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Sons of a golden age

Six of the XI made their debuts after November 1989. A sign that this is one of Indian cricket's best periods ever

Suresh Menon

September 14, 2010

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Sunil Gavaskar with Virender Sehwag, Kanpur, November 19, 2004
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If the all-time XI is any indication, this is the golden age of Indian cricket. Four players in the list - Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, Virender Sehwag, MS Dhoni - are currently in the national side and two others, Anil Kumble and Javagal Srinath, retired fairly recently. The trouble with golden ages is that they are seldom recognised as such by those living through them. In sport especially, greatness is usually bestowed retrospectively. Perhaps it is no coincidence that India are currently the No. 1 side in the world.

That six of the XI made their debuts after November 1989, when Tendulkar first announced himself to the world, is a tribute to the Mumbai man's impact. Golden Ages must have their iconic figure and Tendulkar is clearly the one here, both for what he has accomplished himself and for his qualities that inspired the others.

The XI, so heavily tipped in favour of the modern players, has only two cricketers who appeared before independence. Vijay Hazare and Vinoo Mankad both made their debuts at Lord's in 1946. Mankad was 29 and opened the batting with Vijay Merchant; Hazare was 31 and opened the bowling with Lala Amarnath, although each was to become better known for his other skill.

Erapalli Prasanna alone of the spin quartet of the 60s and 70s makes the cut. Srinivas Venkatraghavan might have been the offspinner of choice towards the end of Prasanna's career, but in an all-time XI, Prasanna's greater variety and classicism were bound to make the difference. The presence of Mankad with his dual skills kept Bishan Bedi out, while Bhagwath Chandrasekhar had to make way for Anil Kumble with his superior record and aggressive outlook.

Four players - Sunil Gavaskar, Tendulkar, Kapil Dev and Mankad - were unanimous choices, while Sehwag, Dravid and Kumble were nearly so.

The bowling attack is well balanced, with three different types of spinners and two fast-medium men. There is no left-hand batsman, and that speaks of a lack of variety in the middle order. Syed Kirmani might have run Dhoni close for the wicketkeeper's slot, and with a re-jigging of the batting order it might have been possible to include Zaheer Khan (again, for variety). Perhaps he might have been in the 12.

Nine of the 11 have captained India, so who should get the vote here? A case can be made for Hazare. Or Gavaskar. But for the dignity he brought to the job, his commitment to the team and the game itself, and his demonstration through the 14 Tests he led in that you can be aggressive without being boorish, my vote would go to Anil Kumble.

Tendulkar might have set up the golden age and been its most obvious representative, but it was Kumble whose bowling secured the victories that made the difference in that period.

The XI

Sunil Gavaskar
"My view is that Sunny Gavaskar is the greatest batsman I have come across. He has opened the innings against genuine fast bowlers like Michael Holding, Roberts, Croft and Garner. He has made more runs away from India - in the West Indies, Australia and England." Garry Sobers

Virender Sehwag
"Virender destroys all strategies. He brings the excitement and drama from the first ball. If Test cricket is still alive, it is because of players like him." Matthew Hayden

Rahul Dravid
"Once Dravid was set, you needed the bowling equivalent of a dozen cannon firing all at once to blast him down." Shane Warne

"He has the technique and his record proves his ability on all surfaces." Ian Botham

Sachin Tendulkar
"If I had a son I would have wanted him to play like Sachin." Brian Lara

"Tendulkar is one of that narrow stratum of elite sports stars whom people will clamour and even make great sacrifices to watch, regardless of their national identity. If you care for cricket, you must love Sachin. In this regard, his peers are few - and mostly found in other sports, and certainly in other lands." Mike Marqusee

"He is No. 1 in my book - the best player I have ever had the privilege of bowling to. There's Steve Waugh and there's Brian Lara, but Tendulkar is a class above, consistently special." Allan Donald

Vijay Hazare
"Hazare was one of the most graceful batsmen it was my pleasure to see and perhaps the best compliment I can pay him is to say that his batting more closely resembled that of the great West Indian star Sir Frank Worrell, than anyone I can remember." Don Bradman

Vinoo Mankad
"Vinoo was unorthodox - more bent on getting on the offensive than defensive but he also had tremendous powers of concentration." Nari Contractor

"Although called upon to bowl so often on all types of wickets Mankad rarely departed from a perfect length and, even if not carrying all before him on a wet wicket he was rarely mastered. Indeed but for the shortcomings of some of his fieldsmen, his number of wickets [on the 1946 tour of England] might have been increased by as many as 40 to 50." Wisden Cricketers' Almanack

Kapil Dev
"Kapil Dev, whether batting, bowling or fielding, is a spectators' delight." Fred Trueman

"He was a fantastic cricketer and he was a great asset for Indian cricket during his time at the helm. He set the pace for them early on and he came to the fore and did wonderfully well - he played like a true champion and was a brilliant leader." Clive Lloyd

MS Dhoni
"He is exceptional. He can play purely as a batsman or as a wicketkeeper. He doesn't jump at the ball while keeping and collects cleanly, moves well. He is a fine leader and has forged the team aggressively. He reads the game well… it helps that he is a wicketkeeper." Wasim Bari

"Dhoni is the kind of guy who will create something and win matches." Kiran More

Anil Kumble
"Anil Kumble became the best cricketer he could be and to me that is worthy of the highest honour. He redefined spin bowling in India, he was a game changer, and he soared above people's initial expectations of him to become a giant in the game. He was one of the most aggressive cricketers India has produced and carried that aggression with unfailing dignity and class." Harsha Bhogle

Javagal Srinath
"As one who has been privileged to watch and comment upon his best bowling displays at home, in England in 1996 and in South Africa in 1996-97, I can say that he made me feel proud to be an Indian." Rajan Bala

"Srinath, by far the quickest Indian bowler of our era, could unsettle the best with the steep bounce he could produce even on unhelpful tracks. Though an underachiever, given the quality of his bowling, he is a perfect foil to Kapil Dev's control and incisive swing." Pradeep Magazine

Erapalli Prasanna
"He could drift the ball either way, and then there was the sharp spin coming off the smoothest use of the wrist. Much as Bradman rated Bill O'Reilly the best bowler he saw, Ian Chappell, who batted in an era rich with spin bowling talent, held a similar opinion of Pras. It's all in the wrist, said Muttiah Muralitharan about his success. Pras had that wonderful wrist that gave him his great range in the air." R Mohan

Suresh Menon is a writer based in Bangalore

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Posted by MannuBhai22 on (September 17, 2010, 21:54 GMT)

I would at any time pick Laxam ahead of Hazare. Also my captain would be Gavaskar rather than Kumble because Kumble is not a guarantee for away tests. Gavaskar was only defensive because of India's strength at that time. In addition to always being shrewd, he showed on several occasions that he can be aggressive too. Remeber World Chmpnshp 85, Melbourne 81. My 12th man would be Zaheer, he would replace Prasanna/Kumble in tests where pitches are conducive to seam bowling. Also my keeper would be Kirmani though I must admit that it will be a tight race between him & Dhoni. What works in favor of Kirmani though is his excellant glovework for both pace & spin alike & his longevity without any injuries. Remember this is a specialist position & batting should not be the criteria as batting in this line up is immensely strong with 2 alrounders (Kapil & Mankad) backing up Sunny, Shewag, Dravid, Sachin & Laxman. Finally Mohinder, Gupte/Chandra, Dhoni-bkup WK & Amar Singh would complete my 16.

Posted by MannuBhai22 on (September 17, 2010, 21:03 GMT)

Except Sharda Ugra, rest of the jury members all got it wrong proving they are no different than the original bunch of jokers.How can any one with good cricketing common sense not pick Laxman. Laxman's average is comparable to the best if his stats as opener are taken away. Moreover the value and stability that Laxman provides to the Indian Middle order can never be measured by stats alone. It is only since Laxman returned to the middle order from being a reluctant opener that India started winning test matches consistently both at home&away and importantly not loosing as many as before. He has been the best crisis man for team India. Most people seem to only remember his magical 281 but he has made innumerable contributions on several occasions to be the difference between a win/draw versus loosing a test match. I would also pick Zaheer Khan as 12th man,he would replace Prasanna/Kumble on pitches conducive to seam bowling both home&away. My captain would be Gavaskar & keeper Kirmani.

Posted by pinalshah on (September 17, 2010, 20:19 GMT)

Interesting to see that there are no left-handed batsman in the line up and only Vinoo Mankad (sla) as a left arm bowler. But I do not recall any good left-handed batsman other than Ganguly and left-arm bowler other than Zaheer and Irfan Pathan...but i guess none of them are good enough to be listed in all time XI...

Posted by RayShaumik on (September 17, 2010, 19:17 GMT)

@Neil247.. thanks for your observation...I also looked into some filtered search and if you think that Sri Lanka is a half decent cricketing nation, i hope you will consider Zimbabwe and Bangladesh as minnows or you would like to think them as superpowers? The average of Sachin is 52.83 as compared to Lara with 52.53 (leaving out Zimbabwe and Bangladesh as opponents out in both cases)

As far as averages is concerned, i HOPE you understand that averages are inflated by the number of Not Outs and had Lara been Not Out as many times as Sachin has been in his career, his average would have been:57.19 as compared to Sachin's 56.02. So if you bother to filter away/home matches also filter Zimbabwe/Bangladesh as opponents and number of not outs..

Posted by viks_j on (September 17, 2010, 12:41 GMT)

Once again it has been proved that INDIA will never acknowledges he contribution of LAXMAN. He has played various match winning knock and match saving too.

Posted by Navillus on (September 17, 2010, 10:11 GMT)

And to counter the cavalier XI let me present the stuffy XI ... players who would never give way to flourish at the cost of runs or wickets. Whose motto is defence is the best offense. Who would play with a bat that redefined dead, and would bowl as negative a line as to frustrate even Chris Tavare into losing patience.

Geoff Boycott, Hanif Mohammed, Chris Tavare, Jimmy Adams, Samaraweera, Trevor Bailey, Jack Russel, Ravi Shastri, Grant Flower, Bapu Nadkarni, Fannie de Viliers

Which eleven would you pay to watch?

Posted by Navillus on (September 17, 2010, 9:29 GMT)

Let us look at a world eleven of cavaliers ... the one who played for providing and extracting immense delight, pulled the crowd to the grounds and did not disappoint on most occasions.

Say Victor Trumper opens with Mustaq Ali, Australian flamboyance without the stubborn hard Aussie character, with Oriental quickness of eye and feet, someone who uses the bat as a paintbrush. At one down enters Denis Compton, not one hair out of place with heavy Brylcream. At 2 down it is David Gower, each innings a Shakespearean sonnet, reverting to the jester on occasions when he throws his wicket away, at 5 enters Mohammed Azharuddin, the lithe young version, wrists working the ball to unthought of corners, at 6 Gilbert Jessop, croucher who can slam bang, at seven Keith Miller, at eight dare I put the young long maned Dhoni before he became captain? at 9,10,11 strides in Arthur Mailey, the profligate leg spinner, Shoaib Akhtar and jeff Thomson. More such XIs at http://navillusgames.blogspot.com

Posted by Navillus on (September 17, 2010, 9:19 GMT)

Let us try to set the field. Kapil opening the bowling on a helpful track. Gavaskar, Tendulkar and Dravid in the slips. Kumble at gully, Sehwag(?) at short leg (last time he was there, he almost divided the cricketing world courtesy Mike Dennes), Srinath at fine leg, Mankad at md on, Hazare at extra cover ... that leaves Prasanna at point .. well...

For Prasanna on a spinning track ... Kapil at slip, Dravid silly point, Sehwag forward short leg, Gavaskar backward short leg, if silly mid on is required, Tendulkar ... Mankad at mid on, Srinath deep fine leg, Hazare patrolling the mid wicket, Kumble somewhere in the offside, waiting for his next over ...

I think the fielding side is okay ... not brilliant, but decent ... only one needs to hide Prasanna somewhere

Posted by vish57 on (September 17, 2010, 7:28 GMT)

As a person who follows Cricket since 1965, I need to congratulate the selection of All time XI; while the younger generation may feel the absence of VVS Laxman or S.Ganguly, they are not as consistent in their entire career of test cricket like Dravid or Tendulkar ; like Laxman or Ganguly even GR Vishwanath, BS Chandrasekhar and BS Bedi played great cricket for India. No doubt Prasanna is a class above all as spinner. Once again cudos for an unbiased selection. Crickinfo can consider "hall of fame" for Indian cricketers.

Posted by Neil247 on (September 17, 2010, 4:46 GMT)

Gang-who-ly?? Surely you guys cannot be serious? Perhaps ,just perhaps in the ODI team. But not in the Test team.

Posted by Neil247 on (September 17, 2010, 4:44 GMT)

@rayshaumik.If you bother to read my comments properly you may understand.By the way, sure you take out Tendulkars score you mention he will still avg near 56.Lara's overall career avg. goes well below 50, the benchmark for a great batsman...but like I said, if you even bother to read my previous comments properly you may-just may-understand. And of course,one thing cannot be denied- SL is the only half decent cricketing nation where Lara avg more than 50 "away".

Posted by prashant1 on (September 17, 2010, 4:41 GMT)

Sachin=GOAT. All time World XI. 5 Sachins, 5 Warnes,1 Gilly.

Posted by RayShaumik on (September 17, 2010, 3:20 GMT)

@ Joydeep_Gupta, not funny at all actually... Indian all time XI team cannot AFFORD a middle order batsman with a mediocre avg of 40 and ONLY 17 test centuries in 113 tests (ALL OTHER BATSMAN FROM ANY OTHER TEAM , take Strauss, Amla, Martyn even Sarwan .. and there are loads of others) who has better record than him.. And India can't also afford a captain who boasts of Overseas test series wins against ONLY Zimbabwe and Bangladesh (9 out of 21 test wins are against MINNOWS) .. HOW CAN THE TEAM AFFORD IT??

Posted by Vivek_Singh on (September 17, 2010, 3:02 GMT)

To the numerous fans arguing that Ganguly must be part of an all time Indian XI -

Ganguly was a great captain - one of the greatest India has ever had, if not THE greatest captain. But he simply can't justify his place in an all time XI on the basis of his playing skills.That's a BIG problem. If you can't find a good leader in all your cricket history who would also automatically warrant his place on the basis of his playing skills, it is a really sorry state of affairs.

You first pick the 11 best players and then choose a captain from among them, not the other way round.Ganguly isn't close to being one of the top 5 test batsmen in Indian history, and if you pick him based on his captaincy skills (his fielding was terrible and test bowling of no consequence), its another way of saying that India has never produced a truly great player who was also a fine leader. Its the reason why Clive Lloyd didn't get into the WI XI despite arguably being his country's best captain ever.

Posted by cricamateur on (September 16, 2010, 21:36 GMT)

These cricketers have not only great attributes on the field but also off the field...I would say they are not just the golden boys of cricket, but THEY PIONEERED THE GOLDEN AGE OF CRICKET IN INDIA

Posted by   on (September 16, 2010, 21:09 GMT)

It seems to be that what we have here is a popularity contest rather than pure merit.

As always, the Amarnath's lose in this type of contest.

I wish Lala's son hired a PR firm to add some post retirement gloss to both his career and that of his father.

Public memory is short. Long live PR.

Posted by Nampally on (September 16, 2010, 20:56 GMT)

@MiddleStump & Bamarolls: Your discussion on the indian fielding is interesting. This is the weakest point - catching, ground fielding and fast running while chasing the ball. Just moving away from your discussion let us focus on the selected All Time India XI. There are a number of good slip fielders like Dravid, Tendulkar, Gavaskar. Hazare can be at mid off and Mankad at mid on. Kapil & Srinath can run in the outfield - third man & fine leg. Kapil is good but Srinath average. There is no fielder with credentials at the key covers specialist position.If Umrigar was in he was brilliant in covers or at any position. Prasanna is a liability at any position. Dhoni is an OK wicket keeper but has missed many key chances already in Indian losses. Kumble & Sehwag are acceptable fielders. So this All Time India XI is rather disjointed fielding team - average to weak. It appears the Jurors paid Zero attention to fielding.Catches win matches. How will this team win with such poor fielding ?

Posted by JoydeepGupta on (September 16, 2010, 20:10 GMT)

This is funny. You can not build all time India XI without Saurav Ganguly..!!

Posted by RayShaumik on (September 16, 2010, 19:59 GMT)

@ Neil 247.. while you are deducting Lara's 375 and 400 against ''disinterested bowling, dead rubbers etc etc'' can you also deduct Sachin's recent 202 against SL when Murali and Malinga were not playing and in DEAD PITCHES as well ( and how much didi he score when either Malinga or murali were playing he he), his unability to get a 100 against WI in WI in the 1990s when Walsh and Ambrose were bowling (he got when Pedro Collins Who??, Mervyn Dillon Who???) HAHA HA HA.... Don't get me started ....lolz

Posted by MiddleStump on (September 16, 2010, 17:58 GMT)

@Bamrolls: I do not dislike Kumble. But no way he gets ahead of any of the quartet. Being long in the tooth, I have seen 9 of this 11 in action at test and 1st class levels. Prasanna said Kumble would struggle to find a place in the 70s and I agree. Chandras record is more impressive because in those days there were few tests in a year, no one dayers, no coaches etc. One had to maintain form for a year without playing a test. It is easier if you are playing matches 12 months/year. Also the biggest fielding disaster was Prasanna with the physique of a sumo wrestler. There were also characters like P. Sharma and Kanitkar with plenty of blubber. Edges to 3rd man fetched two runs easily. Vishy was ok close in. Chandra was decent in the outfield by comparison. My educated guess is that we can subtract a couple of runs from the bowling averages of the 70s when comparing with the current era of bowlers. Anyway, I was pointing out that Menon's conclusion was wrong and based on sentimentality.

Posted by testcricketrocks on (September 16, 2010, 15:59 GMT)

I think choosing MS Dhoni ahead of Farok Engineer for test matches is outrageous. Dhoni will be the first choice keeper in one-dayers but not clearly in tests. Engineer played better bowlers, kept to difficult bowlers and overall fought in difficult circumstances when batting was difficult. According to a recent article in Cricinfo you can increase his batting average with 5 points to compare with modern day batters who does not face quality bowling. Also selecting Srinath instead of Zaheer Khan who has one of the better strike rates of all Indian bowlers seems odd. Even Mohd Nissar would come ahead of Srinath. Sorry, Sri did shoulder the burden of fast bowling for a long time but that doesn't make him an all time great. Rest of the selection looks apt but does lack an aggressive captain like Ganguly who however does not have the batting skills of Hazare.

Posted by Umangbhatt on (September 16, 2010, 15:14 GMT)

Any All Time Indian XI without Vijay Merchant is I think not complete. Vijay Merchant was an opener in Classic Mould and has the First class average of around 75. He just cannot be ignore. Virender Sehvag is a Great Batsman and Probably he is in contention for All TIme World XI also. But when We are choosing an All Time XI is it necessary to Stick to Number at which Batsman will play ? Sehvag should be considered for Batting at One Down Spot. Then we can consider Vijay Merchant for opening slot. When we have great middle order Batsman like Tedulkar and Dravid and to be followedby Vinoo Mankad, Dhoni and Kapil Dev in the Lower Middle order we can consider dropping Vijay Hajare. Otherwise All TIme XI chosen by jury is best.

Who will be the opponants ? ? ?

Posted by Bamarolls on (September 16, 2010, 15:00 GMT)

@MiddleStump: Good comparison of averages - I like Chandra too. Yet, Anil has earned the averages over lot more matches and has achieved multiple of Chandra's success. I give one of the tie-breaker points betweeen the two to Anil. You mentioned poor fielders during Chandra's time - let's name the two biggest culprits: Vishy and Chandra. If fielding is a criteria, once again the edge should go to Anil - slightly different context than your argument, but within the general context of playing cricket and winning. Fielding is and must be a major componenet in differentiating greatness.

Posted by NALINWIJ on (September 16, 2010, 14:54 GMT)

I agree with the balance of this side which differed from my choices with selection of DHONI,SRINATH,PRASANNA ahead of KIRMANI,ZAHEER KHAN,CHANDRASEKHAR. At number 8 India could pick the best keeper in KIRMANI and this would strengthen the attack.Eventhough there is little between Hazare,Vishy and Laxman at 5 Hazare could bowl first change if needed and is a better bat and bowler than Surav or Jimmy. How about comparing Indian side since nov 89 with the past. Recent XI-SHEWAG, GHAMBIR, DRAVID,TENDULKAR,LAXMAN, GANGULY, DHONI, HARBAJAN, KUMBLE, ZAHEER KHAN, SRINATH versus PAST XI- GAVASKAR, MERCHANT, VISHVANATH, HAZARE, MANKAD, KAPIL DEV, KIRMANI, AMAR SINGH, NISSAR MOHOMMOD, GUPTE, PRASSANNA OR CHANDRASEKHAR.

Posted by nivek123 on (September 16, 2010, 14:41 GMT)

@eddy501... Yeah your right about not taking a players good innings out of his average. But the guy was just responding to a person who put the same yardstick for Tendulkar.

Posted by   on (September 16, 2010, 14:19 GMT)

I don't think Dhoni is the best Indian keeper ever.... and with his record in tests he definitely does not make the XI.... Kirmani was an obvious choice..... that apart..... this is indeed a great attack!!!! :D

Posted by Neil247 on (September 16, 2010, 14:18 GMT)

@Eddy501. Oh, and Eddy-sorry. Can't replace Tendulkar with anyone. The Don and Tendulkar in ANY World XI. The rest will depend on the time,place,etc. For eg. you wouldn't want Lara to play Aus in Aus, but would definitely pick him for Sri Lanka. Richards too warn't quite so good away in some places. but great at home...etc etc...All in all,if Tendulkar couldn't get you the runs, match after match,year after year,condition after changing condition,home and away, pace or spin...Noone could (With one caveat ofcourse- injury free)...Tendulkar injured in the mid 2000s was even out of the Top 20 guys in batting terms.

Posted by Neil247 on (September 16, 2010, 14:11 GMT)

@Eddy501.Re"@ Neil247...........are you really being serious here? Are you for real?"...You are absolutely RIGHT. I am simply replying to "Kaze"...and his warped logic.I mean every player at some point is going to get both easy and tough runs. For eg. "Kaze" could easily make the argument that Federer when playing real competition such as Nadal is 7-14, therefore he is actually "mediocre".This not only reveals his particular mindset but also his fundamental lack of sporting knowledge. There is no bias against Lara, i love the guy. However, As you so very rightly hint at , it is high time we start RESPECTING the absolute Legends of our game.

Posted by Navillus on (September 16, 2010, 14:03 GMT)

Talk of inadequacy of a line up? The Kiwis are here. Playing on a turning Kanpur wicket.

During the photoshoot prior to the match, the spinners from the two sides stand together for a photoraph. Mankad, Kumble, Prasanna and ... Vettori.

After this, Vettori approaches Turner and whispers - do you think we should go ahead with the match?

Batting first NZ score 230, thanks to a fluent 123 by Martin Crowe, playing his first five day game in India. After the first six overs Kapil takes up his position in short extra cover and Srinath goes on his long awaited trip to Tirupati. Kumble picks 5, Mankad 3 and Pras 2.

