England v Netherlands, World T20 Group 1, Chittagong

Giles unsure of effect on job prospects

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March 31, 2014

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Ashley Giles slinks away from England's shambolic defeat, England v Netherlands, World T20, Group 1, Chittagong, March 31, 2014
Ashley Giles will hope that isn't the last time he leaves the scene as England coach © Getty Images
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Ashley Giles said he didn't know whether England's humiliation at the hands of Netherlands would have a negative impact on his prospects of becoming head coach across all three formats but accepted that the performance was unacceptable from the players he hopes to lead on a full-time basis.

A 45-run defeat to an Associate team completed a winter of miserable cricket from England. Giles has been in charge for a good proportion of it with ODI and T20 series defeats in Australia followed by another 20-over reverse in the Caribbean. But being rolled by the Netherlands saw England plumb new depths. It was not what Giles wanted to take into the interview room at Lord's.

"It never helps does it, losing to Holland," he said. "We wanted to leave here after what in some ways were some positive performances with a win. It has been a difficult winter. The sun will still come up tomorrow but sometimes it feels like it won't when you have days like that at the office and it wasn't good from anyone. I'm sure the ECB know that but there is not much more we can say except that it was unacceptable and embarrassing."

Giles thought England were complacent in their pursuit of 134 - a target that should have been swallowed up after previous totals of 193, 190 and 172 in the tournament. It was not the first time this winter that England have coughed up a match in pursuit of a target very much within reach.

"Unfortunately it has been quite a common trait of ours in these games to make them look difficult and to at times lose them and you can't do that," Giles said. "You can't just pick and choose when you are up for it. You have to be up for it all the time.

"We were not necessarily worried at half time," Giles said. "The messages were the same before the game and through the game. We prepared the side in the same way, we gave the same messages, the warm-ups were the same, our intensity the same, I thought we warmed up well. We had the same meetings and talked about concentrating on the job that needed to be done and then at half time making sure guys are in the right space."

Giles said he felt the pain of such a demoralising defeat and he will now hope he is given the chance to rebuild England. One result should not prove have too detrimental an effect on his credentials but he is entitled to field let down by his players. It would be a very disappointing end to his time as England coach if he wasn't appointed full time.

"We are all in this together. Don't get me wrong, when the guys go out there, there has to be some personal responsibility there as well, but we are a team, we stick together and we have all lost that match. It should hurt those guys as much as it hurts me and I hope it does.

"I would hope they will know that is not acceptable. Those sorts of performances are not good. We are playing for our country, all of us, every time you put on an England shirt, bowl a ball, field a ball, hit a ball you have to have everything in it and we weren't today.

"It wouldn't be your ideal way to go out. I said yesterday that we would have the odd blip and they don't get much bigger than this. If there could be any bright side it was that it wasn't all on going through to the semis. You would have hoped the team would have reacted differently if it was. It was a little bit of complacency but we can't afford those sorts of performances in a year. It is just not good enough."

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Posted by   on (April 1, 2014, 18:25 GMT)

Regardless of the strength of his squad, he has achieved nothing of note and frankly needed a miraculous innings from Hales to save him from absolute humiliation this tournament.

Woefully short of ideas and his selection of certain players is laughable.

The lack of pride on display shows how little influence he has.

Welcome aboard!

Posted by   on (April 1, 2014, 15:19 GMT)

Disgrace that he can even be considered for the full job after the appauling performances with the team utterly devoid of character. What has he done to prove he can handle the Test team? Not a thing!

Posted by geoffboyc on (April 1, 2014, 10:34 GMT)

Most of us who follow cricket avidly have ceased being surprised by ECB decisions so, in spite of this fiasco, who knows? Giles is a very decent bloke and was a steady player with bat and ball, but that won't make him a successful coach at Test level, particularly if others are telling him who he can and can't pick. Whoever they appoint will a bit of a gamble in the current climate but a Giles/Cook duo doesn't set the pulses racing.

Posted by Daniel_Smith on (April 1, 2014, 8:38 GMT)

Giles unsure of effect on job prospects - well, Ash I can tell you being thrashed by part-timers isn't going to do your chances any favours at all. Although why you need other people to point out the bleeding obvious is beyond me but whilst we're at it how about a few other things.

Teach the lads to bowl properly, teach them to catch and teach them to bat sensibly.

Posted by WillDuff on (April 1, 2014, 8:14 GMT)

Giles must NOT get the job. He is just not up to it. He doesn't have the experience and he doesn't have the skills. Read Michael Carberry's interview today: his report of Giles's man-management skills is very telling.

It's also said that the ECB might be lining up Peter Moores to come back. Again, the fans say NO. England need a fresh approach, not a return of the failed headmaster. We need players to take responsibility for their performances with the support of the management, not another sergeant major drilling them to produce yet another sterile series of failures.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (April 1, 2014, 8:13 GMT)

Will someone (Paul Downton, I suppose) kindly put Ash out of his misery. I just don't like people suffering needlessly. Just tell him it won't be worth his while attending the interview. AG can then go on holiday and afterwards he can return to Edgbaston where work will be found for him, I have no doubt.

Posted by   on (April 1, 2014, 8:06 GMT)

Ashley Giles was an average player and he is an average coach...although I won't be surprised if he is given the England job...

Posted by   on (April 1, 2014, 8:03 GMT)

If Giles gets the job we can expect several years of "egoless" team performances - in other words, boring and uninspiring and playing to a pre-determined plan despite what the match position presents. Decent man but not an international team manager - hopelessly out of his depth and his appointment would ultimately affect attendances. It would be like appointing Torquays manager as England coach.

Posted by   on (April 1, 2014, 7:59 GMT)

@Nataraj Krishnan: Are you actually aware that Pietersen's last completed T20 game for England was February 2012 ? Quite a long time ago...

Posted by notimeforcricket on (April 1, 2014, 6:50 GMT)

Australia were clearly a much better team than we realised, as shown when they went (probably exhausted and bruise) to SA and won but the manner in which England simply gave up was disappointing. Again, here, despite losing games, there was evidence that the guys were fighting. I would put Ian Bell in change with a completely new coach. They need to interview all the county coaches. Giles was always a good honest trier and, in his defence, he has always been heavily restricted - in this instance I am sure Stokes and Root would have made a difference to batting and bowling. Giles and Cook is a depressing combination though. need some inspiration. Ian Bell for captain I say. 2 years, then move to someone else. it is clearly an exhausting job. bring in Robson and Taylor to the test team.

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