Sri Lanka v South Africa, 2nd ODI, Pallekele July 9, 2014

South Africa face the Kallis question

Accommodation for a great player like Jacques Kallis should be made with careful consideration and South Africa cannot get carried away with sentiment
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End of line? Jacques Kallis ODI utility is in focus © Associated Press

When the questions first began about when Jacques Kallis' international career would end, they were prompted by a short-ball assault. In the summer of 2010, Kallis was attacked by a barrage from Pat Cummins in Johannesburg and for the first time, Kallis appeared to cower.

Cummins had Kallis ducking uncertainly, leaving a periscope behind. He had Kallis taking evasive action against missiles aimed at his throat and head. He had Kallis thinking more in the 19 deliveries he spent at the crease then than he had in years. Then he had Kallis dismissed.

The over-analysis then was premature but the seed had been planted. Some feared Kallis' reaction times were slowing; others that his desire was diminishing. Their flames were stoked when Kallis recorded the only pair of his career in the Test after that, against Sri Lanka in Durban.

But Kallis was not done. He scored a double ton in Cape Town - the second of his career - and centuries in New Zealand, England and Australia in the 12 months that followed. Those innings were Kallis' way of making one thing clear: he would leave on his own terms.

After injury concerns in four out of five Test series between March 2012 and March 2013 and a lean run against Pakistan in which he scored one half-century in nine innings, Kallis decided he'd had enough. He opted to sign off against India and for good measure scored a century in his final Test innings. But his recent ODI form will fling that into the spotlight again.

Kallis has contributed just one run in the two matches on the current tour of Sri Lanka. That would not have stood out as sorely if he performed in some other way but Kallis has not bowled at all, neither has had much to do in the field. And it's not as though South Africa haven't needed him to.

He has been installed in what is regarded the prime spot in the batting line-up, which is also where he is most comfortable - at No.3. He has twice had to come in with South Africa under pressure and he has twice failed to assist in easing that. Most concerning bit is that he has been outfoxed by his opponents.

In Colombo, he played all around an Ajantha Mendis carrom ball. In Kandy, he was bounced out by Malinga. The second dismissal can draw haunting parallels with what happened four years ago, when Cummins peppered Kallis.

The Cummins' incident is also not the only comparison that can be drawn. There are the niggles and the effect that has on his ability to bowl. Kallis was ruled out of the warm-up match on this tour as a precaution because he hurt his upper back in training. In the build-up to the first match the main concern was over how much - not if, if AB de Villiers is to be believed - Kallis would be able to bowl.

It has since transpired that he would not bowl at all. A team source revealed Kallis experienced discomfort when bowling in the practice session ahead of the second ODI. Subsequently, de Villiers has confirmed Kallis has been picked as a batsman only so far, which is why he could not step in when Dale Steyn went off the field injured.

"I was desperate to use him but he is just not ready yet. It could put him back a month or two if we use him too early," de Villiers said. "That was the risk that we came into the game with. We knew he will only bat in the first and the second ODI."

De Villiers remains hopeful that Kallis will be able to contribute with the ball soon, especially because South Africa need him to. "Hopefully in the third he will be ready again. We are different team if he can bowl a few overs."

South Africa already know that from the effect Kallis has had on their Test team, both when he is not there and when he cannot bowl. Kallis had a stiff neck which ruled him out of the third Test against New Zealand in Wellington in March 2012. South Africa had to alter the composition of their team to make up for his absence and left out the spinner, Imran Tahir, for a quick bowler and an additional batsman. They could not bowl New Zealand out and drew. Kallis could not bowl for some parts in the Test against England at Leeds in 2012. South Africa drew that match after a Kevin Pietersen blitzkrieg.

Those occasions could be dismissed as one-offs because South Africa always knew Kallis would be back for the next Test. Of course now he won't be.

But his commitment to the one-day side remains undeterred as he eyes the 2015 World Cup and de Villiers seems to have transferred the security South Africa placed in Kallis the Test player to Kallis the ODI player. "He has played enough cricket and been through enough bad patches in his life to know how to get through it," de Villiers said. "He is hitting the ball really well in the nets. He got out in an unlucky way tonight. Those balls goes for four more often than not but unfortunately for him, it did not come off."

