The Ashes 2010-11 September 23, 2010

Tremlett and Panesar earn Ashes calls

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Chris Tremlett and Monty Panesar have been recalled to the England squad for the Ashes tour, but Ajmal Shahzad misses out on the main 16-man party and will instead travel with the performance team. The positions of final pacemen and second spinner were the only ones up for grabs among a settled unit, with Tremlett's height and Panesar's previous Test experience being the deciding factors.

It had been expected that Shahzad had done enough in his few appearances this season, particularly with his use of reverse swing, to make the final cut but the selectors have opted to send him with the second string, while Tim Bresnan goes in the main group to provide allrounder cover. However, Shahzad will fly out with the full party on October 29 for the warm-up period before moving to the performance side ahead of the Brisbane Test. The rest of the squad provoked very little debate with Steve Davies being rewarded for his successful one-day form with the back-up keeper role.

However, the two players to gain most from the announcement are Tremlett and Panesar after periods in the international wilderness. Tremlett last appeared in 2008 - but hasn't played a Test since his successful debut series against India in 2007 - while Panesar has been ignored since his famous rearguard with the bat alongside James Anderson against Australia, at Cardiff, last year.

Tremlett enjoyed a resurgent season with Surrey having joined from Hampshire, taking 48 Championship scalps at 20.18. Six weeks ago he was in prime form and although he tailed off towards the end of the summer he earned strong reviews. Tremlett has always had the attributes to be a Test-match fast bowler, but has had to battle against a perception that his character is suspect under pressure. Although he will start outside the first XI, any injuries to the pace attack will give him the chance to prove his detractors wrong.

Panesar, meanwhile, moved from Northamptonshire to Sussex for the 2010 season in an attempt to revive his England career and he enjoyed a successful summer with 52 Championshop wickets at 25.53. The other contenders as back-up for Graeme Swann were James Tredwell, the Kent offspinner who made his Test debut against Bangladesh in Dhaka earlier this year, and Adil Rashid who had an impressive all-round season with Yorkshire which brought 732 runs at 45.75 alongside 57 wickets at 31.29.

But, in one of the most surprising selections, Rashid has not only missed the main squad but also the performance side that will be based in Brisbane and Perth alongside the Ashes party. Tredwell, and the 19-year-old Hampshire left-arm spinner Danny Briggs, are the two slow bowlers acting as support to Swann and Panesar.

"We believe we've selected an outstanding Test squad for what will be a fiercely contested Ashes series in Australia," Geoff Miller, the national selector, said. "In order to retain the Ashes we will need to play to a very high level and we believe we've selected a squad to do just that.

"Clearly there are always difficult decisions to make when selecting an England squad and this Ashes squad was no different. We feel that Chris Tremlett's inclusion will add a real threat of pace and bounce to our bowling attack given the conditions in Australia. Chris will be vying for a place in the final team amongst a confident attack including James Anderson, Stuart Broad, Tim Bresnan and Steven Finn.

"We feel that following an excellent season with Sussex Monty Panesar deserves his opportunity to assume the role as England's second spinner behind Graeme Swann. Monty has gone away and worked on his bowling since his last England appearance and he continues to be an attacking threat with the ball in his hand."

The performance squad includes those who have been around England squads in recent times - Tredwell, Michael Carberry, and Liam Plunkett - along with some of the strongest performers from the domestic season including Jimmy Adams, the Hampshire opener, James Taylor from Leicestershire, Yorkshire's Adam Lyth and Warwickshire's allrounder Chris Woakes. There is also a place for Ben Stokes, the Durham allrounder, who was born in New Zealand but Ravi Bopara doesn't make it and will instead play first-class cricket in South Africa.

The performance side will be based in Brisbane from November 13 where it will play a four-day match against a Queensland XI (November 25-28) before relocating to Perth on November 29 to play a Western Australia XI (December 7-10) and they will remain in Perth for the lead up to the third Ashes Test before returning to the UK on December 16.

David Parsons, the ECB performance director, said: "The England Performance Programme provides an excellent opportunity for those players identified as having considerable talent to train together in an England environment throughout the winter and further develop as cricketers.

"The time spent at the National Cricket Performance Centre in Loughborough and Australia allows our national lead coaches to work intensively with the players and assess their readiness to graduate to the full England side when the opportunity arises. It has been very pleasing to see the likes of Jonathan Trott, Eoin Morgan, Steven Finn and Steve Davies who have all spent time on the programme in recent years, go on to play important roles for England."

Ashes squad Andrew Strauss (capt), Alastair Cook, Jonathan Trott, Kevin Pietersen, Paul Collingwood, Ian Bell, Eoin Morgan, Matt Prior, Steve Davies, Stuart Broad, Tim Bresnan, Graeme Swann, James Anderson, Steven Finn, Chris Tremlett, Monty Panesar

Performance squad Jimmy Adams, Jonny Bairstow, Danny Briggs, Michael Carberry, Maurice Chambers, Jade Dernbach, Andrew Gale, James Hildreth, Craig Kieswetter, Adam Lyth, Liam Plunkett, Ajmal Shahzad, Ben Stokes, James Taylor, James Tredwell, Chris Woakes

Central contracts Andrew Strauss, James Anderson, Ian Bell, Stuart Broad, Paul Collingwood, Alastair Cook, Steven Finn, Kevin Pietersen, Matt Prior, Graeme Swann, Jonathan Trott

Incremental contracts Ravi Bopara, Tim Bresnan, Eoin Morgan, Luke Wright, Michael Yardy

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at Cricinfo

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  • on September 30, 2010, 17:54 GMT

    am a little shocked that tremlett is included. England already have finn and broad as hit the deck bowlers

  • Haino on September 29, 2010, 2:27 GMT

    England bowlers have a lack of pace, they're only good in swinging conditions, on australian pitches there's pace and bounce, supporting bowlers such as Doug Bollinger, mitchell johnson, Ben hilfenhaus and Peter siddle, Should be a very hard win for the Poms this year with this squad.And yes, why not have shazad instead of the out-of-form steven Finn?

  • Haino on September 29, 2010, 2:16 GMT

    The current England performance has been farely poor in the ODI series against Pakistan so why not make some further changes like Eoin Morgan for KP? They just picked people on representation rather than form. Reckon Aussies will get the better of them.

  • stuartk319 on September 28, 2010, 8:32 GMT

    Straight forward one to pick really. I think the bowling selections are especially good; all are either proven here or could really hit the deck nicely, troubling Ponting, North and the lower order horribly if they get it right. Just don't know why they aren't taking Rashid at all - why not take him and develop him on pitches that assist good leggies while his confidence is up??

  • on September 27, 2010, 9:43 GMT

    Squad largely picks itself suprised no Rashid and Bopara not even in the performance squad one wonders who he has upset!!!

  • AAJS on September 26, 2010, 16:06 GMT

    Now is the time for all the Asian cricketers to realise that as long as an average cricketer is the main selector they will never get a chance. He is the proverbial guy stood next to you who says in a slurred tone 'I have nothing against you mate BUT all those others...' You know where the story is going and what the person is really like. To ignore Rashid and demote Ajmal smacks of nepotism and a kick in the teeth for these guys. Look at the track record all the Asian players were never given extended runs as Bell and Broad have enjoyed. I bet Saj Mahmood's figures are still comparable to Broad's in terms of averages and yet he is never going to play again for England. Years ago you knew where you stood with Yorkshire and yet they are the most represented county by Asian players. On the other hand hundreds of Asians players will never get a chance with the so called 'open' Lancashire. The same parable can be applied to England.

  • on September 26, 2010, 3:06 GMT

    looks quite a gud squad to defednd Ashes.

  • on September 25, 2010, 16:31 GMT

    N Ur attitude is totally understandable but then so is mine. Coz U would have defended ur country if u were in my position. i m just doing my duty as a patriotic citizen. Thanks. We really don't want to offend anyone. Just saying our views and we are thankful to England for letting us play there with Aus. May the BEST team win the Ashes

  • on September 25, 2010, 16:10 GMT

    Sorry sweeties, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions and views and NO ONE wants ur advice on which team to support.

  • Badgerofdoom on September 25, 2010, 11:52 GMT

    @ADB1 quite right, I'm looking forward to a hard fought series without all the allegations and rubbish that follow Pakistan. The last series was a nightmare that would not end, its just not worth playing Pakistan any more. The very fact that Asif was playing in the first place (after twice being caught with steroids in his system) tells you everything you need to know about what is wrong with Pakistan cricket.

  • on September 30, 2010, 17:54 GMT

    am a little shocked that tremlett is included. England already have finn and broad as hit the deck bowlers

  • Haino on September 29, 2010, 2:27 GMT

    England bowlers have a lack of pace, they're only good in swinging conditions, on australian pitches there's pace and bounce, supporting bowlers such as Doug Bollinger, mitchell johnson, Ben hilfenhaus and Peter siddle, Should be a very hard win for the Poms this year with this squad.And yes, why not have shazad instead of the out-of-form steven Finn?

