West Indies news August 9, 2014

Clive Lloyd to head West Indies selection panel

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Former West Indies captain Clive Lloyd has been named the new convenor of the selection panel, which includes former fast bowlers Eldine Baptiste and Courtney Walsh as new appointees in place of Clyde Butts and Robert Haynes.

Former wicketkeeper Courtney Browne was retained on the panel, while West Indies coach Ottis Gibson also has a spot on the committee, as does the respective captain as a non-voting member. Lloyd's contract is for a two-year term.

The changes were approved at a WICB directors' meeting on July 12 in Antigua. "We welcome the introduction of Clive Lloyd - one of the true legends of West Indies cricket -to the selection panel for the first time," said WICB's director of cricket Richard Pybus. "We are also glad that an iconic fast bowler like Courtney Walsh, and highly-experienced, former international player and coach like Eldine Baptiste have accepted to perform this important function.

"Courtney Browne is retained on the panel as both selector and regional talent manager, with a specialist focus on youth and women's cricket."

The new panel will convene for the first time during the course of the week, with their first main task being the selection of the West Indies Test team for the home series against Bangladesh in September.

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  • on August 12, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    clive lloyd should be given the green light to travell from country to country to observe players in the local competition so he can make educated selection. he must also be given the authority to recommend players to go to training so that the game can improve. hopefully wi game will improve and mediocore will not be selected.

  • Collis79 on August 12, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    Whilst its great to have Lloyd, Walsh and Baptiste involved in WIndies cricket, the fact is that there has to be war in the dressing room. They should DEMAND that the team bowl, bat and field in a disciplined fashion. If certain players like Mr Gayle, Mr Tino Best and others do not want to play cricket in this fashion, then give them their travelling fares and tell them goodbye. And don't tell me "you can't treat players this way because they are superstars", firstly, I'm not interested in that argument and secondly, Lloyd and Richards as captains insisted on those disciplines which was why we were successful.

  • everfaithful77 on August 12, 2014, 9:18 GMT

    @aclarity I completely agree that it's time for Gibson to go. The WICB made an excellent decision in appointing Clive LLoyd to head selection panel. I had almost lost hope that this board headed by Mr. Cameron was capable of making courageous, sensible and significant decisions such as this. However they haven't gone far enough without removing the current head coach who has presided over one of the most forgettable periods of West Indies cricket. Windies are currently ranked last among the top 8 in test & ODI's and next to last in top 8 T20 teams. I thought after Sammy was relieved of the test captaincy that Gibson's removal would have been a foregone conclusion but the board stopped short. Then we suffered a humiliating loss to New Zealand at home under a new captain but SAME COACH. How far down does Windies have to go before the WICB acts decisively to place Windies in an entirely new direction. Appointing LLOYD & RAMDIN is a great start but failure to change the coach is unwise.

  • bgillings on August 11, 2014, 21:31 GMT

    YOUTH!!!! whats the point of the High Performance team if we wont develop the players from early

  • aclarity on August 11, 2014, 3:32 GMT

    This is a small step in the right direction. Without removing Gibson and Stew Williams from their coaching positions the transition will be very incomplete. I still cannot see any young player improving under these two coaches. Furthermore we need our coaches to assist the young captains during a game. Can anyone see Gibson performing this task? Haven't we seen enough? This is a very long leach for Gibson which I predicted some time ago.

  • on August 10, 2014, 20:02 GMT

    The manager is not responsible for poor players and substandard coaching.

  • on August 10, 2014, 15:49 GMT

    Bad news for West Indies cricket. He was manager before and we got no way . None of that quality team was developed under Clive LLoyd, they came from county cricket prepared and who was not there from the beginning went to county cricket to get prepared.

  • charlesie on August 10, 2014, 15:36 GMT

    This is the best decision I have seen made by the West Indies board in decades. These three men will do a fantastic job in selection the best team for our region. Good luck to my former colleagues in their new positions.

  • Twinkie on August 10, 2014, 14:24 GMT

    Clive Lloyd has a cricket brain. He is also a good leader. He is fair, not insular and desperate to see West Indies rise again. Maybe he can bring some logic to the selection of our team which has often seemed lacking. This board appears to have a plan for the improvement of our cricket. It seems to have mended the bridge with the players, and it is attempting to bring our former greats back into the fold. An analysis has been completed and recommendations are being followed. Let us all give it a chance to work! Our cricket is currently abysmal and only T20 draws a crowd. T20 is just a bit of entertainment. Small grounds, flat pitches, restricted fields stacked against the bowlers. Good balls are not justly rewarded. They are often edged for six. That's surely not cricket!

  • JoshFromJamRock on August 10, 2014, 13:05 GMT

    Good decision for the most part. Its important that the selectors go on form and adaptability when selecting a squad for the different formats. Some players are able to transfer their form to other formats while others don't have a clue how to do it.

    The fast bowling reserves are looking good with Roach, Taylor, Rampaul and Holder leading the pack. These four are not only in good form but are also quite adaptable to the different formats.

