December 5, 2011

It's not how you begin...

Players who failed to light up their debuts but went on to shine later in their careers
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Marvan Atapattu
As an opening batsman you can't do much worse than begin your Test career with scores of 0 and 0, 0 and 1, and 0 and 0 (and, reports suggest, even that one run was actually a leg-bye). That was the nightmare start that Sri Lanka's Atapattu endured in three Tests from 1990 to early 1994. It was - perhaps not surprisingly - more than three years before he got another game, when at last he got into double figures. But he did very well after that, finishing a 90-Test career with 5502 runs and 16 centuries, no fewer than six of them doubles.

Shane Warne
In January 1992, when Warne was rather rounder than he is today - Ian Healy commented back then that Warnie's idea of a balanced diet was a cheeseburger in each hand - the great legspinner made an undistinguished Test debut in Sydney, taking one Indian wicket for 150 in 45 overs: his victim was Ravi Shastri, out to what Wisden called "a tired shot" after having amassed 206 in 572 minutes. After no wickets in the next Test, and 0 for 107 in the first innings of his third one, in Colombo in August 1992, Warne had a bowling average of 335.00 when he was handed the ball again in the second innings as Sri Lanka closed in on a probable victory. Suddenly things started to get better: he secured an unlikely win, taking three wickets for no run in 11 deliveries. The rest, as they say, is history.

Len Hutton
England tried out a new opening pair against New Zealand for the first Test against New Zealand at Lord's in 1937. James Parks (the father of the 1960s England wicketkeeper Jim) made 22 and 7, while a young Yorkshireman - he celebrated his 21st birthday on the rest day - made 0 and 1. Only one of them was named for the next Test - and, you've guessed it, it was Hutton who was retained. He scored 100 at Old Trafford, and the following year made 364 against Australia: in all he won 79 caps, and scored nearly 7000 runs. Poor Parks, however, never played another Test.

Viv Richards
One of the most intimidating batsmen of all time, Richards made a less than scintillating start in Tests, managing only 4 and 3 against India in Bangalore in 1974-75, falling in each innings to the whirling legspin of Bhagwat Chandrasekhar. But any thoughts of a weakness against spin were banished in the next Test, in Delhi, where Richards slammed six sixes in an imperious 192 not out to set up an innings victory. That was the first of 24 Test centuries for the "Master Blaster".

Merv Hughes
After taking just one wicket for 123 in his first Test, against India, Hughes was pasted all round the Gabba by Ian Botham in the 1986-87 Ashes opener. After the next Test Merv had a bowling average nudging 50, and hadn't even looked like scoring a run. You'd have got long odds on him achieving the Test double of 1000 runs and 100 wickets, but he turned himself into a serviceable batsman and did just that. And his bowling improved out of sight too: he finished up with 212 Test wickets, most of them celebrated by squeezing a few well-chosen words through that famous bushy moustache in the general direction of the departing batsman. Probably Hughes' greatest sledge came not long after Pakistan's Javed Miandad had labelled him "a fat bus conductor". A few balls later Hughes dismissed him, and charged past, yelling "Tickets please!"

Graham Gooch
On his Test debut against Australia at Edgbaston in 1975, Gooch had a moustache to rival Merv's - and his batting was as productive as Hughes' in his early Tests. Gooch departed for 0 and 0, tickling a couple of catches to the predatory Rod Marsh, and after one more match returned to county cricket for three years to tighten things up. He re-emerged, tightness personified, to kickstart a Test career that ultimately brought him 8900 runs, still the England record.

Michael Holding
We remember Holding now as just about the perfect fast bowler - athletic, graceful, and above all scarily fast. But it wasn't all plain sailing at first: he took 0 for 127 in his debut Test, in Australia in 1975-76, and finished that chastening series - which the Aussies won 5-1 - with just 10 wickets at 61.40, being reduced to tears at one point as things went against him. Things began to look up later in 1976, though, when Holding blew England away with 14 wickets on a slow pitch at The Oval. "Whispering Death" had arrived.

