Railways v Bengal, Ranji Trophy, Group B, Delhi, 3rd day December 8, 2013

Kartik in Mankading controversy again

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Railways left-arm spinner Murali Kartik has once again become involved in a Mankading controversy, after he ran out the Bengal batsman Sandipan Das for backing up too far at the non-striker's end before the bowler delivered the ball. The incident took place on the third day of the Ranji Trophy match between Railways and Bengal at the Jamia Millia Cricket Ground in Delhi.

The dismissal occurred in the 80th over with Bengal on 120 for 3 in their first innings. As the players were coming back to dressing room, there was a heated exchange between Kartik and Bengal coach, Ashok Malhotra, who questioned the left-arm spinner's ethics and not adhering to 'spirit of the game'.

Kartik, having already warned Das for leaving his crease too early, removed the bails when the batsman did it again. The umpires called for a replay and Das was given out for 19, sparking ugly scenes.

The Bengal bench was disappointed with the dismissal and Ashok Dinda made his displeasure known to Kartik. Malhotra was also involved in a heated altercation with the bowler, questioning Kartik's sportsmanship.

Kartik had been involved in a Mankading row before, when he dismissed Alex Barrow of Somerset in similar fashion while playing for Surrey in August last year, drawing a chorus of boos from the angry spectators.

Malhotra didn't hide his displeasure while talking to the media at the end of the day's play. "On the one side, you have Courtney Walsh and on the other side you have 'Sir' Murali Kartik," Malhotra said. "He is supposed to be a Test player, county player, a commentator and what not. And this is what you do? I don't see him bowling or batting. Probably he is there for 'Mankading' a 19-year-old youngster. What does that little boy learn about the spirit of the game?

"I can understand you are playing one-day cricket, where a batsman tries to steal a single. This is a day's game and he is just an inch out. I am not talking about rules but about 'spirit of the game'."

Malhotra also said that he was expected an official sanction from match referee B Kalyansundaram. "I haven't but I will and I know that," he said.

When asked about the team's response to Kartik when the sides were walking back to the dressing room, Malhotra smiled and said: "I didn't start it. We were clapping and Kartik said something and I reacted. I am not someone who backs off."

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  • RaviNarla on December 12, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    I seriously don't understand the people who question the ethics of a bowler who had run out a batsman backing up too far after he was given a warning or without a warning. First off it is a rule in cricket a batsman can be given out in that fashion. Secondly it is the batsman who was violating here not the bowler. He was trying to steal a run by gaining more yards. This is like a offside in football. That is why we have a rule. You do not want the batsman to take unfair advantage. It is ridiculous that a batsman does a mistake and bowler needs worry about the spirit of the game. Wake up people. Follow the rules.

  • on December 11, 2013, 23:53 GMT

    unsportsman like behaviour from who malhotra.

  • Dhanno on December 10, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    In this age where batsman have all the advantage already, you want to add the illegally getting out of crease to that as well ? Its not legal, its within rules of the games to get such batsman out and thats what K did, after a fair warning. Are we now going to change the rules and say batsman can be half way down the pitch if he likes before a ball is bowled ? Spirit of the game can be upheld from both sides and not one sided affair.

  • nursery_ender on December 10, 2013, 13:16 GMT

    I can't comment on this case without seeing footage - is it available anywhere? However video of the Somerset case shows that Kartik lured Barrow out of his crease by 'dummying' his bowling action - Barrow was in his ground at the point in the bowling action Kartik would normally have released the ball and only started backing up when he had every right to believe the ball had been released. That to me is sharp practice on behalf of the bowler, not the batsman.

  • on December 10, 2013, 6:40 GMT

    "Spirit of Cricket" talks about fair sportsmanship and it cannot be any different for a Bowler as to a Batsman. If taking a start before the bowler takes a delivery stride is with in the spirit of the game then running him out is also with in the spirit of the game. This has been made a scene just because it was 120/3 had it been 290/3 then SPIRIT would have been spirited away. I can understand if a 19 Year Bowler makes a mistake while batting and takes an early start, openers, middle order batsman who know the rights of the bowler - not excusable. I am sure Das would have seen uglier scenes playing in the maidans of Kolkata. On the other side Saint Malhotra should infact take is as a passing moment of experience for Das laugh it off and rather reprimand him for throwing away his wicket for a moment of mischief. I sympathize with you because you cannot laught it off when your middle order batsman does that at 120/3 with 160 runs to go for a first innings lead

  • on December 9, 2013, 18:09 GMT

    Very true, i was expecting many bad mouthing karthik in the comments sections but glad that many are thinking the same way infact more that 50% think its Ok to do it.

