England Lions triangular series July 24, 2014

Flower to coach strong Lions team

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Andy Flower will return to frontline coaching less than six months after stepping down as England's team director when he takes charge of a strong Lions team, featuring Steven Finn, Jonny Bairstow and Ravi Bopara, in their triangular series against New Zealand A and Sri Lanka A next month.

Flower, whose hugely successful five-year tenure with England came to jarring end with an Ashes whitewash over the winter, has since moved into a leadership role with the ECB - his official job title is "Technical Director of Elite Coaching". He will oversee the Lions in four 50-over matches, rather than the usual candidate, ECB performance director, Dave Parsons.

Finn's return to England involvement is one of several noteworthy selections. Finn was sent home from Australia after being deemed unselectable, becoming like Flower a casualty of England's disastrous tour. Bairstow, who played the fourth and fifth Ashes Tests but has not been in a squad since, will get the chance to press his claims as Matt Prior's successor should Jos Buttler fail to step up convincingly from his limited-overs role.

The team will be captained by James Taylor, the Nottinghamshire batsman and Lions regular who played two Tests under Flower in 2012, and also includes Bopara, whose Test ambitions remain on hold despite being a regular in ODI and T20 cricket for England.

England's search for a spinner has seen them alight on Middlesex's left-armer Ravi Patel, who has played just three List A matches in his career, though Lancashire's Stephen Parry is also included after being involved in the disastrous World T20 campaign in Bangladesh. Jason Roy's excellent form for Surrey has been rewarded, David Willey returns after injury setbacks over the winter and there is an opportunity for Somerset's Craig Overton , whose twin brother Jamie was selected for the full ODI squad last year. Tom Smith, the Lancashire allrounder, is also recognised for his strong domestic season so far.

Alex Hales, the T20 opener previously ranked No. 1 in the world, is expected to make the transition to 50-over cricket when England play five ODIs against India later in the summer and the Lions series will further inform the selectors as part of preparations for the 2015 World Cup.

"With the Royal London one-day international series against India rapidly approaching and next winter's tour to Sri Lanka and ICC Cricket World Cup also firmly in our sights, this is the perfect opportunity for these players to impress the selectors in the 50-over format of the game," the national selector, James Whitaker, said. "We are delighted to welcome Ravi Patel from Middlesex into a Lions squad for the first time and look forward to what promises to be a closely contested series against two highly competitive touring sides."

The Lions will begin their involvement in the triangular series against Sri Lanka A in Taunton on August 6, before facing New Zealand A in Bristol two days later. The other two fixtures will be played at New Road the following week.

England Lions squad: James Taylor (Nottinghamshire, capt), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Ravi Bopara (Essex), Steven Finn (Middlesex), Stephen Parry (Lancashire), Harry Gurney (Nottinghamshire), Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire), Craig Overton (Somerset), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ravi Patel (Middlesex), Tom Smith (Lancashire), James Vince (Hampshire), David Willey (Northamptonshire)

Alan Gardner is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. @alanroderick

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  • POSTED BY StoneRose on | July 25, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    WHat about Danny Briggs and Simon Kerrigan?

  • POSTED BY Speng on | July 25, 2014, 12:45 GMT

    "Technical Director", "Performance Director"? If Flower wasn't good enough to coach the England team why is he good enough for the Lions?

    The team looks strong for an England limited overs squad but it seems to me like we know what a lot of these guys can do already. Ravi, Bairstow and Hales especially who would probably be in the squad against India anyway. I would like to see more guy who haven't played for England before. I reckon England has been pretty poor in ODIs and there needs to be as much trial of new blood before the World Cup.

  • POSTED BY Jimmyrob83 on | July 25, 2014, 10:21 GMT

    "strong Lions team" looks decidedly mediocre to me.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | July 25, 2014, 8:06 GMT

    @CodAndChips - I don't have huge opinions as I don't care that much.

    But my opinion is that we pick some 4 day players for 1 day games and I'm of the opinion that if they're not anywhere near the one day set up then leave them playing for their counties which IMO is better experience.

