ICC news November 14, 2011

Test Championship not until 2017 - Lorgat

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The ICC Test Championship will not be held before 2017, Haroon Lorgat, the ICC chief executive, has said. The tournament was initially scheduled for 2013, but it cannot be conducted before 2017 due to the ICC's commitments to its broadcaster and sponsors.

"I am afraid that [the Test championship] is no longer going to happen in 2013," Lorgat said in Dubai, where he was attending the second ODI between Sri Lanka and Pakistan. "At the last board meeting we decided the first opportunity to play the Test championship is 2017. I am disappointed it is not going to take place sooner but it is a reality of the commitments we have already got through to 2015."

The ICC's broadcast partner is ESPN STAR Sports*, with whom they have a contract till 2015. The Champions Trophy, the ICC's second-most significant one-day tournament, is scheduled to be played in June 2013 in England, but the ICC had hoped to convince all interested parties to switch that tournament to play-offs between the top four Test teams as per the ICC Test rankings.

However, after the ICC's executive board meeting in October, it released a statement saying there would be significant commercial challenges in replacing the Champions Trophy without the support and consent of the ICC's broadcast partner since the financial implications on the Members would be significant. Changing the tournament from a one-day one to Test play-offs would have required a substantial cut in the broadcast rights fee, which would have repercussions on the Members.

Lorgat, on Monday, said the switch would not be possible. "We attempted to switch the Champions Trophy to become a Test championship but that is not going to be possible."

The MCC criticised the ICC's decision, calling it "disappointing". "MCC has been very consistent in its support for Test cricket and the need for governing bodies to give the five day game a bit of a boost," John Stephenson, MCC Head of Cricket, said. "Today's announcement is a setback for Test cricket, at a time when we need to work to find the optimum balance between all formats of the game."

The Test championship is a concept aimed at increasing the popularity of Test cricket, something the ICC has consistently pledged their commitment to. Lorgat had said ahead of the ICC's last board meeting that hosting a Test Championship in 2013 would be ideal since "player and public interest in Test match cricket is at an all-time high". Lorgat, on Monday, maintained his stance that a championship would have been a positive move for Test cricket. "We attempted to form the World Test Championship which I think would have been a very good context in ensuring the primacy of Test cricket but again we will have to wait for 2017 to see that as a reality."

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  • dicky_boy on November 17, 2011, 19:29 GMT

    I think dr gonzo that is mainly because your team is really poor at cricket that u r not supporting it lol after seeing it whitewashed

  • on November 17, 2011, 13:04 GMT

    Test cricket is at death bed and frankly apart from the english and aussies the rest of the world harly cares about tests. The business model of the test championship is not good either, it is bound to make huge losses. I just hope test cricket dies before there is a cry to euthanise it.

  • drgonzo76 on November 17, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    Couldn't care less about the Champions Trophy. Never watched it in the past and I won't start watching it in 2013!

  • jever03 on November 16, 2011, 20:55 GMT

    4 words: Don't watch Champions Trophy!

  • Bhamo on November 16, 2011, 19:09 GMT

    Do ICC Executive board members think that in five years of time Test Cricket will be survived? Look at the crowd of Kolkata Test!! And if so, are they going to play on Neutral Grounds?? And how many people will take interest in those game which will be played in Neutral Grounds? Just one Example: NZ playing West Indies in Mumbai..If they are not going to use Neutral Grounds, there is no points of Test Championship !!!

  • zico123 on November 16, 2011, 16:54 GMT

    very poor decision by ICC to pospone Test championship because it would give them less profit compared to 50 overs Champions trophy. Test Championship was needed to take place now in order to hep Test cricket sustain its pinnacle, by 2017 i doubt Test cricket would be alive, as T20 is killing Test cricket, whats the point of having test championship in 2017 when there will be no Tendulkar, no Kallis, no Dravid, no Laxman, no Sehwag

  • PeterCook on November 16, 2011, 14:17 GMT

    It's delayed becayse they know England will win it and they don't want that to happen.

  • satish619chandar on November 16, 2011, 11:53 GMT

    @davidpk : I guess you got it wrong.. Wherever India plays(Apart from India due to more number of matches played here at high ticket costs), we do see a good crowd(And crowd comes to support India even in England and Australia).. These days, cricket revenue is not based only on the revenue generated in the ground.. As you might be seeing in the forums too, Indians and Pakistanis outnumber others very easily.. Subcontinent is the heart of cricket is my point..

  • Cam_PT on November 16, 2011, 1:53 GMT

    ICC grow some balls. I think you've lost them.

  • 2.14istherunrate on November 15, 2011, 22:06 GMT

    @rickp15- 2007 WC was held in the Carribean but through the efforts of ICC and sponsors it was not allowed to be the party tournament one would have hoped for and resembled more a wet Monday than a West Indian tournament to the point thatWest Indian spectaors in the main could not go to the games because of price hikes and bans on the instruments which give the Carribean game its singular flavour. Bycontrast WC 2011 was a relatively colourful affair which displayed the home flavour properly. Further getting the highest deals in broadcasting rights Boards may actually be preventing wider audiences receiving viewing access as in UK. Big money can turn out to be a curse not a blessing!!!

  • dicky_boy on November 17, 2011, 19:29 GMT

    I think dr gonzo that is mainly because your team is really poor at cricket that u r not supporting it lol after seeing it whitewashed

  • on November 17, 2011, 13:04 GMT

    Test cricket is at death bed and frankly apart from the english and aussies the rest of the world harly cares about tests. The business model of the test championship is not good either, it is bound to make huge losses. I just hope test cricket dies before there is a cry to euthanise it.