India bat now ... the rest will soon be posted in http://navillusgames.blogspot.com

Posted by Navillus on (September 16, 2010, 13:54 GMT)

Ferozeshah Kotla - dusty minefield. Again a team that does not fit in all conditions. In the nets, one can watch wasim akram take tips on slow left arm bowling from Bishen singh Bedi. pissed off at the conspiracy of all the selectors in omitting him from all their teams, Bedi shows akram what needs to be done to pick up wickets on such a track ... only Qadir in the team as a spinner. Pakistan bats and after Kapil removes Anwar, it is a Mankad, Prasanna, Kumble show. Wickets fall regularly and with Miandad falling lbw to Kumble, and Inzamam run out, they fold for 237. Akram and Younis start tidily, but the slowness of the track nullify their pace. Qadir starts bowling early, but is destroyed by first Sehwag and then Tendulkar. Zaheer Abbas is called upon to bowl leg spinners. Fazal Mehmood asks whether he can install mats. India pile on the runs freely till Akram returns with the old ball, round the wicket, to take a quick five for. But Indians have taken a valuable 130 run lead...

Posted by Navillus on (September 16, 2010, 13:44 GMT)

Mumbai dustbowl ... England plays India

Just so that everyone realises that the xi's of all the countries are skewed likewise.

Trueman rushes in to bowl, and then his jaw drops as he sees Knott collecting the ball on the second bounce. Larwood drinks a couple of bottles of modern day frozen electrolyte juice after seeing his back breaking bouncers disappearing over point off Sehwag's blade. By lunch Underwood has already bowled 6 overs and Pietersen and Hutton are told to warm up to send down a few overs. Underwood does pick up six, and Larwood and Trueman share the tail, but a big hundred by Sehwag and fifties by Sachin, Hazare and Kapil see India to 447. When England bats, Hutton, Hobbs and Hammond, who have never read spinners off the hand, find life difficult against Prasanna and Kumble on an unpredicatble track. By the end of the second day, Kumble 4/57 and Prasanna 2/41 have England tottering at 146/7. Botham's quickfire hundred on the 3rd day, enables Eng avoid folllow on.

Posted by eddy501 on (September 16, 2010, 12:23 GMT)

An increadible top order line up.....Sunny, Sehwag, Dravid and Tendulkar. Two genuine legends of world cricket ever (sunny, sachin) and maybe one on the way (sehwag) and of course the Wall. Flair, defence, stability, attack, determination, heart and most important HUGE runs!. they would definately be my choice for top four batters in the all-time XI's. However if i was picking the team with the best 3, 4,5,6 i dont think you could better Headley, Lara, Richards, Sobers!

Posted by shri619 on (September 16, 2010, 12:18 GMT)

the awards and choosing the all time XI is just a joke i don't know they make such tings every player is great who have played for there country. saying somebuddy is better than him is totally worng. many players are not on this list(all the all time XI TEAMS INCLUDING AUS,ENG) played good cricket. it is not fare to say that other playres not played good cricket.making all time XIlist is insulting to other players so don't make such a list and waste time.

Posted by eddy501 on (September 16, 2010, 12:15 GMT)

@ Neil247...........are you really being serious here? Are you for real? How on earth can you look at a player's career or average or performances by taking out an inning here or an inning there?????????? Why dont you just take out 3 or 4 of Lara's ducks as well while your at it!!!

By far the most stunted, backward and ridiculous sugestion i have ever read on the game of cricket.

Posted by   on (September 16, 2010, 11:26 GMT)

Ref.Six of the All Time Great Indian cricket XI are recent players a comment by Mr.Menon. Dear Sir, It shows intellectual bankruptcy of the Members of the Jury. Sehwag (with no footwork),Dhoni,Srinath and Kumble be replaced by Merchant,Engineer or Kirmany,Nisar and S.O.Gupte. It shows their level and the effect of Media which brings glory and money to much less talented players. dr.shrikant.desai

Posted by dr_sachinfan_chennai on (September 16, 2010, 11:25 GMT)

All Time T20 XI for India : ( I have not taken into account the IPL form and records and have not considered Master who just played 1 T20 for India or any of those players who never got to play in T20 era like Kapil, Cheeka etc.) :- Shewag, Gambhir, Raina, Yuvraj Singh, Dhoni, Rohith Sharma, Irfan Pathan, Harbhajan, Zaheer Khan, Sreesanth, Praveen Kumar... Here top order picks itself upto no 5 and Rohith being better than Kohli and DK in this format with few half centuries bats at no 6. Irfan is best all rounder to have played for India in T20 era. Zak and Bhajji are easy picks. I picked Sree 'coz not on basis of todays' form but do remember that Semis in 2007 WC where he tormented the Aussies. On his day like that he can be menace. Praveen is picked 'coz with Zak and Irfan, Nehra if picked can make the attack unidimensional. In matches in subcontinent Ojha replaces Sree.

Posted by dr_sachinfan_chennai on (September 16, 2010, 11:17 GMT)

My all Time India ODI XI : Shewag, Tendulkar, Dravid, Ganguly,Yuvraj Singh, Kapil Dev, Dhoni, Srinath, Zaheer, Harbhajan, Kumble... Dada poses good challenge but Viru is better as opener and more so Dada can bat in middle order too. SRT is unanimous pick. Dravid is best at No 3 in 50 0vers format too. Ganguly is accomodated here since Viru opens with Mater. Yuvi though has got stiff challenge from Azar and Jadeja. Azar must have been picked but since already there are steady players in Dravid, Dada and SRT( He on ocassions can play as per need) I go with Yuvi whose an impact player than Azar or Jadeja. Kapil Dev again is unanimous allrounder and MSD in this section is unanimous as keeper. Sri and Zak are again easy picks and mind u Agarkar has a chance atleast by stats. Kumble and Bhaj easily best in ODI since the quatret did not play much matches and did not make an impact in this format as these two. As for captaincy despite two WC winning captains in Dev and Dhoni its Dada to lead..

Posted by   on (September 16, 2010, 11:01 GMT)

My pick for All Time Test XI for ASIA : Shewag, Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendulkar, Zaheer Abbas, Sangakkara(WK), Imran Khan (Cap), Akram, Kumble. Muralitharan, Waqar... I feel an Indian, a Pakistani & a Srilankan 'ld be unanimous choices - Tendulkar, Imran Khan & Murali. As for openers, with due respects to Hanif Mahmood, SMG pips his off for his better records. Shewag is chosen as fire brand opener ahead of Sanath 'coz he can be unstoppable than Sanath on his day. Dravid I have chosen ahead Inzi/Miandad/Aravinda/ Mahela 'coz his records everywhere. Abbas I feel can be better than Inzi or others just because of his skills and games. Since am not to disturb RD-SRT combo at 3&4, he bats at 5. Sanga being better bat than Imran bats at 6 and is WK. Kumble is the leggie for his fighting spirit and will ahead of Qadir or Mushy. Akram is Left arm Pacer ahead of Vaas and Waqar pips for last pace spot ahead oof f Kapil and Akthar. Now SRT, Imran and Murali walks in unopposed for thier spots.

Posted by Neil247 on (September 16, 2010, 9:42 GMT)

@Kaze. And since you obviously haven't followed the career of the greatest batsman of all time- here's another fact. "Minus" the inn. where Tendulkar played with either an injury or as in 2004 was literally forced to come back for 2 Tests vs Aus after India got thrashed in the first 2 tests. He was still clearly struggling with tennis elbow and due to the additional stress then imposed he then had to go for surgery. Remove or "minus" just those injury ridden 4 inn. and you get an avg vs Aus of 59.5. But that ofcourse will somehow escape your attention. I suggest you actually watch and learn something about cricket first, instead of sitting on statsguru and filtering out stats of your chosing.

Posted by   on (September 16, 2010, 9:36 GMT)

It shocking to see that people are blinded by the selfish achievements Dravid is the best middle-order test batsmen we have had....And his 10 K runs even in one-days prove that he can walki into the ALL TIME INDIAN ONE-DAY X1 as well very easily

Posted by Neil247 on (September 16, 2010, 9:23 GMT)

@Kaze. Similarly, Lara's avg minus his two triple plus inn. on absolutely dead tracks, vs disinterested bowling, in dead rubbers dips to well below 50. You want me to continue?Lara is a hometown bully who has filled his boots at home and mostly in dead rubbers. The ONLY country he avg above 50 away is the uber cricket nation of Sri Lanka. I suggest you think 10 times before revealing your utter lack of cricketing knowledge by "minusing" inn. as you see fit to "prove" some preconceived premise of yours. Barring Bradman(actually him too) you will always, always find "loopholes" to can "data mine" as you see fit to support your delusions. I also suggest you think 20 times before revealing your complete ignorance of cricket in general and especially when it concerns the Greatest batsman of All time- TENDULKAR.

Posted by Neil247 on (September 16, 2010, 9:10 GMT)

@Kaze. Lara's avg. vs Aus in Aus is 41.97. Minus his big double in Sydney his avg in Aus is 35. Similarly, Lara's avg vs Eng overall is 48.76.. Minus his Nottingham runs and his avg is 43.8. Case closed, Beyond mediocre. Pathetic really.

Posted by Navillus on (September 16, 2010, 8:59 GMT)

The jury was paid to do a job and as happens in official meetings, each one wanted to make his presence felt by being different. Sambit Bal and Pradip Magazine opted for Mohinder Amarnath, Harsha Bhogle for Umrigar, Ram Guha wanted to show he knew more about history than anyone else and so chose CK Nayudu, Arun lal obviously was not briefed properly, for he chose Lala Amarnath at number 9 ... as a bowling allrounder, Sanjay Manjrekar thought he could bring his own originality by chosing Gupte over Kumble, Ayaz wanted a pace based attack, R Mohan and Vasu Paranjape made their choices over three bottles of Vat 69. All of you who are wondering, they are the ones who omitted Dravid. Paranjape chose MAK Pataudi instead .. with a difference of 18 in average alone, and 24 in centuries. I guess Sharda Ugra was the only one who went by stats and realised 3 spinners won't work in Perth, Sabina Park, Durban etc. He was the only one who chose Laxman. But, this is how it happens in the corp world.

Posted by ashishkumar36 on (September 16, 2010, 8:50 GMT)

@ sub2010, Cricinfo has provided...the only difference is, Laxman in place of Great Hazare.

Posted by Rajesh. on (September 16, 2010, 8:40 GMT)

Would be nice if Cricinfo can publish how many votes each of them got in the READER'S CHOICE ELEVEN.................

Posted by siddharthpatni on (September 16, 2010, 7:14 GMT)

What i find shocking about this All Time Indian XI is the fact that Dravid & Kumble were not unanimous picks. The ones to not pick them really thought we have a better No.3 than Dravid? Or even a better match winner spinner than Kumble? This just doesn't do justice to Dravid's record and contribution to some of the most memorable wins away from home where none of the Indian batsmen in the past have even come close to making an impact, let alone being the highest contributor in terms of % of runs scored of the total team's score. It is a pity that some of the greats of Indian cricket never got their due and the ones to not pick them serve up a mean reality that they are too blinded by only the Tendulkars & the Gavaskars...

Posted by   on (September 16, 2010, 7:08 GMT)

appears like ... for bowling and sustainance...India always depended on Karnataka and for batting on Mumbai....!! what really is missing from this team is the Hyderabadi.. silky touch in the form of VVS!! rest ...rest .. a well balanced side... i would partially agree with jury on Kumble as captain...but for me Kapil da jawab nahi..as captain!!

Posted by sub2010 on (September 16, 2010, 6:37 GMT)

Cricinfo did not provide the readers choice 11 - or maybe i have missed it.

Posted by   on (September 16, 2010, 5:51 GMT)

There is lot of talk on the weakness of the Indian attack. All the frontline bowlers have bowling averages around 30, but this only reflects the fact that for most of their careers Mankad, Kapil, Srinath and Kumble had to carry the attack on their shoulders without much support at the other end. Depending upon the conditions and team composition, they were reduced to being both the stock as well as strike bowler. They will surely relish bowling in tandem, with the great Prasanna's guile to complement them, a decent score on the board to play with (expected from this batting line-up), and very good catchers in Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendulkar and Kapil himself. For an Indian cricket fan with little to cheer about team performances till the arrival of the recent "golden age", to imagine all these greats bowling together is a mouth-watering prospect.

Posted by sbansban on (September 16, 2010, 5:18 GMT)

Given that our bowling is such a concern, why pack the team with batsmen down to number eight with nine players who have test centuries? Sure, we would need every single one of them against Lillee, McGrath, Miller / Marshall, Holding, Sobers/ Larwood, Tyson, S. F. Barnes et al, but a better option might be, as many have suggested, to include Nissar ("faster than Larwood" per C. B. Fry!!!!). My candidate for omission (very, very reluctantly) would be the fifth batsman Hazare / Laxman. My XI had Amar Singh also in place of Srinath in addition to Nissar and that's something I would still suggest, though I was surprised to see that Amar Singh has an average of 30.64 and a strike rate of 77.9 which are actually worse than Srinath's figures of 30.49 and 64.0! But Srinath never got the kind of really heavy praise from the likes of Hutton in 1970 (There is no better bowler in the world today than Amar Singh,'' , Hammond and Wisden - so that's what tilted the scales in Amar Singh's favor.

Posted by sbansban on (September 16, 2010, 4:55 GMT)

One thing I never realized before going through this whole ATXI exercise is that India just doesn't have ANY bowlers averaging in the low twenties (except Jasu Patel, who only played 7 tests). That's shocking, given the hype around our "great" spin tradition and all that. So, yes, the many readers' comments pointing out that this bowling attack will have a hard time against other ATXI's are spot on and is my biggest takeaway from the series.

Posted by Kaze on (September 16, 2010, 4:30 GMT)

Sachin Tendulkar overall average vs Australia 56 , overall average vs Australia minus his Sydney runs 45, case closed mediocre.

Posted by cantwaittosee on (September 16, 2010, 4:25 GMT)

Somebody on the jury voted not have Rahul Dravid in the XI. LOL.

Posted by RayShaumik on (September 16, 2010, 3:19 GMT)

To senaiki :

Very Well Said. Great to see some apart from ME actually KNOWS the STATS!!!

All the people asking for the inclusion of Ganguly please find a modern age batsman FROM ANY COUNTRY whose average is LESS than Ganguly's and ANY CAPT FROM ANY COUNTRY WHO HAS 9 TEST WINS AGAINST ZIMBABWE and BANGLADESH

Posted by VivaVizag on (September 16, 2010, 3:15 GMT)

@Navillus: .......been waiting O_O

At what time does the streakers jump in? ;-)

Posted by   on (September 16, 2010, 2:25 GMT)

I agree lot with this XI, which is weaker than Australia, England, West Indies on away and neutral soil; and Against Australia it will lose in home :)[Warne & O Rielly can mow down Indian batting]

A few changes: *Dhoni as the captain when he is selected; a bowler made captain overbowls or underbowls himself; Kumble is mainstay of bowling; he wasnt considered test captain before he was near his dusk- Dhoni was in little time

*We can keep the no 5 volatile; Laxman in most of the pitches, Vishwanath in truly fast pitches ; people from this age have played more tests with much higher expectations..... no one bothers about a 281 from Laxman when he doesnt score 2 matches; where as one test sealed Hazare's stardom despite of a defeat :D

*India will be playing to win, not to teach the art of spin bowling (which Indians dont understand anyway). Chandrashekhar could win matches for India in Aus,Eng,India - Ian Chappell's praise is NO MATCH for Viv Richard's struggle against Chandrashekhar

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 22:01 GMT)

ulysses, why do you think this team is weak in bowling department. this team has 5 specialist batsmen 1 wicket keeper and 5 specialist bowlers. out of these 5 bowlers there are 2 allrounders (kapil and vinoo mankad). the changes you are suggesting does not change the team composition at all. you are removing one specialist batsman and taking another specialist batsman. you are taking one specialst bowler mankad (who has taken almost 4 wickets per test) with another bowler. the only difference is mankad is much better batsman than your suggested bowler.

Posted by Rajesh. on (September 15, 2010, 21:19 GMT)

1) Sunil Gavaskar 2) Virender Sehwag 3) Rahul Dravid 4) Sachin Tendulkar 5) G.R.Vishwanath 6) VVS Laxman 7) Kapil Dev 8) Syed Kirmani (wk) 9) Anil Kumble (captain) 10) Javagal Srinath 11) Erapalli Prasanna

Posted by MiddleStump on (September 15, 2010, 21:09 GMT)

Menon concludes...Chandrasekhar had to make way for Anil Kumble with his superior record and aggressive outlook.. Hmm. Here are their records - average, economy, and strike rates. Let us look at them assuming Menon bothered to do so. Kumble: 29.65 2.69 65.9. Chandra: 29.74 2.70 65.9. Chandra was just as aggressive as Kumble even though he was one of 3 spinners in the team. Kumble played for years as the lead attack spinner, sometimes as the only spinner. Chandra often had to bowl virtually with a new ball since there were no pacers. Kumble has a marginally better average but the standards in the outfield had improved considerably from the 70s when runs were gifted. So how can Menon justify his conclusion? Sadly he cannot. Menon can go ga-ga with the current era being the golden age. But one could easily justify replacing Hazare with Amarnath or Viswanath. Then the 70s would be the golden age. Overall a pathetic article. Fact is only Kapil and the top 4 in the order are unanimous.

Posted by Rajesh. on (September 15, 2010, 21:05 GMT)

NO LAXMAN = BIGGEST JOKE !!

But one thing that I completely agree is the choice for captaincy.... Kumble has been the most under-rated captain to have led India, much like how Laxman has been the most under-rated of all the batting greats.... If Kumble had got the job earlier (which he should have) he would have become India's most successful and perhaps it's best captain. So, in my opinion ANIL KUMBLE is the ideal choice for captaincy.

Also wanna know if Cricinfo would publish the individual eleven's of all the selectors !!

Posted by Ulysses on (September 15, 2010, 19:25 GMT)

This team is too weak from a bowling standpoint. With Kapil & MS in the team, why play the extra batsman/ allrounder? I would replace Vijay Hazare with someone like Vishy or Ganguly, and bring in another world class spinner like Chandra or Gupte instead of Mankad. So my best X1 would be Sehwag, Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendulkar, Vishy, MSD, Kapil, Kumble, Srinath, Pras & Chandra, with Ganguly, Mankad, Zaheer and Gupte serving as the extra batsman, allrounder, pacer and spinner to make a 15 member squad.

Posted by Mittaraghava on (September 15, 2010, 19:20 GMT)

I agree with all the players selected in the India All Time X1 ,except WK Dhoni.Firstly Dhoni is not selected as a captain.Secondly if he is selected for his batting skill,he is much inferior to Farook Engineer,who was brilliant attacking batsman with authentic cricketing strokes and a dependebale ,stylish and flamboyant cricketer.as for wicket keeping skills ,Engineer was equally good and kept wickets to the great 4 spinners with different bowling styles,which was indeed creditable.

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 15, 2010, 19:01 GMT)

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE CRITERIA FOR JUDGING A PLAYER BY THE PERSONS WHO ARE WRITING THEIR COMMENTS. SOME JUDGES OLD CRICKETERS ARE GOOD AND SOME WANT NEW CRICKETERS. EVERYBODY HAVE ITS CHOICES AND SELECTIONS BUT DONT CRITICISE THEMSELVES...........HE IS NOT GOOD HERE AND THERE. TODAYS CRICKETERS ARE ALWAYS DEMANDED MORE BUT YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT THE PAST. YOU SEE AN EXAMPLE............. WISDEN CRICKETER OF INDIA NAMED AS KAPIL DEV BUT THE PEOPLE CHOICE WAS SACHIN AT THAT TIME. BECAUSE AT THAT TIME KAPIL HAD A LEGENDRY STATUS AND NOW IF YOU CHOOSE BEST INDIAN CRICKETER THEN IT WOULD BE CERTAINLY SACHIN. TIME PLAY A MAJOR ROLE FOR THE GREATNESS. NOW SACHIN IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND NOBODY CAN DENY HIM. IF HE MADE 15 ZEROS CONTINUOUSLY THEN HE WOULD BE SAME SIMILARLY IF HE MADE 15 HUNDREDS CONTINUOUSLY THEN IT WOULD BE SAME. HE IS ONE OF THE BEST AND ALWAYS REMAIN SAME. SO YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU ARE CRITICISING SOMEONE LIKE SRT

Posted by Navillus on (September 15, 2010, 19:00 GMT)

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Posted by anikbrad on (September 15, 2010, 18:27 GMT)

4 names are debatable rest are fine - HAZARE , PRASANNA, DHONI, SRINATH. . FOR ME LAXNAM OR AZAR WERE CONTENDERS WITH HAZARE OK SELECTION NOT BIG FUSS. DONI FOR KIRMANI 70-30 I WOULD HAVE GONE FOR KIRI BUT DHONI NOT VERY POOR CHOISE. PRASSANA VS GUPTE. GUPTE WAS BETTER ANY DAY ANY PITCH ANY TIME BUT IF ONE ARGUES 2 SPINERS KUMBLE AND VINU TAKES BOWL AWAY SO PRASANNA AHEAD OF GUPTE OK FOR TEAM COMPO. BUT SRINATH AHEAD OF NISSAR IS TAKING PONTING AHEAD OF BRAD AS HE HAD MORE RUNS SEE THE FIRST CLASS AVG OF NISSAR AND AMAR THEY ARE EVEN AHEAD OF KAPIL ALSO AND SRINATH IS PICKED. I THOUGHT THERE WERE FEW EXPARTS ANS EXCRIC IN SELECTION TEAM. AUS HAS PICKED VICTOR AHEAD OF PONTING AND G.HADLY AHEAD OF LOYED, SOME SENSE ATLEAST THE I HOPE READERS HAVE SOME CRIC SENSE. I HAV LOST HOPE ON IND SEC KARTICK AHED OF PUJARA AND UTTHAPA AND SRINATH AHEAD OF NISAR AND AMAR. MAY BE GOOD FRIENDS, A CUP OF COFFE, BRIBE. I DONT KOW BUT NOT CRIC AT LEAST. PLEASE IF ONE CAN CONVINCE ME.

Posted by vrghosh on (September 15, 2010, 18:00 GMT)

Nice n balanced all time Indian 11 with greyscale age but the most missing parts are... 1. VVS LAXMAN 2. MD AZAHARUDDING 3. SOURAV GANGULY 4. AMAR SINGH 5. BHAGWAT CHANDRASEKHAR....

