Pakistan in South Africa 2013-14 November 16, 2013

Kallis set to make ODI return

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Jacques Kallis is likely to make a return to South Africa's one-day side after an absence of a year and eight months, in the upcoming series against Pakistan in South Africa. Kallis, who had made clear his intention to represent South Africa in the 2015 World Cup, last played an ODI in February 2012 against New Zealand. He was originally due to make a comeback to the ODI team against India, but when that series was curtailed from seven matches to just three, he instead will turn out against Pakistan for his return.

The national selectors have yet to pick the squad but Russell Domingo, South Africa's coach, said Kallis should be "available to play the one-day series against Pakistan." If he is, Kallis would probably be a straight swap for Faf du Plessis, who could be given the series off because of its timing.

Du Plessis will wed his fiancee, Imari Visser, in Cape Town next Saturday, the day after the two-match Twenty20 series he is to captain, ends, and a day before the three-match one-day series begins. Although both matches are in Cape Town, it is unlikely du Plessis will play the first ODI, but with no honeymoon booked as yet, he could return for the next two games. "We're still in talks about my availability," du Plessis said. "I'm not sure how its going to pan out at the moment."

AB de Villiers is one of du Plessis' best men, but will be available to play in the ODI series, although he may be rested from the T20s. Domingo indicated monitoring Villiers' workload as a priority over the next few months because of the heavy burden he carries as ODI captain, being a senior batsman and the regular Test wicket-keeper. "He is definitely going to have a break at some stage. He has [been] playing cricket non-stop since he was about nine-years-old," Domingo said. "He has a lot on his plate so there's every chance he will get one or two T20s off in the not too distant future."

The amount of international cricket means player management is something all teams are forced to consider, and South Africa are no exception. They gave Dale Steyn the first two ODIs in the UAE off to return home and rejuvenate, and allowed Morne Morkel and JP Duminy to return home before Friday's second T20 to rest as well. Rotation of this sort will continue although South Africa will also aim to balance that with consistency in selection as they look ahead to next year's World T20 and the 2015 World Cup.

They believe the groups of players they have in both formats at the moment will probably be the same units they take to those tournaments. The combinations have been sorted, and now it's about making sure they operate as planned, a department where Domingo thinks there is still work to do.

"In T20s, our thought processes with the ball [are] not exactly spot on. Although the bowlers did well, we're still bowling balls to certain fields that we shouldn't be bowling," Domingo said. "Batting-wise, Hashim has just restarted his T20 career and he is a work in progress, although he brings a lot of calmness to the team. And then it's just about our pattern of play and nailing that down properly."

As far as ODI cricket goes, Domingo was pleased with the developments de Villiers made in his captaincy, especially in regards to managing players on the field. The captain himself admitted he has settled in now and is happy with what he sees around him. "We have a lot of depth. We've seen guys like Wayne Parnell coming in and doing well and he is almost coming [in] from the outside so it shows you that there is good depth," de Villiers said. "I am very happy with the group of players we have now. I don't think it will change too much for the World Cup."

South Africa have chosen to retain the winning combination that swept Pakistan 2-0 in the recently concluded T20 series in UAE.

T20 squad: Faf du Plessis (capt.), Hashim Amla, Henry Davids, Quinton de Kock, AB de Villiers, JP Duminy, Imran Tahir, Ryan McLaren, David Miller, Morne Morkel, Wayne Parnell, Aaron Phangiso, Dale Steyn, Lonwabo Tsotsobe, David Wiese.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • Amol_Gh on November 20, 2013, 11:13 GMT

    Nxt_Gen: Centuries don't necessarily make a one player greater than the other just like Ducks don't make a player lesser than the other. They are just positive and negative spikes in the overall steady average of a player. So digging out some anonymous stat comparing Kallis NON-sub-continent centuries to Tendulkar's to prove how former was better batsman than latter, was a bit too much, especially ignoring the more VITAL stats like averages against AUS, the best bowlers of their generation, in and out of AUS. and of course a selection team would choose Kallis over Sachin ...if what they needed was a GENUINE All-rounder, but as a pure batsman there is no doubt whatsoever that they would go for Sachin leaves Kallis behind. (Just check their stats **IN AUS.**)

  • Amol_Gh on November 20, 2013, 10:56 GMT

    It's a shame that even after Tendulkar has retired after setting some massive benchmarks, some anonymous people still opt for pulling him down withOUT even bothering to check his great performances throughout his career AGAINST the greatest bowlers of his era,starting with PAK and then AUS and SA, in or OUT of those bowlers' own home-grounds. AND they also choose to ignore his phenomenal performance in the World-Cups. So such comments should be totally ignored or taken with a fistful of salt. As an opener, Sachin's job was NOT to FINISH a job but to SET a groundwork for it. Anyone who understands cricket knows this. Tendulkar was the greatest Batsman ever and Kallis is the greatest All-Rounder ever. Full-Stop. The reason Kallis is not the greatest batsman ever for me, is because he never had to face his own team's superior bowlers and the great ones that he actually faced, AUS, he did not excel against them. Plus Sachin's aggressive batting makes me put him ahead of Kallis as a batsman

  • r_cricket on November 19, 2013, 16:36 GMT

    @ NXT_Gen : Sachin is from India and hence he obviously played more matches at home but he also scored consistently overseas. you should compare Kallis record in sub continent as these are not friendly conditions for him (or check in Australia).

