The Investec Ashes 2013

Lehmann puts batsmen on notice

Daniel Brettig

July 15, 2013

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Darren Lehmann and Michael Clarke chat while training, Worcester, July 1, 2013
Darren Lehmann has put the onus on his batsmen, especially the top order, to revive Australia's Ashes campaign © Getty Images
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Australia's batsmen have been placed on notice by their coach Darren Lehmann, who declared after a memorable first Test match in charge that the team's long-standing and disproportionate reliance on their bowlers for major runs must end if the Ashes are to be won from 1-0 down.

Last-wicket stands of 163 and 65 almost carried the tourists to victory at Trent Bridge, but as on the India tour earlier this year the late-innings heroics contrasted starkly with failures further up the order. Lehmann said that while Australia had proved they could worry England, his batsmen were the major difference between victory and defeat, most glaringly at their first opportunity when slipping to 117 for nine before Ashton Agar's world record union with Phillip Hughes.

"I think we've done enough to show this is going to be a really close series and we've just got to capture those key moments," Lehmann said. "And I think if you look back on the game, we've certainly got to bat better as a top order. That's probably the key. We're going to bowl very well and we know we can control their batters. It's a matter of making more runs."

"Our tail has done really well over a long period of time now but it's time for the batters to make sure they're making the runs and giving the tail a bit more time. I think we only batted for 63 overs (sic 64.5) in the first innings and 110 in the second. We've got to be reversing that about, batting for 120 overs plus in the first innings of a game and making our runs then."

No one symbolised this issue more distinctly than the No. 3 batsman Ed Cowan, twice swishing his wicket away with cover drives that did not correspond to his commission as an obstinate occupier of the crease. Others like Shane Watson, Chris Rogers and Steve Smith did not go on from starts, and even the captain Michael Clarke struggled to assert himself at No. 4. Lehmann said Cowan in particular had tried the patience of the selectors with his choice of shots.

"He had a tough game," Lehmann said. "We've told Ed how we want him to play and how we want him to bat. That certainly hasn't changed from when he first came into the side, I would think. Having not known what's happened or what's been said before, we picked him to do a role. He'll be disappointed with the shots. So are we."

"That's just part and parcel of what we're about, we're trying to learn and get better. I'm sure he'll get better at that as well. Like everyone's position, you've got to make runs and perform. So we'll sit down as a selection panel over the next couple of days and work out what we think is the best XI to play the next Test match and work from there."

Having been appointed as the team's coach only two weeks before the series began, Lehmann said he would not be over-emphasising technical advice by way of a remedy to the batsmen's deficiencies. Instead he pushed the concept of each player knowing his scoring areas against each bowler, and demonstrating belief in the methods that had brought them this far.

"I don't like tinkering with techniques too much as a coach," he said. "It's more about getting a game style you want them to play to particular bowlers. And if they do that and play in certain areas you want them to play in, we're going to be okay. From my point of view it's about managing them and what they're thinking and how they're going to play in certain situations the best you possibly can when you've got time. But you've got to remember I've been in this job for two and a half weeks, so it's a case of just doing little bits and pieces at a time."

In keeping with the selection secrecy that shrouded Agar's debut, Lehmann kept his options as open as possible for Lord's. The pacemen Jackson Bird and Ryan Harris are both expected to come into serious contention for spots, while the option of playing five bowlers will also be discussed by Lehmann and the selector on duty Rod Marsh.

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Posted by   on (July 18, 2013, 8:23 GMT)

if australian top order batsmen scores then aussies have a great chance of winning the second test at lords....

Posted by Shaggy076 on (July 18, 2013, 2:54 GMT)

siddhartha87 ; Probably because the bowlers batting averages are above Khawaja and Cowans on this tour with the added benefit of being able to bowl. Agar, Siddle, Pattinson, Faulkner all seem to be in better form with the bat.

Posted by siddhartha87 on (July 17, 2013, 11:25 GMT)

OMG some of you have been really funny. 5 specialist bowlers??? no way.Why Cowan should bat at no 3?? he should be kept as back up of Watson. Wonder why Khwaja is still not given a chance. Khwaja should bat at 3

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (July 17, 2013, 8:49 GMT)

I know that nobody is going to agree with me here but I would bat Ashton Agar at number 6, as a batting all rounder, and counter it by having James Faulkner at number 8 as the bowling all rounder. Then get rid of Cowan. The fact of the matter is that Usman Khawaja is not in great form and if the bowlers are getting the runs why not go with your strengths?

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 7:27 GMT)

@Brusselslion, yes! Ponsford, that's who we need and Trumper at no.3 please!

Posted by mangom on (July 17, 2013, 2:51 GMT)

Im sure people wont agree but personally i think Australia should consider stacking the team with their strengths (fast bowlers) instead of weak batsmen. Especially with the recent history of it not being an uncommon sight of see a break down in the aussie pace attack.

Sure it would be risky, but time and again now the batting has just not performed and has had to be supplemented by contributions from the bowlers.

I always got the impression Cowan was in the team as an opener to see out the new ball, but rogers is currently a far better player.

Posted by Jagger on (July 17, 2013, 2:09 GMT)

Khawaja has failed at international level time, and time again. No more chances. Boof coaches him at QLD so he knows he is not up to the standard. Usman Khawaja is the wost fielder ever to represent the Green and Gold. Should not be picked under any circumstances.

Posted by RodStark on (July 17, 2013, 0:13 GMT)

It's amazing that some (presumably Australian fans, unles they are English fans having a troll) keep suggesting bringing in players who aren't in the touring party, let alone those who have retired. Maybe England should check on the availability of Ramprakesh?

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 23:48 GMT)

I'm pretty sure that if the Australian selectors wanted Simon Katich in the next test they could pick him. I mean, they can pick whoever they want can't they?

Katich, a career #3 for NSW, would be absolutely fantastic. A double ton for Lancashire last week you know?

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 22:41 GMT)

Bring in George Bailey for Cowan. Move Hughes to three and bat Bailey at six.

Posted by popcorn on (July 16, 2013, 19:13 GMT)

How muh longer will this genuine Number 3 Usman Khawaja have to wait till he gets picked? Ed Cowan is an opener NOT a Number 3.And he has failed.I will be shocked if Usman Khwaja does not get picked as Number 3 in place of Ed Cowan, particularly because Boof knows how well he plays - Boof was Coach for Queensland where Usman Khaja played. Khawaja was selected in the Ashes Squad for his sterling performances for Queensland. Enough of stepmpotherly treatment to Khawaja.

Posted by brusselslion on (July 16, 2013, 16:13 GMT)

Lets face it, Australia have as much room for maneuver in their batting as England have in their bowling i.e. not much. Cowan out looks an obvious one. Otherwise, why not keep it as Trent Bridge? Everyone except Cowan & Clarke (who will come good at some point) contributed at some stage. Biggest question to my mind: Where do you play Hughes? Thought he'd cracked it at 6 after the 1st innings but based on the 2nd?

@electric_loco_WAP4 on (July 16, 2013, 6:12 GMT): You could also bring back the Chappell brothers, the Waugh brothers & Border. In fact, why stop there? How about the ghosts of Bradman and Ponsford?

Posted by Chris_P on (July 16, 2013, 15:33 GMT)

@ Benkl . Both Katich & Hodge haven't played shield cricket for a few seasons. Hodge has effectively retired from first class matches whilst Katich only plays in the country competition. Rogers, again, was again one of the leading run scorers in the Sheffield Shield competition.

Posted by James_Murphy on (July 16, 2013, 14:38 GMT)

@PFEL lol the odd couple!! Cowan is done, in Faulkner and Bird for Cowan and Starc. Faulkner is interesting because he offers reasonable gritty batting, and can bowl swing, seam or cutters depending on the conditions. On slow wearing pitches he will be a nice option for some variety to back up Ashton. I like Harris as an option however I feel Pattinson and Siddle and Harris are all too alike, medium fast gentle outswing and Siddle and Pattinson have proven themselves over time in that role. Bird however offers another piece of variety to Clarke with his nagging lengths and subtle variation. I vaguely remember McGrath may have taken 8-38 at lords??

Posted by crick_wizard on (July 16, 2013, 14:07 GMT)

I am not sure if it is a good idea to put players on notice in the middle of a series and put them under even more pressure...if you loose faith in a player after one match, why pick him in the first place for the series?

Posted by Shaggy076 on (July 16, 2013, 12:20 GMT)

Benkl where did you get that from. Chris Rogers played the most recent shield season. Katich did not play at all last year and Hodge hasnt played for three years. Your post is wrong.

Posted by whofriggincares on (July 16, 2013, 11:51 GMT)

@ Tom_Bowler, Cowan a scapegoat? Don't be ridiculous. Yes coaching is about unity and motivation but it is also about honesty. Cowan lost his spot opening and rightly so and I am guessing he was given a very specific role at 3 which was to dig in and fight like all get out. "limited and diligent" you say ?Mate if those two shots he played to lose his wicket were diligent then I would hate to see him being cavalier and reckless. I have been an admirer of his fighting qualities in the past but it is time to leave him out for good. I know he was ill and he might feel hard done by , but we must get a solid and regular 11 together if we are to have any chance of stretching the English in these 10 matches. Top order stability is so important at any level of cricket unfortunately we don't have a ready made number 3. Clarke must go back to 5 and Khawaja or Warner at 3 , I really think Warner could be suited at 3 especially if he is coming in after a solid opening stand.

Posted by Benkl on (July 16, 2013, 11:38 GMT)

Shaggy076 Katich and Hodge played shield the last time Rogers did ( and scored more)

Smith has batted well the last few tests why would your drop him.

