County news July 17, 2013

Buttler mulls over Somerset future

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Jos Buttler, the England one-day wicketkeeper, will give fresh consideration to leaving Somerset when his contract expires at the end of the season after being replaced behind the stumps by Craig Kieswetter in the Friends Life t20.

Buttler, 22, was offered a new contract at Taunton but delayed signing new terms until it became apparent how much time he would be given with the gloves. He found himself in the outfield again against Northants on Wednesday night and is now bound to take further soundings over a potential move to secure a place as a No. 1 wicketkeeper.

Dave Nosworthy accepted the difficult situation in comments to the Bristol Post "We want him to stay, we have chatted to him and he has got to make a decision," he said. "Jos is a Somerset lad and we would hate to lose him - but he has to do what's best for his career, and we find ourselves in an unbelievable situation.

"It really is like having Gilchrist and Boucher in the same squad - what do you do? Craig is a top keeper and people tend to forget he has played for England very recently. Jos, similarly, is a top keeper and is just getting his opportunities at international level now. They are equally good fielders and they are equally good batters."

Buttler has been highly praised for his hitting ability during his 14 ODIs and 23 T20 internationals but his wicketkeeping is regarded as a work in progress and Somerset face an extremely difficult decision about how best to handle the impasse for the benefit of the club.

Somerset chief executive, Guy Lavender, has stated that the club "will do everything in its power to see that Jos' best interests are met" but Somerset now face a difficult decision about how much they can promise Buttler, who may miss large chunks of the season with England's one-day side, without compromising their selection policy or the overall strength of their squad.

"No assurances have been given to Jos that he would be keeping wicket in all one-day cricket," Lavender said. "What we have committed to do is to make sure that Jos has good opportunities to keep in order to prepare for Team England duties. It is patently ridiculous to guarantee any player a place in the starting line-up for an entire season - that has to be based on performance and what is in the best interests of the team."

Born and raised in Taunton, Buttler is keen to stay at Somerset but his county's decision to reinstate Kieswetter could force his hand. Buttler sought assurances that he would keep wicket in both one-day competitions this season, but found himself in the outfield for Somerset's Friends Life t20 match against Northants in Northampton on Wednesday night.

Somerset were initially spared a difficult decision by Kieswetter's broken thumb that kept him out for two months from the end of April. On his return, Buttler was with England's one-day squad. The pair were available together for the start of the Friends Life t20 and Buttler kept wicket against Gloucestershire and Northamptonshire.

Kieswetter returned for Somerset on June 14 but to further complicate matters Alex Barrow kept wicket for the next four matches. On July 12, Buttler was told that Kieswetter would resume as wicketkeeper against Glamorgan with his thumb fully recovered.

Lavender also expressed the view that Somerset had a responsibility to all the wicketkeepers on their books and described the sharing arrangement as "workable".

Buttler is certain to discuss the latest developments with England's one-day coach, Ashley Giles, and his agent, the former England batsman Neil Fairbrother, before deciding on his future.

Somerset are yet to receive a formal approach for Buttler and are keen for him to stay in the West Country, but informal approaches have a way of queuing up long before the end of a county season.

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  • JG2704 on July 18, 2013, 6:57 GMT

    Since I read this article I went on the Somerset website and read an article from their chairman. In the article it was said that Jos was not promised the WK duties in all shorter formats - so if true he has no reason whatsoever to be betrayed. They also said that while they wanted to keep everyone happy that no player is bigger than the club. It sadly seems inevitable that Jos will leave Somerset which is gutting. To me it's like the football player scenario whereby once their head is turned that's it , but he'll have to look for a side where he will be the no 1 WK to begin with and Jos will also have to remember that Eng don't always stick by a player. A year or more ago Craig was no 1 WK for Eng and then he was shoved out of position and after loss of form out of the side. We also have to remember that before the last T20WC (I think that was it) that Buttler was not seen as a WK for Eng whereas him deputising for Craig at Somerset has always been the case

  • SDHM on July 17, 2013, 16:46 GMT

    Would hate to see him leave, for his limited overs batting alone, but as Nosworthy says, it's a difficult situation. Kieswetter harbours his own ambitions to get back into the England set-up and as it stands is most likely much, much closer to a Test berth than Jos. I find it a shame the club hasn't honoured the deal to let Jos keep in the limited overs competitions though; in fact, I think that's betraying his trust and is really bad management. Just what is going on behind the scenes? The club's throwing away years of hard work in a season of madness.