  • drgonzo76 on November 17, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    Couldn't care less about the Champions Trophy. Never watched it in the past and I won't start watching it in 2013!

  • jever03 on November 16, 2011, 20:55 GMT

    4 words: Don't watch Champions Trophy!

  • Bhamo on November 16, 2011, 19:09 GMT

    Do ICC Executive board members think that in five years of time Test Cricket will be survived? Look at the crowd of Kolkata Test!! And if so, are they going to play on Neutral Grounds?? And how many people will take interest in those game which will be played in Neutral Grounds? Just one Example: NZ playing West Indies in Mumbai..If they are not going to use Neutral Grounds, there is no points of Test Championship !!!

  • zico123 on November 16, 2011, 16:54 GMT

    very poor decision by ICC to pospone Test championship because it would give them less profit compared to 50 overs Champions trophy. Test Championship was needed to take place now in order to hep Test cricket sustain its pinnacle, by 2017 i doubt Test cricket would be alive, as T20 is killing Test cricket, whats the point of having test championship in 2017 when there will be no Tendulkar, no Kallis, no Dravid, no Laxman, no Sehwag

  • PeterCook on November 16, 2011, 14:17 GMT

    It's delayed becayse they know England will win it and they don't want that to happen.

  • satish619chandar on November 16, 2011, 11:53 GMT

    @davidpk : I guess you got it wrong.. Wherever India plays(Apart from India due to more number of matches played here at high ticket costs), we do see a good crowd(And crowd comes to support India even in England and Australia).. These days, cricket revenue is not based only on the revenue generated in the ground.. As you might be seeing in the forums too, Indians and Pakistanis outnumber others very easily.. Subcontinent is the heart of cricket is my point..

  • Cam_PT on November 16, 2011, 1:53 GMT

    ICC grow some balls. I think you've lost them.

  • 2.14istherunrate on November 15, 2011, 22:06 GMT

    @rickp15- 2007 WC was held in the Carribean but through the efforts of ICC and sponsors it was not allowed to be the party tournament one would have hoped for and resembled more a wet Monday than a West Indian tournament to the point thatWest Indian spectaors in the main could not go to the games because of price hikes and bans on the instruments which give the Carribean game its singular flavour. Bycontrast WC 2011 was a relatively colourful affair which displayed the home flavour properly. Further getting the highest deals in broadcasting rights Boards may actually be preventing wider audiences receiving viewing access as in UK. Big money can turn out to be a curse not a blessing!!!

  • on November 15, 2011, 21:26 GMT

    Dislike !!! :( . This could have been a boost to Test cricket in more ways than one !!

  • on November 15, 2011, 20:36 GMT

    by then no one amongst Sachin,Dravid,Laxman,Sehwag,Zaheer would be there :(

  • on November 15, 2011, 18:36 GMT

    @Robster1: stop inserting the BCCI in every matter,& speak something insightful instead.

  • cenadhoni on November 15, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    Test Championship can wait. Quality right now and overall is very poor.

    (1) Australia is 21-9 (2) India 4-0 (3) SriLanka only compete and slip up. Albeit - they will like to add to their Runner up Trophy Collections (4) Pakistan is no ball & no home (5) West Indies - Saami, Can't bare Sammy for five days. (6) Oh I forgot the Fifth team... The Brendon McCullum's Team (7) Bangladesh is Zimbabwe - I rather read Sharda Ugra's "Dhoni's Failure with Coin" (8)Zimbabwe is Bangladesh - I rather read Sharda Ugra's "Father plays a Hand in Anirudha's Selection in Celebrity Exhibition Match" (9) South Africa is the Only Team good enough to play Test Championship. But they will lose to one of above team in the Last Match before the Tournament and will slip from #1 to joint #4 and will not qualify on any available elimination rules and AB will become the Fourth Best Post Choke Press Conference Specialist after Hansie, Smith and Indian Hockey Team.

    Champions Trophy - What an Idea Sirji. One Tr

  • fkbill on November 15, 2011, 17:41 GMT

    that's the most amazing thing I've heard! pressure from PCB?? and Asif and Salman wll finish their ICC ban after 7 and 10 years respectively.so they can not play it only Aamir can.

  • bumsonseats on November 15, 2011, 17:33 GMT

    who out of the cricketing nations wants to have this competition in their own countries. as english i dont want us to have it . i would rather go and watch a test series against a team touring that year. who gets the money from tickets, the icc which in turn would be given to the teams in the comp and their coffers, say ind,eng, aus,sa, as prize money. the tests that england play in their summer will number 7 of that all the money after expenses go to the ecb. if i did go to 1 of the test champonship games i would not go to a english test against the touring team that toured that season i could not afford both. the ecb will suffer. and the things the ecb do for cricket in the uk. dpk

  • rickp15 on November 15, 2011, 17:27 GMT

    @maximum6 - what about the very successful WC in 2011 and huge $ in broadcaster rights obtained by ICC for Cricket ( mainly to carry ODI/T20) that supports today's Test cricket. Don't be short sighted speak the facts and because without ODI/20T TV dollars test cricket would be nothing ( maybe not in England, but then again they do not bring the revenue for ICC, or world cricket so who cares). Its the TV eyes that the broadcaster want and you won't get them watching boooooring Test cricket....watching paint dry maybe. Got to move with the times and get rid of Old.....