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 15, 2010, 17:02 GMT)

@kaze....................ha haha. ARE YOU CRAZY. SYDNEY IS NOT THE BEST GROUND FOR BATTING. YOU CAN SEE THE STATS . BEST GROUNDS ARE ADILAIDE AND HOBART. AND IN SYDNEY AUS AND PAK OUT UNDER 175. ONLY SACHIN AND LAXMAN MADE GOOD RUNS HERE. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT CRICKET..................... NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!! SACHIN IS THE BEST BATSMAN PLAYED IN AUS. SACHIN'S STATS ARE NOT GOOD IN ADILAIDE AND BRISBAINE. PROBABLY ADILAIDE IS THE BEST GROUND FOR BATTING. LARA MADE MOST RUNS IN ADILAIDE AND SYDNEY THEN HE IS A BAD CRICKETER. NO CHECK HIS STATS WITHOUT ADI. AND SYD. AVG=20. AND YOU KNOW AUS UMPIRES GIVEN OUT WRONGLY 4 TIMES IN 1999-00 AND ON 2003. AND NOW WHAT ABOUT YOU SAY........NOTHING BECAUSE YOU ARE JEALOUS FROM SACHIN ACHIEVEMENTS. CHECK SACHIN STATS IN PERTH AND OTHER INDIAN BATSMAN IN 1992 AND 2008. YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERANCE. AT LEAST YOU CANT SAY SACHIN DID NOT PERFORM IN AUS. AT LEAST CHECK THE STATS BEFORE MAKE ANY COMMENT

Posted by bismoy on (September 15, 2010, 16:58 GMT)

@Kaze,,,

for ur kind information .....sachin is most feared player in Australian camp not dravid....infact people who dont understand cricket can put dravid as better than sachin,,,,,,else all know how great dravid is such a poor player against spin...recent sl series comes to mind,,,how great technical batman scored 95 in entire series,,,wheras sachin scored some 397,,,,,so finally that is what called "class difference",alas few people can't understand .......

Posted by bismoy on (September 15, 2010, 16:51 GMT)

The only player which can be truly called "all-time-great" in this list is Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar,all else are only hype...infact opposition player always talk about sachin never heard any bowler telling taking dravid r shwag wicket as his dream.....

Posted by Nampally on (September 15, 2010, 16:50 GMT)

I am sorry Jurors. This is not the All Time India 11. As a minimum there should be at least 3 changes to the selected team. Picking someone like Dhoni as a WK after only 2 years standing in the cricket does great injustice to the greats like Engineer, Kirmani & Kundaram. While Kirmani had a chance to get the readers votes, the other 2 were calmly left out - Why?. Replace Dhoni with Engineer or his understudy Kirmani.Why is Srinath preferred to either Nissar or Amar singh, who drew praise from likes of Hutton, Hammond, Bradman & others. Replace Srinath with either one of these. Umrigar, Hazare & Mankad were the heart & soul of the Indian team for over a decade.Why is Umrigar left out? Replace Prasanna with Umrigar- a good off spinner & aggressive & classic bat like Sehwag. Lastly Subash Gupte is the greatest leg spinner ever produced - ahead of Warne, Benaud & Kumble. He made the ball talk on any wicket & against any batsman.Gupte is so good to deserve a place in All Time World XI.

Posted by Sach_is_Life on (September 15, 2010, 16:43 GMT)

@Kaze..Yeah...we all knew that If Tendulkar didn't do well against any bowling attack or in any conditions 4 some reason, all of a sudden those line ups and conditions become the best in the world and i know if he got a chance 2 face 70s WI bowling line up and in case did well against them, then people like u might've started calling them as crap. Anyway.. almost all the people who actually follow cricket ..knew that Perth was still one of the fastest tracks if not the fastest track in the world when he made his breath taking 100 there..and he had 1 100 and 2 50s fro 8 matches in Melbourne and he just played 2 matches in Brisbane..and i know he didn't do well there and all of a sudden that track became he most difficult track 2 bat in Aus...Keep them coming My Dear..But the fact is Sachin Tendulkar is one of the best players ( May b the Best ) in the history of Modern Cricket against the Fast Bowlers and everyone knows that.

Posted by CricIsCrazy on (September 15, 2010, 16:33 GMT)

Fine hypothetical All time xi. Serves no purpose as there is no way you can compare Old with New, Other countries All time xi with This All time xi. Just a big waste of time.

How can you forget that the current heros grew up looking at their Idols like, Engineer, Solkar, Nissar, Gagulay, Bedi, Chandrashekar, Durrani, just to name a few. Also has it occured to you all that the autor may be biased because he belongs to the current generation.

Looks like the All time xi has been selected based on performance averages which wis not a true barometer. Maybe the bank balance should have been the criteria.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 16:03 GMT)

@Kaze You got that wrong buddy.Sachin played only one test at Brisbane and you can't decide on his batting with that.He also had decent success in Melbourne if you consider he scored a century in 1999.Compare this with Dravid .He flopped miserably in 1999,scored a match winning double hundred again in your flat pitch at Adelaide in 2003 and was out of sorts in the 2007 tour while making those painful runs.Certainly you are not consistent with your observations.Dravid was the best batsman in the Indian Team during 2002-2006 while injuries plagued Sachin every seosen during this time.Tell me one match winning innings of Dravid since 2006.I cant comment on Sunny because I havent seen him play.Sachin is definitely a better ODI batsman than Sunny.

Posted by Percy_Fender on (September 15, 2010, 16:02 GMT)

Suresh Menon has done a fine job about selecting the greatest Indian XI, fictional yet wholesome to people who have followed the game for a few decades. He has finally cobbled up a team that very few can really have a greviance about.But what I found most amusing is that people from Pakistan can use this opportunity to claim that they are and will be the best for life. I wish to tell them that it is essential to have a team and not a couple of fast bowlers tom tomming their greatness. If that was acceptable, Afghanistan with 4 bowlers who bowl at nearly 95 miles an hour all the time should be world champions. West Indies were unmatched some years ago. Today, despite having the likes of Gayle, Edwards, Chanderpaul and Roach, they are still the butt of jokes at te international level. It is much the same with Pakistan. I have seen and known the likes of Zaheer and Imran, Miandad and Wasim. They were truly great. Yet today Pakistan is the object of ridicule. There is more to cricket.

Posted by Tiptop32 on (September 15, 2010, 15:59 GMT)

All time X1 without Ganguly seems to be vague. Don't you guys think he is one of the legends of Indian cricket. It is shame and insult to a great captain and infact to Indian cricket.

Posted by Kaze on (September 15, 2010, 15:14 GMT)

@Tejaswetha Might I respectfully point out that Sachin has boosted his average in Australia by scoring loads at Adelaide and Sydney two of the best batting tracks in the world. He has failed in Brisbane and Melbourne the two better bowling tracks, especially Brisbane which can offer some swing early. Perth was considered the fastest wicket in the world, it has been quite a good batting track for the last 25 years or so. Sehwag is a mediocre player, he is only as good as the bowling attack. He made some runs against an Australian attack missing McGrath and Warne in 2003 and gained a bit of undeserved reputation for that. With his technique he won't last long against quality fast bowling, in an All Time match I would have loved to see a Marshall, Holding, Wasim Akram, McGrath, Lindwall, Lillee make a mess of his ugly technique. The two quality batsmen in this Indian alltime line up are Gavaskar by a loong way and then Dravid.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 15:09 GMT)

Amarnath is the best number 3 for india. I wanted to see gupte in the team along with Mohammad Azharuddin. Both of them have quality and they are really class act. Syed kirmani deserves a chance as WK. Srinath????????????

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 14:55 GMT)

After match fixing in india in 1997,everyone thought India has nothing more in cricket and cap was thrown to Ganguly, He disproved everyone,made a future, raised high breed young guys who are now the future and awarded as best captain of India by ceat ahead of kapildev and what a dishonour to leave him out of alltime INDIA XI

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 14:07 GMT)

@Navillus on which palnet do you reside

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 13:42 GMT)

people are saying that this is the best batting team I dontthink so.West indies has best all time 11 They 4 all time greatest batsmen in headley richards lara adnd sobers And most devastating fast bowlers

Posted by theja07 on (September 15, 2010, 13:26 GMT)

its a mere joke of modern day cricket.......... no all time XI of india cannot be without the stylish hyderabadi(VVS) among his 17 centuries 15 has been match winning or match saving................its useless without vvs

Posted by amit.agarwal on (September 15, 2010, 13:10 GMT)

Dear "Navillus",

appreciate your creativity and request you to please come up with other encounters as well. however, as always, the result of the match was pre-decided... events only facilitate that outcome;

hope you would agree that under the same circumstances, india could have also ended up being the victorious side (australia lost to india at perth... which has been a fortress for the home team). it all depends on the outcome you intend to draw out of a match.

:-)

Posted by senaiki on (September 15, 2010, 12:23 GMT)

All those who are clamouring for Ganguly as the captain - this is not tennis where we can have a non playing captain. Also, if you take out the Zimbabwe and Bangladesh factor from his matches, Sourav emerges as mediocre a leader as a batsman. His NZ tours are worth noticing for all those who think he started India's abroad wins. FYI - he never won a series abroad apart from in Zim and Bang ... and the Pak series he won was led in 2 of the 3 tests by Dravid.

Dhoni in fact has a much better record as a captain. And there are many in this team who can do an excellent job of captaining the side.

Posted by popcorn on (September 15, 2010, 12:17 GMT)

This list is a joke. MS Dhoni has a long way to go. Gundappa Vishwanath and VVS Laxman have been left out.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 11:53 GMT)

Surely Vasu Paranjape might be joking by giving his personal XI as Indian all time XI..LOL..!!

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 9:54 GMT)

where is ganguly ... who will be the captain of this side .... this team is definately not our best team .. either vinoo mankand or kapil dev one of them should have been selected ...another fast bowler is should be taken in his place ... i think Ganguly needs to be in this team

Posted by Navillus on (September 15, 2010, 9:29 GMT)

The India England match at Lords is now complete with scorecard at http://navillusgames.blogspot.com/

If people like it, the rest of the matches will be posted and most of the match ups between the all time XI s in all sorts of conditions.

Posted by Rajesh. on (September 15, 2010, 9:27 GMT)

No Indian all-time XI is complete without VVS Laxman......... What a shame that the man who has played some of the most crucial innings for his team more than even Sachin & Rahul does not find a place in this XI !! Laxman, in my opinion, is as great as Rahul Dravid in the pantheon of Indian Test batting greats. With due respect to Mankad & Hazare leaving Laxman out does not have any justification at all................

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 8:51 GMT)

its amazing that sourav ganguly is not there in top 11 ... he has been the one who demolished if sachin cant i am there to take india to winning note... ofcourse at the end of his retirement he was just lagging in poor form .. its bcci who made him to retire ... i think this is not good judgement to select top 11 .....

Posted by Navillus on (September 15, 2010, 8:40 GMT)

Basin Reserve - India skittled out for 96 with Hadlee bagging 7/37. Dravid top scores with an unbeaten 39. However, soon, Kapil takes 3, Srinath 3 and Hazare chips in with 1 to have the Kiwis 78/7. Here Vettori and Ian Smith adds 132 and ultimately when the innings ends Cowie is run out by a direct throw from mid off, New Zealand leads by 130. In the second innings, Gavaskar puts his head down to score a determined 62, Sachin and Dravid carry India to a lead of 66 before Hadlee removes Dravid and Sachin for some reason falls to Martin Crowe. Hazare bats on with the tail, but the Indians manage to set a target of just 184 on a wicket that has eased a lot. Kapil declares in the dressing room, "we have done it once, we can win ... but I need Kirti Azad, madan lal, Sandhu nad Binny, and an overconfident bunch of batsmen." However, Prasanna gets purchase and Kumble checks the flow of runs. At the end of the 3rd day, NZ are 124/4. What happens next? ....

Posted by Navillus on (September 15, 2010, 8:21 GMT)

Eden Gardens ... India on top, Kapil, Pras and Kumble have combined to dismiss Pakistan to get a big first innings lead after 100s by Sunny and Rahul posted a decent first innings score. Post tea, on the 3rd day, Dravid nears his second century of the match and with Sachin flourishing, India are 350 ahead with 2 down when play has to be suspended. It starts when Sachin misses a pull off Qadir and is given out "arm-pit before Rashid Latif's hat" by Steve Bucknor. He has already been given caught off a thick waft of wind from the outside edge of his bat in the first innings. The Eden crowd, till now burning effigies of Suresh Menon for not picking dada for the team, and of Greg Chappel just for the heck of it, now turn against Bucknor. It is almost universally accepted in the stands, which are now being cleared by white uniformed policemen, that Bucknor wouldn't have dared if Sourav was the skipper.

Posted by Hindh on (September 15, 2010, 7:29 GMT)

@ pak fans check the stats of last 6 years in tests and u will know that pak is worse than NZ and still u talk abt beating india. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;home_or_away=1;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;result=1;result=2;result=3;result=4;spanmin1=1+jan+2004;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team

Posted by Hindh on (September 15, 2010, 7:28 GMT)

the selection is justified and india r in a golden run in test cricket. just check the stats in last 6 years the win loss ratio is better than every team except maybe Aus. http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;home_or_away=1;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;result=1;result=2;result=3;result=4;spanmin1=1+jan+2004;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team

Posted by Psyc_s on (September 15, 2010, 7:21 GMT)

VVS is the only disappointment, if you see this XI, no one will ever give up until the last ball been bowled and most of them are superstars of their generation, they exactly knew to maintain team intregrity which is an absentee in the present Indian team youngsters. They can definitely compete and win with the best. who gave any chance to Kapil Dev's world cup winning team in 1983?

Posted by BullayBaaz on (September 15, 2010, 7:10 GMT)

@hindhind88 why do people like you cheapen yourself and by extention all of us Indians by making disparaging remarks about other nations as you have and stupid regionalism slurs thrown by others.

yeh nah aapko nah humko shobha dayta hai

Posted by BullayBaaz on (September 15, 2010, 6:57 GMT)

I guess it is easy to disagree with the writers so I take the easy route....captain should be Kapil Dev. Yes, this team could beat any other on a given day (certainly at home) but on a consistent basis, let's be honest, couldn't stand up to WI or Australia, probably not even to Pakistan. Why is that? Batting is strong, spinners or good (we have so many good ones that it wouldn't make a difference). But, we have never produced genuine pacemen. The soil and the water is the same so why is it that Pakistan can produce consistent world class fast men and we can't?

And while we might be ranked #1 now, it will not last too long because the new crop of batters can't play the bounce. Less said the better about our bowling.

Posted by UltimateCricExpert on (September 15, 2010, 6:21 GMT)

Just now I have seen the article "Cricket's most frequent team-mates" in cricinfo. It shows Dravid, Sachin & Kumble played 97 test together with 29 wins, 28 lost, 40 draws. Win loss ratio only 1.03. All these three are there in All time XI. This shows how WEAK is India team.

Posted by sbansban on (September 15, 2010, 6:19 GMT)

Cricinfo should now pick an all time world XI.

Posted by sbansban on (September 15, 2010, 6:15 GMT)

Are we going to get a follow-up article explaining the selection logic and the reasons why the candidates who did not make it lost out? It is obvious only in a few, but not in all cases. Also, a more detailed description and analysis of the opinions of the individual selectors as well as an examination of the reader's opinions as reflected in their comments could be of interest. In addition, it would be nice to hear why some obvious contenders didn't even make it to their respective short list let alone the final XI - as in the cases of Farokh Engineer (wk) and Ravi Shastri (allrounder), as has been pointed out by numerous readers. Even if certain players had no chance of making the final XI, the ATXI selction should also be an occasion to reminisce, ruminate, recount and relive - not just to pick the best team and be done with it.

Posted by Hindh on (September 15, 2010, 4:43 GMT)

This is a very good team , The best batting line up in the world and 3 rd highest wicket taker in kumble and Kapil dev with vinoo mankad and prasanna India has a decent bowling and the best batting in the world. they r gonna win more than they lose and that is what matters. And there r no tainted cricketers as in all time Pak team in this all time X1.

Posted by BabaKR on (September 15, 2010, 4:10 GMT)

Its ridiculous not to have VVS Laxman who changed the course of our Test History and is number 4 all timehighest run getter in this XI. The readers picked him and this seems to be the only difference between the Experts XI and Readers XI.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2010, 3:43 GMT)

Where is Laxman? He has been playing many match winning/savings innings lately (not just 281)

Posted by kirksland on (September 15, 2010, 3:16 GMT)

With all of the discussion about what we hope is the next stop of the All-Time train, I present my choice for 1st and 2nd teams. 1st 11 Jack Hobbs, Sunil Gavaskar, Don Bradman, Brian Lara, Sachin Tendulkar, Garfield Sobers, Les Ames, Imran Khan, Malcolm Marshall, Shane Warne, Glen Mcgrath. 2nd 11 Barry Richards, Len Hutton, George Headley, Viv Richards, Wally Hammond, Adam Gilchrist, Keith Miller, Richard Hadlee, Curtly Ambrose, Dennis Lillee, Muttiah Muralitharan. just missed. Herbert Sutcliffe,Matthew Hayden, Greg Chappell, Ricky Ponting, Graeme Pollock, Rahul Dravid,Everton Weekes, Jacques Kallis, Ian Botham,Wasim Akram, Alan Donald, Fred Trueman, Michael Holding,Waqar Younis, Jim Laker, Bill O'Reilly, Allan Knott, Clyde Walcott.

Posted by kirksland on (September 15, 2010, 2:39 GMT)

I know that everyone would have some nationalistic pride when it comes to their country, but India's team leaves much to be desired. Lets start with the strength of the team, the batsmen, of all their players only Sachin truely ranks as an all time great, Gavaskar is routinely credited as being a destroyer of West Indian bowling, but most of his work was during the Packer period, and when the best players returned, he performed creditably but never reached his earlier heights. Sehwag is a great sriker of the ball, but is also a caught gully candidate every ball and can be a hit or miss player and againts a great sustained bowling attack, he can struggle. Dravid is seen as a great match winner, but with his less that fantastic strike rate has been more of a great supporter.Strictly statistically speaking Dev is the most overrated player in test history, and with a bowling averager of above 29 he still has the lowest of the averages of any of the bowlers. The team is GOOD, not great.

Posted by sub2010 on (September 15, 2010, 2:29 GMT)

navallius - some the best commentary i ever read. your posts are the best part of this article.

Posted by sjb550 on (September 15, 2010, 2:26 GMT)

My All Time World XI would be: 1. Sir Jack Hobbs 2. Sunil Gavaskar 3. Sir Donald Bradman (c) 4. Sir Isaac Vivian Richards 5. Sachin Tendulkar 6. Sir Garfield Sobers 7. Adam Gilchrist (wk) 8. Wasim Akram 9. Malcolm Marshall 10. Shane Warne (vc) 11. Glenn McGrath 12th Man - Keith Miller

It is somewhat Australian biased, as I am Australian (e.g. picking Glenn McGrath over Curtly Ambrose). There is good balance, except for the lack of a left hand right hand partnership to open the batting. Malcolm Marshall and Glenn McGrath to open the bowling (McGrath into the wind, Marshall with it). Akram first change, along with Sobers or perhaps Warne - it depends. And if the pitch suits another spinner, then Muralitharan in place of Marshall. I chose Keith Miller as 12th man because he could fill any spot - batsman, bowler, all-rounder, substitute fielder... And for the charisma he would bring onto the field with the drinks.

Posted by SkTrill on (September 15, 2010, 2:22 GMT)

this is a good list but in all honesty, india's best "period" goes by the name of Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar

Posted by New_Wind on (September 15, 2010, 1:46 GMT)

I think batting is being overhyped. The team with sehwag, Dravid and Sachin, Dhoni plus reader's choice Laxman recently crumbled to innings defeat versus Malinga and Murali. Bowling could have been better with Gupte, Chandra, Bedi et al.

Posted by gilbert84 on (September 15, 2010, 1:44 GMT)

For Suresh Menon to call the bowling attack "well balanced" is laughable. There is no getting around the fact that India has never had a genuine fast bowler and apart from Kapil Dev no other medium-pacer can be considered an all-time great. Srinath was a fine bowler, just not of the class one would expect in an all-time greats list. This India side is good, but would lose to every other side featured so far in these lists.

Posted by VMurali63 on (September 15, 2010, 1:10 GMT)

The only false note for me was that Rahul, Anil, and Viru were "nearly" unanimous. Rahul will walk into ANY team as the number 3. Add to that the fact that he constantly sought to improve as cricketer, he is a cricket Hall of Famer of the highest order. Anil is a fantastic bowler who proved that you do not have to turn the ball massively, just enough to take the edge. The way he built pressure on the batsmen and his record show why is head and shoulders above the famed spin quartet. In a mere 14 tests he showed what India missed out on in not naming him captain much, much earlier. Viru is my all time favorite cricketer - the guy who makes me reach for my wallet. He has changed the face of cricket and has done so with nonchalance. His is a once in a lifetime talent, much like Tendulkar but on a different axis. I am 47 and I have had the pleasure of watching all the gentlemen on the list except Vijay and Vinoo. I will watch with tear filled eyes when they call it a day. Thanks guys!!!

Posted by Danube on (September 15, 2010, 0:08 GMT)

As noted previous, one of the strongest of all batting lineups but bowling does let the Indians down. ANyway, now all the teams have been picked, lets clone these guys and have a Test World Cup - it would be AWESOME. I say West Indies beats Australia in the final, with maybe Pakistan taking the bronze medal.

Posted by threeheadedmonkey on (September 14, 2010, 23:36 GMT)

Hmmm some of these players look to only be it for popularity reasons not skill reasons.

Posted by dpcricfan on (September 14, 2010, 23:27 GMT)

I question the choice of captain...but as I said earlier I agree with that the list is the best I have seen (well balanced).

I guess I would have picked from Kapil Dev, Dhoni or Hazare. Kumble wouldn't even make it to my short list (his track record as a captain is so limited, I would have picked Gavaskar before I picked Kumble). I wish there was some explanation provided for that choice.

Posted by dpcricfan on (September 14, 2010, 23:20 GMT)

I think this is a very good list. Before I read the article I came up with a list of my own and apart from Vijay Hazare (I havent had the pleasure of seeing him bat) I had the same list in mind. I was struggling between Vishwanath, Vengsarkar and Ganguly. I think Vijay Hazare is a better choice. Also, I had a tough time picking between Chandrashekar and Prasanna but based on the description Prasanna is probably the right choice.

For those of you who think India's best will be clobbered for lack of fast bowling I beg to differ. Even at their pick WI didnt thrash Kapildev. Also, just Gavaskar gave WI the run for their money (imagine Tendulkar, Sehwag and Dravid along with Gavaskar). I would give a finger to watch that team play together.....

Posted by BillyCC on (September 14, 2010, 23:14 GMT)

People really need to get some perspective in this discussion. To say that this team will get flogged against other countries shows how little they know about world cricket, cricket conditions and cricket history. Firstly, if this team is going to get flogged in pace-friendly conditions because of the quality of their pace bowling, then the West Indies will get flogged in spin-friendly conditions. It's very easy to design a pitch in India to favour spin bowling. Then it's a case of maths, three world-class spinners vs one spinner in most sides. India should come up on top every time. So a series played between the two with both home and away matches will see a very closely fought series. Certainly no flogging by 5-nil or 6-nil margins.

Posted by RayShaumik on (September 14, 2010, 23:09 GMT)

I believe that this was the best possible team .. I have no complains at all!!!