Jeff Thomson
One reason the England tourists Down Under in 1974-75 didn't take much notice of Thomson's pre-series bluster about how much he liked to hurt batsmen was that they knew he had played just one previous Test, against Pakistan in 1972-73, and finished with 0 for 110 in 19 expensive overs. But what Mike Denness and Co. probably didn't know was that Thommo had been nursing a broken foot in that match - he thought he'd better play, in case he never got another chance. The next call duly came in Brisbane two years later, and Thomson shook England up with 6 for 46 in the second innings, then 5 for 93 in Perth in the next Test, both of which Australia won comfortably. By the time he ruled himself out of the series by injuring his shoulder playing tennis, Thommo had taken 33 wickets in four and a half matches, and the Ashes were back in Australian hands. He ended up with 200 Test wickets, exactly 100 of them against England.

Gautam Gambhir
Test stardom - and multi-million IPL contracts - probably seemed a long way off for Gambhir after his first Test for India, against Australia in Mumbai in November 2004, produced scores of 3 and 1 on an admittedly dodgy pitch (India won in three days, bowling Australia out for 93 in their second innings). The selectors stuck by Gambhir, who repaid them by making 96 in the next Test, against South Africa, and 139 against Bangladesh a few weeks later. Despite trouble with injuries, he now has more than 3500 Test runs.

Brad Hogg
Cricket's most famous ex-postman made his Test debut in Delhi in October 1996, replacing Shane Warne, who was recovering from surgery to his hand. Hogg, an unorthodox left-arm spinner, had an undistinguished start: his 17 overs cost 69, although he did claim the wicket of Sourav Ganguly. He didn't play another Test for six and a half years, although he did have a long run in Australia's one-day side. One story has it that Hogg had longed all his career to hear Ian Healy growl from behind the stumps, "Well bowled, Hoggy" ... but bowled so indifferently that it was never actually said.

Saeed Anwar
Given Pakistan's capricious selection policies, the deliciously wristy opener Anwar might never have played again after he bagged a pair in his first Test, against West Indies in Faisalabad in November 1990. As it was, he didn't win another Test cap for more than three years - but made it count when he did, with 169 against New Zealand in only his third match. Anwar ended up with 4052 runs in Tests - and more than double that (8824) in one-day internationals.

Steven Lynch is the editor of the Wisden Guide to International Cricket 2011.

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  • JG2704 on December 7, 2011, 14:05 GMT

    @AlanHarrison on (December 06 2011, 11:30 AM GMT) Re Mike Gatting - I was slightly too young to remember his debut whereas with Stewart , I remember him consistently not doing anything with the bat. Also I thought Stewart started his career off purely as a batsman. Certainly Jack kept wicket on his debut in 1990. I'm not sure when he first kept wicket for England. What I think is significant is that we both agree that if you took away his first 10-20 inns he'd have had a much better average. Also I'm not sure how Vaughan did early in his career. I certainly don't remember him showing anything that would make him at one point become the nr 1 batsman in the world

  • CricketPissek on December 6, 2011, 22:59 GMT

    Time for Steven Lynch to come up with a new XI. "XI Players who are not Sachin Tendulkar." Maybe we'll get some peace and quiet on the comments then :) Jokes aside, Atapattu's opening sequence is legendary but still shocking to see. He'd never be given opportunities like that in a post-1996 Sri Lanka team! And the only reason he was invited back and bat at #3 was because the bearded legend Asanka Gurusinghe quit after clashing with Arjuna Ranatunga. So Marvan was a very lucky man!

  • on December 6, 2011, 19:18 GMT

    To people who're asking why Sachin isn't on the list; I think there are 2 reasons (which could probably cover why Bradman isn't on the list too)

    1. Sachin wasn't an unknown when he entered. He's been famous since he was 14. Even though it took him 14 innings to get his first test hundred, he had hit 4 half-centuries by then, and was averaging 33.62, which isn't that bad. People knew it was just a matter of time. Likewise with Bradman. They were famous even before they played test match cricket.

    2. Probably Steven's only talking about test matches. In ODIs, Sachin did start off with 2 ducks, and he did take 79 ODIs to get his first 100. But even then, in his first 78 ODIs, he hit 17 half-centuries and averaged 32.70, which is good for a no.5-no.6 batsman. SRT's first match as opener was in his 70th ODI.