  • on November 15, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    The test championship will dilute interest in bilateral test matches. To sustain interest, the test championship should be restricted to top 3 teams with a knock-out match between team ranked 2 and 3 and then the final with the tournament needing only less than 2 weeks. This way teams will have more incentive in bilateral test matches to be in top 3 ranking sides.

  • dicky_boy on November 15, 2011, 17:18 GMT

    Haha these English fans just see one series , we can bat anywhere looking at our one day scores in England and scores in sa, while poor England they don't even know how to play spin, even their captain says it is a skill issue lol that's why consistent thrashing in India , no way r they deserving no one , we lost just once and win consistently barring a few losses.they don't have the class to play spin

  • rickp15 on November 15, 2011, 17:07 GMT

    @Ramesh_Joseph..... You are spot on. ODI and T20 supports what's left of Test cricket, it takes way too long and to sit through 5 days and at times ending in a draw!!! what a Joke!!! As we say here in North America watching paint dry is more exciting then watching Test Cricket. what a waste of time is test cricket. I live in the land of the NFL ( worlds Richest league- TV money) and if game are not finished with a result in 3-4 hours then forget it. NO wonder the Broadcaster's ( today's smart money) won't buy into Test Cricket and the ICC knows that. So lets defer it until 2017, and the clowns at ICC are hoping that broadcasters buy into the test Championship format- not going to happen. I personally think test cricket should be extinct by then. T20 cricket is the new order- welcome to new world , hope to see you soon here in the good old USA!

  • 2.14istherunrate on November 15, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    5th attempt to get a posting on this news. Well it's like this I reckon. Test cricket is not a priority to ICC and I doubt if there ever will be a Test Championship. After all they cou;ld have said 2014 instead, if they were were sincere. The trouble is for all you t20 fans, you don't seem to actually like cricket. Simple. End of story. Cricket worked fine before T20 and will work fine again after t20. The fact is that bureaucrats and money men never look beyoind the leger. Same old tawdry story. Talent has no place in such a grey world, just the stench of filthy lucre.So as long as the world goes round excellence will always be forfeit to commercialism. I think it is probably true that ICC/BCCI lost heart after 4-0 thrashing of Indian team. Fact is that England won, rather than India lost. Strong positive leadership might have served cricket better than this abject spinelsss display of grovellijg supineness from ICC. Another sad offering from the team that gave us 2007 WC

  • Robster1 on November 15, 2011, 16:27 GMT

    Errr...can't we just have a simple annual test championship league, with two divisions of six teams and promotion/relegation. Each country would play the others in its divsion once home and away so five tests at home and five overseas. Is it really that difficult to organise ? Shame though on the BCCI for again twisting things for its own personal benefit.

  • Pressan on November 15, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    This doesnt even make sense because when they announced it shouldnt the schedule and sponsors and all that be already covered?? 2013 at the latest was the perfect time ICC should be trying to get it in earlier not later, Especially with the contest we have witnessed over the few weeks Zim vs NZ was an absolute thriller Ind vs WI was a good contest for the most part and the SA vs Aus was well undiscribable so test cricket is at a high sure not in India, theyve had a cricket overload but look over the next few months its going to be some exciting matches with Ind in Aus the most looking forward to then we have 2012 which will have SA in Eng and Aus and Eng going to Ind thats some great stuff and a Test Championship would have been the pinacle and by 2013 Aus would have been a force to be reckon with again with some young talent(Cummings fro eg) wud be experienced guys, eng would stay in a simliar position as their in now sa would just get better and Ind idk but we need TEST CHAMIONSHIP

  • nlambda on November 15, 2011, 15:44 GMT

    I think this delay is due to pressure from PCB as they want to bring back Aamer, Asif and Butt for the championship. 6 year delay suits them just fine...

  • bumsonseats on November 15, 2011, 15:11 GMT

    satish619 your words dont bare the truth. just look at the crowds at the 1st test v WI very poor. i think when u say crowds. you shoud mentioned paying crowds/ non paying crowds, as there is talk of letting the indian pubic in for free as the crowds were going to be so poor. theres only eng and aus who can say the attendances at both countries bring in many million of pounds/dollars in gate receipts. you mention pakistan other than icc comps u never play them !. what u get and i agree is many millions watching on tv/pc. i just did some sums when aus/ind/sa play at lords they will take in over £1,200.00.00 ( 1 million two hundred thousand pound ) over 4 days. thats against the big boys in cricket. yes i know i know, im still counting the aussies in that. they like us in oz still put bums on seats. dpk

  • bumsonseats on November 15, 2011, 14:40 GMT

    ouch randyoz it still hurts dont it. i know your pain. does not matter who beats england its not the same as u beating england. as swann says on the video on cricinfo today about england been top, when he thinks about it in 20 years time he could not care less or maybe not remember much of it. but what he will remember is the crushing defeat on the aussies in the ashes in their own country. you can try and hurt us with your opinion of what you will do to us in 2 years time. it dont matter a fig. we own the ashes. so when the ashes arrive we will still have the same bowlers who put u to the sword in oz and will do it again. dpk

  • on November 15, 2011, 14:35 GMT

    This is very sad for the lovers of Test cricket .Was looking forward for the championship . Till 2017 there will be no greats left in the test cricketto be watched. This was the right time to play a Test Championship .

