England v India, 2nd npower Test, Trent Bridge August 2, 2011

Ganguly rips into India's build-up

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Former India captain Sourav Ganguly has slammed the team's preparations for the high-profile England tour, saying the amount of cricket being played cannot be used as an excuse for their poor show in the first two Tests. His comments came shortly after MS Dhoni had suggested that the start of the tour less than a week after three back-to-back Tests in the Caribbean had affected India's performance.

"I'm too fed up hearing this "time to recover" [excuse] - don't play for India then, you know this is what it is, you have to come back and play a Test series," Ganguly told Indian news channel Headlines Today / Aaj Tak. "And it was an important Test series, it was a marquee Test series to decide who was the No. 1 Test side in the world and you cannot say that. Okay you've lost and you haven't played well, the matter ends there, just accept that and move on."

India's No. 1 ranking is now in jeopardy after two thumping defeats to England, who now only need to draw the remaining Tests to take the top spot. Ganguly urged the Indian players to move on from the demoralising two weeks.

"You have to put it behind ... You are 28, 29, 30, you won't get to play for India all your life. Make the most when you get it, once it goes, you won't get it back, even how much you want it."

Ganguly also lashed out at India's "soft cricket" and the long-standing failings against the bouncer, singling out the younger batsmen who are yet to cement their place. "The number of batsmen who got out to the short deliveries today was appalling," he said. "Suresh Raina, Yuvraj Singh, Abhinav Mukund - it was an opportunity for them to establish themselves, Raina and Yuvraj are fighting for a place in the Test squad to get that No. 6 slot which is still vacant for a long long time now."

At Trent Bridge, Gautam Gambhir's absence due to injury disrupted India's batting order, pushing Rahul Dravid to the opening spot and VVS Laxman to No. 3 - a position Ganguly felt Laxman was unsuited for in seaming conditions. "Laxman is comfortable against the bouncing ball because that's his technique, he hangs back. But the moment the ball starts swinging, he doesn't get on the front foot. He should be batting five or six."

He also questioned the absence of a back-up opener in the squad, especially after Virender Sehwag was ruled out of the first two Tests. "You must remember - every time you travel abroad, you have to carry three openers. They knew Sehwag was injured, and you needed to carry some, what's wrong with Wasim Jaffer? What wrong has that kid done?"

Another source of disappointment for Ganguly was the batting of the Indian tail-enders. While India's final four wickets contributed only 118 runs in the two innings at Trent Bridge - most of those runs coming too late to impact the course of the game - England's tail put on 338. "You look at [Stuart] Broad, [Tim] Bresnan, [Graeme] Swann they had put a price on their wicket; but that was not the case with Praveen Kumar, Sreesanth, even Harbhajan Singh until he did in the second innings," he said. "Rahul Dravid was stuck with them in the first innings and they kept falling like nine pins. In the second innings, we saw today Sachin Tendulkar was batting and they kept getting out."

The series and the No. 1 ranking are still not lost for India, and they will be boosted by the return of Gambhir for the third Test, and two other key players - Sehwag and Zaheer Khan - could also be back. "India need to quickly recover from this; they have a Test match in Birmingham in a week's time, and have a lot of issues to settle."

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  • jayarian on August 5, 2011, 22:58 GMT

    I agree completely with Ganguly.

  • AnkTheHunk on August 5, 2011, 19:58 GMT

    I for sure do not think England are the #1 side...they beat a weak Australian team & half a 2nd string Indian Team who are coming out of the World Cup, IPL & West Indies tour. What has England done since the World Cup? They have a fully fit team & aren't suffering from fatigue. Sure Dad shouldn't be the one complaining of the short ball but it is try why is everyone so sublime to it, just duck or move or pull. Sehwag plays it well & yes Dhoni needs to contribute but he has done everything right till now so give him a break & give Harbhajan a wake up call by dropping him. Come on let's back our Indian team they deserve remember the Dhoni 6 to win the WCUP...I say 2-2 series draw what are the odds..

  • cricket_fan_1 on August 5, 2011, 11:05 GMT

    No synergy, No Team work, no fighting spirit by the bowlers. Nothing done right. If Bhaji is not suited to bowl then why is he in the team. Tired of seeing the young batsmen's poor test cricket techniques. The bowlers have no penetration. Even in English conditions Indian bowlers can't get wickets. Bowlers need to take more responsibility.

  • on August 5, 2011, 8:43 GMT

    Wasim Jaffer EXCELLENT INDIAN BATSMAN Bring Him On

  • Sudu_putha on August 5, 2011, 7:02 GMT

    India is running out of LUCK... SL played way better than in ENG...I remember some Indian fans were making comments like What SL has achieved... Well now what ur team have achieved in ENG.. 2 losses..

  • ramanan.ch on August 4, 2011, 21:54 GMT

    For people cursing Ganguly, look at his statistics please. He has a career average of 42.17 with 16 centuries and 35 fifties at his position down. Nobody cares whether he could play short balls or not. But, he could stay at the crease and score runs. Usually at a brisk pace. Handling short balls is not always playing pull shorts. Leaving them and surviving against them is the most important thinkg. He did that reasonably everywhere. Check cricinfo http://tinyurl.com/GangulyTestStatistics He averages 65 in England infact. Now, look at Dhoni's statistics. http://tinyurl.com/DhoniTestStatistics and look at his statistics especially overseas. Only in Bangladesh, he has a good average. I am not surprised with similar stats against Yuvraj too. Raina is new and needs to give him a bit more time. If Dada gives a wake up call, wake up Indian team/board ! Btw, why no call for overseas specialist Rohit Sharma yet? Why Kohli again who was exposed against short pitched bowling in WI?

  • on August 4, 2011, 21:01 GMT

    Poor performance of India team will continue until Indian batsmen are OK playing pace pitcches. Very few technically correct batmen like Dravid ,VVSL,Gambir,Sunny G knows how to face face comming balls. Sachin also capable but not performing whever needed. Saurav is correct some way. Dhonis excueses are not real excuses . Why can't Inida have 1 or 2 pace pitches build for practice.Willl be helpful for pace bowlers also.No money is it so? Currently Engalnd team is better .I am not sure India can make next 2 test matches draw atleast.

  • Ekkanath on August 4, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Ganguly is trying is best to become part of the management team,if not the manager. But, what he says makes some sense. But, it is indeed quite surprising that umpires did not stop the flurry of short-balls. I had thought that they could only bowl one bouncer per over. Has this rule changed?

  • SachinPhil on August 4, 2011, 19:22 GMT

    does dhoni bring anything to the table apart from 'luck' and the occasional 50? Let alone stunning catches or even vague signs of batting consistency..

  • InnocentGuy on August 4, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    Dada ma man. Everyone remembers how 'well' you played the short ball. Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for you. But you, of all people, should know that it isn't easy for the Indian team (although I'm not sure why) to play short balls. Say they didn't prepare enough, I agree. Say they are quoting volume of cricket as excuse, I agree (to some extent). But don't make it sound like you were an absolutely awesome player of the short delivery and you just can't seem to understand why the current Indian team is unable to deal with it. Just back them. That's what the team needs right now. Everyone's backing. They won the freakin' WC just months ago for God's sake! 90% of these people who think they are qualified to make comments aren't good at anything they do in their lives. Yet these are the people that pass judgment on Indian players who have, for a fact, performed well on the field many a times.

  • jayarian on August 5, 2011, 22:58 GMT

    I agree completely with Ganguly.

  • AnkTheHunk on August 5, 2011, 19:58 GMT

    I for sure do not think England are the #1 side...they beat a weak Australian team & half a 2nd string Indian Team who are coming out of the World Cup, IPL & West Indies tour. What has England done since the World Cup? They have a fully fit team & aren't suffering from fatigue. Sure Dad shouldn't be the one complaining of the short ball but it is try why is everyone so sublime to it, just duck or move or pull. Sehwag plays it well & yes Dhoni needs to contribute but he has done everything right till now so give him a break & give Harbhajan a wake up call by dropping him. Come on let's back our Indian team they deserve remember the Dhoni 6 to win the WCUP...I say 2-2 series draw what are the odds..

  • cricket_fan_1 on August 5, 2011, 11:05 GMT

    No synergy, No Team work, no fighting spirit by the bowlers. Nothing done right. If Bhaji is not suited to bowl then why is he in the team. Tired of seeing the young batsmen's poor test cricket techniques. The bowlers have no penetration. Even in English conditions Indian bowlers can't get wickets. Bowlers need to take more responsibility.

  • on August 5, 2011, 8:43 GMT

    Wasim Jaffer EXCELLENT INDIAN BATSMAN Bring Him On

  • Sudu_putha on August 5, 2011, 7:02 GMT

    India is running out of LUCK... SL played way better than in ENG...I remember some Indian fans were making comments like What SL has achieved... Well now what ur team have achieved in ENG.. 2 losses..

  • ramanan.ch on August 4, 2011, 21:54 GMT

    For people cursing Ganguly, look at his statistics please. He has a career average of 42.17 with 16 centuries and 35 fifties at his position down. Nobody cares whether he could play short balls or not. But, he could stay at the crease and score runs. Usually at a brisk pace. Handling short balls is not always playing pull shorts. Leaving them and surviving against them is the most important thinkg. He did that reasonably everywhere. Check cricinfo http://tinyurl.com/GangulyTestStatistics He averages 65 in England infact. Now, look at Dhoni's statistics. http://tinyurl.com/DhoniTestStatistics and look at his statistics especially overseas. Only in Bangladesh, he has a good average. I am not surprised with similar stats against Yuvraj too. Raina is new and needs to give him a bit more time. If Dada gives a wake up call, wake up Indian team/board ! Btw, why no call for overseas specialist Rohit Sharma yet? Why Kohli again who was exposed against short pitched bowling in WI?

  • on August 4, 2011, 21:01 GMT

    Poor performance of India team will continue until Indian batsmen are OK playing pace pitcches. Very few technically correct batmen like Dravid ,VVSL,Gambir,Sunny G knows how to face face comming balls. Sachin also capable but not performing whever needed. Saurav is correct some way. Dhonis excueses are not real excuses . Why can't Inida have 1 or 2 pace pitches build for practice.Willl be helpful for pace bowlers also.No money is it so? Currently Engalnd team is better .I am not sure India can make next 2 test matches draw atleast.

  • Ekkanath on August 4, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Ganguly is trying is best to become part of the management team,if not the manager. But, what he says makes some sense. But, it is indeed quite surprising that umpires did not stop the flurry of short-balls. I had thought that they could only bowl one bouncer per over. Has this rule changed?

  • SachinPhil on August 4, 2011, 19:22 GMT

    does dhoni bring anything to the table apart from 'luck' and the occasional 50? Let alone stunning catches or even vague signs of batting consistency..

  • InnocentGuy on August 4, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    Dada ma man. Everyone remembers how 'well' you played the short ball. Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for you. But you, of all people, should know that it isn't easy for the Indian team (although I'm not sure why) to play short balls. Say they didn't prepare enough, I agree. Say they are quoting volume of cricket as excuse, I agree (to some extent). But don't make it sound like you were an absolutely awesome player of the short delivery and you just can't seem to understand why the current Indian team is unable to deal with it. Just back them. That's what the team needs right now. Everyone's backing. They won the freakin' WC just months ago for God's sake! 90% of these people who think they are qualified to make comments aren't good at anything they do in their lives. Yet these are the people that pass judgment on Indian players who have, for a fact, performed well on the field many a times.

  • on August 4, 2011, 15:24 GMT

    Its important to realize that when someone criticizes a team, it means he cares for the team and wants it to succeed. I totally agree with Ganguly's points here and it has nothing to do with his cricketing career. If he can't comment the way he has, then Mr Bhogle can't commentate (having played no cricket whatsoever). But Harsha is the one of the best commentators around, isn't it?

  • play_cricket99 on August 4, 2011, 13:34 GMT

    India is seriously hampered by absence of zaheer, sehwag and gambir. honestly mr dhoni and harbhajan have become liabilities in this test series. England i feel is never a number one team. Their performance only reflects india bowling attack. example Mr kevin peterson has not scored a tonne since last 2 years and he comes and scores a 200 against a weak indian bowling attack. India has lots of issue to reolsve but a current team with teh inclusion of sehwag, zaheer,gambhir,ojha and kohli should help changes india;s fortunes in this test series.

  • on August 4, 2011, 12:54 GMT

    Right now Mr. MS Dhoni is leading the team like an absolute Jackass!!! A bad carpenter always blames his tools. I was surprised how many runs were leaked to England via KP and Bell on the 3rd day of the 2nd test. Indian team not playing up to par. No TEAMWORK is evident from the way they are currently playing in the Tests in England. It is an absolute humiliation to see how the Indian team is performing presently in England. Wake up and get your bloody act together - you Indian team!!! We ( the public ) dont need to pay and watch this kind of crap.

  • Santhakumar.A on August 4, 2011, 11:33 GMT

    Dada is perfect, Simple thing Dhoni cannot ride on his luck, its time to show his captaincy skills. Till date it was try and hit. Now the real show for Dhoni. My suggestion is throw dhoni out and see what team does...

  • Amit.Rocks on August 4, 2011, 9:07 GMT

    Well India on the verge of losing the no. 1 spot, but let me tell you all guys we Indian never losses our hope until everything is lost. We fight until we are dead, so don't lose your heart we will definitely bounce back. After every failure there is a success coz man learns from failure.

  • SimplySoms on August 4, 2011, 8:59 GMT

    Ganguly talking abt bouncers, this is silly, a person who cant play leg side for his life time talking abt preperation of indian team, support your team when it is down.

  • justcricket1 on August 4, 2011, 8:45 GMT

    Indian team never deserved to be number one test team, they became number one not because they were playing good cricket, but bcoz others were not playing good cricket, cannot except Indian team to be number one test team for so long because expecting India to win test series in England, South Africa and Australia is a very very tough task for them. They can win in India but not outside. Every time we cannot expect Dravid, Laxman and Tendulkar to score, remaining 4 batsmen (Including the LUCKY captain dhoni) should also know how to play outside sub-continent.

  • CricInd1 on August 4, 2011, 8:27 GMT

    @jason79...agree SREESANTH has leaked runs but remember he has got important wickets also..he has got KP out twice..the problem is Indian batsmen are taking it lightly and not concentrating and giving away wickets...they are surely lacking concentration in the game and they have to bring it back if they want a win from here...good luck India...Kudos to England for their consistent performance

  • Bivish on August 4, 2011, 7:26 GMT

    @jason 79 : hello my dear friend before even saying something about Ganguly you need to think about yourself. He is the best captain, india had ever seen. The process of going to No1 team in the world started long long years back and he is the one who started it. Ganguly is the man who supported Viru and made Viru into the batsman what he is now, not only viru a lot of other players. but he couldnt get the full use of em. because they were maturing as players and by then he left indian team. so before u criticise him you should think that he was the indian captain and he was also performing along with the team not only guiding em. Dhoni dint performed as a batsman & wicket keeper. he dropped peterson on first innings and we lost he is just an ordinary batsman,normal wkeeper and a lucky captain ( have lot of option for bowlers and batsmen). so please dont criticise ganguly on your knowledge of cricket as everybody(indians) knows & acknowledge him as the best captain of india. cheers

  • VAS4 on August 4, 2011, 7:21 GMT

    Dada was not hinting players choosing ipl over India. IPL is conducted by BCCI and if the lead players dont play it, then who will be interested to watch it? I dont understand some people here criticizing Dada for his technique against shortballs. He is trying to point out the areas to better in our players. If India is number one now, then we all must thank Dada too. It is not only Dhoni's luck and magic. Dada has every right to say his opinion like everyone of us. We are the supporters of cricket, we care and we all will voice our opinions. Stop pointing fingers at Dada.

  • kewlkanna on August 4, 2011, 6:38 GMT

    I don't understand why people below are hating to see Ganguly talk like what he did in this article. Ganguly has faced difficulties with the short ball that doesn't make him a nonsense speaker when suggesting things to current cricketers. I completely agree with what Ganguly has told and will second it. people here are forgetting the fact that GANGULY WAS THE CAPTAIN WHO LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR OUR TEAM TO WIN 2011 WC. HE WAS THE MAN WHO ENCOURAGED PLAYERS LIKE YUVRAJ, RAINA and VIRU.

  • on August 4, 2011, 5:06 GMT

    Ganguly is talking about short ball..joke of the twenty first century. He himself vulnerable against it. At present india are playing non stop cricket which is bound to affect the performance of the players. Trim the schedule. Everything will be alright. Or else have two pools of players. Players should be rested. Rotation of players will be the solution. Dhoni is always right. Ganguly when he was playing seldom performed well against good attack. He was majestic against minnows.

  • on August 4, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    it will be good to have gambhir and sehwag back at the top it will give a much needed stability at the top of the order and hopefully they can influence a resounding turnaround and square up the series.

  • shrnk on August 4, 2011, 4:35 GMT

    Recipe to beat India:

    1) Prepare seamer friendly or swinging pitch with good bounce. 2) Bounce out the Indians. All are susceptible. Otherwise the swing and seam will get them. 3) Don't worry if Laxman or Dravid are batting serenely, they won't score many runs, only gobble up overs. Once they fall, a mini-collapse or a full collapse is almost guaranteed. 4) Be aggressive against the Indian bowlers and fielders. They quickly loose hope, line and length. Even a tailender looks like Sachin Tendulkar on a batting paradise.

  • Yorker_ToeCrusher on August 4, 2011, 3:58 GMT

    Most 'expert' fear bcci.But the tough guy Ganguly is,I hope he will continue to critisize and influence the decision making process in Indian cricket.Well done dada.

  • Cpt.Meanster on August 4, 2011, 3:52 GMT

    @Scott Sandars: Agreed dude but apart from the recent Ashes how many overseas tours has England won ? they can NEVER beat India in India so does that mean they are qualified for the no.1 ranking ? NO ! they are not. They need to tick some areas before they even think about themselves like that. They have won in Australia, NZ and the WI for starters good. They are yet to win in India, SL, SA etc. Let them do that first and then people like you can brag all you want. But they will never beat in India. They simply cannot.

  • CricOr on August 4, 2011, 1:32 GMT

    Ganguly talking about being unprepared for bouncers cheers!. He is very much right. Dravid maybe the only batsman in Indian team whose percentage of doing well out of Asia high. If India plays more cricket away from home, their rankings will fall down.

  • just_dravid on August 4, 2011, 1:08 GMT

    @ sri1967 well said dear.... where was dhoni when they played IPL in indian summers with 45 tempreture????? they didnt get tired n exhusted then?? NO...coz they've paid a huge amount for that n now thay r playing for the nation n moreover the TEST cricket thatswhy the funda of tiredness is the best difense for their poor show..... sad to see that...........

  • on August 3, 2011, 23:19 GMT

    Bangwagon starting to look a little empty now, eh? Until India can prove they can win overseas constantly, they have no right holding the Number 1 ranking in Test cricket.

  • on August 3, 2011, 23:10 GMT

    Totally agree with the whole "support your team when down" concept! What good are fans otherwise? Series and ranking are far from lost. I just hope Sehwag isn't burdened by a billion beating hearts. Go India!

  • Suvendusdey on August 3, 2011, 22:45 GMT

    People who are blaming Ganguly for this article do not understand the real sense....here Ganguly is helping the Indian team indirectly. He just pointed the mistakes of captain, wrong selection of players according to the condition of team and the selection of players position to play...these are keys for the team to play with their best efforts......After the worldcup players have enough time to have rest and can recover from injury easily without playing so much of IPL before going to WI or Eng....if IPL is bigger than international matches then may be the comments of Captain DHONI is correct!!!!!!!......seems to be the real fact......

  • daniyal1 on August 3, 2011, 22:33 GMT

    The no 1 team in the world cant face boucers by medium pacer ......... what would happend if akhtar and lee bowl them bouncer ........... i think the withdraw innings ....... remove ur helmets and u naturally understand how to leave a bouncer ........ the legends like zaheer abbass and sunil gavaskar naver take helmets in there whole career and they have to face the fastest bowling attact like holding .imran khan denis lily on the fast green top wicket..... are they affraid to play boucer ........ goo to the nets and learn how to play boucer and than play TEST CRICKET because it is not for learners ....... it is for masters..........

  • on August 3, 2011, 21:18 GMT

    @karan: yes MSD and team got us WC.. but does the same team can bat for 2 days? @ all: I seriously thot when Gambhir went out for Injury, another opener wud hav called from India. If not Wasim Jaffer, anyone else.!! But they showed no interests and they exposed our prime batsmen too early....

  • karan2404 on August 3, 2011, 19:33 GMT

    Enough,just enough all you Indians who criticize our team.How can you forget so early what great joy they have give us 3 months bck.Yes,world cup was played on Indian soil but still you gotto beat the best teams and India did it so well.And people were worshipping Dhoni. I do agree that they have performed badly in first two test matches,but all of us do mistakes.They deserve one chance guys.And i am sure we all will see the change on 10th aug.Dhoni is a great leader and a real man and i am proud of my team. Come on Indians,lets support our team in such times.They need us.....

  • jason79 on August 3, 2011, 19:29 GMT

    MR GANGULY , u speak as if you were the greatest captain of the indian team , under your captaincy also , india has lost a lot of test matches and one day series , forget all , u couldnot even get a world cup for us , so what xcuse do you have for that ???It is easy as a commentor or as a fan watching the match on tv to comment on each and everything , but try being in the shoes of the indian players like Dhoni, Harbhajan, praveen kumar, ishant sharma , etc etc ..These are players who have faced the south africa series , world cup, ipl and the westindies tour all within a span of 6 months , they afre humans not machines ...if anything or anyone is to be blamed it is the BCCI for scheduling tournments only for their profit and the IPL ..iF YOU WANT TO BLAME PLAYERS THEN WHAT ABOUT SREESANTH WHO BOWLED 13 OVERS IN WORLD CUP GAVE AWAY MORE THAN 100 RUNS , AND HAVE COME TO THIS MATCH FRESH , BUT STILL ENDED UP LEAKING RUNS INDIAN FANS , MY REQUEST IS GROW UP , SUPPORT YOUR TEAM WHEN DOWN

  • Nampally on August 3, 2011, 19:07 GMT

    Well said Dada!. If India cannot send a proper team prepared morally & physically, they should not send one. This team was royally humiliated. Team goes there a few days before the first match saying that it does not need any more preparation beyond what they had in WI. But Tendulkar, Yuvraj, Zaheer, Gambhir & Sehwag were coming out of injuries and never had time to practice. So these guys should have arrived in England 3 weeks ahead of the rest and undergo intensive training to get their bodies in shape. The team itself played only one practice match before the tests, while they needed 6. Who has arranged such a crazy schedule? At least that would have got the team prepared in England. Zaheer limping off was poor reflection on his fitness. He let his country down.Compare this to England's enthusiasm & preparation even though they were playing on their own soil. This should be a wake up call for the Indian selectors for taking things so lightly & making a mockery of the game..

  • justprashanth on August 3, 2011, 19:04 GMT

    @Natarajan Padmaraj.. you forgot to say Sachin Tendulkar ji

  • VAS4 on August 3, 2011, 18:32 GMT

    Dhoni says they are tired. Such delicate darlings they are. There are millions of young cricketers in India waiting for a chance to play in the national team, and I swear, they will play every day if given a chance. Why are you so tired? total time you batted in the crease was like about 20 minutes and five seconds! If you are that tired, why did you agree for the series? Everyone is looking forward to Sehwag now, but he is only human. I dont think anything is going to change with his arrival apart from excitement of the crowd. I am really sorry for Ravi Shastri , because India is now heading towards 4-0 whitewash. Dhoni enjoyed the fruits of Ganguly's hardwork, and now we all know that luck cant win you all the matches!

  • on August 3, 2011, 18:29 GMT

    sorry to say they will still losse it with 4-0 margin

  • howizzat on August 3, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    If India is under- prepared then why blame Dhoni? Its the head-ache given by BCCI. Ganguly's XI also did not fare very well in England. The same Ganguly was reluctant to open the Indian batting and Dravid had to it from him. Did Dada for got all this? Dada you also know that its the English conditions that Indians are always uncomfortable with for ever. Wadekar's 42 all out is the best example. It takes time to. Hopefully in the second half India will come over strongly. So stop slamming, for some cheap publicity. Be honest.

  • on August 3, 2011, 18:04 GMT

    Well, I always have supported selection of Virat Kohli. He is a classy batsman with compact defense. If he has not succeeded out of India that does not mean, it is an end of the road. Give him the chance to prove. Everytime, selectors take the risk of pushing in youngsters and immediately put under fire of facing hostile building and that too in testing conditions.

    I would say give them some time to play on different wickets outside India and instill some confidence. Show them that they are the future of Indian cricket and the BCCI is fully supportive in giving them enough time to prove themselves.