Hughes must stay where he is he has been hopeless in other positions

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 11:16 GMT)

Spot_on you are spot on, I thought starc should not have played 1st test and only got one legit wicket in second innings, Faulkner sayers and bird definitely should come in, I felt Pattinson might be ok to stay and might've just had one off game but I'd be happy to see bird replace to support agar.

Posted by BillyCC on (July 16, 2013, 11:04 GMT)

Cowan is the worst batsman ever to play for Australia. Qualification: Minimum 15 tests.

Posted by siddhartha87 on (July 16, 2013, 10:55 GMT)

Warner should be given a chance. He is good player of pace.Did well against the proteas too.Khwaja is another good option.May be they should drop Smith and bring in warner and khwaja for the 2 nd test.Most of the people like to see see Hughes out of playing xi but he has the potential. My Xi for 2nd test-

1. Rogers 2. Watson 3.Khwaja 4. Warner/Smith 5. Clarke 6. Hughes 7.Haddin 8. Siddle 9. Agar 10. Starc 11. Pattinson

Posted by spot_on on (July 16, 2013, 10:55 GMT)

I'm just amused that Nobody talks about bringing in James Faulkner and Jackson Bird in place of Starc and Patto.. both liabilities ... This batting line up anyway can put up 200+ total... but Faulkner, Bird,Siddle and Agar together can wrap up the Poms for under 150 in every innings..

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 10:54 GMT)

One thing I noticed about Cowan is, it seems when he bats out a maiden its not deliberately seeing off new ball or bowlers spell, but his lack of skill at capitalising on scoring opportunities which makes him get frustrated and looking to force the scoring, and getting out.

@Jono maybe you're right but I'm sure they will field ok and Hodge bowls nice offspin, but yes its unrealistic team. try this for test 2. 1. Watson 2. Rogers 3. Khawaja 4. Smith/warner/Hodge 5.Clarke 6. Hughes 7. Haddin 8. Agar 9. Siddle 10. Sayers/pat 11. Bird give Hughes captaincy, just not Clarke

Posted by inefekt on (July 16, 2013, 10:15 GMT)

Wait, Lehmann is begrudging his batsmen for performing miserably in this test match and then we hear that he and Rod Marsh are contemplating playing five bowlers? They realise this will WEAKEN the batting right?

Posted by Shaggy076 on (July 16, 2013, 10:07 GMT)

Katich and Hodge are not playing shield cricket and shield cricket must be a pre-requisite for playing test cricket as such they are unavailable (as good as retired). So give it a rest people they are never going to play again.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 10:06 GMT)

Cowan, Rogers, Watson, Smith, Clarke, Haddin, Agar, Siddle, Starc, Pattinson Lyon.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 9:57 GMT)

The problem, at the moment, is that Australia has 5 opening batsmen in the team .... Rogers, Watson, Warner, Hughes and Cowan.

Rogers is too old, Watson too frail, Warner has no temperament, Hughes has no footwork and Cowan .... he's just Cowan. I like Cowan and I wish they let him open in the 1st Test.

The situation is quite astounding when you have a closer look ..... all are from NSW or played for NSW. Then add Clarke, Smith and Khawaja and incredibly it appears as though the players from other states do not matter.

Then looking down the order .... Australia does not have a specialist No.3 batsman, Australia does not have a specialist No.4 batsman. Australia has a specialist No.5 batsman that they want to bat at No.4, Australia did have a specialist No.6 batsman .... he retired and Smith is doing OK in that position. I think that he had a falling our with Ponting/Clarke.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 9:48 GMT)

@Rowan Tyson, they may make a few more runs, but seriously, you need some guys that can field a bit too. They can't all stand in the slips! That team would get thrashed.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 9:46 GMT)

Pathetic batting performance from the top order masked by runs from the tail. Ed Cowan is the worst batter I have ever seen play for Australia and yet he has played 30 tests. This was a tailormade situation for a player of his reputation and he gets out wafting at Joe Root. He does not rotate the strike putting pressure on his partner. He has a reputation for being gritty but I see him time and time again throw his wicket away when Australia needs him most. This was a game Australia shouyld have won. They only needed to see off Anderson and the easier runs were there. I doubt the English attack will be so onedimensional for the rest of the series.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 9:36 GMT)

Australians lacking in batting form and confidence, I'm not sure why, perhaps there will be a turn around soon. I'd much prefer younger ones coming in test side, for fresh energies, than persisting with Cowan, but I'd still keep Rogers because he adds a sense of Stability, infact, I would suggest another experienced batsman, like Hodge, he is a champion, despite his lack of FC games recently, he just oozes experience. Clarke, despite his 2012 results with the bat, relying predominantly on his 4 double centuries, is, in my view, the centre of negativity in the side, the only way I would keep him in the side, is as a specialist batsman at number 5... I would not put him up the order, and I would not persist with him as captain. Katich has not retired, neither has Hodge, and he even put his hand up. 1. Watson 2. Rogers 3. Katich 4. Hodge 5. Clarke 6. Hughes 7. Paine(or whoever is the best Specialist-Keeper) 8. Agar 9. Siddle 10. Sayers/Pattinson 11. Bird Starc is out.

Posted by Santosh_G_Vashista on (July 16, 2013, 9:24 GMT)

Aussies are under performaned again, their batsmen have lot of pressure from CA, is causing the team performance. they definately loose Ashes. Next match England picks up like anything & really dominate on Aussies

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 9:23 GMT)

The batting line up needs to change ! I would drop cowan and replace him with Phil Hughes for number 3. Then Khawaja and then clarke. Depending on how rogers perform ( he should be given the series to decalre himself as a test player ); then you could consider warner in that position. I would not change the bowlers around too much. I would like to see steve smith bowl.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 9:08 GMT)

Watching Ricky Ponting bat yesterday in T20, I was thinking Aussies did the phasing out of player too early.. There were too many variables and without fixing many of them they let Hussey and Ponting go.. That's the one which is hurting them badly.. Aussies are not able to replace Warne and Glen.. and add to that Hayden, Gilli, Ponting and Hussey.. So basically full batting and bowling is gone.. I don't see with the pitches now a days predictable, I don't think with current one dimensional attack of Aussie, they can win matches... If the pacers of Aussies can get the English batsmen out, then 9 out 10 times, Jammie and co will get Aussies out.. If Jammie can't, Spinners will.. Aussies are lacking X-factor. Clark's captaincy will be tested.. He needs to pull the team with his performance in 2nd test... as if he can't do that without his performance in 2nd test, then Aussies will be looking for 5-0 drubbing.. Aussies must plot Trott and cook out, else its 5-0 for sure..

Posted by naren1983 on (July 16, 2013, 9:03 GMT)

Instead of looking for Ryan Harris or Bird, Australia has to look for proper batsmen to grind the innings and score runs. The only proper batsmen left is Khawaja in the selection. Australia have another choice, put Haddin up the order since he is already in good form and stay for long time. It doesn't mean that keeper has to bat No. 7 only, then in this case, put Haddin in place of Cowan and bring Ryan as No. 7 batsman who can score runs if Australia feels Khawaja is not a proper batsmen. Only thing if Australia wants to win Ashes, they have to bat longer and score big hundreds. Hope this combination will work. 1. Watson 2. Rogers 3. Haddin 4. Clarke 5. Hughes 6. Smith 7. Harris 8. Starc 9. Siddle 10. Pattinson 11. Agar.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

@TheRedLeb, you speak the truth! Its funny isn't it that with the worlds best swing bowler, offspinner, wicketkeeper/batsman and three of the world's best batsmen that England could be no.3 in the world. It can only be an anomaly in the rankings system. ;)

I think you are right and wrong about Watto though, he can probably play the bully boy opener role with some distinction give an extended run without injury, but he'd never pull off the no.6 role I don't think. Smith looks ideal for it however and should be left to grow into the role, he plays spin well and as we've seen he can switch between modes of defence and attack. Watto is capable of none of these things and he most definitely only ever seems to be concerned about his own role, though I think some of that is down to the media doing a lot of the talking for him.

Posted by BellCurve on (July 16, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

In all seriousness, Lehman would be better than Cowan. That Cowan has earned 18 Test caps is beyond me. It is so obvious that he is not up to standard. Please for the sake of sense and honour, drop Cowan. Send him home.

Posted by cccrider on (July 16, 2013, 8:56 GMT)

Cowan has had a mountain of chances. He should go, immediately and permanently.

Posted by Captain_Crick on (July 16, 2013, 8:55 GMT)

My XI for 2nd test: 1. Watson 2. Rogers 3. Cowan 4. Hughes 5. Clarke 6. Smith 7. Haddin 8. Agar 9. Pattinson 10. Starc 11. Siddle

Team is unchanged but batting positions altered. Moving Clarke back to his #5 position where he has scored massive amount of runs. Hughes promoted to #4. Cowan gets one last chance in this series.

Posted by Green_and_Gold on (July 16, 2013, 8:55 GMT)

Great work Boof - this is the coach being honest and up front about what he expects from hit top order and what they can expect if they succeed/fail. Good management being shown. Its now up to the top order to tell the selectors that they belong where they are.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (July 16, 2013, 8:24 GMT)

Its funny you belt someone get suspended left out of the teamand suddenly you become a champion. No one remembers your average form. Warner would have been touch and go to play even if he wasn't suspended.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (July 16, 2013, 8:04 GMT)

@Tom_Bowler, I assume you are talking about Cowan, as would hardly call droping a player from opener to first drop being shunted down the order, however I can see your point about cowan not being 100% fit, which really begs the question why was he selected to play, especially with Hughes who is also an opener in the squad and Khwaja being on par with Cowan.