  • on December 9, 2013, 17:46 GMT

    Young Sandipan Das as per Mr. Malhotra is 20+ years old, old enough to know that he should not re-try something wrong after he has been warned about it once. The fellow repeated his offense within 15 minutes ! He deserved what he got. If I was WB coach, Das would not be found anywhere around the WB team for at least the rest of this season - he has proved that he has no common sense. If Malhotra wants him to continue playing stupidly, as CAB I would just get rid of Malhotra.

  • on December 9, 2013, 16:47 GMT

    All this can be stopped if the umpires start calling for a short run when they see the batsmen leaving the crease. The umpires should take charge and not wait till the bowler finds it. The fielding side should be allowed to even appeal for a short run as they do for run outs!!!!!

  • on December 9, 2013, 16:25 GMT

    I personally feels that if mankading is wrong and against the spirit of game than bowlers shouldn't get penalize for no ball or wide ball.

  • sparth on December 9, 2013, 16:25 GMT

    People don't argue when a bowler over steps when they ball, yet when a batsmen tries to do something similar, there is a row about it. There is nothing against the spirit of cricket here - rules are rules. Maybe now this 19yr old youngster will learn the rules of cricket.

  • RaviNarla on December 12, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    I seriously don't understand the people who question the ethics of a bowler who had run out a batsman backing up too far after he was given a warning or without a warning. First off it is a rule in cricket a batsman can be given out in that fashion. Secondly it is the batsman who was violating here not the bowler. He was trying to steal a run by gaining more yards. This is like a offside in football. That is why we have a rule. You do not want the batsman to take unfair advantage. It is ridiculous that a batsman does a mistake and bowler needs worry about the spirit of the game. Wake up people. Follow the rules.

  • on December 11, 2013, 23:53 GMT

    unsportsman like behaviour from who malhotra.

  • Dhanno on December 10, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    In this age where batsman have all the advantage already, you want to add the illegally getting out of crease to that as well ? Its not legal, its within rules of the games to get such batsman out and thats what K did, after a fair warning. Are we now going to change the rules and say batsman can be half way down the pitch if he likes before a ball is bowled ? Spirit of the game can be upheld from both sides and not one sided affair.

  • nursery_ender on December 10, 2013, 13:16 GMT

    I can't comment on this case without seeing footage - is it available anywhere? However video of the Somerset case shows that Kartik lured Barrow out of his crease by 'dummying' his bowling action - Barrow was in his ground at the point in the bowling action Kartik would normally have released the ball and only started backing up when he had every right to believe the ball had been released. That to me is sharp practice on behalf of the bowler, not the batsman.

  • on December 10, 2013, 6:40 GMT

    "Spirit of Cricket" talks about fair sportsmanship and it cannot be any different for a Bowler as to a Batsman. If taking a start before the bowler takes a delivery stride is with in the spirit of the game then running him out is also with in the spirit of the game. This has been made a scene just because it was 120/3 had it been 290/3 then SPIRIT would have been spirited away. I can understand if a 19 Year Bowler makes a mistake while batting and takes an early start, openers, middle order batsman who know the rights of the bowler - not excusable. I am sure Das would have seen uglier scenes playing in the maidans of Kolkata. On the other side Saint Malhotra should infact take is as a passing moment of experience for Das laugh it off and rather reprimand him for throwing away his wicket for a moment of mischief. I sympathize with you because you cannot laught it off when your middle order batsman does that at 120/3 with 160 runs to go for a first innings lead

  • on December 9, 2013, 18:09 GMT

    Very true, i was expecting many bad mouthing karthik in the comments sections but glad that many are thinking the same way infact more that 50% think its Ok to do it.

  • on December 9, 2013, 17:46 GMT

    Young Sandipan Das as per Mr. Malhotra is 20+ years old, old enough to know that he should not re-try something wrong after he has been warned about it once. The fellow repeated his offense within 15 minutes ! He deserved what he got. If I was WB coach, Das would not be found anywhere around the WB team for at least the rest of this season - he has proved that he has no common sense. If Malhotra wants him to continue playing stupidly, as CAB I would just get rid of Malhotra.