    The spin bowling reserves are also good with Narine, Badree and Benn the premiere bowlers. While Narine is a must, it would interesting to see what Badree offers in the other formats especially ODIs.

    Allrounders are in excess but IMO Bravo (batting) and Holder (bowling) are most capable of making big scores and taking quality wickets, respectively. Sammy and Pollard are OK but they could improve on their strength i.e. Batting.

    The batting talent is around but the batting manager has a very important role to select each for the right format.

  • on August 12, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    clive lloyd should be given the green light to travell from country to country to observe players in the local competition so he can make educated selection. he must also be given the authority to recommend players to go to training so that the game can improve. hopefully wi game will improve and mediocore will not be selected.

  • Collis79 on August 12, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    Whilst its great to have Lloyd, Walsh and Baptiste involved in WIndies cricket, the fact is that there has to be war in the dressing room. They should DEMAND that the team bowl, bat and field in a disciplined fashion. If certain players like Mr Gayle, Mr Tino Best and others do not want to play cricket in this fashion, then give them their travelling fares and tell them goodbye. And don't tell me "you can't treat players this way because they are superstars", firstly, I'm not interested in that argument and secondly, Lloyd and Richards as captains insisted on those disciplines which was why we were successful.

  • everfaithful77 on August 12, 2014, 9:18 GMT

    @aclarity I completely agree that it's time for Gibson to go. The WICB made an excellent decision in appointing Clive LLoyd to head selection panel. I had almost lost hope that this board headed by Mr. Cameron was capable of making courageous, sensible and significant decisions such as this. However they haven't gone far enough without removing the current head coach who has presided over one of the most forgettable periods of West Indies cricket. Windies are currently ranked last among the top 8 in test & ODI's and next to last in top 8 T20 teams. I thought after Sammy was relieved of the test captaincy that Gibson's removal would have been a foregone conclusion but the board stopped short. Then we suffered a humiliating loss to New Zealand at home under a new captain but SAME COACH. How far down does Windies have to go before the WICB acts decisively to place Windies in an entirely new direction. Appointing LLOYD & RAMDIN is a great start but failure to change the coach is unwise.

  • bgillings on August 11, 2014, 21:31 GMT

    YOUTH!!!! whats the point of the High Performance team if we wont develop the players from early

  • aclarity on August 11, 2014, 3:32 GMT

    This is a small step in the right direction. Without removing Gibson and Stew Williams from their coaching positions the transition will be very incomplete. I still cannot see any young player improving under these two coaches. Furthermore we need our coaches to assist the young captains during a game. Can anyone see Gibson performing this task? Haven't we seen enough? This is a very long leach for Gibson which I predicted some time ago.

  • on August 10, 2014, 20:02 GMT

    The manager is not responsible for poor players and substandard coaching.

  • on August 10, 2014, 15:49 GMT

    Bad news for West Indies cricket. He was manager before and we got no way . None of that quality team was developed under Clive LLoyd, they came from county cricket prepared and who was not there from the beginning went to county cricket to get prepared.

  • charlesie on August 10, 2014, 15:36 GMT

    This is the best decision I have seen made by the West Indies board in decades. These three men will do a fantastic job in selection the best team for our region. Good luck to my former colleagues in their new positions.

  • Twinkie on August 10, 2014, 14:24 GMT

    Clive Lloyd has a cricket brain. He is also a good leader. He is fair, not insular and desperate to see West Indies rise again. Maybe he can bring some logic to the selection of our team which has often seemed lacking. This board appears to have a plan for the improvement of our cricket. It seems to have mended the bridge with the players, and it is attempting to bring our former greats back into the fold. An analysis has been completed and recommendations are being followed. Let us all give it a chance to work! Our cricket is currently abysmal and only T20 draws a crowd. T20 is just a bit of entertainment. Small grounds, flat pitches, restricted fields stacked against the bowlers. Good balls are not justly rewarded. They are often edged for six. That's surely not cricket!

  • JoshFromJamRock on August 10, 2014, 13:05 GMT

    Good decision for the most part. Its important that the selectors go on form and adaptability when selecting a squad for the different formats. Some players are able to transfer their form to other formats while others don't have a clue how to do it.

    The fast bowling reserves are looking good with Roach, Taylor, Rampaul and Holder leading the pack. These four are not only in good form but are also quite adaptable to the different formats.

    The spin bowling reserves are also good with Narine, Badree and Benn the premiere bowlers. While Narine is a must, it would interesting to see what Badree offers in the other formats especially ODIs.

    Allrounders are in excess but IMO Bravo (batting) and Holder (bowling) are most capable of making big scores and taking quality wickets, respectively. Sammy and Pollard are OK but they could improve on their strength i.e. Batting.

    The batting talent is around but the batting manager has a very important role to select each for the right format.

