ICC news January 25, 2014

Mani slams 'Big Three' proposal

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Ehsan Mani, the former ICC president, has delivered a stinging critique of the finance and governance draft proposal put forward by the boards of India, Australia and England, declaring the document should be subject to independent review. He charged the BCCI, CA and ECB with "completely undermining the integrity and standing of the ICC".

Describing the process by which the proposal was drawn up in secret and then presented to the other Full Member nations as an indicator of "serious weaknesses in ICC's governance", Mani raised numerous concerns about the proposal itself, particularly its financial modelling for the next eight years and assumptions about how much money an individual board or country is worth to the game as a revenue-raiser.

He also implored the ICC's executive board to look again towards the Woolf Report, the 2012 independent review of ICC governance that was largely ignored after the BCCI rejected its recommendations, many of which have been contradicted by the new proposal. "The Paper raises serious governance issues including lack of transparency and conflict of interest," Mani wrote in a 13-page statement about the proposal. "The authors of the Paper (BCCI, ECB and CA) benefit significantly in financial terms from their proposals and promote their own self-interests.

"BCCI, ECB and CA say in the Paper that they will provide greater leadership and stability to the ICC and its Members. In return they ask the Members to hand over powers of the ICC Board to them. They do not demonstrate how they will do this in any meaningful way. They do, however, plan to make significant financial gains for themselves and completely control the workings of the ICC to the exclusion of the other members.

"The Position Paper of the Working Group should be withdrawn and referred to an external independent panel to review and comment on. BCCI, CA and ECB should have no part in this process or subsequent discussion on this matter as they are clearly conflicted."

Mani, who served as ICC president from 2003 to 2006 after beginning his involvement with cricket's governing body in 1989, was aggrieved by the manner in which the proposal was drawn up by the BCCI, CA and ECB, and then sprung on the rest of the Full Members with the demand that it be voted on almost immediately.

"The Directors, President, Chief Executive and management of the ICC have had no role and input in, or knowledge of the preparation of the Paper even though it comes from a working group of the ICC Finance & Commercial Affairs Committee," Mani wrote. "It also appears that some members of the F&CA Committee were not invited to join in the discussions leading to the Paper and were not even aware of the discussions taking place.

"Full Members were summoned to a meeting in Dubai on 9 January 2014 and presented with this Paper. From all accounts it appears that the President and the Full Member directors of the ICC had no prior knowledge of the contents of the Paper and the President had no role in convening the meeting; he was 'invited' to the meeting by the BCCI, ECB and CA although it was a meeting of the F&CA working party of his Board. No Associate or Affiliate member director was invited to the meeting.

"The Three Boards have completely undermined the integrity and standing of the ICC, its President and the Board of Directors in promoting their own agenda without due and proper discussion by the Board. Clearly, the right standard of Boardroom behaviour is not seen to be in place."

Looking closely at the new financial order suggested by the proposal, Mani took serious issue with the premise on which it has been based. "The [revenue distribution] proposal put forward in the Paper is fundamentally flawed," he wrote. "It assumes that the members have proprietary interest in the money their countries' economies generate for ICC events. The fact is that broadcasters buy cricket rights because it appeals to their customers, drives subscriptions and advertising revenues.

"Similarly, sponsors use cricket to promote their goods and services. While the values are generally greater when the broadcaster's country is playing, not all of this can be attributed to the individual country's Board. The quality of the opposition has a great bearing on the value Boards receive for their media rights. A strong case could be made that the broadcast revenues for bilateral home and away series between two members should be pooled and shared equally.

"While there would be a significant reduction in the value of the ICC Commercial Rights if India did not participate in an event; it would not be a reduction of 80% of ICC revenues. The Indian broadcasters would still wish to broadcast ICC Events. There would be a relatively greater impact, than the values attributed to Pakistan, South Africa and West Indies in the Paper if these three countries did not participate in an ICC event. From discussions with broadcasters, if a World Cup was held without Pakistan, South Africa and West Indies ICC revenues for the event could be reduced by 30%-40%."

Mani's background in chartered accounting and corporate governance, via numerous board directorships, served him well at the ICC, when he took a major role in growing television revenue through his post as the head of the ICC's Finance and Marketing Committee from 1996 to 2002. He is a known advocate for growing the game into new markets such as the United States and China.

The proposal, which is believed to have undergone some minor adjustments since its draft version was reported on, has been lodged with ICC executive board members and will be debated and voted upon at their next meeting on January 28-29.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • themaster668 on January 27, 2014, 13:56 GMT

    A man with a big heart, who dares to speak truth atleast and also with some logic. If one thinks mani has summed up all what they have planned, if they ( the big three) dont even care to inform other boards about the agenda of the meeting, proposal and get suggestions, what would they do when they'll have all the power. rightly said its not only about financial control its about integrity, honor and power sharing about the ICC future also.

  • Udendra on January 27, 2014, 10:34 GMT

    Of course, any sane person would disagree to such a monopolistic paper!

  • on January 27, 2014, 9:25 GMT

    No doubt India has the richest cricket board and yet more than 200 Million people in India live on less than dollar a day. BCCI has started making lot of money through Bolywood as some Actors/Actresses now own IPL Franchise. Why Bolywood wants return on their investment from Cricket fraternity.

    Bolywood should rather invest in Holywood , England or Chinese movies which are watched all over. I am myself a lover of Indian movies but other than Sub continent and Hindi/Urdu/Punjabi/Bengalis speaking living abroad hardly any one else watches them. Tell me of one IPL cricketer even from Franchise of Actors ever paid a cent to watch an Indian Movie. Bolywood stop blackmailing cricket. Once respected ECB and CA have become a joke now as they will do any thing for money.

  • StevieS on January 27, 2014, 7:00 GMT

    "New Zealand Cricket will lose $50.9 million over the next eight years if a proposed change to international cricket administration goes ahead"

  • on January 27, 2014, 6:50 GMT

    BCCI, ECB and CA trying to wake up old ICC i.e. Imperial Cricket Council.

  • on January 27, 2014, 5:56 GMT

    Its just like veto power to few countries in united nations .. and if we can see observe the usage of that veto power in last fee years ... we can very well understand the outcome of this move if approved. But on the face of it to me this bill is an indian brainchild, and the strong divide we see in indian society in term of cast system very well sugest the mind set behind such idea. Cricket will last and will be loved... no matter how ugly these money matters turn out to be.