  • dicky_boy on November 15, 2011, 14:13 GMT

    Kalyan bk not many times , Australia won only once in India for the past thirty years

  • ashes61 on November 15, 2011, 13:54 GMT

    I originally thought the idea of a Test championship was another gimmick by this current dysfunctional ICC. Whether it was or not, I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this latest announcement (although it was hinted at last month). I don't understand the doubts about its format as I thought this had already been fixed. The top four ranked Test countries play two semis & a final in England. Simple enough. Obviously, England was chosen because it is the only country that can virtually guarantee full houses for each day of all matches. (Do fans in other countries realise how expensive Test cricket is here every summer? And yet Lord's & the Oval are completely sold out months in advance and most of the others not far off that, unless the oppo is minor or it is too early in the season). India play in empty grounds, even in Delhi & Calcutta, S Africa almost as bad, even v. ENG or AUS. If AUS could guarantee full houses for, say, SA v IND or SL, then they should get a turn too.

  • Ramesh_Joseph on November 15, 2011, 13:49 GMT

    I dont think the ICC or any board can do anything to make people interested in Test Cricket. We have to accept that times change and with it people's tastes too change. How many youngsters today follow Test Cricket? The best that the Boards can do is to introduce Night Test Cricket..Dont expect people to waste 5 working days to watch cricket in these competitive times. At the end of the day any sport will thrive only if public interest is sustained and Test cricket has lost the interest of majority of cricket followers. Today test cricket is not able to sustain itself...It is being subsidised by the money made by ODIs and T20.

  • dicky_boy on November 15, 2011, 13:28 GMT

    Exactly julian Dawson you said it yourself you love it, but the majority consumers do not see it so for financial reasons, it's plain and simple ICC is giving everyone what they want

  • kalyanbk on November 15, 2011, 13:10 GMT

    Without Sehwag, test cricket will lose a lot of viewership and revenue. Who knows who will be playing or which country will be doing well in 2017? strike the iron when hot or gamble on the unknown? England fans need to take a chill pill. one series that too at home does not prove you are the best. India beat Australia many times at home when they were at their peak.

  • Romenevans on November 15, 2011, 13:09 GMT

    Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn! Postpone it as long as you can...Nobody is interested, specially if it is tailor made for green top bullies. Yawn Again!

  • Timmuh on November 15, 2011, 13:05 GMT

    Hopefully when it does begin, they will get it right. That means a full series, preferably of five matches but three would suffice for the final - with no other international cricket and no top-level domestic T20 on at the same time. For a month or so, the whole cricket world can focus on one Test series the same way that we focus on limited overs cricket during the World Cup, or everything comes to a standstill for the IPL circus.

  • on November 15, 2011, 12:34 GMT

    Yet again the ICC states one thing and does something completely different. It is simply playing lip service to test cricket and is not acting in the best interests of the game, and the form of the game, I love.

  • AlanHarrison on November 15, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    @davidpk: I don't agree that 'the present system of test cricket has been ok for over a 100 years'. Test cricket has constantly changed over the 135 years of its existence. The first tests were played on sticky wickets over three days, and then there was a phase of playing them until they finished. Then we've had six-day tests, five-day tests, covered pitches, uncovered pitches, frequent draws and early starts to make up lost time, everything from 7- to 2-match series, and more recently back-to-back tests, floodlights, instant replay and DRS. Even within what statisticians call "test cricket", the game is immensely different from what it was when it was first played. In this sense, I don't see why there shouldn't be another experiment, this time with a test championship. However, I do agree that it is a little hard at the moment to see how such a tournament would work successfully. Perhaps it would be tried once, like the triangular tournament of 1912 or the "supertest" of 2005.

  • on November 15, 2011, 12:30 GMT

    By the time 2017 come the likes of sachin, drawid, laxman, ponting, kallis has not been found as these players has taken retirement from the international cricket. These palyers has contributed more than 15 years to international cricket. For the players like dravid kallis laxman and sachin who are playing cricket for so long will definatly not get for playing test championshio. Well lets hope for good.

  • Sportsscientist on November 15, 2011, 12:17 GMT

    Test cricket IS the PINNACLE......ODI & T20 cricket is more lucrative, easier to market and more entertaining, but they are not BETTER forms of the game. The demands of test cricket have proven this. There has to be a balance between a valid viable test championship to maintain the games standards, and all the ODI's & T20's to keep the audiences and TV deals and sponsors. It can be done. I've mentioned my suggestion before. The problem is will the test championship format be viable? ICC you've got 5 years come up with something credible PLEASE!!!!

  • Yevghenny on November 15, 2011, 11:56 GMT

    So if India had drawn the series in England, this would have been going ahead in 2013?

  • satish619chandar on November 15, 2011, 11:56 GMT

    @davidpk : To be fair, apart from Ashes, it is the subcontinent crowd that keeps the tests(in fact, the game) alive.. Anywhere in the world, India and Pakistan manage to attract the crowd. .Even in England, we can see equal support for Indians.. No crowd in India is simply due to the conditions here.. High humidity and hot sun makes ppl to confine to television and internet to enjoy the game..

  • D.V.C. on November 15, 2011, 11:01 GMT

    @Rishi Sharma: don't worry Dravid will still be there.

  • bumsonseats on November 15, 2011, 10:47 GMT

    im not to bothered if it never happens, and why should if ever happen. the present system of test cricket has been ok for over a 100 years. england would be the only country it could be held in. as it would be the only country were the crowds would come in numbers. and to be true only eng and sa could win it here maybe pakistan if they had their correct heads on, as the team with the best pace bowlers would win. but all in all a waste of time. dpk

  • Rocket_180 on November 15, 2011, 10:40 GMT

    Lets just hope that enough people get behind the Testing Times campaign then who know the real cricket fans in us can join together to be heard as 1 big voice

  • nav84 on November 15, 2011, 10:34 GMT

    actually its good it got postponed. wld have been a waste just like super series (3 ODIs and a test) that was played a few years ago between australia (the then no1) and rest of the world in australia.

