012, 15:07 GMT

    There are ample very promising young South African batsmen - Ingram, Miller, Elgar and Levi to mention but a few.

  • MCSJCW on January 1, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    So much for the whole team getting all the games before changing the team. What about boucher and morkel? Its bad enough SA has worst WK batsmen in the world, he is also now missing at least two chances every game and morkel is obviusly low on morale. I do think prince is past his sell by date but you have to be fair. Its unfair to blame prince for the batting failures of the whole team. Smith is a worry because although he averages 50, he must be the least consistent batsman in the world. Every series he scores at least one huge unbeaten hundred but the other 5 innings, he scores poorly.. Gives him an average of 50 but only really contributes in one test of the series. Compared to say, Amla, who scores fifties regularly

  • MCSJCW on January 1, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    So much for the whole team getting all the games before changing the team. What about boucher and morkel? Its bad enough SA has worst WK batsmen in the world, he is also now missing at least two chances every game and morkel is obviusly low on morale. I do think prince is past his sell by date but you have to be fair. Its unfair to blame prince for the batting failures of the whole team. Smith is a worry because although he averages 50, he must be the least consistent batsman in the world. Every series he scores at least one huge unbeaten hundred but the other 5 innings, he scores poorly.. Gives him an average of 50 but only really contributes in one test of the series. Compared to say, Amla, who scores fifties regularly

  • on January 1, 2012, 14:56 GMT

    @land47 rudolf is 30 as is smith aliviro is 29 they can all play for 7 more years. Only boucher 34 and kallis 36 are old.

  • tanstell87 on January 1, 2012, 14:52 GMT

    Duminy should play at 6,Smith should play only as a player with AB captain..i have been following test cricket of Ind-Aus-SA-Pak-SL-WI-Eng & NZ since 1996.SA is highly inconsistent these days but i have seen a different SA...for me SA was number 1 team in mid nineties(96 onwards)even though India had beaten Saffers at home in Nov 1996..but SA demolished India in SA..they were ruthless at home..but Australia defeated them in Mar-April 97 in a test series in SA,i was shocked because i never saw it coming.Australia became number 1 for everyone but not for Indian fans as they could not beat India convincingly until 1999-2000 test series in Australia.for me SA-SL & Pak were top three teams in international cricket.WI began to decline with 0-5 defeat in SA.Eng & NZ could be beaten at home.SL were world champions.they defeated everyone convincingly until 1997,then the tide turned...SA had defeated SL in final of quadrangular series in Pak in Nov 97...cricket is very different these days...!

  • Sinhaya on January 1, 2012, 14:42 GMT

    No matter what changes are made, Sri Lanka is definitely going to win in Cape Town and win the series 2-1 and create history! Sri Lankans are back in full swing.

  • YashSLC on January 1, 2012, 14:30 GMT

    Now Rudolp knows that if he fails in third test he will also lose his place.He is given extra pressure now.

  • on January 1, 2012, 14:26 GMT

    If the Proteas play to their potential at Newlands even Sri-Lanka's very best effort will not be good enough, but they better NEVER underestimate this Sri Lankan team again, otherwise the result will be the same as in Durban.

  • landl47 on January 1, 2012, 14:02 GMT

    Prince is 34 now and his chances of forcing his way back into the side seem slim. SA has some batting problems; Kallis is 36 and getting to the end of his career and Smith, Petersen and Rudolph are all over 30, as is Boucher. There don't appear to be any good young batsmen on the horizon, so in a couple of years SA is going to be down to Amla and de Villiers as test class batsmen. The bowling looks great, but unless they can score some runs it will be tough to win games against the top sides. BTW, if Petersen has had success at test level with an average of 33 in 9 tests, then there must be a new definition of 'success' that I haven't heard.

  • TheProteasMan on January 1, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    If only the article read ..Boucher dropped for Newlands Test.He deserves to be dropped FIRST then the others

  • woodhaven on January 1, 2012, 13:39 GMT

    i guess this is the end of prince. rudolph should bat at middle order and pietersen should open with smith.