  • on December 9, 2013, 16:47 GMT

    All this can be stopped if the umpires start calling for a short run when they see the batsmen leaving the crease. The umpires should take charge and not wait till the bowler finds it. The fielding side should be allowed to even appeal for a short run as they do for run outs!!!!!

  • on December 9, 2013, 16:25 GMT

    I personally feels that if mankading is wrong and against the spirit of game than bowlers shouldn't get penalize for no ball or wide ball.

  • sparth on December 9, 2013, 16:25 GMT

    People don't argue when a bowler over steps when they ball, yet when a batsmen tries to do something similar, there is a row about it. There is nothing against the spirit of cricket here - rules are rules. Maybe now this 19yr old youngster will learn the rules of cricket.

  • yoogi on December 9, 2013, 15:06 GMT

    I am glad and pleasantly surprised that no comment has been against karthik, which actually means spectators are more learnt about the game than coaches.

  • dvs105 on December 9, 2013, 9:44 GMT

    Interestingly Saurav Ganguly who is arguably the greatest cricketer to have come out of Bengal in all likelihood would have given Murali Kartik a pat on the shoulder and said well done!

  • dvs105 on December 9, 2013, 9:40 GMT

    so when the nineteen year old plays against Australia at the WACA and he is being sledged by players all round him.. he will walk up to them and say... please dont do this.. it is against the spirit of the game..my coach Ashok Malhotra said that it is against the spirit of the game -- give me a break! You need coaches to make men out of boys and not mice.

  • on December 9, 2013, 9:17 GMT

    That was Mr. Malhotra's contribution as a coach of the Bengal team. If he could not convince his young player to stay in the crease until the ball is delivered, he could at least raise the tempers of the opposition player.

  • on December 9, 2013, 9:09 GMT

    Mr.Malhotra who played for india doesnt even know to tell or explain or teach young cricketers not to leave the crease during the course of bowling.What KArtik did was correct,why should he pardon someone.Let the batsman though he is under 19 or what ever the age ground himself and after the bowl is bowled take a lead to take a run.Strange! instead of the coach teaching the basic rules to his batsman he is wasting time speaking to opposition? how did he become a coach?? weel done kartik.

  • CSKftw on December 9, 2013, 8:43 GMT

    So breaking a rule of the game to gain an unfair advantage is within the spirit of the game whereas following the rules and penalizing the individual after graciously warning him earlier isn't? As if that wasn't enough he then proceeds to make personal attacks on Kartik's integrity as if he did something wrong. The coach should first ask himself if this is the example he wants to set for his players. As for Kartik he did exactly what should have been done.

  • ramli on December 9, 2013, 8:33 GMT

    This has happened before and will happen again too ... Walsh was sportive in 1987 WC but lost the match! If handling the ball is out why not Mankading? Can't the umpires warn the runner about leaving the crease before ball delivery? Why the bowler has to do it all the time? Ashok Malhotra like he did not know how to run singles also seems not to know how to run a team

  • on December 9, 2013, 8:16 GMT

    In my opinion it is (mankading) is perfectly moral. By taking few steps ahead, runner is trying to gain advantage in close run-out situations, allowing it will be unfair to fielding team. Bowler need not warn as by taking few steps ahead runner is the one who is doing against spirit of the game.

  • muzika_tchaikovskogo on December 9, 2013, 7:41 GMT

    Pathetic behaviour by Ashok Malhotra. He would do well to teach the 'little boy' the basics of running between the wickets. Such lack of maturity from such a senior person is shocking.

  • GlobalCricketLover on December 9, 2013, 7:32 GMT

    Strange! instead of the coach teaching the basic rules to his batsman he is wasting time speaking to opposition? how did he become a coach?? How come following a rule be against 'spirit'? then why the hell is the rule there? Nothing wrong in what Karthik did...

  • vaidyar on December 9, 2013, 7:08 GMT

    "What does that little boy learn about the spirit of the game?". He definitely learnt not to sneak in singles like that. Good work Kartik! You rock as always!

  • jimbond on December 9, 2013, 5:46 GMT

    Valuable lesson for the 19 year old. Thank you Murali Karthik for educating the batsman (and also others who hear of this episode). Even if Karthik does only mankading and not batting or bowling, he is contributing to the game of cricket by educating the young and old cricketers. Btw, I personally rate Murali Karthik as better skilled than Ashok Malhotra. Karthik never got too many chances at the national level because of Kumble and the selector's obsession with Harbajan. Malhotra never performed much with the chances he got, and by that time Azharuddin had come and in a span of three tests had put and end to Malhotra's career.