Posted by Wefinishthis on (July 16, 2013, 7:59 GMT)

As I said BEFORE the first test and after a lengthy discussion with ScottStevo about 'Mr. average 33' Starc, both Cowan and Starc are dead weights and that Jackson Bird and Ryan Harris should have been in the team for the first test. There is NO WAY that Starc is a better test bowler than either Bird or Harris - so why they're only now coming "into contention" I don't understand. It just shows how little the selectors understand about cricket. My XI would have been: Rogers, Warner, Khawaja, Hughes, Clarke, Smith, Wade, O'Keefe, Pattinson, Harris/Siddle, Bird.

Posted by Tom_Bowler on (July 16, 2013, 7:45 GMT)

I thought Lehman was supposed to be the great uniter and motivator. How does that fit with singling out a limited but dilligent player for criticism after one poor match in which he was shunted down the order and played while not being 100% fit? I don't care personally, the Aussies can scapegoat to their heart's content as far as I'm concerned, I just think that after one match it's a bit early for cracks to start showing in the facade.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 7:32 GMT)

Whatever may be the permutations and combinations Australia try out, the fact remains that their battle is at its brittlest. Except Michael Clarke there is not one player that can reassure a nervous dressing room in this line up, whereas England has the luxury of having at least two possible( if not already) 'all time greats' - KP and Cook in its line up. They also have efficient back ups in the form of Bell and Prior to fall back on in case of a collapse. The lower order too cannot rescue the Aussies time and again. The fact that they have plucked out Chris Rogers , a veteran for the series shows their desperation. They don't have batsmen who can graft session after session, which is required in test cricket. They don't have batsmen who can see out the swinging ball. A 4-0 whitewash beckons , however hard they may fight.

Posted by TheRedLeb on (July 16, 2013, 7:26 GMT)

Following on from my earlier mail this Aus side needs to find a "rock" who can bat at 6 and hold the middle order together that job should not be left to Hughes (a reworked opener) or Smith (who seems to be happy to do the work no-one else wants to) In my opinion for this Aus side to be a force again this role needs to fall to Watson as the 2nd most experienced batsmen behind clarke in the side he needs to learn to bat 6 and ave over 40 for Aus (he needs to become as important to aus as Hussey or Waugh were in the glory years) ... he wants to open where he can bat without any pressure and be aggressive without the situation dictating things ... As an outsider he strikes me as a very selfish cricketer who plays for Shane and the accolades he can earn rather than putting the team first ... Best Aus line-up for Lords for me would be 1) Rogers 2) Katitch - clarke needs to eat humble pie 3) Hughes 4) Clarke 5) Khawaja) 6) Watson 7) Haddin followed by the bowlers

Posted by hotcric01 on (July 16, 2013, 7:19 GMT)

Faulkner in for Cowan.That is a better replacement.Faulkner is twice better than Cowan as a batsman and a fielder ,with the ball he would even match a front line bowler.

Posted by TheRedLeb on (July 16, 2013, 7:18 GMT)

As a neutral, I'm a South African, although it would appear that the Sky commentary team of ex-Eng captains save for Mr Holding seems to have forgotten about us and it seems that Mr Anderson has miraculously leapfrogged 6 places to #1 bowler in the world and that this ashes series is for the world title ... nevertheless that grip aside it was enthralling Test Match and the game was there for the taking if Aus had a middle order that could have held things together ... the simple fact is if Aus had Mike Hussey batting at 5 or 6 in this game they would have won the test convincingly in my opinion

Posted by Bockee on (July 16, 2013, 7:18 GMT)

Watson, Rogers, Katich, Clarke, Hughes, Smith, Haddin, Agar, Siddle, Pattinson, Bird.

Khawaja is just as weak as Cowan, we need a rock at 3 and the Kat is eminently qualified. Bird has the precision to utilise the slope at Lord's, the wayward Starc making way.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 7:06 GMT)

My team for 2nd test. 1. Watson 2. Rogers 3. Hughes 4.Clarke 5. Khawaja 6. Haddin 7. Smith 8. Siddle 9. pattinson 10. Bird 11. starc

Posted by ARID88 on (July 16, 2013, 7:05 GMT)

plz replace khawaja wid cowan plzzzzzz cowan is not a player wid gud technique we want a player who plays cinfidentally

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 7:05 GMT)

Watson (last chance), Rogers, Khawaja, Clarke, Hughes, Smith, Haddin, Agar, Siddle, Pattinson, Bird.

If Watson fails again then Wade for third test at 6 with Hughes opening.

Posted by Gdesai on (July 16, 2013, 7:04 GMT)

@Ahamed Fazil: Absolutely spot on! You have captured by belief perfectly mate!!

Posted by Eyepop on (July 16, 2013, 6:51 GMT)

LORDS: 1) Watson 2) Rogers 3) Khawaja 4)Hughes 5) Clarke 6) Smith 7) Wade 8) Agar 9) Pattinson 10) Siddle 11) Bird - Cowan 12th man.

The first test was an interesting contest but certainly far from a brilliant match between two sides at their best. Lets hope nerves settle and we start to see these two sides play at their respective best.

Khawaja deserves a consistent chance. Its a shame to drop Cowan after one test but keep him in the group as 12th.

Wade over Haddin, even tho Haddin put in a solid performance and is VC. Wade is strong exciting young blood which is the stuff that gets under the skin of the Englishmen...

Let Bird fly... I liked his consistency and professionalism the last time he baggy greened up.

Posted by kir.vas on (July 16, 2013, 6:33 GMT)

Australia still have better players to bring this ashes home. Only the problem with the selection. Warner and Watson should open the innings. 3 Chris rogers. 4. Michael Clarke. 5. George Bailey 6. Haddin 7. Smith (all rounder) 8. Starc. 9. Ashton Agar 10. Siddle 11. Pattinson.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (July 16, 2013, 6:12 GMT)

Well ,just 1 hypothetical 'selection' . A bit wierd to bring it up ,but replace Watson in Aus top order with the mighty Matty Hayden in the Trent Bridge test . Ok, I am not even suggesting Hayden be brought back now, the Hayden even 4 years back when he was towards the end of his fading powers would have put this current Eng attack to sword . When a Watson can dominate the Eng attack ,mostly with new ball for a 100+ p'ship imagine Hayden would've done?Just 1 difference instead of the Watson trademark 40 and/or get out 1st ball after a drinks break , we'd have seen Hayden's usual 150+ opening the inngs and after getting into 40 odd .There you go - a 7 wkt win for Aus with Haydos making more than 1/2 of those . And ,off course about 1/2 of his runs in his fav. Eng bowler Jimmy's runs conceded column and 1 or 2 wkts to show for -:)

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 5:44 GMT)

I would like to see James Faulkner come in for Ed Cowan n bat at No.7.. It certainly gives Australia more options. Ed Cowan seems to be confused about what his role is in the side. Faulkner is a very good all-rounder who gives it his all. Not to forget he is an excellent fielder. Would love to see Michael Clarke batting at No.3. He can control the game from there. Ideally you want ur best batsman at 3. Watson and Chris Rogers did fairly well at the top of the order. Im sure they will want to convert their starts to much bigger scores. Philip Hughes was good in the First Test. But he will also be aware that he will also have convert his starts. Steven Smith is a fighter and there is something about this young lad.

The bowling speaks for itself. I thought all the three fast bowlers were excellent. Ashton Agar has impressed one and all with his attitude. He bowled well in patches.. Im sure he will only get better from here. If Faulkner is included it gives Clarke another option.

Posted by seawolf on (July 16, 2013, 5:41 GMT)

i think, AUS should keep the same team no matter they loose again because in the past 4 years or so hardly 11 players played together for aus in two or 3 test matches under a captain. it is very important them to set as a team which can really push the performances. either injury or change due to non performance was so frequent which spoiled AUS out put in tests even after having talented replacements in every departments since 2006/2007 who ever retired. Ponting and clarke has been facing this, so now since 11 players fit let them play again, let them find them selves in a team as a team. i am sure they will come back in well, if a change is must situation then either haris or bird in for cowan, to make the bowling strong to put ENG in lower score where AUS batsmen can chase.

Posted by gibbs.175 on (July 16, 2013, 5:24 GMT)

I think ...Mathew WADE....should be called for cowman ....or Khawaja

Posted by ARID88 on (July 16, 2013, 5:20 GMT)

cowan has not best of technique to survive in these cnditions his confidence is not upto such level which he has to show in this high profile test series you should replace him wid khawaja aur warner bowling is ok for aussies but they should solve cowan place the major position one down place

Posted by slow.mo on (July 16, 2013, 5:14 GMT)

Is Matthew Wade with the squad? Everyone seem to forgot that he can bat a bit as well.

