West Indies news May 30, 2014

Narine's dilemma: IPL final or West Indies camp?

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Sunil Narine has suddenly found himself between a rock and a hard place.

If the spinner remains in India to play for Kolkata Knight Riders in Sunday's IPL 2014 final, as he wants to, he will miss the West Indies Cricket Board's [WICB] June 1 deadline for joining the preparatory camp for the imminent home series against New Zealand, disqualifying him from selection.

"It is his decision," WICB's chief executive officer Michael Muirhead said on Friday. "The cut-off date for joining the camp was moved forward from May 22 to June 1 specifically to allow those players involved in the IPL the opportunity for more matches. Anyone who is in breach won't be considered for selection."

He indicated that if Narine misses the deadline, he would be unavailable for the first Test in Kingston between June 8 and 12; Narine would remain in the chosen squad of 15 and be eligible for the remainder of the series.

Speaking by telephone from his Kolkata office yesterday, Knight Riders' chief executive officer Venky Mysore spoke on Narine's behalf.

"This is in no way an act of defiance by Sunil," Mysore said. "He is seeking the board's flexibility for a couple of days leeway so that he can turn out for Knight Riders on Sunday.

"He has told us that he came to do a job and wants to see it through to its conclusion. He also wants to represent West Indies against New Zealand. You can understand the quandary that he is in."

Mysore said the IPL management had put Narine's case to the WICB. Narine has also been in touch with Wavell Hinds, president and chief executive of the West Indies Players Association (WIPA).

There was a similar situation prior to West Indies' tour of England in 2009.

Chris Gayle, then captain, applied for an extension to play one more match for his franchise team in the IPL, held that year in South Africa. The WICB acceded to the request and Gayle arrived in London two days before the Lord's Test, leading to widespread criticism of the decision.

The WICB has now taken its position following its acceptance of the "West Indies First" policy proposed by director of cricket, Richard Pybus, last March.

This lists the principle of the "prioritisation of Test cricket as the pinnacle of West Indies cricket and its protection through priority team selection and strategic scheduling".

Narine is one of six players with WICB Grade A contracts for 2014, each worth US$120,000; Dwayne Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Chris Gayle, Darren Sammy and Marlon Samuels are the others.

"For West Indies cricket to thrive and to grow, they (the players) have to make themselves available," Muirhead said at the time. "At the same time, we don't want to limit the amount or prevent their opportunities to earn."

He added then that there were no scheduled matches or tours in 2014 during the period of the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) or the Indian Premier League (IPL). The IPL final has thrown a spanner into the works.

Muirhead said Narine and Gayle, who travelled to Germany from his IPL stint with Royal Challengers Bangalore for treatment on his back injury, had advised the WICB on May 24 that they would be back by June 1.

That changed for Narine in the past two weeks as Knight Riders, at one point seemingly out of contention, reeled off eight consecutive victories to qualify for the final.

"We are not victimizing him in any way," Muirhead stated. "Like all the players, he was aware of the stipulation under the NOC (No Objection Clause) well in advance."

The NOC released West Indies players for the IPL with the stipulation that they would be available no later than one week before a Test series. The camp, currently held in Barbados, wraps up on June 3. It is, according to Muirhead, the opportunity for "meaningful practice and developing the team ethic".

Predictably, Mysore acknowledged that Knight Riders wanted Narine to stay and play the final.

"He has been a vital cog in our team since he joined us in 2012," Mysore said. "He is the leading wicket-taker in IPL 2014 with 20 wickets but, just as importantly, he has been a tremendous team man."

Mysore said the franchise, owned by Bollywood superstar Shahrukh Khan, has undertaken to fly Narine back by the fastest available flights should the WICB alter its position. He estimated that he could join the West Indies squad by June 3, five days before the first Test.

Such a scenario now seems unlikely.

Without Narine, West Indies would be short of a key bowler who has made his reputation principally in the shorter versions of the game (he is ranked No.3 in ODIs and No.2 in T20 Internationals by the ICC), but who has 18 of his 23 Test wickets against New Zealand, in two matches in the Caribbean in 2012 and one in New Zealand last December.