  • NXT_Gen on November 19, 2013, 10:59 GMT

    @sachin_vvsfan: I know these comments clearly getting out from what the article is about. But let me put it this way, may be the last comment of mine here. In TEST (the best form of Cricket) Kallis did score 38 centuries outside subcontinent comparing to Sachin's only 18. Look, It doesn't say Sachin was poor outside Sub-continent. This comparison is ONLY about two players. I'm here pointing out to what you have replied to my earlier comment. Clearly, along with All-round capabilities(Bowling+Slip) the better captains will always choose Kallis first for any squad.

  • sachin_vvsfan on November 19, 2013, 6:29 GMT

    @kingsland You actually haven't watched him enough. And check his contribution against Pak in all WC matches. I still remember how some pakistani fans belittled his 175 against Aus(which we lost by 3 runs due to other batsman) And whats with rating. Lara , ponting too were out of top 20 at the end of their careers

    @NXT_Gen Flat tracks? then check how he fared in Aus and Eng and compare that to Kallis. Kallis did secure good average by thrashing some mediocre bowling against IND,WI,BAN,ZIm but hasn't done that great in Eng/Aus. Sachin was averaging ~57 after that SA tour but went down hill from there on.

  • NXT_Gen on November 19, 2013, 5:31 GMT

    @kingsland: Lol, you should understand how i said that.. Me too not impressed about calling Sachin a GOD.. Just a player, who played many ODIs and too much matches on flat tracks that didn't supported Pace Bowling.. For me,, It's always Kallis before anyone in cricket. Period!

  • SHER-A-PANJAB on November 19, 2013, 2:29 GMT

    if KAllis give good strength to the side with his bowling and batting ( not easy now ) that will be very good in WC 2015. Otherwise we should call Elgar or ....to build good team.De Kock should be kept in the side permanently .and Smith must be dropped or he should quit himself for DE Kock .so this the continuously playing team until W.C 2015 ;DE Kock ,Amla ,KAllis /Elgar ,AB ,FAF , ,Duminy ,Miller ,Parnell / M.Laren ,Dale, Tahir , Sobe, philander. ,Morkel /Moris

    A

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 19, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    Would be interesting to see Kallis' return to ODI Cricket.

  • Crick_Expert on November 19, 2013, 2:12 GMT

    NEXT-Gen@ You should shame on saying sachin as GOD. He played 25 years what he did, I dont see he even finished any game for india. His rating is 29 and avg is lower than kallis.

  • Crick_Expert on November 19, 2013, 2:06 GMT

    Kallis is great player, and very popular among PAK people . Hope SA and PAK will enjoy good cricket. SA playing with a world uniq team, yes what cricket legand VIV Richard said "PAK can defeat easily any top team, and can be defeated easily by any weak team"

  • Amol_Gh on November 20, 2013, 11:13 GMT

    Nxt_Gen: Centuries don't necessarily make a one player greater than the other just like Ducks don't make a player lesser than the other. They are just positive and negative spikes in the overall steady average of a player. So digging out some anonymous stat comparing Kallis NON-sub-continent centuries to Tendulkar's to prove how former was better batsman than latter, was a bit too much, especially ignoring the more VITAL stats like averages against AUS, the best bowlers of their generation, in and out of AUS. and of course a selection team would choose Kallis over Sachin ...if what they needed was a GENUINE All-rounder, but as a pure batsman there is no doubt whatsoever that they would go for Sachin leaves Kallis behind. (Just check their stats **IN AUS.**)

  • Amol_Gh on November 20, 2013, 10:56 GMT

    It's a shame that even after Tendulkar has retired after setting some massive benchmarks, some anonymous people still opt for pulling him down withOUT even bothering to check his great performances throughout his career AGAINST the greatest bowlers of his era,starting with PAK and then AUS and SA, in or OUT of those bowlers' own home-grounds. AND they also choose to ignore his phenomenal performance in the World-Cups. So such comments should be totally ignored or taken with a fistful of salt. As an opener, Sachin's job was NOT to FINISH a job but to SET a groundwork for it. Anyone who understands cricket knows this. Tendulkar was the greatest Batsman ever and Kallis is the greatest All-Rounder ever. Full-Stop. The reason Kallis is not the greatest batsman ever for me, is because he never had to face his own team's superior bowlers and the great ones that he actually faced, AUS, he did not excel against them. Plus Sachin's aggressive batting makes me put him ahead of Kallis as a batsman

  • r_cricket on November 19, 2013, 16:36 GMT

    @ NXT_Gen : Sachin is from India and hence he obviously played more matches at home but he also scored consistently overseas. you should compare Kallis record in sub continent as these are not friendly conditions for him (or check in Australia).