    Virat Kohli, Suresh Raina, Yuvraj Singh, Rohit Sharma, Cheteshwar Pujara are really upcoming players and you have give them enough chance and make them feel secured in the Indian side. No doubt, they would have failures alongwith success but the final outcome would be very fruitful to our country.

    Virendra Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir and M S Dhoni should form the senior string of future.

  • Sri1967 on August 3, 2011, 17:40 GMT

    Saurav is spot on. Forget the past and move on. Harbajan should go back to domestic games to get his form back to play test cricket. Let's see how these guys play at Champions League. Here there's no money so no honey. T20 more money more honey, more energy mate....

  • on August 3, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    YEAH ganguly was right.They knew Sehwag was injured,we must have another opener.tats the only way and we cant makeover with one down.Dravid is our team's wall.he cant be a opener. well the series is not lost,give them a horrible defeat

  • banglafan on August 3, 2011, 17:12 GMT

    C.Dila, you got it spot on. Just forget about test cricket, fellows, get ready for the cricket that really matters to the purse - champions league, ipl etc etc.

  • on August 3, 2011, 17:03 GMT

    Firstly perfect hypothesis by Ganguly.Secondly I like Natarajan Padmaraj's post.The respect with which he has mentioned the players is great.And dada ji :) (wonderful)..

  • nickydude on August 3, 2011, 17:03 GMT

    Lol.... MSD's downfall has started by the no of silly excuses he is giving. When Eng was 124-8, how many times was Broad allowed to get strike with a single of the last ball, was that also due to less practice & recovery ? Cmon, MSD grow up now...

  • bluebillion on August 3, 2011, 16:23 GMT

    I cant understand why everyone is intent on crucifying the Indian batsmen? Yes they havent exactly been at their best - but what about England's batsmen? Their performance (or the lack of it) hasnt been noticed because of what their lower order and bowlers have done. Here are some stats - Englad top 7 batsmen in the first innings of both test matches have cumulatively scored 521 runs compared to 505 by India's top 7. England's 521 contains a double by KP. England have batted against what has for the large part been a 3 man attack supposedly very inferior to England's! This shows that the pitches have been tough up front. In the 2nd innings of both matches, Eng top7 have scored 356 compared to 310 by India's top 7. 46 runs more. Thats it. Infact, in Trent bridge across both innings, Eng top 7 scored 277 compared to 344 by India's top 7. What this throws up is Eng bowlers have been much more efficient in polishing the tail or the England tail has wagged much more than India.

  • majid7 on August 3, 2011, 16:23 GMT

    even now, 4-0 is not inevitable...

  • khiladisher on August 3, 2011, 16:22 GMT

    The harm that ipl has caused to cricket is very damaging-and if the ipl tamasha is not stopped,banned or cancelled test match cricket will fade away-Can the likes of yuvraj,raina ,kohli,rohit,tiwary and pujara ever replace the golden generation and the legends of batting -sehwg-sachin-dravid-ganguly and laxman. Test match cricket is at the pinnacle of cricket where skills are matched and tested over a intense and tough 5 day period-these are where champion cricket players are born. Indian cricket is for sure going into a steep decline as soon as the champion players like sehwag-sachin-dravid-laxman and zaheer retire-it is too much to expect gambhir alone to shoulder the burden in the future.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on August 3, 2011, 15:44 GMT

    Dear Dada, first of all I miss you and Kumble very badly. Cricket has never been the same for me. Next, I've been religiously watching and listening to your comments on Star Cricket. Dada, you tell me, how does it make any sense that Dravid moves one position up and Sachin stays where he is and VVS, who is not a very good front foot player, has to jump over Sachin and come in at no.3 in swinging conditions where the ball is going to be pitched up and made to swing by a mile? Dada, can you please go into the dressing room and ask that 'elephant' (whom you and Dravid succeeded to some extent in moving from that opening slot in ODIs) to play for the team instead of for his records? Please tell him that he made enough records and that there aren't too many to be made. This huge fan of you, Kumble and Dravid will be very grateful to you. Hope you are not angry at your friend Dravid anymore for the hardships you had to go through in 2004-2006. I love you both Dada. Greg was the real culprit.

  • Gkr_Sabka_Yaar on August 3, 2011, 15:06 GMT

    If fatigue is the issue as highlighted by Captain Cool then i believe its high time BCCI should make 3 team playing 3 different formats of game...at least there should be a selected pool for test side. you have 3 middle order batsmen who play test matches only ..you should add to that one Opener and one fast bowler also ..who just concentrate on playing test matches and prepare in advance for upcoming test series, especially in Australia, South Africa, New Zealand and England.

  • Gkr_Sabka_Yaar on August 3, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    too much of cricket has little to do with the losses we have suffered...its more to do with the team India's approach to the series..in west indies they play casual cricket..No.1 team beating No.7 (minus Gayle, Roach, etc)..1-0 ..they should have thrashed them 3-0 instead! In this series, on the first day at Lord's one can see team India's body language..they were not looking like top team...no one was encouraging bowlers, and others (watched highlights of last tour..dinesh kartik and others were always there encouraging bowlers and fielders!)..Our batting..I fail to understand what was the reason to disturb our 3-4-5, especially in these conditions...either raina or dhoni should have been sacrificed rather than Dravid..that disturbed the whole line up!! My advise to Indian fans...do set your hope high just because sehwag is back in team..he will need a lot of luck to do well here without enough match practice...and no guarantee he will be match fit for 2 tests...

  • on August 3, 2011, 14:34 GMT

    very realistic comments Sorve

  • nair_ottappalam on August 3, 2011, 14:33 GMT

    Ganguly has talked sensibly here. India need to concentrate on ground reality rather than play the blame game. If you are going on an important tour and you dont have a reserve opener, it's absolutely spineless selection. What is Dhoni doing in the team? He is more keen on bowling overs rather than keeping wckets and scoring runs. Guys concentrate on your game if you want to win. Or else England will walk away with Numero Uno status.

  • Truemans_Ghost on August 3, 2011, 14:12 GMT

    Was Ganguly such a poor player of short stuff? I obviously didn't see him play as much as some of you, but i remember him coming over for his first series (in 1996 I think) and getting a load of runs (and quite a few wickets too). Granted this was against one of the more innocuous English attacks. I always rather liked him and this was a good piece. You are retired a long time and I can't understand how people with such talent (of any nation and in any sport) can not look after themselves for the few years that they are in their prime. They owe it to themselves as much as the fans. In 20 years time you don't want to be reading in your cricinfo profile "never made good his talent due the a lack of physical fitness"

  • spinkingKK on August 3, 2011, 13:59 GMT

    I am not a big fan of Ganguly's reasonings. He keeps thinking that Laxman is not suited to No.3. I beleive that is a spot tailor-made for him and if Ganguly kept Laxman in that spot during his time, Laxman would have scored over 35 centuries by now. Instead, Ganguly used to come before Laxman most of the time. There is nothing wrong with Laxman's technique. It's all in Ganguly's mind. Also, Ganguly can not compare India's tail with that of England's. England don't have a tail. They have packed their team with all-rounders. If India replaced their bowlers with Irfan Pathan, Yusuf Pathan, Agarkar and Sanjay Bangar, India will have a better tail. Only thing is, unlike their Indian counterparts, England batsmen are expected to feel more comfortable. Eventhough I listed those bowlers to make another point clear, I think if India played with those bowlers, it would have been very tough to beat India. Because, all of those players were good bowlers as well.

  • StatisticsRocks on August 3, 2011, 13:52 GMT

    For all those who claim Indian players cannot play on fast bouncy swinging conditions and all the pitches in India are dead, every country has the right to make pitches to suit their strength, so stop whining abt it. Can you imagine pithces in England being flat and spinning, no way. Like some young Indian players not able to play short balls, many of ENG,SA,AUS,NZ palyers cannot play spin. ENG will never win a series iin the sub-continent let alone in India. However India has won a series in similar swinging conditions in England (who then had much better bowling attack) , drew a series in hard and bouncy tracks of SA. We all know what hapenned when IND was in AUS (2007-2008) either they would have won the series or drawn the series but for bad umpiring and finally ended up losing 2-1 with 1 drawn. Is this English team better than IND, absolutely. They have been playing great cricket with qualuity fast bowling agd great batting depth.

  • Raj12345 on August 3, 2011, 13:45 GMT

    More comedy is happening now. Even after 2 tests defeat, they called Virat Kohli who don't know how to play test cricket. Looks worst phase Indian cricket started. Yuvi, Raina, Kohli- never be test player at any stage. They simply hang around to be listed in A category.

  • Yorkie77 on August 3, 2011, 13:27 GMT

    Just spoken to Wasim Jaffer, he has not had a call yet! He will be there to watch though. Wasted opportunity all round unfortunately.....

  • on August 3, 2011, 13:00 GMT

    too much cricket is a bad excuse. if dhoni is tired he can opt out as sachin did for carribean series. glad saurav named wasimm jaffer. wonder why this lad who religiously plays 4-day cricket is not in india's test squad. he should have been chosen ahead of mukund when viru was injured. Agree u blood a youngster but merit stands first.

  • on August 3, 2011, 12:52 GMT

    Dada you also a IPL Slave and you cannot point your fingers at Team India which is totally a pathetic team. Team India is completely unfit to play test cricket. IPL has taken betting to highest level. IPL is not a Cricketing event it is a worst commerical event. Team India and BCCI is completely focussed on IPL. Because of IPL, Team India is losing skill, inspiration, motivation and fitness to play Test Cricket. These curators, coaches and BCCI officials are working for IPL growth rather than Cricket growth. Until IPL is thrashed, Team India is not going to perform well in other tournaments. IPL is completely meaningless and obsolete Tournament. Test, ODI & T20 Cricket is great to watch between Countries unlike IPL Teams which look like clubs. Test Cricket is ultimate to watch on sportive pitches. But IPL is making these pitches Lifeless.

  • on August 3, 2011, 12:43 GMT

    Dada is absolutely right. Jaffer after being dropped from the Indian side has scored heavily in Ranji's in addition to captaining his side to back to back victories. He should be definitely the third (back up) opener & even he can be used to play at No.6 ahead of Raina & Yuvraj. He has scored two double centuries for India & is currently in good form as well. He could have been sent as Yuvi's replacement instead they are sending inexperienced Kohli. Come on selectors be fair & honest in making selections. This is not your own franchise. This is a team representing India & you people should reflect this.

  • terry_2k6 on August 3, 2011, 12:32 GMT

    Come back and fill the Number 6 Spot; you'll do better than the current!! And the Captaincy; we would see much more attacking/aggressive cricket from India then. I've found since the beginning of Dhoni's appointment as Captain, he has always been a defensive Captain; too quick to put the field back; using bowlers in a holding role only. India haven't reached number 1 on the back of Dhoni as everybody tries to claim; it's the teams and captains previous to Dhoni that have lead India to Number 1; although not sure for how much longer... Dhoni doesn't have the passion to play for India; he would much rather be playing IPL etc, which has been demonstrated before previous to a tour to Sri Lanka where he wouldn't leave the IPL early to prepare for the tour. Time for a New Captain; but who??

  • on August 3, 2011, 12:27 GMT

    Well said Sourav, I only hope that Sachin, Laxman and Dravid become proactive and teach the likes of Raina, Yuvraj and Mukund how to play a patience game in Test cricket which is a test of character and technique. While I agree the juniors make think they know it all but being proactive will be an additional service, by them, for Indias benefit

  • monis11 on August 3, 2011, 12:18 GMT

    They lost the matches for poor batting efforts. 3 bowlers only for test cricket. Another one injured + Bhajji out of form. But bowlers had done decent enough, if batters shown the grit it would not have bee two losses. Who is picking the eleven? Injured & out of form players? Dhoni out of form. Short ball, Hard to learn how to pull shot or to defend or to leave it. Remove your helmet, you will learn naturally. Gavasker never had a helmet, he played always against the new ball against the fastest bowlers. Afraid? take a tennis ball, ask a school boy to bounce it your face from length, but no helmet

  • __ram on August 3, 2011, 12:18 GMT

    Why blame IPL? The only person whose technique was spoilt by IPL was Murali Vijay's.

  • pratit on August 3, 2011, 12:10 GMT

    so,according to dhoni,playing in the ipl for 2 months with incessant air-travel and the scorching heat and humidity of india barely a week after the world cup is not tiring but playing test cricket in the cool english weather is tiresome.stop playing test cricket then.no indian who understands cricket will miss dhoni.india played spineless cricket.forget india,i would be disappointed even if bangladesh surrendered the way the indians did in the second test.the intensity just was not there and there may be more fundamental problems than is apparent at the moment.if players fail to motivate themselves for such an important and eagerly anticipated series,then i am afraid,their motivation for playing cricket is not cricket itself

  • bobbo2 on August 3, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    These comments about the IPL are crazy. India is being beaten hollow by a far better team at Test cricket. Who cares about T20? Test cricket is real cricket and it would be nice to see India prepare properly and take it seriously. I care so little for the IPL I don't even know what team won this year.

  • Night-Watchman on August 3, 2011, 12:02 GMT

    English team has had a lot of time to prepare for this series. After the World Cup, they had a months break after which they faced up Srilanka in May-Jun. That is adequate resting period for players to recharge. They were match ready and primed in the conditions to face the Indians. Indians - Dhoni, Harbhajan, Raina, Ishant, Munaf are all coming after a continuous period of cricket beginning with Australia in India ODI in Oct 2010, NZ in India ODI, thru South Africa away series, then back to ICC world cup and IPL followed by the Windies tour. Hectic is right. Dhoni is right to suggest that Indian cricketers are used as cash cows by countries for a good series. Indian cricket sells everywhere, so cricketers are in demand.

  • garethmills989 on August 3, 2011, 11:57 GMT

    i agree with padmaraj ji..dada sir is right..hope the bible sir helps us to win next match..sri lanka at least got closer than us to winning..bad tim for indian cricket but we never give up:):)!!jai hind!!

  • on August 3, 2011, 11:57 GMT

    India's No. 1 ranking is now in jeopardy after two thumping defeats to England, who now only need to draw the remaining Tests to take the top spot. Ganguly urged the Indian players to move on from the demoralising two weeks.

    "You have to put it behind ... You are 28, 29, 30, you won't get to play for India all your life. Make the most when you get it, once it goes, you won't get it back, even how much you want it."

  • Marcio on August 3, 2011, 11:56 GMT

    Yes,I remember watching in frustration at the way Raina ducked into short balls in the WC 1/4 final against AUS. The IND curators had stripped all grass and moisture from the pitch, and it was blowing up dust in the 3rd over of the game. Raina was able to play a math winning innings against Lee, Tait, Johnson and Co , because the ball just died on the pitch and Raina was able to close his eyes and flop the ball away. On a normal pitch he would have lost his head, quite literally. I knew he and the other Indian batsmen would perish once conditions were made fair for both teams. When noting India's recent successes we have to acknowledge the way they have been able to manipulate conditions by playing about 75% of games at home for the last 2 years before this current tour of ENG and WI. Good to see justice being served here where IND cannot control everything for once.

  • Baundele on August 3, 2011, 11:51 GMT

    The cricketers are not at fault. The BCCI compels them to play too much t20.

  • rohith10689 on August 3, 2011, 11:51 GMT

    man....really donno why MSD is making lame excuses for the defeat....BCCI dint say anything when he left out of the ODI series against the West Indies....and no one is forcing him to play when he is feeling tired....he doesnt take any backup openers or any keepers with him and he just puts lame excuses for the teams defeat...Dhoni ji....its time for u to take some advices

  • getsetgopk on August 3, 2011, 11:48 GMT

    All these one eyed Indian comentators instead of giving due credit to the English bowlers are still looking for excuses here and there. Ganguly of all people should know better how hard it is to play short ball when he got a rising ball from shoaib Akhtar crashed into his ribs and fell to the ground like a pile of rubble.

  • on August 3, 2011, 11:36 GMT

    What rubbish if U always search for excuses after U lose then U can't be a cricketer whatever U have achieved or who U are. That's the Childish comment from Dhoni. Also India were never really wining the matches in the absence of Shehwag and Zaheer. They are not quality side like Aussies were but they only depend on above players in 1st innings and Laxman on Fourth innings...............

  • satya99 on August 3, 2011, 11:36 GMT

    I believe that our team will benefit if the Indian cricket establishment listens to Ganguly.It's true that Ganguly himself struggled against the short ball . But the difference between him and the likes of Raina or Yuvraj is that he found a way around this problem to survive and score runs . Although not great his overseas record in Australia (Avg-35, 100s-1,50s-4) , South Africa (Avg 36, 50s-4), Eng(Avg-65, 100s-3, 50s-5) and WI (Avg 40, 50s-2) suggests that he wasn't exactly a novice when it came to batting on bouncy pitches or in conditions that assist swing bowling .This and the fact that he built the core of the test team that Dhoni inherited surely gives him the right to speak his mind . At the end of the day he's passionate about Indian cricket and as a captain he never allowed opponents to bully his team unlike what we see now .

  • pudukkudikaryansujith on August 3, 2011, 11:15 GMT

    What Dada said is true. The should not be complaining about too much of cricket. THEIR COMMITMENT TO NATIONAL DUTY should be above THAT OF IPL. Very lately the commitment from the Cricketers have come down. With commitment comes dedication and with dedication comes the WIN.

  • qaiserjaan on August 3, 2011, 11:09 GMT

    This england series will be a good preparation of CLT 20. So cuuuumm on India....cummm on Dhoni,, Raina. Zaheer, Bhaji, Sachin, CLT 20 is waiting 4 u.

  • RednWhiteArmy on August 3, 2011, 11:05 GMT

    Welcome india to The New World Order....Give me number 1 in test cricket not that mickey mouse IPL and its low standard of cricket with teams no one cares about

  • Sobat on August 3, 2011, 10:56 GMT

    Ganguly was so right but I think the main reason was India been too relaxed. they start to feel they are the best now days but they forgot results come only after hard work not the past.

  • on August 3, 2011, 10:50 GMT

    It's high time we start looking at some youngsters like Rohith Sharma, Virat Kohli etc. Abhinav Mukund, Murali Vijay can only score runs on flat indian pitches. Raina and Yuvraj will throw away their wicket if regular bouncers r bowled. We need a strong middle order. It's not the bowling that has caused us this defeat. It's our top order batting failure.

  • on August 3, 2011, 10:31 GMT

    Nothing is impossible. England can be, and will be beaten in England in the next 2 tests. India has done it before. England can not & will not take the No 1 crown from India until Sehwag, Zaheer & Gambhir are alive(in the next two tests, that is)!

  • on August 3, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    I totally agree with Saurav's comments. The way some of our batsmen like Yuvaraj, Raina or Mukund played against the short pitched deliveries of medium pacers, or the way the lower order batted were simply pathetic. The problem is not with India losing the matches. England is a good test side and India can lose in a match or two, especially in their home conditions. But the problem lies in the manner in which they lost, they did not look like even an international side, let alone the number one ranked test side. I don't think a Sehwag or a Zaheer will make any difference, unless the rest make a huge turnaround. Especially Dhoni has to resurrect the lower order batting. Harbhajan getting injured may be a boon in disguise. Laxman and Sachin have to take much more responsibility. Only Dravid fighting a lone battle now.

  • Asbah on August 3, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    One very valid point raised by Sourav.. Why Mukund over Jaffer?? Jaffer is the third best opener we have and still Vijay and Mukund (read Tamil Players) are picked before him.

  • cricket_ftw on August 3, 2011, 10:26 GMT

    Indians need to be aggressive .. no use playing like ducks becoming pray esily to some average bowlers... Be aggressive and dont think of the result ...

  • PeddaBokka on August 3, 2011, 10:23 GMT

    Agreed with the Dada completely on MSD reasons, but dada himself found bouncers very difficult he must remeber that.And in early summer season there is no other series result than 4-0 unless rain.it seems now also it is achievable 4-0.(even with Sehwag,gambhir,zaheer inclusion)

  • Rivka on August 3, 2011, 10:10 GMT

    If you look at how many times India had the upper hand in the last test, and let it slip, then you will realize that they weren't exactly outplayed by England. It is India who threw it away. England aren't as good as Australia were in their heyday, whatever their media and former players may think. England are a beatable side, and if India go into the next match realizing that if you they play better, they should be able to win.

  • Yabba on August 3, 2011, 9:54 GMT

    The problem with subcontinental cricket is that they prepare flat dead pitches for Test Matches so you end up with 500 playing 500. To be considered the best in the world, you need to be playing on all types of wicket to prepare you for anything. It is only this year that England has woken up and prepared proper pitches rather than flat decks too. Cricket should be a contest between bat and ball rather than "let's watch our superstar batsmen score centuries ad nauseum"....

  • doosra95 on August 3, 2011, 9:45 GMT

    ECB bent back word to accommodate Indians playing late in summer still getting decked by a seam up regular English trundler what a shame. To quote from Gavskars phrase book " university of batting" that's what India have in their so called much vaunted batting line up,may be in FLAT DOCILE TRACK back in India.

  • rahulcricindia on August 3, 2011, 9:44 GMT

    i have read so many comments in which people talk about removing the big 3 and especially rahul and laxman...in want to ask them one thing that ganguly retired from test in 2007 and that too he was not as effective player in test as these 3 are and still we are not able to find the replacement for that... that slot is still potentially vacant so how the hell can we replace these three ...it is gonna be pandemonium in the team...so let these guys groom the youngsters to play tests and then let them retire in 2years time.....

  • panchakoti on August 3, 2011, 9:30 GMT

    I fully agree with our ex-national captain. This is probably the most shameful event our national team has ever faced in all of its test history. we seem to have lost our DIGNITY. or did we have any in the first place? Our national side seems to have reached saturation point. and this constant cries of zaheer's injuries has now become overly stale. when is it we have not heard about this??? it has been happening all the time. we have to face up to it...why don't we turn zaheer into a bowling coach? at-least this would save the injuries. we lost the first test by 196 runs & the 2nd was by 319, this is almost 500 runs plus. where are we heading??? our cricketing stars are the richest sports people on earth; & so is the BCCI. is this the ROOT CAUSE OF ALL OUR PROBLEMS???

  • ms.arjun on August 3, 2011, 9:23 GMT

    To all those guys who are critize Dhoni and others for playing IPL and Champions league, they all played IPL and Champions league over the last 3 years and still got to No.1 test spot and WC victory. So get over it. England have been absolutely terrific over the last year, so they deserve to beat the No.1 team. There is nothing much the Indian players could do. England has 10 players in their prime form. They were meant to win the last 2 tests.But the series aint over yet. Cricket is just a sport, anything can happen.

  • on August 3, 2011, 9:15 GMT

    England make it easily 4-0 now. India don`t deserve number 1. they playing like a school team against England! SL played well agains England than number 1 team India! What a shame, Dhoni and guys should prepare for Champions league T20 now.LOL

  • on August 3, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    I read all most 60% comment saying Indian team is not No.1 and the players are not doing good and the reasons they give are not acceptable bla bla...but let me give you some stats for Team India....we all most scrambled England team twice in two test match but their good luck they are able to score 100 odd runs....this happen with India when harbhajan and Zaheer scores run against other teams. I play cricket for more then 5 years as professional player it is very hard to get on game with long vacation....here it happen with team as well...Sachin,gambhir,dhoni,yuvraj,zaheer all are coming back from injury or rest. we can say that they are not better prepared for this series like DADA says..but that is a job of BCCI & Support staff to make them fit for the series. I would like to see what is support staff doing right now...else this are the same player who wins matches & tournament for you. Just wish a good luck to them.....Go India Go

  • ms_cricketer on August 3, 2011, 8:54 GMT

    everyone is saying india is not deserving of number one, but srsly think how have england faired away from home? ok india haven't won a series in australia england won one. England didnt win in south africa, they battled for two slow dying draws to not lose the series. being neutral i don't believe england or india is the best. England is very good at home, thats it. This england team is built for home. India is built for the subcontinent. Get this into your brains people. Even australia's team of sheer class in the early 2000s, called the subcontinent the final frontier. England have won like 2 match in the last 20 years in india, while india have faired better in england. Gimme me break, south africa is better they do well in subcontinent and away.

  • Morpheus273 on August 3, 2011, 8:39 GMT

    It pains a lot to say this but begin a hardcore fan of CRICKET, I must admit that Indians can't be the top team for a longer duration. I am not referring to the current state where END only needs to draw the next 2 tests to become #1, but I am referring to it in a long term. It seems they have forgotten everything they achieved under Kirsten. Kirsten would surely had given them an earful and would have blasted them left right and centre. These do not take any pride in being at the top like Aussies did. It looked like they did not value thier status and had a feeling of being invinsible. What pisses me off is the careless attitude shown by SEHWAG & GAMBHIIR. These two creeps were fully fit to play the IPL and when their resp teams were all but out had they realized that they had a niggle developed during the WC. These idiots had close to 4 months (IPL and WI tour) to get the niggles fixed before the ENG tour, but they were OK with India loosing the test matches instead of the IPL loss.