Graeme Smith said similar things when Kallis had the leanest series of his career against Pakistan in the UAE last November. Two series later Kallis retired and cited a loss of enthusiasm, albeit a small one, to keep performing at the highest level.

The signs are all there that the same thing is happening in fifty-over cricket. Even before Kallis' Test retirement he did not come across as first in the queue when it came to putting on coloured clothing. To manage his Test load, he did not play ODI cricket between March 2012 and November 2013, a period of 20 months. Understandable.

But on the one occasion when there was a chance for Kallis to turn out for South Africa in ODIs without it interfering with his Test commitment, he gave it a miss. Last June, Kallis was a such certainty in South Africa's Champions Trophy squad that a few days before the outfit was unveiled convener of selectors Andrew Hudson told journalists Kallis would travel to England. In the time between that and the squad announcement, Kallis contacted then coach Gary Kirsten and asked to be left out of the tournament for personal reasons. South Africa's plans went awry and they lost in the semi-finals.

Kallis recommitted to the ODI set-up shortly afterwards and was included in home series against Pakistan and India. Both series were three matches long and Kallis played two. Workload was again the main concern.

Apparently that is not going to be the case in the lead-up to the 2015 World Cup. Both Russell Domingo and Kallis himself have repeatedly said Kallis will play in most of the matches South Africa feature in before the World Cup. That will include the current Sri Lanka series, matches against Zimbabwe, Australia, New Zealand and West Indies. That should give Kallis enough time to prepare properly for the one prize he wants to complete his CV.

South Africa are just two matches in on their journey to the World Cup, so it is far too early to be making overarching assessments but the Kallis experiment is not looking promising. Nevermind that he has only managed one run and not much else, he is keeping a player of the calibre of Faf du Plessis - whose ODI numbers do not reveal his potential in the format - out of the XI and causing South Africa to constantly revise their strategy.

Accommodation for a great player like Kallis should be made with careful consideration. South Africa's think-tank cannot be carried away by sentiment and that may mean they will have to acknowledge what Cummins hinted at four years ago. Kallis will be no less a legend for it but he may not have the opportunity to add to his legacy.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • on July 12, 2014, 8:26 GMT

    I agree with many comments here, Kallis should've retired from all the shorter formats of the game - despite the enjoyment, fun and success he has had in his IPL career, and continued on his Test and First class(county, too) career. However, I can see where he is coming from, he wants to play the ODI and t20 competitions because it is less strain on the body, shorter games, and honestly its a bit more fun sometimes(albeit less rewarding than test success), so I hope he plays well in ODIs and SA give him more chances so that his retirement plan is not a failure, but if he doesn't perform consistently - and it's looking that way, SA will have no choice - but he knows that. Good Luck KK.

  • 2nd_Slip on July 11, 2014, 13:20 GMT

    Kallis is an undisputed legend and all of us Proteas fans like him but, as i have said before, he made the wrong decision by retiring from test cricket and carrying on playing limited overs cricket because it is quite clear that the Proteas Test team need him more than the ODI and T20 teams!!

  • stormy16 on July 11, 2014, 12:13 GMT

    Tough one this and even as a great Kallis admirer, there are some issues here. Firstly he cannot bowl which sort of means one needs to compare Kallis the batter against Faf and co but the most worrying thing would be Kallis not playing test cricket. I think you lose some of the your focus which could lead to loss of form. However, for SA the Kallis issue is greater than the next game and the key issue is do they want him for the WC and if they so then he must play till he is fit to bowl. You cannot assess Kallis from the bench or till he bowls and for that he must play and I dont beleive 2 games are enough to make a call on this giant of the game.

  • on July 11, 2014, 10:32 GMT

    Kallis should have stepped down in ODIs instead of test cricket where he could have still scored few more hundreds, it was an extremely bad decision by Kallis and SA cricket administrators.

  • yogicoolboy on July 11, 2014, 9:51 GMT

    He is too Good a player to be stepping down

  • on July 11, 2014, 9:41 GMT

    Kallis's workload should be managed & shouldn't be given more than 2 games per series & his quota for this series is over

  • BellCurve on July 11, 2014, 8:36 GMT

    I hope Kallis stick with the plan and hang around for the WC. It's good to have him around. Shiv Chanderpaul is in the form of his life and he is more than a year older than Kallis.