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  • woodhaven on January 1, 2012, 13:39 GMT

    i guess this is the end of prince. rudolph should bat at middle order and pietersen should open with smith.

  • TheProteasMan on January 1, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    If only the article read ..Boucher dropped for Newlands Test.He deserves to be dropped FIRST then the others

  • landl47 on January 1, 2012, 14:02 GMT

    Prince is 34 now and his chances of forcing his way back into the side seem slim. SA has some batting problems; Kallis is 36 and getting to the end of his career and Smith, Petersen and Rudolph are all over 30, as is Boucher. There don't appear to be any good young batsmen on the horizon, so in a couple of years SA is going to be down to Amla and de Villiers as test class batsmen. The bowling looks great, but unless they can score some runs it will be tough to win games against the top sides. BTW, if Petersen has had success at test level with an average of 33 in 9 tests, then there must be a new definition of 'success' that I haven't heard.

  • on January 1, 2012, 14:26 GMT

    If the Proteas play to their potential at Newlands even Sri-Lanka's very best effort will not be good enough, but they better NEVER underestimate this Sri Lankan team again, otherwise the result will be the same as in Durban.

  • YashSLC on January 1, 2012, 14:30 GMT

    Now Rudolp knows that if he fails in third test he will also lose his place.He is given extra pressure now.

  • Sinhaya on January 1, 2012, 14:42 GMT

    No matter what changes are made, Sri Lanka is definitely going to win in Cape Town and win the series 2-1 and create history! Sri Lankans are back in full swing.

  • tanstell87 on January 1, 2012, 14:52 GMT

    Duminy should play at 6,Smith should play only as a player with AB captain..i have been following test cricket of Ind-Aus-SA-Pak-SL-WI-Eng & NZ since 1996.SA is highly inconsistent these days but i have seen a different SA...for me SA was number 1 team in mid nineties(96 onwards)even though India had beaten Saffers at home in Nov 1996..but SA demolished India in SA..they were ruthless at home..but Australia defeated them in Mar-April 97 in a test series in SA,i was shocked because i never saw it coming.Australia became number 1 for everyone but not for Indian fans as they could not beat India convincingly until 1999-2000 test series in Australia.for me SA-SL & Pak were top three teams in international cricket.WI began to decline with 0-5 defeat in SA.Eng & NZ could be beaten at home.SL were world champions.they defeated everyone convincingly until 1997,then the tide turned...SA had defeated SL in final of quadrangular series in Pak in Nov 97...cricket is very different these days...!

  • on January 1, 2012, 14:56 GMT

    @land47 rudolf is 30 as is smith aliviro is 29 they can all play for 7 more years. Only boucher 34 and kallis 36 are old.

  • MCSJCW on January 1, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    So much for the whole team getting all the games before changing the team. What about boucher and morkel? Its bad enough SA has worst WK batsmen in the world, he is also now missing at least two chances every game and morkel is obviusly low on morale. I do think prince is past his sell by date but you have to be fair. Its unfair to blame prince for the batting failures of the whole team. Smith is a worry because although he averages 50, he must be the least consistent batsman in the world. Every series he scores at least one huge unbeaten hundred but the other 5 innings, he scores poorly.. Gives him an average of 50 but only really contributes in one test of the series. Compared to say, Amla, who scores fifties regularly

  • MCSJCW on January 1, 2012, 14:59 GMT

    So much for the whole team getting all the games before changing the team. What about boucher and morkel? Its bad enough SA has worst WK batsmen in the world, he is also now missing at least two chances every game and morkel is obviusly low on morale. I do think prince is past his sell by date but you have to be fair. Its unfair to blame prince for the batting failures of the whole team. Smith is a worry because although he averages 50, he must be the least consistent batsman in the world. Every series he scores at least one huge unbeaten hundred but the other 5 innings, he scores poorly.. Gives him an average of 50 but only really contributes in one test of the series. Compared to say, Amla, who scores fifties regularly