  • NXT_Gen on November 19, 2013, 10:59 GMT

    @sachin_vvsfan: I know these comments clearly getting out from what the article is about. But let me put it this way, may be the last comment of mine here. In TEST (the best form of Cricket) Kallis did score 38 centuries outside subcontinent comparing to Sachin's only 18. Look, It doesn't say Sachin was poor outside Sub-continent. This comparison is ONLY about two players. I'm here pointing out to what you have replied to my earlier comment. Clearly, along with All-round capabilities(Bowling+Slip) the better captains will always choose Kallis first for any squad.

  • sachin_vvsfan on November 19, 2013, 6:29 GMT

    @kingsland You actually haven't watched him enough. And check his contribution against Pak in all WC matches. I still remember how some pakistani fans belittled his 175 against Aus(which we lost by 3 runs due to other batsman) And whats with rating. Lara , ponting too were out of top 20 at the end of their careers

    @NXT_Gen Flat tracks? then check how he fared in Aus and Eng and compare that to Kallis. Kallis did secure good average by thrashing some mediocre bowling against IND,WI,BAN,ZIm but hasn't done that great in Eng/Aus. Sachin was averaging ~57 after that SA tour but went down hill from there on.

  • NXT_Gen on November 19, 2013, 5:31 GMT

    @kingsland: Lol, you should understand how i said that.. Me too not impressed about calling Sachin a GOD.. Just a player, who played many ODIs and too much matches on flat tracks that didn't supported Pace Bowling.. For me,, It's always Kallis before anyone in cricket. Period!

  • SHER-A-PANJAB on November 19, 2013, 2:29 GMT

    if KAllis give good strength to the side with his bowling and batting ( not easy now ) that will be very good in WC 2015. Otherwise we should call Elgar or ....to build good team.De Kock should be kept in the side permanently .and Smith must be dropped or he should quit himself for DE Kock .so this the continuously playing team until W.C 2015 ;DE Kock ,Amla ,KAllis /Elgar ,AB ,FAF , ,Duminy ,Miller ,Parnell / M.Laren ,Dale, Tahir , Sobe, philander. ,Morkel /Moris

    A

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 19, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    Would be interesting to see Kallis' return to ODI Cricket.

  • Crick_Expert on November 19, 2013, 2:12 GMT

    NEXT-Gen@ You should shame on saying sachin as GOD. He played 25 years what he did, I dont see he even finished any game for india. His rating is 29 and avg is lower than kallis.

  • Crick_Expert on November 19, 2013, 2:06 GMT

    Kallis is great player, and very popular among PAK people . Hope SA and PAK will enjoy good cricket. SA playing with a world uniq team, yes what cricket legand VIV Richard said "PAK can defeat easily any top team, and can be defeated easily by any weak team"

  • on November 18, 2013, 23:14 GMT

    Even tho' he's never actually said he's not available for bi-lateral one day cricket much less retired from it, I'm pleased to see that Kallis is to recommit to the format as his record in it speaks for itself. Tendulkar has recently (and rightly so) been described as the greatest BATSMAN of the modern era but the title of the greatest CRICKETER of the same period simply has to be bestowed on Kallis as two more years - possibly - of international cricket will not only see him retire - probably - at the same age (40) as SRT but (and with the ODI run aggregate apart) a very close second on the all time list for most test runs, centuries, and with eventually I suspect very similar averages as you would expect JKs to worsen towards the very end of his career. However and while SRTs final run total in tests is almost certainly out of his reach the only other thing that will separate them in terms of greatness in that format will be the actual no.of matches played.

  • on November 18, 2013, 20:33 GMT

    my xi- DECOCK, AMLA, DUPLESSIS, KALLIS, AB,DUMINY, MILLER, MCLAREN, STEYN, MORKEL,THAIR

  • on November 18, 2013, 14:12 GMT

    workload - we've played hardly any test cricket this year at all???

  • NXT_Gen on November 18, 2013, 12:03 GMT

    @Shehan_W: Kallis never chased or played for his own records.. But GOD Sachin did. At first he delayed his retirement because of Kallis was around scoring big hundreds during 2011-2013. As you say, if Kallis chasing records his best chance is on TEST not in ODI. He would've given up ODIs then. Actually, why SA needs him back is South Africa batting was flawing as poor as it can be. they only managed to score above 250 few times in 12 months. They always wanted him stability at the top where Amla, AB de and Faf can play around. Idea of Bringing Kallis back from SA management is right. Lets see how he progresses after 20 months break.. Hope he plays well in ODIs and TESTs.