I still see some people mentioning the inclusion of Ganguly in the middle order (IN PLACE OF WHOM??!!!!)... Immesely LAUGHABLE to say the least.. Some one with a paltry Test Average of 40, ONLY 16 centuries after playing 113 tests (Even Damien Martyn from Australia had 13 centuries from 67 tests and an average of 47 !! and he was considered a solid batsman at best - just shows how mediocre Ganguly was as a test batsman) and 21 tests wins as captain off 48 tests, 9 victories of which are against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe!!! Do the people of India really understand CRICKET!!!!!????

Posted by bishwa305 on (September 14, 2010, 22:53 GMT)

I picked a similar team that was chosen today. The only difference was I had BS Bedi for Mankad. You can view my dream team that was posted on Youtube in June 2010. The link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh5h837w02g.

Posted by gtman on (September 14, 2010, 22:41 GMT)

WHAT A GREAT SET OF PLAYERS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DHONI. I DON'T THINK HE DESERVES TO BE ALONG SIDE THOSE EXCEPTIONAL CRICKETERS.

Posted by AS123098 on (September 14, 2010, 22:25 GMT)

Apart from some obvious selections, the selectors have made a complete mess of the most important part of a team:

Captaincy: Indian cricket hasn't seen a stronger mind than Saurav Ganguly. Indians were a talent bunch but meek and docile before Ganguly came along and with his leadership fought the Australians tooth and nail. There is no better man in all of Indian cricket at any time to go to battle with. Ganguly doesn't have the talent and the statistics of all the batsmen selected in this team but he has more heart and more courage and more fight than all the rest put together. There can be no one other than Ganguly to lead this Indian team. He was the one man who restored pride in Indian cricket. It was only under him that Indians became a team made of steel rather than a team of talented individuals which melted under pressure. Someone has to make way for Ganguly. Since I've never seen Hazare bat he would be the one guy who would make way for Ganguly.

Posted by mrgupta on (September 14, 2010, 22:02 GMT)

@Beertjie: I know what you are talking abt and i will have to say i Agree, thats obviously true that this XI will loose against Aus or WI all time XI (maybe to Eng and Pak XI as well). But what i wanted to say or actually felt bad was that players like Sunny and Dravid deserve more respect than given in that comment by Navillus. I agree Lillee, Warnie, Macgrath or Miller wud be nightmare to face but you still cannot say that Dravid and Sunny in their prime will fail everytime to these greats. Sachin, Sunny and Dravid have score against all top bowlers and in all tough conditions winning matches for India. Everyone knows that we are no.1 in test because of our batting. If a team's batting alone can make such a diff then there has to be something special abt it. In an Era when WI dominated, Sunny was the best against them, in 1990s when there were some of the all time Great Bowlers around Sachin topped the averages for the whole decade and who has won more matches for us than 'The Wall'?

Posted by Alexk400 on (September 14, 2010, 21:06 GMT)

Dhoni is crap awful Test cricketer in wicket keeping and batting but he is best Indian Captain ever!. No one even come close!.

Posted by Bamarolls on (September 14, 2010, 21:04 GMT)

@TMS8137, I like your commentary man. Even today, you go to any Carribean Island and they talk about Gavaskar - only man to bring tears to their eyes - he would just bat and bat and bat. I also think that Indian bowlers selected are quiet assasins. Each one of them is capable of taking 8 - 10 wicket in an innings under all conditions in the world. I would say though, Zaheer should at least be 12th man, and Polly Umrigar the 13th.

Posted by Vivek_Singh on (September 14, 2010, 20:51 GMT)

Fine team but very visibly weak in the critical department of fast bowling. Will honestly get beaten by every other national All-time XI (or at least won't be able to beat any). To give an example of say a contest against the West Indian All time XI, Sehwag, Dravid, Gavaskar and Sachin are fantastic batsmen but would really be tested by Marshall, Ambrose and Holding. The converse would hardy be true - Richards, Headley, Greenidge and Lara would simply trounce Srinath and Kapil.

Posted by Navillus on (September 14, 2010, 20:37 GMT)

Lahore ... Wasim and Imran pose for a soda bottle opening company before walking out to open the bowling attack ... Gavaskar is given lbw as the ball strikes the pads when he is strolling towards the square leg between deliveries. Khizar Hayat points upwards ... A floating piece of loose leather enters Dravid's nostrils as he faces Imran and the resulting sneeze dislodges his bails and sends him on his way ... Khizar Hayat picks up 5 wickets and Shakoor Rana the other 5.

Posted by realredbaron on (September 14, 2010, 20:32 GMT)

looks like one of the weakest all time XIs. There were some good options to choose from unlike Pakistan all time XI. But the end product looks weaker than lets say Pakistan's all time XI. Sourav Ganguly deserved a place in in middle order.

Posted by Bamarolls on (September 14, 2010, 20:29 GMT)

Now, for those who think this team is weak, consider this: all the specialist batsmen made their runs against the other teams - those allegedly consisting of good bowlers and fielders. These bowlers, all of them, have taken 8 to 10 wicket in an innings. They can cut through the WORLD ATXI like hot knife thru butter. All the desi bhai and behans: have some respect for your fellow countrymen bowlers too. Kapil was the leading wicket taker of his time and in test matches, he did not claim a single wicket of an Indian batsman.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 20:01 GMT)

well the team looks in general ok but the fast bowling looks weak with kapil and srinath,however there is no better alternative choices.I think KAPIL'S choice is as an alrounder in that case a batsman can be reduced and another fast bowler should be added.I will prefer dropping of Hazare and taking in Amarsingh or Nissar

Again between Sewag and Merchant I will prefer Merchant as an opening batsman and as a captain.I like Kumble's captainship in the field but he is too soft in present day's aggressive world

I feel fielding has not been given due importance in the team selection some stalwarts may have to be replaced due to their fielding

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 19:55 GMT)

well the team looks in general ok but the fast bowling looks weak with kapil and srinath,however there is no better alternative choices.I think KAPIL'S choice is as an alrounder in that case a batsman can be reduced and another fast bowler should be added.I will prefer dropping of Hazare and taking in Amarsingh or Nissar

Again between Sewag and Merchant I will prefer Merchant as an opening batsman and as a captain.I like Kumble's captainship in the field but he is too soft in present day's aggressive world

Posted by magic_torch_jamie on (September 14, 2010, 19:47 GMT)

Perhaps the best selected XI so far. I think Hotu makes some nice points. Certainly he is right in the ones who just might have made it. Kumble will always be one of the most underrated bowlers, who somehow got better the longer in an innings he bowled. Prasanna was the only selection that surprised me. Gupte was wonderful and so was Chandra and I'd have put them ahead. Merchant was dazzling and Viswanath deserves a place, but displacing anyone there? I do find this side light on bowling. India have produced some very good bowlers, but possibly none to rival the top 2 of the other great Test nations. But they would certainly not stint in guts nor work ethic.

Posted by Stark62 on (September 14, 2010, 19:43 GMT)

Okay!

Let's say Ind vs WI, Aus, Pak, Eng and SA. The reality is that Ind is not gonna take 20 wkts in a test match against those teams, no matter how much Ind make on the board because Kumble and Dev were fine bowlers but when you compare them to the likes of Wasim, Marshall, Hadlee, Garner, Lille, Donald, Murli, Warne etc. they look a bit light on records and ability to something out the ordinary. The batting is obviously mighty fine but I don't think the bowling attack could even dislodge SL and Nz all time 11. On a green track Ind will pretty much be handicapped whilst, the other top 5 teams will have bowlers who can change a game in an instant!

All time eleven rankings: 1- WI, 2- Aus, 3- Pak, 4- Eng, 5- SA, 6- Ind.

Posted by HasanMobeen on (September 14, 2010, 19:28 GMT)

With reference to remarks in response to my remarks, I wud like to clarify that my glasses are not green tinted and I respect Indian team.. All I said is that its the best batting lineup as compared to other all time XI but worst bowling attack... And if people here r counting someone with an average of 32 with ball as 5th bowler than I m wrong.. Mankad is the 5th bowler.. but a weaker one... According to me, only Kumble and Kapil are 2 wicket taking bowlers in this team... I have no arguments regarding batting line up which is undoubtedly the best in the world..Take my comments as a neutral cricket fan please.. I m not anti Indian...

Posted by tough_cool on (September 14, 2010, 19:15 GMT)

Dravid was an unanimous choice in World ATX1 but not in India ATX1, what a farce !!!

Posted by Uzi-Khan on (September 14, 2010, 19:04 GMT)

Dont really care about India team but happy to Srinath in there. India's best bowler and seriously underrated.

Current bowling squad is disgraceful.

Posted by Navillus on (September 14, 2010, 18:58 GMT)

@many who commented on my commentary ... my intention is not to pull down these excellent players, but to show how ineffective this team will be on pacy wickets ... the batting is excellent, no doubt, and can hold out for draw on occasions, but Kapil Srinath and Hazare cannot bowl out Bradman Chappel Border or Greenidge Hunte Richards Headley Sobers Lara ... I am myself a big big fan of Dravid ... I understand he is the biggest matchwinning batsman produced by India ... but his rate of scoring on pacy tracks have been slow, people have built innings around him ... Sunny, against genuine pacers and on a pacy wicket, no he did not make too many runs comfortably ... The pakistan game is being removed, so I can't entertain you with that ...

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 18:51 GMT)

this may be the best combination. vijay hajare is the best batsman in 1950s.and average of 47 indicate this. similarly mankad is best before kapil as a allrounder spot. so it gives variety in the team as batting and bowling are concerned. he can also open for india and can bowl 50 overs in an inning with good economy rate. so he is an anonymous choice. i am pleased to see the team combination. threeworld class spinners. 4 rocking batsman 1 great batsman wktkeeper 2 world class allrounders 1medium pacer(hazare) and two fasters. all can come in a single team. a team which has great bowling side. this team can bowl 200 overs without tiredness. and the captain of this team is anil kumble with dhoni is deputy. in test kumble is the right choice. see perth test is the best example

Posted by Beertjie on (September 14, 2010, 18:50 GMT)

@mrgupta

What you fail to appreciate is the difference in the balance between, say India and Australia. Whereas the great Indian batsmen will certainly match the great Australians, there would be no comparison between the sets of bowlers, as @Navillus so cleverly sketched. Even on Indian pitches Warne & O'Reilly would be more than a match for Kumble, Pras and Mankad. But if you put Lillee, McGrath & Miller against the Indian duo, you will get the mismatch of all time! So Australia will beat India, every time! (btw, I'm a Desi).

Posted by ritwik89 on (September 14, 2010, 18:48 GMT)

where is our very own dada my dear friends...!!!!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 18:41 GMT)

I think DADA must be in team ... For those who are replying like dada is being selfish .. I just want to add .. he is the only person responsible for having faith in players who are representing India today .. From my opinion the person who is most selfish is SACHIN TENDULKAR .. because he newer took responsibility for being caption of India because of his personal figures .. the senior players like DADA and dravid are out of team just because of their performance during captaincy .. No doubt sachin is a good batsmen ... but not team player ... Also srinath ... this is most funny .. I think Zaheer should be in team ..

Posted by deepaksam on (September 14, 2010, 18:17 GMT)

The fact that all the 5 bowlers average 29/30 per wkt shows the weakness of the Indian Team.

Posted by anilkp on (September 14, 2010, 18:00 GMT)

Oh no...Not Dhoni, at least not yet. He is a good thinker of the game, a dependable batsman and a very good stumper; but is not yet an "all-time great". He will have to wait a decade. And, Suresh, could not you find any compliment for Kumble, Srinath, Prasanna from any famous cricketers? Since when have journalists--who are shy of playing a ball or a bat--become efficient readers of "all-time great" cricketers? Even I would not value Hayden's compliment on Sehwag much. Compliments on such instances in such contexts and on such pages should be published from the great achievers in the game.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 17:52 GMT)

@NAVILLUS, this is absolutely funny... u said everything what i had to say... the points that u made agnst ENG, AUS, SA & WI are excellent which shows that this team is gonna struggle outside india(bowling point of view)... the test at nagpur agnst SL summarizes the discussion that this team is very good on home conditions that too to an lower ranked side... excellently portrayed by u. the only thing i disagree with u is, u should give an century for sunny, dravid and sachin(they deserve it). u missed the test in wellington agnst NZ and an test in karachi agnst PAK. pls post it as soon as u watch it... ok jokes apart... this team has an batting line up which is really which is red hot but bowling definitely too cool... definitely won't work outside india....

Posted by fanonfire on (September 14, 2010, 17:38 GMT)

zaheer khan should have been inthere instead of srinath

Posted by AnanthNagarajan on (September 14, 2010, 17:33 GMT)

Curiously, Bishan Bedi will make it to Asia XI. Here would be my Asia XI: 1. Gavaskar 2. Sehwag (some people may pick Hanif Mohamed, another very good batsman). 3. Dravid (ahead of Inzi, Aravinda, Mahela and Vijay Hazare) 4. Tendulkar 5. Miandad 6. Sangakkara (wicket-keeper as well) 7. Imran Khan (Captain, no question) 8. Kapil Dev 9. Wasim Akram 10. Bishan Bedi 11. Muralitharan (Just keep Bedi and Murali separate - that's all :-)).

Obviously, Bedi didnt get into India XI because Vinoo Mankad was favored due to his batting ability and India XI needed two all rounders for team balance.

But, Bedi was arguably the greatest left arm slow bowlers in the history of the game and one of the greatest left arm bowlers of all time along with Wasim Akram and Alan Davidson.

Posted by waspsting on (September 14, 2010, 17:29 GMT)

i'm surprised that Mankad was a unanimous choice - although the pace spot for Kapil is a give in - did all the judges think the EXACT same way? hmmm.... also surprised Dravid wasn't a unanimous choice.

Posted by crazyhead on (September 14, 2010, 17:24 GMT)

A competitive side! No real complaints though.. We banked on our strenghts, batting and spin, in that order. I think everyone is aware of India fast bowling options, so not much choice there. Now, sore misses are VVS LAXMAN, Bedi, BS Chandra and vishy in that order for me. But this XI can make up for the miss of these 4 greats! Others are simply 'also rans'. I am actually surprised at the AT XI of Vasu Paranjape. Why is he on the panel?? Look at his XI. He is way too off the selection and did a poor job. Sometimes its nice to have devil's advocates in discussion, but he went overboard and selected his own which if selected for AT XI for India, readers will simply stop reading 'CRICINFO.COM'. Other juddes have been more or less selected faily well.

Best of the selection: 1. Anil Kumble being the captain. Hats off the biggest warrior of India cricket. 2. two all rounds in mankad and Kapil to compensate for lack of bowling variety and to add depth. 3. Srinath getting spot.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 17:22 GMT)

Was quite disappointed in not seeing Syed Kirmani in there. He was a better keeper and MS even though good has a long way to go as far as his keeping is concerned. Also Vishy had to miss out in this , I guess he had to make way for a Vijay Hazare.

Posted by soaf on (September 14, 2010, 17:22 GMT)

this team will get the beating of the lifetime .their bowling attack is looking as one of the worst compare to all international all time xi's.the batsmen are overrated and really can be called as lions of their own den.this pathetic batting line will completely expose when they will face likes of waz, waqar , imaran lille marshall and ambrose.for sehwag "test is cricket is dying because of thIS stupid and bigot batsman who can only score on flat and dead pitches'.GO INDIA GO SEND THIS TEAM ON ANY INT'L TOUR AND WATCH THE MOCKERY OF YOUR so called LEGENDS.

Posted by eZoha on (September 14, 2010, 17:21 GMT)

This team might compete with other all-time XI in batting, but will be hammered in the bowling department. Not a single bowler with an average in early 20's! Pathetic.

Posted by waspsting on (September 14, 2010, 17:19 GMT)

team a tad too biased on the modern generation, IMO. the recent woes of Kevin Pietersen - in the context of his inclusion in the England all time 11 shows the potential folly of this. Merchent, Aamir Singh and Gupte would have been in my ideal team. while we're quoting Gary Sobers on Gavaskar, he also said he thought Gupte a better bowler than Shane Warne. make of that what you will. Still, a pretty solid team, especially in batting. the pace attack is weak by all time standards, but not much to choose from in India. In all but very under-prepared wickets, the all time Pakistan team would start overhwhelming favorites against this eleven.

Posted by naresh.kanagala on (September 14, 2010, 17:12 GMT)

This is pity...Where is the legendary Captain GANGULY? with out him no team no agressive cricket............

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 17:07 GMT)

When we talk about six players being from the Golden Age, we should also mention the player who took the reins of the team when it was down after match fixing scandal and not many gave it a chance. The one who backed the likes of Sehwag, who played Dravid in ODIs while the selectors were against that, who was cunning enough to utilize Kumble and Srinath such that they perform up to their fullest potentials. Its a pity that this article does not even mention that person. If a team has so many players in the all time world XI, some credit should go to the captain too. Why is there no left handed batsman in the team? Coz then you would have to pick SCG. It is a pity that people judge him on the basis of his performance during his decline. He was the second player to score 10K runs in ODIs. Come on guys, show him respect!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 17:07 GMT)

just two quickies in this eleven ??

Posted by Venkatb on (September 14, 2010, 17:05 GMT)

I would have gone for Mohd Nissar over Srinath - among all World XIs, India seems to have the weakest bowling line-up. Also, I saw Prasanna getting slaughtered in 2 series in the 70s, including hisast against Pakistan of 78-79 - his flight and guile would not have survived in modern cricket - even Sehwag's off-spin would serve better - sad that Merchant and Umrigar do not make the cut.

Posted by Rake1 on (September 14, 2010, 17:01 GMT)

My ranking of the All-Time Test XIs selected would be : 1. Australia 2. South Africa 3. England 4. West Indies 5. Pakistan 6. India 7. New Zealand 8. Sri Lanka. My All-Time World XI would be: Jack Hobbs, Sunil Gavaskar, Don Bradman, Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, Gary Sobers, Adam Gilchrist, Wasim Akram, Shane Warne, Dennis Lilee & Glen McGrath.

Posted by FAB_ALI on (September 14, 2010, 16:40 GMT)

To all those who are questioning Srinath's inclusion with sheer surprises - Plz give me name of any two fast bowlers who u can replace him with ( having played the same number of matches and taken as many wickets). Those comparing him with club cricketers have got to find some other place for cracking rusty jokes!

Posted by ravithecricbuff on (September 14, 2010, 16:39 GMT)

Well, looks fair to me..you can not have everyone in 11..can u?It in no way means the likes of VVS are not that good..they are all time greats...they don't need their names included here to justify this...They are and will remain the best...I have no complaints unlike so many cribbing babies out here..lol

Posted by GrtIndia_Ann on (September 14, 2010, 16:36 GMT)

@Kaze:With all due respect,i pity ur poor cricket knowledge when u say that sachin and sehwag fail on quick and bouncy tracks....hope u have not by mistake entered a cricket web site...if not check those two batsmens over seas records...sachin's century on perth track at 19 age...still considered by many as one of the best ever played on Aussie soil...for ur info...Perth is considered as fastest and bonciest pitch in the world...also his 169 and 155 in SA...and many more in England...u can verify the same forSehwag...For ur extra kind info...Sachin averages above 50 out side subcontinent in tests...some thing Dravid,Md Yousuf,Jyawardane etc...cant achieve...

Posted by Farce-Follower on (September 14, 2010, 16:35 GMT)

All belong, except MSD - a pure media invention. I thought this was a Test XI. MSD and CSK, thats a good combination...not for Tests where he regularly misses stumpings and catches.

Posted by karthikfromchennai on (September 14, 2010, 16:33 GMT)

@TMS8137 ...that was a hilarious one...Sehwag must be thankful that he never got a chance to face Holding and Ambrose....think of Walsh and Marshall as well...WI attack was great and they would have deifinitely got the better of Sehwag. To face that kind of bowling we need someone like Dravid/Gavaskar...not Sehwag.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 16:31 GMT)

Not a great team. Forget the recent hype, but Dhoni has no business being there. Kirmani is the best keeper. Sehwag has got the runs, but he is not the purist's delight. I will stay with Vijay Merchant, whose flowing drives along the carpet, on both sides of the wicket, must have delighted many a cricket lover. It was a toss up between Rahul Dravid and Polly Umrigar. I gave it to Umrigar, for being a great batsman, who bowled a bit. He bowled in tandem with Jasu Patel at Kanpur, against the Aussies and won us a game. Hazare was a surprise. I would stick to Vishwanath. Those wristy drives, were pure class. Vintage stuff. I have not seen Nissar, but I have read extensively about him. He is the best India has produced, and he just has to be there, although I am an admirer of Srinath too. Kumble has been a great bowler, throughout his career - but Subhash Gupte was in a class of his own. I endorse the rest of the selection. Cheers.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 16:27 GMT)

LAXMAN IS MISSING............... He is architect of every significant victory that is Golden age cherishes...

Posted by rajeshkamath82 on (September 14, 2010, 16:26 GMT)

7 cricketers - Gavaskar, Sachin , Dravid , Kumble , Srinath , Prasanna and Hazare are from Maharashtra and Karnataka ...interesting..and Vinoo mankad is from nearby adjacent Gujarat and played for ( then )Bombay..talk of cricketing nurseries ...:-)

Posted by rson on (September 14, 2010, 16:26 GMT)

Batting lineup looks goood though not the world-beaters some think.However the bowling is not likely to drive fear into the hearts of opposing All-Time lineups and really ranks ahead of only Sri Lanka and possibly New Zealand. Think AmarSingh and Chandrasekhar should have been in the lineup at the expense of Srinath and Prasanna.

Posted by MillionairePauper on (September 14, 2010, 16:25 GMT)

This selection process does not have any proper criteria and its just the opinion of a few hypocrites and one should just ignore this selection...

Posted by Ellis on (September 14, 2010, 16:24 GMT)

Will Cricinfo consider bringing together a three hour video of this all-time eleven? It would be a collector's item for always. That principle could be extended to the all-time teams from all other countries. Are we also going to see an all-time World eleven?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 16:22 GMT)

I love the harsha bhogle comment on Anil Kumble which says that he was the greatest cricketer he could have been... fine fine XI...although the pace attack looks really thin when compared to some of the other all time XIs.... really find it baffling not to see gundappa vishwanath in there.... He for me along with gavaskar, dravid and tendulkar, one of the best batsman India has ever produced...

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 16:20 GMT)

I do not understand the significance behind the selection of MS Dhoni in this squad. I think he has miles to go before featuring even in the team of the decade let alone a team for the entire history.

He is an extremely talented cricketer but runs far from technique. I think he has earned too much of fame well before he should have and that is often deceiving the mass into a conjecture that he is a master tactitian and a very intelligent player - either of which he is not.

I strongly deny his place in this team and it disgraces almost all the others who have been picked alongside. Sourav Ganguly and VVS Laxman have done far better for the team over the years and if picking a wicketkeeper is the need of the hour, even then the selector could have found out much more deserving options had s/he chosen to look into more depth.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 16:13 GMT)

how could they not include Sourav Ganguly

Posted by ChinmayD on (September 14, 2010, 16:08 GMT)

This team is unbeatable anywhere. Once Sehwag is dismissed (after his customary blitz up the order) we will have Dravid and Gavaskar at the crease... just try dislodging one of them. Impossible in any conditions if both of them get set, and even if it does happen, you have Tendulkar at crease, and he can bat on any surface too...