  • Juiceoftheapple on July 18, 2013, 16:42 GMT

    I genuinely hope this is someone adding 2 and 2 making 5. I think the journo who wrote it has got a lot to answer for. Buttler is unlikely to want to leave, but is very ambitious. Unfortunately it coincides with Somersets whirlwind period (over the last 5 years) finally dipping off. Off topic I think we have neglected our bowling side, I dont think this is Nosworthys fault, we havent got a proper bowling coach, we've got great youngsters who have performed well but arent now anywhere to be seen (Dibble, Gregory, C Overton). Trego patched over it last year with his haul, and the thre of the old guard are still steaming in, but whilst we have gone for the marginal improvements of having international batsman i.e. Peterson, we have missed the opportunity to have the big improvements of a top class seamer. We need to be more bowler friendly if bowlers are to come to us. I hate to say it but if Buttler leaves it will be the end of the great 'Silver' period in our history. Lets hope not.

  • woolwicharsenal on July 18, 2013, 11:49 GMT

    He should go to Kent, and get coaching / assistance from Darren Stevens in how to construct an innings while still hitting the ball very, very hard.

  • Munkeymomo on July 18, 2013, 9:43 GMT

    @irishwolfhound: I think the point is they have to pick between two very high quality keepers and the two mentioned are a perfect similie as they are household names and two of the great. No-one is comparing their ability to them.

    I'd be very annoyed if Jos left Somerset. Judging by the comments made by SCCC, I doubt he will though, I think this is media overhype (again).

    It is a tough situation and we obviously want to see them both stay, but I would hate to see him play for another county, hate it. Kieswetter is (I think underrated) a huge talent for us too and a much better FC player, so I want him to stay too.

  • on July 18, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    If Bairstow carries on in the test team he will soon replace matt prior when he retires unless someone spectacular turns up. Jos Butler is the only wk option for the limited overs side. Its a easy option. He is excellent with the bat and needs to keep more to confirm that place. He needs to move to get first option as wk. Come Middlesex (probably wont but its worth a try hes a talent)

  • YorkshirePudding on July 18, 2013, 7:46 GMT

    A move might be the best decision for the future of his career as it will give him more time behind the stumps and with Prior having 5-6 years left at international level Buttler along with Bairstow could be seen as the next in line for Priors job.

    Hence the more experience Buttler can get keeping, and playing in the longer format the better position he will be in.

  • JG2704 on July 18, 2013, 6:57 GMT

    @mikkeyT on (July 17, 2013, 18:42 GMT) If you're going by what he's done for England then you're right but even then his SR is phenomenal. His record/performances for Somerset are/have been superb in shorter formats. He's probably seen as a bit part/luxury player by England but is crucial to Somerset if we're ever going to win anything limited overs wise

    @Paul Rone-Clarke on (July 17, 2013, 20:31 GMT) Love your post there lol

  • jmcilhinney on July 18, 2013, 2:55 GMT

    @Paul Rone-Clarke on (July 17, 2013, 20:31 GMT), the only reason that Buttler would leave Somerset is to keep wicket so, wherever he goes, I think that he'll be looking for some sort of assurance regarding being the #1 keeper. Of course, his form will have to justify hie remaining so but if he's not going to be first choice elsewhere then he may as well just stay with Somerset.

  • jmcilhinney on July 18, 2013, 2:42 GMT

    This is a tough one for everyone I think. Obviously England think that Buttler is their best option as a keeper/batsman for the shorter formats so you can understand why they want him to get as much time behind the stumps as possible. Somerset obviously want to retain the service of both Buttler and Kieswetter and also want to have their best man behind the stumps. Buttler and Kieswetter both want to spend as much time behind the stumps as possible because that is the best chance for each to get selected for England. If Buttler does decide to move elsewhere, which would be a shame but completely understandable, it's a difficult for other counties too because it's obvious that the main motivation is to play for England, which means less time playing for his new county. I guess the upside for a county is that he's not likely to play Test cricket so they would still have him available for much of the CC.