  • Haino on September 29, 2010, 2:16 GMT

    The current England performance has been farely poor in the ODI series against Pakistan so why not make some further changes like Eoin Morgan for KP? They just picked people on representation rather than form. Reckon Aussies will get the better of them.

  • stuartk319 on September 28, 2010, 8:32 GMT

    Straight forward one to pick really. I think the bowling selections are especially good; all are either proven here or could really hit the deck nicely, troubling Ponting, North and the lower order horribly if they get it right. Just don't know why they aren't taking Rashid at all - why not take him and develop him on pitches that assist good leggies while his confidence is up??

  • on September 27, 2010, 9:43 GMT

    Squad largely picks itself suprised no Rashid and Bopara not even in the performance squad one wonders who he has upset!!!

  • AAJS on September 26, 2010, 16:06 GMT

    Now is the time for all the Asian cricketers to realise that as long as an average cricketer is the main selector they will never get a chance. He is the proverbial guy stood next to you who says in a slurred tone 'I have nothing against you mate BUT all those others...' You know where the story is going and what the person is really like. To ignore Rashid and demote Ajmal smacks of nepotism and a kick in the teeth for these guys. Look at the track record all the Asian players were never given extended runs as Bell and Broad have enjoyed. I bet Saj Mahmood's figures are still comparable to Broad's in terms of averages and yet he is never going to play again for England. Years ago you knew where you stood with Yorkshire and yet they are the most represented county by Asian players. On the other hand hundreds of Asians players will never get a chance with the so called 'open' Lancashire. The same parable can be applied to England.

  • on September 26, 2010, 3:06 GMT

    looks quite a gud squad to defednd Ashes.

  • on September 25, 2010, 16:31 GMT

    N Ur attitude is totally understandable but then so is mine. Coz U would have defended ur country if u were in my position. i m just doing my duty as a patriotic citizen. Thanks. We really don't want to offend anyone. Just saying our views and we are thankful to England for letting us play there with Aus. May the BEST team win the Ashes

  • on September 25, 2010, 16:10 GMT

    Sorry sweeties, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions and views and NO ONE wants ur advice on which team to support.

  • Badgerofdoom on September 25, 2010, 11:52 GMT

    @ADB1 quite right, I'm looking forward to a hard fought series without all the allegations and rubbish that follow Pakistan. The last series was a nightmare that would not end, its just not worth playing Pakistan any more. The very fact that Asif was playing in the first place (after twice being caught with steroids in his system) tells you everything you need to know about what is wrong with Pakistan cricket.

  • on September 25, 2010, 11:10 GMT

    @SoniaAfzal Agreed! Cant wait to see the Aussies win. P.S i m a girl, Not a bro! ;)

  • SettingSun on September 25, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    @AD81 - brilliantly said. Mind you, you can't blame these Pakistan fans hitching their wagon to the Aussie cause as they may actually have the chance of supporting a half decent and honest team that way. Absolutely incredible the attitude of so many Pakistanis here. The ECB goes out of its way to accommodate Pakistan this summer, allowing them to host a neutral series when no-one else wanted to, and offering them a load of international fixtures against England. And just because some of their players may have got themselves mired into something they shouldn't, WE are apparently to blame. Will the last cricket playing country left that is still a friend of Pakistan please turn off the lights?

  • on September 25, 2010, 7:31 GMT

    The england sqaud apart from the two at the bottom are probably preselected.with england refusing to go for a new aspiring batsman or a new bowler...what i saw of Tremlett suggested that he was also a swing and seam bowler as is Finn...any bounce will probably come from broad ..panesar too is a surprise and the incremental contract to ravi bopara..bell and davies probably are teh spare batsmen with kevin pieterson probably under pressure.the third fast bowler and whether england will start with pieterson being teh only questions.against pakistan their wicketkeeper prior kept them afloat. on teh supposedly hard and fast australian surfaces the bowl will come at them hard and fast and probably more bounce to help pieterson.there could be a need to play five bowlers since australia could bat much better than pakistan.pakistan is now an ordinary side with good bowlers and england will surely be looking at a much better australian side even thought the form of ponting is still questionab

  • ADB1 on September 25, 2010, 5:26 GMT

    To all the sour-grapes Pak fans going for the Aussies to thrash England. I am an Aussie of English parentage, and I can tell you Australian cricket fans don't want or need your support. The reaction to the match fixing scandal Down Under was pretty much the same as it was in the UK - disgust and anger, (Australians aren't particularly pleased at the thought they spent time or money watching a dodgy test in Sydney), mixed with an element of "yeah, well it is Pakistan". For all the Pom vs Convict banter that goes on, the Aussies and the English are kith and kin, and the Ashes will still be played long after Australia and England have ceased playing a corrupt and dangerous Pakistan in Tests. Therefore,the juvenile but oh-so-predictable comments of Pak fans here are those of uninvited strangers at a family BBQ: uncouth and unwlecome. Take your bat and ball and go home in a huff.

  • SONIAAFZAL on September 24, 2010, 22:23 GMT

    "@Mahnoor Tariq" cool down bro just let this SO CALLED ENGLISH PLAYERS go to australia & get beaten up by ausies 5-0 WHITEWASH then you see theyer mouth will be SHUT as "many commented" that england have to go with their own umpires and dirty gutter media to win against ausies in australia.... Hope broad and trott get a taste of their own medicine also!

  • silly_mid_on on September 24, 2010, 21:03 GMT

    Usman Khawaja will make big scores if given the chance. I say select him for the first test at number 6. I'm expecting a good series from Clarke, Watson, Haddin and Bollinger. It may be the swansong for Ponting, Hussey and Katich unless they show real form. there are too many talented young players. Clarke is ready to captain. Johnson needs to work on swinging the ball. Spin will have little impact this summer.

  • silly_mid_on on September 24, 2010, 20:54 GMT

    synergy, thanks for your comment. My point is that no batsman wants a good length ball on middle and off stumps that has that bit of extra bounce. If they don't move their feet and get behind it with a straight bat they are more likely to nick it. Look at how many caught behinds Glenn McGrath got thanks to extra bounce. In the batsman friendly Australian conditions, it's hard to pressure the Aussies, but that bit of extra bounce is one thing that could trouble them. A tall guy like Tremlett can get a bit more bounce, however it is crucial that he is accurate and patient, otherwise England will be behind the 8 ball late in the game. I don't see much threat in the other bowlers. Spin will not be a real danger until day 5 and it may be too late by then.

  • dArders on September 24, 2010, 18:11 GMT

    How is it that certain players continue to sneak into the England team despite the presence of vastly superior options. The latest on this conveyor belt is Tim Bresnan - as far as I can tell a useful county trundler who can bat decently down the order. Neither his batting or bowling is good enough at Test level in order for him to be considered an all-rounder and I just hope we don't end up bowling at Australia on a flat deck with Bresnan expected to bowl a lot of overs.

    Really disappointed that Shazaad and Rashid were overlooked in favour of Bresnan and Panesar. A case of picking "good blokes" instead of the most talented available players?

  • hit.trott.with.bat.Go.Hard.Ozs. on September 24, 2010, 17:54 GMT

    Trott betta keep his pads close to him coz he will be using dem very often but this time only for saving his life against Oz.....Go for it and teach strauss a lesson of life time we are with u aussies...Throw bouncers hit their heads so they think straight in future.hahahahahaha

  • Agus2010 on September 24, 2010, 17:34 GMT

    Did they select their favorite Umpires (Billy Doctrove, Ian Gould and Illingworth) for the Ashes Series? ECB has to give more pressure to ICC to select them for the Ashes, lol

  • on September 24, 2010, 16:27 GMT

    What England need is some "GOOD" umpires and some good bowling. And they would win the series.

    Hopefully England Would Meet Pakistan in India it would be nice to see a final or a knock out match.

    This would be a start to an excellent new rivalry.

  • Yasi_Gee on September 24, 2010, 15:31 GMT

    I wonder why suddenly Sidebottom retired from the international cricket without any real reasons? No English talk about it. If he were Pakistani player then every English newspaper would have talked about it. I have doubts now? All will be revealed one day, hopefully.

  • exiledtyke on September 24, 2010, 14:31 GMT

    like many others, I couldn't understand what more Adil Rashid needs to do to get selected.

    and then I realised. He was born in the wrong country, and worse still in the wrong county in the wrong country. if he was South African he would have much more chance of being in the team.

