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'No decision yet on Pollard, Bravo and Narine'
Nagraj Gollapudi
July 27, 2012
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Kieron Pollard, Dwayne Bravo and Sunil Narine are yet to formally give their consent to represent Trinidad & Tobago, instead of their IPL franchises, in the forthcoming Champions League Twenty20, a T&T board official has told ESPNcricinfo. IPL franchises also say they are unaware of any decision taken by the players to represent T&T.
Earlier this week the T&T sports minister, Anil Roberts, had said that the three players agreed to sign the Memorandum of Understanding to play for their country instead of their IPL franchise. In return, the government would compensate them with a suitable match fee.
A T&T Cricket Board official, speaking on condition of anonymity, however told ESPNcricinfo that a final decision was yet to be reached. "The players have not yet signed on a contract either way, whether they would like to play for the IPL franchise or Trinidad and Tobago. (But) We should have a decision within the next 48 hours."
The three franchises that the players represent are IPL winners Kolkata Knight Riders, defending CLT20 champions Mumbai Indians and Chennai Super Kings; all three feature in the CLT20 to be held in South Africa this year. All three players have been influential performers for their respective franchises.
The CLT20 organisers have asked T&T to play the pre-tournament qualifiers, instead of giving the team a direct entry. T&T, who made the finals of the inaugural CLT20 in 2009, form part of a six-team qualifying pool, divided into two, with the winner from each set joining the top eight teams in the main event. The lack of direct entry has evoked criticism from the T&T board.
So far none of the players have commented on the issue in public but their franchises have not taken kindly to Roberts' comments. A Mumbai Indians spokesperson said that as far as they understand the situation, the T&T sports minister has spoken to the players or their agents but that no decision has yet been made on who the players will play for. Venky Mysore, the chief executive of Knight Riders, said in a text message that the franchise did not wish to comment at the moment but might have an update in a day or two. No one from the Super Kings' management could be reached for a comment.
The franchises' reaction contradicted Roberts' statement that he had explained to them the exact reason the players should be representing T&T. "So while they may be upset, I tell them I am very sorry they are upset, but the [T&T] population wants our best players, the government wants our best players," Roberts had said. "The players want to play for Trinidad & Tobago and they will play for Trinidad & Tobago."
There has been no official reaction yet from the CLT20 governing council, but Rajiv Shukla, chairman IPL governing council, said he was unaware about the development. "It is between the player and the franchises," Shukla told ESPNcricinfo. "Let the franchise approach us and then we will check."
The IPL Player Contract has a Clause 3.1 (i) containing three varying conditions regarding the players' CLT20 participation. The clause states that a player will play solely for a franchise in the IPL and in the CLT20 if the team qualifies for it unless the player is not selected for the squad or is released by the franchises "in its absolute discretion" to play for "another team which has qualified" for the CLT20. It is the third condition which leaves the situation open-ended stating that the player can play for another team in the CLT20 if, "the rules of the CLT20 (or any agreement to which the Franchisee has agreed) permit the Player to elect to play for another team (not being a team in the League) which has qualified for such CLT20 and the Player so elects." The rules of the IPL however state that it is the IPL franchise that has the first choice over a player in the CLT20. Under those conditions, the IPL franchisee has to pay the player's second club/ first-class team an amount approaching $150,000 per player.
Incidentally Pollard, Bravo and Narine were part of the T&T squad in the inaugural edition of the CLT20, when they lost to New South Wales in the final in 2009. But back then Pollard and Narine had no IPL contracts and Bravo had played for Mumbai Indians, who had not qualified for the CLT20.
Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo
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Look, country should always come first. This clause should be included in IPL contracts so that the players are not caught in awkward positions in the future. T&T gave the players their start in life as well as in cricket, so the least the players could do is be loyal and reciprocate. In this day and age of the " me first" attitude plus greed, it's easy to see how some players would be easily swayed in that direction. But we must stand up as men and do the right thing irrrespective of the consequences. Represent your country,men.