  • CurrentPresident on January 26, 2014, 20:08 GMT

    It's all about money, everyone wants more money without bothering to create it.

    Has anyone looked at how the Olympic association distributes is money? or FIFA? Those who bring in more money get more opportunity to get it and re-invest it for maximum returns. There is nothing wrong with it.

    For those crying out that it will kill the sport, nothing can be farther from truth. Before the monetary bonanza happened, cricket thrived just fine in all the countries it is being played today. In fact, more new countries established themselves. After the money started pouring in, I haven't seen much progress in the fringe cricket playing countries. The game hasn't become more popular by leaps and bounds.

    So the game will do just fine as long as it is entertaining enough for people to watch it. Nothing to do with millions of dollars being poured into it.

    All it boils down to is the distribution of the riches that cricket has managed to generate lately. Plain and simple.

  • Ubaidaleem on January 26, 2014, 16:18 GMT

    The new draft is been criticized by majority. However, the harsh reality is that it will be approved and that too by a popular vote in the upcoming meeting and cricket probably will die a dismal death. The cricket is dead long live T20

  • on January 26, 2014, 14:06 GMT

    is there any one with 3 page dissection of the proposal ? .Mani has thrown the first stone,come on some more from other corners of the world....

  • on January 26, 2014, 14:02 GMT

    great from brave Pakistani Well Said Mr. Mani. if you were still the president of ICC world cricket would be in a much better position than it currently is.

  • themaster668 on January 27, 2014, 13:56 GMT

    A man with a big heart, who dares to speak truth atleast and also with some logic. If one thinks mani has summed up all what they have planned, if they ( the big three) dont even care to inform other boards about the agenda of the meeting, proposal and get suggestions, what would they do when they'll have all the power. rightly said its not only about financial control its about integrity, honor and power sharing about the ICC future also.

  • Udendra on January 27, 2014, 10:34 GMT

    Of course, any sane person would disagree to such a monopolistic paper!

  • on January 27, 2014, 9:25 GMT

    No doubt India has the richest cricket board and yet more than 200 Million people in India live on less than dollar a day. BCCI has started making lot of money through Bolywood as some Actors/Actresses now own IPL Franchise. Why Bolywood wants return on their investment from Cricket fraternity.

    Bolywood should rather invest in Holywood , England or Chinese movies which are watched all over. I am myself a lover of Indian movies but other than Sub continent and Hindi/Urdu/Punjabi/Bengalis speaking living abroad hardly any one else watches them. Tell me of one IPL cricketer even from Franchise of Actors ever paid a cent to watch an Indian Movie. Bolywood stop blackmailing cricket. Once respected ECB and CA have become a joke now as they will do any thing for money.

  • StevieS on January 27, 2014, 7:00 GMT

    "New Zealand Cricket will lose $50.9 million over the next eight years if a proposed change to international cricket administration goes ahead"

  • on January 27, 2014, 6:50 GMT

    BCCI, ECB and CA trying to wake up old ICC i.e. Imperial Cricket Council.

  • on January 27, 2014, 5:56 GMT

    Its just like veto power to few countries in united nations .. and if we can see observe the usage of that veto power in last fee years ... we can very well understand the outcome of this move if approved. But on the face of it to me this bill is an indian brainchild, and the strong divide we see in indian society in term of cast system very well sugest the mind set behind such idea. Cricket will last and will be loved... no matter how ugly these money matters turn out to be.

  • CurrentPresident on January 26, 2014, 20:08 GMT

    It's all about money, everyone wants more money without bothering to create it.

    Has anyone looked at how the Olympic association distributes is money? or FIFA? Those who bring in more money get more opportunity to get it and re-invest it for maximum returns. There is nothing wrong with it.

    For those crying out that it will kill the sport, nothing can be farther from truth. Before the monetary bonanza happened, cricket thrived just fine in all the countries it is being played today. In fact, more new countries established themselves. After the money started pouring in, I haven't seen much progress in the fringe cricket playing countries. The game hasn't become more popular by leaps and bounds.

    So the game will do just fine as long as it is entertaining enough for people to watch it. Nothing to do with millions of dollars being poured into it.

    All it boils down to is the distribution of the riches that cricket has managed to generate lately. Plain and simple.

  • Ubaidaleem on January 26, 2014, 16:18 GMT

    The new draft is been criticized by majority. However, the harsh reality is that it will be approved and that too by a popular vote in the upcoming meeting and cricket probably will die a dismal death. The cricket is dead long live T20

  • on January 26, 2014, 14:06 GMT

    is there any one with 3 page dissection of the proposal ? .Mani has thrown the first stone,come on some more from other corners of the world....

  • on January 26, 2014, 14:02 GMT

    great from brave Pakistani Well Said Mr. Mani. if you were still the president of ICC world cricket would be in a much better position than it currently is.

  • Thathal on January 26, 2014, 13:04 GMT

    Well Said Mr. Mani. Iy you were still the president of ICC worl cricket would be in a much better position than it currently is.

  • on January 26, 2014, 11:47 GMT

    Not entirely sure about the logic of all this, so the so called big three find it to easy going against the rest aye? someone tell me which one of those three are the number one test side?

  • on January 26, 2014, 9:55 GMT

    Even senior and highy respected players like Sachin, Dravid Kumble and Ganguly should raise their voice against this move by BCCI which could not only harm world cricket but Indian Cricket. This beautiful sport will be reduced to a three country affair. A true cricket fan and a true Indian Fan does not and cannot support this move. A typical Indian fab wants to see BCCI make sporting and seaming tracks in Ranji trophy so that the Indian team doesnt struggle abroad. There is a lot of good that BCCI with its power can do to help world cricket provided "absolute power doesnt corrupt absolutely".

  • rohan024 on January 26, 2014, 7:45 GMT

    Its a shame, real shame. Till 1991, cricket was totally controlled by ECB and CA, the other boards had absolutely no say in the ICC. So much so that the ICC president post was reserved for either ECB or CA rep till 1991. With BCCI, everything changed, and they indeed did a lot of good work. Unfortunately, now it seems all the good work will go down the drain, as after 20 years BCCI seems to be recreating the system, which they had opposed then. Only difference being, the elitist club will be of 3 now and not 2, with BCCI the new powerful entrant.

