New Zealand in Australia 2011-12 November 27, 2011

'No fear of Australia at all' - Bracewell

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New Zealand seamer Doug Bracewell has said his team has the "mongrel" to topple Australia on their own turf, ahead of the two-Test series that gets underway at the Gabba from December 1. Bracewell, now in his second tour with the national team, said New Zealand are capable of playing a tougher brand of cricket.

"There's definitely no fear of Australia at all," Bracewell told the Sunday Star Times. "We've spoken about being more ruthless and having more mongrel as a team. Whether that's guys sledging or however they go about their business, we just want to be a tougher, more consistent team."

New Zealand haven't beaten their trans-Tasman rivals in a Test since 1993, and have not won in Australia for 26 years. However, the current Australian line-up they're up against at the Gabba is already depleted with the loss of Mitchell Johnson, Shane Watson, Patrick Cummins, Ryan Harris and Shaun Marsh. The bowling attack features three rookie fast bowlers, with Peter Siddle leading the attack.

Despite Australia's early setback with injuries to key players, Bracewell called his side the "underdogs" who have nothing to fear.

"Before we came over we said we want to be more aggressive and ruthless, especially playing the Aussies," Bracewell said. "They like to think they're the best team in the world and what not. We are the underdogs so it gives us that mongrel to go out and show that we're better than them - that we can beat them. We'll be looking to take it to them and show no fear."

New Zealand are coming off a short series in Zimbabwe, where they sneaked a Test win despite a spirited fightback by the home side. Bracewell said certain senior players and the coach John Wright are responsible for shaping the team's self-belief.

"It's mainly come from the coach and the likes of Rossco [captain Ross Taylor], [Daniel] Vettori and [Brendon] McCullum," Bracewell said.

He said a win in Australia is long overdue. "We owe it to the New Zealand public to try to get a win over here," Bracewell said. "I know our followers will respect us a lot more if we beat Australia over here. We're thinking about that. It's something to get inspired about."

Bracewell, who took a five-wicket haul in his debut Test in Zimbabwe, was in good form in the drawn tour match against Australia A, scoring an unbeaten 73 and taking four wickets.

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  • on November 29, 2011, 9:51 GMT

    best chance we have had for a while, what with all their injuries, at the end of the day the coin toss could have a massive bearing. Go the Black Caps kick them down to our level

  • m_kamb on November 29, 2011, 9:18 GMT

    YES INDIA BEAT ENGLAND 5-0,BUT ENG YET MANAGED TO WIN T20 AND TEST ARE STILL IN BALANCE.

  • on November 29, 2011, 4:32 GMT

    NZ can score as Aussie attack is below par. Let the spectators enjoy the Games. After a long time they are evenly matched.

  • Stevo_ on November 29, 2011, 3:10 GMT

    @ landl47 Your not really a cricket follwoer are you. As others have pointed out the game is at the Gabba, where we haven't lost in a long time. Doubt NZ can win, willl either be an Oz win or a draw (with rain predicted a draw is prob most likely)

  • BravoBravo on November 29, 2011, 3:04 GMT

    @nzcricket174: Sorry friend, my heartfelt apologies. I did not mean to villify NZ team as I believe it is very good and competitive team. However, with all fairness AUS is still a very strong team, except for ENG in recent times (almost in 2 decades), name any team which has won a series in their (AUS) backyard.

  • johnnycash on November 29, 2011, 2:48 GMT

    deep down i'm sure that even the most ardent nz fan would realise that if australia bat first then the series could be as good as gone by lunch on day 1 with Hughes and Warner still at the crease.

  • redneck on November 29, 2011, 0:36 GMT

    @landl47 come on mate do you think we only have one ground per city down here???? alan border field is a flat batsmans paradise, the gabba is not. same city completly different pitch. if australia smashed the poms at lords it wouldnt mean the ovals a shoe in just because their both in london.

  • jellobiafra on November 28, 2011, 22:28 GMT

    As long as they (Australia) dont bowl under arm, we are in with a chance!