  • cricket_slcsupport on July 11, 2014, 8:28 GMT

    Can someone pass the message to Mahela Jayawardena pls ?

  • Marcel_Ci on July 11, 2014, 8:21 GMT

    kallis is nowhere close to sangakara in terms of scoring in different formats & the pace of scoring runs..... sanga can make SL win next world cup easily which is not the case with kallis. he should drop himself to have a little hope remain for SA to win WC.

  • Pavinasen on July 11, 2014, 7:27 GMT

    I have the utmost respect for Kallis and his cricketing abilities,but he should now not think about personal glory but what's good for the team & country.He looks all sorts out of form and should quit and not harbour any aspiration of making SA world cup winners.Please leave on a good nd ote and don't be remembered as a selfish and going for personal glory

  • on July 12, 2014, 8:26 GMT

    I agree with many comments here, Kallis should've retired from all the shorter formats of the game - despite the enjoyment, fun and success he has had in his IPL career, and continued on his Test and First class(county, too) career. However, I can see where he is coming from, he wants to play the ODI and t20 competitions because it is less strain on the body, shorter games, and honestly its a bit more fun sometimes(albeit less rewarding than test success), so I hope he plays well in ODIs and SA give him more chances so that his retirement plan is not a failure, but if he doesn't perform consistently - and it's looking that way, SA will have no choice - but he knows that. Good Luck KK.

  • 2nd_Slip on July 11, 2014, 13:20 GMT

    Kallis is an undisputed legend and all of us Proteas fans like him but, as i have said before, he made the wrong decision by retiring from test cricket and carrying on playing limited overs cricket because it is quite clear that the Proteas Test team need him more than the ODI and T20 teams!!

  • stormy16 on July 11, 2014, 12:13 GMT

    Tough one this and even as a great Kallis admirer, there are some issues here. Firstly he cannot bowl which sort of means one needs to compare Kallis the batter against Faf and co but the most worrying thing would be Kallis not playing test cricket. I think you lose some of the your focus which could lead to loss of form. However, for SA the Kallis issue is greater than the next game and the key issue is do they want him for the WC and if they so then he must play till he is fit to bowl. You cannot assess Kallis from the bench or till he bowls and for that he must play and I dont beleive 2 games are enough to make a call on this giant of the game.

  • on July 11, 2014, 10:32 GMT

    Kallis should have stepped down in ODIs instead of test cricket where he could have still scored few more hundreds, it was an extremely bad decision by Kallis and SA cricket administrators.

  • yogicoolboy on July 11, 2014, 9:51 GMT

    He is too Good a player to be stepping down

  • on July 11, 2014, 9:41 GMT

    Kallis's workload should be managed & shouldn't be given more than 2 games per series & his quota for this series is over

  • BellCurve on July 11, 2014, 8:36 GMT

    I hope Kallis stick with the plan and hang around for the WC. It's good to have him around. Shiv Chanderpaul is in the form of his life and he is more than a year older than Kallis.

  • cricket_slcsupport on July 11, 2014, 8:28 GMT

    Can someone pass the message to Mahela Jayawardena pls ?

  • Marcel_Ci on July 11, 2014, 8:21 GMT

    kallis is nowhere close to sangakara in terms of scoring in different formats & the pace of scoring runs..... sanga can make SL win next world cup easily which is not the case with kallis. he should drop himself to have a little hope remain for SA to win WC.

  • Pavinasen on July 11, 2014, 7:27 GMT

    I have the utmost respect for Kallis and his cricketing abilities,but he should now not think about personal glory but what's good for the team & country.He looks all sorts out of form and should quit and not harbour any aspiration of making SA world cup winners.Please leave on a good nd ote and don't be remembered as a selfish and going for personal glory

  • on July 11, 2014, 7:19 GMT

    It is up to the player to realize whether he should sit out when you are out of form instead of forcing the selectors to make that decision. Take a cue from young Chandimal

  • Greatest_Game on July 11, 2014, 7:11 GMT

    Kallis did NOT decide to stop playing ODI's. After Kirsten became coach & AB captain, in Jan 2012 Kallis played the 1st 2 ODIs of their leadership, scoring 72 (run out) as SA won by 258 runs, & 37 as SA won by 5 wickets. SA scraped home by 4 runs (D/L method) in the 3rd after, as Firdose Moonda wrote, "Jacques Kallis has been rested." In an article titled "Selection Decisions Reveal Long-term Plans" she wrote "Not so long ago, a South African side would have been incomplete without ... Jacques Kallis" as she detailed Kirsten's experimental juggling of SA's ODI players. Kallis was rested for the next 2 matches - SA lost.