Posted by kohomban on (July 16, 2013, 5:13 GMT)

The Australian bowlers gave them 20 extras,but England bowlers gave only one run,that's the difference between two teams.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 5:03 GMT)

Cowan 1 more chance or needs to go, to be replaced by Usman Starc 1 more chance or out, Bird in

Posted by Babu22 on (July 16, 2013, 4:47 GMT)

@vsssarma. Sorry, but no computer system in the world can simulate what goes on in cricket. If all you look at is the averages, then you would go nowhere. Yes Smith, Hughes and Haddin average in the 30's. But the game they played here is commendable. And FYI, they average among the highest at the Shield level. About the bowlers, they have taken 20 wickets in this match at a reasonable average, better IMO than England bowlers who conceded over 230 runs for the 10th wicket (which is more than what England scored in their 1st innings). By your same logic, none of them should play the next match? And you seriously believe that Aus do not have a computerized system, similar to what you are talking about? If cricket starts getting governed by computers/averages/statistics, then it would go to dogs.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 4:42 GMT)

One issue for the Aussies has been the selection of certain Test matches based purely on their ODI or 20/20 achievements. Test cricket will very quickly weed out flawed techniques. The Aussies issues in India came from selecting way too many allrounders in Test team , Maxwell, Enriques, and Watson should never ALL be in the one Test team....Faulkner falls under this umbrella as does Steve Smith. Khawaja has a very nice technique but at Test level has been "out thought"....he needs to "see" what the team opposing him is setting to get him out. There was no better example of this than in the last Ashes series when he was in the mid 40s and Swann set a trap for his sweep shot. Sure as hell, Khawaja got out trying to sweep Swann....out-thought! Bird could be the x- factor in this series if he gets selected. He moves the ball both thru the air and off the pitch, perfect for English conditions.

Posted by C.Gull on (July 16, 2013, 4:03 GMT)

I think Cowan will be given one more match. If he doesn't perform, the most likely replacement is Warner, although I don't really either he or Khawaja have earned a place in the side. At this point, I'd bring in Voges who's in the country and scoring runs. For the bowlers, I'd look at Bird for Starc but not rush into that change either.

Posted by Moppa on (July 16, 2013, 3:54 GMT)

Hmmm, where to start...? @AKS286, if Lyon and Wade are "Clarke's boys", why aren't they in the team? Re Marsh, see comments from various others re his Shield stats. However, I do agree with you that Lehmann can't bat or bowl - he's the "coach". @vsssarma, minor correction, Bird has 11 wickets from *two* matches. @KARNAWAT33, I don't think an unprovoked punch makes Warner 'fearless'. However, I agree that he will feature in this series soon, maybe the 3rd Test. @rtruth90, yes, good point, it would be nice to have a couple of batsmen like Hussey and Gilchrist. Have you found any lying around? @Jose Puliampatta, 'rebuilding' and throwing out a mature, reliable opening batsman is exactly what got Australia into this mess. Rogers did well and should be given an extended range, irrespective of how old he is. For those eulogising Katich, yes he was unlucky, but let's not go all 'grass is greener on the other side'. Rogers is essentially the same quality, and two years younger.

Posted by PFEL on (July 16, 2013, 3:20 GMT)

what about Simon Katich replacing Cowan? They could just keep him and Clarke on opposite sides of the dressing room, like The Odd Couple.

Posted by OneEyedAussie on (July 16, 2013, 3:01 GMT)

Cowan's average is marginally better than Pattinson's and Starc's. Cowan does not bowl and is not a particularly amazing fieldsman. He has been persisted with because he was an Arthur/Clarke crony. Cowan is likely to get another game at Lords because (AFAIK) there is only one other specialist batsman on tour and he has hardly been breaking the door down. But surely if Cowan cannot get over 50 in one of the two innings his time must be up?

Posted by RDLikesCricket on (July 16, 2013, 2:38 GMT)

Rogers and Cowan are similar type of batsmen. Why not use Khawaja instead of Cowan? There is no harm in trying him and backing him for the remainder of the series. Giving Warner a stern warning but keeping him in the side would've been better rather than banishing him to Africa for a A tour. BTW, not sure why Bailey is not considered test material. He would've been a decent pick. But guys, you've shown very good promise in the 1st test and i reckon u will give all fans a wonderful demonstration of good cricket. good luck to the aussies..

Posted by AidanFX on (July 16, 2013, 2:33 GMT)

The Australian batting line up is presently that vulnerable it is at the point that dropping a Batsmen for another Bowler is not a bad idea I'm not sure it will make a huge difference; often the runs come from the tail anyway. I like Cowan - he is a decent batsmen but I think for now he has to go. Watching him in the second innings it was like he was deliberately trying to hand his wicket away - chasing balls well outside off stump which the bat a meter away from his body. On the issue of the umpiring - Clarke (and I think he admitted this to the press) needs to use DRS when there is very good reason to review. Reviewing the Trott (irrespective of what you all think about whether it was reversed rightly or wrongly) LBW to Starc was a good call - every other appeal to DRS was awful. So the umpires can't really get the key blame, as much as missing a nick to slips is hard to believe.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 2:12 GMT)

Ridiculous treatment of the highly talented David Warner. Why isn't he coming in at 3 to replace Cowan? The no 3 position will suit Warner's stroke-play. After Michael Clarke, a bit of daylight and then Warner & Watson are Australia's most talented batsmen now that Huss has also retired.

Posted by PFEL on (July 16, 2013, 1:55 GMT)

Australia are sending their golden goose away in David Warner, keeping a useless club-level batsmen like Cowan in the national side

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 1:50 GMT)

Alot of batsman got starts but failed to go on, Phil Hughes made 81* which was the best of the batsman for Aus in any innings... The only ones who failed completely were Clarke and Cowan... Clarke has proven he is the best batsman in Aus (up there in the world) and won't be kept to scores like that for long, which is a very good sign for australia.. Cowan however was sitting on the edge before that and has surely dropped off it. Khawaja isn't the messiah some believe him to be but the time is now for him. No. 3 is actually his preferred position (Hughes, Marsh, Quiney, Cowan, Watson were all openers) and he needs to come in and hopefully make runs there...

Warner might be plan c for the 4th test...

Posted by MeijiMura on (July 16, 2013, 1:32 GMT)

Given that Warner is playing in Zimbabwe while the 2nd Test is being played at Lord's it rules him out of the selection process.

The one change I would like to see made is the exclusion of Cowan for the inclusion of Faulkner.

I like the look of Rogers, Watson, Hughes, Clarke, Smith, Faulkner, Haddin, Agar, Pattinson, Siddle and Starc in batting order.

The inclusion of Faulkner removes the need for Watson to bowl so he can concentrate solely on his duties as an opening batsman. Furthermore it strengthens both the batting and bowling departments and gives Australia something England doesn't have, an all-rounder and a quality one at that!

The Aussies will look to win the toss at Lord's, bat first and bat long and run both Anderson and Swann into the ground, knowing that England have nothing else in their bowling stocks to trouble them.

Australia, on the other hand, have plenty of bowling options to worry England.

Posted by KhanMitch on (July 16, 2013, 1:27 GMT)

Sunil for me Khawaja has earned his chance. Khawaja was averaging 40 by the christmas break and with nearly 450 runs was second to Hughes on the shield table in terms of run scoring. He got 2 man of the match awards with a century against Tasmania where he outscored them on his own, couple of 50s against NSW in a very low scoring game and a 80 odd on his deut for the Bulls where the Bulls were put in by the Redbacks on a green Gabba deck. The classy leftie scored in tough conditions 3 out of 5 games and then was picked in the Aussie squad after which he was not allowed to play any shiedl games and he continued to be the 12th man or drinks person till now. Khawaja did what was ask of him and that was to go to the Bulls and improve his game, and he has done that. He is not being picked on potential but runs and runs on tough tracks which we can do with now. Cowan has had enough chances, its time for Khawaja to shine.

Posted by MigratingBirds on (July 16, 2013, 1:15 GMT)

I think Australia need a Wall, that can stand tall despite losing openers.

Posted by hmmmmm... on (July 16, 2013, 1:02 GMT)

The decision should have made itself before this test - Cowan is not and will never be a test number 3 bat. After Rogers and Watson had made a strong start, Cowan came in and pretty much froze the innings...it completely changed the momentum and revived England's attack. He has to go and Uzzie in at 3....unless the pitch is going to spin I wouldn't move hughes any closer to the new ball. I also have no idea how anybody could consider Wade a specialist batsman - that he is not, selectors please note - he is a lower order bat who can swing the willow in ODI's if required but not a top order test player!

watson, rogers, khawajia, clark, smith, hughes, haddin, agar, siddle, pattinson and harris for lords sounds a good lineup. Perhaps it's also time to call up another backup batsman or two to the squad.

Posted by hycIass on (July 16, 2013, 0:38 GMT)

I am getting excited at the prospect of Khawaja finally getting a game, he has been waiting since the boxing day test in Dec 2012 for his chance and he deserves it. I think if we can give him 4 tetss in a row he will establish himself, he doesn't need 19 games in a row that Cowan has had to establish himself. For thebowling read Border's comments that Harris is the man and i tend to agree, he is a dangerous bowler when on song and the only way to get him on song is to get him in.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (July 16, 2013, 0:28 GMT)

Also please I note a lot of people saying Marsh and Bailey these guys couldn't even average 20 in the Sheffield shield last season. Its performance at this level that gets you into the team and that is why the Hughes and Cowan got there spot in the first place. There are positions up for grabs namely Cowans but no one is grabbing it with the amount of runs required to be picked in a test team.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (July 16, 2013, 0:24 GMT)

Hughes averaged 80 in this game why is his spot even being questioned by some people?

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 0:19 GMT)

1. Top order batting problems are facts; which need correction through replacements.

2. Most national teams have bowlers who get the opposition's top 5 batsmen fairly fast; but struggle against the bottom half. Choice of the 'right' bowlers alone does not solve the problem. None seem to be capable of bowling yorkers, accurately and consistently. (Sri Lanka's Malinga is the only one who could do that; and even he is slipping.