    So I'm with Brusselslion in that I'd like to see more 3or4 day games but I guess there is less revenue. I'd like to have seen Buttler learn his trade more as a WK in such games but he's in at the deep end (IMO wrongly) in the full side. If there was no other option then I would not be so against it but you have a much better WK who is in better batting form too - it's a no brainer. I don't think I could ever disagree with any Eng selection more than Buttler over Read. I could have reasoned with Bairstow as he is a more experienced keeper and probably still a better 1st class batsman or Foster who is a superb WK.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 25, 2014, 8:00 GMT

    @JG2704 A coupled of years ago I thought that Jimmy Adams had to play in the T20I side. He was easily the best in the country in T20. I also thought it would be nice to have a Hants player in the side.

    Seeing Carberry get his well-deserved and overdue call-up was nice too. However seeing him struggle wasn't nice. Moreover I think he was treated a bit harshly, as he should have played the T20I at the Ageas Bowl, and hasn't been given much of a solid run in the side.

    Also Hants players are much more important for Hampshire than for England. Therefore I don't care if they don't get selected.Eg for England there are many opening batsmen options. But for Hants there's no Carberry replacement.

    Also should Trego have been picked? Perhaps instead of Bopara?

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 25, 2014, 7:04 GMT

    @JG2704 Food for thought. The only Notts players to have played for England are Hales and Gurney, and at the time both were considered white-ball specialists while the only county games were in the championship.

    However I reckon Hales has to do more than most to get into the side because he has to hope that England drop one of the royal couple at the top.

    Yeah when Southampton players get called up it's nice. When Hampshire players get called up it's nice too. But Hampshire's squad isn't deep enough in quality to cover it. For instance when Carberry, Vince and Briggs were on Lions duty last year, we had to make do with Michael Roberts and Brad Taylor in the side, and there was an obvious gulf in class.

    What's your general thoughts on the side? As I said in my other comments I reckon it's pretty much one of the strongest we could field. What do you think of my other comments re certain players/ the balance of the side.

    Contrast the potential top 4 of this side to the ODI top 4.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | July 24, 2014, 22:49 GMT

    @Dave1965 on (July 24, 2014, 16:13 GMT)I think Overton (judging by stats) is the better batsman but as both a Somerset fan and a Plymothian I'm really pleased and surprised to see LG doing so well in the 1st class game. If Kirby wasn't injured we may not have seen him play much more than the odd SF appearance - talk about a blessing in disguise

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | July 24, 2014, 22:44 GMT

    @CodAndChips - Yeah we've said about this players from a team being selected before. And re football , you must have been pleased with all the Saints (or should I say ex Saints - sorry) players being selected as it didn't affect their availability for the club. I believe sides get rewarded in cricket for test call ups etc but there must come a point where you could lose so many players it becomes more a hindrance. Obviously sides like Notts,Yorks,Warwicks have deep squads but if we lose Compton the difference in quality between him and the replacement are huge I often thought that about Newell. I wonder if the games didn't clash with county games if we'd see more Notts players in the fold?

  • POSTED BY Dafffid on | July 24, 2014, 21:26 GMT

    Finn wasn't a casualty like Flower, he was a casualty OF Flower. His decline began when after a great early performance in Australia 2010, he was rested then effectively discarded, shattering his confidence. Then when his stump clipping became an issue they turned a small correction into a major mess, and a fast bowler into a fast medium pacer. Nobody who saw him bowl in Oz 2010 would have thought he'd be anywhere other than leading the England attack in 2014. Flower never knew how to pick or handle bowlers - leaving Onions out and taking Rankiin and Tremlett 2013 was the worst selection in living memory. Then selecting Swann instead of Panesar for Perth (where Panesar has a great record and Swann a poor onw - plus he was mentallly already retired) then picking Panesar for Melbourne but Cook throwing the ball to Joe Root instead... the roll-call of squandered England talent under Flower is very very long and is his poisonous legacy. Compton, Taylor... the list goes on and on

  • POSTED BY on | July 24, 2014, 21:04 GMT

    Re The Lions competition: We are told the domestic competition has to be 50 overs not 40 overs, so that players can prepare themselves for international one day cricket.

    Then whilst the new Royal London one day cup is on, the centrally contracted England players, and the players selected for the Lions, will will be unavailable and miss a large portion of this now devalued cup. Fans miss out seeing the best players in action, and the dead overs in the middle will make many fans long for the return of 40 over cricket.

  • POSTED BY StoneRose on | July 25, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    WHat about Danny Briggs and Simon Kerrigan?