  • jellobiafra on November 28, 2011, 22:26 GMT

    Being a New Zealander I cant say I am unhappy with the current situation that the Australians find themselves in leading into the series(form and player injuries). I would add however that with optimism comes caution as We are playing Australia and it is a Test match, which would in nearly every instance for at least the majority of my lifetime would mean complete and utter destruction....for NZ. Having said that I just bet double chance on NZ to do it first test... Good luck to me.

  • on November 28, 2011, 16:40 GMT

    He is a typical Bracewell. A big mouth through and through.

  • on November 29, 2011, 9:51 GMT

    best chance we have had for a while, what with all their injuries, at the end of the day the coin toss could have a massive bearing. Go the Black Caps kick them down to our level

  • m_kamb on November 29, 2011, 9:18 GMT

    YES INDIA BEAT ENGLAND 5-0,BUT ENG YET MANAGED TO WIN T20 AND TEST ARE STILL IN BALANCE.

  • on November 29, 2011, 4:32 GMT

    NZ can score as Aussie attack is below par. Let the spectators enjoy the Games. After a long time they are evenly matched.

  • Stevo_ on November 29, 2011, 3:10 GMT

    @ landl47 Your not really a cricket follwoer are you. As others have pointed out the game is at the Gabba, where we haven't lost in a long time. Doubt NZ can win, willl either be an Oz win or a draw (with rain predicted a draw is prob most likely)

  • BravoBravo on November 29, 2011, 3:04 GMT

    @nzcricket174: Sorry friend, my heartfelt apologies. I did not mean to villify NZ team as I believe it is very good and competitive team. However, with all fairness AUS is still a very strong team, except for ENG in recent times (almost in 2 decades), name any team which has won a series in their (AUS) backyard.

  • johnnycash on November 29, 2011, 2:48 GMT

    deep down i'm sure that even the most ardent nz fan would realise that if australia bat first then the series could be as good as gone by lunch on day 1 with Hughes and Warner still at the crease.

  • redneck on November 29, 2011, 0:36 GMT

    @landl47 come on mate do you think we only have one ground per city down here???? alan border field is a flat batsmans paradise, the gabba is not. same city completly different pitch. if australia smashed the poms at lords it wouldnt mean the ovals a shoe in just because their both in london.

  • jellobiafra on November 28, 2011, 22:28 GMT

    As long as they (Australia) dont bowl under arm, we are in with a chance!

  • jellobiafra on November 28, 2011, 22:26 GMT

    Being a New Zealander I cant say I am unhappy with the current situation that the Australians find themselves in leading into the series(form and player injuries). I would add however that with optimism comes caution as We are playing Australia and it is a Test match, which would in nearly every instance for at least the majority of my lifetime would mean complete and utter destruction....for NZ. Having said that I just bet double chance on NZ to do it first test... Good luck to me.

  • on November 28, 2011, 16:40 GMT

    He is a typical Bracewell. A big mouth through and through.

  • indianzen on November 28, 2011, 15:02 GMT

    better people speak after the series.. or else it would become like a england after india's 5-0....

  • crikey on November 28, 2011, 9:45 GMT

    @landl47 , the match was played on the Alan Border field , not the Gabba. So there goes your theory. Sorry mate.

  • satish619chandar on November 28, 2011, 9:20 GMT

    The one good thing about this NZ team(Or any NZ team) is, they can be devastating on their day.. With the kind of power hitters they have, they can very well be a challenge to any team if they can produce bowlers who can take 20 wickets.. Vettori is a terrific minnow basher as a bowler.. He has lovely flight change and pace variation.. He is skillful but i wonder why only the minnows get out to his skills.. Nathan McCullum would have been a valuable addition to the squad in case extra spinner was needed.. Make Brendan to keep wkt and add another bowler.. Attacking Aussies is the best way u can challenge them even NOW!!