  • IndiaNumeroUno on November 15, 2011, 10:17 GMT

    getting past one test match is boring enough... can't imagine a whole tournament!

    the question is if they do start this atrocity in 2017, how many years will the tournament take to complete LOL !!

  • RandyOZ on November 15, 2011, 9:51 GMT

    @5wombats, for the first time I completely agree with you. However it is also lucky for England because by 2013 we will be the best team on Earth again.

  • mathewjohn2176 on November 15, 2011, 9:45 GMT

    I want srilanka and Australia to be in top 4 by 2017.Both srilanka and Australia need to rebuild and I guess this delay will make these two teams to prepare well.@5wombat,if that's your reason,then why icc didn't keep the test championship when India ranked no.1 last year.you should worry about England,by next year when they tour subcontinent,they will fall below top four.

  • dicky_boy on November 15, 2011, 9:31 GMT

    @ Jasonpete bulls eye mate ur r echoing what everyone is thinking here, but I think mr wombatt is slightly off in his calculation, England will lose it by next year. After srilanka,Pakistan and India thrash the English team

  • jasonpete on November 15, 2011, 9:28 GMT

    It's disappointing,but by 2017 I want my team Australia to be in top 4.we need to build up a strong team for ashes and test championship.

  • Seether1 on November 15, 2011, 9:04 GMT

    Guys I can understand the frustration that you are feeling. However it is us fans/supporters that control the future of the 5-day game. The TV networks decides what to broadcast based on the expected viewership. Lets be honest, interest in Test match cricket is on the decline hence it is not commercially viable for them to broadcast a Test match instead of a 20-over game. So in essence, what a TV network decides to televise is a reflection of the demand of the audience. How many of us bemoan the imminent death of Test match cricket yet don't make an effort to get to the ground to actually watch and support the game. Sad state of affairs.

  • dicky_boy on November 15, 2011, 8:51 GMT

    All people who say test cricket is the pinnacle of test cricket well I am quoting the ICC "WC IS THE CUP THAT COUNTS" By HAROON LORGAT

  • jasonpete on November 15, 2011, 8:50 GMT

    It's really dissapointing ..@5wombats,you seem to worry a lot about India.lol..I know your worry,by 2017 England will be out of top four,so it's easy to give excuses.

  • on November 15, 2011, 8:30 GMT

    its tooo sade for tendulkar.,.,i think he will not going to play in that if it will be in 2017.,.,.,

  • D.V.C. on November 15, 2011, 8:25 GMT

    If the reason is commitments until 2015, why is it rescheduled for 2017 and not 2016?

  • Muyeen on November 15, 2011, 6:58 GMT

    its like falling in love at grade 5 and telling them I will marry you after I finish my graduation and get a job. u never know what sort of change u will go through or the other person goes through. by 2017 v dont know what changes test cricket will go through and the teams go through.. when v are kids and our parents keep postponing what we ask them..finally we say "if u dont wanna give dont say u will give later".

  • felzzz on November 15, 2011, 5:51 GMT

    hey guys.. before thinking about test chapmionship think whether this format will survive till 2017. may be this test champioship would be remembered as the last test series played in the history of cricket.

  • on November 15, 2011, 5:32 GMT

    how is losing players due to retirement a 'major loss for india'?:s now losing 4-0 to England is a major loss for india

  • Charindra on November 15, 2011, 5:32 GMT

    @Nish_US - Dude, it has nothing to do with "passion" for cricket. Sri Lanka has 20 million people who are actually passionate about the game, as demonstrated during the recent world cup. We in SL want SL to win, not for a batsman to score 100 even though we lose. India just happens to have more than double the population of all other test playing countries put together, so even if half your country is interested in cricket that's still a big deal.

  • kensohatter on November 15, 2011, 5:25 GMT

    Funny how we can make a hit and giggle tournament of 20/20 happen almost immediatley but are unable to prioritise our best version of the game. Cricket is on a very slippery slope of going after cash rather than tradition. Soon all the records of Test cricket, The achievements of Tendualker, McGrath, Warne, Akram, Lara, etc etc will be forgotten and 20/20 will become a watered down version of a once great game. If we continue to pursue this short version of the game we are essentially going to compete with baseball and once the MLB sees that 20/20 can be a success they will try and crack into those markets as well (its already happening in Australia with MLB investing $12million into growth here) sure they prob wont take a market like India immediatley but if the ICC loses market share in key countries like Australia, SA or Eng the game will be in very serious trouble long term. I for one believe my grandchildren wont be able to even enjoy test match cricket.

  • Shafi79 on November 15, 2011, 4:55 GMT

    5wombats is being absurd. I am not from India. (Am Sri Lankan) it's quite silly to claim India is on their way out of the top four due to one bad series ... who is going to take their place? We (SL) are having a bad time and are on our way down. PAK /NZ/WI are definitely not going to make the cut, so its gonna be ENG/SA/AUS/IND at the top four spots for sure. Exactly in what order i cant say for sure.

  • IndiaNeedsBowlers on November 15, 2011, 4:25 GMT

    A couple of things about the Test Championship - 1. How long will it last? 2. Will it be hosted in one country, or will there be an home away kind of play offs? 3. How many people watch test matches for 5 days - the ones where either one side dominates the complete match or where we have first innings being played for 4 days? 4. With some test matches ending in 3 or 4 days, what happens to the commercial interest on the 5th day? Although I think that a World Test championship is a very intresting concept, I'm not sure how practical it would be. I thouroughly enjoy the bilateral test series, but not sure how a competition involving more than 2 teams would go.