  • yoohoo on November 18, 2013, 10:31 GMT

    Sorry, not a good idea. Kallis is 38 now, and he is already showing signs of ageing (no test century in last one year). He will be 40 by the 2015 WC, and a liability to the team. Why go back to him now at this age, after 2yrs of being out of the team? They should find new players and groom them for WC. There is still time.

  • sachin_vvsfan on November 18, 2013, 6:39 GMT

    @Joe-car I can assure that advertisers did milk the money in Sachin's farewell. Unfortunately not all Players(not even Indian players) get that kind of farewell. Only he has that kind of market (Yeah he may be down in his last 3 years of career but at his prime destroyed many great bowlers and kallis style was like dravid not joy to watch but plays important role in the team.

  • timtom on November 18, 2013, 5:33 GMT

    SA`s best chance to win ODI WC was 2007. I have seen all those matches. They were a good team (as always).They all owe to this man for NOT winning the WC. Though ended among the highest run getters, his inability to accelerate inning in crucial matches cost them the cup. Nothing much has changed since. Kallis should keep himself fit to break Sachin`s record in tests(100`s and runs). All other attempts might end up as repeat of 2007.

  • Poholiyadda on November 18, 2013, 5:26 GMT

    He is a great cricketer and I don't think he has anything to achieve other than improving his career strike rate in ODIs. It seems like this great cricketer is now chasing personal records, isn't he? With this strong SA batting line up there is no requirement to play Kallis in the 2015 WC. Instead of the old man SA should look to give that place to a youngster such as Miller, Ingram or Levi who can score quickly in the ODIs which will give them a better chance to win the global trophy.

  • NXT_Gen on November 18, 2013, 4:07 GMT

    As looking at WC 2015, SA mustn't omit Morkel and Philander due to their bouncy tracks in Aus. I really think this is SA's best chance to win a trophy after Aus current ODI form is poor after late 2010s. I won't mind playing India in non sub continental pitches where they usually struggle with short pitch and fast bowling. So SA should be able to play very certain squad to win the trophy. Hope Gary will be still there as batting consultant for WC.

    2015 WC: de Cock, Amla, Kallis, AB de(c), Faf, Miller, Mclaren/Parnell, Philander, Steyn, Morkel, Tahir/Peterson. 12th Man: Duminy.

    2014 T20: de Cock, Davids, AB de, Faf(c), Duminy. Miller, Parnell, Mclaren, Steyn, Morkel, Tahir.

  • on November 18, 2013, 0:25 GMT

    Kallis is one of the all time greats in the history of cricket. His choice for playing wc is welcome and that should be a great farewell to his career. He has nothing to achieve in all forms of cricket. I still feel he should reach 300 wickets in both Test and ODI and score atleast 50centuries in Test cricket.

  • Joe-car on November 17, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    @AKS286__Trying to turn Miller into an opening bat is bit like trying to turn a Super Car into a Grand Tourer. It will be fun at first but once the novelty wears off(which, let's be honest, it will) you won't forgive yourself for the obviously grave mistake that you made.

  • Hashimbaig on November 17, 2013, 13:09 GMT

    Pakistan team will be under serious pressure because they lost the last series against them in odi and t20 series. Pakistan team need some good players. Youngsters shouldnt not play because they not perform but some youngster have to be in the team someone like Umar Akmal and Ahmed shehzad but they need some good allrounders specially Abdul Razzaq because he hasnt play a one day since 2011. Look at the South african team they got the great Jacques Kallis back so Pakistan need to get Razzaq back because he are very good against them. Look at my teams

    South Africa team in odi: Graeme Smith, Hashim Amla, Jacques Kallis, Ab de villiers (c), Faf du plessis, Jp Duminy, David Miller, Robin Peterson, Dale steyn, Morne Morkel and Lonwabo Tsotsobe. (This is what i call a team)

    Pakistan team should be this team in the odi series: Ahmed Shehzad, Mohammad Hafeez, Sohaib Maqsood, Misbah ul haq, Umar Akmal, Shahid afridi, Abdul Razzaq, Sohail Tanvir, Abdur Rehman, Saeed Ajmal and Junaid Khan.

  • AKS286 on November 17, 2013, 13:07 GMT

    OMG I typed Elgar in place of Amla.