  • VivGilchrist on August 3, 2011, 8:33 GMT

    As much as I hate England, I am loving this series. Senior Indian players choosing to play IPL and then "resting" from Windies tour. The feeble calling of a draw in Domenica instead of trying to go for victory, and now this. All I can say is that the Indian players and management have no-one to blame but themselves. The true Indian fans have been cheated by them. Shame BCCI, Shame.

  • othello22 on August 3, 2011, 8:30 GMT

    I have to ask... Why do so many consider Dhoni to be a great captain? He has breezed into the position with names such as Tendulkar, Sehwag, Dravid, Laxman, Zaheer, Ghambir, Harbhajan at his disposal and won a few tests. Whoopteedoo. What has he done to qualify as a great captain? His batting is terrible against quality bowling, a flat track bully if ever I've seen one. His keeping is average. Watching his puzzling field placements against the Poms, I cannot fathom how this guy is so highly regarded as a captain. The same people, I believe, denounce Ricky Ponting as being just a lucky dude whose captaincy has no merits, he was just gifted with a champion team and played no role in Australia's success. Even though his champion team all retired four years ago and he's been leading a team of misfits ever since, he still got no credit when Australia won and was lambasted whenever they lost. All the while Dhoni is showered with accolades for being this legendary captain. Go figure.

  • on August 3, 2011, 8:22 GMT

    This isn't india, its a very depleted team they have, no gambhir, no sehwag and no zaheer , the batting replacements are much much much worse and sreesanth is a lot worse then zaheer, he's also not left armed so he doesnt give the variety. England have a full strength team. Also The england team has been selected to have a lot of batting depth, the indian one hasnt. Prior is far outperforming dhoni with the bat by a huge margin and this is a turning factor. Indian batsman (dravid aside) are not building on starts, 60-70 is NOT ENOUGH in test cricket against england who bat down till 10. Its High time Mukund, raina and yuvraj were shown the door. There is no excuse for raina and yuvraj, they are very experienced and should know better then to throw their wicket in crucial tests. Praveen and dravid have been the ONLY positives for india who have been awefull

  • srk_cric on August 3, 2011, 8:00 GMT

    All these days they hailed him as Demi-God and two losses he is thrown to bin. Dhoni is far better a captain, India had so far. Winning and losing is part of the game and one can't be winning always. Team needs encouragement and not criticism, its always easy to advice and give suggestions.

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    the main reason why india did well in SA was the vision of a certain person--GAry Kirsten.As usual cricket ignorant BCCI had arranged for the Indian team to land in SA a week before the first test.But GK insisted on the tour party leaving the country 2 weeks prior to that and ensured net sessions through out.Despite this Ind lost the first test miserably and won the second test by a huge margin and 3rd match was a classic.This was the sort of competition expected in this series...well what can we say about Ind performance here...a lot is being said and written so i think i would better keep quiet.. to be honest i dont see Viru and zaheer making a huge difference because they are making come backs after injury lay offs(provided they do play)but as i have stated here before, it wil give the "Great Wall" a chance to bat at No:3..his batting is the only thing that has clicked for India

  • SPC1 on August 3, 2011, 7:53 GMT

    Ganguly has not critised anyone and just given his opinion and urged the team to move on from here. The Indian team should fight back from here in competitive spirit, as the team used to do Ganguly's times of captaincy, even after losing a test match. India used to always bounce back. His comments are very positive. Dhoni whose record is impeccable as a captain has this habit of blaming it on too much cricket all the time, even when India is winning. Also as Ganguly has said , when one is young aged 28, 29 or 30, he should make the best of the opportunities which he has got to represent the country, which only 11 men get amongst so many aspirants. For the 1st time in his career Dhoni is in backfoot, with the Indian team being trounced in 2 consecutive tests. Let us see how he responds as a leader when the going is not easy for him. His own wicketkeeping and batting forms are matters of concern. Let us hope, Mahi comes back all guns blazing in the 3rd test match.

  • Karthi_2K11 on August 3, 2011, 7:51 GMT

    With this defeat, India have almost relinquished their title as No. 1 Test squad in the world. It is time to give chances to those knocking on the doors (Rudra Pratap (R. P.) Singh - MoM of the 2008 Perth Test match, Sudeep Tyagi, Deepak Chahar, R. Ashwin, and S. Badrinath), and let these people help India put up a fight, instead of meekly surrendering to their opposition. Please do not bring up the age factor, or some other ridiculous reason for keeping these people out....please let us just give them a chance. Ganguly is right about this team but he needs to also include the Chairman of Selectors Srikkanth in his critical remarks, as he gets the plaudits when India wins, and should also, surely, take the brickbats when India loses, like it is doing now. Where is the planning when freshmen Ishant, and Sreesanth have to bear the entire burden of the pace bowlig unit in the absence of Zak ? Surely, trial by fire was not on the selectors's minds when it came to blooding these people in ?

  • tappee74 on August 3, 2011, 7:48 GMT

    Ganguly has spoken smartly. When professionals make excuses they sound disgusting and elementary. India was beaten by a SUPERIOR team .The English should be applauded for their success,their comittments were admirable.It matters not about Ganguly as a batsman, or what he did as a player,he is now a commentator and an advocate to the situation. Test cricket is the highest format of the game and given an opportunity means you must prove to the world that you are a professional, even when you fall, break that fall with grace. You will still be admired as a hero,a symbol of reality.Rahul Dravid and WI test batsman Shivnarine Chanderpaul are two players who have shown tremendous concentration in modern day cricket.I am not taking away anything from Sachin,he the greatest has shown his intent,but he is also suffering from lack of application which inadvertently suffers the team. All credit to England.

  • littlesweetie on August 3, 2011, 7:47 GMT

    Cheers from England crowds not helpful for staying in no1 ranking Mr. Cool., the team selectors want to kept another opener who played in England the Defensible Wasim Jaffer instead of Mukund., what is Dhoni doing with his batting no hundreds in recent tours and out of form shows in first innings of second test just goes for expensive drive and cought out when India desperately need him to stay with Dravid in batting., We need India to stay no 1 in ranking.,

  • Alexk400 on August 3, 2011, 7:46 GMT

    I am no dhoni fan but he is greatest indian captain ever even if india goes down 4-0 . It was not his fault. A captain is as good as his team. He lacked tools And selectors did not provide proper players for opening to fill sehwag and gambhir slot. Only mistake dhoni did is going with spinner in overseas tour. I want to see 4 fast bowlers and india attack from word go. if not 4-0 loss won't surpise anyone. ganguly was aggressive captain but he ran it his own way. Only thing if i want to blame dhoni is he went with formula that worked before , he did n't want risk and get blamed for. if he changes team and lose everyone blame him squarely. Now he exposed all weak links in the indian team by not doing anything. if there is one reason that is blocking the team unity is hype around sachin century. That is da main reason indian team is not feeling ready for a fight.

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:42 GMT

    I am not a fan of Akash Chopra just like that. I dont know about him now. But when he was at his prime he was the Opener with best defense technique in India like Sunil Gavaskar. But who cares that in India. They want flashers dashers blasters from top to bottom. I wished that Ganguly had persisted with him for some more time

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:42 GMT

    I agree with 'Dada'. The Indians have shown no application especially with star studded 'GRANPAs' in the Team. The job of the Indian Captain is very simple as he need not instruct all his wards. Only a handful has to be managed like Raina, Abhinav, Yuvi, Ishant, Prav, Sree etc. The Seniors should have instilled confidence in these players. Even, the so called GRANPA's of cricket, baring Dravid, have dealt with immaturedly. Dhoni's Cricket-honeymoon is over and he wont be able to re-create his midas touch.

  • ashekahmed on August 3, 2011, 7:41 GMT

    SO FINALLY IT IS PROVED THAT INDIAN TEAM SHOULD NOT BE RANKED WITHIN BEST 5 TEST TEAMS AS THEY DONT DESERVE IT.WINNING OVER TEST SERIES IN THE HOME GROUND AND WINNING OVER BANGLADESH,WEST INDIES AND NEW ZEALAND IN THE AWAY SERIES WONT PROVE THEIR WORTH.THEY ARE NOT AT ALL A BALANCED TEAM YET......

  • Alexk400 on August 3, 2011, 7:39 GMT

    I am tiired of hearing Rahul dravid out to perfect ball . Unplayable delivery blah blah. You know what opposition trying to do. Counter it. Don't panick. Indian players panicked without sehwag throwing his bat. Everything else domino effect.

  • C.Dila on August 3, 2011, 7:36 GMT

    dhoni don't be worry about test cricket start preparations for champions leag t20.

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:36 GMT

    i agree dada's words.....wateva he said it is for the welfare of the team.....laxman sir shud come to crease in 5 or six......there is no clean and clean batting line like during dada's period....our captain dhoni sir should have the responsibity while batting......the selection board should bring jaffer in the test squad or think about badrinath or dinesh kartik......dada ji is the true indian cricketer who fought hard for our country......dhoni ji should think about it......all the best for the upcoming flicks......hope bible of cricket will entertain indian fans in the 3rd test(sachin tendulkar) with nawab of najafgarh ..........all the beat to team india :):) jai hind !!!!!!!!!!!

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:36 GMT

    English team is very strong and remember playing in their home ground. You cannot beat them. Again it is too much cricket for Indian players, which will dilute the quality. BCCI has chosen a wrong time to play against after Windies tour. Bad time for Indian cricket!

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:22 GMT

    Even ganguly wasn't very sound against the short ball. Well when you have such flat wickets with no great deal of pace and bounce at home then you can't expect much of performances by the youngsters against the short balls. Short balls have been a problem for all the subcontinent batsmen including Pakistan due to the quality and nature of the pitches prepared in this region.

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:19 GMT

    EnglisH played well...India depended on Luck and played horribly :D

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:18 GMT

    If you tired you have inform to BCCI i cant play back to back series. . .This is silly reason MSD. . .if u won this match. . .you wont talk about this anymore you need a reason for the lost. . .accept the lost. . .its ur mistake. . .u'll play IPL without failing. .but u cant play for ur country. . .this is shameful MSD. . .accept the team performance is not well. . .try to come back. . .but dont tell us by telling silly reasons. .

  • FionaM on August 3, 2011, 7:18 GMT

    I am referring to Ganguly's outburst against youngsters', who have not cemented their place in the team, inability to deal with the short ball. Ganguly should go back and look at the videos of his innings' he played even after cementing his place.

    Regarding, not having a 3 opener and Dravid opening the innings etc etc….even when there are regular openers Dravid actually came to bat before the 5 over, not once but several times. Therefore, the selectors thought instead of having an opener for the sake of having one it was better if Dravid opened, which proved right. The same thing happened in the WI and no one said anything because India didn't lose. So far nothing has gone wrong with this strategy. Same goes for Laxman. We all know how great a player is Laxman...capable of playing anywhere.

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:17 GMT

    Dhoni says lack of time for preparation, you are right captian but, why don't you stand up and say we are playing too much cricket. On the other had, why don't you guys stop playing for clubs ( IPL) If you are a true indian, stop playing IPL and try to do something for India cricket as our former players done. Harbajan, noone gives him rest and he himself doesn't need rest why ? its very clear that, if he just stay out one game, other spinners will take over his position.Guys don't think he is so much commited and playing all the games while other resting.. what a situation. I feel so pitty towards Raina and Yuvi poor guys need some bullet proof dress to save their body, pads and glows are not enough. Being a Ture indian and tru cricket fan i must say, this indian team and BCCI spoiling indian cricket especially test crickt, the classic form of cicket....Please guys say No to T/20 and IPL

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:16 GMT

    Indian Seniors Sachin, Gautham, Zaheer, Yuvraaj were rested for WI tour. Harbhajan, Vijay, Dhoni were serial non performers in Windies. The old warhorses Dravid and Laxman saved India against a mediocre Windies. Ironically in England its only Dravid, Laxman and to an extent Yuvraaj have performed. They have not complained about EXCESSIVE CRICKET. What a fine reasonable excuse for a pathetic performance.

  • rahulkj21 on August 3, 2011, 7:12 GMT

    Dont Worry Mr.Ganguly, we are gonna fight back and screw Some Big time opponents.. this series will be 2-2 .. we are the Champions and we will remain.. coz its our time of Domination.

  • on August 3, 2011, 7:08 GMT

    Sorry Sourav, but u missed a point about Dhoni's ability to be anywhere in batting 11.I would like if someone gives here Dhoni's overseas test record and no. of times he was caught behind. He at no. 7 is a complete waste. His incompetence against swinging bowling is a bad sight to watch. And because of his performance only, he cannot raise question against others. India surely lacked killer punch in the last test and that responsibility lies with the captain.

  • Aussie_rulez on August 3, 2011, 7:08 GMT

    I agree that India has played the last 2 tests with a languid and lazy attitude.... Come on India !! This is NOT Bangladesh or Sri Lanka.... I am hoping to see a ruthless and a killing demeanor in the next two matches...the same attitude displayed in the 2008 CB series in Australia, where India thrashed the Aussies(then World No.1) and took the series 2-0 !!!

  • Juniorklassy on August 3, 2011, 7:03 GMT

    I completely disagree with what ganguly is saying.. he himself used to complaint lots of times about hectic schedule!! then how can he blame the Current Indian side ? i know We (India) are playing poor cricket but there are many reason, such as lack of match practice in England, injuries to key players, form of Key players, remember we had to bowl with 3 bowlers for 02 tests....its not easy.. that's where we lost the test match.. yes the fact is true that we need to play much much better than what we are playing right now, n 1 more thing Ganguly getting angry on players getting out on short balls?? haha doesn't it sounds funny ??? he throughout his career never rectified his own prob of playing short balls, how can he advice them ? n if at all zaheer n gambhir returns. (not sure abt Sehwag), definitely We are gonna put a good fight against England n show the World Why we are NO 01.. :-) Come On Team India......Cheers :-)

  • mjee on August 3, 2011, 6:59 GMT

    I was thinking the same as Pathiravithana. There were a lot of comments around Sri Lanka's performance in England. Remember they were playing early in the season where the ball tends to move around a lot more - what has happened to all those comments now? India dont deserve the #1 spot - the way they crumbled was embarrasing to say the least...great batsmen out of form and terrible bowlers. I can bowl faster than Praveen Kumar in my backyard!

  • on August 3, 2011, 6:57 GMT

    Well Said Daada,

    Dhoni must have to ensure what the teams condition now. He has to become more aggressive in nature. We know that India had a bunch of players waiting for their opportunity

    Ok

    Good luck

  • on August 3, 2011, 6:53 GMT

    mr. shastri was right about the english being jealous of bcci,indian team and ipl, after all it must be very painful for english to see india being beaten black and blue by england gone are the days when england used to be beaten black and blue by india in india, indeed it must be a torture for englismen to endure this horror unfolding they must be dreaming about the glory days of 1993 http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63598.html when they were a force to reckon with how England have fallen, and all this is due to the brilliance of that out of the world ,genius,cracker jack, swashbuckling, nerve wrecking (i'm at loss of adjectives) tournament of champions of the world called ipl, kudos to shasrti for hitting the nail on the head

  • Andy.rockz on August 3, 2011, 6:51 GMT

    there is only very few solutions better to start a seperate test team they can play Ranji Team/county cricket and face them with international exposure let BCCI award the same amount of money who selected and performed at the highest level the IPL will not help anyhow where as the art of the cricket is considered.

  • on August 3, 2011, 6:46 GMT

    The number 1 ranked team? really? can't even face a bouncer bowled by medium pacers. If you guys played on early summer pitches would have lost it 4-0.

  • on August 3, 2011, 6:27 GMT

    Dada is absolutely right ..... Dhoni cannot says playing lot of cricket affect the performance ... playing lot of games in IPL does affect the performance and cause injury ... after world cup IPL was the one event where our most of senior player played in most of matches... India took lightly the test series came without any preparation now getting back for wht they prepared..

  • pradeep_tjp on August 3, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    @GJmelb and MaruthuDelft. You guys are really crazy always pointing at Dravid for loss. I cant understand your term slow batting. Does getting a Hundred at a strike rate of 49.9 and 50 is slow?. Ian Bell and Prior scored freely due to Bad field placing. Sorry guys your comments are just nonsense.

  • YagneshTrivedi on August 3, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    A friend in need is a friend indeed. When the team is down, friends help them to get up. Friends do not kick them. The whole sports set up in India should be blamed if the team fails. It is not the fault of 11 players representing our country. From the president of BCCI to the last person of cricket govering council should take the blame. Let us select cricketers based on merit only and not according to cast, religion or state. Let us provide sports facilities to every school, college, university, state and nation. Let us select players based on current profiency and and not past records. Make universal computer ranking of cricketers according to batting and bowling positions and select the top players for all 11 posions. Make is transparent for every one to see so nobody can be blamed for wrong selection of the team. Even after doing all this, if the team loses, congratulate the opponents for having a better team and having coped and performed better in the place, time and condition.

  • on August 3, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    Absolutely u r right dada

  • raghu2 on August 3, 2011, 6:01 GMT

    It was well known that Ganguly himself was weak against the rising ball. He cannot criticise others.Coming to Dhoni, a captain is as good as his team and cannot expect himi to conjure up a win with kind of attack which is not penetrative. Of course Dhoni has to contribute with the bat which will rub off on the tail enders.

  • on August 3, 2011, 5:54 GMT

    all those making fuss about india's thrashing should realise that tests are nothing when compared to ipl, ipl should be our first,second and every priority everything else is secondary and must be done without undermining the ipl in any way.in fact the ipl is the reason why english are jealous of india, we have the best domestic t-20 league oops.. but even then we have failed to make it to semifinals of last two t-20 championship whats more we even failed to win a single match in the second stage. doesn't matter we are the kings of ipl and are happy about it, let the english be the t-20 champion and test champion we have the wc and even if we do not have we don't have to worry we have the ipl the nursery for future greats of the game like raina,murali vijay,kohli,rohit sharma, ojha,asnodkar,jadeja who will eclipse the achievements of bradman,sobers,richards,hadlee,imran khan,warne, hobbes,lara,lilee etc. why should we worry. come on every body three cheers for ipl

  • on August 3, 2011, 5:51 GMT

    it is not fare to say that the players are tired becasue of back to back cricket, they are professionals and they should know it if that was the case, then do,nt be a part of the team, leave it to others, India has a lot of talent, and also it gives a demoralising excuse to the players rather than to incourage them for the remaining series........ any way best of luck for the remaining series.

  • devendragl on August 3, 2011, 5:50 GMT

    I Have faith on our players,, they are truly world class, no matter whether we remain number one in test or not but they put their full strength in last two test matches the results are anyways no matter for me. There is no doubt that players have played a lot of cricket in last quarters and we have to have take this into consideration.

  • chandau on August 3, 2011, 5:49 GMT

    IPL has ruined Indian cricket. No batters capable of playing long innings, no bowlers capable of long spells and taking wickets. IPL ruins the batting technique of most, especially the young ones and even some oldies. SAnga got out playing T20 shots twice in England. Mahela was out of sorrts most of the Tests. Also there is hardly constant bouncers so they are happy to clear the front leg and hammer merrily. Only a few clasy batsmen adopt to the format and still manage not to lose their shape when batting. Bowlers are more intent on slowing down run rate so when they are asked to attack they dont know what to do and endup bowling right arm all over the wicket. Praveen is taking wickets but at what price? Only Ishant is bowling like a test pacy. India at the moment is playing an XI man gane with 6. So no wonder they are getting hammered.

  • Dropouts on August 3, 2011, 5:49 GMT

    Continued..and I would take this scenario of 4-5 test sides battling for the No.1 Spot rather than an Era of dominance like WI and AUS had. It's just interesting times and can see the test crown going around ENG,SA and AUS in the coming years. India will keep getting good batters in ODI's (yes ODI's only)and PAK keeps producing fast bowlers at will. I strongly believe Yuvraj needs a couple of county stints. Raina can hang on to the IPLs. I don't mention Dhoni because people like Ganguly and Dhoni they managed themselves really well with their limitations. Dhoni n Dada..the fly boeying's without ever being a PILOT-that's what they got- the MIDAS touch? It will be a surprise if the series still results in 2-0.

  • rammohan8303 on August 3, 2011, 5:46 GMT

    DHONI not fit for test captaincy ........nothing he is doing as a captain.

    As a wicket keeper he is ok... batting a BIG failure. Also some wrong decisions. before test he should aware of team members fitness ....

    3rd Test????????????????????? HOPE FOR THE BEST......

  • mohsin9975 on August 3, 2011, 5:42 GMT

    I hav been following the performances of this england team since july 201 0. I hav said dis right after d ashes dat england is d no.1 team.It has all ingredients to become nd remain no.1 for 2-3 yrs.Aggresive nd thinking captain. Good openers,excellent no.3,aggressive fast bowlers wid good backup bowlers, current no.1 spinner nd excellent fielding unit.They win matches wid huge margins nd never shy away frm challenges.There r no legends or freaks der bt compensate by training working hard as a unit.Our indian team has many flaws which surface when we tour abroad. Inconsistent nd unfit fast bowlers,bad fielding nd running b/w wickets, defensive spinner. As a whole, a very weak bowling unit for a no.1 team

  • Dropouts on August 3, 2011, 5:37 GMT

    There were captains who had brilliant teams, better teams and good teams. I see Dhoni exceptionally above all the contemporary captains as he never had a good team to start with.Indian cricket team was never a settled test side and always been a work in progress. I didn't expect him to bat at No.4 and win the world cup for India-So I don't expect Dhoni to be blamed for the 2 consecutive losses. He already knows and accepts his batting is a concern for himself and the team and he accepts doesn't have any tricks left. We all NOW can talk about how things could have been better if India and BCCI had planned better, rested players better,etc. BCCI and the TEAM INDIA have been at their best for the last 2 years which statistically means they are @ No.1 ranking.We always were a bowler short and an allrounder short to be the best test side, I'm a huge fan of India but all Indian fans do know about this aging fact and difference in rankings is narrowed by SA and ENG which are doing really well

  • Thilakh on August 3, 2011, 5:35 GMT

    In simple terms, we lost because 1) England fast bowlers took wickets at fast intervals. Indian fast bowlers take 1 wicket only at each completion of 50 run England batting partnership. 2) England bowlers used bodyline bowling and short length balls to get wickets faster while Indian bowlers did not. 3) England batting tail can hit/bat 200 more runs than India's tail. 4) Indian batsman like Raina, Mukund, Dhoni, Gambir are not in form. Tendulkar and Laxsman still need to hit more runs 5) India's use of 4 bowlers in the test team is proving to a big disadvantage when a bowler gets injured. Remove the no 6 batting slot like Raina and put in an extra medium pacer. India should start looking for a fast bowling all-rounder like Broad, Bresnan, Perara, Angelo Mathews, etc. 6) Harbhajan is struggling in England's bowling conditions. Its time to give Mishra a chance. 7) Drop Mukund and put Gambir to boost batting line-up strength 8) Drop Yuvraj and put Sehwag to boost batting line-up strength

  • abdullahnoor007 on August 3, 2011, 5:29 GMT

    Go India go, two more to go. I see England winning 4-0 and getting the well deserved No. 1 spot. Regarding India, their body language and agression is all turning into ashes against England. More funny is that even a below par Pakistani team played better cricket than India last year. Sri Lanke, also suffering from internal crisis, played lot better than the No. 1 India. Pity.....

  • on August 3, 2011, 5:27 GMT

    India's hour of reckoning is this, if we draw this series then the old and badgered will continue, else new players need to be blooded, all Indian fans must realize that unless people like Yuvi or Raina are given chance to fail , they will never improve, I still remember the series in Australia where Dravid failed in every innings, only for him to come back and score heavily in the next, or what happened when Laxman first came to the scene, when you fail you learn, you then work on that extra weakness of yours, all great batsman have a weakness, Peterson will struggle against quality left arm and leg spin in Indian conditions, but he makes it up by working on that weakness, this is a team in transition , and will loose its small battles, but India must look ahead and think of winning the war in 2 years time.

  • on August 3, 2011, 5:22 GMT

    As an Indian fan I have some horrible fears based on some incidents in the past.In 1993 Eng arrived in India proclaiming they are among the best in the world and their spinners were better than Indian counterparts.after eng was spin washed 3-0 and India discovered Anil Kumble the likes of Ian Salisbury and Phil Tufnel were mocked for these comments by us Indian fans.( we were at school then and i still remember the series).That also was the end of Robin smith who had come to India as one of the best batsmen in the world.I have a horrible feeling history will repeat itself now 18 years later with India at the receiving end...May i be proved wrong!!!!

  • on August 3, 2011, 5:22 GMT

    Why dont anyone talk about the batting failures of MSD??When Dravid failed all wanted Dravid to be dropped, Just imagine is there was not Dravid in this series..........