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 26, 2014, 6:57 GMT

    @Michael Cosgrove: I hope not Michael. I have a deep respect for New Zealand sport. I admire the All Blacks as a fine sporting outfit in rugby, the Black Caps as capable cricketers and several wonderful athletes who have represented NZ in the Olympics. As a fine sporting nation, NZ should not be sidelined by the greedier few in cricket. I hope India continues to visit NZ for cricket tours in the near future, preferably every couple of years. Cricket is an already shrunken sport with only 10 nations actively playing. If we agree to the Big 3's proposal, cricket will be only be played between 3 nations. Thank you for being such wonderful hosts to the Indian cricket. May God bless New Zealand cricket !!

  • on January 26, 2014, 6:37 GMT

    Don't kill the game for forever just to make more money. Please don't make it s a game of shame, don't let it be biased and unjust! I am a cricket fan, I enjoy each and every teams cricket and I want it to be this way. It is going through a perfect system now. If Big 3 has issues playing the weaker teams, maybe they can discuss with ICC and make some correction in FTP. BCCI, NC, CA, ECB Please don't do this, it will make cricket a less interesting game.

    Even overplaying with each other gonna make the spectators of these nations bored of cricket.

  • Desihungama on January 26, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    We are missing a bigger picture here. The three boards are trying to change the dynamics of how the sport is being played today. Keeping financial interest in mind first, they are looking to resort to create NBA, NFL type Cricket Leagues, of course IPL, Big Bash being the first step toward it. Problem with that is all of then international players financial securities outside of these three boards will then be tied directly to these franchises rather then their respective boards as such the case is right now, albeit some no so rich. Now, the issue here is we all know political likings or dis likings will come into play as to who can and cannot play in their fancy leagues. Imagine Pakistan and S. African being relegated to second tier with no international matches in hindsight and to top that their players won't be welcome. If india pulls out, Yeah it won't be too profitable but sponsors from India will still invest. After all you still have to sell products at the end of day?

  • Rahul_78 on January 26, 2014, 4:56 GMT

    Mr.Mani makes a lot of sense here. SAF,Pak, WI, Lanka and NZ boards should take notice and call the bluff of the 3 bullies. Let the top 3 play each other in their private T20 bashes and International cricket year long. The rest should stay away from anything that have to do with these 3 teams and boycott all the events including them. They should stay away from ICC events also as the undisputed governing body of the cricket has failed miserably to show any resistance to the 3 powerful of its members and fight for the dignity and respect of the reaming.The main focus of the power game is the money and it will be very interesting to see if others stay away from all the events involving these top 3 then how much dent it makes in their revenues in the long terms.Players from remaining countries need to stand up too for their respective countries and stay away from cash rich T20s just for the pride and dignity. It is better to perish with respect then to live with humiliation.

  • Arshad_786 on January 26, 2014, 4:19 GMT

    Tendulkar, Dravid, Kumble - Please say something. Knock some sense in the greedy BCCI. They will kill the goose that lays the golden egg. South Africa is against it. Bangladesh most likely will go against it. If Pakistanis can stop fighting for a few days, they will be going against it as well. All we need then is West Indies and or Sri Lanka to kill this hideous nonsense. Greed Kills.

  • on January 26, 2014, 4:03 GMT

    ICC allow India, England & Australia to establish East India Company in cricket. Use CRICKET for trade and make these countries richer & ruined the gentleman game.

  • lovecricket.com on January 26, 2014, 2:11 GMT

    I cant believe I feel this, but I think I want south Africa to win on our next tour there. then who ever plays against the poms, india, I will barrack for them also. Pakistan, srilanka, kiwis, banglahesh, saffirs, Zimbabwe, Ireland, and all of the associates. sobers ,miandad, mutthai, Entire wi team from my childhood, Imran, wasim, srilankan cricketers in general, plus so many more! do not deprive my children, my mother, my grandmother, of seeing the best my country has , playing against the best another country has, just because they don't make you as much money. Ind vs Aust. aust vs eng, eng vs ind. Hey lets change it up, how about aust vs ind!

  • Crik_Fan on January 26, 2014, 1:26 GMT

    I fully support BCCI given the irrationality of thoughts of those who are opposing it. What is wrong in BCCI seeking a return proportionate to its contribution as far as revenue is concerned ? Why is there a sense of entitlement on part of some ? Coming to administration of game, why such countries who have destroyed their own infrastructures of cricket because of personality clashes and mismanagement be allowed to bring same kind of negativity and culture to the governing body for the world cricket ? Didn't many countries jealous of success of IPL after issuing prophecies of doom for it, tried to start their own versions ? Where are the results ? What good Mr Mani has done to management of cricket in his home country after his stint with ICC ? What is meaning of equality here ? Should all member be allowed to be champions by turns ? There is no socialism in cricket. This move is good for cricket and if not now, than later, it is the way to go.

  • lovecricket.com on January 26, 2014, 1:16 GMT

    Thank you Ehsan Mani, to be honest, I did not know your name before I read this article, I was on cricinfo checking the start time for nz vs ind and saw the twitter thing [that is alien to me] on the home page & read a comment about the take over/coup of cricket. I am a cricket tragic, live overseas and try and spread the word about the game. if Australia, England, India, get special anything! I will be sad. I cant do much about it, but what I can do is, not go to anymore big three games. birthdays, Christmas, instead of my boys getting cricket, bats, balls, pads, gloves, tennis balls for beach cricket, it WILL be full of rugby, aussie rules, soccer, golf clubs, tennis racket[to use the tennis balls as no more beach cricket] ping pong, baseball, softball, netball, basketball, hockey, and just for good measure an American football. btw if this does happen, I will only support the not top three teams. i am a fan of cricket born in australia

  • dulabari on January 26, 2014, 0:02 GMT

    Test culture is a little different than other formats. It grows with time. Bangladesh had a Test culture because it was a part of a Test side from 1947-1971. After she got the Test status it has matured and growing further. Why in the world ICC wants to destroy that. Think about another situation: after 4 years BD gets the promotion and WI is demoted to 2nd tier. Can you think about a Test cricket world without WI. That will destroy cricket there.