  • AKS286 on November 17, 2013, 13:05 GMT

    Kallis return in ODI gives me some doubt. If The Great Kallis will play WC then his selection is good but if don't then kindly prepare a WC team from now. Now about his role If he play like an all- rounder then atleast he must bowl 6-8 overs. I want WC trophy as an farewell gift for Kallis. Punter & Sachin made it at last only one legend is missing and he is Great Kallis. David Miller as an opener is a good choice. Smith, Miller, Elgar, Kallis, AB, FaF, McLaren/JP, Morris,Petersen, Steyn, Morkel.

  • 2nd_Slip on November 17, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    de Kock, Davids, Amla, de Villiers, Duminy, Miller, Parnell, Morkel, Steyn, Lospy, Tahir is the best ODI line up. Then swaping Duminy for Faf makes the best T20 line up. As legendary as Greame and JH Kallis are I think its about time they moved on now and stick to test cricket where they are the best in the would in their respective roles at the moment.

  • Gareth_Bain on November 17, 2013, 11:28 GMT

    The Proteas can and should do without Smith, Kallis&Steyn! ODI XI: Alviro(c), Amla, Duminy, ABdV, Bavuma, Tsolekile(wk), Philander, Gqamane, Morkel, Tsotsobe, Phangiso

    Did you see Gqamane's 2013 season? He was dropped by the Warriors because he was just decimated game after game. Disappointing, but yes. Bavuma averaged 24 and made no fifties this season. You're picking him in the ODI side because of his (admittedly spectacular) 2011 SS season. Really?

  • Gareth_Bain on November 17, 2013, 11:24 GMT

    Agree with a lot of what @SurlyCynic said, except that Faf was showing signs of improvement since being moved up the order to number 3. Even so, I'd say that him being replaced by say Rossouw (just please not Henry Davids - over 30, consistently ordinary over a long time at domestic level. Why???) would be an absolutely fair change. I also agree that Leie (and perhaps von Berg) should be the spinners being groomed for the future, and not Harmer. Even as a Warriors supporter, I don't understand what they see in him potential-wise. Another RobbieP/Boje defensive spinner and decent batsman is not what we need.

    Kallis was one of the greatest players of all time, but he needs to realise when his time is up, and not tarnish his record the way, e.g. Tendulkar has. He'll be holding up the development of younger players by playing now. Let him continue in the test matches and use the one-day side to develop for the future.

  • NixNixon on November 17, 2013, 10:48 GMT

    @ZFC Outkast , that is the worst SA team that i have seen in my life. tsolekile, bavuma, gqmane, phangiso, alviro are all guys who either have not played international cricket at all or who have not yet proved themselves at internetional level. but you see them as our best team?? The fact that you are leaving steyn out says it all.

  • loki897 on November 17, 2013, 10:02 GMT

    I think Jacques Kallis is a pure match winner at the top of the order. To alll those people who think he soo defensive to lose matches for South Afroca, watch his innings in the IPL. If he gets going (more often than not), the run rate will be at 5 runs a over. However, i don't think his bowling should straight as the 5th bowling option. If the SA management, are happy with his bowling as the 5th option, so be it, but if they still prefer McLaren (who is in great form) so be it. He is good enough for his batting alone.

    XI (if Kallis isn't allrounder): Smith/De Kock, Amla, Kallis, AB De Villers, JP Duminy, David Miller, R McLaren, D Steyn, V Philander, M Morkel, I Tahir

    XI (If Kallis is allrounder): Smith/De Kock, Amla, Kallis, AB De Villers, JP Duminy, Faf du Plessis, David Miller, D Steyn, M Morkel, V Philander/R McLaren, I Tahir.

    I also think that the idea of Kallis opening is great but kinda of hard to see that happening. If Philander have variations and yorker then he is in.

  • on November 17, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    The Alltime Best Allrounder

  • Night.angel on November 17, 2013, 9:32 GMT

    @blinkagain, I am an ardent fan of Kallis. But I never know that his stats would be so mediocre against Eng and Aus, arguably the best bowling line up along with SA itself, until you point it out. I didn't believe you to be honest until I checked it myself in Statsguru.I was rather shocked. Now I have to admit that he have surged his bat avg against mediocre Indian bowling line up and other poor bowlers . Its whooping 75 against India.This can happen sometimes. Even ponting avg is @26 in India, doen't mean he is a poor player. But whatever it is, he is king kallis in our hearts. . Long live the king

  • Joe-car on November 17, 2013, 9:29 GMT

    @The-Love__Jealous over what exactly, dear sir/madam?

  • on November 17, 2013, 9:27 GMT

    he is the best one day player after A B deviliers moize

  • The-love on November 17, 2013, 9:05 GMT

    @Joe-car -> Jealousy at it's best....can't do much except enjoying your comment dude..