  • on December 6, 2011, 17:36 GMT

    SACHIN TENDULKAR, in this case, is worth mentioning too. The greatest ODI batsman started his ODI career with two ducks, one against Pakistan and New Zealand each. On his debut match against Pak during 1989-90 series, he scored a ducked and was dropped for the next two matches. Three months later when India toured NZ, he scored a duck against the kiwis once again. It took him 9 matches to score his first fifty and 79 matches(4 years) to score his first century. It would have been very difficult for him to make a comeback, if the competion had been as tough as these days. But during this time sachin had played some important innings in both Tests and ODIs. He scored his first century in ODI against Australia in 1994. Four years after that he was holding the record for most ODI hundreds. Rest is history.

  • CricketMaan on December 6, 2011, 11:47 GMT

    How come this list is missing SRT, shouldnt he be in any cricketing list? ofcourse he made just 16 on debut, didnt he?

  • AlanHarrison on December 6, 2011, 11:30 GMT

    @JG2704: Alec Stewart, while England's second highest ever run scorer in test history, averaged just short of 40 in his test career, which certainly isn't that great, and indeed he didn't have that good a start in test cricket, requiring two years (and about 15 tests) before he got his first test century in 1991 against Sri Lanka. However, I can think of worse examples (e.g., Mike Gatting as previously mentioned needed seven years to get his first test century). One thing which probably made more of a difference to Stewart's final career statistics with the bat was keeping wicket as much as he did. From memory there is a substantial difference between his batting average when he played as a specialist batsman (which is maybe about 45) and his average when designated wicketkeeper (perhaps about 35).

  • karthik12 on December 6, 2011, 7:36 GMT

    2 name don bradman had a poor first test, sachin had ducks in his 1st and 2nd odi and of course his first test was ordinary

  • harshthakor on December 6, 2011, 4:01 GMT

    You have forgotten the great Imran Khan who was not the shadow of himself from till his great burst in Sydney in 1977 when he captured 12 wickets.Infact he was only a batsman who occasionally bowled till then.The 1977 Sydney test gave him the sporadic burst that set up his illustrious career.

    Malcolm Marshall became a superstar only in 1983 and in 1978 was not a shadow of his true self when he toured India.Rohan Kanhai also started his carer as a wicketkeeper and blossomed out into one of the greatest batsmen of all time some years later.

  • Irfanskp on December 5, 2011, 21:03 GMT

    It's not how you begin...Aamir' career- the way he started was remarkable and ended behind the bars!

  • JG2704 on December 5, 2011, 19:08 GMT

    Actually , an England player who springs to mind is Alec Stewart. Maybe not a huge worldwide player. But as an England fan I remember saying to my dad "Why is Stewart being given all these chances - Is it because his dad is the chief?" Then he became a solid tenacious player for the side and I grew to really like the player. I don't know off hand what his test average was in the end but I'm sure it would have been alot higher without such a bad start

  • JG2704 on December 7, 2011, 14:05 GMT

    @AlanHarrison on (December 06 2011, 11:30 AM GMT) Re Mike Gatting - I was slightly too young to remember his debut whereas with Stewart , I remember him consistently not doing anything with the bat. Also I thought Stewart started his career off purely as a batsman. Certainly Jack kept wicket on his debut in 1990. I'm not sure when he first kept wicket for England. What I think is significant is that we both agree that if you took away his first 10-20 inns he'd have had a much better average. Also I'm not sure how Vaughan did early in his career. I certainly don't remember him showing anything that would make him at one point become the nr 1 batsman in the world

  • CricketPissek on December 6, 2011, 22:59 GMT

    Time for Steven Lynch to come up with a new XI. "XI Players who are not Sachin Tendulkar." Maybe we'll get some peace and quiet on the comments then :) Jokes aside, Atapattu's opening sequence is legendary but still shocking to see. He'd never be given opportunities like that in a post-1996 Sri Lanka team! And the only reason he was invited back and bat at #3 was because the bearded legend Asanka Gurusinghe quit after clashing with Arjuna Ranatunga. So Marvan was a very lucky man!