  • on September 24, 2010, 14:19 GMT

    All my wishes to the Aussies. They are Gonna win. No one can beat them on their home grounds. Seriously disapointed in England media, and English cricketers. never knew they were that rude. P.S : Dont mean to offend anyone ;)

  • funsuk on September 24, 2010, 14:00 GMT

    Looks very good squad but inclusion if Ajmal Shahzad would have made a strong Pace attack. I think Shahzad is better choice over Bresnen since he has not impressed anyone with his batting and in bowling comparison Ajmal far talented than Bresnan. Adil Rashid also should have been selected for at least performance side for his all rounder ability.

  • rams2010 on September 24, 2010, 13:55 GMT

    Y the selection panel not considered Greme Onions for Ashes,he has performed excellently in recent ashes series,why they selected Tremlet and panesar for this tour last ashes in AUS Mr.Panesar didn't perform well on that pitches moreover Shazad is better option instead of Bresnan in this tour. I think this England squad will not put any pressure on Australian squad if they continue this bowling attack.I don't understand how the ECB board has appointed Mr miller in selection panel

  • tomphillips on September 24, 2010, 13:24 GMT

    Someone please explain to me why Tim Bresnan plays for England in any form of the game! His poor performances just seem to go un noticed, this summer his ODI stats are shocking especially considering 8 out of 13 games were against very weak batting line ups.

    He has only taken 4 5wkt hauls in his entire 1st class career and he plays his games at seamer friendly Headingley! He isn't quick, doesn't swing it and can't bowl 2 balls in the same spot. I'm sure the Aussies are terrified! I hate to attack one player like this but it just bugs me that some players have one or two bad games and everyone piles into them and this guy just sneaks under the radar!

  • SettingSun on September 24, 2010, 12:53 GMT

    @lucy82 - pretty much. You've got Pakistan fans siding with Australia because one of our newspapers dared to show that several of their cricketers were allegedly involved in something murky, so it is nothing more than sour grapes. I'm not so bothered about the usual Aussie bluster. They've been doing it for so long now that they've forgotten how to stop doing it when their side is clearly riddled with glaring weaknesses and is currently trailing behind England in all three forms of the game. So instead of looking like well-founded and justifiable confidence, it now just looks rather embarrassing. But funny to read, I'll give them that, Lucy.

  • on September 24, 2010, 12:42 GMT

    5/0

    Aussies Gona win this time...

    This Ashed will same like 2006 Ashes... anyone remember??

  • nataraajds on September 24, 2010, 12:24 GMT

    the ENG team is in good rytham & consistently doing well for some time now. let's see how they perform in Australia for ashes.

  • on September 24, 2010, 12:16 GMT

    @rooboy seriously mate talking about the ineptitude of Atherton & Hussein is like me talking about the ineptitude of Yallop & Hughes. Ancient history. As far as I am concerned the current bunch of players (since 2005), England lead 2-1. England hold the urn, lets see if Australia can use their home & familiar cricket ball advantage well enough to wrest it from them. Because seriously if the ashes were being held again in England they would be favourites. The only difference between the two teams is a different kind of cricket ball and conditions that enable flat track bully Australian batsman to prosper. Simple. Go the poms. PS: I am Hammond as well and am 100% Australian.

  • on September 24, 2010, 11:36 GMT

    england will lose ashes .................i dont think they can win even one test

  • on September 24, 2010, 11:35 GMT

    "Tremlett Selected For Ashes Tour" - What a complete and utter joke. He takes a load of cheap wickets in Division 2, where the standard is so poor that Worcester have achieved immediate promotion back to Division 1 where they were completely outclassed the year before and also when they've previously been in Division - despite several leading players leaving them. I don't recall Tremlett making much of an impression, apart from negative ones, in his final seasons at Hampshire. What's the point in having two divisions if the selectors are constantly going to pick players from Division 2 sides just because they are London-based? Shahzad has every right to be cursing the Selectors right now.

  • nair_ottappalam on September 24, 2010, 11:00 GMT

    Hi guys!!!! This time around the baggy green is unlikely to prevail. England have the upper hand, not because they beat Pakistan, but they have something in them at present. Obviously 20 wickets will have to be taken if one team has to win. Not so sure about the English abilties in Aussies conditions. Definitely Swann and Panesar in tandem at MCG and SCG could stump Punter's men. The only Aussie in form is Katich. A lot depends on Watson at the top. Apart from Bollinger, I cant really find a penetrating bowler in the Aussie line up. Finn & Anderson along with Broad can make a difference at WACA. As far as English batting is concerned, the South Africa born trio of Strauss, Trott and Pietersen will really dominate the proceedings. Colly could be the sheet anchor. Prior could entertain and so could Morgan. The English team has a better tail in Swann & Broad. Anderson can hold on for long as well. Let's see first how the Aussies play Dhoni's men

  • 200ondebut on September 24, 2010, 10:57 GMT

    So the county championship player of the year is ommitted from both squads and they take players from the second division. Enough said! Geoff Miller was a very average cricketer and a worse selector. CT may have had a good season but does not add anything to the squad - he's no different to Broad and Finn - Shahzad at least offers a reverse swing alternative (something that was crucial in 2005 and 2009). Height means nothing if you bowl crap - Harmison? If England perform they should be able to retain the Ashes. It will be a close call. Ausies are a good side but they no longer have the "fear factor" they once did.

  • lucy82 on September 24, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    bharath74 Aussie batting is hardly better, at no time this summer were England 88 all out. Yes they have batting collapses but there is always someone who digs in and that is usually Trott who is probably currently England's best test batsman.

    Looks like people are seriously underestimating England, sour grapes perhaps?

  • Rooboy on September 24, 2010, 10:03 GMT

    Correction of my earlier comment - I meant that there have been two English captains to have lost two or more Ashes series in the last two decades, not that they lost the Ashes twice. No doubt some will argue that the fact that England weren't good enough to possess the Urn, so as to be in a position to lose it as a result of those series losses, somehow mitigates the ineptness of Hussain and Atherton.

  • bharath74 on September 24, 2010, 9:59 GMT

    Geoff Miller and Ijaz Butt: I still wonder how did these two guys manage to get the top job in cricket of their respective countries? I would rather outsource this position to Swaziland rather than hiring Geoff and Butt. Geoff Miller's selection of Tremlett bcos of his height makes me laugh, he was of same height from past 10 years i, why was he not selected for previous tours?

  • sgh142 on September 24, 2010, 9:41 GMT

    Shame Pietersen will come in and destroy the team spirt that is clearly evident when he is omitted. I hoped that England had moved on.

  • on September 24, 2010, 9:28 GMT

    Come On Australia, We PAKIZ r with U :)

  • Amjad_Bukhari on September 24, 2010, 8:57 GMT

    Well it is not going to b easy for England guys in Australia. Anderson, Swann and Broad r not going to find a weak batting line up as it was Pakistani batting line up. So doing 3-1 to a weaker batting is not a very big achievement and even they faced many other controversies by english media. Yet they won one test after going down 2-0. Strauss u r going to put ur bowlers in front of watson katcich ponting clark and hussey, so any one of these bowler injured english bowling will b exposed. potential attack is only swann and anderson (if ball swings). i think of plenty of runs to b scored on broad, finn. Swann will b helpful only if pitch is helpful. so Aussies will prefer to make seam friendly pitches and attack with 4 seamers, Johnson Bollinger Hilfenhaus and one more. England batting was exposed many time in series against Pak but it was nullified by even bad batting by Pak. So things r going to b very different from that of series against Pakistan. I wish 5-0 victory for Australia

  • Rooboy on September 24, 2010, 8:40 GMT

    @Hammond - further to my previous comments - I agree Ponting is not the greatest captain, and his field placings and bowling changes do have the capacity to frustrate Aus supporters, but for you to say he is the worst ever is just absolutely ridiculous. He's not the first captain to lose the Ashes twice since the 19th century, at least two english captains have done the same in the last 20 years! My time wasting comment is valid. My comment re Koertzen probably shouldn't have been made ... I mean, he did screw Aus over but it's part of the game. Reading too many comments from our Indian friends has rubbed off on me. And again you make a statement about Aus having a weaker bowling attack which is just not supported by facts and averages. Especially bowling averages in Australia. But I'm sure the Aussie batsmen's knees are trembling already at the thought of facing Jimmy Anderson with his 80+ bowling avg in Aus *lol*. Your arrogance is badly misplaced not to mention unearnt.

  • on September 24, 2010, 8:23 GMT

    If he delivers who cares.

  • ChinmayDash on September 24, 2010, 8:22 GMT

    I think It's England to win it because of the presence of Swan and Anderson.I don't think it's English media ,its Pakistani who hurt themselves.