  • POSTED BY Speng on | July 25, 2014, 12:45 GMT

    "Technical Director", "Performance Director"? If Flower wasn't good enough to coach the England team why is he good enough for the Lions?

    The team looks strong for an England limited overs squad but it seems to me like we know what a lot of these guys can do already. Ravi, Bairstow and Hales especially who would probably be in the squad against India anyway. I would like to see more guy who haven't played for England before. I reckon England has been pretty poor in ODIs and there needs to be as much trial of new blood before the World Cup.

  • POSTED BY Jimmyrob83 on | July 25, 2014, 10:21 GMT

    "strong Lions team" looks decidedly mediocre to me.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | July 25, 2014, 8:06 GMT

    @CodAndChips - I don't have huge opinions as I don't care that much.

    But my opinion is that we pick some 4 day players for 1 day games and I'm of the opinion that if they're not anywhere near the one day set up then leave them playing for their counties which IMO is better experience.

    So I'm with Brusselslion in that I'd like to see more 3or4 day games but I guess there is less revenue. I'd like to have seen Buttler learn his trade more as a WK in such games but he's in at the deep end (IMO wrongly) in the full side. If there was no other option then I would not be so against it but you have a much better WK who is in better batting form too - it's a no brainer. I don't think I could ever disagree with any Eng selection more than Buttler over Read. I could have reasoned with Bairstow as he is a more experienced keeper and probably still a better 1st class batsman or Foster who is a superb WK.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 25, 2014, 8:00 GMT

    @JG2704 A coupled of years ago I thought that Jimmy Adams had to play in the T20I side. He was easily the best in the country in T20. I also thought it would be nice to have a Hants player in the side.

    Seeing Carberry get his well-deserved and overdue call-up was nice too. However seeing him struggle wasn't nice. Moreover I think he was treated a bit harshly, as he should have played the T20I at the Ageas Bowl, and hasn't been given much of a solid run in the side.

    Also Hants players are much more important for Hampshire than for England. Therefore I don't care if they don't get selected.Eg for England there are many opening batsmen options. But for Hants there's no Carberry replacement.

    Also should Trego have been picked? Perhaps instead of Bopara?

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 25, 2014, 7:04 GMT

    @JG2704 Food for thought. The only Notts players to have played for England are Hales and Gurney, and at the time both were considered white-ball specialists while the only county games were in the championship.

    However I reckon Hales has to do more than most to get into the side because he has to hope that England drop one of the royal couple at the top.

    Yeah when Southampton players get called up it's nice. When Hampshire players get called up it's nice too. But Hampshire's squad isn't deep enough in quality to cover it. For instance when Carberry, Vince and Briggs were on Lions duty last year, we had to make do with Michael Roberts and Brad Taylor in the side, and there was an obvious gulf in class.

    What's your general thoughts on the side? As I said in my other comments I reckon it's pretty much one of the strongest we could field. What do you think of my other comments re certain players/ the balance of the side.

    Contrast the potential top 4 of this side to the ODI top 4.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | July 24, 2014, 22:49 GMT

    @Dave1965 on (July 24, 2014, 16:13 GMT)I think Overton (judging by stats) is the better batsman but as both a Somerset fan and a Plymothian I'm really pleased and surprised to see LG doing so well in the 1st class game. If Kirby wasn't injured we may not have seen him play much more than the odd SF appearance - talk about a blessing in disguise

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | July 24, 2014, 22:44 GMT

    @CodAndChips - Yeah we've said about this players from a team being selected before. And re football , you must have been pleased with all the Saints (or should I say ex Saints - sorry) players being selected as it didn't affect their availability for the club. I believe sides get rewarded in cricket for test call ups etc but there must come a point where you could lose so many players it becomes more a hindrance. Obviously sides like Notts,Yorks,Warwicks have deep squads but if we lose Compton the difference in quality between him and the replacement are huge I often thought that about Newell. I wonder if the games didn't clash with county games if we'd see more Notts players in the fold?