Posted by Dashgar on (July 30, 2012, 16:41 GMT)@Metman, you're wrong. They have a contract with an IPL team to play IPL (they also have a contract with T&T by the way). Even their IPL contract they can walk away from to play for West Indies although in the past they have not taken that opportunity. The reason this is a country issue is that Trinidad and Tobago is a country, as well as a cricket team. Not only that but T&T have a long cricketing history that no IPL team can possibly compare to. Their are many people in T&T who believe their nation should split from the West Indies, these games are a chance to justify that belief and play as a nation on a big stage. If India didn't have international status but got the chance to play this tournament then you would want them to have their best players playing.
Posted by satish619chandar on (July 30, 2012, 6:30 GMT)Let us be clear.. Even if it is the player's wish as this is a private tournament, i wish Popllard, Narine and Bravo turns up for their home team.. By this way, they can set up a example for other teams.. Will BCCI be quiet if a Yuvraj Singh represents a county team ignoring Pune Warriors? I feel the T&T board need to stay cool and make sure their players represent them and not IPL and go for the 200k$ they should offer..
Posted by Metman on (July 29, 2012, 14:56 GMT)Don't know what all the fuss is about.....those players are on contract to play for their IPL teams......break that contract and get sued,...result... NEVER play for the IPL teams again.It is quite obvious what they WILL do !
Posted byFor Gods sake CL20 is club level tournament like UEFA. Why is he trying to bring the country versus club loyalty issue in a tournament which is essentially a club tournament. By that logic Peterson should not play for England ever.
Posted byits not CLUB/Country. It is still Club/Club. Who will pay more there players will go.
Posted by ishfi on (July 29, 2012, 7:34 GMT)@sachin_vvsfan: same is the case with indian franchises dear. if those three play for T&T then three indian players will get chance to play for their respective franchises.how would you comment it then.
Posted by gtzshotta on (July 29, 2012, 5:39 GMT)Titans wouldn't match T&T's firepower especially in the bowling department.
Posted by Dashgar on (July 29, 2012, 2:45 GMT)All IPL teams saying these guys have an obligation and a contract to play for their IPL team wake up to yourself. They have the exact same obligation and contract to play for T&T too. Each one of these players made their names for T&T and West Indies before they ever played IPL. You may not have heard of them before that but the rest of the world definitely had. This IPL status quo in the champions league is really bad for the competition. CSK and Mumbai weren't even champions. They shouldn't even be at the champions league. How dare they take players off the champion team of West Indies.
Posted byWhilst I would like to see the 3 players represent T&T, the precedence has already been established by WICB by allowing Bravo, Pollard, Gayle, Narine and Samuel to play IPL instead of the WI during the time WI played England.
Posted by noplay on (July 28, 2012, 22:53 GMT)There is no easy decision here. If this is professional sport then as professionals they play for their clubs, their employers. They are contracted to the clubs, want the clubs to be successful and their tenure to be secure. Playing for T&T is not professional sport, as you see it could easily be political football. The minister might pay them this one time, but there is no long term commitment for better pay packages and perks. In terms of tenure T&T is not even close to a well organised club. These players did not become known in Trindad and Tobago. They became known on the CLT20 stage and the IPL.
Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (July 28, 2012, 22:39 GMT)This debate is really stupid. Of course they will choose their IPL clubs. It's immature first of all for the T&T minister to come up with the kind of statements that he did. Those days are gone when you sang war songs for your country. Cricket is now played professionally just like many other sports in the world. It's like asking David Beckham to only remain with an English club rather than playing for the L.A Galaxy. While morally it makes sense, financially and economically it's bogus. An athlete can choose to play where ever he/she wishes to cause at the end of the day country doesn't pay you much compared to some of these IPL clubs. Matter over.
Posted byits a easy decision for the players, country first club second
Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (July 28, 2012, 17:25 GMT)If these 3 players do not play for T&T that means this will give more opportunities for another 3 T&T players. Why dont they consider this point? besides the board should not be dictating them to do what they want as this is still club level tournament.
Posted by 777aditya on (July 28, 2012, 12:45 GMT)I hope they choose their country and set a good precedent - there are going to be enough IPL games next year too to fill their coffers!
Posted by Dirk_L on (July 28, 2012, 9:53 GMT)@gtzshotta: Titans have 7 of SA's ICC T20 squad: AB, both Morkels, Faf, De Lange, Behardien and Van der Merwe plus one test player Van der Merwe. They'll be on home ground. That squad might lose to any team -- but "blown away"? No.