Off-spinner Shane Shillingford, returning from his second clearance following suspension for an illegal delivery, and left-arm spinner Sulieman Benn, who played the last of his 17 Tests almost three-and-a-half years ago, are the other spinners in the squad.

Tony Cozier has written about and commentated on cricket in the Caribbean for 50 years

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  • on May 31, 2014, 1:02 GMT

    Its easy to label this as IPL vs Tests - but its not. This is about egos and misunderstanding. If WI delayed the joining date from May 22 to June 1, why can't they do it till June 2 or June 3 to allow the players to play - you know - THE FINAL. Its not like Narine is missing a test to play the IPL final. He'll still get to WI 5-6 days before the test - thats a lot in today's cricket calendar. WI board needs to get over its ego and make the logical call. And I am not really much of a fan of the IPL - in fact I hardly watched any of it this season - but common sense clearly is on Narine's side here.

  • Salobalay on May 31, 2014, 0:51 GMT

    Why force Narine to make this decision?

  • on May 30, 2014, 22:51 GMT

    Some body in authority need to use their Brian's and make an exception like they did for Gayle .

  • on May 30, 2014, 22:09 GMT

    lets see what the decision he make. many will learn from this and the reaction from the westindies cricket board

  • Aashiyer on May 30, 2014, 20:50 GMT

    They need him Period!!!!!! Why put so much press. on a quality bieler

  • on May 30, 2014, 20:46 GMT

    The WICB appears to be making a mountain out of a molehill. This is a simple management decision and a no- brainer. Sunil Narine's IPL franchise is in the final which is scheduled for June 01 2014 which coincides with WICB's cut off date for joining there camp. Given the circumstances, any reasonable 'boss' would grant an exception and extension. No wonder West Indies is languishing close to the bottom of the ICC standings. I also find that the reported language used by the CEO "It's his decision .... " anyone who is in breach would not be considered for selection " to be most autocratic and unfortunate.

  • StevieS on May 30, 2014, 19:56 GMT

    Naeem Anjum how about moving the IPL final a day earlier to accommodate the more important test match.

  • StevieS on May 30, 2014, 19:45 GMT

    Just read a headline on another site that reads "Narine opts out of Windies Test squad", my opinion of him is now 0. Anyone putting a domestic competition above playing for your country deserves never to play any form of international cricket ever again.

  • ThinkingCricket on May 30, 2014, 19:34 GMT

    Confirmed, Sunil Narine playing IPL final, not considered for Tests vs NZL. Well done Sunil, for not bowing to an unnecessary demand just to prove loyalty.

  • on May 30, 2014, 19:28 GMT

    leave it to narine let him to decide.

  • on May 31, 2014, 1:02 GMT

    Its easy to label this as IPL vs Tests - but its not. This is about egos and misunderstanding. If WI delayed the joining date from May 22 to June 1, why can't they do it till June 2 or June 3 to allow the players to play - you know - THE FINAL. Its not like Narine is missing a test to play the IPL final. He'll still get to WI 5-6 days before the test - thats a lot in today's cricket calendar. WI board needs to get over its ego and make the logical call. And I am not really much of a fan of the IPL - in fact I hardly watched any of it this season - but common sense clearly is on Narine's side here.

  • Salobalay on May 31, 2014, 0:51 GMT

    Why force Narine to make this decision?

  • on May 30, 2014, 22:51 GMT

    Some body in authority need to use their Brian's and make an exception like they did for Gayle .

  • on May 30, 2014, 22:09 GMT

    lets see what the decision he make. many will learn from this and the reaction from the westindies cricket board

  • Aashiyer on May 30, 2014, 20:50 GMT

    They need him Period!!!!!! Why put so much press. on a quality bieler

  • on May 30, 2014, 20:46 GMT

    The WICB appears to be making a mountain out of a molehill. This is a simple management decision and a no- brainer. Sunil Narine's IPL franchise is in the final which is scheduled for June 01 2014 which coincides with WICB's cut off date for joining there camp. Given the circumstances, any reasonable 'boss' would grant an exception and extension. No wonder West Indies is languishing close to the bottom of the ICC standings. I also find that the reported language used by the CEO "It's his decision .... " anyone who is in breach would not be considered for selection " to be most autocratic and unfortunate.

