England v India, 3rd npower Test, Edgbaston August 9, 2011

Tremlett ruled out of third Test

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Chris Tremlett has been ruled out of the third against India at Edgbaston having failed to recover from the back injury that forced him to miss the previous match at Trent Bridge.

He had been included in the 13-man squad for Wednesday's Test but wasn't able to train on Monday or Tuesday, so there was no chance of him being considered. An ECB update added he "will receive ongoing treatment ahead of the fourth Test".

Tremlett initially suffered a hamstring injury towards the end of the Lord's Test and then went down with a back spasm during training the day before the Trent Bridge match started. With the final Test starting at The Oval after only a three day gap, it remains doubtful whether Tremlett will play any further part in this series.

Andrew Strauss said: "It's sad for Chris that he has a bulging disc in his back and that should clear up sooner or later, but this Test has come too soon."

It means that Tim Bresnan will retain his place for Edgbaston after a superb all-round performance last week where he scored 90 and claimed a career-best 5 for 48 in the second innings. Steven Finn is also part of the squad but is unlikely to be considered given the success of the current unit in securing a 2-0 series lead.

"One of the great things is people have come in and performed," Strauss said. "Tim got his chance because Chris, who had done brilliantly, was injured and he took it with both hands. Ravi Bopara is coming in for this game and he's got the chance to do something similar."

The pressing concern for Strauss though, even more than injuries, is England's tendency to slip up when a big victory is in sight. Whether the Ashes loss in Headingley 2009, or again in Perth over the winter, England have had trouble wrapping up a series in the past. This time, though, Strauss thinks England will learn from the experience.

"I certainly thought we learnt from lessons of Headingley in '09 because I think we started looking at the outcome of the game rather than starting well," he said. "Since then we've been keen to keep everyone's feet on the ground whether winning or losing. This is one of those circumstances.

"There is no point looking too far ahead. The rankings are not at the forefront of our minds right at the moment. What is at the forefront of our minds is starting this Test match well and hopefully getting into a position to win it at the end of this week."

Despite the measured talk from the captain himself, the groundswell of opinion since Trent Bridge is that Strauss's England side are one of the best in the country's recent history. Andrew Flintoff was one who insisted the current side are better than the 2004-05 vintage that Flintoff featured in. Strauss, however, rejected the idea.

"Comparisons are odious and not all that helpful," he said. "When you are involved in a side, it makes no difference whether people say if the side is as good as another side or not. It makes no difference to your preparation for a Test match at all. It's not something I spend any time thinking about because if I did, I would subconsciously taking my eyes off what's important for us as a side."

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  • on August 10, 2011, 4:12 GMT

    I would still like the England team to include Trott rather than Bopara if possible if the former is even more than 50% okay because he is better than Bopara and has got better performance in test. I want Bopara to be included as a substitute if possible because players from Asian origin do not play well in test cricket more often. So, it's better the ECB should ponder and think on this matter.

  • sawifan on August 10, 2011, 1:06 GMT

    As a neutral cricket supporter in this series, i am really annoyed by all the excuses being offered up by the Indian supporters. Now in this test, they have their #1 batting line-up finally back, and ENG are missing possibly their most valuable batsman as well as an in-form bowler. So 'finally' the shoe is on the other foot. If IND can't smash the Poms in this match, then i think all the Indian supporters should just keep quiet about the series being 'not fair' because of injuries. Another point that i have found annoying is these IND fans saying ENG's #1 won't be true because they can't win in the sub-continent.. when was the last time IND won in AUS or SAF?!?!?! At the moment, the top 4-5 teams are very close, so winning everywhere is not needed to top the ranking, just winning more than the team below you! Get over it! If ENG reach #1, it is from the same system that allowed IND to climb to #1 too. And please stop mentioning the ODI WC, it has nothing to do with TEST CRICKET!

  • Shan156 on August 10, 2011, 0:04 GMT

    Hopefully, there will be a test match tomorrow. More important than the cricket is for the riots to be controlled and people returning to normalcy. Cricket can wait.

    As for the test match, nice to see good comments from both sides. I feel that some of the comments from Indian fans in this article are a tad negative. India is a strong side even without Zak and especially with Sehwag and Gambhir. Strauss and co. would be fully aware of it. They didn't get to #1 with just 1 guy. I'm surprised that people don't rate Kumar highly. He has been brilliant with the new ball. Sharma and Sreesanth have had their moments and with the highly talented Mishra to play, it looks quite a strong attack against the out of form English openers, Morgan and Bopara. The batting with the return of Sehwag and Gambhir will get stronger.