  • Joe-car on November 17, 2013, 8:43 GMT

    @NXT_Gen___I agree with you, AB often bats far too low in T20 and ODI's. He should bat at 3 at worst in T20 and 4 at worst in ODI's- if Kallis is playing. This is actually the biggest mistake Bangalore made all season in the 2013 edition. Your best bat should bat in the top 3 in T20 and top 4 in ODI's. @Newlandsfaithful__hahahahahaha- re. Kallis' send-of against WI. Must say, it was a bit cringe worthy how much of a farce Tendulkar's send-off was. Boy did the advertizers milk it, an advertizer's wet dream it must have been. Oh, and did everyone hear how every shot Tendulkar hit was 'great', 'magnificent', 'superb', etc? In fact, I implore you to find/point out any superlative that wasn't used to describe each and every shot of his last knock.

  • SamWintson92 on November 17, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    Great news ! I want to see Graeme Smith both ODIs & T20Is like tests. Kallis should also try to make world twenty 2014 & quit T20Is after that.

  • ZCFOutkast on November 17, 2013, 8:17 GMT

    The Proteas can and should do without Smith, Kallis&Steyn! ODI XI: Alviro(c), Amla, Duminy, ABdV, Bavuma, Tsolekile(wk), Philander, Gqamane, Morkel, Tsotsobe, Phangiso

  • indiasucksgobd on November 17, 2013, 8:17 GMT

    I agree with Joe.south africa have a very fragile mindset and during pressure matches such as knockouts it shows. I was there when they collapsed against nz in bd 2011.

  • AltafPatel on November 17, 2013, 7:26 GMT

    de Kock has excellent start of career with both bat and wicket keeping. He must not be axed for Smith, instead should have other player to replace for Smith, selectors might be knowing about that and surely they will be doing the same. Even Smith should come at No. 3 to keep de Kock maintain his rhythm with bat. The inform trio d Kock, McLarren and Parnell are on prime form and still any of them will have to seat out due to inclusion of Kallis and Smith. Its required that Kallis immediately announce retirement from ODIs and T20s to make room for new comers, putting behind wish to be part of WC 15 winner, as this is best time to choose and play new comers.

  • lukiboy on November 17, 2013, 6:56 GMT

    @SurlyCynic agree completely about Eddie Leie, good attacking spinner who can actually turn the ball, definitely the future SA spinner after Tahir is gone

  • on November 17, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    Wellcome back king kallis, trully is a world class batsman Not too behind form sachin, pointing and great Lara in Odis and test knowing he had 3-4 more years in cricketing world he could be on the top Shouldn't have wasted 2 years shouldn't have.

  • blinkagain on November 17, 2013, 4:58 GMT

    Moreover, King kallis avg's only 30's against Aus and Eng both in test and odi's. I can't see why oldie kallis can make a difference in otherwise mediocre stats of SA's appearance in major tournament. So joe's argument stands.

  • blinkagain on November 17, 2013, 4:54 GMT

    @Greatest_game, I think what Joe believes is a no-brainier. Quite apparently there is a big difference between test and odi's. It test player's temperament in tense and pressure situations. That's why 'c' tag well adorned on the Southafrican team. Because they can't win in those conditions! Moreover, 'High percentage of world's best players' are not good enough to win a major tournament yet. I can't see why that can change. I hope, I don't need to reiterate . Thanks

  • Greatest_Game on November 16, 2013, 23:40 GMT

    @ joe232 believes that "ambition of kallis to win a worldcup is a far-fetched dream. I can't see them winning any major tournaments, and we all know what could be that reason.."

    And if South Africa do win, joe 232, are you going to have the courage to show up here and admit you were wrong? SA's chances of winning are as good as any other team, and better than most. And, we all now what that reason is - the same reason SA is #1 in tests - a high percentage of the world's best cricket players.

  • chechong0114 on November 16, 2013, 22:41 GMT

    Dear ESPN cricinfo, Thank u for taking the time to post that great ad that u did on the website for the last 2 T20 matches of the PAK, CSA series this kind of thing is what the sport of cricket needs a bigger, bolder and more aggressive style. Stuff like this catches the eye of the fans of this website and peaks interest. I thought it was excellent of u to take the initiative and I hope that u will do more of it to broadcast future series in such a bold way in the coming future, once again thank u.

  • Lets_Bash_Indians on November 16, 2013, 22:34 GMT

    If SA really Considering their chance for WC 2015, Kallis Shall Play Only ODI,cuz he's Gonna be The key For them in WC. He Must get Retired From TEST cricket, By looking at his Past tests, the age is certainly coming in way.Retiring from test cricket will gets him bit comfortable & to focus on ODIs,in which SA is behind.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on November 16, 2013, 20:32 GMT

    SA ODI team will be going backwards if young de kock gets dropped for Smith. Smith struggles to accelerate the run rate. De Kock is a naturally attacking batsman and with AB in the covers field SA team looks so much better.