  • on January 25, 2014, 23:35 GMT

    I'm a Kiwi. Yesterday we has a marvellous game of cricket in Auckland before a big crowd of local Indians, South Pacific people and pakeha.

    Is this the last time we will see a team from India visit New Zealand?

  • on January 25, 2014, 21:02 GMT

    There are disturbing aspects to the Big Three proposal. One is the symbol of domination of India, Australia and England and subjugation of the rest. Two is that the main problem identified by most scribes, India's financial power (and now Cricket Australia's financial obsession), has not been addressed. Three is that it threatens to split the cricket world.

  • Pu-ja-ra on January 25, 2014, 19:40 GMT

    I am an Indian fan. I was hoping Jadeja could've hit that last ball for 4 today to beat NZ.

    This proposal feels wrong if we want to try to keep the identity of cricket. The BBCI may have assessed that in a worst case scenario the proposal is rejected, they go it alone (along with the odd series against CA, ECB for entertainment) and the game evolves/degrades in India into something like baseball in the US, i.e. a sport played properly only by one country having a big population. There would be enough money in it to grow large club teams - the national team would become less important over time, as clubs would pay wages. The bookies would also be happy with more matches. During the lifetime of the current BCCI people, the money would still roll in - happy days.

    I wonder what Dravid, Kumble, Tendulkar and co. think of the proposal - they are probably against This is getting embarrassing - hopefully those highly regarded recent players will say something to start the fightback soon.

  • on January 25, 2014, 19:11 GMT

    This proposal is utter nonsense and the cricketing world should protest and should not make this happen . It's us the fans who make this game continue to be what it is and it's our money that will keep Australia , India and England and the rest of the cricketing world going , so no us or functioning ICC and no cricket . Simple as that and greats like Clive Lloyd , imran khan , wasim Akram , Viv, Ambrose , Walsh , pollock , Donald , Kallis , ranatunga , da silva , rameez raja , sobers , Haynes , Greenidge come on guys this list can go speak up and let your voice and ours be heard this nonsense must not happen or should never again pop up it's ugly head again ! PERIOD !!!!

  • EashwarSai on January 25, 2014, 19:04 GMT

    @Mohamed Jesus. International players are popular in the IPL yes, but it's the Indian players who are the heart and soul of the IPL. They are the main draw. Every IPL team has atleast one marquee Indian player who is the face of the franchise. We can do absolutely fine without foreign players, even better actually because this means more jobs for Indians. I for one will happily pay to watch an all-Indian IPL match. Atleast I won't have to worry about who wins or loses.

  • CricIndia208 on January 25, 2014, 17:51 GMT

    Lots on anti-India nonsense in here. BCCI is not India, it is just a small organization.

  • Rajesh.Kumar on January 25, 2014, 17:18 GMT

    Mr. Muhammad Jesus, I have nothing against international players, they bring a lot of quality to the IPL. It is international matches for which the interest in India is dwindling rapidly. Recent India-Aus series was virtually played in empty stadia in India. It must be depressing for players as well. On the other hand, in a city like Mumbai, all IPL matches are houseful. IPL, with its international players is rapidly reducing interest in international cricket in India.

  • on January 25, 2014, 16:32 GMT

    Mr Rajesh IPL is attractive b/c of the international players. if there is no international player then IPL would be just a street level game

  • Mr.bhatti on January 25, 2014, 16:12 GMT

    I agree with mani and especialy with brother fraz.how nice. Its saying .now they eant to make super power of cricket.they want k they would allow any team for tour to any country.and what should they got from any other two team belitreal series .which can we say .sales tex.any how its the time for Pakistan .lanka and south Africa they join as 1 unit and stand for Cricket.we love cricket and we hope that cricket would not die.we should not like cricket play as play WWe

  • Rajesh.Kumar on January 25, 2014, 15:45 GMT

    In India right now people only care about IPL. International cricket's popularity is at an all time low. I strongly feel that India should just walk out of ICC, and focus only on IPL which will take care of the summer. For winter we should organize a similar ODI league. With all seasons taken care of, who in India needs international cricket? International cricket used to be popular in India during the pre-IPL days. But nowadays common people only care about IPL, as is also obvious from the full stadia during IPL and 20% filled stadia during international events. While international cricket can provide jobs to only 11 players, but IPL genarates a lot more jobs than that for the cricketers. It is the best thing which happened to Indian cricket, and it will be further strengthened if India simply walks out of ICC. Then we can keep 100% of the revenue.

  • Blade-Runner on January 25, 2014, 15:32 GMT

    @Posted by on (January 25, 2014, 15:21 GMT) ; You missed one. 8) India should be allowed to pick venues when they tour. Even though they practice this rule at the moment, we need it on a piece of paper to make it official.

  • Bangla.tiger on January 25, 2014, 15:32 GMT

    lalest news is Bangladesh against this new rule. we play for glory not for business and money.

  • on January 25, 2014, 15:21 GMT

    I would like to add a couple of salient points that India missed out, that would help them immensely (can you believe they left these points out?)

    1. Indian Batsman cannot be given out LBW 2. Indian will pick not only their playing 11 but also the opposition's playing 11 3. No one will be allowed to bowl over 60 mph to Indian batsmen 4. Indian bowlers will be feared 5. Indian batsman can only be caught out if the catch is taken one-handed 6. In ICC Test and ODI Rankings, the top slot is reserved for India 7. Match winnings players will only be allowed to play for India never against India

    These seven points will ensure that India win's at least 80% of it's games which will make cricket even more financially lucrative.

    No Charge!!

  • on January 25, 2014, 14:58 GMT

    well said sir .. cricket fans all over the world should not let this happened as it will be the biggest loss of the game itself. they are trying a make a mafia to rule cricket. ICC should not fall for it. A strong ICC is for the good of all playing nations. i am happy that u came out strongly.

    #Respect #EhsanManiSlams #CricketWeLove

  • on January 25, 2014, 14:41 GMT

    If any board members from these three countries see all comments, without any doubt they should feel shame and pardon to the whole cricket fans for their such a narrow minded proposal. They actually wants to play with cricket fans emotions claiming themselves most powerful. From now, the cricket fans around the world should avoid any match of these three countries.