After Tendulkar, the batting is a bit suspect against fast bowling on certain pitches, but the top 8 should still be able to raise 400 runs against any bowling attack and after that, with Dravid and Gavaskar to stonewall in second innings there can be only one result.

On Indian pitches, against this spin attack, very few batting orders stand a chance, and none of the other bowling attacks have enough variety in spin department.

Posted by Nampally on (September 14, 2010, 16:03 GMT)

Selection of Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid & Tendulkar is automatic and so is that of Kapil. The remaining 6 positions could have been chosen more carefully to be truly representative of "All Time" team. None of the jurors were born before 1950. Hence the jury selection itself was flawed. Next the readers were not given a chance to vote for the wicket keepers of their choice because 2 of the outstanding WK's - Kundaram & Engineer were excluded from the list of given by the jurors. Both these past greats are better than Dhoni both in batting & WK. Hence Dhoni's selection in the All Time 11 is flaed. Selection by pure averages is also a wrong basis of selection.Subash Gupte was the greatest leg spinner the world has ever seen. He should be in the all time World 11 ahead of Warne. If he had good fielding to back him up, he would have taken at least another 50 to 100 wkts. Umrigar, Nissar & Amar singh also missed out because the young jury never heard of them.Great injustice to old" Greats".

Posted by crikkfan on (September 14, 2010, 16:02 GMT)

navillus keep going - its fun to imagine isnt it?! I am sure you can come up with a fictional game in which india is coming out better - how about against Pak XI , NZ XI or SL XI ?

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 15:41 GMT)

hey guys have a look at our great players

Posted by AncientAstronaut on (September 14, 2010, 15:39 GMT)

I'm pretty happy with this side. No complaints at all. Well done, jury! The only weak link, as far as I see, is Srinath. But then we never had great fast bowlers, except Kapil Dev.

Posted by Tendulkars_Tennis_Elbow on (September 14, 2010, 15:37 GMT)

Dhoni ahead of Kirmani? Dravid ahead of serial match-winner Gundappa? No Bedi? this XI is going to get walloped by the XIs of the rest of the world.

Posted by mrgupta on (September 14, 2010, 15:32 GMT)

@Navillus: Good Commentary but sorry you just don't know or realize how good Sunny and Dravid are, many times better than you have given them credit for. In conditions where Aus or WI will score in excess of 600, then so will the Indians with this batting lineup. You forgot that in their Prime Sunny and Dravid were the most difficult ones to get through even with Lillee or Macgrath. On the other hand with all due respect to V.Mankad i wud say his batting avg is lower than his bowling avg and that does not fit under allrounder definition. Kapil shud be at No.6 with Zaheer or Nissar added to the bowling unit. For the bowling to be good in all conditions we need 3 fast and 2 Spinners with Viru and Sachin the part-timers. Batting, as expected, looks formidable with bowlers finding it tough to go through Sunny while Viru destroys the attacks at the other end. If the Bowlers do manage to go through anyone of them then 'The Wall' will be hard to break and then ofcourse, we have 'The Master'.

Posted by ntity on (September 14, 2010, 15:23 GMT)

My All Time X1: S Gavaskar V Sehwag VVS Laxman Sachin Tendulkar Rahul Dravid G Vishwanath / D Vengsarkar Syed Kirmani (wk) Kapil Dev (c) A Kumble J Srinath / S Venkatraghavan E Prasanna / H Singh 12th man: M Amaranth / V Hazare

ODI Team: V Sehwag S Tendulkar Gautham Gambhir R Dravid S Raina /Yuvraj Singh MS Dhoni Y Pathan / Irfan Pathan Harbhajan Singh Z Khan Praveen Kumar A Nehra 12th man: V Kohli / SS Tiwary

T20 Team: V Sehwag Gautham Gambhir S Raina Robin Uthappa / S Badrinath Yuvraj Singh MS Dhoni Y Pathan / SS Tiwary Harbhajan Singh R Ashwin Praveen Kumar A Nehra 12th man: Irfan Pathan/ S Jakati

Tests: V Sehwag Gautham Gambhir VVS Laxman S Tendulkar R Dravid S Raina / R Sharma MS Dhoni Harbhajan Singh Z Khan A Nehra / Praveen Kumar P Ohja / A Mishra 12th man: Yuvraj Singh

Posted by jpa170478 on (September 14, 2010, 15:21 GMT)

Would love to see a Fantasy test tournament involving all the great elevens. For me clearly the final would be between Australia and West Indies, with the Windies just winning

Posted by keyuru2 on (September 14, 2010, 15:19 GMT)

Re: inswing (What would a combined Ind-Pak 11 look like?) - I'd go for: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Yousouf, Imran, Kapil, Dhoni, Akram, Waquar, Kumble

Posted by sweetspot on (September 14, 2010, 15:09 GMT)

If India is the current #1 in the world, and yet has such a weak win/loss ratio, it speaks volumes of how bad the Indian teams of the past were.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 15:05 GMT)

Opening Pair is exceptional!! One's isa plkayer whose concentration to break meant hitting ones head on the rock!! and other is too unpredictable to let opposition know of his motives. 3 is simply The WALL and 4 is the MASTER. 5 & 6 are marvellous and 7 is the BEST All-Rounder of India and one of the best inthe world. 8 is a great leader who can walk in any team of the world even as a wicket-keeper or as a batsman. 9 and 11 are two different revolutionaries of SPIN bowling in India. Captain should be MS Dhoni!!

Posted by keyuru2 on (September 14, 2010, 14:57 GMT)

Great team, but I can't help thinking its structurely flawed... 1 - Why 2 all-rounder spots? Kapil or Dhoni could have easily slotted in at 6 and 7, or a place could have been created for VVS Laxman. 2 - I unfortunately never got to see the legendary Prasanna, and I know stats don't tell the full story... but regardless of a 30 avg, a strike rate of 75 just doesn't compliment the current attack

Posted by inswing on (September 14, 2010, 14:53 GMT)

What would a combined Ind-Pak 11 look like? Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Miandad, Imran, Kapil, Bari, Akram, Waquar, Kumble.

Posted by cricfanraj on (September 14, 2010, 14:52 GMT)

I think Hazare inclusion is just to show that Jury wants to get away from critism that all new generation players are choosen. I think VVS will be a damn good selection to have against any attack. If not Vishy shoudl have been there.

Posted by Kaze on (September 14, 2010, 14:51 GMT)

Wow this is a weak side. How do they expect to bowl anyone out with that rubbish bowling? The batting isn't too good either, against a good disciplined pace attack on a fast uncovered, wicket only Gavaskar would stand up in this lineup. Dravid would probably manage to stick around but the likes of Sehwag and Tendulkar would get knocked over cheaply. A middler order of an Alltime XI with players averaging 47 and 31, unbelievable !

Posted by inswing on (September 14, 2010, 14:47 GMT)

It's a fine 11. I would prefer Nissar or Amar Singh in place of Srinath, but Srinath is not a bad choice given the options. For the second spinner, it is a tossup between Pras and Bedi, and Pras is as good a choice as any. Glad Hazare made it.

Posted by denza on (September 14, 2010, 14:43 GMT)

This is indeed a great XI that has been chosen but keeping in mind the niche that vvs laxman has created he should be have been in the middle order. Also another thing missing is that the entire line-up consists of right handed batsmen and no southpaws. So there is lesser balance there and left handed batsmen are always elegant. A fighter to the core Sourav Ganguly should have got a place.

Posted by New_Wind on (September 14, 2010, 14:42 GMT)

@ Navillus, two thumbs up for taking this fun to next level. God bless you!

Waiting with shiver to read Pakistan match commentary. Only thing I object so far is Gavaskar not scoring his trademark century in West Indies.

Posted by TMS8137 on (September 14, 2010, 14:36 GMT)

3rd afternoon at Sabina Park. India 400 behind WI come out to bat. Gavaskar plays out a maiden from Holding and Sehwag faces the first ball from Ambrose as a delivery to sehwags throat is met with an upper cut from sehwag which sends the ball over the 3rd man for 6. The next three balls are met with same abandon and soon ambrose is sending down no-ball after no-ball as sehwag plunders 33 of the second. This sets the tone for the last session as by close of play India reach 231 for no loss with sehwag on 179*. On the 4th morning sehwag is out in the third over as dravid and gavaskar deadbat their way to lunch at 288 for 1. After lunch they flay the flagging attack under the Caribbean sun as both batsmen and tendulkar reach centuries before departing trying to up the ante at 532. India declare on the 5th morning 621. West indies reach 38 for no loss before prasannabeats hunte in flight kumble runs through the batting line up as headley is out lbw and lara caught behind with them 171 ao.

Posted by BondShaneBond on (September 14, 2010, 14:27 GMT)

for me its the same old story, some people just dont want to accept the facts. this team still wont win anything abroad... why ? Given the calibre of jury its rather disappointing to see names of some great leaders missing...instead someone who has been around not from so long been included. This is not a All time Great list by any account.

Posted by capetonian on (September 14, 2010, 14:08 GMT)

The Jury Team are a bunch of jokers;Farokh Engineer's absence from thejury list is apalling. Farokh played a key role in the victories over England in India and England .

Posted by rakesh_85 on (September 14, 2010, 13:51 GMT)

Just don't agree with nagetive minded people like Mr. Navillus. But i really feel there should have been 3rd seemer backing Kapil and Srinath, Zaheer may be. what is a need of Vinoo Mankad as an allrounder when u got people like Kapil and Dhoni?? The comments written on Srinath here all harsh when he hardly got any succesfull fast bowler bowling alongside him in his playing days. A bowlers average and strike rate can only go up if he gets support from other end like Mcgrath(Gillispie/Lee), Wasim (Waqar), Ambrose (Walsh/Bishop), Holding (marshall/ Garner), Donald (Pollock).

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:50 GMT)

navillus... get well soon

Posted by Virendra_Y on (September 14, 2010, 13:49 GMT)

@Navillus.... what the hell are you doing on all time India XI if u don't like Indian team. What do you want to prove by posting about such "fictional" matches? Does your father know how to hold a Cricket Bat or a Ball? Get the hell out of this page if you don't like Indian team.

Posted by cricfanraj on (September 14, 2010, 13:47 GMT)

@Navillus .. Tooo good. Awasome :-) Keepgoing

Posted by hattrick_thug on (September 14, 2010, 13:46 GMT)

"That six of the XI made their debuts ... , is a tribute to the Mumbai man's impact." - This is a specious argument. Apart from Sehwag, who was obviously inspired by him, the others are essentially contemporaries that were already playing near-first-class cricket when Tendulkar made his mark. The true impact on the cricket playing community remains to be seen - from what I've seen so far, in general, they seek that level of adulation, but appear to have neither the child-like hunger to play, nor the humility that goes into a constantly evolving performer, qualities that personify our dear little Tendlya.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:36 GMT)

gd selection,,,,,but this team can't win any major cup with this bowlers!!! we need some gd fast bowlers....

Posted by hattrick_thug on (September 14, 2010, 13:34 GMT)

Nissar over Srinath, though for us (possibly including the selectors), information on Nissar is anecdotal, but he appears to have induced genuine fear among the top batsmen in his era. Vishy has inspired famous wins with grit, grace and dignity. So I'd pick him over Hazare,. For those that doubt Pras's away-credentials, he took 25 wickets in a 4-Test series in Australia, and loads of wkts in NZ, including an 8-for. He had one single poor series in Pak at the end of his career, otherwise his numbers are top-flight. Including Zaheer would be like selecting a 10.5-man team - he's out injured half the time. Sehwag, Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendu, Vishy, Mankad, Dhoni, Kapil, Kumble, Pras, Nissar.

Posted by Ramesh-IT on (September 14, 2010, 13:33 GMT)

It's a bad joke that VVS is missing from this list.

Posted by nikita_karthick on (September 14, 2010, 13:32 GMT)

dear o dear!!!! Srinath over Zaheer! Dhoni as a Wk and bat @ 8!!

current selecion panel is only better than your jury!

u guys regularly win matches in overseas only by zaheer!!! lot of match winning performaces!! Left arm pace!!!

Apart from one close encounter in SA, We never winning matches in Aus, NZ, SA, WI and Eng when srinath was a strike bowler!!

Again Dhoni!! He can't win matches with bat!!! As a captain without Dravid, Sehwag and Sachin he is a zero!!!!!! no words about keeping!!!

Posted by vishwa_a on (September 14, 2010, 13:26 GMT)

@Farhan15904: Mohammad Azharuddin was a match fixer, and there is not place for players without integrity regardless how competent they are (maybe, he would still be playing if he was from Pakistan).

Posted by vishwa_a on (September 14, 2010, 13:25 GMT)

@Faisal.Jaan: The way Pakistan plays (and fixes matches), I am sure, they will soon become a team with the most number of defeats in all forms of Cricket. Don't live in the past.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:24 GMT)

Prasanna would not be my choice. I'll replace him with Zaheer as 3rd seemer. Anyway Gupte's record is better than Pras.

Posted by Babu2288 on (September 14, 2010, 13:24 GMT)

Accept everything except MSD here. It's a stupid joke that he is here. I can't remember any instance when (a) he went into bat when the going is tough, let alone score (when the going is good, he just runs in) and (b) he is acclaimed for his keeping abilities (even Kamran Akmal is sometimes praised for his keeping). As a captain, he got rid of senior players from ODI team, and has never shown any interest in picking the best team for the present or in building a team for the future. It's his luck that he is in the Indian team, luckier that he is the captain, and even more ridiculously lucky that he is in all time India's greats. All others in the greats' list influenced how the game is played in India and showed their utmost commitment to the game. Dhoni never has and never will. I am ashamed to be an Indian when my fellow Indians select him into the greats list. I am sorry for my outburst but I am truly disgusted.

Posted by Knightriders_suck on (September 14, 2010, 13:24 GMT)

For all the people crying about 3 spinners. How are other ATXIs going to play in India/SL with one spinner? Stop crying that there are only two seamers. Any ATXI is selected to pay in home conditions.

Anyways with the number of matches we play against SL nowadays about 70% of India matches are in spin friendly conditions.

Why are India only blamed for having a poor away record? No away team comes to India and wins either. (don't tell me Aus 2005, Eng did not even manage that) So first let these so called "great" teams come to subcontinent and defeat India in India and then we will see which is the best team out there.

Posted by On-a-Crusade on (September 14, 2010, 13:21 GMT)

This is outrageous...Why is Sreesanth not here?

Posted by Navillus on (September 14, 2010, 13:19 GMT)

Kingsmead, Durban ... Barry Richards flays the Kapil and Srinath all over the park. The 9th over on a green top is bowled by Pras. When Dravid catches Smith off Prasanna, it is already 161. Pollock comes in ahead of Kallis and starts showing why he was regarded as one of the world's very best. On the green wicket, soon it is Sachin Tendulkar trying to make the ball talk with his gentle swingers. Richards, who was seen in the bar with Peter Kirsten the previous night, falls when Mankad catches him short of his crease while on his way to bowl. Pollock is out to Srinath before the end of the day, but Nourse and Kallis see off the second new ball and though Kumble is rewarded for his perseverence towards the end of the innings, but with some lusty blows by Proctor SA score 606. Kapil (1), Srinath (3), Kumble(3), Prasanna (2) share the wickets with one run out. Donald and Pollock open the bowling with Proctor and Kallis to step in ... and if there is any crack, there are Faulkner & Tayfiel

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:18 GMT)

Bowlers -------In All-Time XI-------- Player Mat Inns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5w 10w V.Mankad 44 70 5236 162 8/52 13/131 32.32 2.13 90.6 8 2 Kapil Dev 131 227 12867 434 9/83 11/146 29.64 2.78 63.9 23 2 A.Kumble 132 236 18355 619 10/74 14/149 29.65 2.69 65.9 35 8

E.Prasanna 49 86 5742 189 8/76 11/140 30.38 2.40 75.9 10 2 J.Srinath 67 121 7196 236 8/86 13/132 30.49 2.85 64.0 10 1 ======Missed Out========

BS.Bedi 67 118 7637 266 7/98 10/194 28.71 2.14 80.3 14 1

H.Singh 85 156 11289 357 8/84 15/217 31.62 2.83 67.0 24 5 BS.Chandra 58 97 7199 242 8/79 12/104 29.74 2.70 65.9 16 2 S.Gupte 36 61 4403 149 9/102 10/223 29.55 2.34 75.7 12 1 S.Venkat 57 96 5634 156 8/72 12/152 36.11 2.27 95.3 3 1 D.Doshi 33 55 3502 114 6/102 8/103 30.71 2.25 81.7 6 0 Z.Khan 72 131 7983 242 7/87 10/149 32.98 3.32 59.5 9 1 V.Prasad 33 58 3360 96 6/33 10/153 35.00 2.86 73.3 7 1 R.Binny 27 38 1534 47 6/56 8/101 32.63 3.20 61.0 2 0

K.Ghavri 39 69 3656 109 5/33 7/120 33.54 3.11 64.5 4 0

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:13 GMT)

Wicket Keeper Players Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 Catches Stumping -------In All-Time XI-------- M.S.Dhoni 46 70 9 2556 148 41.90 4 18 119 20 ======Missed Out========

F.Engineer 46 87 3 2611 121 31.08 2 16 66 16 S.Kirmani 88 124 22 2759 102 27.04 2 12 160 38 Kiran More 49 64 14 1285 73 25.70 0 7 110 20 N.Mongia 44 68 8 1442 152 24.03 1 6 99 8

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 13:10 GMT)

Batsman Player Match Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 -------In All-Time XI-------- V.Sehwag 79 135 5 7039 319 54.14 21 22 S.Gavaskar 125 214 16 10122 236* 51.12 34 45 V.Hazare 30 52 6 2192 164* 47.65 7 9 R.Dravid 142 245 28 11490 270 52.94 29 58 S.Tendulkar 169 276 29 13837 248* 56.02 48 56 V.Mankad 44 72 5 2109 231 31.47 5 6 Kapil Dev 131 184 15 5248 163 31.05 8 27 ======Missed Out======== G.Viswanath 91 155 10 6080 222 41.93 14 35 M.Azharuddin 99 147 9 6215 199 45.03 22 21 VVS.Laxman 113 186 29 7415 281 47.22 16 45 M.Amarnath 69 113 10 4378 138 42.50 11 24 D.Vengsarkar 116 185 22 6868 166 42.13 17 35 NS.Sidhu 51 78 2 3202 201 42.13 9 15 V.Merchant 10 18 0 859 154 47.72 3 3

Posted by kreeketer on (September 14, 2010, 13:08 GMT)

Shocked that Ganguly and Zaheer have been left out....Two of them real class ; the former Redefined Cricket Captaincy for India.... Otherwise the team looks great !

Posted by nikhildevdesai on (September 14, 2010, 13:05 GMT)

@FARHAN15904, come one AZHAR, he's a cheat and a cheat doesn't deserve a place in INDIA ALL TIME XI, and who would he replace, sachin, dravid, sehwag, HAHAHAH, what a joke, Azhar wouldn't even be in XI even if he wasn't involved in scandal. I can't believe you even brought his name up in this list.

Posted by Navillus on (September 14, 2010, 12:59 GMT)

Nagpur - Ranatunga sneezed during the toss and a puff of dust flew off the pitch before the match referee could say bless you. Sehwag takes 17 off De Mel's second over and 21 off Rumesh. Vaas bowls a steady line at Gavaskar, but by lunch Viru 92(82) and Sunny 34(92) have taken India to 136. Murali cannot really produce his magic on the first day, and even as Gavaskar departs for 60, caught at slip off DS DeSilva, Dravid carries on from where he left. At the end of the day India is 389 for 1, Sehwag 253(240). However, Murali triggers a mini collapse on day 2 ... but Dhoni(67) and Hazare(79) take the total to 577. By the time SL bat, Kumble is raring to go. Jayasuria, after a six over fine third man, plays on to Srinath. Sanga plays well for his century, but Prasanna (3/62), Mankad (2/44) and Kumble (4/70) ends their resistance at 289. In the second essay, however, Kumble is determined to make up for his failure to take 5. He finishes things with 7/57, Prasanna takes 2 and Mankad 1.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:56 GMT)

It is a known fact India hasn't produced great fast bowlers, so you see Srinath in the XI. It will be pathetic if we compare the bowling department (especially fast bowlers) vis-a-vis Pakistan, Australia, England, South Africa XI. You could see players like Akthar, Brett Lee did not make the cut in the XI. So Srinath selects himself by virtue of the best played for India thus far, though his strike rate is pretty average. This is not to degrade Srinath's achievement, as he hardly got support from the other end.

Posted by Crkt_Fan on (September 14, 2010, 12:52 GMT)

I disagree with the selection of Vinoo Mankad and Prasanna. We need five specialist batsmen and one allrounder and one WK and three fast bowlers and one spinner. I cannot imagine any Indian XI without GR Vishwanath. He takes my spot at 5, 6 is Hazare (all rounder), 7 is Dhoni, 8 is Kapil, 9 is Zaheer Khan and 10 is Sreenath and 11 is Anil Kumble.

Posted by MFNadeem on (September 14, 2010, 12:48 GMT)

Guys, if you see the overall record of all teams: There are only 4 teams who have won more test matches than they lost. Namely, Australia, England, Pakistan, South Africa in order of win ratio. In ODIs, it is Australia, South Africa, West Indies, Pakistan, India, England in order of win ratio. In T20Is, Top 4 teams are Pakistan, South Africa, Australia and SriLanka. A combined overall summary : Australia, South Africa, Pakistan and WestIndies. All stats taken from statguru of cricinfo. :)

Posted by Rakesh107 on (September 14, 2010, 12:47 GMT)

Is it a 'golden era' or more of a 'not so glittering past'?

Posted by Navillus on (September 14, 2010, 12:47 GMT)

Sabina Park - a fighting century by Tendulkar and a dogged 4 hour vigil by Dravid (52) ensures that India reach 182 for 2 just after tea. However, Ambrose gets Dravid yorked and Marshall induces a snick iff Sachin. Holding runs through Mankad, Kapil, Dhoni, Kumble and Srinath within the next twenty seven minutes. Hazare fights on with Prasanna, but the latter falls in the last over of the day, with the score reading 247. Kapil and Srinath get rid of Greenindge and Hunte with 46 on the board and a fight is on, but then Viv takes 22 off an over of Hazare and Srinath's confidence is shattered when his fastest ball orbits over the stadium. Headley, all the while, progresses towards his century ... Just before the end of the day Kumble turns a leg break to unsettle Viv's off stump, but the score is 303. There is a sprint to the wicket, and Sobers pips both Lara and night watchman Hendricks to be establised as the next batsman. Prasanna and Kapil do pick up a few wkts, but Windies score 644.

Posted by sarvoday on (September 14, 2010, 12:39 GMT)

gr8 team......but full of batsman....why india is not produced good fast bowlers? tats d only weak area else.... gr8 team....