    Despite averaging 77.43 over the last 2 years as SA won 24 of 34 ODIs (W/L 2.4), Kallis played 2 more games, then was "rested" for 21 months. SA won 20 of 41 matches - W/L 1.1.

    A man averaging 77.43 was "involuntarily rested," from a team with a 2.4 win/loss ratio. The team's ratio dropped to 1.1. Now he's expected to come back & instantly win everything for them.

  • Kaka13 on July 11, 2014, 6:59 GMT

    I was surprised when Kallis took retirement from Test Cricket and continued in One Day cricket. It should be other way around, h should have retire from one dayers and continue in Test Cricket. I am die hard fan of Kallis but you have to face the reality.

  • Marcel_Ci on July 11, 2014, 5:03 GMT

    kallis should step down soon... i don't think he even fits WC squad of SA. there r many better & young players in SA team for WC. also he has poor record in Aus/NZ & more poorer record in sub continent for current series. If SA wants any hope to win WC next year then kallis should drop himself on the basis of stats, past performances & age catching up factors.

  • 9ST9 on July 11, 2014, 4:08 GMT

    I remember back in 2011 there was a similar debate after Kallis made his first Test pair. The very next game he plundered 200. Never underestimate him - he could be destructive in the 3rd ODI.

  • SLSup on July 11, 2014, 3:48 GMT

    Let's see: SA wins the first ODI by a bigger margin than they lost the second ODI and I don't remember Kallis scoring ANY in that game. He gets out for 1 in the 2nd ODI and? He was not the reason SA lost. In fact, there is never a single reason to lose a game - or win one. Let's suppose Kallis plays the 3rd ODI and SL wins it. If he scores (say) a decent 40 no one will talk about it. If he gets out without scoring 10 then perhaps the ONLY narrative will be SA lost the series because they persisted with "dead weight". Then, there is the scenario where Kallis may not play in 3rd ODI and SA wins the series and that would, in part, be used by some to mean it was because Kallis was dropped!

  • crzcric on July 11, 2014, 3:11 GMT

    What a great player.One of the greatest genuine all rounder in the world.He is way better than sachin tendulkar in batting.and a very good fast bowler too.He deserve to be in a world cup team.hope he will be back in form and able to see in WC 2015.There is no doubt he is the greatest player in past two decades.

  • BokkeForever on July 11, 2014, 2:32 GMT

    I saw Allan Donald, another of my all time heroes, go one season too long - it was terrible to watch a once world class champion bowler get smashed all over the park in Australia. Pls Kallis don't make the same mistake.

  • poms_have_short_memories on July 11, 2014, 2:00 GMT

    Not too many batsmen are comfortable with balls directed at their throat, even the great Viv Richards could come unstuck against those sort of balls and by memory he was the best player of short pitched bowling I ever saw.

  • on July 10, 2014, 23:54 GMT

    he returned to the team after so many months without playing any international cricket. so he just needs time out there. age is not a barrier when it comes to him. im so certain that he will find form soon. its not so far away. we all know how he plays. if he wants to be aggressive he can be aggressive, when the team is falling apart he can hold one end. he should be playing till the worldcup and even further if hes fit and willing to play. and im not sure why he hasnt balled yet in this series. he bowls well and hes the perfect allrounder to slot in the team. so he needs international match practice and when he gets going no one will b able to stop him scoring. may god bless u and guide u the greatest cricketer ever. we want to see u more and more. #proteafire

  • on July 10, 2014, 23:35 GMT

    Only Kallis know's when the time to quit , because his "body" will say "its over" . The West Indies at present struggling with the same issue with two players. GAYLE and CHANDERPAUL , Both has been so good to WI just like Kallis is to SA. It will be a sad day when they all go .