  • westeast on November 15, 2011, 4:00 GMT

    what a shame!! The test match has no respect!!!

  • satish619chandar on November 15, 2011, 3:43 GMT

    @Pressan : Is it intentional or you forgot to mention a trio(A bit good in batting) who are playing against WI!! @OhhhhMattyMatty : India hopeless in tests? Keep dreaming mate..

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 15, 2011, 3:41 GMT

    England World champions!!! my foot!!!...they r gonna lost the NO:1 rankings soon!!!. They may be reach at the bottom at 2017...and may be because of that their fan's afraid of a championship in 2017!!! If it is going to be in sub-continent, England will boycott the series for sure!!!!LOL

  • on November 15, 2011, 3:03 GMT

    Hang on a minute guys . Why do you think broadcasters prefer the Champions trophy over the Test championship? Because there is more viewership for the former. They are in the business of providing cricket telecast to cricket fans and I guess when it comes to putting our money where our mouth is, we fall short. And @5wombats - really? Is that what you infered from this article - that BCCI is sabotaging the Test championship to protect their commercial interest?

  • 9ST9 on November 15, 2011, 2:48 GMT

    disappointing - this comes on top of the news that i heard that next Years India - SL test series would be replaced by a 3 T20,5 ODI Series to please the broadcasters. Cricket is becoming somthing like WWE now isn't it? Having said that series' like the recent SL-PAK 3 test abomination are doing nothing 2 improve test crickets popularity.

  • redneck on November 15, 2011, 2:19 GMT

    good! if it were held in 2013 it would have been a rush job cobbled together. atleast 2017 gives time to properly sort out the format of the championship and a fair way to qualify for it. on another note how does england get the champions trophy??? they had the 99 world cup, 04 champions trophy, 09 20/20. meanwhile out here in oz and nz we jointly held the 92 world cup, and thats it. even bangledesh has had that more recent and held a champions trophy. this should be given to new zealand to host outright, given they have never held a final for any icc event ever despite being one of its oldest members!!! and wasnt the whole point of the champions trophy to take top level cricket to less travelled cricket destinations. hence why bangledesh and kenya have hosted it!

  • rahulcricket007 on November 15, 2011, 2:03 GMT

    @5WOMBATS . INDIA IS ON NO.3 . OK . WHY WOULD BCCI DO THIS? IN 2017 DEFINITELY THERE WILL BE NO SACHIN , DRAVID , LAXMAN , ZAHEER . WHILE ENGLAND WOULD STILL HAVE BROAD , BRESNAN , TREMLETT , KP , MORGAN , BELL COOK . MAJOR LOSS WILL BE TO INDIA . THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE BLAMING BCCI .

  • Nish_US on November 15, 2011, 0:43 GMT

    To 5wombats -- Why is England not able to generate the so called revenue for cricket.....

    I do not think India is so affluent that its cricket revenue is more than all the other top 5 test playing nations, SA, AUS, ENG, SL and NZ together.... that it can dictate the terms....

    But if it so, then I am PROUD of the Indian passion for cricket to generate such a revenue for the game....

  • me54321 on November 15, 2011, 0:35 GMT

    Gutted, but not that surprised. Very short sighted attitude from the broadcasters. They're worried about India not being in the top 4, but who's going to take that 4th spot? The Champions trophy is irrelevant, and having it in England is a waste of time. I really doubt there will be much interest in the tournament, and now there'll also be plenty of resentment from the local fans. I hope it fails completely, and the decision makers realise what the correct decision should have been.

  • dicky_boy on November 15, 2011, 0:13 GMT

    Mr wombatt what is problem with India uh , for everything bcci this bcci that, We play well throughout the world except one bad series, we compete everywhere, this summer has been an exception,while England get thrashed every time in the subcontinent They will lose no one and will drop out of the top four for sure after the subcontinent comtinous tours, we have been no one for 2 years unlike England who has been for a few months ,please talk about your own team,cricinfo please publish

  • nlambda on November 14, 2011, 23:17 GMT

    On what basis are you guys saying that India are on their way out of top 4? We are still #3 and WAY ahead of other teams. Australia with 47 all out are not looking like overtaking us anytime soon and Sri Lanka w/o Murali are on their way to #6 or 7. Most of Pak's players bat like they are playing T20 and we know what Pak's fielding is like. The only reason for India bashing in these comments is JEALOUSY of our financial might.

  • Yevghenny on November 14, 2011, 22:01 GMT

    the players love playing test cricket. It is the highest level of the game

  • 5wombats on November 14, 2011, 20:54 GMT

    What a load of rubbish! With india flirting with dropping out of the "Top 4" the BCCI... er, sorry, the ICC have moved to protect their interests, i.e - the Television revenues from India. It's a disaster that Test Match Cricket is at the tender mercies of a group who clearly don't give a flying fig about it. I just had the pleasure of taking my son to his first Test match (Lords 2011 V India). In 1968 my dad took me (Lords 1968 V Aus... it rained), my grandfather took my dad (Lords 1948 V Aus). I wonder if there will be any Test match cricket for my son to take his children to? It's enough to make you cry.