  • on November 28, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    Australia are better and will win enough said :)

  • on November 28, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    No Test win since 1993 incredibel dominance,

  • lekharaj on November 28, 2011, 6:20 GMT

    NZ is a good team, no doubt but i see them only picking 5 -6 wickets per innings at maximum. Their bowling attack is poor ,however they back it up with good fielding. Batsman are not consistent ,sometimes they score easy 50s, sometimes struggle to score a run. Though i am a NZ supporter, I can not see them winning, hopefully they put a better fight.

  • Happy_AusBang on November 28, 2011, 6:18 GMT

    I think the team to look out for is Pakistan. It is a shame they can't play on their home turf, but that may not be a bad thing for them because they play with a lot less pressure when they are not at home. I would like to see a PAK-AUS and PAK-SA series soon.

  • on November 28, 2011, 6:05 GMT

    ** Australia may be down, but Australia is never out **

  • on November 28, 2011, 5:40 GMT

    There is little doubt that CA is no the decline and Cricket NZ is on the ascend. I believe NZ has reached a level to challenge Australia in Test Cricket. I predict 1-1 tie in the series if both matches are completed weather permitting.

  • thetopofoff on November 28, 2011, 5:26 GMT

    Wow, he's got a lot to say for a guy who's played one test - against Zimbabwe. We'll wait until the end of the 'series' to see how he and the Kiwi's have gone.

  • on November 28, 2011, 5:20 GMT

    the Kiwis beat a bunch of players with little or no test experience on a tiny ground and they say they are ready to beat Australia. No way the Aussies will maul the black caps

  • dsig3 on November 28, 2011, 4:56 GMT

    Seems like the Kiwi's really have their hopes up for this series. They did really well in the tour match but something tells me they may be in for a bit of a letdown when the real thing starts. Will they be able to maintain their attack at all cost style of play in a test match?

  • Agnar on November 28, 2011, 4:54 GMT

    Brace Well Australia! Go New Zealand!

  • NZisbetathnEnglnd on November 28, 2011, 4:32 GMT

    This is a highly dangerous NZ team. And as aforementioned NZ's main problem will be taking wickets. If you look at Guptill, McCullum, Taylor, Ryder, Williamson, Brownlie these are all players that are exceptional batters. You can't compare averages however like a lot of people tend to do. Not only do NZ play few tests but with half there games on home soil it reflects the fact that aside from Napier, the pitches do not allow for exceptional batting averages as is seen in India and Australia etc. Southee, Vettori (and dare I say it , martin) are quality bowlers and all the players I have mentioned make for the most part a very talented team. Australia on the otherhand are completely overrated. This series will be much closer than some of you aussies think.

  • kuroneko on November 28, 2011, 4:12 GMT

    "This is the strongest Nz Team I have ever seen."

    What a ludicrous statement. Are you 12 years old? This NZ team has potential, but we are getting WAY too carried away with Aust's supposed weaknesses. Taylor and McCullum are the only Kiwi batsmen to have made quality runs against quality teams, but neither are world class. Williamson and Brownlie are unproven. Ryder, for all his vast talent, is little more than a flat track bully. Guptill, also, has a poor record against genuine test teams.

    As for the bowling, I fail to see how we can be optimistic about taking 20 wickets. There is potential here too, with Southee and Bracewell, but this is test cricket in Australia. It will not be easy. Let's wait until we have a big first innings lead or can take the game into the 5th day before we talk of victory.

  • marts30 on November 28, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    @Nathan Kiely: 42 for Taylor isn't bad for a NZer... considering he plays most of his tests in NZ. McCullum, sure - but he's batted at 7 or 8 all his career. His average as an opener is far better. Williamson, 6 tests... Ryder, still inexperienced but has made a decent start to his test career (if we would stay fit). NZ don't play many tests, it's unfair to compare to them to the leading nations.