  • on July 10, 2014, 21:08 GMT

    I don't know why did kallis retire from the tests when he was just 5 short to Tendulkar's 51 tons with 34 lesser tests.. if he called it then.. what makes him think that he could represent SA for ODI. . which is not his piece of cake for more than 2 years now. . if he would have played tests then.. he would have passed Tendulkar's record with lesser tests played. . but Kallis doors to the ODI for you are shut for years now.. save your legacy before it gets killed..

  • on July 10, 2014, 21:02 GMT

    I have enjoyed J Kallis for his whole SA career and when people ask who the all time greats of the game are, he will defiantly be on my list. However like all super stars it becomes about them and not about the team. Only Aus. seems to have to balls to tell them to hit the road. I love you JK, but you have proved over the last 12 months that you don't give a dam about SA so SA should send you packing my man.

  • on July 10, 2014, 20:58 GMT

    I still don't believe he retired from tests on 46 tons.. just 5 less to Sachin with 34 less tests played.. aged 36 only.. now he is 37 and he wishes to play ODI which has not been his piece of cake for more than 2 years now.. if he really wished A class CV he should have played a few more tests and he would have passed Tendulkar... yes I m an Indian and I worship Sachin. .but this remains a fact.. kallis if u called it up for tests then playing ODI is really meaning less because now ur replacements have been found... present AMLA can be as good as a Kallis anytime in ODI'S they need stroke makers and aggressors and kallis can never be the one.. harsh words but Bye bye Kallis... your legacy is in your hands save it.. before it ends..

  • on July 10, 2014, 19:33 GMT

    We do not mind. Kallis was a great cricketer. All good things come to an end. If CSA cannot identify that it is time for Kallis to hang his gloves then so be it. SL has one less batsman and a bowler to content with during this tour.

  • ADARSH100 on July 10, 2014, 19:12 GMT

    Kallis has been poor recently. But Kallis must be given chance for atleast 3-5 games. He is looking for a place in 2015 WC. I wonder why he has been rarely used as a bowler despite being an All-rounder. He can be asked to bowl more than 5 overs if he is fit. That can be really useful in Australia. He has the caliber to get wickets if he fails to score. If he is not fit to bowl few tight overs also, his position in playing 11 will be certainly a concern.

  • on July 10, 2014, 18:57 GMT

    Kallis is one of the greatest cricketers ever, but his time may be up. SA could play him for another series or two and see if he's still got it. If he can't perform, I would say they should drop him. You can't go into a world cup with an XI which is not the best the team can come up with. Kallis was an invaluable member of his team for most of his career, but he may no longer be that effective anymore.

  • on July 10, 2014, 18:14 GMT

    he need to play for south Africa...this legend hav to lift the world cup...he ll score more runs n following matches

  • on July 10, 2014, 17:47 GMT

    Kallis doesn't have the best record in NZ/Aus, so his place in the side should be CONSIDERED, but he is still the best option for SA due to his experience. When it comes to World Cups, experience trumps form

  • on July 10, 2014, 17:34 GMT

    In the last 5 ODI's he hasn't scored well, but the 10 prior to that he scored 5 50's. He deserves a few more games to find his form.

  • rizwan1981 on July 10, 2014, 17:26 GMT

    Kallis should be dropped in favour of Faf - Its similar to TENDULKA's last days - SACHIN's last ODI century resulted in a defeat for India because Tendulkar consumed a lot of deliveries in pursuit of his 100 international centuries.

    Kallis may want to retire with world cup glory - but if there is a better player in the squad , the great man should be asked to step down.

  • CricketChat on July 10, 2014, 16:41 GMT

    I hope Kallis himself realizes that his international days are over and retires at the end of this series. He just doesn't look the part any more. Even his IPL team dropped him after some lacklustre performances in this year IPL. Hopefully, he will be spared of the ignominy of being dropped at this stage of his career. All good things must come to end.