3. Michael Clarke's Captaincy is far from satisfactory. He doesn't even know when to use DRS. Use (or lack of it, more precisely) of Smith in an attempt to break partnerships is appalling. Sending in Cowen ahead of himself is another one. Let me not start a litany of his 'errors'; it will be long. Hope he learns fast on the job. After all he is the only batsman in the line up, in the "old' class!

Posted by Chris_P on (July 16, 2013, 0:10 GMT)

@Anil Hanagud . "Rogers technique is dicey?" Do you understand anything about cricket? He has, fyi, a career average of 50+ over more than a dozen years of first class cricket. This season he was averaging 70+ in English county. You don't get those figures with "dicey" technique, let me reassure you. @vsssarma You see no reason not to bring in Bailey? Here's two reasons, 1) he isn't even in the touring squad & 2) last season in Australian first class he averaged 18.28. We are talking TEST cricket here, not one day matches. @rtruth90 There are no obvious replacements who are kicking down the door for selection. Hughes, btw, is only 24 years old, last season, in Australia he averaged over 50 with the bat. I would suggest that batting form is still the best criteria to select batsmen, ergo his selection. His first innings effort was full of grit & determination & he still got a 50/50 call against him in the second so not really sure why you have targeted him?

Posted by Cricket_theBestGame on (July 16, 2013, 0:02 GMT)

cowan, watson, hughes (shaun marsh) all have been given ample chances. give khawja ago Boof. he is QLD player and he has performed well under your coaching there.

and why is Katich out of 11 after playing so well since langer retired?!!!

shame on you clarke and CA for sidelining a player based on personal like and dislike of clarke !

Posted by Paul_Rampley on (July 15, 2013, 23:59 GMT)

Like most folks i agree that Khawaja should come in, give him the rest of the series and i am sure he will fire for us. Boof is doing a great job and the boys can hold their heads high for the fantastic fight they showed in the first test.

Posted by wellrounded87 on (July 15, 2013, 23:33 GMT)

Clarke has repeatedly failed at 3/4 yet excelled to unbelievable heights at 5. Why do we persist on trying to fix what isn't broken. Clarke at 5 should be given. We can recognise that Watson is at his best openeing yet we can't see that Clarke is best at 5 depsite averaging in the 80's at 5 and under 40 everywhere else. Cowan has to go and be replaced by either Khawaja or Maddinson to bat at 4 and Hughes to move to 3

If any bowler is to go it's Starc. He is far too wayward. Sure he delivers the odd unplayable but between those is 3-4 overs of loose crap. Just like Johnson.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 23:25 GMT)

I think and believe that Aussies will come harder in the rest of the remaining series and the result would be 2-1 to aussies...

Posted by Edwards_Anderson on (July 15, 2013, 23:21 GMT)

@f i am a big fan of Khawaja but i wouldn't put down Hughes and Marsh, as they are good talents as well. I would love to see Hughes, Khawaja and Smith fire for us this series. The lower order stood up (at times) and should be congratulated for that. Smith and Hughes batted will when the pitch was at it's best - not forgetting Agar, but let's remember that he is a bowler - and Chris Rogers looked good without really threatening to take the game away from England.

I don't know that Hughes is a number 3 - I think another match at 5 to let him get his confidence up some more and then stick him up there. Khawaja is the best number 3 in the squad and has batted successfully there for the Bulls and Blues so its time to give him his crack, he will fire for us if he can have 4 games in a row and boof knows this. Cowan had his chances, surely 19 tests in a row is enough chances.

Posted by Ducky610 on (July 15, 2013, 23:05 GMT)

I'm going into bat for Phil Hughes here... if it weren't for him all this talk about Ashton Agar would not be happening... Hughes played an incredibly measured Mike Hussey-like 80* and displayed none of his weakness against spin or rash stroke play that has dominated his game in India... He was unlucky to be out for 0 in the second innings, im sorry that WAS pitching outside leg ... But the fact that people are talking about dropping a guy that made 80* in the 1st innings is sheer stupidity

People picking Hodge, Marsh and Bailey, Hodge is RETIRED from first class cricket and Bailey and Marsh both average south of 40 in first class cricket where Hughes averages 44... I'm sorry but Hughes has better FC credentials than those blokes..

Lets look at Phil Hughes average after the first test... 80!! Clarke's... 11.5, Watsopn's 34, Rogers 34... Smith 34... Haddin 36... Cowan 7... We Better drop Hughes!! How dare he be the best of the batsman!!

Posted by GrindAR on (July 15, 2013, 23:01 GMT)

There are some options missing here for Aussies... Anyways, play Bird in the 3rd match... with Faulkner... rest two folks who is not improving and not performing consistently... JF is kind of good DW in timing... and his bowling... ... only 3 people in the current playable options... Watto, JF and Patti.... They make a formidable alrounder distribution. If Agar plays, he can provide/take support role. Somebody should ask him or put him to play his natural way than his 2nd innings type... some folks fail paying defensive, they will be formidable playing offensive, regardless of the situation. Thats how matches turn on its head like DW's 185 vs IND.... Lord's could be different, but cold not be half as unpredictable as Perth.

Posted by MinusZero on (July 15, 2013, 22:56 GMT)

Much is made of Cowan's 1 century in 18 tests, Watson has only 2 in 42

Posted by GrindAR on (July 15, 2013, 22:45 GMT)

#3 for Aussie continue to elude away... Warner lost his arm and leg of the trust... I did not see the brisk Warner for some time now... anyways, given the time for rotation, Wade/Usie can fit the bill. But have them go through net practice for atleast 5-6 hours in two days before the next one. Usie can also be handy bowler to change the ends of primary bowlers... Clarke & DL has to form 3 prong bowling strategy.... Bowlers have tooth this time... but making their bite felt is another thing. Eng 2nd innings could have been folded short by atleast 60 runs, if the miniature things are taken care of... like field placement for Agar and Watto..and for that matter for Starc... If you have the field setting right, Starc balls cannot be left out. Batsman has to make stroke or defend nasty... there is a possibility of flight out of bat, fielder close enough to catch. Same with Watto... You can try them in tandem Mr. Clarke.... they both put together talk different ball games in the same match.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 22:32 GMT)

why not play usman khawaja instead of Ed cowan

Posted by Amith_S on (July 15, 2013, 22:29 GMT)

Agree Sunil, surely Cowan has had his chances, 19 tests in a row, surely its time for Khawaja to get his chance, he has been on the bench since the boxing day test, can we just give this kid a go and stop finding excuses.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 22:20 GMT)

Eng played very poorly and still won. Aus were only spared a total humiliation by Agar's innings. If you are an Aussie selector, you must realise that tinkering = toast, radical thinking is required. I don't know much about Australia's reserves, but the selectors pulled Agar out of the hat and struck gold. He looks as good a batsman as anyone in that line up. He took two wickets (and should have had Broad as well), but it's going to take time for him to mature into a test spinner. How about selecting Agar as a batsman who can bowl, he's going to serve Australia for a very long time and is a rare talent. Put Hughes/Khawaja at 3 and Agar at 6, Lyon can then be accommodated. During the next few years Agar will become a genuine all rounder for long term. During this series Watson, Rogers, Hughes, Smith , Warner and Khawaja compete for 4 places. In the longer term, Australia need to start preparing for life without Watson, Rogers and Clarke.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 22:14 GMT)

Katich Katich Katich... where oh where is Katich

Posted by SirViv1973 on (July 15, 2013, 22:08 GMT)

@tony122, I think you have given a very accurate assessment of the 2 teams. I may be wrong but I see the rest of the series going in a similar way to you. Over the course of the 5 tests Cook, Pietersen & Trott will all make significant contributions. Broad & in particular Swann will also have their say at some point. I'm sure Clarke will make some telling contributions, but for Aus to post enough challenging totals at least 2 of their other top 6 will have to consistently get big runs & it's difficult to see that happening. In a strange sort of way Agar's contributions with the bat may go against Aus in the long run. Although Lyon isn't the best spinner in the world I would say he is far more of a threat than Agar at this stage of his career & Aus will have to stick with Agar for a while at least now. They could go in with both spinners but that would further weaken the batting line up.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 21:54 GMT)

Indians- Shaun Marsh will not be considered, and Warner is away on detention duty in SA. Khawaja will be in the 11, the only debate is where- 3 or 6. Lehmann I'm guessing would have faith to put Khawaja at 3, and he wouldn't want to risk Hughes against the new ball. We all know what the world's best batsman Chris Martin did to him, anyone rem c.Guptil b.Martin?

Posted by Blakey on (July 15, 2013, 21:11 GMT)

Watson has once again shown a complete lack of ability to resume from a break and given his wicket away after a good start. Rogers said that he would help Shane. He needs to make sure Shane won't be 'On-Strike' after a break in play! With-in the Australian second innings, this was the most culpable sin of all the batsmen as he was well set. The circumstances of the pitch demanded that any player who got a start had to go on to win the game.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 21:09 GMT)

They should have given one more chance to khawaja in the ashes. Players like Cowan, Marsh, Hughes are worthless. Khawaja has the better average than most of these players. He definitely deserves another chance.