  • smeghands on November 28, 2011, 4:05 GMT

    Just ask Mitchell Johnson

  • Kiwi-Jake on November 28, 2011, 3:34 GMT

    This test series will be closer than some defeatist Kiwis and confident Australians believe it to be. The fact that Australia have lost most of their strike bowlers through injury puts their bowling attack on par with the New Zealanders, with Vettori being the only difference, but of course it's all gonna be on the seamers at the Gabba. Bracewell's just relaying this new thought process amongst the NZ team brought in by Wright and Donald. You know what, good on them, aggressive competitiveness shouldn't just be reserved for the supposedly 'best teams', even if it doesn't pay off, it's still far better than being passive and reserved. I think Nasser Hussain said that even if 'mental disintegration' only puts off a players performance by 1%, it's still a difference which is better for your team.

  • bobagorof on November 28, 2011, 3:31 GMT

    NZ, or at least Bracewell, trying to have their cake and eat it too, here. They want the underdog tag when playing against severely depleted side - so they have a much improved chance of winning, which will result in an enormous amount of chest-beating and national pride, but if they lose then they can hide behind the 'underdog' tag. I don't accept that - with Australia's debutant bowling attack, anything less than a NZ series win should be viewed as a crushing defeat... but I don't see NZ breaking their hoodoo this time around.

  • nzcricket174 on November 28, 2011, 3:26 GMT

    I tell you what, any player in our order is better than Hughes. Hell, it'd be more entertaining watching Chris Martin open up. I'm picking David Warner to score a 50 in one of these matches. Prepare for 2/1 with Phil Hughes doing an awkward edge to slip.

  • nzcricket174 on November 28, 2011, 3:20 GMT

    @BravoBravo What do you mean Aussie are a class apart? Didn't you see England tear them apart in the Ashes? 47 all out my friend, that's all.

  • zenboomerang on November 28, 2011, 3:17 GMT

    Having watched the match at ABField I came away feeling neither team excelled... ABField is a boutique oval, quite small with very narrow square of the wkt boundaries & the pitch was a belter - flat & even... The Gabba will be the opposite - wide boundaries & lively pitch for the fast bowlers & will take spin when the ball gets older... Bracewell & Martin bowled well... While Pattinson & Starc looked good... Cutting was given the old ball both innings - never given a fair go while Hilfy was - politics?... NZ batters will not be facing the bowling of Maddinson, Cowan, Beer or Smith to get easy runs... NZ only played against Test debutants Warner & 2 fast bowlers... Nothing can be taken from this match...

  • zenboomerang on November 28, 2011, 3:16 GMT

    @johnathonjosephs... yes Brownlie is an interesting pick... Australian born & bred - played Under 17 & 19 for WA, couldn't get a game for WA so moved to NZ 2 years ago on his NZ born fathers passport - his father is still in Australia :P ... Bracewell has had 1 Test as has Brownlie narrowly beating Zimbabwe... Will have to give them a dozen or so Tests to make any more comment... The same goes for our newbies as well... Give them all time...

  • SixFourOut on November 28, 2011, 2:45 GMT

    The difference between this Kiwi side and ones of the past is that when they lose it will be by 100 - 200 runs, not an innings defeat like in the past. They will be the best kiwi side ever next year when they have Neil Wagner bowling who is the next Bond.

    They have a Young batting side who will get better and better. In a year they will be a force to be reckoned with with a good bowling line up and a very good batting list. Just not now, when these young guys need another 10 tests to really understand test cricket and certainly not when they have the worst bowler in the world in Martin and the most over rated bowler in the world in Vettori. Southee and Bracewell are a couple of trundlers who lack REAL pace and are not accurate enough to pressure quality players.

  • othello22 on November 28, 2011, 2:30 GMT

    @smudgeon re:full blooded wallop - Yes, he's very entertaining isn't he? It was only a week or so ago he was on here trying to tell us that VVS Laxman and Virender Sehwag are better batsmen than Viv Richards, Don Bradman and Brian Lara. At first I thought it must have been a joke but then I realised he is dead serious, which makes it even funnier.