  • Kavum on July 10, 2014, 15:52 GMT

    Past glories are indeed relevant only if you can add lustre to them by current form and performance. Continued failure only tarnishes those golden memories and blemishes a hitherto spotless reputation. Kallis is and always has been a class act. Just hope that he has the class (and the good sense) to walk away with that repute intact; when talk of his retirement is greeted with the question of "why?" and not "when?". Even his IPL team did not let him play but regarded him more as a mentor and senior player-adviser. It appears that this hankering to play on until the 2015 CWC is affecting many senior greats. I hope all of them do themselves proud and their countries justice by taking the correct decision.

  • Bansam on July 10, 2014, 15:27 GMT

    ECB should listen to Wasim and others

  • AltafPatel on July 10, 2014, 13:27 GMT

    He is blocking man in form duPlessis. In last 9 matches, Kallis scored 130 averaging 14. He should leave behind his wish to be part of WC 15 for the sake of the team and nation. In recent IPL season, when Kallis left himself out following poor form, KKR won all 9 remaining matches there by winning the title. Now one will wonder if he declares this series his last.

  • tripple-Digits on July 10, 2014, 13:18 GMT

    seems like the writing is on the wall ... Kallis has played some good innings' in his career and me think he left the game when he retired from test cricket. I personally think he has played the best and is still pretty good to continue playing. At age 37 and living and playing the dream, he can call it quits for SA and play IPL . He has served South Africa very well indeed but the selectors and captain should learn to part with loyal servants - these professionals know that their career is short but for the talented like JHK its much longer. Get some young blood in so that we can get excited instead of us having to call for the heads of our falling stars. Our national players can continue to play franchise, club and provincial cricket - nothing wrong with that if you still want to play, but for peace sake. We need young blood. (not saying he is too old - he is just not playing..)

  • on July 10, 2014, 12:10 GMT

    Its time for Kallis to realize that his age is not on his side.Odi cricket is for young energetic guys. Time to retire and give others a chance.

  • on July 10, 2014, 11:18 GMT

    @John Welsford. Yes Kallis is still a match winner. Rest assured SA will not be 'letting' him play if they did not think he was worth it. They are known for their harshness and lack of sentiment- Ntini is the perfect example. Fact remains Kallis is still the best ODI player in the side, and his experience is so crucial to the side. He is not in a bad patch yet, just a couple of poor performances, and as long as he comes back (like he has for 2 decades) he will be fine. All hail King Kallis!

  • on July 10, 2014, 11:04 GMT

    Aged legs Kallis please accept, performance is only consideration not the past glory

  • on July 10, 2014, 9:52 GMT

    Oh come on rezmata...it has only been 2 games since he scored those 100s, he was going well in the first game until he gave his wicket away and he couldn't handle Malinga in the second game.

    He has scored around 370 runs in his last 5 games and he averages 60 in his last 10 games and you question his place in the team??? You are a hard one to please

  • on July 10, 2014, 9:27 GMT

    There is no doubt that Kallis has lost his edge and no longer constitutes much of a threat for opposing sides. He must be dropped. I don't feel that much sympathy for him since it was not that long ago he was unavailable for the Proteas, but still managed to play in the IPL. Now he can't even secure a place in his IPL team, but the Protea selectors must somehow make room for him (based on what performance?) so he can play in the next World Cup. The reality is that the Proteas need genuine match winners who will give 100%, not just someone wishing to complete a CV. Is Kallis still a match winner? No.

  • Abbas67 on July 10, 2014, 9:27 GMT

    Couple of matches cannot decide what he served for almost 2 decades, let him settle down, The wc is in Australia, which is a far better place to bat on for Kallis, he needs supports of his fans instead of criticism !

  • SICHO on July 10, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    Well it was the same Firdose who said Kallis should hang his boots after he bagged a pair in Durban, and he scored a double afterwards. The main concern is JP, he isn't scoring runs whatsoever. Quinton is young and it'll take him some time to get used to SC conditions, he's good enough. He seems to be struggling reading Malinga'as action. He'll get used to it, coz he's good enough

  • Micky.Panda on July 10, 2014, 8:44 GMT

    Is Kallis really a proven match winner for ODI? Maybe a match saver on difficult pitches. His ODI strike rate is 72 odd. That is rather slow, and on a good pitch your side can lose if you stay in too long and do not get on with it. As a bowler he concedes runs slightly faster than he scores with a bat (80+ runs per 100 balls). O.K. batting average better than bowling average. So his main value is to stay in when there is a danger the whole side could be bowled out before getting to 50 overs. Maybe I simplify too much, however for me, a great test all-rounder, but much less value for the short form of the game where strike rate starts to matter much more. Pick him for the difficult pitches only.