  • POSTED BY Dafffid on | July 24, 2014, 21:26 GMT

    Finn wasn't a casualty like Flower, he was a casualty OF Flower. His decline began when after a great early performance in Australia 2010, he was rested then effectively discarded, shattering his confidence. Then when his stump clipping became an issue they turned a small correction into a major mess, and a fast bowler into a fast medium pacer. Nobody who saw him bowl in Oz 2010 would have thought he'd be anywhere other than leading the England attack in 2014. Flower never knew how to pick or handle bowlers - leaving Onions out and taking Rankiin and Tremlett 2013 was the worst selection in living memory. Then selecting Swann instead of Panesar for Perth (where Panesar has a great record and Swann a poor onw - plus he was mentallly already retired) then picking Panesar for Melbourne but Cook throwing the ball to Joe Root instead... the roll-call of squandered England talent under Flower is very very long and is his poisonous legacy. Compton, Taylor... the list goes on and on

  • POSTED BY on | July 24, 2014, 21:04 GMT

    Re The Lions competition: We are told the domestic competition has to be 50 overs not 40 overs, so that players can prepare themselves for international one day cricket.

    Then whilst the new Royal London one day cup is on, the centrally contracted England players, and the players selected for the Lions, will will be unavailable and miss a large portion of this now devalued cup. Fans miss out seeing the best players in action, and the dead overs in the middle will make many fans long for the return of 40 over cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | July 24, 2014, 20:22 GMT

    This season's heaviest run scorer and most successful captain never seems to get a mention.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | July 24, 2014, 19:06 GMT

    I really hope James Taylor is being groomed into a future Test England captain. It's the only explanation for him being excluded from the current setup.

  • POSTED BY grahaam on | July 24, 2014, 18:02 GMT

    @CricketChat The black arm band protest you indirectly refer to, was directed at Mugabe, not Chingoka therefore, sadly, the most major obstacle remains, I would love to see Andy Flower working with Zim , with platers who were brought up to the same discipline levels he was, and therefore would not be worn out by hard work.

  • POSTED BY Dave1965 on | July 24, 2014, 16:13 GMT

    As a Somerset member I am delighted and very surprised that Lewis Gregory is not in the team, he has been fantastic this season. For me he is a better all rounder than any of Smith, Overton and Willey.

  • POSTED BY brusselslion on | July 24, 2014, 15:57 GMT

    Personally, I would have liked to have seen preferred some 3/4 day fixtures in the schedule. In any event, surely the selectors know enough about Taylor, Bairstow and Bopara? Pick one as captain perhaps, but the other two spots should have been given to promising youngsters.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | July 24, 2014, 15:37 GMT

    Not talking about the selection, but good that Flower is still in coaching and for England. If he stays at Lions and does well with them, it'll help get players better for going through to England A team

  • POSTED BY on | July 24, 2014, 15:16 GMT

    Good to see Harry Gurney back. A left armer who swings it and bowls very fast (last night on TV he was nudging 92 on a few deliveries). Seemed accurate as well. Taylor, Roy and Hales also. Spin? Let's wait and see. I don't think any of these "specialists" are more than fractionally better than Moeen Ali - if that. The cupboard seems really bare on test quality spinners. No shortage of low arm "dart" spinners brought up on T20 where the batsman has to go after them almost every ball - but quality long form spinners? I see precisely zero of note in the English first class system. Might as well keep Ali, at least he averages over 40 with the bat as well.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 24, 2014, 14:32 GMT

    I would have preferred to leave Bairstow in county cricket but what options are there? Buttler is in the test side. Foster and Read won't get a look in. Rouse perhaps? He's impressed for Gloucestershire with bat and gloves. Bates? He's an awesome keeper but in white-ball cricket I think you need your keeper to bat.

    Perhaps Davies would have played had he not given up the gloves.

    @JG2704 I agree that international cricket compromises the county game. Sides often lose their best players. I often wonder whether the selectors take into account the number of players take from each county.

    Mick Newell also has split loyalties as a selector. I'm not accusing him of anything, but it surely must be in the back of his mind.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 24, 2014, 14:26 GMT

    Overall I think the squad is pretty much the best available.

    People will want Compton/Onions/Lyth/Kerrigan, ignorant perhaps that the side will be playing 50 over games.

    If I could I'd perhaps change 1 or 2 players. Briggs for Patel is the obvious one. Though as a Hants fan I'd rather Briggs play for us. Graeme White is an option. I like him a lot.

    Luke Fletcher has impressed with death bowling in particular. I'd prefer him to Overton.