    I would also like to reiterate a point Surlycinic makes which is very valid. SA for the first time in many many years has a spin bowler that actually takes wickets. In this last T20 it is Tahir who can be accredited for the breakthrough of 2 successive wickets. Why should be we persist with 'holding spin' bowlers like Petersen and Phansingo who are cannon fodder for any quality sub continent batsman.

    I also have to agree with Kepler Wessels that AB should Captain the T20 team too. This backwards mentality of SA selectors that each team in each format should be captained by a different captain and have different players playing is utter nonsense. Get your best 11 on the pitch - simple as that.

  • Newlandsfaithful on November 16, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    I have always been a fan of Jacques, but I find it unthinkeable that he can simply step into the national side without having proved his form in any form of competitive cricket. He didn't threaten Pakistan in any way during the recent series and looked completely out of depth. As far as I'm concerned, his long lay off and constant unavailability have brought a premature end to his otherwise glittering career. It is over. He can't read the flight of the ball anymore. Time to call up the West Indies to lose dreadfully so they can give him a glittering send-off.

  • ketaann on November 16, 2013, 17:13 GMT

    it will be nice to see smith and kallis back, in fact both should also play t20i.

  • SurlyCynic on November 16, 2013, 16:08 GMT

    I agree, Smith should stick to tests. He's never been the best opener in ODIs and struggles to clear the boundary - unlike De Kock who has been superb and is just what we need as an opener (and as a young player in an aging team).

    Would also quite like to see the ODI team without Faf as he has been struggling and averaging in the 20s for a long time. I like Parnell - sometimes expensive but he bowls at the death, can also swing the ball and take wickets, and is a good attacking batsman who made a century for his province recently.

    Tahir adds a lot as a spinner who can actually take wickets. Peterson and Phangiso just bowl tight straight ones, if the conditions don't suit Tahir at least Peterson can bat unlike Phangiso. But the next attacking spinner for SA should be Eddie Leie - leg spinner with a googly, has looked good in the provincial games I've watched him in.

  • NXT_Gen on November 16, 2013, 14:44 GMT

    Why Smith again??? SA shouldn't experiment with Smith again. He is clearly failing nowadays even he knows that. Look how brilliantly and aggressively de Cock is playing at the top.. WC 15 is not far away, SA must stick to a confident squad as soon as possible and must play all the matches with adequate bench. Can't keep on changing each and every time they play. As all know, they are in very critical stage to win a ICC trophy in 15 years.. It really makes me wonder how a management isn't able to pick a very good ODI squad when they even pulled out an extra-ordinary world beating Test Side. And mainly, i think du Plessis is tactically a good skipper than AB de. And latter should be optimized well in both ODIs and T20s. Its really bad to let him come way too down in both formats. And De cock will make it easier for him if he plays as wicket-keeping opener. I know coach and administrators are very well skilled than me. But minding these won't affect them, i guess..

  • Hummingbird0 on November 16, 2013, 14:34 GMT

    I think SA will win the coming series without any fuss as we all know how brittle the pakistan line up is. However, ambition of kallis to win a worldcup is a far-fetched dream. I can't see them winning any major tournaments, and we all know what could be that reason..

  • on November 16, 2013, 14:29 GMT

    Well! that's wonderful news of Kallis come back. One of the heaviest all time all rounder in cricket. He surely enhances the team moral.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on November 16, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    1. Q de Kock 2. Amla 3. Duminy 4. J Kallis 5. AB de Villers 6. D.Miller 7. McClaren 8. Morkel/Philander 9. Tsostobe 10. Steyn 11. Tahir

    Great Team for ODIs.

    Smith is past it for bot ODIs and T20.

    Welcome back King Kallis. The greatest allrounder of the modern era.

  • Abbas67 on November 16, 2013, 13:44 GMT

    South Africa are going really good here for the World cup 2015 - The perfect XI should be - Amla Smith Duminy Kallis deVilliers(c) Miller Botha McLaren Steyn Morkel Tahir ... Reserves : DeKock duPlessis Philander Peterson Morris

  • on November 16, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    they have bunch of 20 25 player available all time.In batting they have Alma,Smith,Duminy,Du plesis, ,Ingram, miller,alviro Peterson , henry Davids, behardien then they also have good keeper batsman in allDeVilliers and De knock.they have all rounders like McLaren ,kallis and albie morkel. they have good bowlers in steyn , morkel, philander, Parnell, tsotsobe , robin Peterson, tahir, pangiso, Botha. so they have a very stable side.

  • on November 16, 2013, 12:01 GMT

    3-0 in odi and 2-0 in t-20's will be final score line.I Don't know what happened to Pakistan batting Crop.They are producing world class bowlers but as far as batsmanship is concern ,there is heavy need of improvement.India is facing same problem in bowling department.People are saying that Pakistan is batting on bowling friendly pitches. But the thing is they are too negative in there batting approach that makes every pitch to look like south African pitch.They must learn from Indian batsman's how to murder bowlers.kohli ,dhoni,dhawan they use to make each and every bowler so dwarf because of their aggression.