  • on November 28, 2011, 2:02 GMT

    NZ have talked themselves up on previous tours to Aus and crashed and burned. But this time the difference is that the players seem to have a good attitude and believe in themselves whereas in the past they've tried to play mind games. I hope this positive attitude makes its way on to the field and in the team selection. NZ need to play 4 seamers with Vettori batting at 6 and go looking for 20 wickets. Vettori has averaged over 40 with the bat for the past 5 years or so. He is good enough for the no6 position and as a senior team member should step up to give NZ a chance to play for the win.

  • on November 28, 2011, 1:56 GMT

    @Nathan Kiely. Guptil, Williamson and Ryder have all played less than 20 tests so there averages aren't necessarily representative of their abilities yet. You also need to consider McCullum has spent the majority of his career batting outside the top 6. Theres no sense in downplaying their ability when comparing them to the likes of Khawaji (ave 32.5), Warner (yet to debut) and Hughes (38.18). Ponting and Hussey are outstanding players and have had great careers but the general feeling is they are on the wane while NZs batsmen are on the rise.

    Chris Martin may be tradesmen like but dont forget he has more wickets than the entire Aus squad. Simillarly Vettori may not be a strike bowler with a standout ave but he has 350 wickets to his name and has performed in a struggling team all around the world over a long period.

    While Aus are definate favourites I do not believe the gulf in class you talk of exists.

  • windowmaker on November 28, 2011, 1:49 GMT

    vettori will decide the outcome , if he clicks the aussies are in for a hard time .... aussie favorites but its gonne b vettori vs aussies batsmen VS aussy spinner vs kiwi batsmen . i would like to see how cummins is managed

  • on November 28, 2011, 1:38 GMT

    I have no problems with what Bracewell said even though I get sick of all the talk of 'mongrel', being positive, taking it to them, etc etc before test series. We are at least a chance of winning a match this series, which is more than I could say for any other series in almost a decade against Australia.

    After years of being 'promising' our batting is starting to look like a genuinely good top 6. I still have reservations about our hit-and-miss openers (Guptill and McCullum are still fairly loose), but that middle order is a strength.

    Our bowling is still languishing in the 'promising' category - nowhere near proven. Chris Martin has managed to hang on just long enough to hand over the reigns to Tim Southee, who is only now looking a test-level bowler. Expect Bracewell, Boult and Wagner to take a good 18-24 months to get up to speed too. That said, if the pitch is green and there is swing around, 20 wickets are achievable. If not, the best we can hope for is a draw.

  • landl47 on November 28, 2011, 1:37 GMT

    NZ just made 423 and 467-6 on the ground where the first test will be played against three of the Aus seamers selected for the squad- Pattinson, Cutting and Starc. Since I've been reading here that most Aus fans don't think much of the 4th seamer (Siddle), presumably those are the three that Aus fans would like to see in the side. Doesn't appear to be much for the Kiwis to be afraid of there. The NZ bowling isn't great, with the exception of Vettori, who wasn't playing, but then again the Aus batting looks pretty iffy. Warner will be making his debut, Hughes has never looked convincing, Khawaja is at the beginning of his career and Ponting and Hussey are at the end of theirs. Clarke plays one good innings followed by 3 failures. I'm not going to go out on a limb and say NZ will win, but I do think this is their best chance in 20 years. If they bat to their potential, they should draw the first game of the series and then maybe the second will be on a sporting pitch.....

  • Ozcricketwriter on November 28, 2011, 1:35 GMT

    This is the worst NZ team since the 1960s and struggle to beat Zimbabwe or Bangladesh right now, with no hope against Australia, especially not in Australia. Australia may have fallen down a little over the past few years, but that was largely due to idiotic administrators, which the Argus review has larged resolved. Australia are coming straight off 2 strong away series wins against top-ranked Sri Lanka and South Africa and are on a high. They will slaughter New Zealand who are absolute minnows here. The only hope for New Zealand is that the 2nd test is in Hobart, which mimicks NZ conditions. If they pray for rain in Brisbane and absolutely every tiny little thing goes right for New Zealand in Hobart then there might be a sniff of a chance but realistically this is a massive mismatch.