  • StevieS on May 30, 2014, 19:56 GMT

    Naeem Anjum how about moving the IPL final a day earlier to accommodate the more important test match.

  • StevieS on May 30, 2014, 19:45 GMT

    Just read a headline on another site that reads "Narine opts out of Windies Test squad", my opinion of him is now 0. Anyone putting a domestic competition above playing for your country deserves never to play any form of international cricket ever again.

  • ThinkingCricket on May 30, 2014, 19:34 GMT

    Confirmed, Sunil Narine playing IPL final, not considered for Tests vs NZL. Well done Sunil, for not bowing to an unnecessary demand just to prove loyalty.

  • on May 30, 2014, 19:28 GMT

    leave it to narine let him to decide.

  • on May 30, 2014, 19:19 GMT

    Wat kind of training naraine needed he is lacking of he is doing well here taking lots of wicket so y u want him so early he is best he has to play for his first commitment that is ipl than go for test series.

  • Cpt.Meanster on May 30, 2014, 19:14 GMT

    The decision must be left to Narine himself. The problem arises when a group of OLD MEN wearing dress suits and ties in a board room make all the decisions. If Narine wants to represent the WI then he can leave the IPL. If he chooses to play for KKR and win the IPL championship then he should be allowed to do so. This is the era of the players. Club vs country debate has no bearing here. This is simply arrogance from the WICB. I am sure Narine will don the Purple and Gold of KKR come June 1.

  • DingDong420 on May 30, 2014, 19:10 GMT

    You are in my fantasy team...STAY!!

  • Daanav on May 30, 2014, 19:03 GMT

    One other important consideration is that the first Test match is being played at Sabina Park, probably the least spinner friendly ground on earth. That being the case, the WI authorities should give poor Narine some leeway and allow him to play in the IPL final.

  • remnant on May 30, 2014, 17:22 GMT

    Why is WICB throwing its weight at this moment? What will it achieve by not letting Narine stay for a one day more? Its a team's final match, so why can't it wait for one more day? It will only create needless bad blood and what if it impairs future Windies players involvement in IPL? Would the board explain to its players or pay compensate them?

  • GeoffreysMother on May 30, 2014, 17:14 GMT

    The fact that it is a dilemma, and that some say he should play for a franchise first, shows the corrosive impact of the IPL on the international programme of poorer test playing nations. This series has already been delayed from the traditional peak time for cricket in the West Indies because of the IPL's impact on New Zealand and West Indian players. Narine do the right thing!

  • on May 30, 2014, 16:36 GMT

    Lets grow up; this is a simple ,management challenge which should not even be making news. Giving Narine two, three or four days extension does no harm to WI cricket. In fact it helps from any angle which one may want to look at it. Every policy or rule has an inbuilt factor for exceptions. This is a justifiable exception. For those who fear that this may influence the need to make exceptions in the future, that is not a justifiable reason. If that same principle has to be applied in the future for other legitimate causes, so be it. Also, let us not forget how important Indian advertising revenue is to the success of our CPL. Good relations with Indian Cricket administration is in WI cricket interest. Give Narine the few days extension he needs.

  • Kashi0127 on May 30, 2014, 16:32 GMT

    Here's a twist that could be on the way. I am from Bangalore and has been raining on and off. Weekend forecast is rainsand thunderstorm. Every possibility that IPL could be washed out. Narine might end up losing on both ends.

  • OpenTalk on May 30, 2014, 16:06 GMT

    It's time for a player to choose which side he lands on. Narine should play for his country. If the country didn't give an opportunity to shine he wouldn't be in IPL. This is time for him to show his gratitude. It becomes IPL's trent to not release players for their country and putting players in dilemma. If this continues that won't be a good sign for the cricket!

  • on May 30, 2014, 15:04 GMT

    Narine should play final of IPL , & WI board should give him 2 days relaxation

  • on May 30, 2014, 14:46 GMT

    b4u8me2 that is a well thought out view, however, the tone and the conclusion of your views are a little troubling. I quite agree that a confident player is of more use to the West Indies team. However, to suggest that this is a power struggle is unfortunate. In my humble opinion, what I would criticize the West Indies Cricket Board for is shortsightedness, simply by not expecting or even assuming that West Indies Players would be involved in the Finals of the IPL. Therefore, a little latitude should have been exercised for any player making it to the finals. We are a dominant force in T20 Cricket, and the West Indian Players that excel in this format are match winners for their respective franchises.