    I am a Michael Lumb fan as well after he played brilliantly in West Indies in the ODIs. I think he was dropped unfairly. Of course he's currently injured.

    I'd have considered Bopara as captain. I think he's matured and improved with bat, ball and mentally over the winter. I'd have liked to see him with added responsibility, just to see how he goes.

    People will moan about the lack of Samit Patel. His England record is very ordinary. However I think he's improved and should be near the test side as a batsman only.

  • POSTED BY mshyder on | July 24, 2014, 14:11 GMT

    These days when every side is dying to have good spinners, England is using part timer Moeen Ali! Where are Adil Rashid, Panesar and Samit Patel. They should be in the A side for a quick transition to the senior side although Panesar may not require this but A team matches may have motivated him to improve on other aspects.

  • POSTED BY on | July 24, 2014, 13:54 GMT

    Looking forward to seeing how Willey goes. I think he can really push for higher honours, and could be the sort of old-fashioned all-action allrounder that England need.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | July 24, 2014, 13:47 GMT

    I'd say Buttler should have been keeping wicket and learning his trade here with Read in the senior squad.

    Lyth is probably unlucky not to be in the senior side but I guess if you were choosing the best and 2nd best Eng side on current form Yorks would have a skeleton side out. Also I must remember these are 50 over matches and not longer form matches

    I think the big difference between these matches and the equivalent friendlies in football is that with football teams their best players don't play on the international circuit at the club's expense.

    Not sure what Overton is in there for. He does not excel in SFs so I don't really see much sense in playing players in a format which is not their bag just for the sake of it. Also I'd say Gregory has done better as a bowler for Somerset

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | July 24, 2014, 13:45 GMT

    I thought Flower is done coaching in Eng when he resigned. He wore out the senior players during his tenure earlier, now he is going wear out even the backup players! Not a wise choice by Eng Board. With major obstacles in Zim cricket board removed, he should go back to his roots and help Zim cricket.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 24, 2014, 13:40 GMT

    Many potential opening batsmen in the squad. Roy, Hales, Vince, Willey, Smith.

    I can't see them playing 2 spinners plus Bopara.

    Perhaps they'll go: 1.Hales 2.Roy 3.Taylor 4.Vince 5.Bopara 6.Bairstow 7.Willey/Smith 8.Overton 9.Gurney 10.Finn 11.Parry/Patel

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 24, 2014, 13:34 GMT

    Glad to see Taylor in the side. He hasn't had the best of seasons, but last year he was oustanding, especially in the YB40. Don't forget he was in the test side at Old Trafford as KP cover last year. Taylor is perhaps being weighed down by white-ball captaincy this year (like Vince). He has many gears to his game. He can bat through or smash it everywhere. He runs between the wickets excellently. Hence the ideal ODI batsman. He is also an excellent fielder. Hope he can score some runs.

    I wonder how the 2 new all-rounders will go. Smith has been a good player in county cricket and it's nice to see him picked. Could be a useful white-ball cricketer. Underated imo. Willey has been injured but could also be useful. Hopefully he can rediscover his bowling. We need at least 1 of these guys to do well because Stokes and Woakes are not white-ball cricketers.

    I hope everyone gets at least 1 game. I wonder how the side will be balanced.

  • POSTED BY on | July 24, 2014, 13:31 GMT

    Will be interested to see how Craig Overton goes. His star is certainly in the ascendancy at the moment, certainly more than his brother Jamie who has gone off the boil a bit since his England call-up. Think Craig is one for the Test side rather than the ODI's but let's see.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 24, 2014, 13:26 GMT

    (continued)

    Interesting they've gone with Parry and Ravi Patel. Hopefully we'll find a more than useful backup to Tredwell, and possibly even a long-format option.

    I don't understand the obsession with the Overtons. Jamie's selection seemed ridiculous at the time. Craig didn't impress me at all on sky the other night. Somerset fans are they up to it?

    Bairstow is an interesting selection. I wanted him to spend at least 1 full season with Yorkshire to work on both his batting and keeping as he appeared to be going backwards in international cricket. Hopefully he's improved.

    Great to see Roy and Hales selected. But I assume they have to do more than most to dislodge the royal couple at the top. The top order in the last ODI series had more grit than a snow-plough. It crossed the line between stabilising the side and stagnating the run-rate imo.