  • Gudimalla on August 3, 2011, 5:21 GMT

    Don't judge Dhoni by just one defeat. He has taken the team to all the highs which we are enjoying now. I am sure he will find the winning ways soon. Just the country and its people needs to be behind him.These are testing times.

  • Gudimalla on August 3, 2011, 5:20 GMT

    Don't judge Dhoni by just one defeat. He has taken the team to all the highs which we are enjoying now. I am sure he will find the winning ways soon. Just the country and its people needs to be behind him.These are testing times.

  • on August 3, 2011, 5:19 GMT

    Please if any selector is reading this article. Please replace harbhajan singh, he is no as good as he got hype. People think he is a utility batsman, but i am afraid he is not. When he is not under pressure he scores freely butUnder pressure he cant even make a single run so as applied to all tail and about bowling he is just pathetic.

  • Vnod_Pllai on August 3, 2011, 5:14 GMT

    At the start of the series many experts said there is nothing to choose between two teams and the deciding factor will be the captaincy of Dhoni and Strauss. After two matches one would have to say, Strauss was better than Dhoni. Dhoni was too deffensive when the situation demanded him to be attacking. Now everybody awaits on Sehwag's return and I don't think he will come and change things around in the first test he plays, if he does it will be great. He will also take some time to adjust to the conditions and by the time the series will be over. At the moment, the way it is going I won't be surprised if India get white washed 4-0

  • Joby_George on August 3, 2011, 5:10 GMT

    Dhoni, never say that players are tired, that's not an excuse. You guys are paid to play for india. You guys are selected from millions. There are thousands of cricketers who are ready to play 365 days an year if given a chance to play for India. We respect your tactics as captain but you cant do anyting with this team. When india bats, runs are difficult, when england bats, they scores 400 odd runs a day. All respect to Rahul Dravid & VVS Laxman for their contribution. Sachin can be good only if he forget about his 100th ton. No wonder if India looses the serves 4-0. Sewagh will also fail, just as others. Always accept the fact that the better team wins. Congrats England.

  • udhayuk66 on August 3, 2011, 5:07 GMT

    Dear Dhoni ji, So far you are smartly using the resources procured by Ganguly ji (Gambhir,sehwag,yuvraj,zaheer,harbhajan,raina) think about how many times these players are saved matches for india .should be almost all the time.so better concentrate on the tactics and you have to improve ur game paralelly.you are against the seniors but with out those seniors our test team cant have been become number one.cricket doesnt ends after winning the world cup still lot of things has to be done excuses cant be accepted more than one time.

  • me54321 on August 3, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    So some players have effectively played a 5 test series, and Dhoni cites tiredness. I thought 5 test series were standard not so long ago. It's amazing how tired you feel when you're playing badly and losing.

  • Frankspeaker-USA on August 3, 2011, 5:02 GMT

    Get Jaffer back to save third test...and India's pride...especially Ravi Shastri's... :) as he recently told England was never...no.1... come on India take some tough decision...recall Wasim Jaffer

  • shahid_0070 on August 3, 2011, 5:01 GMT

    My suggestion for team India is to drop harbajjan and bring back mishra and my dream team for next two test matches and zaheer is fit then there should be contest b/w sree/mishra and am sure that this team will beat england that they never dreamed before in both the tests and the series will be 2-2 and India will stay at no. 1. 1.viru,2.guati,3.dravid,4.sachin,5.laxman,6.raina,7.dhoni,8.mishra/sreesanth,9.zaheer,10.ishanth,11.praveen

  • siriherath on August 3, 2011, 4:55 GMT

    Lot of common sense in Ganguly's words of wisdom. Hear! Hear!! During Eng/SL test series, some hyper eccentric wishfuls who literrally hijacked the comments columns to write fairy stories about Indian heroes and were rediculing Sri Lanka and England cricketers saying over and over again that SL vs Eng series were mere practice games for the real encountera between Eng/Ind. They belittled and rediculed all SL cricketers whilst showering huge praises over almighty Sachin, Dravid, VVS etc. Now they've got large eggs on their faces. SL lost one test, that too in bizaar circumstances when the team got dismissed for less than 100 in the 4th innings. India played two lost two in gigantic margins. I am an ardent admirer of Indian greats: Hazare, Mankad, Pankaj Roy, Solkar, Umrigar, Manjrekar, Gavaskar and of course Tendulkar. By hyping up your team far too much and insulting everyone else enevitably creates an opportunity to come crashing down, like you have 2 days ago.

  • loung_singh on August 3, 2011, 4:55 GMT

    sourav is absolutely right here...if english tailenders can score at rate of about 5 runs a over wht hppnd 2 greatest batting line up..and m fed up wid talk of india no 1 ..india has played 11 series after being no 1 in rankings..out of these they won 8 ...of the 8 won 5 were at home and 3 out of india..these overseas series wins were against great teams like bangladesh , new zealand and west indies wht a great performance! and cnt understand why evryone s saying dat india ve become better visitors ...tell me how? u havnt won a single series in ausralia or south africa...even u cnt beat sri lanka in lanka hw can u claim 2 be d best team

  • Vernacular_Press on August 3, 2011, 4:41 GMT

    Mr.Ganguly , do u remember the india vs australia in 2004 , when u didnt play simply coz curator prepared a pacers pitch and u were the captain.

  • Rangarajan_Rajamani_Chennai on August 3, 2011, 4:38 GMT

    (Cotd) . . . Look at the record of Sachin for the first few years and his average didnt cross 35. He is once in a lifetime cricketer no doubt but he was not made in a day.

    The greatest mistake all of us do is to compare a new comer with Sachin or Dravid or Sehwag or Laxman and say they have to replace them it is difficult!!!! Why should someone become another Sehwag or another Sachin? Did Sachin become another Gavaskar? Did Laxman become another Azhar? They all had their own style.

    And Sachin played for Yorkshire initially and Dravid for Kent and Ganguly for Lancashire . . . Olden times, Kapil, Shastri all played county cricket and that was how they were able to improve their technique.

    Now BCCI should think - Does it want money (Short term) or money (Long term) . . . If they have to earn more, then India should win more . . . if India has to win more then the next gen should be groomed properly . . .

    IPL is short term . . . It would kill the money that they have

  • on August 3, 2011, 4:38 GMT

    I think Ganguly was the best ever captain of India. He should be there in the chief selectors panel. By the way, where is Wasim Jaffer? Wasn't he good as opener?.. ohhh believe this or not I just scribbled about Jaffer and went above to read the full article and then saw Ganguly had mentioned about him. See.. that's what I am talking about. Ganguly should be there among the selectors. Isn't there anyone in India who can bowl around 145-155 km/h consistently? Praveen is good in swinging the ball but the batsman gets the time to take the decision whether to play the ball or not. He is too slow. If he can bowl around 140 km/h he can be another Dale Steyn.

  • lethal007 on August 3, 2011, 4:30 GMT

    so match said before series but india has missing the real trick by not choosing mishra as the english team has a history of failure against leggie........ dhoni was talking about emergence of hero so y cant gamble with mishra......n fielding is also let them down...let c what surprise third match have for us

  • Rangarajan_Rajamani_Chennai on August 3, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    I agree with quite a lot of what Dada says but what is the solution? I don't agree with REGIONAL remarks against Mukund and that he alone is responsible. However, it is the fault of BCCI (not necessarily Cheeka). They DO NOT GROOM youngsters. Since 1932, India has been having this short pitch problem but close to 80 years they have done nothing about it. People keep saying Pujara Pujara but what if he gets out cheaply for the next couple of chances he gets? He would definitely fail coz he doesnt have the exposure. Overnight, they cant learn to adapt!

    I would rather say send these Mukunds Vijays Pujaras Rahanes to play FC cricket in England Aus and SA (instead of IPL) and then let them struggle there for 2-3 seasons. let them learn how to play swing, how to play short pitch and then they can come back. These days the cricketers come early (18-19) . . . Even if they sent them now for 2 years, they can get ready. (Cotd...)

    In India pitches are like mud and hence these guys would not

  • GJmelb on August 3, 2011, 4:24 GMT

    To be number one & stay there for a long period of time, like Aussie, you should always be looking at winning & taking pride in what you have achieved but I'm sorry to say I don't see these characteristics in most of our players. So its high time we chuck Dravid, Dhoni, Bhaji & Sreesanth out and invest in new comers like Virat, Rohit, Raina, Ashwin etc and make them quality test players. Good luck team India for the rest of the series.

  • on August 3, 2011, 4:23 GMT

    Last year when Pakistan played England in a four test series, they were at least able to win one test out of four and give them a really tough time in two others. I doubt India would be able to do it. India is no doubt the best side in the world, but only on dry flat surfaces of India. Bring in some bounce, pace and swing and good luck team India.

  • Hindh on August 3, 2011, 4:20 GMT

    Dont count DHONI out so easily.. What dhoni and India have won in last 5 years eng have not won those in last 100 years i.e., 50 over WC, T20 WC and No 1 in test ranking. SO think before criticizing Dhoni. HE is a great captain.

  • on August 3, 2011, 4:13 GMT

    Dhoni's excuse of not getting enough rest or cramped schedule does cut much ice. Why didn't he complained of the tough schedule when IPL came up after the world cup. Why didn't the God of Cricket take rest in the IPL so that he could play in the West Indes for India. But the so called God of cricket thought it proper to play in IPL but not play for India in West Indes. Why didn't Sehwag had is shoulder surgery after the world cup, when all knew that he required it. BCCI which says that IPL is its product and big players need to play in it, then isn't Ranji Trophy/Duleep Trophy their product then why do not they force these seniors to play in these tournaments. Is IPL more important than India. BCCI could have made the seniors like Zaheer, Gambhir, Dhoni, Sehwag, Tendulkar rest in IPL and compensated them monetary, but they didn't do it. And know we find them complaining of cramped schedule and not having enough rest. What a joke is it?

  • on August 3, 2011, 4:07 GMT

    Indian cricket fans and supporters needn't necessarily pay heed to typically jealous comments of fans from PAK, SL etc. who would want every chance to pounce on our ranking. That said, the reason India never had the aura of WI or AUS #1 teams was cuz it had a threadbare bowling attack. Only Zaheer, and Kumble when he was playing would walk into other international teams. Harbhajan has regressed, Mishra, Ojha, Ishant, Sreesanth - plenty of talent, not enough matchwinning performances. What gave them cover to work through the batting was our openers, and then middle order piling it on. This time without Sehwag and Gambhir they've crumbled and lower middle order has been soft. Can understand Ganguly's frustration - despite his many failings he build this team brick by brick but his proteges have regressed since. And for all those who questioned his batting, India has yet to find someone even half as good as him at No.6. First thing they should do is do away with excuses and fess up.

  • on August 3, 2011, 4:02 GMT

    People say that Sachin, Laxman, Dravid should retire and given young ones a chance. But look at that number 6 position. Its vacant since last 3 years since Ganguly has retired, and till now no one has even threatened to make that place as his own. Dont know whos gonna play Dravid like innings in the future.

  • on August 3, 2011, 3:49 GMT

    Is Dhoni is tired, then why don't he back to hotel and rest? Then why attend charity dinner events of his wife's charity? Shame on you!

  • Emancipator007 on August 3, 2011, 3:39 GMT

    Apart from Zaheer, it is the SEHWAG factor which has given India the decisive impact for maintaining no. 1 Test ranking and chance for orthodox, middle order to settle down and dictate terms. No 300 in any innings for 5 Tests since Viru's absence! Viru's 1st innings record is devastating and gives the momentum and initiative to his team; meanwhile leaving opposing teams shell-shocked. Even through his 2nd innings record is average, 4th innings targets are not easy to set. In other words, Viru's presence overwhelms teams either ways. No single batsman showed the intent to attack, impose or dictate terms to England in either innings of both Tests including great SRT. Scoring positively matters nowadays in Tests too. Eng did that deliberately in 2nd innings despite time on hand and crushed Indians' spirit. Tamim Iqbal was devastating against same Eng attack last season and went down guns blazing.

  • Tigersrini on August 3, 2011, 3:38 GMT

    Dada is right. Team India please don't give excuses. This is modern day cricket. Everyone knows the Tour Plan upfront. Plan for the remaining two tests and secure a win and draw and India's No 1 status remains. Sending one of ur best No 6, Laxman who is so gud with the tail as No3, is tactical mistake. They cud have asked may be Yuvraj or Raina to go at No 3 and send Laxman at No 6. Why can't our Coaches listen to the TV commentary.We were leaking boundaries throughout in the England 2nd innings costed us 175-200 runs. Everyone in the Commentary box was talking about having a thirdman. But neither Fletcher nor Dhoni heard

    We are poor at innovation and planning. Remember not so far back. India didn't go for the win against West Indies. Why didn't anyone innovate and the moment the first wicket fell on that day, Bhajji shud have been sent to blast a few boundaries. May be he wud have failed may be he wud have succeeded. If he had succeeded the things wud have been different. Man think

  • Emancipator007 on August 3, 2011, 3:37 GMT

    2. will improve with experience. Gang will soon be the public face of Indian cricket off the field-replacing the great Sunil Gavaskar. This was one of the worst ever displays that I have seen by a strong Indian Test team abroad. There should have been tactical attempts to prevent England scoring so quickly on 3rd day: what is the back room staff for at times like these but to pass on salvaging measures to beleaguered captain. On the batting front, Yuvraj's display in 2nd innings was SHOCKING; the swagger comes back only for ODIs and T 20s for Raina,Dhoni and Yuvi. Bangladeshi batsmen went down fighting (Tamim tore into this very same attack) in Eng last year. An average Pak batting line up still managed to win 1 Test last season and another against Australia in same conditions. In early season swinging conditions this year, SL batsmen fared much better.

  • on August 3, 2011, 3:35 GMT

    Dhoniji Cricket is your profession you keep yourself fit for all 365 days a year.....if I say the same in my profession I should be fired

  • jackforce on August 3, 2011, 3:32 GMT

    Mr.Dhoni, Take the defeat like a man and save yourself from using all the excuses in the world. Man up.Ganguly is exactly right. May be Dhoni have to let someone to take his spot. No doubt he was a big part of world cup success, but that was long gone. He seems out of place in a test squad. Wicket keeping is pretty average and no tactics whatsoever of how to get rid of the tailenders.I'm still ok losing a test after a hard fight. I didn't see any of that and on top of that making excuses is unacceptable.Tip for Dhoni: Next time stay away from the mic so you can look

    smart.

  • on August 3, 2011, 3:30 GMT

    I'll not be surprised if India loose this series 4-0.You cannot win test matches against a quality team with two batsman of real class in your side and a elementary school standard bowling.Playing a test match in English conditions has always been a hard nut to crack for India.And team India after winning the world cup were never aware about their fitness and were flyng high. Now the are on earth.

  • on August 3, 2011, 3:28 GMT

    Why can't India have pace pitches atleast training. Also Sachin is not showing his greatness whenever India really needed(very rarelly happened). Dravid technic is exceptional and time and again he proved his worthiness in fast pitches. India cannot be no 1 unless India prove that they can play fast pitches. Dhoni should accept the fact that they beaten by a better a team instead of excuses. Please try to save India loosing to 4-0.

  • Iddo555 on August 3, 2011, 3:25 GMT

    ravi shastri seems to be getting mad, can someone tell me why this is? I've seen clips of him going crazy over nasser, bcci and drs. Why is he getting so hot under the collar?

  • on August 3, 2011, 3:23 GMT

    I can understand for the money the Indian players getting from IPL , they should be playing and make some quick money !.But after a heavy world cup work load they should have taken off from atlest first 4-5 IPL matches instead of participating in all ! Even Rahul Dravid played almost all IPL matched but he never was part of worldcup team so he was not that tired like those who toiled hard for World cup. Hopefully when 2015 World cup comes they schedule IPL atleast a 40-50 days before or after !

  • HyderabadiFlick on August 3, 2011, 3:22 GMT

    @Robayeth Robs: Plz think again about the Nagpur test (vs AUS'04) and then decide who does not complain. Every former player is entitled to say anything and may be he has more no. of wins but he is a one time cup winner(Natwest). He does not mentioned any where not to play IPL, as he is part of it. And more over India has done exceedingly well under Dhoni. That does not imply Dhoni is doing wonders in Test cricket. In test cricket have Gambhir as captain and make Dhoni a man for all seasons and make him play like Gilchrist. Still without Viru India scores like in 1970. People blame players like Rahul, Sachin and Laxman for slow strike rate and asks them to retire.But not even a single youngster has cemented his place in the last 4 yrs. Selectors need to bring Robin, Rohit, Irfan, RP, Dinesh and Pujara in the team. Otherwise it will be very late to replace the 4 greats of our batting line up. IPL needs to be the in winter which gives players to retain strength for rest of the year.

  • raghu566 on August 3, 2011, 3:10 GMT

    DaDa was Spot on particularly abt VVS. He should bat at no.5. He stays back and plays comfortably with old ball and moreover he plays well with tailenders(Including Dhoni). Someone should be there at top who can see off the new ball for at least 15 ovrs.

  • crictime11 on August 3, 2011, 3:06 GMT

    india loooooost :} no offense but i do not think india shld have been world champs... they got lucky whn they became one... england wiped this team out :}

  • rustin on August 3, 2011, 3:00 GMT

    I know Dada was uncomfortable against the short ball, but how many times was he actually dismissed to it? I remember him ducking down ungainly to chest high bouncers but not getting out to it frequently. It was almost always the fishing outside the off stump that ushered him back to the pavilion. And he has scored EVERYWHERE. Including SA when everyone else failed. Remember his comeback fifties? And the article seems to indicate the hunger he still has for the game. He seems to letting out his own feelings when he says " once it goes, you won't get it back, even how much you want it". I can stomach the team losing, but not retreating like wimps. Go down fighting. Play with aggression. I hope the guy best at that, Sehwag, gets in for the next test.

  • procric on August 3, 2011, 2:51 GMT

    Truly speaking, Dhoni is a good manager and Dada was a good leader. Dhoni is just properly utilizing the product produced by Dada. But sometimes managers get cought in difficult situations and then there are disasters. Whether Dhoni has it in him or not can be seen in coming days.

  • on August 3, 2011, 2:45 GMT

    Dhoni ji, so many people were rested in west indies series... plz do not shoot back to back adds.. you will get plenty of time to play cricket... i want to see a double digit score from you... AND DADA absolutely right.. when he had lost, he always taken blame!!

  • Swingit on August 3, 2011, 2:44 GMT

    I see many of my brother here are saying it but remember I was the first to point it out. what is "it". well the reason for team India's abysmal display in England so far. And that is because THE HIGH AND MIGHTY SO CALLED GODS OF INDIAN CRICKET SKIPPED THE WINDIES TOUR!! All had excuse why they skip playing in the Caribbean (though they had no problem playing in the IPL), well what are they saying now? Who is the REAL GOD of Indian cricket so far on this tour? RAHUL "THE WALL" DRAVID! And guess where he was while the rest of the "elites" were taking time off after the IPL? IN THE CARIBBEAN OF COURSE! Playing the searing pace of Edwards and the Stippling bounce and swing of Rampaul on REAL wicket in Jamaica and Barbados. And please stop with Zaheer already. He BROKE DOWN. He is unfit! He should have skipped IPl and went to the Windies then you would have seen how much trouble he would have given England. Oh and news flash for all the Sewhag fans - he will fail on return too

  • on August 3, 2011, 2:41 GMT

    Dhoni was busy promoting his charity "Sakshi foundation" (named after his wife) after losing the Lords test and the whole team , including Sachin, went for the charity dinner. Organizing charity dinner in UK is not 5 minute task. you need lots of time, energy to prepare for that. Obviously Dhoni ( and rest of the team) did not have time to sit and think about opposing team's strength & weaknesses. Ask Dhoni if he knows any one weakness of opposing team? Whereas one English bowler was grinning after Trent Bridge Test saying that they have discovered some chinks in some Indian players' armor.So,be ready to see some more pathetic display from Dhoni & co. Recall Dada as captain, then the 4 "olides" (Dada, Sachin, Dravid, VVS) will show how to win matches. Anyway now also the team is depending upon senior players, the so called "young" players are" tired" after "so much cricket." Give them some rest.

  • kas211 on August 3, 2011, 2:40 GMT

    I would have to agree with Ganguly on this. I feel as though India lack the ruthlessness. Having England 124/8, India were in a great position to get England out for less than 150. On the other hand the batting has been quite disastrous. Apart from Dravid, no one really seems as though they can cope with the swing in England, and they just seem to lack confidence. Hopefully the Indians can use this upcoming practice match as a way to stamp their authority and prove everyone wrong. At the moment, everyone is having a go at the Indian team, and questioning their No. 1 ranking (myself included being a die hard India fan). I hope they've taken into account some of the criticism and show everyone what a great team India is that everyone knows.

  • Iddo555 on August 3, 2011, 2:37 GMT

    india are not just getting beat, they are getting smashed in all departments, England won this test by over 300 hundred runs and with a day to spare. I'm afraid for India fans that this will be 4-0. The best you can hope for is to smeak a draw and avoid a whitewash

  • Stevo_ on August 3, 2011, 2:34 GMT

    What happened to the Indian cricketing dynasty that all the Indians told me was coming?

  • on August 3, 2011, 2:29 GMT

    Indians were laughing at Sri Lanka when they lost 1 of the 3 test played ...Now what India? what should i say ....LMAO.....

  • Number1Sucks on August 3, 2011, 2:25 GMT

    @Shakir Raja : True India did not have a good bowling attack in Zaheer's absence but how about their batting. The star-studded line-up could have applied themselves better.Ganguly was not great on short-pitched stuff but as far as I remember as a youngster he never gave up and was not scared on short-pitched bowling the way the young guns of India showed. I believe this is what he meant. He did not boast of him being very good in facing short-pitched bowling.

  • Humdingers on August 3, 2011, 2:23 GMT

    A little hypocritical given Ganguly's failings with short ball and his spineless selection/captaincy strategies (think back to that world cup against Aus and not playing Kumble). But good on him for speaking out about this. This is the biggest test for the Indian Team and for them to come in under prepared is appalling! Will the learn the mistake when they go to Australia later this year?... I think not. By the end of the year, India will be ranked around 4-5 again. Enjoy number 1 while you can gents. Then again, with the IPL paychecks.... ah story for another time.

  • strategic_blunder on August 3, 2011, 2:20 GMT

    To all the partisan lot, in essence both Dada and Dhoni are doing their job. It is a commentators job to comment (irrespective of their own ability in the said topic) and a captains job to explain a situation (to what they feel is MOST important, and please consider that they have to be nurturing and positive in their assessment).....There are two kind of champion teams in a sport, one is in which the sum of parts is greater than individuals (i.e. Aus). The other is in which certain individuals enforce thrust at critical stages (i.e. India). Unfortunately, when the enforcers are missing, this kind of team struggles. Also sadly, one cant groom individuals to be enforcer of a team, otherwise all the teams wouldve groomed Sehwags and Zaheers for their respective team.....Its no surprise that India has come to this no. 1 position post 2001, they had the Tendlya+Dravid+Ganguly+Lax since mid 90's but failed to be this assertive then. This clearly demonstrates the importance of enforcers.

  • AvidCricFan on August 3, 2011, 2:09 GMT

    India misses Gary Kirsten. Where is our coach?

  • on August 3, 2011, 2:08 GMT

    ganguly digging into yuvraj and raina for not playing well against the short ball as if he himself was a 'great' against the short pitch bowling...funny innit.... I think india lost both the test matches bcoz they played only 4 bowlers....and if u take out zaheer out of the attack, the other 3 bowlers are not skillfull enough to take 20 wickets or even 15 wickets between them I think for the next test they should play 5 specialist bowlers and 5 batsmen plus dhoni...we cant depend on the bowlers to score runs when the record holding batsmen cant...

  • Silloh on August 3, 2011, 2:06 GMT

    Well said Mr. Ganguly. From the Caribbean these Indian guys look disenchanted , no will power and really like soft jelly. Sure England is clicking and playing extremely well as a unit. But where is the spunk in the India team man ? To start I agree too many darn excuses especially if you are trying to retain the no one position. For a country with well over one billion people where are the replacements ? May be the focus is on IPL .When a fighter like Harbhajan looks so weak and bewildered on the field then there must be serious concerns and the issues may be much deeper than on the cricket field. India will rebound but certainly not in this series . They need to return to their mantra.

  • rahulcricket007 on August 3, 2011, 1:53 GMT

    i agree with ganguly .wasim jaffer is a very talented batsmen . he has played for india in the past too. in the south african tour of 2006 & the last england tour he played really well. he should be selected in the place of inexperience mukund . and please dhoni stop saying that mukund and raina are new in the english conditions so they did not play well. look at dinesh chandimal he is barely 20 years old and played some excellent innings against the same bowlers in the seaming conditions.