Posted by KARNAWAT33 on (July 15, 2013, 21:06 GMT)

Shane Watson and David Warner at the top. Destructive, can take the game away from the opposition in an hour, fearless (ask Joe Root about the latter). 1 Down, Chris Rogers. Solid, experience, technically sound, confident, played well in the 1st test. Middle order: Clarke, Smith, Haddin, Faulkner. Clarke, top three in the world. Smith, competitive, had a good showing in the first test, cool head under pressure, buzzing in the field, can bowl a few leggies, future of Oz cricket I bet. Haddin, Man in form, 1st choice keeper for Oz. Faulkner, young, energetic, did well in the warm ups, can deliver with both bat and ball, Watson's successor for me. Tail : Agar, Pattinson, Starc, Siddle. All of them can bat decently, can contribute at least 50 runs amongst themselves at an average. Have done fairly well in the first test. Starc a left hander would be handy, deserves one more chance, Bird can wait for the 3rd test if needed. Patty & Sido - BRILLIANT. Agar - Needs to bowl better. #CMON_AUS

Posted by SirViv1973 on (July 15, 2013, 19:46 GMT)

@Sam Carr, I have to agree re the pointless posts from some Ind fans. Aus have 3 batting reserves in the squad, Warner,Kawalja & Wade. DW is off to SAF so he won't be considered until at least the 3rd test. Although there was some talk before the series that MW could play as a specialist batsman this would seem pretty unlikely at this point in the series, particularly since he has only had 1 knock of any note in the last month since the CT. Therefore I think the only batsman that can come in is UK. If Aus do bring him in then you would have to expect Cowan to be the man to go but the big conundrum would be do you slot UK straight in at 3 or do you push Hughes back up (just after making his best ashes score at 6) & bat UK there. Lehman has also spoke about playing 2 spinners which would surprise me at Lords. If Aus do go that way then you still think 3 quicks would be needed so PH would go to 3 & every1 from Haddin would then have to move up 1 2 accommodate Lyon which would be dangerous

Posted by Behind_the_bowlers_arm on (July 15, 2013, 19:43 GMT)

I know Agar and Smith were added after the initial squad was named but am bemused by the number of people picking random players out of the ether and putting them in Australia's Lords eleven. Cowan's selling point was his fighting qualities and stickability. At Trent Bridge he played two diabolical shots and wasted his time spent at Notts .... the words of Lehmann showed what he thought of that and think he has run out of chances. Khawaja has more talent and deserves the chances that Cowan has squandered. The only other change could be considered after seeing how the fast bowlers pull up and look in the nets on Tues at Lords. Harris and Bird you'd think both have the games to come into the picture on what should be a less sub-continent wicket.

Posted by rtruth90 on (July 15, 2013, 19:22 GMT)

Shame on Australia on giving so many chances to a very poor batsman such as Huges and Cowan who averages a mere 30's .There days in Australian team even if a batsman score with an average more than 50s in his career wont get a place in playing 11 as the competition was very strong. The best example is brad hodge, I really don't understand the mystery behind not giving Hodge more chances who has an average of 55 in test cricket and the guy is still playing some magnificent cricket recently in IPL with rajhastan royals. Its disgusting to see Australian selecters giving chance after chance to worthless players like Cowan, Huges, Shaun Marsh. Lastly I can't understand the under-performing Watson, who is so great in T20 and ODI Cricket but when it comes to test cricket he always flop same as Gayle with Windies. Australia really need 2-3 batsman like Hussey and Gilchrist then only they have the Chance to overturn 1-0 Ashes Deficit.

Posted by tony122 on (July 15, 2013, 19:21 GMT)

I believe England will be clear winners in the series. Lots of people are saying Australia made a close fight and this shows there is not that big a difference between the teams as many thought. Also that over reliance on Anderson shows England is vulnerable. But I think England did not play to it' potential more than Australia. Not every Test No 11 will make 98 especially on more challenging pitches. Australia premier batsman Clarke failed. But Australia just has one premier batsman! All three premier batsmen of England- Cook,Peterson,Trott more or less failed. Clearly England is a superior batting unit. In the bowling front English pace unit is only marginally inferior to Australia in talent but ahead on experience. Although Australian pace battery has more depth for sure. But with Swann England bowling unit is a little ahead overall as well.

Posted by vsssarma on (July 15, 2013, 19:00 GMT)

Bailey is batting so well in the ODIs that I see no reason why he is not brought into the test matches. Australia has serious batting and bowling woes. In batting, they are certainly missing Mike Hussey. During the last couple of years, MJ Clarke is averaging 75 with the bat and then what ? Warner and Steve Smith are averaging 38; Chris Rogers, Phil Hughes averaging 33-34. Haddin 31. Others below 30. Australia has very serious batting problems. Watson averages 24 in the last 7 tests.

Bowling is no better. Jackson Bird took 11 wickets in one test match and he is out. Lyon took 34 wkts in 9 tests; rested. Johnson took 15 wkts in 4 tests; rested. Siddle, Starc, Pattinson, Agar - can they take 20 wkts at reasonable average ?

I feel that Australia should have a computerized system like DMAC (developed by me) to identify and nurture potential at the Sheffield Shield level onwards. Otherwise, the mediocrity will persist.

Posted by Reececonrad on (July 15, 2013, 18:51 GMT)

I think that the next test should be a good indicator for how the rest of the series will go, we can tell if it will be a close affair or a roll over defeat for the Aussies. I think Watson is very talented, but consistently underperforming and still no-one at all sticking out there hand to replace him, he is also a very handy bowler. Cowan has to go, not a great technique, not mentally strong yet to be able to work his game around it, next best is khawaja has an average around 42 in first class cricket, which is not great but not in anyway terrible, he is still a solid player. Calling up Marsh, would be stupid because his form at first class level was poor, burns, maddinson, ferguson are just not ready for test cricket, bailey has not been in great form, Voges is a solid player, but not a great time to be thrown into the deep end. Warner another option? The bowling was okay but I feel someone like Bird would have a great impact with the line and length he bowls.

Posted by Rajeev129 on (July 15, 2013, 18:38 GMT)

I think Australia's major problem with their failures over last 2/3 years is bcz of that No.3 batsman. In every series their one-down batsman is utter flop, whoever it is - Marsh, Punter, Quiney, Hughes, Cowan .... even Clarke is not exceptional in that role.

Posted by AKS286 on (July 15, 2013, 18:21 GMT)

Shield cricket performances... interesting ! Except Punter all batsmen were failed to impress any selector. Marsh is the next Hodge, Rogers. Marsh is having exposure, experience, technique & temperament to play in International level. Voges, Klinger, Forrest are also good enough to replace Cowan & Hughes. Elliot, Maher, Love, Blewett, etc those days are gone. Starc another Clarke's boy is the worst test bowler of Aus. Harris, Hilfy, Bird, Coulter Nile, Cutting are ahead, Johnson the Punter's spearhead is axed. M.Waste, Lyon are the example of worst Clarke's boy. After the Whitewash (Steyn free) by POMS, SPD Smith must replace Clarke as a captain. Lehmann can't bat, bowl in the ground.

Posted by RandyOZ on (July 15, 2013, 18:14 GMT)

We can't afford to play 5 bowlers. One change - Cowan for Khawaja. His time is up.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 18:06 GMT)

Aussie team combination should read 1.Watson and 2.Warner to open, followed by 3.Roggers and 4.Clarke, Hughes at 5,6.Smith , followed by 7.Haddin, wish Johnson was there he would have been an ideal 8 and he is a fighter ( A bad selection given his form ) anyway so we have 6 set and then comes Aston Agar at 8. Followed by the pacies 9.Siddle, 10.Patinson and 11.Bird. This team can beat England, no doubt. England had been a 2nd innings team for a long long time. The only difference here is they have won the 1st teast, which will put pressure on the Aussies

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 17:53 GMT)

My Oz XI for the Lord's Test: Watson, Rogers, Clarke, Khawaja, Hughes, Smith, Haddin, Agar, Starc, Siddle, Pattinson.

Clarke is their best player, and the best player always should bat at No 3. Cowan unfortunately lacks confidence and I don't think he has the technique to bounce back from a sorry match he had. It's better to get Khawaja in and let him loose by saying he has got three tests to prove himself.

Rogers too should be on alert. Even though he did have a good second innings in the first test, his technique is dicey and, if I were Lehmann, I'd put David Warner on alert to get ready from the third test onwards.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 17:53 GMT)

My Aus team Watson, Warner, Marsh, Clarke, Madison, Haddin,Smith, Cummins, Pattinson, Starc and Agar. would be amazing they will prove for sure Unbeatable

Posted by AlanF on (July 15, 2013, 17:36 GMT)

Australia needs BOTH Middlesex openers. My team would be Rogers, Robson, Hughes, Clarke, Khawaja, Burns (not in the squad but in the UK), Haddin, Agar, Pattinson, Siddle, Bird. The first Test team had too many from NSW in it - NSW players are usually more concerned about their hair than their cricket, and Clarke was in that category too before he got dropped and came back. I'd have Hartley ahead of Haddin too, but he's not over there.

Posted by Bockee on (July 15, 2013, 17:32 GMT)

The 1st test showed that England rely way too much on Anderson and Swann. The top order needs to bat for a long time to expose the weaker bowlers. Cowan is suited to that but he's in shocking form. Of the others, Hughes seems best suited but is just finding his feet down the order, Khawaja is in miserable form and Warner is too impatient to grind out a long knock.

BUT: Australia have an experienced, battle-hardened no-nonsense top order bat who combines brilliantly with Watson, averages 45 in tests and was last man out for an even 200 in his last dig. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD: BRING BACK THE KAT!!

Posted by CricketChat on (July 15, 2013, 17:06 GMT)

More than batsmen, the bowlers disappointed for Aus letting Bell, Broad to put up that match winning partnership, after getting rid of the top order for not much in the 2nd innings.