  • real26_03 on July 10, 2014, 8:15 GMT

    Seriously, only after two ODI's you want to bench him? Damn you guys are impatient! Can you imagine how tough this side will be to beat once Kallis starts performing?

  • on July 10, 2014, 8:01 GMT

    Kallis in form along with Amla, de Villiers and the rest (yes, the other batsmen need to score too, not like yesterday), and we have an unbeatable team. The only way for him to get back in form is to be there to get the opportunity to do so. Stick with him, he's a bit older, but he's still Kallis.

  • on July 10, 2014, 7:51 GMT

    2 failures and you want to bench a proven matchwinner??? He is not the type who would hang around just for the sake of it. The competitive juices in Jaques are still flowing. Give him a few more matches and you will see what I mean.

  • on July 10, 2014, 7:37 GMT

    I agree you can't judge a batsmen by 2 short balls getting him out , plus that innings with Cummins , well he took a 6 for so most of the SA team struggled against him. Kallis is the last of the truly great players and he alone should be allowed to call it a day on his own terms , his situation is a little similar to Ponting's as you don't want to see these great players struggle and scratch for runs , but at the same time they have earned the right to retire when they choose to from the great service they have given their countries. From a Aussie your the best allrounder ever! Better than Sobers.

  • TJP1000 on July 10, 2014, 6:31 GMT

    Completely agree with @desiboy454. Once Kallis is fit to bowl 4-5 overs they should bring FAF in for Philander. Duminy is actually one of our better bowlers in the sub-continent and should be our only spinner in conditions like Australia, SA, NZ and England. I would therefore replace Tahir with Parnell for the world-cup next year. That way we would have 6 bowlers and bat up to 9 (Parnell or even Philander). Kallis is a different player when fully fit.

  • Basil777 on July 10, 2014, 6:15 GMT

    Yes ; we can begin to question Kallis inclusion in the team l however the other Proteas batsman were just poor yesterday; not reaching double figures and throwing their wickets away unlike Kallis whom bowlers focus and bowls good balls at him. The other batsmen loose thier wickets to silly balls.

  • dunger.bob on July 10, 2014, 5:11 GMT

    The saddest possible ending to any great players career is to hang on too long and play your last few matches looking aged, tired and past it. I hope that doesn't happen to Jacques and deep down in his own gut he'll know whether time is up or not. .. I think the ball is in his court.

  • rezmata on July 10, 2014, 4:16 GMT

    An even bigger issue is Quinton De Knock.... has he performed well at all after that streak of centuries?

  • Sinhaya on July 10, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    Kallis going at number 6 would be the best.

  • SLSup on July 10, 2014, 2:38 GMT

    bundybear55: I doubt if Kallis will play in next ODI. He doesn't have to. It's best he sits it out and let the narrative play it out and that's what SA selectors may do. There's enough time from now through WC15 to cement the SA side. Kallis will be playing in AUS : ) As he should.

    I don't get the point of associating what happened with Cummins with Kalli's dismissal here. It was not an entirely a poor shot if it had connected well! A six I reckon. It wasn't like Malinga bowled an UNPLAYABLE ball and Kallis struggled to fend it to only hole out (as this article makes it out to be). To look at Kallis record over decades to say he now has issues with short balls is quite ridiculous!

  • bundybear55 on July 9, 2014, 21:45 GMT

    Question a champion and it will come back and bite you..! Put your house on Kallis making a big score or picking up a swag of wickets in the next match....