  • on May 30, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    One thing getting lost in this debate is the international cricket calendar. Tours are planned way ahead of time and there is often very little flexibility in terms of the timing. That there is far too much international cricket being played, is a whole other argument to be had. I suspect the West Indies Board offered players offered all the leeway they could re the IPL but at the end of the day choices have to be made. The people who run WI cricket have their faults but they do recognize the money that can be made by players in the IPL that they will never hope to match. But the money notwithstanding, playing for your country always has to take precedence in my book. Narine has to decide which is more important to him, money or honour. Having played the whole tournament I'm sure he's made a nice paycheque, finals or no finals. While I'm sure he would love to play in the IPL finals, which is completely understandable, hard choices have to be made. And there is always next year.

  • on May 30, 2014, 14:01 GMT

    I think just like how they did it for Gayle , they can do it for Narine .

  • b4u8me2 on May 30, 2014, 13:51 GMT

    The WICB seems not to understand the importance of having a player enter a game high on confidence and in the best mindset. I am sure Narine will be of more use to the WI if KKR wins the final and Narine walks away with the Purple Cap. He will be so high on confidence that the NZ batsmen will find him difficult to play. If he misses that final and KKR lose Narine is going to blame himself and he will not enter that first test with alot of confidence. Narine could also miss the IPL final and still not get picked in the WI final 11. I say Narine should play the IPL final. WICB needs to know when to do away with the power struggle. This is not about Narine choosing KKR over WI. The IPL final is a big occasion in the young man's life. The WICB should unreservedly allow him that opportunity to play.

  • on May 30, 2014, 13:43 GMT

    He is not a test player, but that is reason to show up - he wants to cement himself in the test squad. I feel bad KKR won't win without his miserly overs.

  • on May 30, 2014, 13:35 GMT

    Sunil deserves to play in the finals of the IPL. If he was not playing at the moment then it would have been imperative that he made himself available to join the camp. As for team spirit I am sure the other members of the team would appreciate the fact that just like he if they were in the same position they would have loved to represent their team in the finals as well as have the opportunity to come away with the most wickets in the tournament.

  • on May 30, 2014, 13:32 GMT

    No doubt Narine is one of the best in the business at the moment. But what good will it do, if he does not provides his services to his country. WI cricket is not healthy at the moment. They have talent , glamor and outstanding t20 players , but their Test and ODI performances have not been very good in the recent past. Despite winning the Wt20 in 2012 , they still have to improve a lot to satisfy their fans. Narine will have a great impact on the outcome of the test series against New Zealand , that's why he needs to choose his country on the 1st of July even though its a tough decision to make.

  • switchmitch on May 30, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    Just go and join the prep camp Narine. International duty comes first. You've already played your money's worth in this IPL. It would be a shame if you stayed back to choose franchise cricket over tests.

  • Ben2014 on May 30, 2014, 13:06 GMT

    Can't blame WICB this time. They have already extended the deadline by a week. Can't and shouldn't ask for more. As of now Narine is best suited for T20. So he should (and will) play for KKR; forego his chance of playing in the first test. If the other spinners don't do well, Narine will get a chance in the 2nd test. WIPA may intercede for him but may not put too much pressure on WICB. WI has got other good spinners who play good spin in test cricket. Narine for KKR' IPL final and for WI 2nd test. Life goes on.

  • SHEREHIND on May 30, 2014, 13:06 GMT

    Every decision could be termed as logical or ill logical, hence better for Narine to throw a coin and decide the fate.

  • on May 30, 2014, 12:46 GMT

    Narine should give his priority to his country. I hope he doesn't take his IPL team over his country.