    Shame India!!!! Shame England!!! Shame Australia!!!

  • Bang_La on January 25, 2014, 14:36 GMT

    @Trevor Sichel, you got it right at the end. Its money, masked as cricket. BCCI has the hugest money in bank and hands but the greed never dies. The money-push made India a great team. Look at their records since 1932 and see how it looks like. Overall figures: Team Span Mat Won Lost Tied Draw W/L TEST India 1932-1980 183 33 69 0 81 0.47 India 1981-2013 293 88 81 1 123 1.08 ODI India 1971-1980 67 18 20 0 29 0.9 India 1981-2014 827 418 366 6 37 1.14 T20 India 2006-2013 46 25 19 1 1 1.31 (Source: CricInfo statistics)

  • Blade-Runner on January 25, 2014, 14:24 GMT

    This is exactly what I said earlier. Bring back "Woolf report" 'n place the ICC in the hands of an independent directors. No board should be allowed to dictate terms when it comes to the ICC matters.

  • on January 25, 2014, 14:22 GMT

    As a West Indian fan, I blame our board for having not maximize the opportunity when we dominated cricket for 15 years. Now today you have the ECB, CA and BCCI calling themselves "BIG THREE". Where is their respect for the contribution of West Indies and South Africa to world cricket? If they want to be BIG THREE, let the do it by themselves.

  • on January 25, 2014, 14:09 GMT

    oh please! No Indian broadcaster is going to pay any money if India is not playing a world cup. Because Indian players would be playing somewhere else at the same time. 90% of Indian cricket fans watch cricket for seeing Indian players, If the fans have only Ranji Trophy to watch, they will do so and sponsors will flock to that.

  • on January 25, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    Completely agree with @Trevor Sichel!!

  • on January 25, 2014, 13:55 GMT

    i myself an indian but this draft system is not fair for others . we need more full member like ireland , afganistan .

  • on January 25, 2014, 13:55 GMT

    hah governance if ECB had such a brilliant governance they would have won more tournaments than just a single T20 World Cup......... although i am not supportive of this idea of big 3......... but if top 3 were ever to be selected on the basis of governance..... then at this time India, Australia and South Africa should have been selected, not England............ but as BCCI, CA and ECB are rich among the boards so they are doing it all on the basis of money........ and when money is the aim the idea is always going to be a flop FOR CRICKET.............

  • on January 25, 2014, 13:51 GMT

    I find it soo funny that so many people are commenting...Let the draft be read or heard...If the 3 nations have made the game popular and profitable in their respective countries..They can do it for others as well...All are hatching eggs before they are laid....

  • on January 25, 2014, 13:39 GMT

    What a rubbish thing proposed by these three boards

  • on January 25, 2014, 13:25 GMT

    I have no idea why India are termed as one of the big 3. After all they have never had a great team that dominates world wide like the West Indies or RSA. Oh! It's about money not cricket!!!!!

  • on January 25, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    This propasal needs to cancelled immediately. Its totally wrong.Every member country of the ICC needs to have equal say & rights, and should not be subject to being dictated too by 3 member countries.

  • yorkslanka on January 25, 2014, 13:17 GMT

    well said Mr Mani, fully agree with you..this is a mutiny based on greed-simple as that...As was mentioned and also agreed by Lorgat, the Woolf report should come into play..

  • on January 25, 2014, 13:11 GMT

    It is reassuring to see that whatever country you support the majority of fans are against this disgraceful proposal . Cricket is a sport for everyone and not the greedy money grabbers .

  • on January 25, 2014, 13:10 GMT

    If India doesn't want to stay with ICC then they could just leave ICC & play with countries like Bermuda, Congo, Nepal etc. trying to be leader of world cricket by force wont work. we cricket lovers wont let that happen, never ever. there will huge demonstration in lots of cricket loving nations against BCCI, ACB & ECB. People will throw shoes wherever they see any member or cricketers from these three board.

  • on January 25, 2014, 12:54 GMT

    Still a gentleman's game... anybody ? India has the largest population amongst the cricket playing nations and a large number of people follow cricket in the India. With so big a market, they attract more sponsors... Understood. What is the fault of a smaller country with very good cricketers who have huge fan base across the globe? Such countries doesn't bring in very lucrative broadcast deals but surely they have huge impact of the overall revenues collected from a series. for instance, if India plays BD or PAK is a home series, the broadcast deals and revenues of series in the PAK's case would be much higher. So its not India alone who is generating all the money BUT yes they do have a very big market. Fair enough, give India more share... but why the powers? Powers should remain in the hands os a neutral governing body which is supposed to look after the game all over the world and not only in a couple of countries.

  • Testcricketistop on January 25, 2014, 12:29 GMT

    @ Zain, that is not how it was explained to me. Bilateral series revenue goes to the ICC.

    The histing nation gets paid for the expenses incurred by them to host a series and each country earns a grant which is currently roughyl 7,5% of ICC revenue.

  • shaannnnnn on January 25, 2014, 12:20 GMT

    if this proposal approves i will be shifting from cricket to more fair game like tennis. the moment india got control of cricket it was bound to happen even australia in their dominance didnt do silly thing like this. this must be bcci proposal

  • on January 25, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    No need this draft

  • on January 25, 2014, 12:05 GMT

    the reason why this proposal is fundamentally flawed is because if a country in so interested in keeping its money from leaking abroad, it can easily impose taxes on areas where the biggest leaks are happening. this way the money saved can be distributed for the benefit of the citizens of the country at large. buy this proposal aims to benefit the few people in charge of cricket in the largest revenue generating countries who will most likely not share their fortune with the people of their country. the amount of money one gets from sport should be tied to the performance and quality of sportsmen being produced by that country. financial matters such as these are best decided by governments that ensure equitable distribution of resources amongst all people. what's happening here is that these boards are abusing their financial power to black mail others into giving them something that should not be theirs in the first place, using a platform that is not meant for all this.

  • ZainE111 on January 25, 2014, 11:57 GMT

    @Testcricketistop - money from bilateral series involving India goes to the BCCI. Not to the ICC. The ICC makes money from ICC events such as the World Cup.