  • on December 6, 2011, 19:18 GMT

    To people who're asking why Sachin isn't on the list; I think there are 2 reasons (which could probably cover why Bradman isn't on the list too)

    1. Sachin wasn't an unknown when he entered. He's been famous since he was 14. Even though it took him 14 innings to get his first test hundred, he had hit 4 half-centuries by then, and was averaging 33.62, which isn't that bad. People knew it was just a matter of time. Likewise with Bradman. They were famous even before they played test match cricket.

    2. Probably Steven's only talking about test matches. In ODIs, Sachin did start off with 2 ducks, and he did take 79 ODIs to get his first 100. But even then, in his first 78 ODIs, he hit 17 half-centuries and averaged 32.70, which is good for a no.5-no.6 batsman. SRT's first match as opener was in his 70th ODI.

  • on December 6, 2011, 17:36 GMT

    SACHIN TENDULKAR, in this case, is worth mentioning too. The greatest ODI batsman started his ODI career with two ducks, one against Pakistan and New Zealand each. On his debut match against Pak during 1989-90 series, he scored a ducked and was dropped for the next two matches. Three months later when India toured NZ, he scored a duck against the kiwis once again. It took him 9 matches to score his first fifty and 79 matches(4 years) to score his first century. It would have been very difficult for him to make a comeback, if the competion had been as tough as these days. But during this time sachin had played some important innings in both Tests and ODIs. He scored his first century in ODI against Australia in 1994. Four years after that he was holding the record for most ODI hundreds. Rest is history.

  • CricketMaan on December 6, 2011, 11:47 GMT

    How come this list is missing SRT, shouldnt he be in any cricketing list? ofcourse he made just 16 on debut, didnt he?

  • AlanHarrison on December 6, 2011, 11:30 GMT

    @JG2704: Alec Stewart, while England's second highest ever run scorer in test history, averaged just short of 40 in his test career, which certainly isn't that great, and indeed he didn't have that good a start in test cricket, requiring two years (and about 15 tests) before he got his first test century in 1991 against Sri Lanka. However, I can think of worse examples (e.g., Mike Gatting as previously mentioned needed seven years to get his first test century). One thing which probably made more of a difference to Stewart's final career statistics with the bat was keeping wicket as much as he did. From memory there is a substantial difference between his batting average when he played as a specialist batsman (which is maybe about 45) and his average when designated wicketkeeper (perhaps about 35).

  • karthik12 on December 6, 2011, 7:36 GMT

    2 name don bradman had a poor first test, sachin had ducks in his 1st and 2nd odi and of course his first test was ordinary

  • harshthakor on December 6, 2011, 4:01 GMT

    You have forgotten the great Imran Khan who was not the shadow of himself from till his great burst in Sydney in 1977 when he captured 12 wickets.Infact he was only a batsman who occasionally bowled till then.The 1977 Sydney test gave him the sporadic burst that set up his illustrious career.

    Malcolm Marshall became a superstar only in 1983 and in 1978 was not a shadow of his true self when he toured India.Rohan Kanhai also started his carer as a wicketkeeper and blossomed out into one of the greatest batsmen of all time some years later.

  • Irfanskp on December 5, 2011, 21:03 GMT

    It's not how you begin...Aamir' career- the way he started was remarkable and ended behind the bars!

  • JG2704 on December 5, 2011, 19:08 GMT

    Actually , an England player who springs to mind is Alec Stewart. Maybe not a huge worldwide player. But as an England fan I remember saying to my dad "Why is Stewart being given all these chances - Is it because his dad is the chief?" Then he became a solid tenacious player for the side and I grew to really like the player. I don't know off hand what his test average was in the end but I'm sure it would have been alot higher without such a bad start

  • JG2704 on December 5, 2011, 19:02 GMT

    This is not meant as any anti Aus bias but I think there are better names which other postees have mentioned than Merv Hughes and Hogg hardly went on to do much.

  • on December 5, 2011, 18:41 GMT

    One such list for ODIs will be great too- and the first name on that will be Sachin Tendulkar. If I am not wrong, his First 3 scores were 0.0.1. Took him 79 innings to score a Century~~ :)

  • Erebus26 on December 5, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    Martin Crowe is worth a mention too. Scores in his first six test innings were 9, 2, DNB, 0,9 and 0. I've heard him say that he was selected for NZ too early and it took him two or three years to feel comfortable playing at test level as part of the NZ side.