  • on August 3, 2011, 1:28 GMT

    Time had come for Dhoni's execuses to answer his critics.. But without sehwag and Gambir and without a secured strong 6th batsman it will be tough to be like a number 1 team..Opening batsman with fearless play have given us great starts in last few years.. But it would be better to accept the loss and get back next game rther than giving excuses...

  • Alexk400 on August 3, 2011, 1:27 GMT

    I like dhoni better than ganguly anyday. Main reason is dhoni credit his players for the win. Ganguly took all credit and was mafia king pin and picking his own players. I think it is more open environment with dhoni. Dhoni is greatest captain if he has all the tools. ganguly is more angry man , Dhoni is captain cool. India is number 1 because lots of pieces joined to create good team. India is like Old car that made to run with parts and pieces. if one part fail , there is no back up. Why no back up because BCCI selection policy of quota system. They should change selection policy for fast bowlers based on TALL , Athletic criteria. May be special scholarship for fast bowlers. Every one wants to be sachin and sehwag not a fast bowler. Fast bowling is hard work. Eat meat diet and hit the gym everyday to strengthern the knee.

  • on August 3, 2011, 1:24 GMT

    No body mentioned the role of the new coach in rectifying the inexperienced batters to english conditions .He is an expert being an ex-coach of English team. No comments from him!!!

  • Emancipator007 on August 3, 2011, 1:15 GMT

    It's not Zak, but the SEHWAG factor which has given India the decisive impact for maintaining no. 1 Test ranking and chance for orthodox, middle order to settle down and dictate terms. No 300 in any innings for 5 Tests since Viru's absence! Viru's 1st innings record is devastating and gives the momentum and initiative to his team; meanwhile leaving opposing teams shell-shocked. Even through his 2nd innings record is average, 4th innings targets are not easy to set. In other words, Viru's presence overwhelms teams either ways. No single batsman showed the intent to attack, impose or dictate terms to England in either innings of both Tests including great SRT. Tamim Iqbal was devastating against same Eng attack last season and went down guns blazing.

  • Emancipator007 on August 3, 2011, 1:11 GMT

    will improve with experience. Ganguly will soon be the public face of Indian cricket off the field-replacing the great Sunil Gavaskar. This was one of the worst ever displays that I have seen by a strong Indian Test team abroad. There should have been tactical attempts to prevent England scoring so quickly on 3rd day: what is the back room staff for at times like these but to pass on salvaging measures to beleaguered captain. On the batting front, Yuvraj's display in 2nd innings was SHOCKING; the swagger comes back only for ODIs for Raina,Dhoni and Yuvi. Bangladeshi batsmen went down fighting (Tamim tore into this very same attack) in Eng last year. An average Pak batting line up still managed to win 1 Test last season and another against Australia in same conditions. In early season swinging conditions this year, SL batsmen fared much better.

  • Douggy on August 3, 2011, 1:09 GMT

    I 100% agree with you sourav the problem of the short ball has showed up since the West Indies tour and nothing seems to have been done about these flaws in their technique. Mukund will face the axe now as a result, Jaffer is a really good experienced player that India are badly missing.The openers need to set a proper foundation for the rest of players to build on.

  • Emancipator007 on August 3, 2011, 1:08 GMT

    Fans dissing Ganguly have short-term memories of his scoring on pacy, fast pitches with sheer guts if not superb defensive technique. 48,60* at Barbados, 2002, 51* and 25 at Jo'Burg, 2006(Sreesanth Test which India won),144 at pacy Gabba, Brisbane,2003,34 and 37 -more combined runs than Big 4 in pacy Karachi Test wicket in 2006 which India lost and 915 runs in England @ 65. He never failed in England! 28 Tests have been played since he was forced out of Tests; not a single contender capable of filling place. Try and discern what he is saying: these shoddy performance defeats to England are hurting him as he never lost a series to England during playing days (he made his debut in 2nd Test after India lost 1st Test in 1996). Never lost to S. Waugh's teams either.This guy's courage and outspokenness is still intact; look at how he SHUT Vaughan up by openly taking him on in England about the VVS vaseline incident. Commentary is sharp, observant and incisive; obviously delivery style CONTD.

  • ChandraPrince on August 3, 2011, 1:07 GMT

    So far it's been a very poor show by India. England seem to be no match for India in spite of the boasting and hype about Indian team's ablities by India's cricket fans. On the other hand we saw how even wihout Dilshan, or Malinga Sri Lanka played much better and agressive cricket...We cricket fans worldwide expect lot more from India. So far it has been so humiliating for India stepped on all over so badly and to be treated like like such a timid pushover by England...

  • mohsin9975 on August 3, 2011, 1:05 GMT

    Get jaffer to open wid sehwag. gambhir at 6.Mishra/zaheer in for bhajji depending on pitch. Make ishant nd sreesanth practice yorkers in nets to tackle tailenders and slower balls to kp during 3rd test. Is it a rule for indian bowlers to bowl yorkers nd slower balls in limited oyer cricket?

  • GJmelb on August 3, 2011, 1:05 GMT

    To be number one & stay there for a long period of time, like Aussie, you should always be looking at winning & taking pride in what you have achieved but I'm sorry to say I don't see these characteristics in most of our players. So its high time we chuck Dravid, Dhoni, Bhaji & Sreesanth out and invest in new comers like Virat, Rohit, Raina, Ashwin etc and make them quality test players. Good luck team India for the rest of the series.

  • Gamaraala on August 3, 2011, 1:04 GMT

    Spot on Ganguly. For once, I like what this guy says.

  • GJmelb on August 3, 2011, 1:02 GMT

    Our bowlers run out of steam after bowling 10 overs. We need to find men with height, broad bone structure & good muscle ratio & train them on how to ball seam, short & fast on pitches like Mohali. We need quick seam bowlers as we've never had trouble finding quality swing or spin bowlers. For an bowling induction candidate, a batting average of 30 and strike rate of 70 should be the minimum criteria, try and find people who have that sought of calibre with bat & good fielding skills, then train them to hone their bowling skills. For induction of batter's, an average of 45 & strike of 70 in test & avg of 40 & strike rate of 85 in one dayers should be the minimum criteria for selection. Inducties should be made to play county cricket least for a season, even if its at BCCI's expense.

  • GJmelb on August 3, 2011, 1:01 GMT

    Had Bell & Prior scored super slow hundreds like Dravid, that would have only resulted in a draw or loss for England. When the pitch has devils in it you should always try to score at good pace as you never know when a beauty gonna get you out. England's aggression with the bat & ball has won them both the matches. In both tests apart from Sachin I didn't see anyone trying to or had the class to dominate the bowling. Now Sehwag does have these instincts but with the ball doing so much he might be as ineffective as Yuvi. Yuvi & Raina could've altered their stance like KP does to upset the bowler's line n length.

  • rtom on August 3, 2011, 0:48 GMT

    Saurav.. u rock.. i gues instead of giving this talk to any media, you should go to the dressing room and give a pep talk to all those who boost themselves as world champions !! From Day two of this test itself our team played as if they are going to loose !! apaling..

  • BabaKR on August 3, 2011, 0:48 GMT

    Not having a third specialist opener (atleast until Sehwag joins the side) and making Dravid open was a risky proposition. While Laxman has done well in the past at number 3, most of his career he has been batting at number 5 and 6 and in the last three years saved India many a time playing in those positions with lower middle order and the tail. Once both these stalwarts were back in the pavilion, the show got over.

  • on August 3, 2011, 0:46 GMT

    DHONI'S ATTITUDE IS NOT GOOD.TO BE FRANK HE IS NOT A CRICKETER AT ALL.IF A BATS MAN GET OUT FOR A GOOD BALL LIKE DRAVID'S AND LAXMAN'S NO ONE CAN BLAME.

    ON THE FOURTH DAY WHEN DHONI COMES TO BAT IT'S LOOK LIKE HE JUST WANT TO ESCAPE FROM THE CHASE BY LIFTING HIS BAT UPWARDS FOR AN IN SWINGER. EVEN STREET CRICKETERS TOO NEVER OFFER THIS KIND OF SHOT FOR AN IN SWINGER.POOR DHONI AND POOR INDIAN CRICKET FANS.

  • GJmelb on August 3, 2011, 0:45 GMT

    Dravid, Dhoni, Bhaji & Sreesanth should be dropped for 3rd test. We all saw Dhoni was pathetic not only with his skills in keeping & batting but he also had no idea on how to dominate or counter attack. Bhaji has never been smart like Kumble to adapt on non turning tracks. Sreesanth as always showed he's no good when conditions or ball aren't helping & just loves being thrashed. Ishant needs to develop body strength & endurance and he did looked exhausted & out of sorts at the end of day 3 & on day 4. Now Mr. Dravid, no doubt he's the biggest chipku (sticker) of all time, but his lack of balls i.e. the ability to demoralize the opposition like Sachin & Sehwag can plus his age (evident from droped catches in slips) makes him unworthy of his place.

  • whatthecook on August 3, 2011, 0:40 GMT

    all of this criticism of indian cricket yet the team rose to number 1 in the test rankings in spite of the board's favouritism of one day and 2020 cricket? leaving important players out of series they could have dominated yet still they managed to make number 1 in the rankings?? credit should be paid to england who, in 2005, managed to defeat australia then, lost half of the team that did that! (trescothick, vaughan, flintoff, simon jones, giles, to injuries, geraint jones and harmison loss of form) to rebuild from there has been a monumental effort and to now have a bowling unit that is virtually interchangeable shows that england have learnt lessons from the past that have transformed them into a team that is almost unplayable in their own country and even dominant in australia!!! the sub-continent is now the ultimate challenge but with good batting wickets and the batting line up we have, who'd bet against england??????

  • mohsin9975 on August 3, 2011, 0:36 GMT

    I m no dhoni fan.Considered dhoni gives useless excuses. Bt one needs to understand, 1.india lack decent consistent bowlers. All except zaheer r erratic-even bhajji is inconsistent.U cant expect dhoni to keep,bat,captain and bowl. And all those exceptionally well. 2.Someone else shd captain in tests.3.Gangulys technique wasnt any better than dhoni, bt he had fighting spirit which dhoni lacks.Except the veteran trio,all batsman do not like to play a slow, ugly nd gutsy innings.4.Sachin badly needs a test innings of substance and defiance.5.India is lacking momentum at the top-sehwag

  • givenUP on August 3, 2011, 0:34 GMT

    Thank God somebody showed guts to speak up the truth and not just defend the team like hypocrites. Wasim Jaffer was axed for no reason. Dhoni is looking so mentally fatigued. And he is trying to be a technical test batsman which he is miles away from. He should go out and hit some quick 40-50s. Tendulkar is literally absent from the team except when he is batting. Harbhajan has taken up this new avatar of a calm person which he is not and that is affecting his bowling. And the sharpness of his bowling was his attitude only and not spin. Only players who are putting up a fight are the seamers, dravid, laxman and yuvraj. Come on Team India..... time to wake up....

  • on August 3, 2011, 0:33 GMT

    Most of your best players were rested for the West Indies tour, and your averages are massaged by playing on flat sub-continent wickets anyway. Quit the excuses and admit you were smacked by a far better team.

  • gzawilliam on August 3, 2011, 0:26 GMT

    @Owls made a good statement. It may be a harsh one of a great player like sachin. But i tend to agree. When he had raina and yuvraj with him getting bounced every single first ball of the over i saw sachin getting a single to get off strike while also exposing these obviously out of confidence players in raina and yuv.

    Also when Yuv got hit he was constantly on strike having to face full overs from bresnan and broad. Now i can agree that these players should know its a hard game and to expect it. But when your already in such a deep hole in the game and you know you've only got a small number of capable batsmen left you try and help them out for the sake of the team.

    Sometimes i think sachin bats for himself on occasion. Which sometime he needs to be to stay focused and forget the outside pressures of the match.. But that should not have happened in the 2nd innings of this match.. Sachin should have taken more of the strike to allow raina or yuv to get settled.. Especially yuv.

  • onphel1 on August 3, 2011, 0:24 GMT

    Good on you Dourav. You were the DADA, you are still DADA for millions of us and yes you've spoken like DADA. Younger players of Indian team, C'MON, listen to this and move on, gather back yourself and put everything into the remaining 2 tests and draw the series. England would be over-confident now, so capitalise on it and wallop them.

  • mohsin9975 on August 3, 2011, 0:19 GMT

    Most ironical situation here.Ganguly commenting of short ball weakness of raina nd yuvi. LOL. Except this, he he is right. Dhonis comments r like those of a gully cricket captain-making excuses-never appreciate d opponents..Frm d begining of d tour i was wondering why wasnt parthiv or karthik chosen as reserve keeper nd openers. Why wasnt jaffer considered as opener.India needs a fast bowler,why not try v aaron.

  • Zulu1981 on August 3, 2011, 0:15 GMT

    I agree with Dada...India is playing it soft....Dhoni ---Prove to the World that u can paly test cricket.....Harbajan---try to make it large with your bowling...

    Come on India -- Its a do or die situation...Fight back and atleast draw the series....

    Jai Hind....

    p.s: Don't allow anymore hat-tricks....

  • strategic_blunder on August 3, 2011, 0:13 GMT

    Yeah, that decision of recall stank of Tendulkar. Failure as a captain himself and making India fail as well in precarious situation. Neither Dravid nor Ganguly wouldve done it. I was surprised when Dhoni did. Most importantly, English wouldnt have done it themselves.

  • mensan on August 3, 2011, 0:08 GMT

    Too much domestic 20-20 / hunger for money for indian players. Clarke and M. Johnson took brave step when they put aside IPL and Big Bash in favour of tests. Added to that is the problem of Tendulkar 100th 100. He is not able to get that off his mind and play according to team needs. There was no need to rest key players for WI tour. They came to ENG under-prepared for tests.

  • on August 3, 2011, 0:08 GMT

    Ganguly is absolutely right...I Have noticed 1 thing out of playing 11, only 3-4 players have interest the match rest are just playing like they are practising in nets. Dhoni should given big break if he does not perform.....they took saha..what a joke, what about Parthiv patel?? Dhoni's endorsement has taken his brains over, he's has no desire for playing and is there just because he's a captain. our bowlers did fine, but we need bowl more short pitched and who has seen an recent Indian bowler bowled a YORKER.. All Indian bowlers are doing is just bowling without brains....India needs to produce good bowlers, don;'t rely on zaheer, what about Irfan pathan??....well this selector's should be resign if a series is lost...same with captains....England is not the best, but India's bad performance are making them look world best.....what a joke.

  • cricketxlover on August 3, 2011, 0:04 GMT

    let us be honest, one reason is not having enough preparation. And I this think reason behind is big bosses only. They blame it on cricketers, but no, its them only. big bosses do not want to be responsible for this giving XYZ reasons. its the IPL only.

  • heathrf1974 on August 3, 2011, 0:02 GMT

    Ganguly talking about being soft? Pot meet kettle.

  • dilipm on August 2, 2011, 23:46 GMT

    Ganguly has a valid point.The youngsters,who many readers seem to think are ready to step into the shoes of Dravid,Tendulkar and Laxman, display severe limitations in Test cricket. Kohli was uncomfortable against pace and bounce in WI. Raina already had this problem but his performance in WI and in the 1st Test here gave hope that he might have overcome it.The 2nd Test showed he hadn't.Yuvraj with his high backlift was always an easy candidate for a fast bowler on a sporting pitch.Mukund has promise but needs to learn more in the Test arena. So where are the young heroes ready to replace the trio of great batsmen? Perhaps Rohit Sharma and Pujara might step up.The youngsters,weaned on ODIs favouring batsmen considerably, have not made technical adjustments to their game to succeed in much more demanding Test cricket.Unless they do India's cupboard of young cricketers looks bare!

  • Tendliya143 on August 2, 2011, 23:46 GMT

    @Alexk400, i have a golden question for you. When was the last time we saw England winning a ICC World Cup? never. I saw your comments on Tendulkar and little dissapointed. Even England players like Andrew Strauss n kevin would be dissapointed with your comments. Sachin never runs away from a problem FYI, he spent 21 years serving cricket and never played for records but only for well being of cricket n cricket India only and a great player as well. Its just a series India had a downfall. when last time England toured India they lost ODI 5-0 and Test 1-0, and England board critized Kevin's captaincy, whats your comment on England players then? Once Indian team stricks back England would be in similar situation like India is right now.

  • on August 2, 2011, 23:44 GMT

    Can anyone wants to look at this amazing English team which has bowlers like Stuwart Broad, James Anderson! I think ENgland is the only team in the world now who can win away series in South Africa and Australia. But I agree they have to prove themselves in Sub Continent.But clearly they r miles ahead against this over rated world no 1 test team.

  • Yorkie77 on August 2, 2011, 23:36 GMT

    Wasim Jaffer has spent the last 2 English summers playing club cricket in England scoring over 3000 runs in the process. He is currently based in Birmingham literally 5 miles from Egbaston. He values his wicket and plays correctly. He has not been jaded playing IPL or one day cricket and would give anything to represent his country again. Give him the call tomorrow and get him into the nets with the squad. There is still opportunity to rescue this series but needs some brave decisions. Take that chance nothing to lose!

  • on August 2, 2011, 23:26 GMT

    Very true words from Dada Sourav. Indian team would do well to listen to him, his anger is like that of an older brother seeing his sibling making repeated mistakes. Very nice to see Ganguly involving in constructive criticism.

  • rlefti on August 2, 2011, 23:18 GMT

    Dada you are spot on....for all the people who think ganguly shouldn't comment on short bowling..here is a thing for you: in England he is one of the best players india had....have forgotten the Brisbane test when the Aussies accused him of short pitch stuff....he made a blinder of a comeback in SA against the same short pitch stuff....if a guy struggles so badly against short pitch stuff he would have scored so many test runs and centuries and Odi runs and centuries.....he didn't say he was good at it...all he said is how can you perform better with the weakness by taking blows and waiting for the bowler to bowl to your strength.....great commentary and great criticism dada....mind you he has been praising dravid all the time and said dravid is more imp than tendulkar in tests which very true....

  • on August 2, 2011, 23:11 GMT

    Played too much cricket? Then play less IPL problem sorted.

  • Frankspeaker-USA on August 2, 2011, 23:10 GMT

    Wasim Jaffer should be recalled.... Jaffer with about 15,000 First class runs is a specialist opener best choice ahead of all...

  • on August 2, 2011, 23:06 GMT

    ganguly digging into yuvraj and raina for not playing well against the short ball as if he himself was a 'great' against the short pitch bowling...funny innit.... I think india lost both the test matches bcoz they played only 4 bowlers....and if u take out zaheer out of the attack, the other 3 bowlers are not skillfull enough to take 20 wickets or even 15 wickets between them I think for the next test they should play 5 specialist bowlers and 5 batsmen plus dhoni...we cant depend on the bowlers to score runs when the record holding batsmen cant...

  • Frankspeaker-USA on August 2, 2011, 23:06 GMT

    Well said Saurav... Jaffer was the first choice in absence of Sehwag... remember Jaffers performance against S.Africa with a double hundred... he was at his peek and for no reason he was dropped....After losing his place in the Test side to Gautam Gambhir, Jaffer made a strong statement through a bumper Ranji season in 2008-09, scoring 1260 runs averaging 84, including a triple-century. He also captained Mumbai to their 38th and 39th Ranji title, as well as overseeing West Zone's 16th Duleep Trophy success in early 2010. I think Jaffer should be recalled...experience players likle VVS, Dravid , Sachin are only performing...Jaffer's First class record talks about his experince

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  • Owls on August 2, 2011, 23:02 GMT

    Very valid points but surprised that it came from Dada. He himself was found woefully out of place against the short pitched stuff. But that apart, he has valid points. Bad selection policies. On English pitches where the ball tends to swing, we have the likes of Raina, Yuvraj who cannot be classified as TEST PLAYERS by any stretch of imagination. Then we have players who are not 100% fit like Zaheer and then the set of players who are in the team based on the record they had a few years ago like Harbhajan, Laxman, Sachin. Pardon me for including the god of cricket in this list but frankly he has not shown that he can fight it out. Other teams have batsmen who will keep retaining the strike when they want to protect the others but I have not seen a single India batsman do that. Why are we scared to bring in changes? Why are guys like Vinay, Rahane, Badri being consistently ignored? Are they guaranteed for performance? Maybe not but how can we be for sure unless we test them out.

  • arun02k81a0205 on August 2, 2011, 23:01 GMT

    No excuses at all now...India lost the matches and most probably the series and importantly their ranking as well. By seeing their performance, one can understand that they clearly don't deserve the # 1 ranking in Tests.

  • on August 2, 2011, 22:57 GMT

    Ganguly is being sensational but not sensible. If you look at why India lost both the tests, you will see that the bowlers were not able to sustain the breakthroughs they had and let the English tail wag. On the other hand, the English bowlers were much more effective. It is not like Cook, Strauss and Trott (1, 2, 3) have been scoring. It is KP in on match and IB in the other along with Prior and the tail. So unless our bowling improves, we will struggle to match England.

  • on August 2, 2011, 22:55 GMT

    A straight six from Dada !! Based on domestic performances, we all thought Mukund might be good. Looks like he has to go back to domestic for couple of seasons. Parthiv Patel (back-up WK + opening bat) would have been a good choice instead of Saha. Need to look at Pujara, Rayadu, Badri, Irfan, RP, Aaron, Umesh Yadav, P Parameswaran, Manoj Tiwari, Dhawan. Should play 4 seamers - Zaheer, PK, Sreesanth & Munaf for 4th test if wicket doesn't aid spinners. Zaheer, PK & Munaf with short run-up may not cause over-rate issue unlike Ishant & Sreeshant.

  • Imad_K on August 2, 2011, 22:42 GMT

    Supporters and experts are coming up with different reasons and excuses. I said before the series that India wouldn't even come close to beating England in even one test match, that India would be lucky to make more than 270 in an innings, that India would be extremely lucky (conditions for bowling are good) to get England out for less than 350 in an innings, that Broad is good enough for India when some of the Indian supporters were saying he is useless, India's hopes to draw the test matches rested on two people Dravid and Tendulkar. The problem is simple and Zaheer Khan, Shewag etc will not make any difference. India have no bowling attack and the biggest problem India have apart from one/two players all the other batsmen cannot play short bowling against quick aggressive bowlers - that is the main problem. Apparent here and when they played in South Africa. Why can the media, experts not see that when it is so blatant?

  • Patchmaster on August 2, 2011, 22:30 GMT

    Indian batsmen are so timid and scared of fast short bowling - surely their coaching staff new what they would be in for in England - just like sides going to India know they'll be batting on boring flat pitches - why didn't they prepare of pick batsmen with more courage ?

  • Crazy_Cricket_Fan on August 2, 2011, 22:15 GMT

    @Flash007..couldn't say it better...Dada's the best captain for India(character wise)..

  • on August 2, 2011, 22:15 GMT

    Thank God, My all time favourite Dada remembered the poor"Wasim Jaffer". Really what wrong has this man done? This shows two things about Indian selection; one, the jeopardy in keeping aisde in-form senior (aging) players for untested untried younger blokes, two, lack of insights in selection. One more thing is worth mentioning here, that's the ability of Ganguly's to identify players and observation about players and their game. I hope Dada soon becomes the part of administration and give India sth as special as he gave as aplayer and captain. U r awesome Dada. We love you...

  • Bhiku on August 2, 2011, 22:14 GMT

    play top 5 batsman which are sehwag,gambhir,rahul,laxman and sachin and top 5 ballers they are shreesanth,ishant,praveen,zaheer and harbhajjan,dhoni is indespensable thats why dont hav to mention.india will win.

  • on August 2, 2011, 22:02 GMT

    india were not really #1 quality , they just caught other teams when they were down. so don't go hard on them. when you think of #1, then think west indies

  • MaruthuDelft on August 2, 2011, 21:51 GMT

    From now on there must be no test places for Yuvraj and Raina. Dhoni and Sehwag may be given 2 more tests. All of them are weak against pace and bounce. Dravid must score runs faster or retire; he makes bowlers growing in confidence by blocking blocking.... Laxman should retire; he looks like an old man. Tendulkar should take back the captaincy; only those who can pull short balls should be given opportunities in test cricket. Only those who consistantly bowl at 136 kph and are over 5'11" should be drafted for fast bowling slots. Only those genuinly spin should be our spinners.

  • 512fm on August 2, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    i agree with ganguly here tbh, i mean england had a grueling winter schedule and sure a couple of them moaned about it but they got on with the job and did pretty well

  • K.A.K on August 2, 2011, 21:45 GMT

    India will come back and take the remaining two games. Dhoni has to lead the team side out of sombre mood and instill the confidence to get it all back in the next two games. Go Dhoni!

  • nuffsaid on August 2, 2011, 21:35 GMT

    Gosh... BD played much better in UK last year compare to Indian super stars.. such as shame!