Posted by Navillus on (September 14, 2010, 12:36 GMT)

Australia bat at Perth. Trumper's cavalier drive is taken at gully off Kapil and Morris snicks Srinath to be let off behind the wicket. Hayden, Lawrie, Simpson and Taylor wonder why they are watching from the stands. But, it is that little man at the crease, looking smaller because he is bending double with laughter when he sees Prasanna bowling the 15th over. From 11 for one it is soon 176 for 1 with the Don reaching century before lunch. Morris is finally foxed by Mankad, the only one who seems to have an idea about bowling to left handers. But Chappel walks in, eager to erase unhappy coaching memories ... At lunch on second day, Bradman's fibrositis catches up with him after a personal best of 339. Kapil gets Border, but Chappel completes his double ton and Miller tears into the spinners. At 730 Prasanna getsGreg and Aussies declare. Sunny is gone, lbw to Lillee and Sehwag refuses to accompany him back to the pavillion is spite of entreaties. Day 2 ends at India 41 for 1, battling .

Posted by bhagawansays on (September 14, 2010, 12:34 GMT)

India has always been a team of individual superstars. The suckers at the selection panel forgot to select one key ingredient to make the team work - THE CAPTAIN! Where is Sourav Ganguly???

Posted by sandy_bangalore on (September 14, 2010, 12:32 GMT)

Great batting side, but sorry to say, the bowling dosent inspire confidence at all. In fact, it has to be among the weakest of all the all-time XIs. Srinath was good, but an average of 30 abroad shows hes nowhere in the league of ambrose,wasim or mcgrath. Kapil too comes under the good but not great as far as bowling is concerned(evg 29 abroad). All we are left with is the spinners and will kumble and prassana be as effective away from the turning pitches? So in a nutshell, not a single bowler to strike FEAR in the hearts of the opposition, and will have to rely on our batsmen to bat the other team out of the match. But thats Indian cricket even to this day, loads of batsmen, but bowlers are nowhere to be seen.

Posted by tinkertinker on (September 14, 2010, 12:28 GMT)

Pretty much sums up indian cricket, great batting but pretty average bowling particularly in foreign conditions.

Looking at this all time team it's no surprise india have never won test series in places like australia and south africa.

Posted by Navillus on (September 14, 2010, 12:26 GMT)

A cloudy morning at Lords and England win the toss and bat. Hobbs and Hutton face Kapil and Srinath. By the twelfth over at 38 without loss, the first change is the seam option in the form of Hazare. Before lunch, Kumble is already into the attack, and the one over of Pras was a struggle to grip the ball because of the cold. When, against the run of play a wicket falls in the second session, Hammond walks in to play off the slightly threatening Kapil. Mankad's figures read 4-0-27-0 at tea. It is the morning of second day when Kapil gets the outswinger going with the second new ball to get Hobbs for 186. And in walks Barrington. And so it continues ... Kumble does pick up two wickets after characteristic lion hearted bowling, but England declare an hour from close at 672 for 5. Pietersen, a quirk of selection, is out for3 off an attempted switch hit, but Botham is unbeaten on 60. It is now Trueman and Larwood to bowl followed by Barnes and Botham...with Underwood waiting. Well?

Posted by Farhan15904 on (September 14, 2010, 12:24 GMT)

I don't understand How they can miss Mohd. Azharuddin, One player who hold World record for three century in row in his opening three matches. This record stand unbreakable after so many time. and still he is not in team. Think about it.

Posted by jangli70 on (September 14, 2010, 12:21 GMT)

"Six of the XI made their debuts after November 1989. A sign that this is one of Indian cricket's best periods ever" NO sir, this only indicates that jury not know enough about the pas. The great openers of that time face hostile bowling of England, West Indies, Australi and Pakistan with out the luxries of helmet, chest guards and arm guards, and remmembers that time grounds were bigger then now a days batsmen can run five when ball did not reach to boundry with out overthrow. 6 day test 4th day rest, pitches collpased, not right protection again weather and above all home empires, ( in that espect India have always had an edge, hehhehehe)

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:20 GMT)

Zaheer Khan in the list of all-time best in India? You guys must know nothing of cricket. He is such a over-hyped cricketer in the nation. Remember, India lost the 2003 World Cup because of him, bowling 2 good balls to Gilchrist in the opening over .. and that was it! He felt he was over the moon and went and said something to Gilly, who blasted him since then. People were complaining how much they missed Zaheer on the tour to Sri Lanka .. but India did reasonably well without him. Even in IPL-3, he was a disaster .. Mumbai Indians will do well to give him to Punjab and getting Irfan in his place. And now in SAF, he is getting belted ... 17 runs in the last over, cost the Mumbai Indians the opener!!! Zaheer should be a server in his restaurant in Pune and not play cricket!!!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:13 GMT)

"If I had a son I would have wanted him to play like Sachin." Brian Lara

Gr8 Compliment To Sachin :-)

Posted by dineshp97 on (September 14, 2010, 12:06 GMT)

i think this is good. 2 doubts... maybe zaheer over one of the spinners? u need 3 pacers. maybe bedi instead of prasanna?

Posted by peterhrt on (September 14, 2010, 12:05 GMT)

The batting is strong and would have been stronger with Merchant for Hazare. But this attack will not win many matches outside India. The crucial, predictable, error was the unanimous selection of Mankad over Bedi. Mankad has a slightly inferior all-round Test record to Chris Cairns, who was left out of New Zealand's team. Many respected judges consider Bedi, with his subtle flight and variations, to be India's greatest bowler on good pitches. During the 1970s, when he took more first-class wickets than anyone in the world, most critics thought Bedi a superior, more complete, left-arm spinner than Underwood, who has made the England all-time side. Srinath's long uneven Test career should not have gained him preference over Amar Singh or Nissar, bowlers of higher class whose limited international opportunities were unavoidable and more than balanced by excellent first-class figures. Amar Singh's 5.5 wickets per match are second only to Murali among bowlers from the sub-continent.

Posted by pollachiprakash on (September 14, 2010, 12:03 GMT)

please delete this team for selecting srinath instead of zaheer

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 12:01 GMT)

Mr.MUNEEB,Have u ever watched the bowling of Javagal Srinath,it is quite unfair to make some wrong comments about him,i reckon he is very next to Kapil Dev,2nd greatest fast bowler of India ever produced,there are fast bowlers who can bowl faster than Srinath,but,they may never played for Indian team.I have closely watched the most of matches Srinath Played,I am glad to see him in All Time Indian X1.Who can forget his 8 wickets against Pakistan in Calcutta in an unresponsive pitch.Hope u would better agree with me

Posted by talentHunt1947 on (September 14, 2010, 11:57 GMT)

Where is Azharuddin? He is omitted because he is a muslim? What is the achievement of Dhoni???

Posted by Ranj1 on (September 14, 2010, 11:54 GMT)

Ganguly is a walk-in for me....One of the WORLD's greatest!!! An Indian XI without him is just not right.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 11:54 GMT)

I was disappointed when Engineer wasn't shortlisted in the WK slot. But now, I am glad to see the team. Well balanced, and the bowling has variety. I can see some comments which asks "why 3 spinners'. The simple answer is that Mankad is a true all-rounder, so count him as 2 people. There had to be a leg and an off spinner. Tragic to see Chandra miss out, in my mind, he was far above Kumble in quality, not stats though. I would have picked either Vishwa or Merchant at No.5. And surely Zaheer is way ahead of Srinath in any condition. Srinath didn't even look average even in home condition in the later part of his career. May be Amar Singh would have been a better choice.

Posted by reddy_rulz on (September 14, 2010, 11:33 GMT)

i felt bad that SAURAVis not in the ATXI team ..in his period only indian team raises its standards & make so many matchs win.. but now dhoni got the best team with all best players still ,now also he is jerking ..bowinling attack in 2001 test in india againest aus was very poor still saurav make team best ..he always best captain & the best batsman...till now dhoni won some series because some where saurav make his mark in the team upto his retirement...

Posted by AhmadSaleem on (September 14, 2010, 11:31 GMT)

Hazare, Dhoni and Srinath should have not been included. There were better players than them. And surely mankad should have been replaced by greatest all rounder India has ever produced i.e Ravi Jadeja.

Posted by Rubz on (September 14, 2010, 11:29 GMT)

The Inclusion of Srinath shows how weak Indian Cricket has been. Over last 100 years ofcourse India is long way behind Australia, West Indies, South Africa or Pakistan.However it is porbably the best choice with exception of Laxman. Ganguly should be chosen just to lead Indian team.

Posted by cool.ninja on (September 14, 2010, 11:17 GMT)

I don't know the full history of Indian cricket though, still I am amazed how Dhoni made it to the ALL-TIME XI of India. In my opinion, Ganguly was a far more better better Leadership qualities, a good bowling option if nothing else is working and a better batsman with elegant technique. Dhoni has none of these.

Posted by SaifQazi on (September 14, 2010, 11:13 GMT)

i think this is a very good line-up.. sum might argue the spots of a few players bt then no XI is perfect to be honest.. v saw that with West Indies XI also that they had to pick a spinner even thoh they had such greaaaaaaaaaaat fast bowlers..

n Suresh has rightly pointed out abt Kumble.. no doubt in ma mind the Indian team has won more matches coz of Kumble bein in the team.. the spotlight for victories in Test shud be on Kumble.. batsmen were many, bt there was only one Kumble in the modern age of Indian cricket..!! minus Kumble from the equation n u start to feel wat a big hole there is Indian bowling.. truly a great competitor n servant to both, Indian cricket n cricket in general..

Posted by SAUMYAALOYSIUS on (September 14, 2010, 11:10 GMT)

Azar and luxman ought to be in the squad to strengthen the batting line-up. they can bat under pressure for a long period of time and a pair to be watched alongside marvan atapattu. so addition of these two is a must.

Posted by cricfanraj on (September 14, 2010, 11:02 GMT)

Hazare over Laxman/ Vishy is a bad decision. Including Mankad is a very POOR decision. Why do anyone want to have a batsment at 8.With this attack test match needs 50 days instead of 5 days to get other AT11 allout. Also 3 pacers is a must so Kapil should be all rounder and Sreenath and Zaheer (though tese two are average not much choice left) should be in the team. Other selections are fine. PRasanna is considered as one of the greatest offspinners of all time so don't underestimate him. Chandra and Subhash gupte were very good but Kumble has better record. What I liked in above article is the captain . Kumble. I totally agree with it. Sometimes I feel he should have got the captaincy for a long time may be even before Dravid.But we are fancy of batting more than bowling .

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 11:01 GMT)

That can't be right! no VVS Laxman in an Indian All time 11 makes it another one of those lists made by fan boys instead of cricket analysts.

Posted by Seshadri.Venkat on (September 14, 2010, 11:01 GMT)

The biggest miss on the list is GR Visvanath, who has won India far matches than many who have scored far more run than him. The Indian Eleven, would be far poorer in his absence.

Posted by laxmanrules on (September 14, 2010, 10:56 GMT)

Injjustice to laxman by a selectorial panel. Clearly the panel is steeped in nostalgia and romanticizes the past! Hazare over Laxman? Surely some justification is in order.

Posted by rakesh_85 on (September 14, 2010, 10:49 GMT)

Mr. Muneeb_Dawood!!! u raised question over Srinath's inclusion, can u name any Indian fast Bowler who played over 60 test matches and has average less than 30...???? even Zaheer averages 32-34 odd. Srinath deserves his place in this eleven and Zaheer too in place of Vinoo Mankad.

Posted by Realhotshady on (September 14, 2010, 10:48 GMT)

This team will definitely get draw after draw because the batsmen won't let them lose and the bowlers won't let them win. So if we want to saw a draw game after 5 days, you can pick this team. However, selecting Zaheer Khan ahead of Prasanna will make the team more competitive. With Zaheer comes the variety of left arm fast bowler along with right arm quickies of Kapil and Srinath.

Posted by sibs on (September 14, 2010, 10:47 GMT)

A single pace bowler and that too Srinath? Pathetic. The side is typical of Indian sides, heavy with batsmen and weak on fast bowlers. I cant see this side winning in West Indies, Australia or England. On tailor made spin wickets it can win but a lot weaker than other all time XIs. Plus only when India will beat SA and Aus on away tours can you call them number 1 in tests.

Posted by Him69 on (September 14, 2010, 10:40 GMT)

The panel apparently wanted this list to look like a real 'all-time' XI. Cricket is not just about skills, but performance too, and therefore numbers do matter. Still the list looks ok, except for the two V's in the middle. What about having Azharuddin (considering just his cricketing skills: batting and fielding) in stead of Hazare? This way, all the top-five would have 50+ average!!! Also, with Dhoni in the team along with all these batsmen, why do we need Mankad? Why don't we have Zaheer as an extra pacer to balance the team: 5 batsman, 5 bowlers and a wicketkeeper who can bat like the sixth batsman?

Posted by Nuur on (September 14, 2010, 10:31 GMT)

SRINATH?...in an all time greats??...there are better bowlers in club cricket in the world than him but then again India dont have ANY fast bowlers. And why 3 spinners?? when Sachin Tendulkar and Sehwag can also bowl spin??

This is a poor selection. How would this bowling attack perform in Australia and also South Africa? They could've done better.

and VVS shouldve been picked ahead of Hazare. everybody knows his 281, but his 3 centuries in a week in Australia, how many people have achieved that??

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 10:26 GMT)

A brilliant selection of batsmen and keeper that any world class cricketing nation would feel envious of, however, the selection of all-time greatest bowlers seems well short of the mark, highlighting the fact that when it comes to fast bowling, India hasn't really been lucky in this department over the last few decades, save for Kapil Dev!!

Posted by Beertjie on (September 14, 2010, 10:22 GMT)

I enjoyed Meety's two teams, but it is very puzzling that he has Hammond as an opener - that is ludicrous; it should have been Hobbs. Given that pace bowling was Sobers's stronger suit as a bowler, there is no need for 3 specialist pace bowlers. Murali has to join Warne as a spin-twin! My all-time XI (also biased towards Australia) would be as follows 1. Hobbs, 2. Gavaskar 3. Bradman [capt] , 4. Tendulkar, 5. V Richards, 6.Sobers, 7. Gilchrist, 8. Marshall, 9. Warne 10. Lillee, 11.Murali. As for the opposition alternate All-time XI - 1. B Richards, 2. Hutton, 3. Kallis, 4. Headley, 5. Hammond, 6. Imran Khan, 7. Akram, 8. Knott, 9. Ambrose, 10. O'Reilly, 11. Barnes. Yes, it's hard to bet against any side that had Bradman in it, but look at Barnes's strike rate (187/27 surpasses Murali's!). I didn't see Barnes but he seems like a much faster version of Kumble and Chandra- not only great on SA's matting wickets, but also on good batting wickets in Australia.

Posted by RogerC on (September 14, 2010, 10:18 GMT)

To those who didn't like Dhoni's inclusion -> go find out who is in Australia's all time XI. Is it Rod Marsh or Adam Gilchrist?

Posted by replyramdas on (September 14, 2010, 10:17 GMT)

How on earth Dhoni got place in there ? Nor can he keep well, neither can he bat...I need a better keeper...the best I saw is Mongia(he's the oldest keeper I watched)

Posted by Biophysicist on (September 14, 2010, 10:13 GMT)

@ bkraks21. Please read Sharda Ugra's article in Cricinfo entitled "A batsman of imagery and imagination" on 8th August 2010 to know VVS's special achievements. Apart from that 281 (which is of course the best innings by an Indian batsman when the team is in crisis), he has another 15 centuries most of which were scored when the team badly needed him to score!

Posted by SathyaPeraboina on (September 14, 2010, 10:05 GMT)

@ Muneeb_Dawood - Like you said 'India's fast bowling stocks (have) been so limited over the years'. While Srinath was a GOOD bowler, I agree that he wud not have made it to any other TOP natioinal side.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:51 GMT)

Concrete batting line up - bowling lacks a couple of bowlers. I would have thought zaheer khan deserved a slot, he has single handedly lead the indian attack. Minus zaheer we have seen recent very poor bowling performances.

Posted by sonofchennai on (September 14, 2010, 9:45 GMT)

@bkraks21 : ur question is plain ridiculous that noone except me would even bother to answer...dont even let this thought flash in ur mind about what VVS has done...

Posted by FarazSomjee on (September 14, 2010, 9:42 GMT)

Very honestly, this Indian 11 will not beat any other 11 of world except for SL or NZ occassionaly or may be PK on rare occassions. In test you need 20 wickets and with Kapil and company you cant get that against the other countries best 20.

Posted by sonjjay on (September 14, 2010, 9:40 GMT)

Someone here has suggested that should be Azhar in here. It would be a real shame to have him in the list alongside these players, thank god the selectors didnt go for him. Good to see Prasanna ahead of Bedi and some fans have rightly pointed out the noticeble omission of VVS...

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:37 GMT)

Also, somebody apparently told Vasu Paranjape that this was an all time Mumbai / Maharashtra XI, instead of an all time India XI: Gavaskar, Merchant, Tendulkar, Hazare, MAK Pataudi, Phadkar, Kapil Dev, Mankad, Tamhane, Gupte, Prasanna. We know Indian cricket selectors are always parochial and biased, but can we at least leave those aside for a fantasy / fictional team?

Posted by Gautham_Kamath on (September 14, 2010, 9:37 GMT)

with all due respects to bkraks21, you do not seem to understand cricket as well as an ardent cricket lover does. This judgement is just based on the fact that you do not understand the importance of Laxman. He is the right batsman to have played in the wrong era. He has been overshadowed by the stubbornness of Dravid and flamboyance of Tendulkar. He had made middle-order strong and your comment "Other than his 281 and few other what else" is just an insult to cricket lovers. 281 is without doubt the best innings ever played by an Indian in test cricket (yes, Dravid's contribution here certainly cannot be ignored). The second part "and few other". This, my friend, is consistently holding the lower middle order strong. If he was to constantly bat at number 3 or 4, I would not be arguing here. Comming back to the selection, a bit disappointed that Laxman is not there but was expecting this as that bunch was too crowded. Not having any one of Nissar, Amarsingh or Zaheer is surprising.

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 9:37 GMT)

this may be the best combination. vijay hajare is the best batsman in 1950s.and average of 47 indicate this. similarly mankad is best before kapil as a allrounder spot. so it gives variety in the team as batting and bowling are concerned. he can also open for india and can bowl 50 overs in an inning with good economy rate. so he is an anonymous choice. i am pleased to see the team combination. threeworld class spinners. 4 rocking batsman 1 great batsman wktkeeper 2 world class allrounders 1medium pacer(hazare) and two fasters. all can come in a single team. a team which has great bowling side. this team can bowl 200 overs without tiredness. and the captain of this team is anil kumble with dhoni is deputy. in test kumble is the right choice. see perth test is the best example

Posted by jithujose on (September 14, 2010, 9:36 GMT)

One would say this is beyond doubt the greatest batting side India can dream of having. I don't disagree. But my vote goes to Laxman, for the no.5 position. It is not solely because of his brilliant bating on a consistent note for over 100 matches as opposed to Vijay Hazare's, I must say very impressive performances, in 30 odd matches. But also for the fact that Laxman, as he as done on multiple occasions, can single handedly turn the fate of a test match. Having said this, this is truly a dream bating order for any team. Opening pair of Sewag and Gavaskar is a combination one could only dream of having. Who else deserves the no. 3 spot more than Dravid. 'THE GOD OF CRICKET' at No 4 is the obvious and undisputed choice for any team any era. Even if its an all time world 11. And Dhoni at no.6 may not be the greatest wicket keeper India has seen, but definitely the best batman who have kept wickets for India.

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 9:36 GMT)

this may be the best combination. vijay hajare is the best batsman in 1950s.and average of 47 indicate this. similarly mankad is best before kapil as a allrounder spot. so it gives variety in the team as batting and bowling are concerned. he can also open for india and can bowl 50 overs in an inning with good economy rate. so he is an anonymous choice. i am pleased to see the team combination. threeworld class spinners. 4 rocking batsman 1 great batsman wktkeeper 2 world class allrounders 1medium pacer(hazare) and two fasters. all can come in a single team. a team which has great bowling side. this team can bowl 200 overs without tiredness. and the captain of this team is anil kumble with dhoni is deputy. in test kumble is the right choice. see perth test is the best example

Posted by Beertjie on (September 14, 2010, 9:34 GMT)

Two comments:

You write "South Africa had Mike Procter to help Shaun Pollock and Allan Donald" - that is unfair to Jaques Kallis who needs to be acknowledged alongside any all-rounder/ pace bowler in the various team lists, given his record.

To those who suggest that this bowling attack lacks killer instinct, I partially agree. That is why despite his evident greatness I decided against Pras and went for Chandra! Agreed Kumble 's record is greater, but Kumble and Chandra wouls make as fearsome a combo as Warne and O'Reilly! Where does it say that you can't opt for two bowlers of the same kind for your team. Given the kind of bowlers the 2 Indians are, I think they would complement each other perfectly, just as Warne and O'Reilly would have done for Oz.

So I need to repeat my complaint about confining straight-jacket categories in the way the various slots (and selections) were arrived at.

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 9:31 GMT)

alll time odi 11............. 1.gilchrist 2. sachin 3.ponting 4. kallis 5. richords 6. bevan 7.klusner 8.akram 9.pollock 10.muralitharan 11.lee/mcgrath. this team can face any of the team in the world. everybody is perfect. 2 attacking 1. defencive(kallis) 2greats of odi(sachin/ponting) can make run in any situation 2 perfect match finisher 4 best bowlers of his time in which 2 can bat also and provide the momentum.

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 9:30 GMT)

alll time odi 11............. 1.gilchrist 2. sachin 3.ponting 4. kallis 5. richords 6. bevan 7.klusner 8.akram 9.pollock 10.muralitharan 11.lee/mcgrath. this team can face any of the team in the world. everybody is perfect. 2 attacking 1. defencive(kallis) 2greats of odi(sachin/ponting) can make run in any situation 2 perfect match finisher 4 best bowlers of his time in which 2 can bat also and provide the momentum.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:27 GMT)

i dnt understand the fuss about the bowling. we've got 5 specialist bowlers (2 are all-rounders - kapil and mankad). 3 quicks and 2 spinners. and mankad bowled both varieties. plus we got sehwag, and if needed sachin as well.

Posted by AB_DeVilliers on (September 14, 2010, 9:25 GMT)

Has India's fast bowling stocks been so limited over the years that Srinath makes this list?? SRINATH?? No ways...the bloke averages more than 30 in test cricket, and would not make any other all-time international team. Sorry, weak choice.

Posted by mknkmak on (September 14, 2010, 9:23 GMT)

Well among the all time XI teams, this Indian team look a very weak team. you cannot win by playing strong batting side and a weak bowling side. i think Indians have no choice to pick a team with strong bowling. BOTTOM LINE INDIANS NEVER PRODUCED GREAT BOWLERS. Other all time XI teams like Australia, England, Pakistan and South Africa beat them comprehensively.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:23 GMT)

Cant complain too much except for the balance of the side a bit. Zaheer for Prasanna is one option. Mohinder for Vijay Hazare could be debated though selectors did not allow Mohinders record to flourish, lastly I wud go for Kirmani over Dhoni.... Kumble as captain is just an awesome inspired choice.