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  • on November 16, 2013, 12:01 GMT

    3-0 in odi and 2-0 in t-20's will be final score line.I Don't know what happened to Pakistan batting Crop.They are producing world class bowlers but as far as batsmanship is concern ,there is heavy need of improvement.India is facing same problem in bowling department.People are saying that Pakistan is batting on bowling friendly pitches. But the thing is they are too negative in there batting approach that makes every pitch to look like south African pitch.They must learn from Indian batsman's how to murder bowlers.kohli ,dhoni,dhawan they use to make each and every bowler so dwarf because of their aggression.

  • on November 16, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    they have bunch of 20 25 player available all time.In batting they have Alma,Smith,Duminy,Du plesis, ,Ingram, miller,alviro Peterson , henry Davids, behardien then they also have good keeper batsman in allDeVilliers and De knock.they have all rounders like McLaren ,kallis and albie morkel. they have good bowlers in steyn , morkel, philander, Parnell, tsotsobe , robin Peterson, tahir, pangiso, Botha. so they have a very stable side.

  • Abbas67 on November 16, 2013, 13:44 GMT

    South Africa are going really good here for the World cup 2015 - The perfect XI should be - Amla Smith Duminy Kallis deVilliers(c) Miller Botha McLaren Steyn Morkel Tahir ... Reserves : DeKock duPlessis Philander Peterson Morris

  • TommytuckerSaffa on November 16, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    1. Q de Kock 2. Amla 3. Duminy 4. J Kallis 5. AB de Villers 6. D.Miller 7. McClaren 8. Morkel/Philander 9. Tsostobe 10. Steyn 11. Tahir

    Great Team for ODIs.

    Smith is past it for bot ODIs and T20.

    Welcome back King Kallis. The greatest allrounder of the modern era.

  • on November 16, 2013, 14:29 GMT

    Well! that's wonderful news of Kallis come back. One of the heaviest all time all rounder in cricket. He surely enhances the team moral.

  • Hummingbird0 on November 16, 2013, 14:34 GMT

    I think SA will win the coming series without any fuss as we all know how brittle the pakistan line up is. However, ambition of kallis to win a worldcup is a far-fetched dream. I can't see them winning any major tournaments, and we all know what could be that reason..

  • NXT_Gen on November 16, 2013, 14:44 GMT

    Why Smith again??? SA shouldn't experiment with Smith again. He is clearly failing nowadays even he knows that. Look how brilliantly and aggressively de Cock is playing at the top.. WC 15 is not far away, SA must stick to a confident squad as soon as possible and must play all the matches with adequate bench. Can't keep on changing each and every time they play. As all know, they are in very critical stage to win a ICC trophy in 15 years.. It really makes me wonder how a management isn't able to pick a very good ODI squad when they even pulled out an extra-ordinary world beating Test Side. And mainly, i think du Plessis is tactically a good skipper than AB de. And latter should be optimized well in both ODIs and T20s. Its really bad to let him come way too down in both formats. And De cock will make it easier for him if he plays as wicket-keeping opener. I know coach and administrators are very well skilled than me. But minding these won't affect them, i guess..

  • SurlyCynic on November 16, 2013, 16:08 GMT

    I agree, Smith should stick to tests. He's never been the best opener in ODIs and struggles to clear the boundary - unlike De Kock who has been superb and is just what we need as an opener (and as a young player in an aging team).

    Would also quite like to see the ODI team without Faf as he has been struggling and averaging in the 20s for a long time. I like Parnell - sometimes expensive but he bowls at the death, can also swing the ball and take wickets, and is a good attacking batsman who made a century for his province recently.

    Tahir adds a lot as a spinner who can actually take wickets. Peterson and Phangiso just bowl tight straight ones, if the conditions don't suit Tahir at least Peterson can bat unlike Phangiso. But the next attacking spinner for SA should be Eddie Leie - leg spinner with a googly, has looked good in the provincial games I've watched him in.

  • ketaann on November 16, 2013, 17:13 GMT

    it will be nice to see smith and kallis back, in fact both should also play t20i.

  • Newlandsfaithful on November 16, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    I have always been a fan of Jacques, but I find it unthinkeable that he can simply step into the national side without having proved his form in any form of competitive cricket. He didn't threaten Pakistan in any way during the recent series and looked completely out of depth. As far as I'm concerned, his long lay off and constant unavailability have brought a premature end to his otherwise glittering career. It is over. He can't read the flight of the ball anymore. Time to call up the West Indies to lose dreadfully so they can give him a glittering send-off.