  • passionate_cricket_follower on December 5, 2011, 17:39 GMT

    some names which come in mind are:

    1. vvs laxman, and robin singh (odi) from India. laxman had a pretty ordinary test run till that innings of 281. he had a 167 to his name before that, but was no way a regular. robin singh made a comeback at the age of 33 which is rarely heard of.

    2. matt hayden, damien martyn from Australia. hayden and martyn were in and out of the side before early 2000, after which they made history.

    3. hashim amla from South Africa. had a very ordinary start to both tests and odis. never looked the player he is, when he started.

    4. virender sehwag of India. here's another one who never looked the player he is during his initial days. he hardly looked athletic when he debuted.

  • Murtaza. on December 5, 2011, 17:36 GMT

    what abot Grham Gooch and Imran Khan. they started thier career with out any succes. And Attapattu had better technique then the rest of them, only Dravid has same solid technique like him. even not Tendulker, Lara and Ponting.

  • bestbuddy on December 5, 2011, 16:56 GMT

    No Jacques Kallis?? After 16 tests his average was only 25.37 - it would take 95 tests before his average peaked at 58.20

  • Omarrz on December 5, 2011, 15:34 GMT

    I am sure if Asif had been playing, his name would have been in this list as well..

  • AlanHarrison on December 5, 2011, 15:27 GMT

    In addition to names already mentioned, Mike Gatting, whose last test match was the same as Gooch's, also got a duck on his test debut from memory, and actually went seven years in his test career (1977/8-1984/5) before getting a century. Andrew Flintoff got a few runs on his test debut but got a pair in his next match and four years into his test career averaged only about 20 with bat and nearly 50 with the ball. Perhaps Gatting's and Flintoff's final test figures are too mediocre to warrant inclusion in such a list. But Malcolm Marshall was certainly a great and had a pretty unimpressive start to his career on a tour of India: like Holding I remember reading Marshall was also reduced to tears on his debut, although because of being sawn off while batting (thanks to a dodgy appear by Dilip Vengsarkar, which Maco never forgave) rather than his bowling. Ironic given how many batsmen Holding and Marshall must have reduced to tears themselves in subsequent years ...

  • on December 5, 2011, 14:06 GMT

    i am sure that if a similar list is made for one dayers, Sachin's name would come first - 2 ducks in his first 2 matches and his first hundred in his 79th match!!!

  • on December 5, 2011, 13:48 GMT

    Tendulkar? I think he got a 0 in his debut?

  • on December 5, 2011, 13:41 GMT

    Must give credit to the selectors who persevered with these talented players. Cricket must have lost many players who had bad starts and never got opportunities again.

  • on December 5, 2011, 13:41 GMT

    Where is Misbah ul Haq??? He debuted in 2001 and vanished for 6 years to come back in 2007. and it should not be any one's surprise if we include him in this list for the kind of form he has shown since his come back. Test batting average of 80.81 as a captain speeks of this very clearly.

  • on December 5, 2011, 13:07 GMT

    how can u forget imran khan and kapil dev.misbah and ajmal r on their way to join the list

  • NALINWIJ on December 5, 2011, 13:00 GMT

    Ian Chappell, K.Rutherford and R.Herath had shocking starts and became good-great players. I agree that Hogg was only a fill in. Viv Richards in his first world cup match did not bat,bowl or take a catch but that was because Sri Lanka collapsed to lose by 9 wickets and his services were not required.

  • playitstraight on December 5, 2011, 12:53 GMT

    If Attapattu got 6 ducks in his first 6 innings in Tests, then how can he be the batting coach for the Sri Lankans??? That explains why Sri Lankan's batting unit is collapsing/failing all the time. They need someone with better technique, maybe Aravinda De Silva or Arjuna Ranatunga.

  • Biggus on December 5, 2011, 12:13 GMT

    I just can't help myself......."why isn't Sachin Tendulkar in this list ?" (ducks to avoid storm of righteous indignation).

  • rushit1993 on December 5, 2011, 11:57 GMT

    If its also includes odi then sachin should be in it coz he didnt score maiden century till 1994, thats 5 year after making debut.