  • sramesh_74 on December 9, 2013, 4:33 GMT

    So..it is ok for a batsman to take advantage and sneak up a couple of yards. Is that ok from the spirit of the game standpoint? Kartik was playing within the rules of the game. He warned the guy and then ran him out the second time. Absolutely fine by the rules.

  • on December 9, 2013, 4:15 GMT

    Kartik Rocks....

  • rohanbala on December 9, 2013, 2:55 GMT

    There is absolutely nothing wrong in what Murali Karthik has done. Why should batsmen alone should have all the "advantages" in the game? The Bengal coach needs to learn the rules before teaching his own boys.

  • RajeshNaik on December 9, 2013, 2:41 GMT

    To hell with the spirit of the game. One has stay within the rules of the game.

  • on December 8, 2013, 21:55 GMT

    I dont know what the little boy learnt from Kartik but he certainly learnt how not to behave from his coach. Does it befit a coach to have confrontations with opposition players and then go to the press with it? He also gave a warning once. He should have learnt after that.

  • on December 8, 2013, 20:06 GMT

    Stupid reactions for Mankading. Bowler shouldn't be entitled to warn before mankading the batsman. Both Ashoks (dinda & Malhotra) should be penalized for their unsportsmanship and not Murali

  • Vivian_Richard on December 8, 2013, 17:51 GMT

    Maybe the coach would do well to understand the rules and make his boys understand the same. Out is out, whether it's one inch or ten. Such a silly observation. As for the Spirit Of The Game goes, I can't see how crying about being given out fairly is with the Spirit. And the "little boy" could learn from Kartik and play the game hard and fair and not rabble rouse instead.

    How you teach cricketers to play in the spirit of the game if they can't play by the rules? The rules are the basic minimum requirement, are they not?

  • on December 8, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    Mankading should be allowed. There should be a warning or two. Then out. This makes the game exciting. Otherwise in India cricket is all about batsmen hitting bowlers on flat tracks. A new rule to run out both batsmen should be allowed too. Why not when you restrict the field? Super bats are there then why not a ball that swings or bounces more? How many batsmen walk away sportingly when they have nicked a ball? Ok can a bowler start running in without declaring over the wicket or around? Can fielders move when close to batsmen? Can you place a fielder behind bowlers arm? Also you have overthrows and penalty for hitting helmets. We need more balance. So karthik was right. Walsh did not run out salim jaffer because that was the first time. Kapildevs run out in SA after warning the batsman 3 times ... Even in test matches batsmen should not leave the crease till the ball leaves the bowlers. 19 yr old shld know it is not legal. Malhotra, why the hurry to run if it is a Ranji ;) game

  • on December 8, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    Awesome work Karthik... Is this the Bengal coach is telling his boys just make a run before the bwler bwls... Karthik warned him before get him out... so no question about who is not in the spirit of the game... a batsman who didn't follow the rule or a bwler who simply followed the rule... my support go with Murali Kathik...

  • on December 8, 2013, 17:09 GMT

    Well done Murali Kartik. Spirit of cricket is not licence to batsman to whatever they please. Batsman stealing a run by running half-way don the pitch before the bowler starts his run-up is spirit of cricket? If that's so, then I don't need to tell you where you can put it!. Nonsense. Well done Kartik!. Kartik had already warned the 19 year old, What was he thinking when repeating the nonsense?

  • on December 8, 2013, 15:59 GMT

    im from bengal & totally support karthik for following the rules of the game! everyone should be like this only!

  • ketaann on December 8, 2013, 10:19 GMT

    if fielder start to move before batman hit the ball then umpire called no-ball becoz they think he disturbs the batsman. So what is wrong with mankaded? It is not against sportmanship specially when warning is given. Well dooe kartik.

  • on December 8, 2013, 9:27 GMT

    It proves how much of a batsman's game cricket is, when people start abusing Kartik for merely doing what any bowler should do. It's the non-striker who is "unethical" for trying to steal a run even before the bowler has completed his delivery. Kartik had the grace to warn Das once, an only then did he actually complete the Mankading. Kartik has always been an outstanding student o the game. One only needs to read his articles and listen to his special comments to see how well he knows the game. He's done nothing wrong!