    England would underestimate India at their own peril. I still feel that India's batting is way ahead of England's while the bowling is behind.

  • bhaloniaz on August 9, 2011, 19:44 GMT

    Tremlett is potentially England's best bowler. England should play him if he is not injured or recovering from injury. With Broad and Bresnan's allround abilities, England will have a hard time deciding the playing eleven when Tremlett comes back. You cannot drop someone who averages 4+ wickets per match until that go down.

  • vijaykanth59 on August 9, 2011, 19:28 GMT

    @freo75 u are really funny!

  • Nutcutlet on August 9, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    If Chris Tremlett is fit for the final test at the Oval - and Bresnan has turned in another fine performance at Edgbaston, I'm wondering if it isn't time for England to use a rotation policy. Frankly, it doesn't matter who is injured amongst Enland's fast bowling battery - any three of Anderson, Broad, Tremlett, Bresnan or Finn could play and be fairly certain of disposing of any side in the world at the moment, with some timely assistance from Swann. It is an enviable position that England finds itself in, and with a rotation policy all of the above could expect to prolong their test careers. Just a thought...PS: The last time England had such an embarrassment of riches was in the 50s: Trueman, Statham, Tyson, Loader, Bedser and Bailey. And England was #1 between 1953 and 1958! Oh,then there was Laker and Lock as well!

  • ravin1998 on August 9, 2011, 18:15 GMT

    In all likelihood India will loose one more test. If they play well we miht get away with 3-0, only thing we can wish is good positive cricket from Sachin, Laxman and Dravid. I don't think Sehwag will play well in this match. Hopefully Sachin gets his 100th century. We should support good cricket wheather it is India or England.

  • kitten on August 9, 2011, 17:31 GMT

    I agree with one of the comments that, that was a convenient 'injury', to retain Bresnan in the side. But, nevertheless, he did perform brilliantly, and deserved to retain his place. But having said that, I still feel Tremlett would have posed a bigger problem to Sehwag, than Bresnan will. We shall all wait and see what happens in the next few days. I hope the weather stay good. Looking forward to some more fight from India(now that VS and GG ar back) in this one, that the lopsided affairs in the previous two. Roll on Wednesday.

  • landl47 on August 9, 2011, 15:56 GMT

    So England have Trott and Tremlett out, India have Zaheer, Bhaji and Yuvi out. Seems like a pretty level contest.

  • BustIPL on August 9, 2011, 15:05 GMT

    I am sure english will not take it for granted but I dont think they are tested against the worlds best side as yet. the current indian side who were still under the dream of their world cup in backyard were heavily challenged by windies. Tendulkar and ZAK could not be effective after skipping windies tour. English openers in particular cook has not scored despite his innings agains SL so still they have to achieve some more prime. Other occasions referred in this article where english faltered must not apply here while there is weekend indian side is down against the powerful english.

  • on August 10, 2011, 4:12 GMT

    I would still like the England team to include Trott rather than Bopara if possible if the former is even more than 50% okay because he is better than Bopara and has got better performance in test. I want Bopara to be included as a substitute if possible because players from Asian origin do not play well in test cricket more often. So, it's better the ECB should ponder and think on this matter.

  • sawifan on August 10, 2011, 1:06 GMT

    As a neutral cricket supporter in this series, i am really annoyed by all the excuses being offered up by the Indian supporters. Now in this test, they have their #1 batting line-up finally back, and ENG are missing possibly their most valuable batsman as well as an in-form bowler. So 'finally' the shoe is on the other foot. If IND can't smash the Poms in this match, then i think all the Indian supporters should just keep quiet about the series being 'not fair' because of injuries. Another point that i have found annoying is these IND fans saying ENG's #1 won't be true because they can't win in the sub-continent.. when was the last time IND won in AUS or SAF?!?!?! At the moment, the top 4-5 teams are very close, so winning everywhere is not needed to top the ranking, just winning more than the team below you! Get over it! If ENG reach #1, it is from the same system that allowed IND to climb to #1 too. And please stop mentioning the ODI WC, it has nothing to do with TEST CRICKET!

  • Shan156 on August 10, 2011, 0:04 GMT

    Hopefully, there will be a test match tomorrow. More important than the cricket is for the riots to be controlled and people returning to normalcy. Cricket can wait.