  • chilled_avenger on December 5, 2011, 11:48 GMT

    @chapathishot Yeah the bodyline was applied specifically for Bradman and I have to say it did prove successful since Bradman averaged 'only' 56.57 over the 4 tests of Bodyline Series with a lone century! That seems quite measly compared to his overall stats,but I'm sure many talented batsman wouldn't mind averaging 56-something over the whole career so I guess that shows Bradman's level of genius!

  • on December 5, 2011, 11:38 GMT

    @Chris Howard - the article says shine later on in their careers, not specifically tests. Brad Hogg went on to become one of Australia's best ODI players..

  • on December 5, 2011, 10:53 GMT

    Saeed Anwar is one of the top class batsman pakistan had, and still we didnt see batsman like him

  • chapathishot on December 5, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    To every ones surprise the greatest batsman of all times had a perceived weakness against short rising deliveries aimed at the body.The thought of Bodyline also came from that.To some extent the statistics also proves that initially such a weakness was there.So it was not some thing limited to Suresh Raina.So the list may include him the next time

  • on December 5, 2011, 10:20 GMT

    I reminds me of Saurav Ganguly who made 3 against WI in his debut ODI ,and didn't get chance in the international level for 4 years

  • on December 5, 2011, 10:14 GMT

    Ah, the foibles of only being able to fit eleven players into an eleven...

  • on December 5, 2011, 9:51 GMT

    are we going to have a same list of ODI player's also

  • Chris_Howard on December 5, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    Hogg? Brad Hogg?! You serious? 7 Tests only. Hardly "went on to shine" as a Test player, finishing with a bowling average of 54 and a batting average of 26. Kallis should definitely be on the list, and Bradman, who was dropped after his first Test making 18 and 1. But Hogg???!!!

  • on December 5, 2011, 9:16 GMT

    Only Atapattu's and Warne's debut scores are worthy enough to be mentioned here! Atapattu's starting figures are amazing!

  • DMPant on December 5, 2011, 8:33 GMT

    And why not Jacques Kallis, who scored 1, 7, 6, 39, 0, 2, 2 in his first seven test innings. In these first five matches he scored only 57 runs with an average 8.14. He managed only 5 wickets in these matches including 3/29 in 2nd innings of his 4th test.

  • Grutness on December 5, 2011, 8:25 GMT

    Though he's hardly in the class of some of these names, Ken Rutherford surely deserves a mention. He was like a startled rabbit on his first tour (in the WI), bagging a pair, then 4, 0, 1, 2, and 5.

  • on December 5, 2011, 7:50 GMT

    if gambhir was mentioned on the list players like shane watson.... must b included as well

  • Codenames on December 5, 2011, 7:45 GMT

    Kallis also had a horrible start, and would definitely be the greatest player on this list

  • on December 5, 2011, 7:44 GMT

    You can't have a list without DON BRADMAN!!!!

  • on December 5, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    wat about anil kumble??? he started on a very poor note.. then was dropped for 2 years...

  • on December 5, 2011, 7:06 GMT

    Hello, no Sachin Tendulkar?? I have read he made 2 ducks against a romping Waqar and co.

  • on December 5, 2011, 6:55 GMT

    Cannot believe you actually missed out Jacques Kallis here - started of with 1, 7, 6, 39, 0, 2, 2; didn't take a wicket until his 3rd test (1/54) and is now the world's best all-rounder...

  • chilled_avenger on December 5, 2011, 6:40 GMT

    Isn't it amazing that Sir Don Bradman failed on his debut as well as in the last test and yet what he did between that was the stuff of the legends! And if you consider ODIs,even Sachin made ducks in his first 2 innings! It could never have given the impression that he'll end up with 18000 runs. Come to think of it,Steve Waugh made scores of 13,5,8 & 0 in his first 4 innings,so he too qualifies to be in this XI.

  • on December 5, 2011, 6:18 GMT

    Where is our own Master Blaster, who scored 2 ducks in his first 2 ODIs??