  • LillianThomson on November 14, 2011, 20:50 GMT

    2017??????That's so soon that Mohammad Amir, Salman Butt and Mohammed Asif will be eligible to play! Is the ICC the custodian of cricket or just its commercial vendor?

  • cricfan800 on November 14, 2011, 20:42 GMT

    ...2017..?What the..?????What are they doing!!!!!!!!This makes me laugh!!hahahahahahaahha!! :P

  • on November 14, 2011, 20:30 GMT

    Ridiculous...God knows whether Test Cricket will be there in 2017 r not and even if its there, I seriously doubt whether the players have the patience to play it for 5 days. If you always keep (short term) commercial interests in mind, when will the game grow. ICC just lost a great opportunity to boost the interest of the game...Disappointing... I am an Indian and don't bother whether India is in the top 4 r not. I just want the Test championship to happen to sustain interest in the longer form of the game...period.

  • BellCurve on November 14, 2011, 20:21 GMT

    This has to be a mistake. Surely it is not only in the interest of the game, but also in the commercial interest of all involved to use this unique opportunity. Interest in Test cricket is at an all-time high and legendary players such as Tendulkar and Kallis are still active. I truly hope the ICC would reconcider. I am fairly sure they have not added up the numbers correctly. The Test championship just has to be more lucrative than another meaningless ODI tournament. Surely?

  • on November 14, 2011, 20:20 GMT

    Another example of money ruling the game (or should that be business?). Very sad. Test Cricket is pinnacle form of the game and should be promoted as such. So in 2017 will we still have the Tendulkars, Pontings, Pietersens, Kallis', Sangakkarras and Chanderpauls to name just a few who could *potentially* have played... Very doubtful. I agree with most people on here - this is a complete farce, giving in to a second-rate (at best) tournament. Shame on you ICC, shame.

  • Nish_US on November 14, 2011, 19:50 GMT

    With the recent crowd support (or the lack of it) for test cricket, looks like ICC has pulled the plug on test cricket itself. It is a shame that they could not arrange for atleast a three match knockout championship, with top 4 playing.

    without dravid,laxman, tendulkar, shehwag, Zaheer, mahela, sangakkara, ponting, Hussey, KP, Anderson, chanderpaul, Smith, Kallis, steyn, younis khan, Vettori - test championship would be pointless... We already missed Kumble, Warne, Murali, Mcgrath, Ntini, Hayden and others in the last few years, who deserve to feature in such a championship....

    2017 would be too late for TESTS....

  • bobmartin on November 14, 2011, 19:37 GMT

    The first thing is, why would the ICC make the announcement of the 2013 timescale, when nothing was cast in stone, so they are saying now.. Surely it would have been better to keep quiet about it until all the snags had been ironed out.. The suspicion is that the delay is to hope that India can improve on their current form, which suggest that in 2013 they would not have been in the top 4 and therefore ineligible. However, since 2017 seems to be the date, assuming they don't find some other reason for delaying it again, then certainly a lot of the current superstars will be missing.. But nothing stands still without getting left behind, in 6 years time we may well have a whole new crop of superstars.

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on November 14, 2011, 19:36 GMT

    There's a shock! India exposed as Test no hopers and suddenly the Test Championship is put back! Embarrassing from the BCCI! England will be named World Test Champions in 2013. This makes no difference. England are WORLD TEST CHAMPIONS!

  • LeScotsman on November 14, 2011, 19:21 GMT

    Yet again, the ICC announces an initiative only to backtrack and announce the opposite a couple of months later. The administrators are all over the place. It is killing the game.

    Do we have international cricket for entertainment, or does it exist merely to make money for a few people selling advertising?

    How on earth did we let control of cricket fall into the hands of these people? It is going to be very hard to wrestle control back. The only hope is if great people, like Steve Waugh or Michael Holding, get involved at the executive level. Unfortunately, they have said they don't have the stomach for it.

    If good people don't stand up and take control now, cricket is doomed. These idiots care nothing for the welfare and development of the game. They are there to screw every last dollar out of it. Don't be surprised if they announce cricket in xxx country is cancelled because ''it costs too much money.'' That is where we are heading.

  • wambling_future on November 14, 2011, 19:20 GMT

    Come on guys quickly start blaming BCCI for this.... !!!

  • fanofteamindia on November 14, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    Well I feel this Test championship is extremely flawed and am happy that it is not going to happen. you cannot decide the world champions by asking three teams to play knock out rounds in an alien country. It will favor the hosts tremendously than other forms as favorable conditions are vital for winning tests. Also winning one test cannot establish supremacy of one team over another, especially among the top four, let alone calling the winning team the world champions. Also, I feel the existing ranking system is very relevant since all the teams are striving to get to the top. Also, the teams play home and away, so the home advantage is somewhat neutralised. A 2 tier system of test playing nations with relegation and promotion will make more sense and increase the excitement than this proposed tournament.

  • Asghar_Shahzad on November 14, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    Hopefully, cricket lovers will see some new greats from qualifying nations. Especially, I keep my finger crossed for upcoming legends from Pakistan...Aamir, Umar, Azhar, Junaid & Co.

  • johnathonjosephs on November 14, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    Forget Test Championship, I would like ICC to take control of the Test tours. I'm tired of watching India/Sri Lanka playing ONLY at home and South Africa playing too less matches. Tired of watching too many England/Aus matches and its sad to see Bangladesh get more Test Tours than Sri Lanka or New Zealand. Would like to see systematically tours given. In this day and age it wouldn't be too hard.