    As for the test match, nice to see good comments from both sides. I feel that some of the comments from Indian fans in this article are a tad negative. India is a strong side even without Zak and especially with Sehwag and Gambhir. Strauss and co. would be fully aware of it. They didn't get to #1 with just 1 guy. I'm surprised that people don't rate Kumar highly. He has been brilliant with the new ball. Sharma and Sreesanth have had their moments and with the highly talented Mishra to play, it looks quite a strong attack against the out of form English openers, Morgan and Bopara. The batting with the return of Sehwag and Gambhir will get stronger.

    England would underestimate India at their own peril. I still feel that India's batting is way ahead of England's while the bowling is behind.

  • bhaloniaz on August 9, 2011, 19:44 GMT

    Tremlett is potentially England's best bowler. England should play him if he is not injured or recovering from injury. With Broad and Bresnan's allround abilities, England will have a hard time deciding the playing eleven when Tremlett comes back. You cannot drop someone who averages 4+ wickets per match until that go down.

  • vijaykanth59 on August 9, 2011, 19:28 GMT

    @freo75 u are really funny!

  • Nutcutlet on August 9, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    If Chris Tremlett is fit for the final test at the Oval - and Bresnan has turned in another fine performance at Edgbaston, I'm wondering if it isn't time for England to use a rotation policy. Frankly, it doesn't matter who is injured amongst Enland's fast bowling battery - any three of Anderson, Broad, Tremlett, Bresnan or Finn could play and be fairly certain of disposing of any side in the world at the moment, with some timely assistance from Swann. It is an enviable position that England finds itself in, and with a rotation policy all of the above could expect to prolong their test careers. Just a thought...PS: The last time England had such an embarrassment of riches was in the 50s: Trueman, Statham, Tyson, Loader, Bedser and Bailey. And England was #1 between 1953 and 1958! Oh,then there was Laker and Lock as well!

  • ravin1998 on August 9, 2011, 18:15 GMT

    In all likelihood India will loose one more test. If they play well we miht get away with 3-0, only thing we can wish is good positive cricket from Sachin, Laxman and Dravid. I don't think Sehwag will play well in this match. Hopefully Sachin gets his 100th century. We should support good cricket wheather it is India or England.

  • kitten on August 9, 2011, 17:31 GMT

    I agree with one of the comments that, that was a convenient 'injury', to retain Bresnan in the side. But, nevertheless, he did perform brilliantly, and deserved to retain his place. But having said that, I still feel Tremlett would have posed a bigger problem to Sehwag, than Bresnan will. We shall all wait and see what happens in the next few days. I hope the weather stay good. Looking forward to some more fight from India(now that VS and GG ar back) in this one, that the lopsided affairs in the previous two. Roll on Wednesday.

  • landl47 on August 9, 2011, 15:56 GMT

    So England have Trott and Tremlett out, India have Zaheer, Bhaji and Yuvi out. Seems like a pretty level contest.

  • BustIPL on August 9, 2011, 15:05 GMT

    I am sure english will not take it for granted but I dont think they are tested against the worlds best side as yet. the current indian side who were still under the dream of their world cup in backyard were heavily challenged by windies. Tendulkar and ZAK could not be effective after skipping windies tour. English openers in particular cook has not scored despite his innings agains SL so still they have to achieve some more prime. Other occasions referred in this article where english faltered must not apply here while there is weekend indian side is down against the powerful english.

  • zico123 on August 9, 2011, 14:21 GMT

    it is unfair that India is losing their no. 1 ranking in a series where they are without their best bowler Zaheer and 2 best batsman Sehwag and Gambhir, it is unfair to judge a depleted Indian side against a full strength England side. i am sure the result would have been other way round if India was at full strength and England was without Peterson, Bell and Anderson. so bottom line it would have been true contest if India at full strengh was playing against a full strength England team.

  • cricketever on August 9, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    I definitely say Tim Bresnan deserves his place and sorry for Tremlett who is in great form. one thing i can say it made selection panel job easy due to tremlett's injury.

  • Clive_Dunn on August 9, 2011, 11:49 GMT

    One of those "injuries" caused by not wanting to drop either him or Brezza. I'm thinking Bresnan's batting and the unproven 5 and 6 might have negatively affected this back injury in the selectors minds. Can't blame them really.

  • popnlock on August 9, 2011, 11:46 GMT

    England really looking good even with their bench strength right now,, they deserve to be no.1 in tests.. I hope they can stay long there too.. good luck england

  • Tjoeps on August 9, 2011, 11:42 GMT

    Support to England from SA! You guys are playing GREAT cricket, loves the way that there is always someone to take up the slack, and run with the ball! Your batting lineup is top notch, I would think of even playing Finn to make sure of those 20 wickets.... To all the ex Saffers, go for it guys, I am very happy that you have find a way to showcase your talent, go out there and make Cricket the winner! To the other African, well done Andy and your team! Love what Zim did to BD... Have a great match and proof to the world that you are the real deal, as No 1 in world cricket, for sure, you have the team to do that!