Posted by vaks on (September 14, 2010, 9:14 GMT)

continued....mankad has great stats...If v r playing in aus,I would hav picked bedi ahead of prasanna bcoz of his great record in dat country.I will also include another seamer if v r playing away from sub continent....

Posted by vaks on (September 14, 2010, 9:11 GMT)

I think it's a very good team.Batting line up is so strong so that v can face n score runs on any pitch against any all time xi including aus,wi,pak......u don't have to worry abt batting.....it spans up to no8......if u look at the stats of vvs,hazare; they both r greats.but i would've picked vvs ahead of hazare bcoz I've seen him playing n he can deliver at bad times(with dis batting line up, that may rarely occur).I think M.Amarnath was also a good option.Look at his record against wi,pak,aus...great overseas avgs...v've a fairly good bowling attack...kapildev n srinath can do wonders on any pitches.our generation haven't seen prasanna and mankad.so it's not fair to underestimate their talents.if u look at d recors,prasanna is d best among spin quartet....kumble can take wickets on any pitch(he started to perform well overseas during his 2nd half of career)..mankad was a great allrounder.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 9:09 GMT)

I would have loved to see zaheer khan in this team ...................

Posted by AbhiPro on (September 14, 2010, 9:04 GMT)

What a bizarre selection! What are 3 spinners doing in the XI? How will this bowling attack perform in Australia, South Africa and England? And Srinath ahead of Zaheer? Srinath might have been quicker, but Zaheer is the more complete bowler, by a long distance. Zaheer goes ahead of Srinath in my XI. You just CAN'T have 3 spinners, Srinath comes in for either one of Prasanna or Mankad. With Dhoni being wasted at No. 8, I would exclude Mankad. Dhoni can easily go in at No. 6/7, so that means Mankad's batting ability is not required. Spinner for spinner, Prasanna goes ahead of Mankad, for the variety he brings with his off-spin. And Hazare ahead of Gundappa & VVS? Its a toss-up between Gundappa & VVS. My XI: Sunny, Viru, Rahul, Sachin, VVS/Gundappa, Kapil, Dhoni, Anil, Srinath, Zaheer, Pras. Now that is a bowling attack that will get you 20 wickets! Seems the jury has erred on the side of caution by picking so many batsmen. And they are the same who will criticise defensive captains!!!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:48 GMT)

For a selection panel of wise men who did not think of Sehwag, Kumble, and Dravid as unanimous picks, that is a pretty awesome team. I have a similar team here at: http://vasusworld.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/fantasia-cricket/ Gavskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Sachin, Azhar, Dhoni, Kapil (Captain), Bhajji, Kumble, Zaheer, Srinath My additional criteria were to pick only players I have seen live or loads of footages of, and the best possible fielding XI. But that not being the criteria for Cricinfo, Hazare ahead of Azhar, and Prasanna ahead of Bhajji are good picks. Vinoo Mankad was a great all rounder no doubt, but picking only two seamers, and ignoring a modern master of bowling on dead sub continental wickets like Zaheer, does not 9 seem right. An all time world XI that has only two fast medium men is no good.

Posted by ashishkumar36 on (September 14, 2010, 8:46 GMT)

I am totally agree with this XI, although judges have not picked third pacer - Amarsingh or Nissar. I am really happy that they have included Hazare in their XI. A well balanced side with great batting lineup. Next is what....I dont think there would be any All Time XI for Zimbabwe or Bangladesh. The next would be "World All time XI".

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 8:42 GMT)

I believe the jury wants to "draw" the games. It is a perfect team for that purpose. If the idea is to win then you need bowlers who can take 20 wickets! Look at the bowler careers, they could rarely win a game for India even at their peak except for perhaps Kumble on Indian pitches.

Fast bowling wins games (check the record for every team and any era. Winners always have 3 fast bowlers who together can knock off at least 7-8 wickets per innings. My team would have Kapil, Nissar, Amar Singh and one spinner Kumble (Zaheer depending on the pitch). No pras, bedi, venkat etc

Wicket keeper - Kirmani , you need a good keeper and not good batter Others - Sehvag, gavasker, dravid, tendulker, Hazare/vishwanath I will have Pataudi leading the team. You need a strong leader to make them play as a team to win!

Posted by Percy_Fender on (September 14, 2010, 8:38 GMT)

This is certainly about the best team possible. I may have liked Amar Singh in place of Srinath not because he was from my time or that I had seen him. It probably has to do with what Len Hutton and Wally Hammond, two the greatest batsmen of all time had to say of him after having faced him in England and India. Even if it was probably the form to heap praise on their opponents in those days,Sir Leonard, a bred in purple Yorkshireman and Walter Hammond often considered as England's own Bradman, it seems an honest tribute that they paid to Ladhabhai Amar Singh in his prime. The Kathiawari just cannot be ignored.He was probably India's Kieth Miller or MIke Procter. Unfortunate that we are so influenced by the present and our success. Dhoni is very very good I know and his luck and talent have contributed in no small measure to India's present pre-eminence. But if we are to be objective Kirmani was simply the best wicket keeping all rounder we have had.

Posted by bkraks21 on (September 14, 2010, 8:20 GMT)

To all who suggest Laxman should be included. Other than his 281 and few other what else has he achieved?

Posted by HLANGL on (September 14, 2010, 8:19 GMT)

Perfect choices...This Indian XI would possibly be the one & only all-time XI picked in CricInfo so far which I can agree with. India seems to have had just the right number of perfect options, no more (especially as in the case of WIs all-time XI), no less (especially as in the case of SL all-time XI, I'm a Sri Lankan too, but I have to say). In all other cases, the final XI had either missed few genuinely great players (The WIs XI had missed Everton Weeks, Clyd Walcott, Clive Lloyd, etc. Also Haynes & Fedricks to a lesser degree.), or some mediocre players had come in in the absence of great ones (The SL XI EXCEPT De Silva, Jayasuriya, M'tharan, Vaas, S'kara. They had selected some bowlers with first class bowling averages in mid 30s & some batsmen with first class batting averages in mid 30s with most of the (highly exaggerated) comments coming from so-called experts in local media like Mahinda Wijesinghe, Ranil Abeynayake, etc.).

Posted by HLANGL on (September 14, 2010, 8:19 GMT)

Perfect choices...This Indian XI would possibly be the one & only all-time XI picked in CricInfo so far which I can agree with. India seems to have had just the right number of perfect options, no more (especially as in the case of WIs all-time XI), no less (especially as in the case of SL all-time XI, I'm a Sri Lankan too, but I have to say). In all other cases, the final XI had either missed few genuinely great players (The WIs XI had missed Everton Weeks, Clyd Walcott, Clive Lloyd, etc. Also Haynes & Fedricks to a lesser degree.), or some mediocre players had come in in the absence of great ones (The SL XI EXCEPT De Silva, Jayasuriya, M'tharan, Vaas, S'kara. They had selected some bowlers with first class bowling averages in mid 30s & some batsmen with first class batting averages in mid 30s with most of the (highly exaggerated) comments coming from so-called experts in local media like Mahinda Wijesinghe, Ranil Abeynayake, etc.).

Posted by Sameer-hbk on (September 14, 2010, 8:17 GMT)

Vijay hazare over VVS, really? Not that i ever watched the former bat, but 7 test match centuries of which 5 came at home and 4 of those home centuries came at one ground in Mumbai; which i assume was more or less home turf for Hazare. The other two away 100+ knocks came in one Adelide match which seems to be a pretty flat track with Australia piling more than 650+ runs in their one and only innings in that match. Compare that to Laxman's legendary match winning knocks and really the panel erred on the side of nostalgia... Or maybe they did not want to pick 7 players from the golden generation...

Posted by JK.5555 on (September 14, 2010, 8:14 GMT)

i have impressed with India all time XI but i think v.v.s laxman must is in XI as per his ability and performance,I think in comparison of technique and trouble condition v.v.s. laxman is one of the gretest among all Indian cricketer

best of luck v.v.s laxman

Posted by FAB_ALI on (September 14, 2010, 8:13 GMT)

For those who think this bowling attack lacks killer instinct, we have to accept that India has never had a fearsome bowling attack (especially seamers) and thus, you cant ask for it in All Time XI. But still I think this attack is good enough to trouble any side on any surface given the variety and skills.

Posted by jkaussie on (September 14, 2010, 8:12 GMT)

Can someone please invent the technology so we can have an ATXI from Australia, WI, Eng and India play each other? Apologies to the other countries but these 4 just have the stars that you would love to watch! Imagine Viv Richards v Shane Warne! Sachin v Holding & Marshall! Trueman v Lara! Bradman v all of them!! :) And then on different pitches in each country from more than 15 years ago, when they were actually different! Woo hoo what a series...put the IPL to shame I reckon.

Posted by sanzo5 on (September 14, 2010, 8:09 GMT)

I would still add amr singh instead of vinoo mankand i agree he is a good player bt still the pace dept is important when this team travels to play outside india

Posted by Biophysicist on (September 14, 2010, 8:08 GMT)

Just as you have posted notes about the XI members picked by the jury, it would be fair to post something similar about those who were selected by the readers (but do not figure in the XI selected by the jury. In this case, it VVS Laxman who belongs to this category and I am sure there is no dearth of positive comments and high praise about his accomplishments and performances.

Posted by FAB_ALI on (September 14, 2010, 8:08 GMT)

Satisfied!!!! May be Ganguly would have fit in no.5 (7212 runs from 113 tests) much better than hazare and very close to laxman, he was no mug with the bat! Being left handed adds variety to batting order and brings serious leadership qualities to the team.

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 8:08 GMT)

second all time 11 include......................1.stcliff 2.hutton 3.hamond 4. kallis 5. lara 6.bothom 7.lasle ames 8.marshall 9.imran khan 10.mcgrath 11.muralitharan this team can also give good performance. 4 allrounders ie. kallis, imran,bothom,marshal. 1. stclif vs hobbs 2. hutton vs gavaskar 3.hamond vs bradman 4. sachin vs kallis 5.richords vs bothom 6. sobers vs kallis 7.gilch vs ames 8.hadlee vs marsal 9. imran vs. barnes 10. murli vs warne 11. ambrose vs mcgrath. only 2 comb. can create differance for first all time. bradman and gilchrist. a very good team. can fight with the 1st all time 11 in every area.

Posted by Biophysicist on (September 14, 2010, 8:01 GMT)

Among all the jury members, it is only Sharda Ugra who chose VVS Laxman. One can debate whether you should have taken Bedi in place of Prasanna, or Chandra/Gupte would make better second spinner for the all-time XI, but I am really shocked that some of the jury members rated Pataudi and Mohinder Amarnath better than VVS. Even Hazare who made it to the jury XI cannot be compared to the very very special Laxman, who is always given a raw deal.

Posted by george204 on (September 14, 2010, 8:00 GMT)

The selection for this "all time" XI is nearly as deranged as the England one...

Posted by aruntheselector on (September 14, 2010, 7:52 GMT)

This is the best combination the panel has selected.Had it been 3 genuine spinners Mankad should have made way for Chandra/Bedi.Also nice to see that the readers 11 matches that of the panels except for No.5 batsman.That is because most of the readers like me have seen cricket only post Sachin.However,being a avid reader of cricket I selected Hazare above Vishy & Vishy above Lax.No doubt that the capability of Laxs is unique and his performances have decided the result of matches,I feel he had the advantage of batting in a lineup that had Viru,Dravid,Sachin & Ganguly thereby taking off some pressure unlike Vishy though not consistent batted in a team where only Sunny was a reliable batsman.Also India never lost when he scored a 100+(11 100s).However,considering that Hazare played when India was just an entrant in cricket he averaged 47 including centuries against Bradmans team and good bowling attacks in uncovered pitches he deserves a place in the all time 11.

Posted by Biophysicist on (September 14, 2010, 7:48 GMT)

I write this to point out to Suresh Menon who wrote in DNA recently that "For so long and so well has VVS Laxman played that role that we have paid him the ultimate compliment spectators can pay a performer -- noticing him only when he fails." Yes, you are right Suresh! In just about a month or so, you also forgot VVS Laxman, because during the last month or so VVS did not have a chance to show again that he comes to rescue when the Indian team is in crisis!

Posted by anubhav.sarathy on (September 14, 2010, 7:48 GMT)

wow... 4 bangaloreans and only 3 mumbaikars in the all time 11., and the two who most ppl are fussing abt are also from bangalore( CHandra and vishvanath)..

Posted by soaf on (September 14, 2010, 7:43 GMT)

this team will get the beating of the lifetime .their bowling attack is looking as one of the worst compare to all international all time xi's.the batsmen are overrated and really can be called as lions of their own den.this pathetic batting line will completely expose when they will face likes of waz, waqar , imaran lille marshall and ambrose.for sehwag "test is cricket is dying because of thIS stupid and bigot batsman who can only score on flat and dead pitches'.GO INDIA GO SEND THIS TEAM ON ANY INT'L TOUR AND WATCH THE MOCKERY OF YOUR LEGENDS.

Posted by Jkgsrt on (September 14, 2010, 7:42 GMT)

hamand cant be a opener, so all time............... 1. hobbs 2.gavaskar 3.bradman 4.sachin 5. richords 6. sobers 7. guilchrist 8.hadlee 9.warne 10.sf barnes 11.lili ambrose or mcgrath. probably ambrose because can change a match in half an hour.this team is pretty accurate. top 7 batsman can face any type of bowling. each batsman has its own style. 2 attacking batsman(gil and rich) 2 great openers best allrounder, 2 batting god of his generation(breadman and sachin) , best fast bowler(barnes) and best spinner who can turn a match in some time. what do u want more. can not lose a test on any day whether it is 5 days or no restriction on days.

Posted by emailsachu on (September 14, 2010, 7:37 GMT)

my all-time india 11 would be : 1.Sunil Gavaskar 2.Virender Sehwag 3.Rahul Dravid 4.Sachin Tendulkar 5.Mohd. Azharuddin 6.Kapil Dev 7.M S Dhoni 8.Vinoo Mankad 9.Anil Kumble 10.Zaheer Khan 11.Javagal Srinath I would make sure i have bowling allrounders than batting allrounders. with vinoo mankad coming at no.8 and anil kumble at no.9, i guess i have a safe team in my hands.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 7:29 GMT)

what a joke? This 11 is based on international record or domestic first class record? Laxman, Zaheer and harbhajan should be in the team instead of hazare, Mankad, and Prasanna. Look their international record and how many game they won forIindia.

Posted by UltimateCricExpert on (September 14, 2010, 7:21 GMT)

@cricinfans: You r wrong. Bowling means not always super fast bowling. Having three specialist, unique and match winning spinners will never make a team worst. This India XI bowling is very competitive, with very strong spin dept. and fair medium fast bowling.

Posted by Umamahesh_Srigiriraju on (September 14, 2010, 7:18 GMT)

I'm not surprised with the omission of VVS by the jury akin to the omissions by selection committee. He along with Dravid and Sachin are the 'to go to' men of this era. It is just a shame that he never gets his due, be it a jury or the selection committee. Good to see that the viewers got it right. Dravid is second to Bradman in terms of achievements at the no.3 position. It boggles why he almost got a unanimous nod instead of a unanimous nod?! Surprises galore. But I'm not surprised. Being a follower of Indian Cricket for nearly two and a half decades now, I got used to these surprises.

Posted by ranjitht on (September 14, 2010, 7:18 GMT)

Hi All, Where is our altime star Saurav Ganguly who has palyed truly and shown to the world that India can win in overseas who built the team which Dhoni is leading now. I am upset the people not selected him.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 7:13 GMT)

Suresh sir how can u forget Dravid because he was also the greatest match winner for India in the period apart from kumble. Ganguly was successful because in that period dravid scored nearly 23% of total runs by the team when the team won.

Posted by rustin on (September 14, 2010, 7:09 GMT)

Sorry I wont be able to stop commenting here... I see no reason why any of these batsmen should be picked over VVS.. Yes even SRT......

Posted by Rake1 on (September 14, 2010, 7:04 GMT)

Good team. I am not too sure of the balance - 3 spinners & 2 seamers. Not the ideal combination in SA, Eng, Aus, NZ & WI. I would have gone for Zaheer instead of Prasanna.

Posted by Meety on (September 14, 2010, 6:56 GMT)

My all-time XI would be biased towards Australia as follows 1. Hammond, 2. Gavaskar 3. Bradman [capt] , 4. Tendulkar, 5. V Richards, 6.Sobers, 7. Gilchrest, 8. Hadlee, 9. Warne 10. Lillee, 11.Ambrose. Then I thought who would play them so I had to select an alternate All-time XI - 1. B Richards, 2. Hammond 3. Miandad, 4. Kallis, 5. G Chappell, 6. Khan, 7. K Miller, 8. Knott, 9. Marshall, 10. Trueman, 11. Muralitheran. The winner, it would be hard to bet against any side that had Bradman in it. Most batsmen I selected were of an attacking style, and most bowlers had pretty good strike rates.

Posted by Mannix16 on (September 14, 2010, 6:55 GMT)

Huge mistake. Surprised that even the readers 11 thought that prasanna should be there instead of bedi.

Posted by chicagochinnodu on (September 14, 2010, 6:51 GMT)

i agree with rustin!!! this a joke!!! no laxman????????

Posted by garvb on (September 14, 2010, 6:50 GMT)

oh come on people...despite having the convenience of those two all-rounders in Kapil and Dhoni, how can you not pick another seamer to make it a 5 bowler attack. Surely, Mohammad Nissar or Amar Singh or Zaheer Khan in place of Vinoo Mankad. We already have to two spinners Kumble and Pras. Surprising XI really. Could have been better with 4 bowlers + Kapil.

Posted by Meety on (September 14, 2010, 6:48 GMT)

A very strong batting line, I always admired K Dev - but the bowling lacks a bit, I mean Srinath was an honest toiler - but an Indian all time XI? I think this side would struggle to take 20 wickets against other all time XI, conversely they wouldn't get bowled out twice too often - or would they? Did you see the WI al-time XI? It would whet the appetite - the All Time XI World Series. I personally think it would be 1. Australia, 2 WI, 3. England, 4. India, 5. Sth Africa, 6. Pakistan then a distant 7th & 8th for NZ & SL. The difference between 1 to 6 would be minimal. A World XI would be hard to pick, I think there are only 2 Indians I would select in my all-time XI - Tendulkar & Gavaskar.

Posted by PraveenMangu on (September 14, 2010, 6:46 GMT)

The jury seems to be similar to the selection committee in omitting Laxman! But, the readers haven't gone wrong. This again proves why VVS is ignored again and again. No disrespect for Hazare, but he is no match to Laxman.

Seems that Rahul and Kumble are close to automatic choices - not automatic choices. What a pity!

Posted by rakesh_85 on (September 14, 2010, 6:44 GMT)

Iam very satisfied with this XI, they all deserve their place in the eleven. I don't know how Hazare's and Mankad's have played but i felt VVS Laxman is the most notable absentee. He is a very special player should have been in this squad atleast as a 12th player. Gavaskar's a legend easily on eof the best openers in the game, Sehwag a game changer he should fit in any team. Dravid an automatic selection and then th master called TENDULKAR simply the pride of India. Kapil Dev comes in as the allrounder best India have ever produced Dhoni has done enough to score over Kirmai's, Engineers', More n Mongia. Anil Kumble is India's greatest match winner he is in my choice is a trump card of this team. i have seen somebody written of Srinath n Prasanna here but they were absolutely wrong. Srinath has produced some match winning spells for India with limited support from other end but yes Zaheer is touch unlucky to miss out. Prasanna scores over Harbhajan and Bedi.

Posted by ssenthil on (September 14, 2010, 6:42 GMT)

This is a good team except MS Dhoni who used to drop a Catch per Inning/Match while others deserve their place. They have 2 Fast bowlers and 3 Spinners and I m so happy that Vinoo Mankad was chosen unanimously. They have all type of Spin and then who is asking where are the Bowlers? Right Kapil, Kumble, Srinath, Erapalli Prasanna and Vinoo Mankad are good enough to bowl out any opposition while you have V Sehwag and Vijay Hazare as additional bowling option for Spin and Medium Fast while don't forget Sachin who's wicket taking ability that changes the match and in every famous win of India like the Kolkata, Adelaide and Multan (M Khan Bowled) is more then good enough. Don't keep cry for the Bowlers.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:41 GMT)

Truly the Golden Age. A comparison of all eight countries' All Time XI's suggests why its only now that India has achieved the No. 1 ranking. Couldn't have agreed more on this XI but even this simply doesnt stack up against some of the others. I cant identify with the Aussie and English teams given they are largely from a different era. But the Pak All Time XI is a cut above the rest in my view with the Windies coming in second.

Posted by thenkabail on (September 14, 2010, 6:40 GMT)

Chandra a must: Much of this is influenced by present generation. Look the very best all time XI + additional 5 are: 1. Sunil Gavaskar, 2. Vijay Merchant (captain), 3. Virendra Shewag, 4. Sachin Tendulkar, 5. Rahul Dravid, 6. Kapil Dev, 7. Vinoo Mankad, 8. Farrok Engineer, 9. Ervapalli Prasanna, 10. Bishen Bedi, and 11. Bagawat Chandrashekar, 12. GR Viswanath, 13. Vijay hazare, 14. Javagal Srinath, 15. Anil Kumble, and 16. Mahendra Singh Dhoni. Vishy can play in XI if anyone is injured or out of form or at times in Vinoo Mankad's place (we have 4 bowlers then). Also Srinath can play instead of Mankad when the pitch is fast. Farook is far better keeper than Dhoni and both are about the same class as batsmen. Not having Merchant and Chandra is total dumb. Indeed, I will have Merchant as captain.

Posted by ushakiran on (September 14, 2010, 6:40 GMT)

MS dhoni. u have damn luck man.u r not even deserve to galli X1.

Posted by thenkabail on (September 14, 2010, 6:39 GMT)

Chandra a must: Much of this is influenced by present generation. Look the very best all time XI + additional 5 are: 1. Sunil Gavaskar, 2. Vijay Merchant (captain), 3. Virendra Shewag, 4. Sachin Tendulkar, 5. Rahul Dravid, 6. Kapil Dev, 7. Vinoo Mankad, 8. Farrok Engineer, 9. Ervapalli Prasanna, 10. Bishen Bedi, and 11. Bagawat Chandrashekar, 12. GR Viswanath, 13. Vijay hazare, 14. Javagal Srinath, 15. Anil Kumble, and 16. Mahendra Singh Dhoni. Vishy can play in XI if anyone is injured or out of form or at times in Vinoo Mankad's place (we have 4 bowlers then). Also Srinath can play instead of Mankad when the pitch is fast. Farook is far better keeper than Dhoni and both are about the same class as batsmen. Not having Merchant and Chandra is total dumb. Indeed, I will have Merchant as captain.

Posted by sanj1981 on (September 14, 2010, 6:37 GMT)

what a waste of time? talking about a non exisiting team. selected by a panel of 5/6 ppl. what a waste of time

Posted by ushakiran on (September 14, 2010, 6:36 GMT)

oh.. noooooo..dhoni in ATX1. HE DOESN'T PLAY IN OVERSEAS. HOW MANY TESTS HE PLAYED IN OVERSEAS.JOKER IN KEEPER ROLE. THIS IS SHAME TO CRICKET.