  • chandau on December 5, 2011, 6:07 GMT

    Having played school cricket against Marvy, it was a given he would play for Sri Lanka: it was a when not if as his talent was obvious. Many said he played so early becoz he happened to be Arjuna's BIL! However he never really went from good to great - a pity as one of the true technically picture perfect batsmen of modern era. On Shane Warne, we Sri lankans still think Aravinda has to be thanked for prolonging SW's :areer coz it was his wicket that caused SL to lose the match from the arms of a famos victory (and the fact that Gurusinghe chose to watch from the non strikers end instead of going for it.)

  • on December 5, 2011, 5:57 GMT

    Let us wait for all the "Why is Mr. X not in the list?" Atapattu's story is remarkable!

  • on December 5, 2011, 5:56 GMT

    Jacques Kallis? He was rubbish to start.

  • PantheraLeo on December 5, 2011, 5:49 GMT

    Marvan's 1 in the middle of those ZEROES should've been a leg bye. I can assure you that. But, what's fascinating is that Marvan got his phantom first test run & Warne announced his arrival in the same innings!

  • johnathonjosephs on December 5, 2011, 5:18 GMT

    Great list, but one problem.. Why is Gambhir's name in the list? Yes he did not do his best in his debut, but that was a minefield of a pitch. He did good in the 2nd test..... Warne and Attapattu are probably the biggest surprises. You can't have a worse start than that

  • unregisteredalien on December 5, 2011, 5:16 GMT

    Anyone else get the impression Gambhir was included just to satisfy the Indian contingent? Not much of a story there!

  • on December 5, 2011, 5:13 GMT

    One name forgotten---like his first test match----IMRAN KHAN.

  • Dashgar on December 5, 2011, 4:54 GMT

    Where's Bradman? 18 and 1 and he got dropped. Can't do much worse that that yet he came back and was the best ever.

  • Kaze on December 5, 2011, 4:35 GMT

    Why is there no Bradman on this list, doesn't 18&1 on Test debut constitute failure ?

  • themagpie on December 5, 2011, 4:34 GMT

    Isn't Don Bradman missing from this list?

  • on December 5, 2011, 4:29 GMT

    How about Sherry? His debut against WI in 1983 did not set the Thames on fire. He came back four years later against NZ and played well for close to a decade. That he was a challenging team member is a different issue.

    Others who spring to mind are DB Vengsarkar and even SRT. It took him 10 tests to hit his first 100...

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  • on December 5, 2011, 4:29 GMT

    How about Sherry? His debut against WI in 1983 did not set the Thames on fire. He came back four years later against NZ and played well for close to a decade. That he was a challenging team member is a different issue.

    Others who spring to mind are DB Vengsarkar and even SRT. It took him 10 tests to hit his first 100...

  • themagpie on December 5, 2011, 4:34 GMT

    Isn't Don Bradman missing from this list?

  • Kaze on December 5, 2011, 4:35 GMT

    Why is there no Bradman on this list, doesn't 18&1 on Test debut constitute failure ?

  • Dashgar on December 5, 2011, 4:54 GMT

    Where's Bradman? 18 and 1 and he got dropped. Can't do much worse that that yet he came back and was the best ever.

  • on December 5, 2011, 5:13 GMT

    One name forgotten---like his first test match----IMRAN KHAN.

  • unregisteredalien on December 5, 2011, 5:16 GMT

    Anyone else get the impression Gambhir was included just to satisfy the Indian contingent? Not much of a story there!

  • johnathonjosephs on December 5, 2011, 5:18 GMT

    Great list, but one problem.. Why is Gambhir's name in the list? Yes he did not do his best in his debut, but that was a minefield of a pitch. He did good in the 2nd test..... Warne and Attapattu are probably the biggest surprises. You can't have a worse start than that

  • PantheraLeo on December 5, 2011, 5:49 GMT

    Marvan's 1 in the middle of those ZEROES should've been a leg bye. I can assure you that. But, what's fascinating is that Marvan got his phantom first test run & Warne announced his arrival in the same innings!

  • on December 5, 2011, 5:56 GMT

    Jacques Kallis? He was rubbish to start.

  • on December 5, 2011, 5:57 GMT

    Let us wait for all the "Why is Mr. X not in the list?" Atapattu's story is remarkable!