  • Honda4808 on May 30, 2014, 12:36 GMT

    It is not that Narine is between a rock and a hard place. All WI should be proud that one of their players contributed to a team to reach the finals in the IPL. Narine should be considered without hesitation, by the WICB and WIPA, a few days' extension, under this peculiar situation. For some to say he is not the best spinner in WI is beside the point. He has been recognised as one of the team's players and there was no objection to his selection. Give him a chance and do not allow a guilt conscience to creep in lest his contribution to the current NZ series can be diminished. It is a almost once in a life time opportunity. He is keeping fit; agree practising with your team is an asset but it is like he is now recovering from the flu or some minor illness. Give the IPL and KKR fans some consideration - All in the sport of Cricket!

  • duffy25 on May 30, 2014, 12:34 GMT

    Having Narine on the team for the final, will make a big different for KKR. He is not a test player anyway.I know that your country come first in all what you do, but there is other guys that would take that roll.

  • on May 30, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    The way the Board makes decisions continue to baffle me. Why extend to June 1 when they already knew the IPL final is June 1 and very would likely involve at least one Windies player? Nonsense! Either make a real extension or none at all. Muddled thinking as usual!!!

  • A-Gunnie on May 30, 2014, 12:29 GMT

    I agree on both sides here however,we can say the same about others such as bravo,gayle and pollard not forgetting Sammy of late who usually find a way to make themselves unavailable in the past. W.I will not be stranded as Shillingford and or Bishoo to play.

  • landl47 on May 30, 2014, 12:14 GMT

    The WICB has got itself into this situation. By trying to accommodate the IPL players it has created the scenario in which the players can argue that the intention to allow the players to fulfill their IPL contracts has already been shown. To insist that a player who is in the IPL final must drop out and come back for a WICB practice camp is therefore a ridiculous contradiction of the original policy.

    Either the WICB should have said that the IPL is irrelevant to its plans for test cricket and not moved the date in the first place or that it would let any player who makes the final to play and then come to the camp. To agree to accommodate the IPL EXCEPT for the final just makes the policy and the WICB look foolish.

    Narine should stay, accept the penalty and work on getting in the side for the next test. One test won't make or break his career, but how many finals will he have the chance to play in? Especially since he's an outstanding T20 bowler but only an average test bowler.

  • Ab_ki_baar_Pakistan on May 30, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    Obviously nation first, I mean Narine is playing in IPL because of West Indies. The respect & fame is because of his country. Priority should be the test match which is his primary job, IPL is secondary.

  • on May 30, 2014, 11:55 GMT

    NO Brainer ! Sunday's game is on cricket's world stage and Sunil is a star. He will be in the playing 11 on Sunday.

  • on May 30, 2014, 11:53 GMT

    What has happened to Bishoo? He should be drafted into the team now.He is in form now.Don't waste time on Narine who is a t20 specialist.

  • insightfulcricketer on May 30, 2014, 11:52 GMT

    The first test starts on June 9. Your premier spinner gets to play in a high profile T20 final and the experience will hold him in good stead should by some miracle West Indies get to play in high profile playoff game in future. For me its a no-brainer for West Indies selectors to let Narine join after final. Missing something?

  • TheMiddleStump on May 30, 2014, 11:48 GMT

    @Rally_Windies, being a fan of cricket in general with a particular interest in WI cricket I've followed Miller for the past 8 yrs. I know his stats are extraordinary but clearly he isn't in favor with the WI selectors. To make matters worse, in the very few opportunities he has gotten at the international level he hasn't put in a performance to stamp his class.

    If u really follow WI cricket you would see that. He won't play for WI again for a long time especially when 3 spinners are picked ahead on him in a 15-man squad for a test to be played in his home country of Jamaica.

  • DannyBurke on May 30, 2014, 11:38 GMT

    Whilst I am not a fan of the IPL the WICB's thinking here is baffling.

    "The cut-off date for joining the camp was moved forward from May 22 to June 1 specifically to allow those players involved in the IPL the opportunity for more matches. Anyone who is in breach won't be considered for selection."

    So why not the 2nd? You have multiple WI players in the IPL. You know there is a good chance of someone going all the way to the final as there's WI eligible player on all but 1 or 2 team iirc.

    If you are going to extend the date, just be wiser about it!

  • VivGilchrist on May 30, 2014, 11:15 GMT

    It shouldn't be an issue anyway. Narine is not in the best 3 spinners in WI in the longer format for starters. Why does Miller get ignored? He's the West Indian Steve OKeefe... Miles ahead of his competitors but never selected.