  • Rooboy on September 24, 2010, 8:17 GMT

    @Hammond - you obviously were watching a different series to most of us! Australia won the 4th test and should have won the 1st, so there's at least TWO tests england didn't have covered. First test match totals - Eng 19/687, Aus 6/674, so Eng were absolutely dominated by a '3rd rate side'. Game goes an extra hour, or england don't resort to childish tactics, and Aus don't lose the series. I concede there is a big difference between 'should have won' and 'did win' though. 3rd test, Aus 271 ahead with 5 wickets in hand, no rain and Aus should have posted a lead close to 400 and we know how often totals like that gets chased down in the 4th innings. So that's THREE out of 5 tests that England didn't have covered, contrary to your delusions. Sorry to deal in FACTS and statistics and all, but I find them to be a better indicator than your imagination. Yep, Eng won and congrats for that, but they did BARELY win, at home, against a third rate side. So I repeat, what does that make england?

  • vulpecula on September 24, 2010, 8:11 GMT

    what on earth is a "performance squad"? Is this merely a months' salaried holiday to placate those who aren't good enough to play in the Test series?

  • synergy on September 24, 2010, 7:35 GMT

    silly_mid_on, Sir if aussies have a weakness against tall fast bowlers then the English sellectors shud have picked Niel Fingleton (the tallest man in UK) as well. Niel Fingleton, Trimlett and Finn could be a force against the Aussies, if we were to go by your theory.

  • Nutcutlet on September 24, 2010, 7:33 GMT

    The elephant in the room is KP. Has he lost it for good? Playing with Dolphins is good for the psyche - let's hope his dip with them pays off. At least the selectors seem to have thought of this possibilty: Morgan is ready to go as a first-choice Test player (at 5), similarly, should Cook fail at the top, expect Davies to be played as a specialist opener who can take the attack to the opposition in a way Cook never could.These batting issues are the only problems in a sound selection. The quicks are as good as Australia's,(and probably more accurate) and Swann, with his ability to beat batsmen through the air and off the pitch, is better than Hauritz. Expect a hard-nosed professional performance from England that will match Ponting's crew - with a couple of sessions deciding the series that will be very close, but I think England can do it, provided they do not persist with KP and Cook if they can't find any form. No one should have a season ticket in this squad!

  • bharath74 on September 24, 2010, 7:05 GMT

    Australia will win the Ashes just because England's batting is really poor, the only men who are in form right now are Strauss and Morgan. Jon Trott should start concentrating on cricket rather than off field issues before he loses his place. Stuart Broad must stop crying if he doesnt get wickets, his dad cant save him all the time

  • Hammond on September 24, 2010, 6:57 GMT

    @rooboy.. we must have been watching different ashes series- apart from one game England had all tests covered. And Punter is the worst, first home test series loss in 20 years, first captain to lose ashes twice since the 19th century. I heard Keith Stackpole say on ABC radio that Ponting couldn't set a field for an Under 10's team. And I agree with that. The only thing that will stop England absolutely hammering Australia this series is the drowning rat mentality of Australian sportsman and the terrible Kookaburra ball and flat decks that Australia will certainly dish up knowing that they have a weaker bowling attack than England. And the Rudi Koertzen/ time wasting comments are exactly the kind of stuff I will enjoy reading in the Herald when England go back with the urn.

  • Rooboy on September 24, 2010, 5:34 GMT

    @Hammond - if Australia is a third rate side, what does that say about England who barely managed to scrape past Aus in Eng's home conditions 12ish months ago? Add in the Aus selector's determination not to pick their best team for most of the tour, a badly misfiring strike bowler (and watch Mitch make up for it this summer!), Rudi Koertzen, english time wasting tactics, and it doesn't really paint the poms as much of a threat this time around. As for Punter being Aus' worst ever captain, I'm sure england would LOVE such a shocking captain who could lead them 2 two straight World Cup titles undefeated or a 5-0 win *lol*. And as you say, Swann and Cook aren't South African. I guess that differentiates them from most of the rest of the english XI. @silly_mid_on - no doubt Aus struggled against the tall fast bowlers you mentioned (which team didn't struggle v Garner or Ambrose?!), but those guys are all time legends of the game and I don't think Tremlett is quite in that category yet ...

  • Fireballz on September 24, 2010, 5:09 GMT

    Good squad but as an Aussie I'm more worried about Anderson than Tremlett. His pace is good but since he last played us he has gained some control as well so if he manages to find somne swing I think that will be enough to trouble our top order. I don't expect another 5-0 spanking like last time you blokes came here but it should still be a comfortable 3-1 win to the Aussie lads.

  • on September 24, 2010, 4:59 GMT

    This is obvious racism against two players of south asian origin. just because they are not white they dont get to play the ashes, a tournament which has a history of predominantly involving whites. everybody should get equal opportunity if they are talented enough.

  • Riz.Khan on September 24, 2010, 4:57 GMT

    @kalimantan & settling sun: "cricket" is not english state we pakistani fully support aussies that they beat england in most decent way and aussie media do the same as english media did with pakistan AUS 5 - 0 ENG

  • SHARK810 on September 24, 2010, 4:40 GMT

    i am happy that peniser is back, his beard brings good luck to the england camp.

  • on September 24, 2010, 4:34 GMT

    its again going to b a 5-0 scoreline in favour ov australia...

  • on September 24, 2010, 3:41 GMT

    all ov of us know that its going to be a 5-0 score line in favour ov australia once again and united nations or u can call england iz once again going to taste the defeat as they always did in the past .

  • Craig_Adel on September 24, 2010, 3:17 GMT

    Wasn't Harmison tall too?

  • silly_mid_on on September 24, 2010, 3:00 GMT

    I wish the Ashes was six tests (like it used to be), not five tests. In 1970-71 they even played a seventh test becaue the third test was washed out. I still love test and first class cricket, one day cricket is too predictable. More tests please.

  • silly_mid_on on September 24, 2010, 2:26 GMT

    Tremlett is the man. Australia have always struggled against tall fast bowlers (Joel Garner, Curtley Ambrose types) but he must pitch the ball up to get the edge. If all of England's fast bowlers pitch the ball up, on all 5 days of the test, they will take wickets. Forget about spin, on Australian pitches it will only be effective on day 5, and the test may be over by then. Use a part time spinner and four quicks.

  • charlzy_33 on September 24, 2010, 2:25 GMT

    looks like a good series. 2 brittle batting line ups, perhaps only 2 form batsmen for each side in kattich and strauss. Australia struggled against WIndies last year during the ashes and probably shouldve been beaten by Pakistan as well. Australia are gonna have to play alot better against a side that's confident and winning.

  • Hammond on September 24, 2010, 2:09 GMT

    I think this side is much better than the 2006 ashes side that go walloped last time, and the Australian side they are facing isn't remotely a shadow of the 2006 side that did the walloping. Even with the home side ball & pitch advantage I think that this 3rd rate Australian side (under it's worst ever captain) will fall. But they will fight all the way like rats fleeing a sinking ship. I say 2-1 England. Swann and Cook will be the keys to Englands success. And neither of them are South African. Can't wait to read all the excuses in the aussie papers after England successfully defend the ashes. You would have to say that England aren't playing against a good cricket team in Australia, they are only playing against the kookaburra ball which doesn't swing and hard flat wickets. I predict a boring, grinding series from both teams.

  • Bigskyrocket on September 24, 2010, 1:37 GMT

    I think England got almost there but not quite. It needs bowlers who can take 20 wickets on good firm tracks under hot sunny conditions. I can't see Bresnan offering much, didn't he get only 4 wickets in the english summer for heaps? Gooch, Gatting and the like contributed more and he is not even close to them as a bat. You needed to bring a wrist spinner, Rashid as untried as he is, he definitely deserves a go. Amazed he is not in the other squad, just to see how he would go in Australian conditions. Anderson and Swann will not be as effective as in England and that's leaves Broad, Finn and Tremlett. If you are playing Panesar you are in trouble. Cook, Bell, Morgan, Collingwood will all struggle. Pietersen will stand up to the challenge if he has any strength of character. I can see you needing to play both keepers by the last two tests, both can bat. You are lucky you are playing a weak by comparison Aussie team. It wouldn't be 5-0 but if you win more than one I will be surprised.

  • kingkarthik on September 24, 2010, 1:27 GMT

    @ricky111 - Is it me or do others also this think that people with ricky in their names are a bit aloof? Was it not the same decline Asif and inexperianced Amir who ripped through Australia in England to win their first test against the Aussies in 12 years? If Kamran has not sold the Sydney test, Paki would have won that too. See those 2 guys are decent in seaming conditions, so it does not matter if it is the Aussies or Poms facing them. The Aussie media is worse the NOTW. Rest assured the pathetic media will target players as they have historically done. Idiots and fools will appear on radio, Tv to give their 2 cents good for nothing expert reviews whilst article on paper will appearing venerating the Aussies. As for follows who are saying the background had a role to play in dropping Shazad and Rashid should take a good look at themselves. All these people who speak against the English, the South Asians, are strangely either in England enjoying the benefits or wait to migrate.