  • desiboy454 on July 9, 2014, 20:40 GMT

    I agree with Faf definetly being in the playing XI, but to an extent it is SA fault for wanting to much.. They are playing bowling all rounders at 7 onwards. If kallis is in this team, he needs to bowl 4 overs atleast and have JP bowl 5 -6 overs. This will allow a longer batting line up, with FAF back in it. and SA bowlers are exceptional with Steyn, Morkel, Mclaren/Philander. I dont think they have the worry of their prime bowlers going for runs. It happens, but not to often. So my Xi would be: 1. De Kock 2. Amla 3. Kallis 4. ABD 5. Faf 6. JP 7. Miller 8. Ryan Mclaren 9. Steyn 10. Morkel 11. Tahir... With Kallis & JP making the 5th bowler. This allows SA batting some breathing.

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  • desiboy454 on July 9, 2014, 20:40 GMT

    I agree with Faf definetly being in the playing XI, but to an extent it is SA fault for wanting to much.. They are playing bowling all rounders at 7 onwards. If kallis is in this team, he needs to bowl 4 overs atleast and have JP bowl 5 -6 overs. This will allow a longer batting line up, with FAF back in it. and SA bowlers are exceptional with Steyn, Morkel, Mclaren/Philander. I dont think they have the worry of their prime bowlers going for runs. It happens, but not to often. So my Xi would be: 1. De Kock 2. Amla 3. Kallis 4. ABD 5. Faf 6. JP 7. Miller 8. Ryan Mclaren 9. Steyn 10. Morkel 11. Tahir... With Kallis & JP making the 5th bowler. This allows SA batting some breathing.

  • bundybear55 on July 9, 2014, 21:45 GMT

    Question a champion and it will come back and bite you..! Put your house on Kallis making a big score or picking up a swag of wickets in the next match....

  • SLSup on July 10, 2014, 2:38 GMT

    bundybear55: I doubt if Kallis will play in next ODI. He doesn't have to. It's best he sits it out and let the narrative play it out and that's what SA selectors may do. There's enough time from now through WC15 to cement the SA side. Kallis will be playing in AUS : ) As he should.

    I don't get the point of associating what happened with Cummins with Kalli's dismissal here. It was not an entirely a poor shot if it had connected well! A six I reckon. It wasn't like Malinga bowled an UNPLAYABLE ball and Kallis struggled to fend it to only hole out (as this article makes it out to be). To look at Kallis record over decades to say he now has issues with short balls is quite ridiculous!

  • Sinhaya on July 10, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    Kallis going at number 6 would be the best.

  • rezmata on July 10, 2014, 4:16 GMT

    An even bigger issue is Quinton De Knock.... has he performed well at all after that streak of centuries?

  • dunger.bob on July 10, 2014, 5:11 GMT

    The saddest possible ending to any great players career is to hang on too long and play your last few matches looking aged, tired and past it. I hope that doesn't happen to Jacques and deep down in his own gut he'll know whether time is up or not. .. I think the ball is in his court.

  • Basil777 on July 10, 2014, 6:15 GMT

    Yes ; we can begin to question Kallis inclusion in the team l however the other Proteas batsman were just poor yesterday; not reaching double figures and throwing their wickets away unlike Kallis whom bowlers focus and bowls good balls at him. The other batsmen loose thier wickets to silly balls.

  • TJP1000 on July 10, 2014, 6:31 GMT

    Completely agree with @desiboy454. Once Kallis is fit to bowl 4-5 overs they should bring FAF in for Philander. Duminy is actually one of our better bowlers in the sub-continent and should be our only spinner in conditions like Australia, SA, NZ and England. I would therefore replace Tahir with Parnell for the world-cup next year. That way we would have 6 bowlers and bat up to 9 (Parnell or even Philander). Kallis is a different player when fully fit.

  • on July 10, 2014, 7:37 GMT

    I agree you can't judge a batsmen by 2 short balls getting him out , plus that innings with Cummins , well he took a 6 for so most of the SA team struggled against him. Kallis is the last of the truly great players and he alone should be allowed to call it a day on his own terms , his situation is a little similar to Ponting's as you don't want to see these great players struggle and scratch for runs , but at the same time they have earned the right to retire when they choose to from the great service they have given their countries. From a Aussie your the best allrounder ever! Better than Sobers.

  • on July 10, 2014, 7:51 GMT

    2 failures and you want to bench a proven matchwinner??? He is not the type who would hang around just for the sake of it. The competitive juices in Jaques are still flowing. Give him a few more matches and you will see what I mean.