Posted by rod77 on (July 28, 2012, 6:45 GMT)We should not forget that cricket is no longer an armature game,it's played on a professional level,so I'm sure the players should play for the team which offers them financial stability ,anyway this not a competition between countries it's a club level competition.so if the trio decided to play for their franchisees then they are not going against their country.
Posted by gtzshotta on (July 28, 2012, 5:34 GMT)If Narine/Bravo/Pollard play for T&T, they will blow away all other teams in this competition.
Posted byif they are getting the same compansation this is a no brainer! who wouldnt want to play for their country? stop wasting time and just assume the decision is made! unless the ipl sleuths have something up their sleeve to change it (as usual).
Posted by MasudRUETeee091040 on (July 28, 2012, 4:04 GMT)A very scocking news for the country.These players should be banned from all kinds of International cricket and domestic cricket.
Posted byfor all of u that say t&T hasn't qualified they av already qualified in January ok so get ur stats rite so narine,pollard,bravo t&T all the way
Posted by Meety on (July 27, 2012, 22:14 GMT)No offense to any of the players, but I'll be very surprised if any of them turn up for T & T. The short term view is, T & T miss out, (dissappointing), the long term view is, these guys get financially settled & can devote more attention to WIndies cricket! (I hope)!
Posted bylet the player decide with whom they wana play
Posted byThis is a good opportunity for Pollard, Bravo, and Narine to show the world the kind of human beings they are: Is it 'country above self', or, is it 'money at all costs'. For me it's a no-brainer, they should play for Trinidad, especially after getting an offer of compensation from their country. Come on Trinis, as the say in Jamaica: "Find the flag in your heart, and wave it!"
Posted by K.a.l.i.n.g.a_D_w.a.r.r.i.o.R on (July 27, 2012, 17:16 GMT)I am a Kolkata Knight Riders fan but i would love to see Narine 2 play for T&T... he was noticed for his performance in T&T team so he should not betray his team which brought him to limelight. Infact i would love to see Narine, Pollard & Bravo playing for T&T and help the team to qualify for main matches. Once they qualify that would b atreat to watch how these players are performing agnst their IPL franchises. Thos matches will be crackers. Plz plz plz all 3 of U play for T&T and help them to clinch the cash rich Champions Title.
Jst imagine >>>
:: Narine vs Gambhir, Mcculum & Yusuf ::
:: Pollard vs Malinga, Bhajji, Ojha, Munaf/RP Singh ::
:: Bravo vs Aswin, Hilfeanus, Bollinger ::
Posted byThis should be the players' decision to make. I wonder which team qualified for the CLT20 first. If the IPL franchises had qualified first, with Pollard, Bravo and Narine on their roster, then by all means they should represent Chennai, Mumbai and Kolkota. Since T&T has not qualified as yet for the CLT20 tournament, then I don;t see how they can insist that the players break their contract with their IPL franchises. Should they play for T&T in the qualifying rounds to try gain entry in the tournament, that would be another issue, but they cannot be asked to break their contracts with their IPL teams for the actual tournament. This is simply because those IPL teams are already in the tournament.
Posted byWhy are we wasting time on all this conjecture now ? T & T have not yet qualified for the CLT....for all we know, they might not qualify & no decision of this or that would be required.
Posted by Narbavi on (July 27, 2012, 14:39 GMT)It will be a disgrace if this trio plays for the ipl teams rather than trinidad and tobago, because in this situation one has to realize that T&T is not a club, they are a nation, this is not club vs club for these players to chose from, its nation vs club in a tournament, i already lost my respect for pollard after he chose to ignore his country during the last yr's tournament, now i will lose it for bravo and narine too if they repeat what pollard did!!
Posted by K.A.K on (July 27, 2012, 14:02 GMT)ICC must ensure that the players can make their own choice and are not pressured and/or penalized by IPL or T&T boards. It is a sports not a war.
Posted by cricket_expart on (July 27, 2012, 14:01 GMT)i think narine shuld bear in mind he has came 4m tnt in last year