  • Mayaro_Man on May 30, 2014, 11:13 GMT

    As a fan of Sunil Narine it would really hurt me if Narine did not make himself available by 1 June. I think his Test place will be in the balance and I will not fault the WICB for picking another player who may very well cement their place and then Narine will be out. i hope he has Windies cricket higher up on his priorities list. Be wise young man.

  • SamAsh07 on May 30, 2014, 11:13 GMT

    He should definitely go for the Test team and his country, why represent an "Indian" club team when you can represent your very own country! Besides Narine hasn't done anything of late for KKR, it's all Uthappa for the past 2-3 games. Narine is NOT needed to win the final. KKR should release him, win the Final and prove to the world that KKR is much more even without Narine.

  • on May 30, 2014, 10:57 GMT

    I think country should come first

  • ravs2627 on May 30, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    He needs to serve his country first and then IPL at second priority...

  • on May 30, 2014, 10:41 GMT

    This is rediculous debate. What ever be the sitiuation and however bigger the money Narine should choose to play for his country. With out the country giving oppurtunities no player could have made it big. Especailly when the WI test team is struggling Narine should already be with his team practising for the 1st test.

  • on May 30, 2014, 10:36 GMT

    Anyway the TEST will be starting on 8th June. It's the matter of only joining. WICB should be bit flexible towards Narine and also towards KKR. Because, if you will miss a key player (performed upto expectation throughout the tournament) in such a big Final event, then its a big loos for the team. And KKR will miss Narine badly. Its not happening for the first time. For Gayle, they have been given a chance. And now for Narine..... As a KKR fan I want Narine to play the final as well as for his country.

  • on May 30, 2014, 10:33 GMT

    And this is exactly why many WI players including some big names like Gayle have been disappointed with the WICB. This should not even be debated, it's a question of a day, if it was significant, then Narine would obviously go back to represent his side just like Malinga did for MI...but here it is just one day, and he is not even missing out on a match. People who are saying about Dhoni or Kohli in same situation, well BCCI is smart enough to never react like this; they would have already taken care of all scenarios because they know the value of money, and they know how to take care of their own, and nurture and cherish great talent; something which the WICB has a track record of being poor at. This is not a question of test vs t20 or Nation Vs IPL, this is a question of common sense vs nonsense; that's how simply I see it...

  • ms.arjun on May 30, 2014, 10:25 GMT

    Playing for your country with millions of your own country's people expectations and hopes vs Playing for your franchise where you make fill crazy money in some business man's pocket. Wow. This is indeed a tough choice.

  • Niju_001 on May 30, 2014, 10:25 GMT

    Its a terrible situation for Sunil Narine. If he stays he will be blamed by the windies for not following the country first policy of theirs and if he returns and KKR loses then it will terribly upset him becoz he has done all the hardwork and is the main force for KKR bowling dept. He is an integral part of KKR's success. If there were much more games to be played then I would suggest Sunil should return but here the scenario is different. Its a final and his presence is much needed moreover he still can be available for the 1st test against the Kiwis. The 3 day preparatory session may be missed though. I wonder if he does leave to windies will he be able to give his hundred percent if KKR loses in the finals? or if he stays and KKR wins will it boost his morale and show much more improved performance against the Kiwis?

  • bijendrasinha on May 30, 2014, 10:24 GMT

    i would say Narine should finish the latest assignment first nd then make every possible effort to join the camp..but the utmost necessity is the team he is involved in.. if anyone is saying it would be for financial gain then he is completely ignoring the cricketer's commitment towards his club.. he has some responsibilities for his club too nd now when his team is needing him most he should not leave it.. More importantly no one is saying that why the schedule was made such that it is coinciding with IPL final.. it could have been averted easily if WICB had put june 2 for Camp..there is not just one player but many west indian players are involved in this tournament.. BCCI and other teams should go hand in hand to avert these issues in future too and make such window for this tournament..

  • Metro-ant on May 30, 2014, 9:48 GMT

    Shouldn't be up for debate. I'm surprised he hasn't left for the West Indies already. It's not his intention but a lot of Windies players in recent years have been treading on the maroon cap and the legacy which the greats left behind all those decades ago. Time to show the true value and honor in playing for the West Indies Sunil.