  • synergy on September 24, 2010, 0:00 GMT

    Kalimanthan & Setting sun: Sorry if u dont like the truth, but the facts are that teh English team is in fr a lether hunt and the ausies will whip em bad. As regards us Pakis...we are just waiting fr the English team to visit Pakistan and then we will return the honours.... eye fr an eye...surely and both on and off the field.

  • D.S.A on September 24, 2010, 0:00 GMT

    I also predict that Doug Bollinger will completely own Cook in the series and expose his obvious technical frailties that the selectors will continue to ignore, lowering his terrible average against Australia even further. Also, I think Bell will struggle to make runs unless the real batsmen in the team that bat above him (Strauss, Trott and Pietersen) succeed in scoring runs, after which he will loot runs off tired bowlers. In other words, his success and failure will depend on them. Strauss, Trott and Pietersen will carry the batting for England, while Anderson and Swann will do so with the bowling. Australia's top 5 batsmen are a lot better in general and definitely less prone to collapses than their counterparts. Overall, an easy Ashes victory for Australia, perhaps 3:1 or 4:1 if rain doesn't interrupt a Test match significantly.

  • Dannov747 on September 24, 2010, 0:00 GMT

    I wish flintoff was playing, neither team has good all-rounders! Personally, I think England are the dominant side right now. Hussey and Ponting aren't in the greatest form and the Aussies still have a spinner problem.

  • D.S.A on September 23, 2010, 23:44 GMT

    If Tremlett was such an obvious choice, why wasn't he selected against Pakistan in the most recently concluded series? It seems like either 1) he was injured, which I may not be aware of, 2) a complete oversight by the selectors, 3) he was left out so he could be brought in as a trump card, which is pretty lame or 4) he has been talked about by the media to create a convenient excuse to leave out Ajmal Shahzad from the main squad.

    How is it that Bopara isn't even in the performance squad. Yes I know he's going to South Africa, but I doubt he willingly chose to exile himself from even being a replacement during the Ashes. Also, he's likely to play in the ODI and Twenty20 series afterwards, so it makes no sense being anywhere else than Australia.

    Australia are being talked up as being a weakened team, yet they are still a feared team, not based on reputation but on the new players in the team, and the others that have remained. I predict Australia will convincing win the Ashes tbc.

  • usmankhan001 on September 23, 2010, 22:06 GMT

    @kalimantan.. this is criciinfo not yours notw or any british side so we can discuss cricket here and we ll follow the ashes and atleast pakistan played comparative cricket and win 2 tests in englnd but i doubt englnd will win a single test in australia

  • SettingSun on September 23, 2010, 21:36 GMT

    @kalimantan - THANK YOU. Of course, many Pakistanis will stick around whinging, but it had to be said. Well played, sir. As for the squad, we haven't even picked our strongest squad for the Ashes - we're obviously resting Rashid and Shahzad for the World Cup, no point burning them out on the Ashes, they're in the bag. I reckon they should send Swann, Anderson and Broad home after the third test too for some rest. Even Sidebottom retired to give Oz a chance. Have the Aussies persuaded Hayden, Gilchrist or Warne out of retirement yet?

  • synergy on September 23, 2010, 21:12 GMT

    Sir_Freddie_Flintoff, It seems like you had a dip in pool of scotch. Destroy aussies in Australia and that too by the England squad come on now. Calling this English team the best in the world of cricket is really silly, they would loose by a margin of 3-0 to the Aussies.

  • on_the_level on September 23, 2010, 21:10 GMT

    Oh, the Ashes. Yaaawwnnn.

  • Shane75 on September 23, 2010, 21:03 GMT

    It's going to be a cracking summer of cricket - I can't wait for the Poms to land and the excitement to start building. Definitely won't be 5-0 like last time, now it's much more even - as long as the weather holds we're looking at a very close series.

  • synergy on September 23, 2010, 19:57 GMT

    I think Stacy Collins is over estimating the prowess of the English team. The batting is very brittle and out of sorts except Strauss, bowling although fairly OK in the english conditions will not be the same in Australia with the exception of Swan. English team may have 6 series win behind them when they land there but that will not make any difference and England will loose the series maybe 3-0 at least.

  • ricky111 on September 23, 2010, 19:15 GMT

    england will lose 5/0 , if no rain because you can see how they bowl on flat pitches, anderson cant swing the bowl out side england,broad is gun barrel strait,and the poor champ finn who only has bounce but you are playing against aussies not pakistan or bangladesh,aussie like boune they are not afraid of it. the only hope in bowling is swaan, but he alone cant take 10 wickets and the aussie will have a plan against him unlike pakistan who gave 6 wickets to north in 1 spell. i dont need to comment on english batting, it was exposed by declining asif and a left armer aamir who had not played 10 matches before the series...... oh sorry forgot the main thing they wont have news of the world on there side in australia! i hope australian media does the same do them...............

  • pianofan on September 23, 2010, 19:09 GMT

    I think leaving out Shazad is a mistake, but on the whole the team is not bad. Panesar is surely just there in case Swann breaks down. My biggest concern is Petersen. If it was up to me I would drop him right now until he regains form in other than international matches. Everything I read about the man tells me he is only interested in himself. He could become a real liability if the selectors have not got the guts to drop him.

  • buggyboy on September 23, 2010, 19:02 GMT

    If you look at Australia's last two defeats in test series at home (West Indies in 1992/93 and South Africa 2008/09) the two things that stand out are that both the West Indies and South Africa had a brilliant fast bowler that demolished the Australian batting line-up. Curtly Ambrose and Dale Steyn. England don't have a bowler of the standard of Ambrose or Steyn so they're going to have to find a way to utilise their bowling attacking in an original and effective way. We already know Anderson struggles when the conditions don't suit him. Swann will play a very important role but hes not going to be a big wicket taker. Off spinners traditionally don't take a lot of wickets in Australia. Just look at Murali. So that put a lot of pressure on the young bowlers in the England squad to put pressure on Australia's batting.

  • kalimantan on September 23, 2010, 18:53 GMT

    Can the Pakistan 'supporters' leave us alone now please. Series over, you can go home now. We're done with your paranoid whining act, its the south africans and kiwis next for you. OK?

  • on September 23, 2010, 18:39 GMT

    One thing is common between Shahzad and Rashid. That is also common with Amir Khan the boxing champ. Its their Pakistani cricketing heritage in particular and sporting prowess in general and having been brought up playing in England. Some say that Amir had threatened to box for Pakistan. That led to his selection for the olympic squad. Maybe thats what these two should do i.e. threat to play for Pakistan, India, South Africa etc etc. But then they will be target for The Sun or the NOTW for so called spot fixing. That will bring Ijaz Butt to defend these two by accusing England team or some other team. And then that will mean Kettlebourugh, Gould and Doctorv will have to save the series for England with biased umpiring. Pads will be thrown by Trott and police might have to be called before the toss unless the opposing team is magnanimous which will be refuted by chairman of players assoc. Complicated? Leave it! Shahzad and Rashid help Strauss and Collingwood practice in the nets.

  • vaks on September 23, 2010, 18:25 GMT

    it'll b hard for England to win the Ashes in Aus...at now itself Aus r very strong in Aus against any opposition..but still it's gng to b an interesting series....with close results such as 3-2,2-1 with last test being the ashes decider.....

  • pakwellwisher on September 23, 2010, 18:25 GMT

    I hope the english team wallops the aussies. The aussie team now looks more debile than ever before. Good luck to the english team.

  • on September 23, 2010, 18:11 GMT

    Cant belive adil rashid gets left out and doesn't even make the performance squad. ajmal would have taken wickets with the reversing old ball. tremlett, broad, finn are too similer and anderson is inefffective when the ball isn't swinging. i predict ausie win.

  • AJ_Tiger86 on September 23, 2010, 18:05 GMT

    This is by far the best squad in world cricket. England will destroy Australia this winter, just like they have destroyed Pakistan this summer. England to win 5-0.

  • 158notout on September 23, 2010, 18:05 GMT

    There has been a lot of tripe written here. Personally I support the Monty call - Rashid had his chance to get established last winter and messed it up, another season of county won't harm him - and spinners come on later anyway. Tremlett or Shahzad? Personally the novelty of England fielding Trem, Broad and Finn all together is enough but I do feel sorry for Shahzad.

    Funniest quote so far is from Posted by James Jaganathan: "Teams like Australia, South Africa, Pakistan and India have some good Quality backup fast bowling options. England is still in search of of Good quality backup fast bowler."

    Someone ought to tell India they have some quality fast bowelers, they have been searching for them for ages!!!