Posted by sjb550 on (September 14, 2010, 6:35 GMT)

I think that Merchant should have been picked ahead of Sehwag so that there could be a right hand left hand opening pair. Also, I think Ganguly ahead of Hazare, to add a left hander for balance in the middle order, and I would have Ganguly as captain - after all, he is their most succesful captain. Ganguly would also be beneficial as a right arm medium pace bowler - for example, if this team went to Australia, there would only be two pace bowlers, and that would not be sufficient. I can see merit for having Prasanna or Bedi - Prasanna to provide contrast, as he spins the ball a different way to Kumble, or Bedi because he is arguably better and a left armer. I can't believe that Farokh Engineer wasn't even considered - I would have picked him ahead of Dhoni, with Kirmani after Dhoni. Aside from that though, a very good test team, especially in India with the three spinners (Mankad, Kumble, Prasanna).

Posted by rustin on (September 14, 2010, 6:35 GMT)

No Laxman???? Again, No Laxman??? What is this,a joke? Kumble as captain... I think I will go back to sleep. All form of selectors are jokers in this country...

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:33 GMT)

The Indian top order versus the West Indian pace attack. Somebody recreate this via statistics and computer generation. Please!

Posted by ejsiddiqui on (September 14, 2010, 6:31 GMT)

I can't understand why India don't trust their batting, they always play with extra batsmen. There is absolutely no need of extra batsmen when you have allrounders like Kabil and Dhoni.

There should be another bowler. I would vote for Zaheer Khan. It would also add variety to all right handed team.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:31 GMT)

1. Gavaskar 2. Sehwag 3. Dravid 4. Tendulkar 5. Wishwanath 6. Kapil 7. Dhoni 8. Sri nath 9. Zaheer 10. Kumble 11. Harbajan

Posted by fyrestorm on (September 14, 2010, 6:28 GMT)

The batting is great, but only two fast bowlers? And IMO Zaheer in his pomp was better than Srinath. Also, Ganguly should have made it in. He revolutionised India's cricketing form away from home...a great captain.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:26 GMT)

The team could get fantastic by removing 'Sunny' and adding 'Sourav' as the opener.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:25 GMT)

And perhaps only India has the luxury to pick spinners of all 3 major variety, that too with more than one quality option for each kind!

Posted by Cricinfans on (September 14, 2010, 6:23 GMT)

worst bowling side of all time

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:23 GMT)

Strongest batting lineup by far. Bowling ok. VVS or Vishy instead of Hazarae might have been better choice...

Posted by Saravjit on (September 14, 2010, 6:22 GMT)

How can you miss out on VVS.............The Man Responsible for the Turnaround..........Who Always Stars in Great Victories...........Consistent Average of 50 Plus last 10 Years since Calcutta

i think Readers Team is more sensible then these Jokers

Where is Jimmy..................Hazare ? LOL

Posted by kirksland on (September 14, 2010, 6:18 GMT)

Well with all of the teams finally selected, a couple of points, the top four teams would undoubtably have to be Australia, West Indies, England and South Africa, with the best combinations of Batting, Bowling and Fielding. New Zealand and Sri Lanka are just outclassed, while India's bowling and Pakistan's batting being their weaker links.

Now here is a team of the best of the rest (plaers omitted from their coutries 11) Herbert Sutcliffe, Matthew Hayden, Ricky Ponting, Everton Weekes, Denis Compton, Clyde Walcott, Tony Greig, Jim Laker, Ray Lindwall, Joel Garner and Bishan Bedi.

Posted by Cric_Fanatic85 on (September 14, 2010, 6:14 GMT)

Perfectly balanced team.Great selections. Kudos to the Panel .

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 6:11 GMT)

Pace department is weak, but on the basis of exceptional batting strength, this should be a very competitive XI.

Posted by Neutral_Human on (September 14, 2010, 6:10 GMT)

Almost all the players that i chose except hazare where i went for gundappa, but it is still fine, it was a difficult choice between for the number 5. we had laxman, azhar, hazare, gundappa and vengasrkar to choose from. but I have a couple of questions from the selection panel. on the following lines "Four players - Sunil Gavaskar, Tendulkar, Kapil Dev and Mankad - were unanimous choices, while Sehwag, Dravid and Kumble were nearly so." how can someone choose anybody other then sehwag and dravid. I can somehow digest someone not choosing kumble as we had other spining greats like bedi, chandra etc but i want to know who chose who and why in place of sehwag and dravid. and HASAN MOBEEN we have Mankad who was a very fine bowler himself so thats make it 5 with two men with golden arm sachin and sehwag to accompany. This Team can take on anybody and be the winners. With the batting line up we have there is no one to match. JAI HO....

Posted by smalishah84 on (September 14, 2010, 6:03 GMT)

I am from Pakistan and I can only marvel at the richness of batting talent on display here. Man I wanna watch them play against the Pakistan or the westindies all timers. The batting is absolutely top class. The only worry for me is the bowling. There is not one single bowler with genuine pace. Medium fast bowlers will find it difficult to reverse swing the ball. The spinners might struggle on bouncy pitches with little spin. With just one quality genuine fast bowler in the side and it would have been the team to beat. I guess you can't have the best of everything. A test line-up that can definitely hold a match not sure if the bowling is good enough to finish off the opposition everywhere. Easily in the top 3 ATXI batting sides if not top 2 (definitely giving stiff competition to the top batting side).

Posted by shanemukesh on (September 14, 2010, 6:02 GMT)

I agree with comments "the indian all time XI looks weaker in comparison to most other countries' all time XI" - especially the bowling looks weaker. Batting - very good. Unlucky that Gundappa Vishwanath missed, but no places available, understandable. But the choice of keeper and some bowlers really debatable.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:58 GMT)

I don't particularly agree with the team picked because this is a typical team for the subcontinent, and there were periods during which India did not win any overseas series or test's for this fact. I would like my team to be more aggresive in the bowling department because our batting lineup is the best in the world. My team would consist of 1) Gavaskar 2) Sehwag 3) Dravid 4) Tendulkar 5) Laxman 6) Dhoni 7) Kapil 8) Kumble 9) Zaheer 10) Srinath 11) Prasanna. Now this team would be able to score heavily due to the superior batting line up and then take 20 wickets in all conditions thus being world beaters and not just tigers at home!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:57 GMT)

Best Xi from India u can get ...... really feel bad for Laxman. if he wasn't sacrifices his 3 no. spot for Rahul i m sure today in this list we must be Laxman at no. 3 spot. i will make Anil bhai as captain of this team.

Posted by VivaVizag on (September 14, 2010, 5:56 GMT)

It is indeed my privilege to watch the golden memories of Indian Cricket encored by the Golden Generation live. From the bottom of my heart -- Thank you Sachin, Kapil, Rahul, Anil, Viru, VVS, Sri, Mahi, Yuvi, Bhajji, Zak, and of course dearest Dada !!!

Posted by Rahul_78 on (September 14, 2010, 5:54 GMT)

too bating heavy, would have liked to see zaheer in for mankad. But thats the story of indian cricket for ages. Its always been batsmens game in india.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:52 GMT)

Four players from Karnataka in all-time IndiaXI. A state which produced more champions than any other.. Proud to be from this state.. Kudos Dravid, Kumble, Srinath and Prasanna..

Posted by UltimateCricExpert on (September 14, 2010, 5:48 GMT)

I will give this All time XI third rank, first & second being WI XI and Aussie XI. Reason being very strong batting line-up (may be the strongest ???). Very difficult to win against this team in INDIA

Posted by abhijithsimha on (September 14, 2010, 5:47 GMT)

there is no place vinoo mankad in the team his records are at best paltry; i would have replaced mankad with Azhar and Hazare with VVS; and also prasanna with Gupte; if we need an off spinner sehwag can do the job on any given day....

Posted by mk49_van on (September 14, 2010, 5:47 GMT)

Srinath? What a joke. I would take Zaheer or even some of the oldies - Amar Singh, Nissar over Srinath.

Posted by nideesh on (September 14, 2010, 5:46 GMT)

I guess bowling is a bit weak. But no measures either as india did not have bowlers to boast off. I am sad to see ganguly not in the picture. May be the jurys were right, his batting record in test is not good.

Posted by CricFan78 on (September 14, 2010, 5:46 GMT)

HasanMobeen Mankad, Kapil, Prasanna, Kumble and Srinath makes 5 bowlers !

Posted by mr.tamal.pal on (September 14, 2010, 5:44 GMT)

Need a third seamer in the team. Would swap mankad with zaheer. kapil & dhoni at 6 & 7 with zaheer, srinath & kumble will give the necessary batting depth.

Posted by vipin.chaudhary2325 on (September 14, 2010, 5:42 GMT)

mohd azharudin, laxman & vishwanath miss out.... dats a shame... u need at least one stylish player in ur team.... who can give charm to ur eyes

Posted by ani_che on (September 14, 2010, 5:42 GMT)

dear hasan,pls take off ur green-tinted spectacles!first of all,it's 5 and not 4 bowlers,mankad has 165 wickets in some 41 tests(how many bowlers do teams hav anyway??)and was a genuine allrounder like keith miller.the fast bowling isn't the best,but most AT-XIs will struggle against the spin trio of prasanna,kumble and mankad!and the batting part is self-explanatory(wid vvs and vishy missing out!)i can bet my life that this team can't be beaten on turning tracks!just appreciate that spin is as important and productive as pace,they are two sides of the coin which complete each other!

Posted by ChairmanValvod on (September 14, 2010, 5:41 GMT)

This is absolutely absurd. Well no the whole team but, the middle order seems to me a bit out of whack. Specifically the inclusion of Vijay Hazare and Vinoo Mankad over the likes of Azhar and Vangsarkar or Vishwanath. For anyone tgo tell me, at least those who saw Vishy and Azhar play, for anyone to tell me that Vijay Hazare and Mankad were better than those two in any category on any surface against any opossition is absolutely absurd. And did I freaking miss something, no Tendulkar???? Are you guys out of your mind?????

Posted by chaithan on (September 14, 2010, 5:37 GMT)

Dhoni???!!!! What rubbish!! This proves that Kirmani is seriously underrated- even by the experts. Besides, he kept(better than Dhoni ever will) to Prasana, Kapil, Chandrashekar( which would have been similar to keeping for kumble) and Bedi(again similar to Mankad). He would have been a far better choice.

Posted by AtticusFinch on (September 14, 2010, 5:34 GMT)

Except for Dhoni, this is an awesome team! And Srinath gets in due to the fact that there has not been too many exceptional fast bowlers besides Kapil and Nissar and Amar Singh played too little to be really judged for a selection like this!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:33 GMT)

Where's AzharUddin, Ganguly?

Posted by Markus971 on (September 14, 2010, 5:30 GMT)

When picking your best team, you have to put in your 'Best' at each position, while not forgetting team balance. -The first 5 are exactly how I would have had them, next, 6/ K.Dev , 7/ M.Dhoni ..that, I believe, is a strong enough Batting lineup. -8/ H.Singh , 9./J.Srinath , 10/B.Bedi , 11/B.Chandrasekhar!! -Yeh! it is still balanced & it is a better Team. -By the way I count 7 Bowlrs + Tendulkar makes 8! Overall batting average tally comes down 'what' 10 runs...Its bowlers that WIN matches. Nothing against V.Mankad, he is definetly in My squad of 15.

Posted by shanemukesh on (September 14, 2010, 5:30 GMT)

I feel bad about cricinfo didn't even mention Farook Engineer in the nominees of wicket keeper's list. Engineer should have been the first choice keeper, Kirmani second, and then may be Dhoni. Dhoni has lot time with him, he may be reach the level very higher when he retires, but now it should be Engineer, IMO.

Posted by Rhushi on (September 14, 2010, 5:25 GMT)

I think the jury has done exceptionally well to select the best possible all time XI. Top 4 in the batting order select themselves. Vijay Hazare (or VVS) for the 5th slot is a great choice. Presence of 3 all-rounders in Mankad, Kapil and Dhoni means Indian batting line-up is never-ending. Fast bowling has never been India's strongest suit and responsibility of winning the matches with the ball has traditionally been shouldered by Indian spinners. Therefore, selection of 3 different varieties of spinners and 2 fast bowlers is a great idea. Selection of Kumble over Chandra, Mankad over Bedi and Pras over Venkat/Bhajji is justified. Unfortunately, when it comes to fast bowlers, India doesn't have Wasims and Waqars or Marshalls and Ambroses to choose from. So, either Srinath or Zak as a second fast bowler is not a bad choice. I was not happy with jury's selection of nominations but the all time XI is spot on. Bravo Jury!

PS: Where's the readers XI?

Posted by khanyawar on (September 14, 2010, 5:22 GMT)

I cant believe Saurav Ganguly is not in the team. even VVS Laxman is better then Mankad or Hazare. Is their selection criteria based on the fact that they are just golden oldies?

Posted by adeel_ali on (September 14, 2010, 5:19 GMT)

They might score 600, but they can't take 20 wickets.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:18 GMT)

Tough pitches with a steep bounce and wet ones, really test and bring out the batting qualities and batsmanship.

A virendra Sehwag, though exciting and a Rahu Dravid though very steady, don;t think can match up to a GR Vishwanath on such pitches. Of course one can argue that Viru and Dravid were fighting for a different slots and not the same slot which Vishwanath was fighting for. You can always reshuffle positions.

Three/Four innings which defins Vishwanatah were both against West Indies, one was the 97 not out in Madras in 1976 when Roberts was on the rampage and another on the same pirch in 1980 , steep bounce on which Sylvester Clarke caused havoc. He scored 124 out of 250, I think

He was quite ordinary on flat pitches bt great on tough pitches. For the sake of argument, if one were to have only tough pitches, he would have been far ahead.Problem was , he was an amateur at heart and not very disciplined like a Gavaskar or a Dravid or a Tendulkar

Posted by vaidyar on (September 14, 2010, 5:18 GMT)

Get more servers for the comments :)

But yeah, great team! No complaints...yes, wish Vishy could've been part of it. But then Vijay Hazare brings his own style to the game. You can argue pros and cons with every player vis-a-vis <insert someone's favourite player here>, but eventually you can choose only 11 and this is a great team indeed.

Posted by Semoli on (September 14, 2010, 5:18 GMT)

This team is weak on bowling. It might win one day matches, but would be hard pressed to win test matches :(..

Posted by Rydham on (September 14, 2010, 5:13 GMT)

What is the need for 8 batsmen ? Why 3 fast bowlers are not there ? Cricinfo should provide the justification

Posted by laxman_sachin_devotee on (September 14, 2010, 5:05 GMT)

And as always, Laxman gets a raw deal from another selection panel & unfortunately in this case, He can't even prove them wrong on the pitch, with another superlative calm innings under pressure, as he has repeatedly done during his test career & briefly even in his ODI career which was much shorter than what it should have been. Anyways, the Aussies are coming & we know we'll soon be needing another Very very Special innings and we can count on a Very Very Special Player to deliver it.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 5:04 GMT)

Great team ... Can Demolish ne squad ... Man, it would've been amazing to watch Gavashkar and Sehwag destroy a bowling attack !!!!

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 4:59 GMT)

No Vijay Merchant? He had a FC average of 71, the next best after the Don.

Posted by thenkabail on (September 14, 2010, 4:59 GMT)

Where is Chandra?: It is so easy to be influenced by current players. In my opinion, the greatest indian team ever is: 1. Sunil Gavaskar, 2. Vijay Marchant, 3. Virendra Shewag, 4. Sachin Tendulkar, 5. Rahul Dravid, 6. Vinoo Mankad, 7. Kapil Dev, 8. Farook Engineer, 9. Bishen Bedi, 10. Ervapalli Prasanna, and 11. Bagwat Chandrashekar. Reserves: 12. G. R. Viswanath, 13. Anil Kumble, 14. Javgal Srinath, 15. Mahendra singh Dhoni, and 16. Vijay Hazare. This is indeed the best team you can have. There is no better bowling combination than chandra, Bedi, Prasanna backed by Kapil and Vinno Mankad. I may have Srinath replacing Mankd on fast pitches. Never forget that Shewag preferred middle order and thinks he would have scored more. Leaving Vijay Merchant out is never possible. If a batsman is injured or out of form you have great Viswanth. Vishy can also play instead of Mankd with 4 bowlers (Kapil, Chandra, Prasanna, and Bedi) at times.

Posted by the_complete_batsman on (September 14, 2010, 4:59 GMT)

Why on earth wasn't Dravid a unanimous choice at 3????

Posted by the_complete_batsman on (September 14, 2010, 4:57 GMT)

I thought vvs should have been in there....he is absolutely brilliant on his day, and a very good close in fielder too - a necessity with the quality of spinners we have. hazare would have been my third choice after vvs and vishy for no.5 Good overall team though, and damn near unbeatable at home.

Posted by uglyhunK on (September 14, 2010, 4:52 GMT)

Bowling does not give me confidence...

Posted by the_complete_batsman on (September 14, 2010, 4:48 GMT)

i wud have liked chandra or bedi there, instead of pras......they were the most feared spinners of their time.Aus have 2 leggies, so why can't we?

Posted by The_Big_Kahuna on (September 14, 2010, 4:47 GMT)

Where's the Cricinfo reader's XI?????

Most of the picks speak for themselves. The only change i would have done is to have Mohammad Nissar instead of Srinath

Posted by howizzat on (September 14, 2010, 4:41 GMT)

Iwould have prefered Mohindar Amarnath in place of V Hazare and S Kirmani in place of Dhoni. Otherwise its a nice Eleven.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 4:40 GMT)

Well It seems a well balanced unit, nevertheless giving Kumble the captaincy is quite confusing. Kapil Dev is the ideal person to lead the XI and Dhoini is not far behind too. Batting is the main strength for India and here it's cleary seen with Dhoni at 08.

Posted by Jim1207 on (September 14, 2010, 4:39 GMT)

Mike Marqusee probably do not know much about Dhyan Chand, Viswanathan Anand and Pankaj Advani in stating "certainly in other lands", but that's acceptable. But it's humiliating to see Kiran More's stupid comment on MS Dhoni, a poor corrupt person on one of the greatest wicket keeping batsmen India has ever produced. Certainly lot more better comment would be available from a better person. I believe this XI looks best that could have been taken from the lot otherwise. I would have loved to see Vijay Merchant and VVS Laxman but as it is stated this is the golden era for Indian Batting with legends all around, even all of them could not be drafted into the all-time XI. I feel for Farokh Engineer who wasn't even nominated by the jury and also for Ganguly, Vishy & Chandrasekar. They could make the squad any day. This XI could certainly take any team from any era and put up a strong fight, and even can be the best on a day. Cheers.

Posted by apaar.garg on (September 14, 2010, 4:32 GMT)

e rest is fine except for 2 players. prasanna should ot have been there. bishan bedi should be in his place and srinath should have made way for zaheer.

Posted by CricFan78 on (September 14, 2010, 4:28 GMT)

Brilliant team .... one of the strongest batting lineups. Must say Laxman is bit unlucky to miss out though.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 4:28 GMT)

This is just..... awesome. Speechless. I'm gonna say, bring on the other ATXI. This side is going to give them all a run for their money. Oh boy, if only they were all in one team at one time.

Posted by   on (September 14, 2010, 4:27 GMT)

the indian all time XI looks weaker in comparison to most other countries' all time XI

Posted by BillyCC on (September 14, 2010, 4:26 GMT)

Fantastic team, most unlikely unbeatable in their home turf over a series. This All Time XI and the West Indies All Time XI show the two extremes in world cricket, and both extremes will win plenty of games.

Posted by HasanMobeen on (September 14, 2010, 4:23 GMT)

Typical Indian team... Where are the bowlers man... They have total 4 bowlers in an all time XI... That really shows a batsmen dominated team... Overall best batting side of all time and worst bowling side...

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India Jury

Sambit Bal
Sambit Bal
Editor, Cricinfo
XI: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Mohinder Amarnath, Mankad, Kapil Dev, Dhoni, Srinath, Anil Kumble, Prasanna
Harsha Bhogle
Harsha Bhogle
Cricket commentator, presenter and writer. Has covered nearly 100 Tests and over 400 ODIs
XI: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Viswanath, Umrigar, Mankad, Kapil Dev, Kirmani, Kumble, Srinath
Ramachandra Guha
Ramachandra Guha
Historian and cricket writer. Author of A Corner of a Foreign Field, Wickets in the East, Spin and Other Turns, and editor of the Picador Book of Cricket
XI: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, CK Nayudu, Mankad, Kapil Dev, Kirmani, Kumble, Prasanna, Nissar
Arun Lal
Arun Lal
Played 16 Tests and 13 ODIs for India between 1982 and 1989. Currently a cricket commentator
XI: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Hazare, Dhoni, Kapil Dev, Mankad, Lala Amarnath, Kumble, Srinath
Pradeep Magazine
Pradeep Magazine
Has written on cricket for the last three decades for various Indian newspapers. Author of the book Not Quite Cricket. Currently advisor, sports with the Hindustan Times
XI: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Mohinder Amarnath, Mankad, Kapil Dev, Kirmani, Kumble, Srinath, Prasanna
Sanjay Manjrekar
Sanjay Manjrekar
Played 37 Tests and 74 ODIs for India between 1987 and 1996. Now a cricket commentator and presenter for ESPN Star
XI: Sehwag, Gavaskar, Dravid, Tendulkar, Hazare, Mankad, Dhoni, Kapil Dev, Prasanna, Gupte, Srinath
Ayaz Memon
Ayaz Memon
Sportswriter for 30 years. Former editor of Sportsweek and former sports editor of the Independent and the Times of India. Has covered over 100 Tests, more than 250 ODIs, and six World Cups
XI: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Hazare, Mankad, Kapil Dev, Dhoni, Kumble, Zaheer, Nissar
Suresh Menon
Suresh Menon
Former sports editor of the Pioneer and the Indian Express in New Delhi, Gulf News in Dubai, and former editor of the New Indian Express in Chennai. Currently a columnist with publications in India and abroad
XI: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Hazare, Mankad, Kapil Dev, Dhoni, Srinath, Prasanna, Kumble
R Mohan
R Mohan
Resident Editor of the Deccan Chronicle, Chennai. Formerly cricket correspondent of the Hindu and The Sportstar for nearly two decades. Has reported live close to 150 Test matches and more than 300 ODIs, including five World Cups.
XI: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Merchant, Tendulkar, Hazare, Kapil Dev, Dhoni, Mankad, Srinath, Kumble, Prasanna
Vasu Paranjape
Former Mumbai and Baroda player, and former coach of Mumbai and of the National Cricket Academy
XI: Gavaskar, Merchant, Tendulkar, Hazare, MAK Pataudi, Phadkar, Kapil Dev, Mankad, Tamhane, Gupte, Prasanna
Sharda Ugra
Sharda Ugra
Senior editor, Cricinfo. Cricket writer for two decades with Mid-Day, the Hindu and India Today magazine
XI: Gavaskar, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Mankad, Dhoni, Kapil Dev, Kumble, Srinath, Zaheer