  • JG2704 on July 18, 2013, 6:57 GMT

    Since I read this article I went on the Somerset website and read an article from their chairman. In the article it was said that Jos was not promised the WK duties in all shorter formats - so if true he has no reason whatsoever to be betrayed. They also said that while they wanted to keep everyone happy that no player is bigger than the club. It sadly seems inevitable that Jos will leave Somerset which is gutting. To me it's like the football player scenario whereby once their head is turned that's it , but he'll have to look for a side where he will be the no 1 WK to begin with and Jos will also have to remember that Eng don't always stick by a player. A year or more ago Craig was no 1 WK for Eng and then he was shoved out of position and after loss of form out of the side. We also have to remember that before the last T20WC (I think that was it) that Buttler was not seen as a WK for Eng whereas him deputising for Craig at Somerset has always been the case

  • SDHM on July 17, 2013, 16:46 GMT

    Would hate to see him leave, for his limited overs batting alone, but as Nosworthy says, it's a difficult situation. Kieswetter harbours his own ambitions to get back into the England set-up and as it stands is most likely much, much closer to a Test berth than Jos. I find it a shame the club hasn't honoured the deal to let Jos keep in the limited overs competitions though; in fact, I think that's betraying his trust and is really bad management. Just what is going on behind the scenes? The club's throwing away years of hard work in a season of madness.

  • Juiceoftheapple on July 18, 2013, 16:42 GMT

    I genuinely hope this is someone adding 2 and 2 making 5. I think the journo who wrote it has got a lot to answer for. Buttler is unlikely to want to leave, but is very ambitious. Unfortunately it coincides with Somersets whirlwind period (over the last 5 years) finally dipping off. Off topic I think we have neglected our bowling side, I dont think this is Nosworthys fault, we havent got a proper bowling coach, we've got great youngsters who have performed well but arent now anywhere to be seen (Dibble, Gregory, C Overton). Trego patched over it last year with his haul, and the thre of the old guard are still steaming in, but whilst we have gone for the marginal improvements of having international batsman i.e. Peterson, we have missed the opportunity to have the big improvements of a top class seamer. We need to be more bowler friendly if bowlers are to come to us. I hate to say it but if Buttler leaves it will be the end of the great 'Silver' period in our history. Lets hope not.

  • woolwicharsenal on July 18, 2013, 11:49 GMT

    He should go to Kent, and get coaching / assistance from Darren Stevens in how to construct an innings while still hitting the ball very, very hard.

  • Munkeymomo on July 18, 2013, 9:43 GMT

    @irishwolfhound: I think the point is they have to pick between two very high quality keepers and the two mentioned are a perfect similie as they are household names and two of the great. No-one is comparing their ability to them.

    I'd be very annoyed if Jos left Somerset. Judging by the comments made by SCCC, I doubt he will though, I think this is media overhype (again).

    It is a tough situation and we obviously want to see them both stay, but I would hate to see him play for another county, hate it. Kieswetter is (I think underrated) a huge talent for us too and a much better FC player, so I want him to stay too.

  • on July 18, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    If Bairstow carries on in the test team he will soon replace matt prior when he retires unless someone spectacular turns up. Jos Butler is the only wk option for the limited overs side. Its a easy option. He is excellent with the bat and needs to keep more to confirm that place. He needs to move to get first option as wk. Come Middlesex (probably wont but its worth a try hes a talent)

  • YorkshirePudding on July 18, 2013, 7:46 GMT

    A move might be the best decision for the future of his career as it will give him more time behind the stumps and with Prior having 5-6 years left at international level Buttler along with Bairstow could be seen as the next in line for Priors job.

    Hence the more experience Buttler can get keeping, and playing in the longer format the better position he will be in.

  • JG2704 on July 18, 2013, 6:57 GMT

    @mikkeyT on (July 17, 2013, 18:42 GMT) If you're going by what he's done for England then you're right but even then his SR is phenomenal. His record/performances for Somerset are/have been superb in shorter formats. He's probably seen as a bit part/luxury player by England but is crucial to Somerset if we're ever going to win anything limited overs wise

    @Paul Rone-Clarke on (July 17, 2013, 20:31 GMT) Love your post there lol

  • jmcilhinney on July 18, 2013, 2:55 GMT

    @Paul Rone-Clarke on (July 17, 2013, 20:31 GMT), the only reason that Buttler would leave Somerset is to keep wicket so, wherever he goes, I think that he'll be looking for some sort of assurance regarding being the #1 keeper. Of course, his form will have to justify hie remaining so but if he's not going to be first choice elsewhere then he may as well just stay with Somerset.