  • keptalittlelow on January 25, 2014, 11:56 GMT

    Its now well and truly established by all the right minded and sincere people that these proposals are not drafted for the good of the game in mind, lets vote them out and move on.

  • on January 25, 2014, 11:56 GMT

    I think every sport lover's concern is valid & understandable. but to be rational, lets not paint everything in black & white. stating ECB, BCCI, CA have ganged up for their own benefit would b very naïve on everybody's part. the draft proposal has been put before all the members and they all can express their reservations. so lets not be judgmental even before the draft is put before all the stake holders. Because no board irrespective of how powerful, would never undermine the interests of the game. because that would tantamount to axing their own leg.

  • on January 25, 2014, 11:50 GMT

    I can proudly say the guys a PAKISTANI

  • getsetgopk on January 25, 2014, 11:38 GMT

    Exactly! Cricket revenues are generated because TWO TEAMS decide to play cricket in the first place. NOT PLAYING cricket means there will be no money, not even from India. Like Mani said, if 80% of revenues come from India in an ICC event, its ONLY when all the full memebers play in it. Its all a bluff from India since they know it full well but whats sadening is that curious case of ECB and CA. BCCI's ill intentions are a well know secret but damn you ECB and CA. But on second though, I wont blame ECB, they introduced us to this game and are they themselves teamed up to destroy it.

  • Khans_word on January 25, 2014, 11:35 GMT

    No debate is necessary. It is wrong, totally wrong for the so-called big three to propose a take-over that would effectively destroy world cricket. Decision making should be from an independent body where an equal share of profits, nuturing cricket growth in members and expanded opportunities for associates. All test nation should abide by a fixed set in stone schedule to play members (subject to penalties) otherwise this pick and choose policy that BCCI adhere to will have negative long term impact. If the powers that be (the big three) win, which is likely with their monetary clout then we are will have further division and isolation for other members. A counter proposal should be to create a breakaway ICC to exclude the big three in all events and hold world tournaments without these selfish boards. Say No to ECB, ACB and BCCI !!!

  • on January 25, 2014, 11:25 GMT

    People. u r missing the bigger picture. the icc was ineffective. it was only a proxy for the big 3 and to a certain extent SA. the draft will lead to faster decision making. world cricket could stand to lose billions if india was out of the top tier this would affect countless other cricket boards. while I don't agree it maybe a necessary evil

  • on January 25, 2014, 11:18 GMT

    It's a pessimistic proposal from big three . I hope they would understand it and timely be withdrawn .

  • reality_check on January 25, 2014, 11:18 GMT

    BCCI has already threatened other boards "Pass the draft proposal or else ...". By latest reports, NZ and Bangladesh are already on board. ECB and BCCI have suddenly found new love for PCB. Let's see if CSA, PCB and WI can take a united stand against this madness or will they succumb under the weight of threats.

    Cricket has forever changed no matter if this draft proposal passes or not. BCCI wants complete control of cricket to make as much money as they can. This little road block won't hamper their nefarious ambitions. Next demand will be ... India must play in every world cup final and win or else ....

  • on January 25, 2014, 11:10 GMT

    there is no one big in game....

  • R3ZA on January 25, 2014, 11:04 GMT

    BIG3 is trying to black mail ICC.

    Mani must be listened to.

  • UndertheGrill on January 25, 2014, 11:02 GMT

    If only we had someone like Ehsan Mani at the ICC now! I really hope that the other member boards have got enough backbone (that the ECB and CA clearly didn't have) to vote this proposal down, but there's a very real danger that this will get through.

  • Beertjie on January 25, 2014, 11:01 GMT

    Fools rush in where wise men fear to tread. Finally a man both wise in the workings of the sport's governing body has given us his considered judgment. Come now, you recently retired cricketers who both contributed and benefiited so greatly in the exercise of your powers at the highest level. Speak up now! Very appropriate rebuke, @Amir Hanif on (January 25, 2014, 9:04 GMT) about their lamentable silence.

  • Testcricketistop on January 25, 2014, 10:58 GMT

    We have to face the reality. Firstly I never before understood how the finances of cricket worked. i wasn't aware of the fact that all revenue goes to the ICC who then provides grants to all nations.

    Having now seen how it works I fully understand why the BCCI wants more money. With that I have no issue.

    But I do hav e an issue with the whole financial model as it stands. Let each nation keep the revenue they earn to run and develop their own cricket.

    ICC event revenue must be equally shared with all participating nations.

    And the power can never land in the hands of the rich, that is simply signing your inevitable demise.

    The ICC need to control cricket in a way where it can be truly seen as a governing body, it must dictate to every nation including the BCCI who will play a series when and where. No exceptions.

  • VisBal on January 25, 2014, 10:57 GMT

    aks1987: He used to be. As the article says, his term was from 2003-2006. I remember how he steered the 2005 Champion's Trophy to success against the will of the Test boards. Clever man.

  • 1_234 on January 25, 2014, 10:42 GMT

    India, Australia and England should understand that their approach is wrong. You earn more so you should lead the world is a wrong motive. Motive should be to provide equal opportunities so that every one can share your burden of earning more. Bring a draft proposal forcing each member to make efforts to earn as much as you earn. This will enhance the quality of the cricket and will spread cricket to far corners of the world.

  • on January 25, 2014, 10:40 GMT

    'The Big Three" proposal is such as sad news for whole cricket nations. its time to expend the cricket to all over the world, not confined to BCCI, CA and ECB.

  • kentjones on January 25, 2014, 10:39 GMT

    Very well said Mani. Lets hope other prominent figures in the game will come forward and expose this attempt to sieize control of the game of cricket. This proposal must not be allowed to be passed.

  • Stark62 on January 25, 2014, 10:36 GMT

    Finally, someone that understands!!

    It's not just about financial control but rather, the whole icc and cricketing world.

    They want to decide, if they will tour this place or not, if a certain country is allowed to be a part of the "icc" or not but the worst suggestion of them all, is the fact that the "big 3" can never be relegated from the top tier.