  • likeintcricket on November 28, 2011, 1:27 GMT

    Against a weak bowling attack NZ batsman can score a bit but Australian batsman are better against any attack. If NZ score big in the first inning than they might have some chance but Australian players are tough and can be real hard to dismiss in both innings as SA found out this month.

  • hey_homes on November 28, 2011, 1:13 GMT

    Talking up our chances is foolish and counterproductive. As always, the main thing I'd like to see from NZ is patience and resolve at bat. Win or lose, they need to score some serious runs and only then will I start to get excited about this team's prospects.

  • Marcio on November 28, 2011, 1:03 GMT

    The most predictable scenario is that NZ will start off well, then fall away. They'll be full of confidence after the warm up game. But that was a small ground with a friendly wicket. It will be a lot tougher at the Gabba, especially if they have to bat first and there is a bit of moisture around. Still, it has to be admitted that NZ have some decent batsmen, and the Australian attack will be the least experienced I have ever seen. When Siddle is the strike bowler, we might be in trouble. Not sure NZ have the bowlers to win a game though. These warm up games don't necessarily mean that much. I recall Tremlett, Finn and co completely fizzled against Victoria during the last Ashes tour, and couldn't even get the two debutant Vic.opening batsmen out. Different story during the tests, though.

  • johnathonjosephs on November 28, 2011, 0:29 GMT

    This is the strongest Nz Team I have ever seen. Martin, Vettori, Southee, Ryder, Mccullum (Brendan), Guptill, and Ross Taylor all in form. Then you have the youngsters who are supposedly in form, but we have yet to see in the international arena. The whole world minus Australia will be praying for a NZ win

  • on November 28, 2011, 0:25 GMT

    Lets see, what happens with AUSsies this time :) 2 or 3 players are ok :)

  • on November 28, 2011, 0:11 GMT

    Ross Taylor only averages 42 in test cricket, good, but not great. McCullum 36.7, Williamson 37.81 and Ryder 44.85. They're all good batsman no doubt, but they will not, and I guarantee this, score more runs than a line-up including Clarke, Khawaja, Warner, even Phil Hughes -- who can barely score in a game of golf -- and especially not Michael Hussey. As for the bowlers; Bracewell took a 5-for against Zimbabwe and now he thinks he's Glen McGrath, Chris Martin has a worse bowling average that Mitchell Johnson! and despite Southee's potential, he has a dismal test average of 42.54. Daniel Vittori is the only bowler they have who is remotely on the same playing field, but even his bowling average is super-seeded by Peter Siddle's! If there isn't a gaping hole between these two sides at the end of the series, than something has gone critically wrong. Should be an easy way to pick up some wickets and runs, in what has been passed off as test cricket, for the out of form Australians.

  • beejaytee on November 27, 2011, 23:41 GMT

    This short series will be decided by one or two individual performances. I think you'd have to say the Australia is more likely to provide them, especially at home. NZ will struggle to take 20, it's true. But if the batsmen can give the bowlers a 1st innings of 450-500 to work with, anything can happen. Still, Australia will win. More's the pity.

  • smudgeon on November 27, 2011, 23:40 GMT

    Thanks Full-Blooded-Wallop - I was having a pretty ordinary day until I read your grouping system. Put a smile on my face. Cheers for that.

  • boooonnie on November 27, 2011, 23:10 GMT

    Aust thinks its number one in the world? We got just got caned 3-1 by the poms last summer! Nonetheless NZ is a real chance here. We have so many injuries at the moment and im sure when Clarke and co looked at the schedule this year they would have pencilled in South Africa and India and not thought much about the Kiwis. With Ryder, Taylor and MacCullum in form this could be NZ's chance.

  • crikey on November 27, 2011, 23:04 GMT

    NZ has never feared aus, but they have not beaten them in aus in 26 years either!