  • jmcilhinney on July 18, 2013, 2:42 GMT

    This is a tough one for everyone I think. Obviously England think that Buttler is their best option as a keeper/batsman for the shorter formats so you can understand why they want him to get as much time behind the stumps as possible. Somerset obviously want to retain the service of both Buttler and Kieswetter and also want to have their best man behind the stumps. Buttler and Kieswetter both want to spend as much time behind the stumps as possible because that is the best chance for each to get selected for England. If Buttler does decide to move elsewhere, which would be a shame but completely understandable, it's a difficult for other counties too because it's obvious that the main motivation is to play for England, which means less time playing for his new county. I guess the upside for a county is that he's not likely to play Test cricket so they would still have him available for much of the CC.

  • Rob57 on July 17, 2013, 23:36 GMT

    As a Somerset member, this news does not surprise or disappoint me. Buttler is no way near and never will be the standard of batsman or keeper that Kieswetter is. In my opinion Buttler will never play test match cricket (as some 'experts' think) and will indeed struggle to carve out a first class career, due to the fact that he cannot construct an innings, he will play a couple nice shots for 4 and then get out playing a stupid shot, you cannot rely on him in first class cricket in fact he is like a walking wicket.

    Just because Buttler has one good knock in 10 which happens to be on TV he gets hugely built up but he is completely overrated and inconsistent as a batsmen, with just one Championship score of over 100 in 2 years. And he is not even the second but the third best keeper at the club behind Kiewswetter and Barrow. Notts is the most likely destination for him from what I have heard.

  • MaxwellHouse on July 17, 2013, 22:03 GMT

    I think it's a tough predicament for Somerset, but Kieswetter is better with both gloves and bat, particularly in first-class cricket, so they should probably stick with him. Given that he averages over 40 in first-class, he may well be a contender for the Test team when Prior hangs up the gloves. Butler? Talented striker of the ball, but bats too low down the order at a batting paradise.

  • Whatsgoinoffoutthere on July 17, 2013, 21:44 GMT

    Well if Buttler doesn't mind playing for shirt buttons Kent are currently using the veteran Geraint Jones but are probably stone broke...

  • Jeppo on July 17, 2013, 21:42 GMT

    A lot of people are bashing Surrey because they spend lots of money on lots of players. I think that is a little too harsh. So far this year Surrey have handed caps to 22 players in the three main competitions (County Championship, YB40 and FLT20), which is certainly not the most of any county. In fact, it is just one player more than the average for all counties (21). Somerset themselves have also used 22 players, and Yorkshire have used 25!

    According to Cricinfo, Surrey have two wicketkeepers in their squad - Steven Davies and Gary Wilson. They are both very fine players with averages well in the 30's. They are alright on the wicketkeeping front so I don't think they want another one.

    So where could he go? Well I presume he wants a division one team for next year. Middlesex is probably the best candidate, since they have only one keeper in John Simpson. Lancashire is another option (they should achieve promotion), although they tend to pick home-grown talent over others.

  • on July 17, 2013, 21:29 GMT

    A difficult position and one the Shire will struggle over for many years to come. Craig is the option for me as a better keeper and top order runs. Notts it is then to take over from Chris Read. But a great shame that the Shire cannot keep home grown talent.

  • on July 17, 2013, 20:31 GMT

    Surrey will buy his contract. If anyone whose been on TV suddenly becomes available - Surrey buy them - whether it makes sense in terms of team make up or cost or not. Surrey don't care - they just buy them - play 5 keepers in a game? Yeah they'd do that. Whatever. Common sense doesn't apply to Surrey - just money does. Buy players mis-use them in unbalanced teams - and watch them leave.

    Saw them with 3 frontline spinners Keedy, Batty and Ansari - then they bowled Van Bergh ahead of all three. Not even the Indian teams of the dustbowl 70's did that.

    I don't think Surrey management and selectors could make sensible team decisions if they prayed on it. So many players their were in the squad. All cash and no management. Surrey in a nutshell.

    Buttler will go to Surrey and play alongside several other keepers there and people will wonder why he is doing that as it's what he had at Somerset (the answer will be Surrey offered him a better contract)

  • OhhhhhMattyMatty on July 17, 2013, 19:51 GMT

    Buttler is the best finish in England. But his early International exposure has severely dented his confidence! May take him a year or 2 to come back to top form. Need to get Steve Davies back in as keeper/opener.

  • on July 17, 2013, 19:00 GMT

    It annoys me when people say he isnt good enough for England. His record does not reflect his ability in the slightest. He has been unbelievable for Somerset in the shorter form of the game and this year is starting to mature in the longer form. He pretty much single handedly got Somerset to the 40 over final a 2 years ago and has played very well for England A/Lions so why wouldn't he deserve his chance? Sight better than Davies and as a Sussex fan can say if he can recreate his form at county standard he will be better than Prior

  • on July 17, 2013, 18:51 GMT

    If I were a Somerset supporter (believe me I'm really not) but I would get rid of Kieswetter over Buttler. Kieswetter is not as good a keeper, and their batting ability is pretty similar, no brainer to me.