  • baghels.a on May 30, 2014, 9:41 GMT

    I also want to shatter the myth cricketers play for there countries only for glory and not for money , if that was the case we would not be seeing all these contractual disputes between players associations and there respective boards... in any case cricketers from India,England,Australia,Pakistan,SL,WI are all contracted players and some of these are very lucrative if you come from the big 3 countries.if you want to highlight the glory thing then better cite the examples of Lionel Messi and Ronaldo who get annual wages 10 times higher than highest paid IPL cricketer and whose transfer sums are 50 times higher than highest bid sum in IPL ...now when these footballers turn up for there countries they play for absolutely free !!! To all those saying how would you Indian fans react if MSD or Kohli would have been in a similar position , my reply to that is that BCCI,Indian fans,sponsors make sure that our Indian cricketers are so well paid and loved that they don't have to leave India.

  • ThinkingCricket on May 30, 2014, 9:34 GMT

    @ModernUmpires: Surely you didn't type that with a straight face? Dhoni and Kohli ARE missing an entire tour, because they want to relax after IPL. No one's rioting, in fact we are pleased youngsters get to play.

  • xtrafalgarx on May 30, 2014, 9:32 GMT

    Not a dilema at all. go and play test cricket for your country, easy decision. IPL is a 6 week competition, test cricket is a lifetime's worth of dedication.

  • on May 30, 2014, 9:29 GMT

    For a sportsman, he does not want to miss any single match. Being it for Club or Country, it does not matter. KKR has reached the finals and this is a great opportunity for him to play in finals and try to win it. He had to join the training camp for fitness test and they will decide whether he is qualified for playing test. Right? Anyway he is going to involve in a competitive game. In my opinion Sunil Narine should finish his duty for KKR and should join the WI camp. I am a CSK supporter and I want CSK to reach the finals and beating KXIP. Same time I know how Sunil will be a threat to any team. WI and press should take this situation in a good manner and should not blow up like this.

  • ThinkingCricket on May 30, 2014, 9:04 GMT

    A lot of this discussion is ignoring the fact that the only reason this is 'club vs country' is because the country is unreasonably demanding that the player return more than a week in advance. It's quite possible for him to play both, and ideally WI should let him play both.

  • baghels.a on May 30, 2014, 9:00 GMT

    Sensible thing for WICB will be to delay or extend Narine's arrival for two day , that way common sense prevails , if WICB stick to there guns which i highly doubt then ball will be in Narine's court and that would be putting unbearable pressure on one guy.Secondly to put things in perspective IPL only goes for 50 days but international series like WI vs NZ keep happening for rest of 10 months, some of it is overkill and more than half meaningless........ there is hardly anyone watching in stadiums and no good Ratings on TV ...okay if this was an Ashes where test cricket is valued and is the pinnacle for those watching it or any series involving India or even Pakistan where fans fill the stadium and TV ratings are high i would have understood but majority of people in New Zealand follow Rugby and even football leagues like EPL have edged ahead of cricket in popularity while ironically in WI IPL and especially CPL are reviving interest in cricket ....to be contd..

  • ModernUmpiresPlz on May 30, 2014, 8:55 GMT

    While I wouldn't mind seeing just a little flexibility from the WICB in regards to Narine it's far more ridiculous to see KKR fans saying he should definitely stay or that the WICB is depriving him of cash. He's going to get paid the same whether he plays or not, do you think KKR won't retain him for next season if he leaves to go play for his country in test match cricket? Really? And no other team will buy him obviously because "he might leave is in the final"? Or, obviously, his IPL stocks went up again this year regardless of whether he stays or not and he should just go join the test squad if the WICB want to play that way because it's, hopefully anyway, far more important to him to play test cricket than IPL club cricket.

    As has been said a few times, imagine if Dhoni or Kohli stayed for the Big Bash final in Australia and ignored a final return date for an India v England test series in India. There would be riots.

  • ladycricfan on May 30, 2014, 8:53 GMT

    Finals finishes at around 11.30 pm indian time. In the carribean islands it is 1PM. Narine can play the finals, rush to the air port straight after and reach Windies on june 1st itself.