  • Reaz_Khan on January 25, 2014, 10:28 GMT

    An ICC event (such as world cup t20) without PAK/WI/SA/Srilanka/Bangladesh -- will it give much revenue even if it is played in India. If it will then why Don't Ind/Eng/AUs and NZ play within them world cup each year in India, Nobody mind on that i think. To generate money from ICC events you need all these countries, otherwise no broadcaster will give you much money and it would not draw much attentions.

  • on January 25, 2014, 10:25 GMT

    Very well said by ehsan mani.icc must look into this. This proposal is totally unfair and unjust

  • on January 25, 2014, 10:24 GMT

    This will kill the game for sure ..and going away from FTP means pitches in bilateral series will be dictated by the powerful and cricket as a game will die.Even now we see countries rolling out friendlier surfaces to India as compared to before ..just to keep BCCI pleased and also for greater revenues ..all in all cricket as a game lost out once Dalmiya set his foot in in the 90s ..blind fans may not agree ..but that is the fact.

  • Pu-ja-ra on January 25, 2014, 10:24 GMT

    I am an Indian fan. I was hoping Jadeja could've hit that last ball for 4 today to beat NZ.

    This proposal feels wrong if we want to try to keep the identity of cricket. The BBCI may have assessed that in a worst case scenario the proposal is rejected, they go it alone (along with the odd series against CA, ECB for entertainment) and the game evolves/degrades in India into something like baseball in the US, i.e. a sport played properly only by one country having a big population. There would be enough money in it to grow large club teams - the national team would become less important over time, as clubs would pay wages. The bookies would also be happy with more matches. During the lifetime of the current BCCI people, the money would still roll in - happy days.

    I wonder what Dravid, Kumble, Tendulkar and co. think of the proposal - they are probably against This is getting embarrassing - hopefully those highly regarded recent players will say something to start the fightback soon.

  • on January 25, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    if it was just about finances then it was ok. who generate more should get more but why keep powers to yourself?

    Mani is saying good. but i think this draft will be going to approve.Reason is simply that all small boards have their own problems. and they will need at least 7 votes to get it pass. now if opposition is not sure that they will get votes to disapprove it, they will not go against it. simply because then they will be cornored if it gets approved after their opposition. CSA is a strong board plus SA is top ranked team. but others like pcb and WI are no way near that. PCB is not getting any matches and are in poor financial conditions. Same is the state of BD, SL, ZIMB, WI.

  • on January 25, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    Globalization should be widened rather be limited.

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 25, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    Well said Mr. Mani but too bad you are in no power to do anything. When you were there in power, you did NOTHING. So all this talk is of no use.

  • Bringbackbuck on January 25, 2014, 10:17 GMT

    Very few positive comments on this proposal from fans from any country, which is great to see - at least the fans can understand it would be bad for cricket, even if they money grubbing administrators from 'The Big 3' (who at various times haven't been so big) don't have a clue.

    cooljack - Black Caps have been in a slump for a while and the administrators have stuffed up immensely, losing a lot of supporters - remember John Wright who did such good things for Indian cricket? Yeah, they screwed the pooch and lost him...so kind of hard to get full stadiums, but with a number of players coming back into form and new players like Milne and Anderson coming into the picture expect things to get a lot better down here.

  • da_man_ on January 25, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    @cooljack143: Firstly, you're not sorry, you're rubbing your hands with glee. Secondly cricket will survive without India. Remember NO ONE is bigger than the game. Stop believing your own hype. Ehsan Mani, I wish you could talk sense into the other seven boards to stick it to the evil three!

  • kingcobra85 on January 25, 2014, 10:10 GMT

    Big words from Mani. Too bad he can't actually care to improve test cricket in his own country. Even during Kallis last game the grounds were empty. It is so easy to earn a quick brownie points just blame the BCCI

  • on January 25, 2014, 10:05 GMT

    My 50 year love affair with cricket is about to end thanks to money and greed. Mani is saying it politely, but what these greedy b......s don't understand that cricket as we know it is nothing without the fans.

  • faysal201 on January 25, 2014, 9:59 GMT

    I am very much pleased to see that all cricket fan from India, Australia, & England reject the proposal.

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:57 GMT

    i disagree with Mr Ehsan Mani on one thing that if Pak SAF and WI dont play an ICC event 30-40% cut will be made on ICC i mean from main 8 teams if 3 are not playing dan dat w`nt b an ICC event... Teams like Bangladesh Afghanistan Ireland Zimbawe would be there to fill it up and matches against such team w`nt b even watched by Indians Australians and English people...who will watch such a boring event!!!! if these three countries (Aus, Eng & Ind) wants to have a tri series dan dey r most welcome and can keep dere generated money from dat and do dat every year and i assure you all these ppl will stop watching cricket... its time to expand cricket not confined cricket to only 3 countries!!!

  • PrasPunter on January 25, 2014, 9:56 GMT

    CA, for God's sake, please pull out of this sham and let millions of Aussie fans hold their heads high.

  • sarashan on January 25, 2014, 9:51 GMT

    If this proposal is voted into agreement, it will be a very sad day for World cricket. I hope the other board members are not falling into false promises by the BCCI for their short term gains. This will eventually kill cricket in other nations. I see ECB and ACB has already fallen to BCCI's greedy promises Indian's are already tired of too much commercialization of Cricket and eventually will throng to other sports.

  • haq33 on January 25, 2014, 9:50 GMT

    I cannot comprehend WHY the Indian board needs to govern global cricket in order to maximise revenues! They could still (and do) enjoy healthy revenues even without holding such ridiculous power. @milepost.....u R spot on about John Howard. We need the traditionalists to speak up and now. It will take an unholy alliance of unlikely bedfellows to join forces for a greater good.

  • MAN_AT_WORK on January 25, 2014, 9:47 GMT

    Just realized BCCI is the most hatred cricketing body in the cricket playing nation .

  • cooljack_143 on January 25, 2014, 9:42 GMT

    Sorry but without Ind, today as commentators say the stadiums are not full when any other country tours NZ. So accept it and go ahead else you will be the losers NOT cricket.Same goes with any country Even SA,,,They were just riding on the luck of kallis lets see what they are gonna achieve from now on in test cricket.