  • Harvey on July 17, 2013, 18:50 GMT

    I can already hear the rustle of chequebooks and the whirring of printers spewing out draft contracts coming from the direction of South London... He might be a bit too young to fit in there though!

  • mikkeyT on July 17, 2013, 18:42 GMT

    I do not get why everyone rates Buttler, his match winning nock of 47 against New Zealand is his only score in 11 innings. 6 scores under 10, averaging less than 7. Then coupled with distinctly average keeping looks to me like a player who isnt going to step up to international duty.

  • JG2704 on July 17, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    Wonder why there seems to have been an end to the deal whereby Jos keeps YB/T20 and Craig keeps in CC and can sympathise with Jos here. Can see why Craig'd want to keep in all formats as he must harbour ambitions himself to keep again for England but thought that if Craig was dead against the arrangement it would not have happened at all or Craig would have made noises about it at the time.But I'm guessing Craig has recently said he's not happy. I'd love to have both still at the club but it looks like Jos will now go which I'm gutted about. Having said that I think if push came to shove I'd keep Craig purely because I think he'll be available more often Dont think Jos will take over from Prior as IMO theyre grooming the other JB for that role but I wouldn't be surprised if they've put things in his head along those lines. I just hope he realises that if your face fits they'll stick by you but if it doesn't they're not afraid to be ruthless - ask 2 of his current teammates

  • on July 17, 2013, 17:53 GMT

    Can't believe people want him at Lancy. I agree he is a class act, but if we can't produce our own keeper when we have Lancs, Merseyside, Cumbria, Cheshire and possibly Staffs (some Derbyshire too) to choose from it's a sad state of affairs

  • barrick on July 17, 2013, 17:37 GMT

    As a Yorkshireman living in Somerset, their season has depressingly familiar tones: an aggressive (pro) stance on the captain by the chairman, correctly I feel, former players (Caddick) bemoaning the setup and now promising, or even marquee, players about to leave.

    I fear that they may be about to find out, as we have, that hard-earned progress can be undone in about a tenth of the time it takes to establish.

  • cabinet96 on July 17, 2013, 17:28 GMT

    Massive massive shame. I don't blame Somerset at all, as I do think Kieswetter is a better gloveman, it's just unfortunate really. They're both fighting for the same spot for England and both will want to be keeping as much as they can.

  • ChewtonMendip on July 17, 2013, 17:24 GMT

    It would be a disaster if the Somerset management forced Jos Buttler out of the club. Jos has Somerset cricket running through his veins having been born and raised in Somerset and been a supporter of the club since he knew what cricket was. He loves Somerset and Somerset cricket just as much as his captain. For us to produce a potentially world class cricketer and then to force him out of the club to protect the place of someone with less potential would be my worst moment in 37 years of being a devotee of Somerset cricket. Why have they given the gloves to CK again tonight? Who is making these decisions after Buttler was told he would keep in overs cricket this season? Is this lack of understanding that Andrew Caddick was tallking about earlier in the week? We must keep Buttler at all costs, even if it means Kieswetter moving to another county.

  • wrenx on July 17, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    Ahem... Butler and Kieswetter in the same squad is like picking between Boucher and Gilchrist? At least they're not short of hyperbole over at Somerset. Neither of these two have shown they can hold down a T20 spot for England, why are they being compared to Gilchrist and Boucher? I still don't see why Matt Prior is seen as a test-only keeper, it must be galling to see a string of keepers come and fail with the gloves for England while he watches from the sidelines.

  • bobmartin on July 17, 2013, 17:19 GMT

    This was a situation that had to come to a head sooner or later... If what I read in the article is true, then Somerset haven't been particularly fair to Buttler in that now, he basically is simply cover for Kieswetter and if he doesn't continue to keep regularly, then he will never progress.. For the sake of his career... it's best he moves on before it's too late.

  • lankymanky on July 17, 2013, 17:17 GMT

    Like the lancs link regarding his agent Neil Fairbrother, but I doubt he will be giving any old boy favours to the team and although Buttler is a much better batsman than Cross, Gareth is better with the gloves. My favourite if he does leave would be the Giles link and a trip to Warickshire to replace Timmy Ambrose.