  • IPSY on August 10, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    It's great to see Clive Loyd being given a responsible role in a very important department of West Indies cricket again. It has been a period of headless decision making for the past twenty or so years - nobody makes any sense whatsoever with respect to what they are doing to improve cricket in the region - everybody only enjoying the perks that go with the high offices that they get, while our cricket goes from bad to worse. It would have been better if he were the President of WICB. I have no confidence in Dave Cameron at the helm of our cricket. However, I am still glad that Lloyd has at last been considered for an important position - we would now have proper players being selected to represent WI at test cricket, and not the host of bits and pieces and mediocre players that have been picket in recent times. We also need to change Otis Gibson as coach.

  • kentjones on August 10, 2014, 12:12 GMT

    Lloyd and Walsh good move WICB!

  • on August 10, 2014, 4:35 GMT

    Semi-good news. Some of the old timers are still there!

  • mrhamilton on August 10, 2014, 0:56 GMT

    Mr Hamilton here of Westgrove manor.finally west Indies cricket heading in right direction in recent months with pybus putting in place measures like this.finally the greats like lloyd,Walsh,Ambrose and Baptise are involved.

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on August 9, 2014, 23:52 GMT

    Great also to see iconic former speed king Courtney Walsh and the experienced Baptiste also involved. Now get some life back into the pitches...

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on August 9, 2014, 23:45 GMT

    This is the best news for West Indies cricket for a long time. The great man who built the finest sports team ever is back in the mix!

  • Ncnotorious on August 9, 2014, 21:49 GMT

    First order of business...get Jerome Taylor into the WI ODI squad vs Bandgladesh. I have no clue why he isnt.

  • on August 9, 2014, 21:11 GMT

    The appointment of Clive Lloyd is a step in the right direction

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  • on August 9, 2014, 21:11 GMT

    The appointment of Clive Lloyd is a step in the right direction

  • Ncnotorious on August 9, 2014, 21:49 GMT

    First order of business...get Jerome Taylor into the WI ODI squad vs Bandgladesh. I have no clue why he isnt.

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on August 9, 2014, 23:45 GMT

    This is the best news for West Indies cricket for a long time. The great man who built the finest sports team ever is back in the mix!

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on August 9, 2014, 23:52 GMT

    Great also to see iconic former speed king Courtney Walsh and the experienced Baptiste also involved. Now get some life back into the pitches...

  • mrhamilton on August 10, 2014, 0:56 GMT

    Mr Hamilton here of Westgrove manor.finally west Indies cricket heading in right direction in recent months with pybus putting in place measures like this.finally the greats like lloyd,Walsh,Ambrose and Baptise are involved.

  • on August 10, 2014, 4:35 GMT

    Semi-good news. Some of the old timers are still there!

  • kentjones on August 10, 2014, 12:12 GMT

    Lloyd and Walsh good move WICB!

  • IPSY on August 10, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    It's great to see Clive Loyd being given a responsible role in a very important department of West Indies cricket again. It has been a period of headless decision making for the past twenty or so years - nobody makes any sense whatsoever with respect to what they are doing to improve cricket in the region - everybody only enjoying the perks that go with the high offices that they get, while our cricket goes from bad to worse. It would have been better if he were the President of WICB. I have no confidence in Dave Cameron at the helm of our cricket. However, I am still glad that Lloyd has at last been considered for an important position - we would now have proper players being selected to represent WI at test cricket, and not the host of bits and pieces and mediocre players that have been picket in recent times. We also need to change Otis Gibson as coach.

  • JoshFromJamRock on August 10, 2014, 13:05 GMT

    Good decision for the most part. Its important that the selectors go on form and adaptability when selecting a squad for the different formats. Some players are able to transfer their form to other formats while others don't have a clue how to do it.

    The fast bowling reserves are looking good with Roach, Taylor, Rampaul and Holder leading the pack. These four are not only in good form but are also quite adaptable to the different formats.

    The spin bowling reserves are also good with Narine, Badree and Benn the premiere bowlers. While Narine is a must, it would interesting to see what Badree offers in the other formats especially ODIs.

    Allrounders are in excess but IMO Bravo (batting) and Holder (bowling) are most capable of making big scores and taking quality wickets, respectively. Sammy and Pollard are OK but they could improve on their strength i.e. Batting.

    The batting talent is around but the batting manager has a very important role to select each for the right format.

  • Twinkie on August 10, 2014, 14:24 GMT

    Clive Lloyd has a cricket brain. He is also a good leader. He is fair, not insular and desperate to see West Indies rise again. Maybe he can bring some logic to the selection of our team which has often seemed lacking. This board appears to have a plan for the improvement of our cricket. It seems to have mended the bridge with the players, and it is attempting to bring our former greats back into the fold. An analysis has been completed and recommendations are being followed. Let us all give it a chance to work! Our cricket is currently abysmal and only T20 draws a crowd. T20 is just a bit of entertainment. Small grounds, flat pitches, restricted fields stacked against the bowlers. Good balls are not justly rewarded. They are often edged for six. That's surely not cricket!