Posted by Chris_P on (July 15, 2013, 17:03 GMT)

@HansonKoch. They can only pick players from the selected squad. Maddinson is back home, & believe me, he has a long way to go yet. @BrianCharlesVivek. "Sack Clarke bring in Bailey" You do realize we have a little competition down here called the Sheffield Shield, don't you? Last season, Bailey scored 256 runs @18.28 in first class. Help me understand how form like that can get you selected for any test team? Gary Jolliffe Pick Marsh? You do realize he scored 152 runs @ 19 in our last first class season, don't you? Is this the sort of shaking up you mean? Heaven help us!!! @SirViv1973. There are too few batsmen screaming to be called up or knocking the door down to be selected for tests. The cupboard is very bare, & I watch a lot of shield matches in Sydney.

Posted by Chris_P on (July 15, 2013, 16:51 GMT)

@AKS286. Shaun Marsh!! You are winding us up, surely. You mean the same Shaun Marsh who was dropped from the WA shield side last season? The same Shaun Marsh who scored 152 runs @19.00 in first class last season??? You do relaize we are trying to win games don't you? FYI, He wasn't even making runs in Perth grade when dropped form the WA shield team! Let him score enough runs in grade to be picked for the WA shield side, then let him score consistently for WA before even considering him for the Aussie side. @bloodlegion, I got to believe it was a gee-up!

Posted by 64blip on (July 15, 2013, 16:42 GMT)

Interesting Lehmann is happy with his bowlers. Presumably he thinks the 375 England scored batting third is going to be the exception, not the 215 they scored batting first. Personally I think it will be the other way round. I suppose they "controlled" the rate of scoring in England's second innings, but it's a five day match and in the end England overturned a first innings deficit and ended up with a 300 plus lead. It's a bit unfair to blame your batsmen for not breaking the Trent Bridge record run chase to win.

Posted by ddmumbaiindian on (July 15, 2013, 16:41 GMT)

All said and done, it is proven that being technically good or bad is lesser of importance than applying yourself in a specific situation. All Aus top order batsmen failed in applying themselves. Current line up is over dependent on Watson and Pup, both whom did not click sadly in first test. All batters should put their hands up and grind it out against Anderson & Co. They should aim at playing atleast one session without losing a wicket, as barring Anderson no other bowler looks life threatening. I was surprized to see how Aus batsmen danced to the tune of Swann, that is another factor DL needs to work on. Teach batsmen how to handle a quality spin. All in all, busy days on cards for DL.

Posted by KARNAWAT33 on (July 15, 2013, 16:39 GMT)

There is nothing spectacular of breath taking about what Boof said, but then again, what he mentioned was basics, Batsmen score runs, the tail supports them, the Bowlers take wickets and the batsmen compliment them in the field. If Australia are two retain the ASHES they've got to get their basics right. As far as team selection is concerned, well, I don't think Australia are going to make any changes, but looking at their recent, slightly turbulent (as compared to the past) ways, they might make one, if the selectors have run out of patience with Ed Cowan. I personally feel that, Chris Rogers should be playing at No.3, despite his impressive showing in the 1st test with Shane Watson and David Warner opening. As far as the bowling is concerned, I don't think any changes are needed. Mitchell Starc (lefty) should not be replaced with Bird, despite the latter's good showing in the warm up games, Starc should be given one more chance before that change (if needed). #Can't_wait_for_LORDS

Posted by VVSR92 on (July 15, 2013, 16:37 GMT)

aus do not have enough batsmen to score big runs in england excpet a couple in clarke,watson & maybe rogers to a extent . Instead of giving chances to hughes,cowan,warner etc they can atleast try out people with better technique like s.marsh,bailey,ferguson even though it is not a guarantee they score big they atelast are more likely to . With this batting line up its dificult to score 400+ & also to fight in ashes .

Posted by engrossed on (July 15, 2013, 16:34 GMT)

My Aus team: 1. Watson 2. Rogers 3. Hughes 4. Clarke 5. Smith 6. Warner 7. Haddin 8. Agar 9. Siddle 10. Pattinson 11. Bird

Batting: Attack up front-Solidity in the middle-Counter-Attack in the lower order-Bonus Runs late innings. Bowling: Better control with Bird, Smith to bowl 5-10 over per innings. Pattinson had a poor first game but he is a class bowler and will bounce back.

Posted by AKS286 on (July 15, 2013, 16:30 GMT)

Watson, Hughes, Marsh, Clarke, Smith, Haddin, Moises, Siddle, Pattinson, Bird, Agar. Clarke must be axed from captaincy. He axed seniors, favour his non- performers & don't know how to lead.

Posted by bloodlegion on (July 15, 2013, 16:14 GMT)

@AKS286..."Shaun Marsh is the ultimate man to replace Clarke's boy Cowan" Is this a some kind of joke??? The person who has a first class average of 35 after 77 matches with just 7 hundreds and whose Test average is even below Khawaja. If these are the stats of a world class batsman, than i am afraid we all have to change the definition of World Class Batsman-ship.

Posted by HansonKoch on (July 15, 2013, 16:14 GMT)

Khawaja for Cowan is a like for like replacement. Neither stands out. Let's blood the kid Maddinson. He can't be any worse than Cowan or Khawaja. And as for not being ready, I give you Ashton Agar.

Posted by stevieboy74 on (July 15, 2013, 16:10 GMT)

Cowan looked too nervous and out of his depth. Number 3 is such a crucial position and I think England fancy getting him out at any time. Never been massively impressed by Hughes but he seems to have matured and he must go up the order.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 16:09 GMT)

This must be one of those rare calls for Australian top order batsmen to do their job, but certainly a good call from DL. One of Australia's strengths has always been aggressive top order batsmen who can score big totals. I guess this is part of the reason the team finds itself well below par for an Australian team. Some shaking up to be done I think! Agree with the comment to bring in Marsh.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 16:04 GMT)

My Aussie team for 2nd test :.... 1) Rogers, 2) Watson 3) Phillip Hughes 4) Michael Clarke 5) Steven Smith 6) Brad Haddin 7) Ashton Agar( All-Rounder) 8) Nathan Lyon, 9) Jason Bird, 10) P.Siddle, 11) James Pattinson. ........... Aussies need a strong bowling attack, batting can kick off as it's own as Aussie bowlers are capable of doing good batting

Posted by BrianCharlesVivek on (July 15, 2013, 16:01 GMT)

Sack Clarke and bring Bailey as captain...He is an unused gem for Aus

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 15:49 GMT)

Are there no Australian batsmen, far better than the 'scholarly' Cowen and the 'elderly' Rogers?. On the latter, a 35 year old new-bee, just doesn't feel right, when you are trying to rebuild a national team for the next decade! I can see many better batsmen; but I am NO Australian selector. Neither do I have the authority or power to advise the Australian Cricket Administrators!

"Inverariably", they are coming with a couple or wrong choices, every single occasion. With or without any Mickey Mouse advice!

Consistency is a good trait for right / good decisions; not for wrong / bad decisions!

However, I feel Phil Hughes may be give a couple of more chances. But, I will not make a big Hugh & cry about it; if there are better options!

Posted by heathrf1974 on (July 15, 2013, 15:32 GMT)

@Barnesy4444 I agree Hughes is Australia's number 3. Khawaja has been somewhat disappointing.

Posted by milepost on (July 15, 2013, 15:25 GMT)

Bird in for Siddle and Khawaja in for Cowan, Bird's accuracy at lords with the natural movement off the slope will be nagging and Cowan needs a break. I don't doubt his ability for test cricket but Khawaja is Australia's best number 3 option unless there is a recall for Katich which I would love to see. Watson still worries me not for lack of skill but knack for long innings but the other guys all had a go. Anderson was always going to be hard work in England and his skill is obvious so we just have to tough out his spells as best can be. None of the replacements for Finn are threatening and he might bounce back well on his home ground. The sportsmanship in game one was very disappointing as a fan but you can't blame it for the result, just have to get on with it.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (July 15, 2013, 15:24 GMT)

Watson should be averaging over 50 in test cricket with the amount of talent he has. I hope Clarke doesn't bowl him too much, if at all, we need the runs. Who to put at 3 Khawaja or Hughes? Hughes showed in this test he can put his head down and make big scores during difficult periods, if he was at 3 he wouldn't run out of partners. Khawaja is averaging 32 this tour against second string county teams. He's lucky if he gets selected at all let alone at 3.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 15:24 GMT)

CLARKE should play at no. 5 and include BIRD somewhere thats it aus will thrash england!!!

Posted by cozens on (July 15, 2013, 15:17 GMT)

Its an intersting situation with Agar. Yes he batted superbly and was great to see him smash his way to 98, but he's in the team to take wickets. As an England fan I am very happy to see such a weak spin bowler playing against us.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (July 15, 2013, 15:13 GMT)

welovepakistan, Hughes is a far superior batsmen. Just look at the difference in runs just on this tour. Khawaja: 194 runs, averaging 32; Hughes 370 runs, averaging 72, including a match changing knock in first innings of test. Last Australian domestic season Hughes averaged 55, Khawaja 39.

I don't think Cowan will last. They should promote Hughes to number 3 rather than pick an out-of-form Khawaja to bat there.

Posted by prosanto on (July 15, 2013, 15:07 GMT)

England played well and they deserved to win...... There are some issues can be talk about, 1st most of the close calls (50/50) had gone on England's favour, which Australia don't have to do with anything about it. 2nd poor use of REVIEW, i wouldn't mind to give Clarke homework to learn "how to use REVIEW wisely". 3rd Cowan has no good to be in xi, how could he be in team with those warm up scores. 4th Clarke must learn how to use his blowers; i believe Smith is not a batsman only, he's good enough to be an all-rounder .. Bell and Broad had batted for almost 50 overs but still we didn't see Smith bowl a single over, learn from Cook, he had a go with Root and see the result of Cowan's wicket ( i personally think that's the winning point for England) Smith must blow if he is in the team. For next match my team will be...... 1. Watson 2.Rogers 3.Hughes 4.Clarke 5.Smith 6.Haddin 7.Faulkner 8.Pattinson 9.Agar 10.Siddle 11.Srarc Yes i picked Faulkner Watson is only an opener..