  • on July 17, 2013, 16:52 GMT

    Thats bad for Somerset fans. Personally, i prefer Buttler to Kiesy as he always excites me when he is at the crease producing outrageous shtots. Please stay, Jos!! Besides, hes English, Kiesy is Saffers!!

  • Dan9999 on July 17, 2013, 16:39 GMT

    Please come to Lancashire!!!

  • Dan9999 on July 17, 2013, 16:39 GMT

    Please come to Lancashire!!!

  • on July 17, 2013, 16:52 GMT

    Thats bad for Somerset fans. Personally, i prefer Buttler to Kiesy as he always excites me when he is at the crease producing outrageous shtots. Please stay, Jos!! Besides, hes English, Kiesy is Saffers!!

  • lankymanky on July 17, 2013, 17:17 GMT

    Like the lancs link regarding his agent Neil Fairbrother, but I doubt he will be giving any old boy favours to the team and although Buttler is a much better batsman than Cross, Gareth is better with the gloves. My favourite if he does leave would be the Giles link and a trip to Warickshire to replace Timmy Ambrose.

  • bobmartin on July 17, 2013, 17:19 GMT

    This was a situation that had to come to a head sooner or later... If what I read in the article is true, then Somerset haven't been particularly fair to Buttler in that now, he basically is simply cover for Kieswetter and if he doesn't continue to keep regularly, then he will never progress.. For the sake of his career... it's best he moves on before it's too late.

  • wrenx on July 17, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    Ahem... Butler and Kieswetter in the same squad is like picking between Boucher and Gilchrist? At least they're not short of hyperbole over at Somerset. Neither of these two have shown they can hold down a T20 spot for England, why are they being compared to Gilchrist and Boucher? I still don't see why Matt Prior is seen as a test-only keeper, it must be galling to see a string of keepers come and fail with the gloves for England while he watches from the sidelines.

  • ChewtonMendip on July 17, 2013, 17:24 GMT

    It would be a disaster if the Somerset management forced Jos Buttler out of the club. Jos has Somerset cricket running through his veins having been born and raised in Somerset and been a supporter of the club since he knew what cricket was. He loves Somerset and Somerset cricket just as much as his captain. For us to produce a potentially world class cricketer and then to force him out of the club to protect the place of someone with less potential would be my worst moment in 37 years of being a devotee of Somerset cricket. Why have they given the gloves to CK again tonight? Who is making these decisions after Buttler was told he would keep in overs cricket this season? Is this lack of understanding that Andrew Caddick was tallking about earlier in the week? We must keep Buttler at all costs, even if it means Kieswetter moving to another county.

  • cabinet96 on July 17, 2013, 17:28 GMT

    Massive massive shame. I don't blame Somerset at all, as I do think Kieswetter is a better gloveman, it's just unfortunate really. They're both fighting for the same spot for England and both will want to be keeping as much as they can.

  • barrick on July 17, 2013, 17:37 GMT

    As a Yorkshireman living in Somerset, their season has depressingly familiar tones: an aggressive (pro) stance on the captain by the chairman, correctly I feel, former players (Caddick) bemoaning the setup and now promising, or even marquee, players about to leave.

    I fear that they may be about to find out, as we have, that hard-earned progress can be undone in about a tenth of the time it takes to establish.

  • on July 17, 2013, 17:53 GMT

    Can't believe people want him at Lancy. I agree he is a class act, but if we can't produce our own keeper when we have Lancs, Merseyside, Cumbria, Cheshire and possibly Staffs (some Derbyshire too) to choose from it's a sad state of affairs

  • JG2704 on July 17, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    Wonder why there seems to have been an end to the deal whereby Jos keeps YB/T20 and Craig keeps in CC and can sympathise with Jos here. Can see why Craig'd want to keep in all formats as he must harbour ambitions himself to keep again for England but thought that if Craig was dead against the arrangement it would not have happened at all or Craig would have made noises about it at the time.But I'm guessing Craig has recently said he's not happy. I'd love to have both still at the club but it looks like Jos will now go which I'm gutted about. Having said that I think if push came to shove I'd keep Craig purely because I think he'll be available more often Dont think Jos will take over from Prior as IMO theyre grooming the other JB for that role but I wouldn't be surprised if they've put things in his head along those lines. I just hope he realises that if your face fits they'll stick by you but if it doesn't they're not afraid to be ruthless - ask 2 of his current teammates