  • usmankhan001 on September 23, 2010, 17:54 GMT

    aus 5 - 0 englnd go aussies and dont for all the english fans dont waste your time discussing the team selectn because whatever the selection is , the result will be 5 0

  • butterhandsfingers on September 23, 2010, 17:51 GMT

    The comments against Trott on here are a disgrace, don't get your knickers in a twist because he stood up to somebody trying to destroy cricket. Can't believe Monty is in the squad, it's gonna be hard enough to win in Oz without him dropping the drinks

  • azid on September 23, 2010, 17:41 GMT

    ashes result 5-0 these so called england champions cant win matches against Australia i know result is similar like last ashes series in Australia my full support goes to Australia because they win matches because of their strengths not because of their media if england want to win ashes they should go with their own umpires and dirty gutter media

  • Trickstar on September 23, 2010, 17:39 GMT

    @Faraz Ali You think England have been bad hosts for Pakistan,jog on joker,if it wasn't for the ECB you'd have nowhere to play,but you ballsed that up,with your scum of the earth match fixing and just generally being disrespectful .I'd hate to imagine the outcome if England had been in Pakistans position and the Pakistanis had invited England to use their country to stage home tests and their conspired to spot fix and match fix.Biggest slap in the face the Pakistanis could have ever done and you have the cheek to moan about bad press etc ,well you deserve everything you get.

  • j-t-9-5 on September 23, 2010, 17:37 GMT

    can't believe Shahzad has been left out I thought he would be a better pick than Tredwell given the difference in standard of cricket they play. Its good to see monty back into the england set up even though he is unlikely to play. I also feel sorry for Rashid, he deserves his chance. I hope England win :DD:D:D:D:D

  • gmoturu1 on September 23, 2010, 17:30 GMT

    wow this is gonna be a one hell of an Ashes series. england wins 2-1. swann and morgan gonna rock australians

  • GHemrajani on September 23, 2010, 17:27 GMT

    Good squad. I think Tremlett gives England the edge. My prediction for the Engalnd squad for the first test: Strauss, Cook, Trott, KP, Collingwood, Bell, Prior, Broad, Swann, Tremlett and Anderson.

  • leo787 on September 23, 2010, 17:24 GMT

    I read somebody tried to use swann and murli name in one sentence,,,,,,,,,,,,damnnnnnn Iam offended swan is not even born in front of murli.......swann is only good bowler and thats it I SAID THATS IT......

  • vipin.chaudhary2325 on September 23, 2010, 17:20 GMT

    This ashes will be great if pietersen, trott, morgan, strauss bat well, england bowling is fine, swann is fantastic, broad and anderson can be leathal on their days.... I wonder Andrew flintoff should have played this Ashes and should have taken retirement after this series, or he must have played 2-3 matches in this Ashes, like 1st 3rd and 5th test match, because even if he get hurt, he get enough days to recover, England chances are 4/10.. Australia will come hard at England, beware England

  • bharath74 on September 23, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    shazad is unfortunate, adil rashid is gud vt bat but they need a better spinner than him, so panesar.

  • on September 23, 2010, 17:06 GMT

    THIS MIDDLE ORDER OF ENGLAND HAVE SHARED VERY POORLY AGAINST PAKISTAN AT THEIR OWN PITCHES. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO FACE FULL STRENGTH AUSTRALIANS TO WIN THE ASHES, NO ONE KNOWS. THE RESULT SHOULD BE 3-0 OR 4-0 WITH NO CHANCE FOR ENGLAND TO WIN ANY MATCH. ONLY PLAYER TO PUT ANY PERFORMANCE IS SWANN OR STRAUSS UP TO CERTAIN EXTENT. REST ARE NOT GOING T O STAND THE PRESSURE OF AUSSIES MIGHT.

  • on September 23, 2010, 16:46 GMT

    James Harris' 63 wickets not good enough for the development squad? He's been firing front line batsmen all summer. What does he have to do? Don't tell me - move to Surrey.

  • Aston_Villa on September 23, 2010, 16:45 GMT

    No Rasid and no Shazad,is it because they have Pakistan links or is it because everyone in the England set up is as straight as the jalebi. Miller should be ashamed of himself on leaving them two out,

  • on September 23, 2010, 16:39 GMT

    England seam attack won't have the help they get at home, fair point. But true Aussie pitches are the same for both teams. Ashes series will be about who bowls best on a flat track. That's down to heart, stamina, patience, consistent line and length, and confidence. England have the confidence of winning six series off the reel, a minor world title, and being the current Ashes holders. The squad has threat from more angles than last time and a successful Captain (should have been captain last time down under). England don't put all their hopes in a saviour like Flintoff to bat, bowl, slip-field, captain and drive the team bus anymore. Or hide behind a fearsome reputation like that of Harmison. Plenty can do the heavy lifting across the squad; few luxury items in the suitcase like Panesar (I'm saying that as a Sussex fan) and KP. Plus they play for each other, field well and get on well. All we should expect is that England give a good account of themselves and give the Aussies a game.

  • Ramesh-IT on September 23, 2010, 16:38 GMT

    How on earth can England depend on Panesar as second spinner? He is one of the players who never improved their game since debut. As usual every time he's been hit for a boundary, he'll bowl the next ball with extra 10kmph speed and watch the ball racing away for another boundary.

  • 2.14istherunrate on September 23, 2010, 16:36 GMT

    Ashes squad is really no surprise. It's good Tremlett is there as he is tall and quick. The fact that the performance squad is so near is convenient as Shazad could still get called in. The lack of not just Rashid but any leggie in Australia is daft. Where better to go as a leggie? And Bopara? Otherwise it is a reasonable squad. It slightly worries me that one or two people do not think Div 2 players should be in the squad. Would that mean that any current player whose county went down in Sept should lose their place? Mental!!!

  • JulesUK on September 23, 2010, 16:36 GMT

    We need Tremlett for his height because Broad and Finn are tiny aren't they?! Very very harsh on Shazad.

  • synergy on September 23, 2010, 16:15 GMT

    I agree with stark62, Broad & Trott will be taken to task iby the aussies. Both of em are the bad guys of International cricket and in the aussie land they will miss the friendly media to back them up. Here I have a doubt if they will try to behave like cutters because the aussies are the masters of this craft and their media will be after their heads. I do sincerly wish that the english team is beaten all ends up which looks like a certainty because of their weak batting. I also do not like the aussies but when they play England I always support them not only because the aussies are better than England but also because they make English team look like minnows. All the trotts and broads will forget their on field tantrums because the aussies are the masters of this art. I really would love to see the english tam look like a lost cow in the aussie land.

  • Stark62 on September 23, 2010, 16:10 GMT

    Oh yeah! If the ball is reverse swinging (which is likely) then whose gonna take the ball?

    Shazhad can reverse swing the ball with a white ball so, imagine with a red cherry and why has Rashid been left out?

    Is it because they are British Pakistani or is it because they are "rubbish" and had a "poor season"?

  • on September 23, 2010, 16:06 GMT

    Addition of Tremeltt is a good decision because Anderson and Broad are overloaded fast bowling options for england. Teams like Australia, South Africa, Pakistan and India have some good Quality backup fast bowling options. England is still in search of of Good quality backup fast bowler. Their New ball attack heavily depend on Anderson and Broad. They have found Steven finn who is bowling well but still he needs some coaching to match Anderson's class. Tremeltt has a good height which would be an advantage for a fast bowler on bouncy tracks. It would be great if Tremeltt and Finn are given good coaching and advice so that they would reduce the load on Anderson and Broad. All the best Tremeltt and Finn hoping for you to do a great job for England team. Expecting to see them in ODI's too...

  • jonesy2 on September 23, 2010, 16:04 GMT

    oh dear ahaha i look forward to this sorry bunch getting a fair old fashioned belting!

  • r1m2 on September 23, 2010, 16:03 GMT

    If Finn, Tremlet and Broad play in the same match together, will that be the first instance of 3 pace bowlers 6'5" or above playing together? It's just a question of height I'm asking. I know these bowlers are not really world beaters yet or if they will ever be. I think these three should not play in the same match, as all three have similar level of threat. Aussies are not too scared to play bounce. Only way to get them is by swing, but Jimmy's gonna stink it up for sure, so I don't see any hope for the English pacers down under. The real threat for Australia will be Swann.