  • wahla101 on January 25, 2014, 9:39 GMT

    BCCI always want to win thats y they want to take control of icc so that they can arrange their matches only in india and alongwith 1st position in the icc ranking they can earn lots of money. who care,s about world cricket.......?

  • Cricket_Man on January 25, 2014, 9:39 GMT

    Say no to cricket if the changes actually take place.

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:37 GMT

    I hope the true sons of cricket, the living giants that have played the game in the right spirit come out to defend the game in its hour of need against this opportunistic pack of wolves who without hesitation want to consume the game for whatever evil purpose that's in their evil hearts. Long live the spirit of cricket. I fully agree with the points raised by mani

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:36 GMT

    Great words by Mani. Hope the cricket world is listening. Otherwise cricket is doomed.

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:35 GMT

    This should be eye opener for people support the big 3. Its all abut the power and money for these 3 broads and you will cricket will the decline and it will be more a business more then a sports. I am sure BCCI is the main culprit drafting this proposal and then they involve the ECB and CA but remember this CA and ECB will regret one day because BCCI will blackmail them soon.

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:34 GMT

    Finally someone with the Proper Sense of Cricket and Intellect :)

  • buddhikapm on January 25, 2014, 9:34 GMT

    At least one gentleman among those who forgotten gentlemen's game

  • Jonocricketnz on January 25, 2014, 9:34 GMT

    Mani couldn't be more spot on. I really am pleased that there are people standing up for this. The game's integrity is at stake - and the integrity of the Australian, English and Indian Cricket Boards are at an all time low!

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:32 GMT

    Well said Ehsan Mani, now can someone get this chap back into a position of power at the ICC?

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:25 GMT

    What the trio are doing is totally unacceptable, they are supposed to look at the interests of the game, but their own interests. What happened to keeping foetus chem of politics. This is simply not cricket!

  • swat1999 on January 25, 2014, 9:23 GMT

    Big 3 proposal is like a business rathar than cricket. Cricket body should cntrol by mutually rathar than 3 rich nation

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:22 GMT

    He has my vote. That is all perfect good sense.

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:13 GMT

    Great review mr. Mani!

  • milepost on January 25, 2014, 9:10 GMT

    As an Australian I have to say I agree with comments about excluding us. The proposal would only harm cricket and I am a cricket fan before I am an Aussie fan. Mani is spot on. Write to your board if you are English, Indian or Australian and tell them this stinks. If John Howard had become involved with the ICC this would never have happened.

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:04 GMT

    Very true...... time to define the governing indicators.... future directions..... whether cricket's future is bigger or the revenue is the only driving force. Today it is India and one day it can be another Kerry Packer. Cricket for SALE. the leagues are only a new form of packer series

    This is the time for application of every board's wisdom.

    Introducing back the VETO means travelling back to the dark ages and defying all the sensable progress made over number of years.

    Why there was avoidence from the Woolf report which was very rational. Even in this article, the proposal is very rational that the remaining seven should evaluate it without coersion from these proposing three or to get it review by independent consultant, etc. There are many way if there is will.

    The power comes with responsibility but in this draft only power.

    It is really astonishing the the greats, who spent their lives in loving cricket, are silent. Rather disgusting

    So please come together. Love CRICKET

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:00 GMT

    Amazing review by an intelligent man who respects integrity! If this proposal goes through then that will become the next global case for corporate governance and the official recession in cricket!

  • aks1987 on January 25, 2014, 8:58 GMT

    Listen to this guy people. He should be the chairman of ICC.

  • on January 25, 2014, 8:50 GMT

    Mani the man who should be tasked to deal with these bullies. World Cricket should join hands to seclude these countries.

  • MaxG9 on January 25, 2014, 8:50 GMT

    Great stance by Mani. The proposal should be rejected outright by all other Boards. If India wants to go it alone let it do so. There should be no place for blackmail & personal agenda's in World cricket.

    Nothing more needs to be said.

  • on January 25, 2014, 8:44 GMT

    Finally a suitable rebuke from someone who obviously knows what he's talking about. Well said, Mr. Mani.

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  • on January 25, 2014, 8:44 GMT

    Finally a suitable rebuke from someone who obviously knows what he's talking about. Well said, Mr. Mani.

  • MaxG9 on January 25, 2014, 8:50 GMT

    Great stance by Mani. The proposal should be rejected outright by all other Boards. If India wants to go it alone let it do so. There should be no place for blackmail & personal agenda's in World cricket.

    Nothing more needs to be said.

  • on January 25, 2014, 8:50 GMT

    Mani the man who should be tasked to deal with these bullies. World Cricket should join hands to seclude these countries.

  • aks1987 on January 25, 2014, 8:58 GMT

    Listen to this guy people. He should be the chairman of ICC.

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:00 GMT

    Amazing review by an intelligent man who respects integrity! If this proposal goes through then that will become the next global case for corporate governance and the official recession in cricket!

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:04 GMT

    Very true...... time to define the governing indicators.... future directions..... whether cricket's future is bigger or the revenue is the only driving force. Today it is India and one day it can be another Kerry Packer. Cricket for SALE. the leagues are only a new form of packer series

    This is the time for application of every board's wisdom.

    Introducing back the VETO means travelling back to the dark ages and defying all the sensable progress made over number of years.

    Why there was avoidence from the Woolf report which was very rational. Even in this article, the proposal is very rational that the remaining seven should evaluate it without coersion from these proposing three or to get it review by independent consultant, etc. There are many way if there is will.

    The power comes with responsibility but in this draft only power.

    It is really astonishing the the greats, who spent their lives in loving cricket, are silent. Rather disgusting

    So please come together. Love CRICKET

  • milepost on January 25, 2014, 9:10 GMT

    As an Australian I have to say I agree with comments about excluding us. The proposal would only harm cricket and I am a cricket fan before I am an Aussie fan. Mani is spot on. Write to your board if you are English, Indian or Australian and tell them this stinks. If John Howard had become involved with the ICC this would never have happened.

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:13 GMT

    Great review mr. Mani!

  • on January 25, 2014, 9:22 GMT

    He has my vote. That is all perfect good sense.

  • swat1999 on January 25, 2014, 9:23 GMT

    Big 3 proposal is like a business rathar than cricket. Cricket body should cntrol by mutually rathar than 3 rich nation