    Hopefully Steven Finn can rediscover his mojo. Was one of the best white-ball bowlers at one time according to the rankings.

  • POSTED BY on | July 24, 2014, 13:22 GMT

    CC - this season Patel 9 @ 56 Briggs 23 @ 26

    T20 - this season Patel 13 @21 Briggs 21 @ 17

    List A (40 Over/50 Over) - career Patel 4 @ 32 Briggs 65 @ 33 (including full ODIs)

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 24, 2014, 13:20 GMT

    I'm not too sure about Flower coaching the side. No doubt he was a great coach of England, but after such a terrible winter, surely we need a clean slate?

    This side looks interesting. 1 or 2 players like Bopara and Gurney are surely only in there to give them 50 over match practice before the ODI series. Though doesn't the Royal London cup start soon?

    As a Hampshire fan I'm delighted to only see one of our players in the squad. Vince started off the season well but is now struggling, so hopefully this will help him get back into form. Does this squad suggest Carberry's England career is over? All I know is that he's looked far from comfortable in an England shirt.

    Briggs has had an exceptional T20 Blast and imo is unlucky not to be included. Both him and Parry were discarded too quickly imo. Briggs has been very expensive in his T20I career, but has a very small sample size in games where the whole team got whacked. His ODI debut was also excellent.

  • POSTED BY RayMcCooney on | July 24, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    Glad to see Vince selected. Of late he appears to have found himself in more of a rut than a groove for Hampshire and will benefit from a fresh challenge IMHO. I think like Botham, Vince is one of those cricketers of whom history will show perform better on the big stage than the county circuit. I assume Ravi Bopara has been selected as a senior, stabilising influence.

  • POSTED BY RayMcCooney on | July 24, 2014, 12:48 GMT

    @Dan Botten: I am hoping that Danny has already proved his worth and is destined for bigger things. His unfazed resilience and mental strength in the face of the 'long handle', as I suspect you are aware, will be a massive asset to England in the forthcoming ODIs. Unlike some slow bowlers he doesn't go to pieces when attacked.

  • POSTED BY Hotpotato on | July 24, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    What does poor Samit Patel need to do to get a game?!

  • POSTED BY Basingrad on | July 24, 2014, 12:37 GMT

    @mtfb - Lyth is a little unlucky but the all or nothing approach of Hales and Roy opening will be interesting to watch. If they come off together it will get messy. Brooks takes wickets but he bowls too many loose ones for one-day cricket surely? Overlooking Rashid for Ravi Patel looks very harsh though. I assume Briggs has been left out because there is no chance of him ever stepping up to Tests, while they obviously think Patel can. So could Adil - we've got a batsman who bowls part-time in the side now, so surely a better bowler who can bat well enough to hold his own at 7 in Tests ought to be in the frame. He's clearly better than Borthwick (another notable absentee here).

  • POSTED BY ydoethur on | July 24, 2014, 12:19 GMT

    Indeed Dan Botten, and that's not the only puzzling decision. With due respect to David Willey and not forgetting he has been injured for part of the season, how does a man who averages 20 with the bat and 50 with the ball command a place ahead of Will Gidman, whose average is the other way around?

    I haven't forgotten it's a one day tournament either and that these are championship averages. But since Gidman also has the priceless ability to bowl dry, he would be a good stock bowler for the side.

    Not that I'm complaining - Gloucestershire stand no chance of bowling sides out or for that matter posting decent totals without him at the moment!

  • POSTED BY on | July 24, 2014, 11:37 GMT

    Errrrr, how does Danny Briggs not get selected but Ravi Patel does?

  • POSTED BY mtfb on | July 24, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    Lucky escape for Yorkshire not to lose Adam Lyth, Adil Rashid or Jack Brooks to these largely pointless games. Bairstow is no great loss as his form has been patchy to say the least, and Andrew Hodd is more than capable of stepping up.

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  • POSTED BY mtfb on | July 24, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    Lucky escape for Yorkshire not to lose Adam Lyth, Adil Rashid or Jack Brooks to these largely pointless games. Bairstow is no great loss as his form has been patchy to say the least, and Andrew Hodd is more than capable of stepping up.

  • POSTED BY on | July 24, 2014, 11:37 GMT

    Errrrr, how does Danny Briggs not get selected but Ravi Patel does?