  • on November 14, 2011, 18:32 GMT

    I wanted this to happen.... It would be great to see Sachin, Kallis, Laxman, Dravid, Ponting, Chanders, Gayle, Sehwag, Kevin, Steyn, Zaheer, Younis Khan all together... i doubt we would miss all these greats.... disappointing.

  • AdnanSiddiqui on November 14, 2011, 17:18 GMT

    Good news for Pakistan ... Now Pakistan can surely qualify as top 4 cricketing nations ... It was close to impossible to play this championship in 2013.

  • on November 14, 2011, 16:49 GMT

    Hope that broadcasters will show some love for cricket and not only money! Lets get the Test Championship going at the earliest!!

  • on November 14, 2011, 16:48 GMT

    Really Sad..ICC is trying now but the broadcasters are pulling them away...it would have been ideal to have it in 2013 as lots of player who are in teams currently would have played...these players are of test quality and would have made for a spectacle..sadly broadcasters are in money minting mindset and fear their cash will take a hut..Bad more is the fact that by 2017 who know Test would have lost its charm in public eye completely because the ever increasing 20-20s will continue to increase and Tests will be sidelined..a shame really!!

  • Yevghenny on November 14, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    no room for a test championship, what with 80 million t20 franchise tournaments taking place every year wherever they could cram them in

  • Pressan on November 14, 2011, 16:10 GMT

    Then honestly how can u call it a test championship?? U need the best to play in it..You wont see the majority of the Indian greats(That The superb 4), u wont see the South african Greats The legendary Kallis, boucher probably not Steyn(The Best Bowler in the world by faaaaar) or smith, Mahela or Sangakarra wont make it either, Jimmy anderson(the 2nd best bowler) Kevin Pieterson, bell shudnt be there,graeme swann (best spinner), no ricky ponting, mike hussey, clarke all australian greats, no vettori and if west indies by some miracle make it no chanderpaul and there are so many other great players who wont make it and of some of the current stars do make it they will probably be wanning and near there ends of the career and thers no telling if theyl stil be as great then. So I dont see what the ICC r doing...Extreamly poor and sad stuff from the ICC.

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  • Pressan on November 14, 2011, 16:10 GMT

    Then honestly how can u call it a test championship?? U need the best to play in it..You wont see the majority of the Indian greats(That The superb 4), u wont see the South african Greats The legendary Kallis, boucher probably not Steyn(The Best Bowler in the world by faaaaar) or smith, Mahela or Sangakarra wont make it either, Jimmy anderson(the 2nd best bowler) Kevin Pieterson, bell shudnt be there,graeme swann (best spinner), no ricky ponting, mike hussey, clarke all australian greats, no vettori and if west indies by some miracle make it no chanderpaul and there are so many other great players who wont make it and of some of the current stars do make it they will probably be wanning and near there ends of the career and thers no telling if theyl stil be as great then. So I dont see what the ICC r doing...Extreamly poor and sad stuff from the ICC.

  • Yevghenny on November 14, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    no room for a test championship, what with 80 million t20 franchise tournaments taking place every year wherever they could cram them in

  • on November 14, 2011, 16:48 GMT

    Really Sad..ICC is trying now but the broadcasters are pulling them away...it would have been ideal to have it in 2013 as lots of player who are in teams currently would have played...these players are of test quality and would have made for a spectacle..sadly broadcasters are in money minting mindset and fear their cash will take a hut..Bad more is the fact that by 2017 who know Test would have lost its charm in public eye completely because the ever increasing 20-20s will continue to increase and Tests will be sidelined..a shame really!!

  • on November 14, 2011, 16:49 GMT

    Hope that broadcasters will show some love for cricket and not only money! Lets get the Test Championship going at the earliest!!

  • AdnanSiddiqui on November 14, 2011, 17:18 GMT

    Good news for Pakistan ... Now Pakistan can surely qualify as top 4 cricketing nations ... It was close to impossible to play this championship in 2013.

  • on November 14, 2011, 18:32 GMT

    I wanted this to happen.... It would be great to see Sachin, Kallis, Laxman, Dravid, Ponting, Chanders, Gayle, Sehwag, Kevin, Steyn, Zaheer, Younis Khan all together... i doubt we would miss all these greats.... disappointing.

  • johnathonjosephs on November 14, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    Forget Test Championship, I would like ICC to take control of the Test tours. I'm tired of watching India/Sri Lanka playing ONLY at home and South Africa playing too less matches. Tired of watching too many England/Aus matches and its sad to see Bangladesh get more Test Tours than Sri Lanka or New Zealand. Would like to see systematically tours given. In this day and age it wouldn't be too hard.

  • Asghar_Shahzad on November 14, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    Hopefully, cricket lovers will see some new greats from qualifying nations. Especially, I keep my finger crossed for upcoming legends from Pakistan...Aamir, Umar, Azhar, Junaid & Co.

  • fanofteamindia on November 14, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    Well I feel this Test championship is extremely flawed and am happy that it is not going to happen. you cannot decide the world champions by asking three teams to play knock out rounds in an alien country. It will favor the hosts tremendously than other forms as favorable conditions are vital for winning tests. Also winning one test cannot establish supremacy of one team over another, especially among the top four, let alone calling the winning team the world champions. Also, I feel the existing ranking system is very relevant since all the teams are striving to get to the top. Also, the teams play home and away, so the home advantage is somewhat neutralised. A 2 tier system of test playing nations with relegation and promotion will make more sense and increase the excitement than this proposed tournament.

  • wambling_future on November 14, 2011, 19:20 GMT

    Come on guys quickly start blaming BCCI for this.... !!!