  • redneck on November 27, 2011, 22:50 GMT

    @Nerk not really, they havent beaten anyone of significance for a long time. and we have been writting them off in every tour here since 93 and lone behold they didnt win a single test. consider them written off! the kiwis have good team spirit but that alone wont beat an australian test XI, espechally at the gabba and belrieve. one venue we havent lost at since hadlee was around and the second we have never lost at. green horn bowlers aside, kiwis will do well to take either test into day 5.

  • Bone101 on November 27, 2011, 22:16 GMT

    Good to see NZ coming into the Test series with the right attitude. There are definitely weaknesses in the Aussie line up that can be exploited. AS a few other have mentioned, the main issue for the Kiwi's is their bowlers..... can they take the 20 wickets required to win?

  • BravoBravo on November 27, 2011, 22:16 GMT

    NZ is a highly spirited team, and I wish them goodluck. But, AUS is a class apart. Their (AUS) Win to Loss ratio is the best. Best to Worst WIN to LOSS ratio is_ AUS, ENG, WI, PAK, SA, IND, NZ. No matter how you put it, it (Win To LOSS) will remain be the same. And Teams shoould be ranked by WIN to LOSS Criteria and their frequency to play outside, outside the cozy comforts of their homegrounds. ICC ranking is a JOKE that is why IND became #1 in test though on short term basis. In their cricket playing years SA and NZ never won any significant event so far. AUS is going through a lean patch, but they will come through. They have been champions for a period of 15 years, and they will be again soon. The aura and command of WI (of 80's) and AUS (1990-2005) will not be matched by any teams. Good Luck NZ.

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on November 27, 2011, 21:34 GMT

    Australia realise they are the 4th best team in the world rather than 'the best & what not' so not sure what this chap is going on about. Seems the confused ramblings of a boy a bit over excited about playing Australia which appears to be the only series that NZ care about. Should be a hard fought close series i would have thought and an excellent introduction to Test match intensity for some new players.

  • Jonocricketnz on November 27, 2011, 20:29 GMT

    jonesy2 I think Bracewell is saying exactly the right thing. Is Australia scared of any other nation? No. What about South Africa, England, India?

    If we want to be one of the big boys then we have to have the right attitude - one which I think is currently being fostered by John Wright, and previously Allan Donald in is his quick stint.

    Yes - if history is anything to go by, we will lose these games. But someday we will win, and that day will probably come with the right attitude on board.

  • Full-Blooded-Wallop on November 27, 2011, 20:00 GMT

    ICC should really think of bracketing the 10 test playing nations and arrange more matches among themselves so as to get a better picture of rankings. India barring that series in england have lost nothing at all in last 3-4 years. So my groupings will be: 1)Strong(A)=Ind,Sa 2)promising(B)=kiwis,westindies,zimbabwe,england 3)average(C)=pak,srilanka 4) minnows(D)=Aus,bangladesh. More series with bangladesh MAY hugely help Aus to gain some points. Playing with good teams like kiwis won't help

  • Full-Blooded-Wallop on November 27, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Easily a 2-0 in favor of kiwis.Man to man nz are light years ahead.If they have macullum,ryder,rosco,williamson...aussies have comparatively weaker line up consisting of ponting clarke hussey and khwaja.

  • SnowSnake on November 27, 2011, 19:13 GMT

    Good luck NZ. NZ is a great team and generated some of the great fast bowlers in the past. Test cricket is better because of NZ. However, never underestimate Australia.

  • on November 27, 2011, 18:46 GMT

    aussiess............. gonna with the series 2.0

  • bumsonseats on November 27, 2011, 18:43 GMT

    johnathon on josephs i think you went to the jonesy2 school of thinking. but in your case i like your thinking, more thought went in to yours. well done man. dpk

  • jonesy2 on November 27, 2011, 18:26 GMT

    oh god. this is very silly from bracewell, very very silly. not helping his team at all.