  • POSTED BY ydoethur on | July 24, 2014, 12:19 GMT

    Indeed Dan Botten, and that's not the only puzzling decision. With due respect to David Willey and not forgetting he has been injured for part of the season, how does a man who averages 20 with the bat and 50 with the ball command a place ahead of Will Gidman, whose average is the other way around?

    I haven't forgotten it's a one day tournament either and that these are championship averages. But since Gidman also has the priceless ability to bowl dry, he would be a good stock bowler for the side.

    Not that I'm complaining - Gloucestershire stand no chance of bowling sides out or for that matter posting decent totals without him at the moment!

  • POSTED BY Basingrad on | July 24, 2014, 12:37 GMT

    @mtfb - Lyth is a little unlucky but the all or nothing approach of Hales and Roy opening will be interesting to watch. If they come off together it will get messy. Brooks takes wickets but he bowls too many loose ones for one-day cricket surely? Overlooking Rashid for Ravi Patel looks very harsh though. I assume Briggs has been left out because there is no chance of him ever stepping up to Tests, while they obviously think Patel can. So could Adil - we've got a batsman who bowls part-time in the side now, so surely a better bowler who can bat well enough to hold his own at 7 in Tests ought to be in the frame. He's clearly better than Borthwick (another notable absentee here).

  • POSTED BY Hotpotato on | July 24, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    What does poor Samit Patel need to do to get a game?!

  • POSTED BY RayMcCooney on | July 24, 2014, 12:48 GMT

    @Dan Botten: I am hoping that Danny has already proved his worth and is destined for bigger things. His unfazed resilience and mental strength in the face of the 'long handle', as I suspect you are aware, will be a massive asset to England in the forthcoming ODIs. Unlike some slow bowlers he doesn't go to pieces when attacked.

  • POSTED BY RayMcCooney on | July 24, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    Glad to see Vince selected. Of late he appears to have found himself in more of a rut than a groove for Hampshire and will benefit from a fresh challenge IMHO. I think like Botham, Vince is one of those cricketers of whom history will show perform better on the big stage than the county circuit. I assume Ravi Bopara has been selected as a senior, stabilising influence.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 24, 2014, 13:20 GMT

    I'm not too sure about Flower coaching the side. No doubt he was a great coach of England, but after such a terrible winter, surely we need a clean slate?

    This side looks interesting. 1 or 2 players like Bopara and Gurney are surely only in there to give them 50 over match practice before the ODI series. Though doesn't the Royal London cup start soon?

    As a Hampshire fan I'm delighted to only see one of our players in the squad. Vince started off the season well but is now struggling, so hopefully this will help him get back into form. Does this squad suggest Carberry's England career is over? All I know is that he's looked far from comfortable in an England shirt.

    Briggs has had an exceptional T20 Blast and imo is unlucky not to be included. Both him and Parry were discarded too quickly imo. Briggs has been very expensive in his T20I career, but has a very small sample size in games where the whole team got whacked. His ODI debut was also excellent.

  • POSTED BY on | July 24, 2014, 13:22 GMT

    CC - this season Patel 9 @ 56 Briggs 23 @ 26

    T20 - this season Patel 13 @21 Briggs 21 @ 17

    List A (40 Over/50 Over) - career Patel 4 @ 32 Briggs 65 @ 33 (including full ODIs)

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | July 24, 2014, 13:26 GMT

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    Interesting they've gone with Parry and Ravi Patel. Hopefully we'll find a more than useful backup to Tredwell, and possibly even a long-format option.

    I don't understand the obsession with the Overtons. Jamie's selection seemed ridiculous at the time. Craig didn't impress me at all on sky the other night. Somerset fans are they up to it?

    Bairstow is an interesting selection. I wanted him to spend at least 1 full season with Yorkshire to work on both his batting and keeping as he appeared to be going backwards in international cricket. Hopefully he's improved.

    Great to see Roy and Hales selected. But I assume they have to do more than most to dislodge the royal couple at the top. The top order in the last ODI series had more grit than a snow-plough. It crossed the line between stabilising the side and stagnating the run-rate imo.

    Hopefully Steven Finn can rediscover his mojo. Was one of the best white-ball bowlers at one time according to the rankings.