  • on August 2, 2011, 21:28 GMT

    Common...Let's give due credit to England. Their bowling attack is easily the best in suitable seaming conditions and there is no shame in accepting the fact that England are playing like #1 team in test cricket. Their batting has delivered consistantly and India is below par in comparison at best when fully fit and the injuries didn't help as well. England is going to be the #1 ranked side for while. I would like England to come back to India and defend their status before I acknowledge them as world beaters. I haven't seen an England team which has won a series in India and so the questions do remain with regards to whether they can win in subcontinent as well..

  • Sanath-aiyya on August 2, 2011, 21:19 GMT

    Some of these Indian cricketers are not fit at all. Sachin and Dravid to me seem really fit, they have lean mean physiques that help them with their concentration and stamina.

    The rest are pathetic - from Laxman to Yuvraj to even Praveen Kumar they all have bellies.

    I am happy england won since i dont like the attitude some of the indian players have but i really feel bad for Rahul Dravid - i hope he has an excellent series like he always does.

  • 2929paul on August 2, 2011, 21:16 GMT

    I watched the teams practice their fielding drills and warm up before the first morning at Nottingham and you could see the difference immediately. The Indians looked unfit, lethargic, disinterested and mainly unwilling participants in practices and drills that even school teams do before matches to sharpen their skills. I felt sorry for their fielding coach Trevor Penny who felt obliged to apologise to the players every time they misfielded the ball, as if it was his poor feed to them that was the problem. By contrast, the England practices were sharp and focused, done with real intensity and purpose. Even after the toss and knowing they were batting, some of the team stayed out practicing run out drills and Bell practised his catching at short leg. This was a team looking to improve every area of their game, fit and prepared. India looked like a club 2nd XI that doesn't really think practice makes you any better because they've been around long enough to know it all already.

  • Shan156 on August 2, 2011, 21:12 GMT

    Whoa, two defeats against a good test side in their backyard and people are scathing in their criticism of India. I am an England fan and so this may be none of my business. But, as a cricket fan, I would like to say that some of these Indian players are blessed with abundant talent. The English players may not be as talented but they compensate for that with hard work. The difference between the two sides is definitely not as large as the margins of the two victories suggest. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the absence of top players like Zaheer, Sehwag and Gambhir. Yes, they are top class and would have had some impact on the series but India is the #1 side and you are expected to not just have a world class XI but a world class squad of 15 or 16 players.

    India's woes in this series is mostly down to their lack of fitness and proper preparation. As someone mentioned look at the bellies of some of these players. Awful.

  • Kaushik_Ray on August 2, 2011, 21:07 GMT

    I mean how can this man talk about playing bouncers and short pitched bowling!! Its really a joke!

  • Iddo555 on August 2, 2011, 20:57 GMT

    Dravid and Laxman are good players, the only ones who would have a chance of getting in this England side. India are not that good, it is as simple as that. Too much IPL hitting bowlers around the the park, a free licence where it doesn't matter that much if you lose your wicket. When it comes to trying to hand in there I think only Dravid and Laxman have the guts and skill for it.

  • on August 2, 2011, 20:51 GMT

    India currently having a non-playing (performing) captain does not help. It is ok ok for MSD to bully-bat on sub-continent decks but it is a bit different on other tracks. And his keeping is becoming reminiscent of Pakistani Kamran Akmal. India need a good gloveman to assist their mediocre attack .. and a new spinner.

  • pradeep_tjp on August 2, 2011, 20:46 GMT

    @AlexK400: Why are you so critical against Dravid man. He has played well in this series. Styen never bowled a gaffer of a ball to Dravid. Morkel dismissed him in SA. He is now sorting it out in this series which a better bowling attack than SA in Home conditions with good third seamer which SA dont have.

  • tanwardhillon on August 2, 2011, 20:43 GMT

    ganguly on point. don't depend on your key player all the time have some extra to relief them so they don't get injured. because india plays lot of cricket need some extra.

  • on August 2, 2011, 20:37 GMT

    It is actually frustrating to see the team surrender like this. Reminds me of SA tour in 1998. I hope that we manage to win the last 2 tests but seeing the way the series has played so far, I wouldn't hold my breath!

  • on August 2, 2011, 20:30 GMT

    i think Ganguly has point, all happen cause of injuries and due to playing lots of cricket since last world cup but you can't make that excuse. it is international team, they should have been more prepared for. they should have more players for injuries or even so some of the other players could rest to avoid injuries. if you know you have to play lots of cricket then they should have more players to relief each other instead i see there only few player which are keep playing every game, that's where injuries and pressure came from

  • on August 2, 2011, 20:24 GMT

    Hats off to Dada....but when criticizing other players, you didn't say anything about bhaji...we understand that he is a quality but when ur form is not good, you r not to be considered only for ur past goodwill.that even happened with you DADA. India have raina, yuvi, sachin, even dhoni to share the ball as part timer. so, its time for India to think about 4 fast/pace bowler who can trouble the inform English batsman. It looks odd when each and every bats man getting runs against poor Indian attack. I think parthiv or kartik is better option than Dhoni for test match. Both of them r Wk and openr. India should think life after Sachin,Dravid,Laxman if not sehwag as he has a lot of years left to him. Inida even didn't find a replacement for Dada who can score big centurie batting at number 5,6 or 7. What's wrong with Irfan pathan? Isn't he the best all rounder among very few that India got now a days?

  • on August 2, 2011, 20:22 GMT

    well lets for get about every thing and lets talk about what are the problems that Indian team is facing. 1. we don't have a good opening pair, non of the young boys couldn't handle the opening pressure. 2. all the batsman in the English side are contributing where as only 3 batsman are performing in the Indian side. 3. we don't have a decent all-rounder, the one who is ready and can ball good on English conditions we don't take him (IRFAN PATHAN), this helps India have an extra bowler like the English. we have a very thin line of bowling attack. 4.Harbhajan needs to have to take a break from both forms of game and some new blood needs to take the charge, Harbhajan needs to work on his basics, if other players are not performing they are dropped then it should be the same for Harbhajan. 5. the Indian team needs to play some aggressiveness game rather then a relaxed game.

  • johnathonjosephs on August 2, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    @ Rezaul Frankly I think Dravid did amazing with his job as opener. In this series, he has been made to open the innings 3 times. Out of those 3 times, 2 times he made a century

  • johnathonjosephs on August 2, 2011, 20:17 GMT

    You know... I find it very sad that the Indian fans are so shocked by this.... This was a long way coming. In fact, almost every time India has bowled so far (bar 2nd day of first Test and the 3rd day of the 2nd test), the conditions have been the best for bowlers. Every time England bowls (bar the 4th day of the 2nd test), it had been flat and easy for the Indian batsman. Only on the 4th day of the 2nd test match and only then was when England finally had the conditions that they liked. Dhoni has won the toss 2/2 times so far... If Edbagston has overcast conditions on the first day and England win and choose to bowl, Indian fans, be very very scared

  • Singhnz on August 2, 2011, 20:16 GMT

    That's what Indian player need, good on you Dada. Being a World Champion does not mean that you don't need fitness Dhoni! Stop making excuses Just play like World Champion, People has high hopes for India because India is WORLD CHAMPION I guess Team India is aware of this! Come on Guys we have to win last two tests Best of Luck

  • John-Price on August 2, 2011, 20:16 GMT

    "what's wrong with Wasim Jaffer? " Answer: only once reached 20 in his last 13 test innings.

  • on August 2, 2011, 20:10 GMT

    India needs to decide in the first instance whether they want to be at top in tests or not. If the answer is yes they need to implement a proper scheme to have a pool of about 15-16 players with proper test match fitnees. Test match fit and IPL fit are totally different things. No matter how good a bowler you are like Zaheer Khan, if you are not fit enough to bowl 20-25 overs a day in long spells you are going to break down. Zaheer played in the IPL and had bowled only 63 overs in international cricket this year coming into an all important test series. Sehwag apparently postponed his treatment to allow him to play in the IPL. There was only one practice game before the test series commenced and that is not at all sufficient to adjust to seaming conditions in England. Compared to SL India enjoyed better batting conditions but in spite all experience and talent in batting failed miserably since they were totally under prepared.

  • ramanan.ch on August 2, 2011, 20:05 GMT

    And, for the opportunists who jump up and talk down too much to downgrade India: Look, India hasn't lost the series yet. Moreover, India has won the past two series in England and England has never won a test series in India. Then, on what logic are you guys claiming that England is the better team? Same with SA. SA used to very well in India surprisingly. But, on the last two series between IND and SA, both series in India and SA are drawn. So, they haven't defeated us either once we have got the No 1 ranking. Remember the great Australian team under Steve Waugh never won a test series in India while it was being claimed as the best and no 1 team. Use senses not discretion against India being no 1. Doesn't matter whether u win by 1 run or a 100 run, it is still the same win. Whether India claimed to the top spot by sweeping the series or scratching the series marginally, doesn't matter. Now, we are no 1 and defeat us to claim the no 1 position. If possible, better try that on our back

  • on August 2, 2011, 20:03 GMT

    Yeah. I have many laughs. India is only nominal/paper No.1. Further, they only won the world cup because it was played in India. They are flat. England has the making of a real No. 1. Two more good bowlers and a batsman and they will be unstoppable.I think is England's turn to dominate the game. Imagine they defeated a good Australian side in 2005. Playing in England is tough.

  • ramanan.ch on August 2, 2011, 20:03 GMT

    Now, can anyone tell any good names in the current team who has been brought to good from Dhoni? Don't say Kohli, Vijay, etc. These guys are indeed extremely good in India and Srilanka. But, not outside. You might have seen Kohli dancing in WI. The only young overseas player who could handle short bowling is Rohit Sharma and he is not in the test team yet. Unfortunately, he doesn't play well on subcontinent pitches like Kohli, Raina and for that reason being overlooked. And, people watch local cricket and score statistics talk too much about Kohli, etc and other IPL players. Raina is mentally a better player and strive hard to learn and adjust. He may come good. However, both Rohit Sharma should be given chance before Raina and Yuvraj. Also, we should do an emergency replacement for Harbhajan with some useful spinner .. To be continued..

  • ramanan.ch on August 2, 2011, 20:02 GMT

    Our Dada is dead right and again he is unlike the other softy(or scared) Indian commentators/players, doesn't hide up his emotions. His emotions are the same as the majority of the people of India at the moment about this team. Believe me, he is not a man to try to put strain on someone. He is just giving a wake up call which is necessary at the moment. Dhoni is enjoying his life with the players who were moulded/handed over by Ganguly in his time of captaincy. All these players Sehwag till Laxman at no 5, were players of his era gifted to Dhoni to claim the benefits down the years. Sehwag, Gambir and even Dhoni himself are players who were found and nurtured by Ganguly and his spirits to fight. Dhoni himself was better under Ganguly as a player. Dhoni lacks the spirit and thinking too much to talk about the post match conferences. If he has to, he has to think before and fight for the right team and preparations. To be continued..

  • indian_rockers_2015_champs on August 2, 2011, 19:58 GMT

    the reason for india's downfall is ipl .ban this ipl tournament just like icl .and time has come to drop dravid srt and laxman.........bring in virat,badrinath,rahane,pujara,rohit sharma..........

  • Noboundary on August 2, 2011, 19:55 GMT

    You are spot on regarding the players' fitness. As far as inability to face the rising delivery goes.. it continues to be a persistent woe of most Indian batsmen including yourself. Brought up on batsmen friendly pitches with very support to seamers we are unable cope with rising and bouncing deliveries! After IPL fitness seems to have a new definition.. if you are fit to bowl 4 overs in a day (2 each time) you are fit! Kapil used to bowl 20-30 overs at a stretch. I don't think anyone in the present team can do that!

  • Rezaul on August 2, 2011, 19:46 GMT

    Salute to Dada for being bang on target and exactly to the point. I hope the young Indian captain and selectors will take these words seriously for the sake of Indian cricket. It is crystal clear that though this test series was suppose to be very crucial for #1 rank, India's preparation was lacking intent and their body language on the field proves that. Throwing half fit Zaheer at Lords, asking Dravid to open, keeping vastly ineffective Harbhajan in the playing XI, young batters Raina/Mukund/Yuvi(not new) without being prepared enough for short balls were really silly from the #1 side.

  • Alexk400 on August 2, 2011, 19:38 GMT

    I can only laugh at the ganguly's observation. India underprepared is an weak excuse. Real reason is that india do not have opening partnership , mukund failed. Gambhir failed in first test , would have failed in 2nd test also. Jaffer would have done better. You need to be aggressive when things get dicey.Dravid , Sachin and VVS excel in old ball. Openers has to provide the team so other can excel. Also sachin century overhyped everything. you play to win not watch sachin make century. Also indian tail is very long. i have a feeling everyone want to get injured and run away. if dhoni has sachin brain , he would have got injured and relieved himself of this humilation. Unless sehwag does some miracle , it will be 4-0 down for india. you can consider first test for match preparation , what happen in 2nd test. Ganguly find another job that critiquing. You sucked against short ball. So do not comment on that pls. I still yet to hear one pundit say india should have gone with 4 fast bowler.

  • on August 2, 2011, 19:38 GMT

    1) Why is Saurav not talking about his dear friend 'harbajan' who is height of mediocrity, insecurity. Is it because ganguly was the same mediocre, big mouthed player in test career? 2) Saurav is talking about jaffer who is in mid 30's and again an average player, a saurav cadre. 3) Just 2 matches and people started questioning this batting line-up? why they fail to address that most of these guys are injured? While injury is attributed to IPL, over playing, question the system and not the individuals. 4) 'soft cricket'? so then, you want dhoni to remove his shirt when he wins and show the hard cricket? if so, he has done (win) it more times and more efficiently than any of former captains like you. 5) "You are 28, 29, 30, you won't get to play for India all your life" /// LOL no comments

    The fact is, we dont have sehwag and again, relying on one player is not the best thing. First place sack mediocre bajji, get a good spinner, rest zaheer, gambhir from upcoming ODI series.

  • on August 2, 2011, 19:33 GMT

    One and only problem - FITNESS. Just take a look at these players mid-section - most of them are carrying a belly around like middle-aged men. In contract look at the English players, all fit - they know if they don't shape up, they're shipped out. Most Indian players don't take fitness seriously - where's the support staff?. They get injured because of it - just take a look at Zaheer Khan's belly. The same goes for Sehwag. I am 59 and in better physical shape than these overpaid underachievers. Come on, grow a pair!

  • Angad11 on August 2, 2011, 19:28 GMT

    To be fair, though i like Dhoni, i hate his excuses. He sounds like that whinny old uncle who is not happy at something or the other. If he has any issues, he should go and talk to the respective board/person instead of crying in front of the media.

  • on August 2, 2011, 19:23 GMT

    I don't believe Indian cricket team deserves No.1 position. Until they have a good bowling and with age catching up to dravid,SRT and lax india's batting will also be like there bowling..

  • guntur_ap_ind on August 2, 2011, 19:23 GMT

    lack of discipline, preparation and willingness. You can tell by their body language how well they are committed to this series.Sourav does make sense.

    Yuvraj doesn't seem to belong to the test arena and so does Raina. India never looked like a NO:1 test team.You can clearly notice the difference when Australia and West indies are NO:1, they simply dominated. India never won convincingly for a period of time.India lacks that extra to become NO:1,you know that too. Though i am an Indian this is truth.

  • US_Indian on August 2, 2011, 19:19 GMT

    You are spot on Saurav, but on one point, which I cant agree with you is that Laxman is suited to 5/6, and telling all of us he is not a good player of swing, thats pure b/s. You were the guy who put him at that position, it is to his credit that he still made it big inspite of batting along with the tailenders otherwise he should have added atleast 50-75% more centuries to what he has already have and atleast 3000 runs. Now you are perfectly right that lack of preparation, no excuses at all, the weakness of tailenders while batting and our weakness at bowling to the opposition tailenders which usually takes the matches away which they often have in thier pockets. We miss Kumble the King very badly. I do not understand when you have technically pefect batsman like Jaffer why is that he is time and again ignored and in my opinion he should even take the place of Gambhir atleast in test. Instead of Saha as second WK it could have been either Parthiv or Karthick both WK and openers

  • FireBallXL14 on August 2, 2011, 19:16 GMT

    For once, I agree with Mr. Ganguly. Why not pick Wasim Jaffer as a backup opener?

  • Dhanno on August 2, 2011, 19:14 GMT

    Robayeth and others saying nice things about Ganguly : You do know he threw tantrums and sat out of test match because the pitch was little to green ?? Aussies would have bounced him out so he gave the reins to Dravid! I am not saying Dhoni is any better, he is mostly lucky with this team's good show till now. And basically he is not a test material by any standards (flat indian pitches maybe in 37C heat).

  • on August 2, 2011, 19:11 GMT

    I hope we don't forget the issues with one thumping Indian win in the next test match. The issues are: IPL/ODI Vs Test Match cricket, Player fitness levels, Non-performers must sit out regardless of their name: Dhoni has performed poorly in all 3 fields for 2 test matches running. It's OK to leave him out, even if for just 1 test, because INDIA is more important than Dhoni or Harbhajan or even Sachin. Get Dhoni out and Saha in. And why the hell didn't Sachin (or Yuvi) open in the test match? He does that in ODIs & IPL. That would have meant that 2 people (Dravid & Laxman) would have been able to bat in their positions. Especially relevant for Laxman, because of his technique and there's a big difference between #3 & #6.

    Summary: Team first, Individuals second. Test match first, Money second.

  • abs.liton on August 2, 2011, 19:10 GMT

    it is right words of Sourav. Some people laughed at sourav's comment on short ball. As a former captain and a player sourav can find out the problems of India's test matches, so he can provide information to the players... but some people laughed at sourav's comments on short ball. Sourav said it for the betterment of the team, rather he has no intention of anything. I think those people who can say like this they only know how to criticize others but they can not solve the problems and can not find out the way of solution.

  • on August 2, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    Sourav's concern is right..we must carry best expirenced batsman like wasim jaffer.dont know why harbhajan got the place in this test series where spin is not palying big role..

  • bumsonseats on August 2, 2011, 19:00 GMT

    i cannot understand all the selection problems it seems that if an opener is injured dravid is the one who has to move. golden boy tendulkar never seems to be asked or he just does not want to open, dravid has made it known he does not like opening, and laxman is batting higher than he should or wants. when the 1 dayers came along tendulkar has no problems facing up to the same bowlers then. me think something smells. dpk

  • inswing on August 2, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    It is just the bowling. With Zaheer in, you don't have Pieterson's double century in the first test, and you could well have a different outcome. The tail doesn't pile up runs in the second test and you again have a different outcome with Zaheer. The absence of Zaheer is compounded by bad bowling by Harbhajan. You cannot win a Test with three bowlers. India's three bowlers bowled well in spells, but go tired and could not sustain. That is the only reason for defeat, not the batsmen.

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:53 GMT

    I believe that what S.Ganguly is saying is right. To me the batting positions are wrong and having a young player like A.Mukund play in such an important matchis not right. I agree with S.Ganguly when he asked why dont the play Wasim Jaffer. In the past scorecards which I have seen, VVS did open batting but that was a long time ago, to me VVS should be coming in fourth or fifth. Finally, there is one player I would personally want back on the team, Irfan Pathan. His hand is with the ball and the bat.

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:51 GMT

    i have been saying the same thing that key Indian players chose IPL over country, sachin, dhoni, zaheer, gambhir, sehwag all chose to play for money instead of going WI. earlier all would bash me for these comments, and now i see a lot of people blaming IPL for this condition of their team! Wake up guys, its truth that IPls has had a bad effect on your team!i have been saying the same thing that key Indian players chose IPL over country, sachin, dhoni, zaheer, gambhir, sehwag all chose to play for money instead of going WI. earlier all would bash me for these comments, and now i see a lot of people blaming IPL for this condition of their team! Wake up guys, its truth that IPls has had a bad effect on your team!

  • VAS4 on August 2, 2011, 18:50 GMT

    Well said Dada! appalling performance from Indian team. I dont understand why the players always complain about over cricket! Do they not know that this is how it works in the international arena? the demands are high and the amount of cricket played is high. If they dont have the stamina, please ask for a break. I also hope Ganguly will be in the selection team soon. Dhoni and Harbhajan must take a break, and if they are not willing, drop them. Both of them have hit rock bottom. As someone said, Ishant bats better than Dhoni now a days. It was heartbreaking to watch India being bowled out in the afternoon. I have cancelled my sky channel, saving £45 a month. I urge all UK indian fans to do the same. We all should thank Ganguly for the Indian team's success as he is the one who nurtured, instilled confidence and belief in the team. Dhoni happened to be at the right place at the right time. In short, Lucky. That is all. Dhoni, Harbhajan must go. They are not invincible. Good luck India.

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:49 GMT

    Hope Wasim has seen this comment of him from Ganguly

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    it really seems now that india'll soon drop to no 5 or 6 in the test rankings,what to talk of maintaining the no 1 spot

  • meaur on August 2, 2011, 18:46 GMT

    I am disappointed how our team surrendered in these matches.The dismissals of some batsmen are very disturbing,Dhoni being the most disappointed.

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:42 GMT

    god give him MSD some break,he is also a good captain who speaks with open mind and not for media sake... just stop complaining and support our team guys..

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:40 GMT

    ok looking at the past performances this has been a good indian team. they have won many many interesting high profiled matches and shouldn't be judged VVS has been solid for the past 3 years the wall has always been to hold the line Lil master can never be touched and always delivers sehwag is just too good to be described harbhajan is a great spinner zaheer is the alpha wolf in the bowling wolf pack these players have set a foundation in this team. but the so-called young guns haven't lived up 2 their expectations. you see with these perfect players there ins't much to do with captaincy as ganguly will still and always be the best captain india ever had. he made sure these players were given the go! he did everything he could! MS dhoni is a good captain but what good is he if he can captain the tests but not bat at all properly? he is nt technically sound and weak against all kind of deliveries and heck no he cnt bowl either. for most of the time for a team of that calibre you don't

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    I think Ganguly is being too unkind. He is right Dhoni should not offer excuses and that the younger guys should take each opportunity seriously. But to talk about India's long-standing weaknesses against the bouncer is a bit ironic given his own well-known failings against the bouncer. I think Dhoni is correct that on many bouncier pitches in Durban, Perth etc, the Indian batsmen have fared reasonably well. The real issue in this test match was that the Indian team got a bit demoralized at how things went wrong starting with Yuvraj's dismissal, Harbhajan's unfair lbw decision, a swinging 1st ball yorker for Praveen Kumar, and Dravid's unfortunate slash going straight down the throat of 3rd man. Let us not forget cricket is a one-ball game and India had a series of unlucky 'one-balls' in that first inning. Perhaps one could argue Dravid needs to learn how to play better with tail-enders - he does not always need to protect them or try wildly to up the run rate but learn from Laxman

  • jayrkay on August 2, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    the frame work of loosing is not to be entirely blamed on MSD, keep in mind the indian selecting squad- a poor job, specially after Windies tour-a second string was sent to Caribeans. Blame game must stop and preparations be made for the rest of the tour-a Classical act by Indians to blame for the failures

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    Its time for a transition phase in Indian Cricket...honestly Sachin should retire now...he is no use to Indian cricket...life long he has played only for his personal achivements and not for the country. Whenever India needs to have a big knock from Sachin he doesnt perform. At Trent Bridge atleast big innings was expected in the first innings and that would have been the difference. Bhajji should sit out for atleast 6 months now. This is alarming for Dhoni as well. He doesnt spent time at the crease. He makes me feel like a Bangladeshi tail ender who comes in to bat at no 11 and plays his shots like anything n gone out. Now a days players are playing for money thy get there earnings in IPL so thy dont even care for playing for theirs country's pride. Really India missed spinner like Kumble.....

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:36 GMT

    It takes dignity and courage to accept one's own mistake ... Manjrekar, Shastri and Gavaskar don't have it ... India were outplayed in every department ... planning and preparation is part of the game ... the lack of which makes India the most undeserving #1 team ... True champions like Australia and West indies were capable of beating teams without key players ... India will never be true champions until they develop a threatening bowling attack instead of finding excuses like "jealousy" "under preparation" and "injuries"

  • Gocool87 on August 2, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    Dont consider this as jealosy. Ganguly has the right to express his emotions. He is right. You must also understand that Ganguly highly respect Dhoni..

  • Herath-UK on August 2, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    It is reported that Indian media has come hard against IPLas a reason for Indian failure.Finallythe ultimate truth seems to sink slowly in.It was Sri Lanka who suffered most due to IPL though some Indian fans did not agree with it when mentioned then;two whackings later,reason has been accepted. Ranil Herath _Kent

  • Roshanaara on August 2, 2011, 18:32 GMT

    Good response for the ever whining excuse making MSD. He is a typical cry baby Captain.