  • freo75 on August 9, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    Its a shame that even if India win, it wont be against a full strength England side, and therefore will be a completely holllow victory

  • on August 9, 2011, 10:28 GMT

    Twiggy wouldn't be missed much, the way others are bowling. But I always have believed If Viru (Virendra S) can be dangerous against opponents, who has quick bowlers bowling bouncers around rib cage area. Twiggy is one of those typical tall bowlers, who can surprise, 5'7 Nawab The Delhi Daredevil Sehwag.

    Hope this doesn't hurt Strauss & Boys. Basic is the first thing, and rest can follow.

    All the best India.

  • on August 9, 2011, 10:14 GMT

    From an Angry Indian fan : This can't save India from either Whitewash or 3-0. Anderson,Broad and Bresnan are in superb form and will sufficient even for Full strength and (used to be) strong Indian Batting line up.

  • on August 9, 2011, 10:08 GMT

    Good now bresnan is a certain starter

  • on August 9, 2011, 10:04 GMT

    Tremlett and zaheer , both are out. Big loss for indians but not for England

  • bipulkumar on August 9, 2011, 9:57 GMT

    At this moment, it seems whatever team combination England comes up with, Indians will lose remaining tests. I don't see how Indians can avoid 4-0.

  • htenneti on August 9, 2011, 9:55 GMT

    England's bench strength is excellent, they need not worry about replacements like India. Bresnan is as dangerous as Tremlett. The next two weeks will be the true test for the "world no 1" team , if we realy believe we are the true holders , then we need to play like champions to beat this very strong and in form English side.

  • Patchmaster on August 9, 2011, 9:54 GMT

    I think Bresnan deserved his place anyway - he works so hard and tries so hard - I really think he should be a permanent fixture.

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  • Patchmaster on August 9, 2011, 9:54 GMT

    I think Bresnan deserved his place anyway - he works so hard and tries so hard - I really think he should be a permanent fixture.

  • htenneti on August 9, 2011, 9:55 GMT

    England's bench strength is excellent, they need not worry about replacements like India. Bresnan is as dangerous as Tremlett. The next two weeks will be the true test for the "world no 1" team , if we realy believe we are the true holders , then we need to play like champions to beat this very strong and in form English side.

  • bipulkumar on August 9, 2011, 9:57 GMT

    At this moment, it seems whatever team combination England comes up with, Indians will lose remaining tests. I don't see how Indians can avoid 4-0.

  • on August 9, 2011, 10:04 GMT

    Tremlett and zaheer , both are out. Big loss for indians but not for England

  • on August 9, 2011, 10:08 GMT

    Good now bresnan is a certain starter

  • on August 9, 2011, 10:14 GMT

    From an Angry Indian fan : This can't save India from either Whitewash or 3-0. Anderson,Broad and Bresnan are in superb form and will sufficient even for Full strength and (used to be) strong Indian Batting line up.

  • on August 9, 2011, 10:28 GMT

    Twiggy wouldn't be missed much, the way others are bowling. But I always have believed If Viru (Virendra S) can be dangerous against opponents, who has quick bowlers bowling bouncers around rib cage area. Twiggy is one of those typical tall bowlers, who can surprise, 5'7 Nawab The Delhi Daredevil Sehwag.

    Hope this doesn't hurt Strauss & Boys. Basic is the first thing, and rest can follow.

    All the best India.

  • freo75 on August 9, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    Its a shame that even if India win, it wont be against a full strength England side, and therefore will be a completely holllow victory

  • Tjoeps on August 9, 2011, 11:42 GMT

    Support to England from SA! You guys are playing GREAT cricket, loves the way that there is always someone to take up the slack, and run with the ball! Your batting lineup is top notch, I would think of even playing Finn to make sure of those 20 wickets.... To all the ex Saffers, go for it guys, I am very happy that you have find a way to showcase your talent, go out there and make Cricket the winner! To the other African, well done Andy and your team! Love what Zim did to BD... Have a great match and proof to the world that you are the real deal, as No 1 in world cricket, for sure, you have the team to do that!

  • popnlock on August 9, 2011, 11:46 GMT

    England really looking good even with their bench strength right now,, they deserve to be no.1 in tests.. I hope they can stay long there too.. good luck england