  • on September 23, 2010, 16:02 GMT

    this team i bet will lose all matches in ashes and there is nothing like doctrove that dunt pakistan every match will happen there.. i think i will be reversed to England and thay will lose all the matches :((((((((((((

  • Cric_roxxx on September 23, 2010, 15:49 GMT

    Unfortunately for England, there wont be English Media and Billy Doctrove so Aussies will thrash this squad 5-0 :)

  • on September 23, 2010, 15:47 GMT

    England annonce The Ashes squad, tremlett n Monty panaser r d surprise inclusion..its going to b 1 huge battle

  • Tigg on September 23, 2010, 15:47 GMT

    My only gripe with the main squad is Bresnan. It's all very well having all rounder cover when you have an all rounder in the first 11 (Century aside, Broad isn't an all rounder yet). but his bowling just isn't good enough at test level. He'll struggle in Aussie conditions due to his reliance on swing and absence of pace. Surely we can't distrust our batting to the level where we would play a top-6 followed by a keeper who would make it in the side as a batsman himself and then an all rounder at 8.

    I'd liked to have seen James Harris and Chris Nash in the performance squad. I like Plunkett, and I think he has an international future but his form this year hasn't been great (40wkts@37) and Harris has done better than Dernbach, Tremlett and Chambers. Nash scored three 150's in five innings towards the close of the season and his last one was just devastating. he's a match changing opener who deserves a shot.

  • on September 23, 2010, 15:45 GMT

    English team needs their 13 players on the field to win against aussies including Billy Doctrove.

  • Stark62 on September 23, 2010, 15:41 GMT

    Even though I hate the aussies, I hope they beat eng, I hope their media taunts the english team like they did against Pak and the ump's make biased decisions against the english!

    Also, why is it that windies ump's make biased decisions against sub-continent teams? bucknor against Ind and now doctrove against Pak!

    Hope broad and trott get a taste of their own medicine!

  • Wesley1 on September 23, 2010, 15:38 GMT

    Right the point of the performance squad is so that if there is an injury, a replacement can step into the main squad. Does anyone think danny briggs or tredwell could play against australia? How on earth can the leading wicket taking spinner can be left at home. Rashid has the raw skill to take wickets at every level. England say they are trying to avoid a "schofield" situation, but how demoralising must it be to be left at home all the time? They are ruining his career by not playing him at all

  • on September 23, 2010, 15:37 GMT

    Yardy's not in the squad as they're keeping him back for the World Cup (which directly follows this tour). It's a good squad nevertheless, however I wouldn't have Tremlett in my side. We have Finn, therefore Tremlett's selection IMO is mooted. Also, I'd have Shahzad rather than Bresnan. I wouldn't mind sacrificing a bit of batting for someone that can reverse swing a ball pretty early at 90mph and be a decent first/second change bowler (leaving Anderson and Broad to take the new ball and Finn as first change).

    Chances are neither Tremlett or Panesar will actually play (unless there's a spinning pitch, then Panesar may be played) as the team's strong enough without their inclusion. England though have a balance quandary.

    Nevertheless, it should be a good series! November 25th peoples, put it in your diaries!

  • bumsonseats on September 23, 2010, 15:34 GMT

    as a redrose supporter how can adil rashid and amjal shahzad not get into the test squad and the leggie not make the other. how will sitting on his backside in bradford do him any good. hes taken 50+ wickets playing in the 1st division and on a leeds wicket and panesar playing 2nd division in sussex has taken less, and the guys a better bat than broad or swan.I thought they would pick bresnan but why iv know idea. dpk

  • the-rover on September 23, 2010, 15:32 GMT

    Tremlett has not got the heart, and Panesar is a joke selection. If either of these 2 make the team we will get whupped big style!

    Yet again we go with the tried and failed instead of the young and eager. Rasid can bowl better than Panesar and has the added advantage of being a good bat and he is an excellent fielder. Shazad gets a kick in the teeth after all summer being in the squad, he has a disjointed season going here there and everywhere, bowling for Yorkshire 1 day then in the England party the next then back to Yorkshire in the afternoon!!!!

  • chilecricketer on September 23, 2010, 15:31 GMT

    What on Earth has Rashid done wrong? I think that you need something a bit special to succeed as a spinner in Oz and its no wonder they produce more leggies than us.... it works! That aside, he is young and can bat! To not make the Performance squad even is an outrage and suggests political motivation..... Who´s missus has he been "talking to" !

  • on September 23, 2010, 15:29 GMT

    There is only one thing common between Shahzad and Rashid, which is also common with Amir Khan the boxing champ, their Pakistani cricketing heritage and brought playing in England.

    Some say that Amir had threatened to box for Pakistan before he was picked for England. Maybe thats what these two should do.

    But then they will be target of The Sun and the NOTW for so called spot fixing. That will bring Ijaz Butt to defend these two by accusing England team. And then that will mean Kettlebourugh, Gould and Doctorv will have to save the serie for England. Pads wlill be thrown by Trott and police would have to be called before toss.

    Oh it is getting very complicated. Lets leave it like that. Shahzad and Rashid giving bowling practice to Strauss and Collingwood.

  • on September 23, 2010, 15:23 GMT

    What does the squad say about the strength of the two division championship if half come from Division Two? (and they all come from Surrey, Middlesex or Sussex - only one of those teams went up!)

    What does Rash have to do to get picked - though I suppose that means my beloved Yorkshire won't have to pick him up off the floor from another winter of carrying drinks!

    Panesar - might play at Adelaide, the only two spinner pitch is the SCG.

    Tremlett - only cover for Broad or Finn

  • jokistan on September 23, 2010, 15:18 GMT

    Not good enough to win the ashes. This side can win the one day series, but will lose the ashes.

  • SaifQazi on September 23, 2010, 15:15 GMT

    as far as i know a bit of Australian conditions, i think u want an out an out fast bowler. n i suspect the selectors have missed a trick by not selectin Ajmal Shahzad. his bowlin is ideal for Australian ptiches n he has the ability to reverse swing the ball at sum real pace. Tremlett, with all due respect, is not an attackin option, rather a line n lenght bowler. i am afraid, Tremlett with all his experience wudnt find the conditions suitable. if u translate 48scalps @20 into Australian cricket actually means 25scalps @35 or even 40. with Broad n Swann bein the Go-to man for Strauss, Ajmal in the ranks wud had always kept the captain open to reliable options, considerin they r playin Australia, not in England. past experiences suggest, only ATTACKING cricket cud win u in Australia. lookin forward to a closely fought Ashes. Cheerz:)

  • on September 23, 2010, 15:15 GMT

    Panesar has a chance of playing in two tests at the most - SCG and Adelaide Oval. Tremlett is obviously their in case Broad or Finn goes down.

    Fuming about Dilly Rash....but all the better for my beloved Yorkshire...they won't mess with his head again!

    But more importantly what does this say for the two divisional county system when half of the squad play Division Two cricket (Strauss, Morgan, Finn, Tremlett, Pietersen, Prior, Panesar and Davies) - or is it just the fact they are from the three counties that surround London?

  • Trickstar on September 23, 2010, 15:11 GMT

    @Uzi-Khan I agree that Shahzad should be there instead of Bresnan but to say Finn is a 3rd rate bowler is total rubbish,especially considering where the Ashes will be played and what kind of bowler Finn is,I personally think Finn will do very well down in Australia.Finns figures are far superior to Shazhads as well,Finn in tests averages 23 and in first class averages 28,Shazhad averages 32 in first class.I Finn is a 3rd rate bowler,I'd hate to think what that makes Shazhad.

  • Doctor_Scrumpy on September 23, 2010, 15:08 GMT

    Should be a good series, least we know the Aussies won't cheat the public by throwing games.

  • Yasi_Gee on September 23, 2010, 15:07 GMT

    Is this the end of international cricket for Ravi Bopara? I think he had enough chances (for an Asian origin player). I am surprized that Rashid and Bopara are not even in the performance squad but happy for Monty.

  • India30 on September 23, 2010, 15:06 GMT

    where the hell is adil rashid????? although its a good selection...atleast rashid should be in the performance squad....he had a successfull season as an allrounder....

  • gloves71 on September 23, 2010, 15:04 GMT

    Well done Danny Briggs - IOW boy!!!

  • on September 23, 2010, 15:04 GMT

    dont follow county cricket but from the stats rashid should've been picked...however him being a pakistani might have had an influence on the decisions...can we see another twitter outburst from an england player anytime soon???

  • on September 23, 2010, 15:02 GMT

    A decent squad and really looking forward to the Ashes tussle. Feel very sorry for Rashid though. What's he done wrong?

  • azaro on September 23, 2010, 15:01 GMT

    Yes it seems weird that Rashid doesn't get a look in he must have done something awfully bad to one of the selectors since he clearly can't be left out for cricketing reasons! I agree that Finn will get battered, he has everything the Aussies like in their bowling machines and more, Finn and Bresnan do nothing for the attack in Ashes games down under...Shahzad would have been better cover. The batting really picks itself but to win Bell has to come off - gone were the days when Pietesen can get away with playing the Aussies across the line and the talented Morgan needs more experience which he will probably get of course.