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:31 GMT

    Afzal Zakaria - It is nothing to do with subcontinent or England ...India simply played under Par and England Top class. As for overseas India is better than current England side so lets not go there. You can suck up and stay warm till your great team wins a series against WI in the first place.

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:30 GMT

    we all know, selectors know, everyone knows such an important tour and selectors and BCCI Officials and to certain extent selfish money hungry players should now be punished A.RAHANE, WASIM JAFFER, R.P.SINGH, PATHIV PATEL, V.B.AARON SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN PLACE OF MUKUND, MUNAF, YUVRAJ, SAHA, HARBHAJAN

  • landl47 on August 2, 2011, 18:26 GMT

    Perhaps there is some truth in what Ganguly says, but it also has to be said that a team only plays as well as its opposition allows it to play. This is a very good England team and even when a couple of its members don't perform as they can the strength is there to cover the shortcomings. In this Nottingham test, Tremlett was injured and didn't play, Trott and Swann were injured during the game and hardly contributed and Cook failed in both innings. Nevertheless, the other 8 players, not least the replacement, Bresnan, played so well that India were crushed. India were missing some players, but they had 11 fit men through the match. England just didn't let them perform well enough to win. It will be interesting to see whether Sehwag, Zaheer and Gambhir make any difference to India; my own view is they won't. I believe this Indian side is just not as good as England.

  • JoseDavis on August 2, 2011, 18:24 GMT

    I think Dhoni was retaining his place in the Indian team only for his captancy. There are many good wicket keeprs in India who can bat better than Dhoni. Now his captancy is also exposed. Selectors can think about other options.

  • river77 on August 2, 2011, 18:21 GMT

    @afzal zakariah Let India worry about its players/stats/form what not, U and ur kind needs to go back to worrying about the sorry excuse of a team called bangladesh, Ireland deserves the opportunity bangladesh got with our help. India has already done it all - t20/wc/test1/l thru hard work and perseverance. Get your country in the same league of champs and maybe then we'll listen.

  • Deepfreezed on August 2, 2011, 18:19 GMT

    Yes, Dhoni's excuses are lame and makes the team soft. India lost, learn form it and move on. Making excuses does no good.

  • m_ilind on August 2, 2011, 18:18 GMT

    I can see four changes to the Indian team for the 3rd test at Edgbaston: Viru for Mukund, Gambhir for Raina/Yuvi, Zak for Ishant, and Amit Mishra for Bhajji. Ishant needs a break as he looked out of form after carrying heavy workload since the tour of WI. Mishra deserves a chance over Bhajji, as he has lot of variations in his bowling, and frankly he can't be worse than Bhajji at present. As we saw in WI, Bhajji nowadays seems to be effective only on fifth day pitches. Viru may not be match fit, but he is an experienced player, and can adjust very quickly as we have seen in the past. Yuvi is probably not match fit either, but he is a match winner. And finally, MS needs to improve his keeping!

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:18 GMT

    The England grounds does not seem to be a spinner friendly & I have no idea why Harbajan is playing. India can use a extra batsman or may be use a fast bowler instead. All I can say is Poor selection!!!

  • rsurya on August 2, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    well said dada. this is not an excuse. A fighting loss will be well interpreted by the cricket lovers, but India were never been a fighting force. I wonder how they got up to no1 spot. This is not because India lost the two games, its because they didnt fought well. one bowling allrounder should emerge. No dhoni can help India after this 4 retire.sehwag, dravid sachin laxman. No long term planning in the selection India need a replacement for dravid only player playing like dravid is badrinath but he is not given enough chances. Mukund is not confident rohit sharma may become a reserve opener if given chance. Ganguly is the best captain Ive seen though we won the worldcup its not convincing, we are not dominant. we live with stats.

  • nadu_1975 on August 2, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    Sourav is spot on. Everything he has said here and also at the commentary box is rock solid man. Why does Mr Dhoni does not take a leaf out if it.

  • Flash007 on August 2, 2011, 18:15 GMT

    Wow! Someone finally doing some straight talk and ppl are now commenting abt Ganguly's susceptibility against short balls! Wake up dudes! This guy even though uncomfortable with bouncers, fought till the end of his career. Even though the whole world knew his weakness, it did not stop him from scoring heavily in England and some great fighting knocks in Australia and South Africa. And not even Greg Chappel could stop him from make one of the greatest comebacks ever! Its not abt how well/bad he handled short stuff...its abt how hard he fought to overcome them and survived. That is not called 'weakness' my friends...its called 'character'. Bottomline...One of the best No.6 batsmen for India ever and still no one to replace him. No one's got more right to criticize our team than he does. Enuff said.

  • critic7 on August 2, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    You were part of Indian Cricket Team , you know how much average runs you have scored compared to likes of other all rounder (kallis) and many other. Yes you are still better player of short and swing balls. Better train some lads rather than pinpointing the team members.

  • cking on August 2, 2011, 18:11 GMT

    I DONT WANT TO SAY A LOT OTHER THAN THAT INDIA HAS TONS OF TALENT THE ONLY PART THAT MISSING IS AN EYE OF A TIGER MEANING THE KILLER INSTINCT AND IN MY OPINION WHOLE INDIAN TEAM NEED TO LOCK UP AND WATCH STALLONE'S ROCKY PART 3 AND 4 AND LEARN HOW TO GET UP WHEN YOU ARE DOWN AND WRITTEN OFF BY EVERYONE. AND FOR ALL INDIAN FANS SUPPORT YOUR TEAM THIS IS HIGH TIME WHEN THEY NEED YOU. MARK MY WORDS SEHWAG, SACHIN, ZAHEER WILL COME OUT FIRING IN THE NEXT ONE AND WE WILL WIN AND RETAIN OUR TITLE.

  • Alexk400 on August 2, 2011, 18:08 GMT

    I am shocked at people who think england lower order batting is better. The reason is simple. In Test you need bowler who can bowl fast yorker to get rid of tail. No one likes ball to hit their toe. we all know tail do not have same bat speed. Indian bowlers are tired because we only use 3 bowlers instead of 4. In Indian condition bhaji bowls 4--50 overs that gives breathing time for other 3. In overseas india should not take specialist spinner. The Tail would be gone in no time against malinga or steyn. It is just that indian bowlers are swinging for sure. But sharma is utter waste. he hs to be fast 150kmph or he is just useless journeyman.

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:07 GMT

    I agree with Ganguly, Dhoni needs to stop making stupid execuses. We need a change like bringing W Jaffer, Akash Choppra. Dhoni, Harbhjan, Mukund should be dropped from the lineup.

  • Iyer on August 2, 2011, 18:06 GMT

    Look all you dhoni fans out there may not like what i say, but the truth is dhoni is not fit for test matches, especially overseas in testing conditions. I am not saying this just because we are losing a series, I have been telling this even when we were winning series. Dhoni was getting under the cloud, when we were winning. No one dared to introspect his poor batting technique. Similarly, harbhajan singh - only god, harbhajan, dhoni and the selection committee know why harbhajan is a permanent fixture in this team. That guy cannot turn a ball until there are cracks or holes in the pitch! period! Until we start selecting a team based on current form, opponent, playing conditions etc. we are not going to get the right combination. Also when we win, dont forget to analyse who didn't play well. Then last but not the least, select players who are hungry to play for the nation, and not selfish cricketers who want to look after their future, fame, and money.

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:06 GMT

    Selectors should still consider sending Wasim Jaffer to play the next two tests. This will help Gambhir to recover in time for the CLT20 as well as new SRK commercial shoots for various corporations.

  • raad007 on August 2, 2011, 18:04 GMT

    INDIA IS THE WORST TEAM EVER, FIRST THE INDIAN CRICKET BOARD RULES OUT THE DRS FORM FOR LBW AND NOW THEY GET OUT IN LBW BUT THEY CANNOT REVIEW FOR IT. I DONT KNOW HOW THEY GOT TO BR THE WORLD CHAMPIONS AND NUMBER ONE TEST TEAM BUT I GUESS SHARET POWER HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT BECAUSE HE IS INDIAN AND HE IS DOING WHAT BCCI IS TELLING HIM NIT WHAT THE ICC IS SUPPOSED TO DO. SHARET POWER IS ALSO TRYING TO MAKE INDIA LIKE A BIG CRICKET TEAM LIKE ENGLAND AND AUSTRALIA BUT THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE INDIA CANNOT PLAY CRICKET, ALL THEY KNOW IS HOW TO ACT RUDE WITH UMPIRES AND MAKE EXCUSES

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:04 GMT

    I want to ask one thing. Why everyone saying that MS Dhoni makes india to win World Cup? India won world cup because of the team work. Where Yuvraj, Sachin, Kohli, Gambhir played the unforgettable innings where as MS DHoni played welll only in final. Collness doesn't makes you the best captain. You have to perform by side and for that you have to take some interval from international tours and must play domestic to improve your forms.

  • westindiancanadian on August 2, 2011, 18:04 GMT

    Umesh, you need to decipher optimism and realism. Dhoni did indeed win the world cup for India and should forever be praised for that but this si a different format of the game. Preparations for test cricket as opposed to one dayers requires a new batting style, a new temparament, a new technique and a unified mode of thinking. MS as the leader clearly hoped for individual excellence but nobody stood up and took on the challenge. These are professional cricketers and Dada is absolutely right.....if you are not up to it, DON'T PLAY! I know it is their livelihood so by all means earn as much as you can when you have the window but batting in IPL's wickets and then batting in dead WEst Indies wickets (except Jamiaca) is no way to prepare for a swinging ball and bouncy pitch. Clearly England was prepared and for lack of a better phrase, put a major SPANKING on India. India should be humbled and play with their heart behind them. This exhibition looks like they just don't care about Numer 1

  • kevinpp24 on August 2, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    Andy Flower said "They(Eng) train hard enough to believe they deserve some success." Thats absolutely true, if you work so hard you will perform atleast to the make the hardwork meaningful.

  • gung-ho on August 2, 2011, 18:01 GMT

    @smkurian - comments about the short ball, cracked you up, eh? You know what cracks me up? You (as in someone who has probably never played cricket with a cricket ball), making wisecracks at Sourav (who was the captain of the Indian team and possibly, one of the greatest one day batsmen ever). Sourav is right in his analysis -- if you play for your national side and if you make the kind of money the Indian cricketers make, looking jaded and ill prepared to handle the short ball is not an excuse.

  • gerardpereira20 on August 2, 2011, 18:00 GMT

    England are on the ascendency. India having reached the pinnacle are on the way down. Like Australia, and the West Indies there are only tough times ahead for India once the big names retire. At least the Aussies have that natural fighting sprit. The Indians who have got fat on IPL cash haven't got the belly for the fight. Raina, Kholi, Rohit Sharma, Mukund, and Vijay all have a weakness against the short ball. Without a strong India, test cricket will be dead in a few years. India fans used to the likes of Laxman, Dravid, Ganguly, Tendulkar and Kumble will not accept any less. The IPL is killing Indian cricket and International cricket will follow

  • Dave_Chatterjee on August 2, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    Sourav is absolutely right. Indian team management, BCCI and the team itself needs complete renovation from scratch. I think they should think themselves that they are at the bottom of the table and slowly try building up to Number 1 spot again. If it requires heads to roll of some senior and greatest of players, let it happen.

  • zuber21886 on August 2, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    Changes doesn't come in one day, lots of stuff is to be said out there by millions of Indians, but only those are heard which are said by any celebrity, like this one came from Sourav Ganguly, this is very well said, but it will be only worthy, when correct changes do take place

  • shefil on August 2, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    well said about indian Tail enders ,.... they dont know the value of wicket... Dhoni's batting in good bowling pitches are not so good...captancy is the factor give him mileage in Team India....

  • High_on_Cricket on August 2, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    To retain the top spot, what India desperately needs now are the following:

    1. A proper test captain who can lead with on field performances and not with off the field antics. 2. A number 6 batsman who is not a bunny to the short ball 3. A spinner with the guts to go for the loop and flight variations 4. A tour planner with some cricket sense and not someone doubling up as a travel agent. 5. A strict disciplinary action system to punish ftiness cases like Zaheer.

    The reality is that not one of them will happen in a couple of years or so, let alone before the 3rd test. and by then, the famous trio will retire ...and we can all happily forget about Indian test cricket for a while !!

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    ganguly did hav problems wit the short balls but tat dint mean he failed al the time overseas!! remember he scored in his 1st ever test mtch at lords and continued to score heavily overseas against the likes of aus eng and SA and over a period of time ganguly did overcome the problem of facin short balls....... and he s absolutely rite.......probably ganguly is hinting at the players prefering IPL over the national team!! and hes true abt tat!! moreover india had been too defensive against eng in tis series which ll nt help our team s cause one bit!! too bad fr a no1 ranked team!!

  • OnAPair on August 2, 2011, 17:55 GMT

    Funny that Ganguly calls Wasim Jaffer a "kid". He is just 5 years younger to Dada

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:54 GMT

    I remember MS himself saying back in 2007 that he reads Cricinfo regularly. I really hope he reads this article and so does the rest of the Indian squad. While I agree that Dhoni is a great captain, he lacks one firepower, Dada used to have.

  • Bobby_Talyarkhan on August 2, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    "what's wrong with Wasim Jaffer? What wrong has that kid done"? No wrong at all Dada - his misfortune is to be a good test match player and that is not good enough for the parvenus of the BCCI who value IPL and ODI here-today-gone-tomorrow celebrities more. Jaffer had one bad series against Brett Lee & co and was forgotten about - how many chances has Raina had? The amazing thing is that they thought Mukund could do the job!! On what basis? On this basis - that he scored 140 odd runs in 6 innings against the WEST INDIES!!! vijay and mukund are given chances while Jaffer sits in Mumbai twiddling his thumbs. kris srikant had a beautiful dream - that vijay and mukund were going to be the new sehwag and gambhir!!! Jaffer is a proper player - he knows how to construct an innings, how to read the situation and bat appropriately, how to take account of the conditions and the opposition. No wristier batsman exists in India outside Hyderabad yet he has been consigned to the dustbin by bcci!

  • duba on August 2, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    Short ball stuff, chin music..... if Harsha bhogle had commented on these stuffs will u people start crticising harsha bhogle saying "Do you know to handle?"...

    if you cant handle short ball stuff doesnt meant u cannot comment about short ball stuff.....

    Moreover, sourav is in the heart of billion people coz of his aggression, captaincy, down the track hitting, making a strong point that India can away matches....

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    Dada lecturing youngsters on short ball? What an irony.

  • Alexk400 on August 2, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    Sourav Ganguly is a hypocrite. He is not pointing real reason behind india's loss. Dhoni is greatest captain. He lacked tools he can depend on. Only dravid does respond for the team. Sachin is useless under pressure condition. I am not fan of dhoni selection of bhaji or any spinner , but there are people in india waiting for dhoni to fail, so they can attack him. dhoni rely heavily on sehwag , dravid and bhaji and zaheer khan. For me biggerst reason for india loss is that it fail to adjust for new conditions and attack. For me attach is best form of defense. He could have send bhaji do slam bang against new ball. if it clicked , inida could have draw. I am feeling that no one ready to take calculated risk even now. I think india most probably go 4-0 down. Sehwag presence may help sachin score his century because less pressure is applied. Sachin in excel when no one care about him including opposition.

  • SRAM20 on August 2, 2011, 17:47 GMT

    Look at who's talking about Indian batsmen failing against short pitched deliveries? Until the end of his career, Ganguly was almost a sitting duck against short pitched bowling. And he has the audacity to talk about the Yuvraj's and Raina's not playing short balls well?

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:46 GMT

    there's nothing wrong in what ganguly is telling. he was truly an intelligent as well as an aggressive captain. people shouldnt forget that its under his captaincy that we started winning tests and one day matches abroad which used to happen only once in a blue moon 2-3 decades ago.

  • TheGecko on August 2, 2011, 17:43 GMT

    These are sad days for an Indian cricket fan, and I've been gloomy and angry at the team for letting everyone down with their performance, but this has cracked me up big time! Ha! Ha! Ha! Look who is taking about getting out to a short ball;-)

  • riyaz28 on August 2, 2011, 17:43 GMT

    Yes Saurav you are right and Dhoni should resign his captaincy from test cricket, coz he dnt knw what is test cricket, he knows only IPL and in one-day cricket he depends on luck... Techncially he is a zero in test cricket. He plays his best in Asia only on a flat pitches and zero on swinging pitches, and about his captaincy he own matches against a weaker teams not with good teams like Aus, SA, and ENG...We need an agrresive captain like Ganguly not like Dhoni...I think, right now Gautam Gambir or Virender Sehwag are the best persons to choose as a captain of our Indian team... BCCI needs to think about this....and where is RP Singh??? he is one of our best fast baller in India, unless chosing Munaf Patel, RP Singh should need to select in test cricket... He is a better baller in these conditions... RP Singh deserves place in Indian team, I dnt know why he is not selected in this tour...???

  • pkolluri on August 2, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    India needs to rethink its strategy. Maintaining number one status is not easy. We have seen what it took Australia to stay on top. Consistent performances from great cricketers like Warne, Steve Waugh, Ponting, Mcgrath, Langer etc was required. In Indian team the biggest problem is that they are overwhelmed with glory, fanfare, advertising, high revenues from IPL and the quality is always a question. They perform occasionally well and majority of the times under perform. Good example is the first two tests played now. Barring Laxman and Dravid, there is no player having the meat to stand up and play good cricket. Change your team, attitude and strategy to succeed India or else you will find yourself in company of Bangladesh and West Indies very soon.

  • riyaz28 on August 2, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    Yes Saurav you are right and Dhoni should resign his captaincy from test cricket, coz he dnt knw what is test cricket, he knows only IPL and in one-day cricket he depends on luck... Techncially he is a zero in test cricket. He plays his best in Asia only on a flat pitches and zero on swinging pitches, and about his captaincy he own matches against a weaker teams not with good teams like Aus, SA, and ENG...We need an agrresive captain like Ganguly not like Dhoni...I think, right now Gautam Gambir or Virender Sehwag are the best persons to choose as a captain of our Indian team... BCCI needs to think about this....and where is RP Singh??? he is one of our best fast baller in India, unless chosing Munaf Patel, RP Singh should need to select in test cricket... He is a better baller in these conditions... RP Singh deserves place in Indian team, I dnt know why he is not selected in this tour...???

  • samudralakiku on August 2, 2011, 17:39 GMT

    Well said Sourav. Spot on. Selectors should start looking at non performers and start dropping players like Harbhajan, then the team will start performing.

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:38 GMT

    WHAT ALL THE FUSS ABOUT INDIAN FANS HAD IT ALL HYPED UP INDIA IS GR8 IN THE SUB CONTINENT FLAT PITCHES ...HERE THEY ARE EXPOSED BADLY. I HAVE GOT AN IDEA SIR JEE ONLY INVITE PEOPLE IN YOUR BACK YARD THAT WAY INDIA CAN HOLD ON TO THEIR 1# RANKING LOLZ

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:35 GMT

    Now the Great indian Captain understands that DHONI is the biggest EXCUSEMAKER in Cricket History. Ganguly had Never made excuses for any defeat..that why i like him,,,and he is still the Greatest indian Captain.

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:33 GMT

    Ganguly seems to be hitting the nail hard and his dead right about whatever he said. India have been too complacent, reaching no.1 is great but maintaining that spot is even more difficult and somehow I feel India lacks backup players. Too much dependence on senior and key players. This is a team game not individual.

  • Kanoon_Ka_Rakhwala on August 2, 2011, 17:32 GMT

    I have always maintained that Jaffer should be amongst the mix, especially when we are on a tour. He is by far one of the most technically correct opener in today's game. All this regional favoritism will never help elevate the team as a whole. Hopefully, sense will prevail and he will be taken as a back-up opener later in the year to Australia. I also hope Pujara is fit for that tour, and there has to be serious consideration to include or slowly get Rahane into the mix. Kohli, Pujara, Rahane are the future to me, with Raina as back-up.

  • StatisticsRocks on August 2, 2011, 17:31 GMT

    Dhoni please stop makinbg excuses as India is totally outclassed by a surging English team. Instead give credit to this English team the way they are bowling, batting fielding. I have never heard Dhoni giving credit where it is deserved. It's ok to lose to a better team, but don;t give excuses.

  • StatisticsRocks on August 2, 2011, 17:29 GMT

    Well said Dada. Right on the money. I wish you were still the captian of this team. India cannot use too much cricket as an excuse. Who asked these players top play in IPL? I just don;t get that. SRT a legend, chose to play IPL over WI tour. He thought scoring his 100th century against WI would not have the same effect as scoring agaibst ENG. Utter disrespect to theyoung WI team who showed so much heart. This defies logic to me. How much Money does he needs now? ZAK could have rested instead of playing IPL and then gone to the WI. Those who toured WI are the ones who are performing. Thanks to the WALL India is at least scoring 200 runs if not 300. We need to learn fro this English team. Look at their fitness level, their commitment, and if one fails the other shows up. That is how this game is supposed to be played. Too much Money and hype and this is what happens. Some of the players in this Indian team think they are invinvible and they don;t need any practise. Wake Up.

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:27 GMT

    some former captains are jealous of m s dhoni,as he won the world cup for us.At that time they didn't get an oppurtunity to say about m s.but now as he lost 2 matches,they started blaming him.They should know that it is only m s dhoni who made INDIA,the no. 1 side in the world.No matter,mahi will answer them by his captaincy...just wait and watch

  • Suresh8320 on August 2, 2011, 17:27 GMT

    Ganguly was one of greatest captain for india; In his era, we started to win the games in overseas; His emotions right; If he should be our team india coach, we will get greatest coach for india; Instead of relying on some other country person, why cant gangully could take up the coach...As a coach, he needs to give the energy; encourage; motivation;fun; friendly environment; gud administration; right planning to team and all individual players...I hope these qualities are missing now in this series itself we can see..and these qualities was there when kirsten as a coach....We can get again if gangully comes as a coach for team india...

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:25 GMT

    I agree with what Ganguly said. I did not understand why was W Saha was taken as second wicket keeper and no back up opener when Sehwag is not playing first two Tests. Dhoni is simple telling excuses which is not acceptable. In West Indies, there was no Zaheer Khan, Sachin Tendulkar, Yuvaraj Singh and Gambhir. I do not understand why Dhoni keeps on looking at players who are out of form. In my view Harbhajan Singh need to be rested and look at Ashwin, Amit Mishra and P Ohja. Why R P Singh was ignored, I did not understand. why hurrying up players like Zaheer or Sehwag when they are recovering from injure. Who is making these rubbish selections, I do not understand. In my view Raina will never learn to play the short pitch deliver properly ever. This weakness is easily being exploited by ever team. Laxman has good record at number 5 only. 3 is not his proper area and why can't Dhoni come at that place, what is the point he coming so late.

  • smkurian on August 2, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    All of Sourav's comments are pretty acceptable and have to be taken with a grain of salt. But the short ball comments really cracked me up. This comes from a former India captain who was totally clueless and all-at-sea against the short ball. Any suggestions Mr. ex-captain?

  • SettingSun on August 2, 2011, 17:21 GMT

    Irony - Sourav Ganguly bemoaning India's failings against the short ball. Awesome.

  • AshokSB on August 2, 2011, 17:18 GMT

    Loosing two test match back to back is not going to change anything in India. Whatever u all ppl commented worst on indian team, it doesn't matter. Show is not over yet. Two more matches to come. And its important to India. Watch those.

  • pradeep_uv on August 2, 2011, 17:16 GMT

    Well said Dada. Very Inspirational, every cricketer must realise that they have got an excellent opportunity to represent India pushing behind many young guns who are dreaming for a chance.

  • ronson333 on August 2, 2011, 17:16 GMT

    Ganguly for cheif selector, get rid of srikkanth(and he can take Mukand, Vijay , badri etc with him)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • squaddy on August 2, 2011, 17:14 GMT

    lol... ths is craZy! well they barely beat the west indies how can they go to England and win! I think India has the worst bowling attack in test cricket. if one should add the west indies bowling line up to this indian side "Edwards, roach, taylor" along with Habajan it would be a much better attack. they batting is good but not great with Tendulkar n Dravid being the exceptions. If they fail and Laxman doesn't come to the party then who will? Dhoni is no text cricketer, he should stick to limited overs cricket and give the captincy to habajan. I love India but not in test cricket. Go England go!!!

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:06 GMT

    Wonderful thing, time. Tends to so shorten memories.. could anyone show Mr. Ganguly some videos of how he used to handle any chin music - or anything above his chest - during his career? Some of his points are valid though - the team was horribly underprepared. The BCCI needs to fast make up its mind whether it at all wants to send teams for bilateral Test series especially against the top teams. Today it is England, tomorrow it will be Australia, the next day it will be South Africa. Any of the top 3 teams will enjoy playing against this Indian team. This team is #1 only when all key players are available, and that is not going to always happen. Till the time we have backup players for Zaheer, backup batsmen ready to walk into the team we will be like this - intermittently brilliant, but for the most part (because most of the time someone or the other will be unavailable due to illness or injury) just about average or good (depending on the criticality of the player)

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:04 GMT

    Spot on, no nonsense observation...