  • TheNick on December 8, 2013, 9:16 GMT

    So when Batsmen backs up too far before ball is delivered is not against sportsmanship and spirit of game? There is a crease and rule in place for a purpose and bowler has right to run batsman out. Well done Kartik!

  • on December 8, 2013, 9:13 GMT

    Who violated the rule? Bowler or batsman? Should batsman take undue advantage, and cross the crease, yes he has to pay the penalty.

  • vinjoy on December 8, 2013, 8:37 GMT

    I wonder what is wrong with mankanding? Is a batsman given a warning when he is out of crease and the wicket-keeper is about to stump out him? We already see a majority of rules by ICC in favor of batsmen.

    The Bengal coach would better advise their batsmen to follow the basics with bit of common sense by not backing up too far down the crease!

  • arokiavinoth on December 8, 2013, 8:27 GMT

    what is the mistake with Kartik? If there is a rule, you have to follow otherwise Kartik have all the rights to claim the wicket. If it is not, romove this rule otherwise follow it.

    Good work Kartik

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  • arokiavinoth on December 8, 2013, 8:27 GMT

    what is the mistake with Kartik? If there is a rule, you have to follow otherwise Kartik have all the rights to claim the wicket. If it is not, romove this rule otherwise follow it.

    Good work Kartik

  • vinjoy on December 8, 2013, 8:37 GMT

    I wonder what is wrong with mankanding? Is a batsman given a warning when he is out of crease and the wicket-keeper is about to stump out him? We already see a majority of rules by ICC in favor of batsmen.

    The Bengal coach would better advise their batsmen to follow the basics with bit of common sense by not backing up too far down the crease!

  • on December 8, 2013, 9:13 GMT

    Who violated the rule? Bowler or batsman? Should batsman take undue advantage, and cross the crease, yes he has to pay the penalty.

  • TheNick on December 8, 2013, 9:16 GMT

    So when Batsmen backs up too far before ball is delivered is not against sportsmanship and spirit of game? There is a crease and rule in place for a purpose and bowler has right to run batsman out. Well done Kartik!

  • on December 8, 2013, 9:27 GMT

    It proves how much of a batsman's game cricket is, when people start abusing Kartik for merely doing what any bowler should do. It's the non-striker who is "unethical" for trying to steal a run even before the bowler has completed his delivery. Kartik had the grace to warn Das once, an only then did he actually complete the Mankading. Kartik has always been an outstanding student o the game. One only needs to read his articles and listen to his special comments to see how well he knows the game. He's done nothing wrong!

  • ketaann on December 8, 2013, 10:19 GMT

    if fielder start to move before batman hit the ball then umpire called no-ball becoz they think he disturbs the batsman. So what is wrong with mankaded? It is not against sportmanship specially when warning is given. Well dooe kartik.

  • on December 8, 2013, 15:59 GMT

    im from bengal & totally support karthik for following the rules of the game! everyone should be like this only!

  • on December 8, 2013, 17:09 GMT

    Well done Murali Kartik. Spirit of cricket is not licence to batsman to whatever they please. Batsman stealing a run by running half-way don the pitch before the bowler starts his run-up is spirit of cricket? If that's so, then I don't need to tell you where you can put it!. Nonsense. Well done Kartik!. Kartik had already warned the 19 year old, What was he thinking when repeating the nonsense?

  • on December 8, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    Awesome work Karthik... Is this the Bengal coach is telling his boys just make a run before the bwler bwls... Karthik warned him before get him out... so no question about who is not in the spirit of the game... a batsman who didn't follow the rule or a bwler who simply followed the rule... my support go with Murali Kathik...

  • on December 8, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    Mankading should be allowed. There should be a warning or two. Then out. This makes the game exciting. Otherwise in India cricket is all about batsmen hitting bowlers on flat tracks. A new rule to run out both batsmen should be allowed too. Why not when you restrict the field? Super bats are there then why not a ball that swings or bounces more? How many batsmen walk away sportingly when they have nicked a ball? Ok can a bowler start running in without declaring over the wicket or around? Can fielders move when close to batsmen? Can you place a fielder behind bowlers arm? Also you have overthrows and penalty for hitting helmets. We need more balance. So karthik was right. Walsh did not run out salim jaffer because that was the first time. Kapildevs run out in SA after warning the batsman 3 times ... Even in test matches batsmen should not leave the crease till the ball leaves the bowlers. 19 yr old shld know it is not legal. Malhotra, why the hurry to run if it is a Ranji ;) game