  • on September 23, 2010, 15:00 GMT

    I am literally shocked that Adil Rashid has not been named in either the Test or the Development squads. Here's a leg-spinner, who also happens to be the leading English wicket-taker this summer - taking 57 wickets @ 31 whilst averaging 45 with the bat - but somehow he's not good enough? The selectors need their heads examined. He should've gone as back-up tp Swann, let alone the Development squad. Poor call by Miller and co.

  • CricketingStargazer on September 23, 2010, 15:00 GMT

    Hmmm. Adil Rashid. Odd... What more does he need to do? Maybe the selectors are saying that they do not consider him ready for Tests yet and so prefer to check out someone else in the Performance Squad who will not be under the pressure of being seen as a reserve for the Tests. Overall though I agree with the Test squad, although poor Ajmal can consider himself a little unfortunate. Whether Tim Bresnan wil be a strike or a stockl bowler in Australia is an open question, but he certainly has earned the chance, although *NOT* taking him because of doubts about his penetration would have shown a ruthless streak in selection.

  • on September 23, 2010, 14:47 GMT

    Guys, TREMLETT s back n thts a huge news.. This s the best possible team England cud hv evr tried havin at the recent times!! Happy to see Tremlett back.... He ws jus thrown out after a brief stint... If Finn or Bresnan get a lookin in the 11, thts too much partial....Jus need TREMLETT back in the playin 11...

  • synergy on September 23, 2010, 14:46 GMT

    Trott will find the aussies more bad mouthed than him, and my advise to him will be to try and use his bat more than his ugly mouth failing which the aussies will mule him. He may also find batting difficult on hard and bouncy aussie tracks.

  • SirBobJones on September 23, 2010, 14:41 GMT

    Yardy mustn't be too highly regarded in the longer version to not make either squad. No mention of Harmison, Hoggard and Mahmood this time round. Not that he'd be up for consideration, but what's Alex Tudor been doing the last year or two?

  • on September 23, 2010, 14:39 GMT

    Who has Rashid offended, I wonder, to merit being left out of both squads? I can see why he didn't make the first 16, but not in the development squad ? ... crazy.

  • m.imrankhan76uk on September 23, 2010, 14:39 GMT

    I am pakistani cricket supporter (when they play properly @@@@) but I love watching this current england squad performing and beating the likes of Aus and SA. hope they will do them aussies in their own yard. wish them best. good to see Monty back in there. and Shazad might have been better backup instead of Tred... but anyway main party is solid and will do good as long as they stay confident. I think current aussie squad is not only inconsistant but also lacking star power in their bowling departing for sure. So again good luck england

  • Shan1028 on September 23, 2010, 14:39 GMT

    England should make sure Billy Doctrove is there to avoid a 5 zip thrashing.....

  • allblue on September 23, 2010, 14:38 GMT

    What is it with the selectors and Rashid? I understand that there was a decision made to let him have a full season with Yorkshire as part of his development, and he responded well with wickets and runs in both the first division of the County as well as the shorter forms. But then to blank him out completely this winter? Is there something going on there that we don't know about?

  • MOHAMMAAD-HOTWAREZ on September 23, 2010, 14:37 GMT

    england will lose ashes very badly as they only play good in seaming conditions which is seen only in their home england so england will lose ashes.

  • Something_Witty on September 23, 2010, 14:35 GMT

    I'm sure they'll have a wonderful time sitting on the sidelines watching as the series whistles by without them. Does anyone honestly think that Panesar is going to get a game when England are banging on about Swann as if he's their very own Murali?

  • on September 23, 2010, 14:34 GMT

    I m pakistani Supporter but i allwyz want England win Ashes

  • alexbrowne on September 23, 2010, 14:28 GMT

    Now I can see why Geoff Miller/the England selectors are the subject of so many foul mouthed Twitter tirades - Rashid not even in the performance squad and Tremlett comes from nowhere to make the Test squad at the expense of Shahzad, who has worked hard all summer and shown his ability at a high level rather than at the bottom of the Championship 2nd division?

  • on September 23, 2010, 14:26 GMT

    Hope the Aussies spank the england team, i still cant get over what terrible hosts they've been (cough Trott cough)

  • WilliamFranklin on September 23, 2010, 14:23 GMT

    I'm not convinced Bresnan is up to it at the highest level, but very happy Tremlett has made it.

  • on September 23, 2010, 14:22 GMT

    very gud squad but i think Australia will still win the series....!

  • on September 23, 2010, 14:19 GMT

    How many Umpires to go along with the team to help Collingwood and Strauss?

    why oh why Trott?

  • on September 23, 2010, 14:19 GMT

    OZ 5 - 0 winning again.INSHAALLAH

  • BellCurve on September 23, 2010, 14:17 GMT

    Monty is ineffective on hard, bouncy wickets. His stint in South Africa earlier this year was painful to watch. He once got lucky against aggressive Australian batting in Perth and took eight wickets. They're not going to make the same mistake twice. Moreover, he can't field, can't bat. England selection remains clueless. When will they learn that in sport aptitude, hunger and aggression go so much further than attitude, experience and personality? But then again, Monty will be carrying the drinks and cheering from the sidelines; so maybe he is a better pick than Rashid.

  • sundal on September 23, 2010, 14:12 GMT

    Watch out guys. It wont be swinging dynamite english pitches anymore and it wont be pakistan's baby batting line up anymore. Am sure Anderson/Broad/Finn all will get serious beating around the park. Swann will be thrashed n puched around. Lets see if Broad and Trott get aggressive against aussies as they did against pakistan. And dont forget... Its englands turn to face Aussie Media now. Aussie Roxxx

  • Adhiqarie on September 23, 2010, 14:09 GMT

    KP will surely dominate Aus..!!

  • dkirby on September 23, 2010, 14:08 GMT

    Has Adil Rashid run over Geoff Miller's dog or something?

  • parrett on September 23, 2010, 14:07 GMT

    Am also completely mystified as to Rashid's exclusion from the Performance squad - has any explaination been given by the selectors? Rashid has had an excellent season for a top Div 1 team and surely merits selection

  • on September 23, 2010, 14:00 GMT

    Are they gonna take panesar along and not play him again?

  • Uzi-Khan on September 23, 2010, 13:58 GMT

    Steven Finn will get battered.....better off having Ajmal Shahzad......quick, accurate and quite lethal.

    Finn is a 3rd class bowler.

  • on September 23, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    Can anyone tell me how Tredwell gets in the performance squad ahead of Rashid? I'd have had Rashid in the full squad ahead of Panesar.

  • on September 23, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    i am a paki supporter but for ashes i support england and i am very happy penesar is back.

  • Rockyali on September 23, 2010, 13:53 GMT

    Good to see KP back hope he gets runs good Luck English Team ahead of a tough Ashes Series. !

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  • Rockyali on September 23, 2010, 13:53 GMT

    Good to see KP back hope he gets runs good Luck English Team ahead of a tough Ashes Series. !

  • on September 23, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    i am a paki supporter but for ashes i support england and i am very happy penesar is back.

  • on September 23, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    Can anyone tell me how Tredwell gets in the performance squad ahead of Rashid? I'd have had Rashid in the full squad ahead of Panesar.

  • Uzi-Khan on September 23, 2010, 13:58 GMT

    Steven Finn will get battered.....better off having Ajmal Shahzad......quick, accurate and quite lethal.

    Finn is a 3rd class bowler.

  • on September 23, 2010, 14:00 GMT

    Are they gonna take panesar along and not play him again?

  • parrett on September 23, 2010, 14:07 GMT

    Am also completely mystified as to Rashid's exclusion from the Performance squad - has any explaination been given by the selectors? Rashid has had an excellent season for a top Div 1 team and surely merits selection

  • dkirby on September 23, 2010, 14:08 GMT

    Has Adil Rashid run over Geoff Miller's dog or something?

  • Adhiqarie on September 23, 2010, 14:09 GMT

    KP will surely dominate Aus..!!

  • sundal on September 23, 2010, 14:12 GMT

    Watch out guys. It wont be swinging dynamite english pitches anymore and it wont be pakistan's baby batting line up anymore. Am sure Anderson/Broad/Finn all will get serious beating around the park. Swann will be thrashed n puched around. Lets see if Broad and Trott get aggressive against aussies as they did against pakistan. And dont forget... Its englands turn to face Aussie Media now. Aussie Roxxx

  • BellCurve on September 23, 2010, 14:17 GMT

    Monty is ineffective on hard, bouncy wickets. His stint in South Africa earlier this year was painful to watch. He once got lucky against aggressive Australian batting in Perth and took eight wickets. They're not going to make the same mistake twice. Moreover, he can't field, can't bat. England selection remains clueless. When will they learn that in sport aptitude, hunger and aggression go so much further than attitude, experience and personality? But then again, Monty will be carrying the drinks and cheering from the sidelines; so maybe he is a better pick than Rashid.