  • rlefti on August 2, 2011, 17:03 GMT

    Great comments dada just like your commentary, spot on and criticising no less or no more....I think people of India are tired of listening dhoni excuses day in and day out....it's good sometimes just to say we were not good....

  • RahulBhaskaranpinarayi on August 2, 2011, 17:03 GMT

    too much of cricket is exuse englnd also playing after sreelanka but they are well prepared in their home soil also in confident wise.i think danklen fleatcher not suited coach for india . gari was the best( BCCI have to use their money power to retain him) now hearing that he i trying in SA coach.Wasim jafer and dinesh karthik is better suited for england than abinav mukund and writhiman saha it was a bad selection. the intesting thing i wanted to know wheather sachin will play in the oneday seres aginst england or he take break?.Harbajan shold be replaced with amit misra .if youvaraj and rain is playing 11 then youvaraj shold bat up the order.laxman is not suited to no 3 in england seaming contition so dhoni can be pramoted to no 3 and he has little bit of sahwag in his batting also agrasive so run will come. he is not doing any thing in no 7 he is better batsman than that. if sahir is fit who will be out ? A SPINNER or sreesanth or delhi pacer> play with 4 QUICKEY ia a good option.

  • Gupta.Ankur on August 2, 2011, 17:02 GMT

    I think Dada has been spot in his assessment, but wait a minute! wasn't guilty of doing all this himself as a player?

  • wnwn on August 2, 2011, 16:57 GMT

    These guys need to play some county cricket in England to get used to the bouncing, swinging conditions instead of playing IPL on flat tracks. That is the only way that they will improve their technique. Remember that most grounds around the world apart from the sub continent have something in them for bowlers so you can't run away from bounce and swing.

  • likeintcricket on August 2, 2011, 16:55 GMT

    Sehwag and Gambhir can make a difference but under seaming conditions its a difficult job. England two openers are not in a good form either. They are excellent players and once in form they are very hot to handle. Also they are missing collingwood and Trimlet and Swan. England can bat right up to the end that is why it is hard to get them out twice. Only some very classy spinner like Warne and Murali can make a difference. I wish good luck to Zaheer, Gambhir and Sehwag but with this kind of form, England is hard to beat. If they are able to draw the next two test that will be an achievement.

  • on August 2, 2011, 16:54 GMT

    Forget about the Indian lower order.The reality is England lower order batsmen has outclassed Indian top order.This is a team which totally depends upon Dravid Tendulkar and Laxman who are on the verge of their retirement,just imagine the future of Indian test team.Tough times waiting for India and "captain cool" who is the lowest run scorer in this series out of 22 players.The one who say that Dhoni is a great captain, I may ask how many test series we have won "overseas" under the captaincy of Dhoni?...just 1..against West-Indies (a team ranking no.8 in ICC)..and that too how..1-0.of 3 tests...no intent of winning a test match at all. how he can be great..?..just because he is lucky and cool ?he is not cool,he is totally unaggressive. wake up silly fans of Dhoni..and wake up BCCI..This is just an alarm...and remember I m only talking about test matches.

  • on August 2, 2011, 16:52 GMT

    Well said Ganguly!! They cannot afford to loose two test because of lack of preparation........They are stuck with the sick mentality of IPL where they hit 50 runs of around 30 balls because of lack of good bowling and small boundaries.........Same on Raina and MSD who batted so strongly in IPL.....Get the heck out of IPL and play some intentional cricket......Learn from Dravid..........

  • on August 2, 2011, 16:43 GMT

    Its easy to criticise when we fall behind expectations. India is still No.1 and remains No.1 Goodluck India!

  • on August 2, 2011, 16:40 GMT

    I like Dada for his fearless and balanced views. Unlike other past cricketers who see every defeat as an opportunity to pounce upon the cricketers and the ones who consciously make an effort to remain on the good books of BCCI, Dada is a whiff of fresh air, with a non partisan and balanced analysis of things, not for nothing, he is the most successful Indian test captain

  • lallu555 on August 2, 2011, 16:35 GMT

    Very good analysis and comments from Sourav Ganguly. I like this ""I'm too fed up hearing this "". Yes, that is right, you are a NO 1 team in world test cricket and you should be playing with more dedication and commitment for keeping the NO 1 ranking. Preparations are very bad from India team for the series.

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on August 2, 2011, 16:33 GMT

    Well said Ganguly. Don't tolerate any excuses. 319 run defeat cannot have any excuses, especially when you've had the best of the conditions. Aus play almost as much and they are mature enough to skip Big Bash and also hardly ever make excuses. The #1 quote is "we were outplayed" leave it at that.

  • cgtboy87 on August 2, 2011, 16:33 GMT

    you are so rite boss.tell them like it is.

  • Sashank_sharma on August 2, 2011, 16:30 GMT

    Excellent Saurav. Nicely said. Even m tired of listening excuses. Its time to perform and block them from snatching our throne which we have well defended for 2.5 yrs...

  • ManharPatelGujrati on August 2, 2011, 16:28 GMT

    MSD is over rated player. Take skipper job away from him. He will struggle to get his spot in a side. Dravid, Laxman, Sachin and Harbhajan should retire immediately. Let young boys take over from now. Why we need all senior players?

  • on August 2, 2011, 16:28 GMT

    if you really think ur playing too much cricket, stop playing in the IPL...everyone is fit during the IPL but when it comes to playing for India everybody has some injury or the other..U don't see a single Indian player missing the IPL...sehwag,gambhir they have injuries when they've got to represent their country.. but during the IPL they are absolutely fine..there are guys like stuart broad, michael clark, mitchell johnson who don't play for IPL at all and do well for their country..but our guys they just can't miss one edition of IPL...I've got nothing against IPL but they really can't show the amount of cricket being played as an excuse for such a poor display

  • Jithinvsjj on August 2, 2011, 16:28 GMT

    dada...u said it....its not an excuse by telling theres no time between matches.....if hes doesnt want it tell him to quit, theres plenty of young talents waiting for a chance who just love to play....one more thing,,,,,why Mr Bhajji in the team.....he is really an useless in this lineup....atleast try Mishra in the remaining series....he will be more than useful comparing him with bhajji.....

  • s382412 on August 2, 2011, 16:26 GMT

    Cent % agreed with Ganguly outburst against Team India. In spite of continuos failure from Murli Vijay and Abhinav Mukund Don't understand why the Selection committee Picked up Mukund for England's Tour. Wasim Jaffer is still doing well in domestic cricket and lot of cricket left in him. He still 32 yrs. Importantly he has performed against all teams that include 5 hundreds. Just a series failure against Australia selection committee side line him. That's a poor cricket by BCCI bosses. For the sack of younger one's sacrificing talented cricketers...... I am sure the likes of Murlis, Mukunds, Rainas, Yuvis are not for test cricket they are more suited in 20/20 or one day cricket. In a test cricket one needs lot of patience, sound technique, ability to face all kind of bowling. Give some try to likes of Rohit sharma and give a chance to those like Jaffer who have proved their metal on international cricket

  • scoopster35 on August 2, 2011, 16:26 GMT

    Yuvraj's bottle gone? Where's your spirit India?

  • rustyryan on August 2, 2011, 16:25 GMT

    We miss you DADA. Dhoni's luck has run out of the gas. I still remember the trent bridge match in 2002 when dravid, sachin and dada scored centuries. No idea why no one questions Dhoni's test place. Cudn remember the last time he played a substantial innings in a test match against quality attack.

  • Thegreatgame on August 2, 2011, 16:25 GMT

    Aptly put Sourav. The Indian team was indeed hamstrung by injuries to the key players but that is no excuse for the rest of the players to not show any stomach for the fight. They've had the rare privilege to represent their country. Thousands would gladly sacrifice anything to be in their shoes. Indeed the time for excuses is past. I really hope the Indian team pull up their socks now and show what they are really capable of.

  • getsetgopk on August 2, 2011, 16:24 GMT

    This whole article makes sense apart from "The series and the No. 1 ranking are still not lost for India".

  • ElPhenomeno on August 2, 2011, 16:23 GMT

    Can't help but agree with Ganguly. This "too much cricket" excuse in not going to fly anymore, certainly not in the face of IPL when these guys jump up and down to get themselves the highest bidder.

    You know what's at stake, have some pride for god's sake. I will give Indians the benefit of the doubt that they were missing their 3 most influential players for basically first 2 tests. Lets see how they do now when those 3 are back. There will be no hiding then.

    As for england, their batting has been excellent the way their tail is going about scoring runs. Essentially 10 out of 11 of their players are coming up with a purpose and look like scoring more than 20-30 runs. That makes it very difficult for indians.

    The only relief for the indians has been the spin wizardry of the "world's best spinner" which has been a non facter as I said it would be. :)

  • AjaySridharan on August 2, 2011, 16:15 GMT

    ha ha...Ganguly talking about the handling the short ball! At least, he is doing his job as a commentator really well

  • kumarcoolbuddy on August 2, 2011, 16:14 GMT

    This is utter batting failure from VVS, Sachin, Dhoni, Raina and partly Dravid. I donno what is wrong in replacing Bhajji for one match. I don't say this is critical but I definitely also blame ENG media and players (Ian Botham, Michale Vaughan etc) and ENG coach Andy Flower for creating all psychological dramas. I totally agree that India had performed very badly like impotents but at the same time I hate such tours with mind games. I didn't know that #1 ranking mania makes team like ENG so desperate.

  • on August 2, 2011, 16:14 GMT

    ok agree they did not play well....but look who is speaking about short pitch stuff...:D

  • adith_thegod on August 2, 2011, 16:11 GMT

    So even Ganguly has started what he hated during his playing days - sit at home and give expert opinions slamming the players. Agreed most of his points are valid, but this is the time to support your team. Mr ganguly, you should be knowing that better than anyone else, for you have been in worse positions. Remember the 2000 whitewash in Australia? Remember the 2007 World Cup? And lol dada, you talking about short balls? HAHAHAHA!

  • RajVVSardentfan on August 2, 2011, 16:09 GMT

    Ganguly is dead right in his comments on India's lousy preparations for a major tour of England. He is absolutely spot on with his acerbic remarks but it sounds a bit pathetic when he comments about handling short balls. He is right in saying that the younger generation Indian Batsmen should be well equipped in playing short balls in the long run. Good advice but he himself was never comfortable with the short balls and we never saw any improvements in his technique to play the short rising balls in his entire test career. What a joke ??? Easy to give free advises but hard to implement those?

  • on August 2, 2011, 16:07 GMT

    Dada knows about this team very well than anybody else and he makes sense. The excuse given by dhoni is totally unaccepatable, if this condition prevails then India will no longer be a champion team.

  • on August 2, 2011, 16:05 GMT

    The problem is not with India losing their two tests....the problem lies in the manner in which they lost them......top sides have reserves as strong as their main playing 11....who can easily spearhead many rival team attacks.......Test cricket depends on tenacity,temperament and patience....wonder how BCCI has forgotten all the basics as it is so busy raking up the moolah with t20 and ODI series all over the world....with their main objective of shaping slam band cricketers.............instead of technically correct batsmen and bowlers............

  • sultanofhyd on August 2, 2011, 16:03 GMT

    Ganguly talking about short ball weakness, really?

  • on August 2, 2011, 16:01 GMT

    I agree with dada about the fact that indian batsmen were taking shortcut root by simply hooking the bouncers aimed at them hence throwing their wickets. These were the areas they were susceptible in the past also.They have to come out of the T20 mode and try to make an effort to stay at the crease as long possible. Dhoni should not give a single chance to england team at edgebaston as he did at nottingham through which they came back strongly and eventually won it.I hope india shows courage and character to save the pride of india.Good luck india.

  • JustOUT on August 2, 2011, 15:58 GMT

    Dada... your having Diwali from Commentary box. Your statements are 100% valid, but some were always present with the Indian team even during your playing days. You'r SPOT ON on the preparations. They all need IPL games as practise matches. You can see the intensity of the players when they play for their club, but not for India. India are always No1. ONLY AT HOME. Just DRAW series against SA,ENG & AUS will not stamp them as No.1. My prediction before the series was Eng 2-1, but now it will be 3-1.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:57 GMT

    indian players are not playing with determination..they are just playing..they need to play with concentratin and determination

  • CricketPichivadu on August 2, 2011, 15:56 GMT

    I agree with Ganguly 100%. If our captain himself does not put a price on his wicket, how we expect our tail enders to not to do the same. In my opinion, everybody who is playing cricket for India has to decide to between IPL and the nation. While I agree they also have to make a living, BCCI should not schedule any games at least a month after IPL to these divas to recover.

    As Ganguly correct said, Indian cricket team should simply accept the fact the England played much better than them and move on. What is most disheartning is, the lack of will and fight. They did not go down fighting, they simply gave up. This is what we used to hate most about our teams from 80s and 90s. I thought, with Dhoni at the helm, we got that fighting spirit. But they proved 1.2 billion people wrong.

  • khiladisher on August 2, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    When ganguly speaks people listen and he and only he not dhoni who has taken Indian cricket to never before heights-dhoni was just plucking the ripe fruits. dhoni as usual has come up with a long list of excuses for the Indian failure-is test match cricket even a priority with dhoni . Ganguly has once been called as the god of off side batting and now in the commentators box he is proving to be the best.Always a true fighter,come back hero and calls a spade a spade. His comments and views are refreshing to hear and has cultivated more fans for him.Way to go SAURAV.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    That's what i hate abt modern cricket. Players n teams always try to find an excuse...

  • JustIPL on August 2, 2011, 15:52 GMT

    India should go back to basics as they are the team who can regain top spot even if they lose it now. Looking back they maintained a very good A team and got good players from U-19 level. Recall that innings from Dhoni for A team and many innings from Gambhir at the A team level. Ranji should be the next priority for player selection while IPL talent should go through A or Ranji level before breaking in. Ganguly, Gavasker, Shastri should do some practical stuff for their team instead of leaving everything to the foreign coaches. They have their commercial interests elsewhere and dont give back to the team which made them stars. India is the nation where cricket is the religion and these heroes are gods. Indian can look at the emerging players competition and select players from there as they are coming from competitive cricket. Had there been zaheer england would have not recovered so easily while the other three seamers depended more on the first use of the pitch in both tests.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:51 GMT

    dada i accept with you...

  • deepakjm on August 2, 2011, 15:50 GMT

    Totally agree with Dada. I have a huge respect for Dhoni and what he has done or Indian cricket but same time tired of hearing his same excuses. If you guys want rest don't play IPL and still you would make enough money to stay at home for rest of your lives. Atleast accept that you were beaten by better team on that day. As an Indian fanI had lot of expectations from this ream but disappointed.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:46 GMT

    I think Ganguly can still replace Raina/Yuvi, I see the fire in him which is missing from others. Dada you are the fire with which India propelled so high, if Dhoni needs to prove that he can propel India like you the next 2 matches are very crucial. Good luck team India, all said and done I love Dhoni!

  • Sanath-aiyya on August 2, 2011, 15:43 GMT

    well said saurav..u always call it like it is. And I really like Ganguly;s commentary - he doesnt do this partisan nonsense like ravi , sunil gavaskar and harsha bhogle.

  • woodhaven on August 2, 2011, 15:40 GMT

    india thought all these years they won against depleted team or injury suffered team, so they can also win against england. But sorry to say this is the only time england has full strength team, so there is no way to win. plus india only win in their backyard, where they make own type ground. so all credit goes to england team

  • BoonBoom on August 2, 2011, 15:37 GMT

    Keep dreaming for a comeback but this will not happen. England is bound to win 4-0 insha allah !!!

  • Vernacular_Press on August 2, 2011, 15:37 GMT

    Ganguly is famous for his excuses.Dhoni didnt make excuse, he just sent the message to BCCI to schedule properly if they have to be at the top.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:36 GMT

    ganguly is absolutely correct in his opinion, how long dhoni say

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:35 GMT

    Just what i wanted to say... dad has come out..... we need to change a lot.. in fact dhoni should improve his batting technique and the way he played is worst in the series... I am just worried about the test side if there is no Dravid or Laxman or Tendulkar.... we can be rolled out for 100 odd runs and the bowlers magic would give the opponent 400 or even 500 + easily in a day... In future it may be only two day test match... as we can be easily knocked off in a session or two

  • vickyrIND on August 2, 2011, 15:35 GMT

    Short pitched deliveries are Indias well known problem. India have tried several young players in Test side within last few years and none of them is really able to make a mark in the side. Team India is still running with old guns which is really disappointing. In years to come its going to be even worse when those old guns are bidding adieu. There is not a young player in side who can claim his spot on merit. Hope they will not go the Aussie or Windie way to take too long to recover as we have a large pool of talent to choose from.

    Wish good luck team India

  • HarishVS on August 2, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    Sourav has summed up the issue frankly and rightly so. The shrewd tactician and great thinker of the game, his words brought back the memories of his playing days. After he quit (or made to quit), we have not found a proper replacement for him. Laxman has moved up to No.5 and No.6 has always been a position of unfilled promise. Sourav was the one who started building the Indian team towards the No.1 position and not for nothing that he was our most successful skipper for Team India for so long. The younger batsmen have failed consistently to tackle short pitch bowling. Of all, I find Rohit Sharma the best of the lot but strangely he has been selected for T20s and ODIs. Performance in ODIs or T20 tend to vary and consistency cant be expected. As well suggested by Sourva, Riana and Co. need to pull up their socks and fare better to help India achieve better success in future.

  • intcamd on August 2, 2011, 15:28 GMT

    Unfortunately, while Gangs makes good points, he is a bit unsuited to blast the batsmen about short piched balls and seaming wickets in foreign conditions, let us not forget he was AWFUL in those situations. But, forget the messenger focus on the message, then absolutely, the batsmen stunk it up bigtime; especially Mukund, and the tailenders; Raina played one decent knock at Lords and AWOL; Yuvraj was OK in the first innings; Dhoni is clueless, he should be batting at the 12th spot; overall, we have been shown up as clowns. Let us hope that Gambhir+Sehwag+Zak make a difference in the 3rd test

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:28 GMT

    Dhoni lack the toughness of Ganguly. He is too concerned with his "cool" image and being nice. In the last Test in the West Indies, he refused to go for it. That has started afeeling that India prefers to be liked and thus would not impose their will on others . The Brits, Aussies and S. Africa and even Pakistan will live this. Everyone was commending Dhoni on his Bell reversal...good for cricket etc. were the Brits listening? They appeal all the time and even question the umpires'drecision by going for referral all the time. When VVS told them he had not played the ball, they still referred. As the great Gavaskar query...why is it that it is India that always have to be nice? Limited overs have spoiled Raina, Rohit, Juvraj and others. They lack the ability/smarts to move on to tests. Bring Jaffa as Ganguly suggested and take a lesson of grit from him, Gavaskar, who stood tall against thw fierce West Indian attack,Dravid,VVS ,Sachin, Kapil. Show sdome "cojones"

  • Unmesh_cric on August 2, 2011, 15:26 GMT

    I know a lot of people who don't like Ganguly...but I am an admirer of Ganguly. Whatever he says, he says through heart..there is no mincing of words...and most importantly, he cares about Indian cricket. It does look like India didn't take this series as seriously as they should have. They went to England for "just another Test series". This is no West Indies..this is serious business. There should have been more practice matches to get used to the swinging conditions. All is not lost yet though...there are 2 more matches to show what they are made up of. Hopefully, Sehwag will be back for the next match. Sehwag is the boost that India badly needs right now.

  • Alexk400 on August 2, 2011, 15:18 GMT

    Excuses excuses. Problem is selection. Nothing else. When sehwag injured why not jaffer and karthik who did exemplary in last tour?. Indian selectors experimented with opening slot and failed miserably. Mukund is extremely limited. He can't play offside. slow bat speed. Sachin and VVS laxman are good in playing old ball. New ball both choke big time. Dravid is failing to perfect ball getting old. He must make adjustment. Change technique to counter that. Steyn did that to him , anderson copied it. Dravid must adjust. Key for india's failure is going with spinner. It does not show india is there to fight. Indians are resting on laurels of the players not thinking in current context. I blame the coach and dhoni for bad selection. Dhoni immediately asked for any opener he wants , he could have succeeded. Dhoni do not want to be incharge when things goes bad. He is finding excuses. Indian middle order is good when openers give platform. domestic players are not good in swinging condition

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:18 GMT

    Well said! Ganguly really is no-nonsensical...I hope he gets involved in Indian cricket's administration in some major way.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:15 GMT

    i agree india have almost gifted this series. first australia did it and now india doing thank god south africa is the real best in the world.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:15 GMT

    Rightly said India can,t take this series for granted.India had to fight and show England their exact position which is usually seen when they come to play in subcontinent.

  • VEXXZ on August 2, 2011, 15:14 GMT

    India Came to England with a POOR bowling attack . When one look at the English squad , you will see a well-balance-one . Then when you look at the Indian squad , you see a batting line up that is WEAK at the top without Sehwag and a LONG batting tail .How much can Sehwag do coming into the team with little or no match practice and up against the BEST bowling attack in the world at present . In every department this England squad is DEADLY at home in favourable conditions .

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:13 GMT

    Its easy to talk MR.Ganguly, tough to do in...

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    Look who is talking about short deliveries now!

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:11 GMT

    DADA Rocks!! ...........................

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  • on August 2, 2011, 15:11 GMT

    DADA Rocks!! ...........................

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    Look who is talking about short deliveries now!

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:13 GMT

    Its easy to talk MR.Ganguly, tough to do in...

  • VEXXZ on August 2, 2011, 15:14 GMT

    India Came to England with a POOR bowling attack . When one look at the English squad , you will see a well-balance-one . Then when you look at the Indian squad , you see a batting line up that is WEAK at the top without Sehwag and a LONG batting tail .How much can Sehwag do coming into the team with little or no match practice and up against the BEST bowling attack in the world at present . In every department this England squad is DEADLY at home in favourable conditions .

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:15 GMT

    Rightly said India can,t take this series for granted.India had to fight and show England their exact position which is usually seen when they come to play in subcontinent.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:15 GMT

    i agree india have almost gifted this series. first australia did it and now india doing thank god south africa is the real best in the world.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:18 GMT

    Well said! Ganguly really is no-nonsensical...I hope he gets involved in Indian cricket's administration in some major way.

  • Alexk400 on August 2, 2011, 15:18 GMT

    Excuses excuses. Problem is selection. Nothing else. When sehwag injured why not jaffer and karthik who did exemplary in last tour?. Indian selectors experimented with opening slot and failed miserably. Mukund is extremely limited. He can't play offside. slow bat speed. Sachin and VVS laxman are good in playing old ball. New ball both choke big time. Dravid is failing to perfect ball getting old. He must make adjustment. Change technique to counter that. Steyn did that to him , anderson copied it. Dravid must adjust. Key for india's failure is going with spinner. It does not show india is there to fight. Indians are resting on laurels of the players not thinking in current context. I blame the coach and dhoni for bad selection. Dhoni immediately asked for any opener he wants , he could have succeeded. Dhoni do not want to be incharge when things goes bad. He is finding excuses. Indian middle order is good when openers give platform. domestic players are not good in swinging condition

  • Unmesh_cric on August 2, 2011, 15:26 GMT

    I know a lot of people who don't like Ganguly...but I am an admirer of Ganguly. Whatever he says, he says through heart..there is no mincing of words...and most importantly, he cares about Indian cricket. It does look like India didn't take this series as seriously as they should have. They went to England for "just another Test series". This is no West Indies..this is serious business. There should have been more practice matches to get used to the swinging conditions. All is not lost yet though...there are 2 more matches to show what they are made up of. Hopefully, Sehwag will be back for the next match. Sehwag is the boost that India badly needs right now.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:28 GMT

    Dhoni lack the toughness of Ganguly. He is too concerned with his "cool" image and being nice. In the last Test in the West Indies, he refused to go for it. That has started afeeling that India prefers to be liked and thus would not impose their will on others . The Brits, Aussies and S. Africa and even Pakistan will live this. Everyone was commending Dhoni on his Bell reversal...good for cricket etc. were the Brits listening? They appeal all the time and even question the umpires'drecision by going for referral all the time. When VVS told them he had not played the ball, they still referred. As the great Gavaskar query...why is it that it is India that always have to be nice? Limited overs have spoiled Raina, Rohit, Juvraj and others. They lack the ability/smarts to move on to tests. Bring Jaffa as Ganguly suggested and take a lesson of grit from him, Gavaskar, who stood tall against thw fierce West Indian attack,Dravid,VVS ,Sachin, Kapil. Show sdome "cojones"