  • johnathonjosephs on November 27, 2011, 18:05 GMT

    At the moment, New Zealand, Pakistan, India, Australia, and South Africa are all evenly matched. Sri Lanka would be in that group too, but their side is out of form.England is slightly ahead of the lot and West Indies not too far behind

  • on November 27, 2011, 16:49 GMT

    Bravo....Brave Guy....but dear words dont win matches.... I hope u perform as good as you spoke now...and you win coz i would be as happy as you ,tough i am not new zealander but i like aussie loosing....

  • Peterincanada on November 27, 2011, 15:34 GMT

    @NevadaSmith From what I've seen, unless we have helpful pitches, neither side looks capable of taking 20 wickets.I think 0-0 is a more likely scenario.

  • on November 27, 2011, 15:22 GMT

    If NZ can put up a good show against aussies ,that would really help india

  • on November 27, 2011, 14:56 GMT

    Same story, same result. Come on guys, every year you talk yourself up and fail. How about treating your opposition with a tiny bit of respect and don't wake the sleeping giant!

  • Sinhaya on November 27, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    Well said Brendon! Give out your very best. But your bowling cant get the Aussies out twice from what I see. Target Ponting intensely. He is too big headed.

  • on November 27, 2011, 12:52 GMT

    yeah thats the spirit dougie lets rip it up em,they think they got a easy win comin,come on you black caps

  • bumsonseats on November 27, 2011, 12:37 GMT

    oh dear the plethera of aussie talent took a beating today. not many of those stood up and were counted, well none really. the time were an aussie team can beat their chests and other cower are over. end of term report on this game. you sat the exam but your mind was else were. dpk

  • Nerk on November 27, 2011, 12:35 GMT

    Many people have written off the kiwis in this test series. But history has shown that when you write the kiwis off, they are at their most dangerous. They are the underdogs, and they love it!

  • Percy_Fender on November 27, 2011, 12:27 GMT

    Though New Zealand is a good side at present, I think they will lose to Australia or maybe halve it 1-1. Australia is generally very good at home and will do well.

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  • Percy_Fender on November 27, 2011, 12:27 GMT

    Though New Zealand is a good side at present, I think they will lose to Australia or maybe halve it 1-1. Australia is generally very good at home and will do well.

  • Nerk on November 27, 2011, 12:35 GMT

    Many people have written off the kiwis in this test series. But history has shown that when you write the kiwis off, they are at their most dangerous. They are the underdogs, and they love it!

  • bumsonseats on November 27, 2011, 12:37 GMT

    oh dear the plethera of aussie talent took a beating today. not many of those stood up and were counted, well none really. the time were an aussie team can beat their chests and other cower are over. end of term report on this game. you sat the exam but your mind was else were. dpk

  • on November 27, 2011, 12:52 GMT

    yeah thats the spirit dougie lets rip it up em,they think they got a easy win comin,come on you black caps

  • Sinhaya on November 27, 2011, 13:01 GMT

    Well said Brendon! Give out your very best. But your bowling cant get the Aussies out twice from what I see. Target Ponting intensely. He is too big headed.

  • on November 27, 2011, 14:56 GMT

    Same story, same result. Come on guys, every year you talk yourself up and fail. How about treating your opposition with a tiny bit of respect and don't wake the sleeping giant!

  • on November 27, 2011, 15:22 GMT

    If NZ can put up a good show against aussies ,that would really help india

  • Peterincanada on November 27, 2011, 15:34 GMT

    @NevadaSmith From what I've seen, unless we have helpful pitches, neither side looks capable of taking 20 wickets.I think 0-0 is a more likely scenario.

  • on November 27, 2011, 16:49 GMT

    Bravo....Brave Guy....but dear words dont win matches.... I hope u perform as good as you spoke now...and you win coz i would be as happy as you ,tough i am not new zealander but i like aussie loosing....

  • johnathonjosephs on November 27, 2011, 18:05 GMT

    At the moment, New Zealand, Pakistan, India, Australia, and South Africa are all evenly matched. Sri Lanka would be in that group too, but their side is out of form.England is slightly ahead of the lot and West Indies not too far behind