Posted by AKS286 on (July 15, 2013, 15:03 GMT)

Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St Tests 6 11 2 263 65 29.22 673 39.07 0 1 24 3 3 0 This record can give a player ticket to B-grade club cricket. Khawaja fans what special in this record ?

Posted by AKS286 on (July 15, 2013, 14:57 GMT)

Shaun Marsh is the ultimate man to replace Clarke's boy Cowan. Shaun is a World class batsman with good temperament & technique. After that i'll go with Voges and Klinger.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 14:57 GMT)

The batting order for Lords based on ability and form should be: 1) Agar 2) Pattisnson 3) Siddle 4) Clarke 5) Rogers 6) Haddin 7) Watson 8) Hughes 9) Smith 10) Starc 11) Cowan That tells you a lot, doesn't it?

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 14:55 GMT)

I think Cowan should be given another test match.. He was ill with virus throughout.. He is a batsman who has been criticized from the start.. If he plays in Lords, I think, he will bat very well, as his patience is quite good..

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 14:49 GMT)

I think they should try out marsh brothers , adam voges in current squad with Callum Ferguson , i think these are the players with some technique can survive on swinging , seaming conditions in England.

Posted by HawK89 on (July 15, 2013, 14:40 GMT)

Warner needs to come in the 3rd test match and either open by moving Rogers to 3, or replace Hughes are 6. Hughes is hit and miss too much and needs to make runs in the 2nd test to hold his spot. They may want to move Haddin to 5 or 6 and put Smith at 7 or an all-rounder.

Posted by A_HTIMAN on (July 15, 2013, 14:34 GMT)

@welovepakistan Take ListA, T20, Test, ODI, FC Hughes has a better average than Khawaja. 7 fifities and 3 centuries in 25 tests is way better than 1 fifty in 7 games

Posted by SirViv1973 on (July 15, 2013, 14:32 GMT)

I think Aus problem is that they don't have anyone on their bench who you would think can come in to the side & make a huge difference. I think Ed Cowan still being in the side underlines this. A test ave of 31 in 18 matches simply isn't good enough & he would have been dropped sometime ago if Aus had any other real options.

Posted by davrosorma on (July 15, 2013, 14:30 GMT)

welovepakistan - hughes is a far superior batsman to khawaja but khawaja is better than cowan. I would drop Cowan and and play Khawaja either at 3 or 6. And CherryWood_Champion you're right, England can't play legspin which is why Smith didn't get a bowl - he can't bowl legspin! I laughed to see him listed as an all-rounder as he plays exclusively for NSW as a batsman and the sooner people get that he is one of the better batsman in Australia the sooner he can get on with it.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 14:29 GMT)

klinger fits the bill for the next test. it won't happen but it should.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (July 15, 2013, 14:28 GMT)

In regards to the batting I think they are just short of time in the middle playing the longer format of the game.

The only australian bastman that looked out of real touch was Cowan, but at Trent Bridge the batsmen that took thier time to get in generally prospered, such as Smith, Bell, Haddin, Hughes, gradually opening up as they got thier eye in.

It was also fairly frue that 1 wicket often bought 2 or 3 as the newer batsman didnt have time to adjust to the pace of the wicket.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 14:27 GMT)

@landl47, very humorous!! I would drop Cowan as we really have seen enough. Opening 1st drop means some very difficult decisions: do we insert someone new (Khawaja), or promote an existing batsman? I've heard arguments for and against Clarke coming up the order, on the one hand, what a statement to have your skipper and your biggest gun at no 3, on the other hand, what a calamity if he goes cheaply. If not Clarke, then who, Smith or Hughes? Do we play 5 bowlers? There is an argument for that given that it still took 375 runs to get rid of England in albeit trying conditions. Keep Starc, add Bird, promote Agar as all rounder??

Posted by SirViv1973 on (July 15, 2013, 14:24 GMT)

@mrrescuer, I'm not sure Smith is really is an allrounder in the longer format anymore & on recent form he does make the current Aus team as a batsman. Having seem him here in 2010 & then later that yr in the ashes I was wondering why he had been selected as neither his bowling or batting was good enough. However I think Smith & those around him have probably come to the conclusion that he is never going to be a top class legspinner but he may make a test standard batsman & that is the way he is going. He may well continue to bowl a bit in ltd overs games but in test terms he will just be someone who comes on as a fill in bowler who bowls a few overs here & there.

Posted by RealWI on (July 15, 2013, 14:07 GMT)

Great game........Anderson is a great bowler. Can't wait for the second match.

Posted by welovepakistan on (July 15, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

australia fans tell me one thing! hughes and khawaja is at par batsman but why hughes enjoying long run as compare to khawaja?

Posted by mrrescuer on (July 15, 2013, 13:57 GMT)

australian think tank has lead team in wrong direction.team they have been selecting for couple of months never fits for test.in test cricket a team need 6 specialist batsman ,1 wicketkeeper and 4 best bowers.but they played allrounders like maxwell and moises henriques in indian tour and they are playing steven smith in australia.ofcourse smith got some runs in 1st inning but he cant go beyond that.already they have allrounder in form of shane watson so better they should try specialist middle order batsman like usman khwajaa or any young talent should be picked in.then comes the order of batting.philip hughes is good at 1st then clarke and then cowan as he can handle spin well then spclst 4th. every top ranked test team is playing with this team combination whether it be england or south africa or india.all these team have spclst 6 batsman a wicketkeeper and 4 best bowlers of the team . gud luck to them for second test.

Posted by CherryWood_Champion on (July 15, 2013, 13:56 GMT)

First of all ... get Khwaja in for Ed. Second and most importantly I think Aussies missed a trick by not giving the ball to Smith .. Hell everyone knows how good the Britts are against Legspin.

Posted by FarSight on (July 15, 2013, 13:47 GMT)

Australia does not have test class batsmen in reserve waiting to be picked. After the retirements of a great team, it so often happens that rebuilding takes time and positive effort by Cricket Australia. Clark is a great batsman but a poor captain of the team. Change should happen there first. Katich is still playing very well. He should be picked and allowed to play whatever years he still has at test level. Australian cricket internicine politics are also responsible for the team's poor record in recent years. Its national politics seem to be going the same way. What is going on down under?

Posted by Aristocratt on (July 15, 2013, 13:47 GMT)

landl47 ..... fantastic, very, very funny, am in splits and unlikely to recover soon.

Posted by Blokker on (July 15, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

Engliah bats hardly set the game alight either. Apart from Bell their top order was average at best and a decent score from one of Australia's top order would have sealed it. Some games are just low-scoring.

Posted by landl47 on (July 15, 2013, 13:33 GMT)

I guess the option of playing 5 bowlers is being discussed because they want to score more runs and, on the evidence of this test, the bowlers are more likely to do that.

Posted by itismenithin on (July 15, 2013, 13:31 GMT)

I would like to see Bird in place of Starc. Not sure any of the batting options are strong enough to warrant a place. They really need to Clarke and Watson to fire and lead the batting unit.

Posted by Batmanian on (July 15, 2013, 13:25 GMT)

Khawaja has not exactly been bashing down the door, and Warner would be getting the chance if not for his silliness, but it looks like Khawaja is going to get his third chance. I don't think it's wise to give him first drop, but Hughes did so well down the order I can't see who else to put there and where else to put Khawaja. So, for 3, do you want 'has a role to play' Cowan, or the previously starstruck Khawaja? I vote the latter - Warner will be an option soon if it doesn't work.

Posted by D-Train on (July 15, 2013, 13:13 GMT)

In Khawaja and Harris/Bird Out Cowan and Starc

Posted by Micky.Panda on (July 15, 2013, 13:04 GMT)

Australia did not win. Changes need to be made. I have long maintained Cowan just does not get enough runs. If we had played this test with Warner instead of Cowan, it could potentially have been a win. Costly selection mistake. He never earned a spot in the side at all since his debut. Must give Khawaja another try. Perhaps rotate a fast bowler too and bring in Bird. If Siddle can do so well, I really think Bird can do better. Looks like a McGrath but bowling figures are even better. Rest Pattinson or Starc.

Posted by   on (July 15, 2013, 13:02 GMT)

cowan is not good and must go, khwaja deserves that spot and a long run

Posted by CricketMaan on (July 15, 2013, 12:49 GMT)

If Watto and Clarke cannot make runs, 50s from Rogers or Hughes won't help. Clark was right, Bell scored a tough 100, Jimmy took 10 so England deserved to Win. Unless the top 4 scores 250 among them dont expect England to fold that easily even if Aus bowl out of their skins.

Posted by ReverseSweepIndia on (July 15, 2013, 12:43 GMT)

I think batter did alright considering their recent past in India. Watson was more assured, Rogers was good. Clark had rare failure, but won't stay quite longer. Hughes was good in first inning and Smith was good too. Only problem with all of them was they did not scored big. One failure is, what Cowan was trying to do? He got out stumped out in India in first test. Do he always need a kick in backside to fire upon? If he had given his customary 150 balls 40, that would have helped a lot to Aus, because that would have tired Anderson and without whom they were mostly toothless n this match.

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