  • on May 30, 2014, 8:53 GMT

    I am a KKR supporter and Very much aware of the value he provides to KKR.But Narine should not miss the chance to play for WI in a test and should be released by KKR.Cummins should be included in his place and in spin department, it will be sakib and chawla.

    5 bowlers for kkr will become Morkel,Cummins,Umesh,Sakib,Chawla and that should still be a strong bowling line up.

  • on May 30, 2014, 8:48 GMT

    I guess it depends on how badly Narine wants to make a name for himself in the longer format. He's already established as one of the very best in T20 and it was always a high possibility that if his club got to the final, it would compromise the Test Match schedule. Should he choose KKR, then his selection as the first choice spinner would quite rightly go down the pecking order, but considering his age, he has time on his side to work on his improvement as a Test Match bowler. The mere fact that the IPL season clashing with the International season in the Caribbean after all these years is nothing new and it's unfortunate that some players will choose financial gain over International honour, is the reality of the modern game. I for one don't like it, but it is what it is!!

  • on May 30, 2014, 8:22 GMT

    Narine should prefer to join wi camp.

  • ramli on May 30, 2014, 8:21 GMT

    Where is the question of decision? Country or club ... anytime and everytime it will be "country" for a nationalist ... only pseudo-nationalists will be in a quandary ... this shows the attitude of players ... what a shame if Narine chosses to stay on for the IPL final

  • on May 30, 2014, 8:20 GMT

    Narine could be brilliant against Maxwell/Miller/Sehwag trio as well as Mccullum/Smith/Raina.. He is not key for the final. One more thing to be noted is Bangalore pitch wont support spinners much.I guess Kallis might be in contention if Narine reports to his national duty. Players should give their priority to National Team than IPL.

  • on May 30, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    The WI cricket board blew it a few years ago with a stubborn approach to Chris Gayle. Narine is killing it in the IPL and you only have to look at the example of Mitchell Johnson who the year before took his magic IPL form into test cricket and smashed England and SA almost single handed. the WI board need to be flexible for a fellow like Narine and they no doubt will benefit if they do

  • on May 30, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    WICB is right here. Narine has done well in IPL but if anyone prefer club cricket over national duties should be banned forever. It is a matter of highest privilege and honor to play for you own country. In India only 18 of 125 billion got selected for english tour - that shows what it means. Sunil Narine leave that money packed and night oarty packed girl dancing IPL. Return to your country. Indian cricket will destroy you. Shame on Indian cricket.

  • Siva_Bala75 on May 30, 2014, 7:52 GMT

    If CSK reaches the finals, NZL captain McCullum will play the IPL final. Looks like NZ is more accommodating than WI.

  • Siva_Bala75 on May 30, 2014, 7:49 GMT

    Malinga and Narine are the two best T20 bowlers in the world- Ajmal at a distant third lead the rest. Without Narine, KKR will look very similar to Mumbai Indians without Malinga. If Narine does not play, KKR will lose. Period.

  • on May 30, 2014, 7:47 GMT

    Why not play the IPL final in Kingston? The authorities concerned can definitely afford it. Moreover, it would help popularize the IPL in the WI. The Caribbean islands are also a great venue for the victory after party.

  • on May 30, 2014, 7:45 GMT

    IPL is only a regional tournament . But play test for own country is more then valuable coz it represent help his own country .So i think i will go always play for my country first thn go for other. Country should first priority for all crickets otherwise ICC need to apply a new rules for banning those players

  • on May 30, 2014, 7:43 GMT

    If Narine moves out , it will be the immense loss for KKR !! and opponent team will raise their hands up .Let see the contributions of KKR Players

    Narine - 30% Uttappa - 30% Gambhir - 10% Shakib - 15% Rest - 15%

    So KKR badly needs Narine Performance at this moment

  • on May 30, 2014, 7:42 GMT

    Agreed that playing for country should be on higher priority than for a franchise, WICB is not making it any easier for players. Statement of WICB's chief executive officer Michael Muirhead, "The cut-off date for joining the camp was moved forward from May 22 to June 1 specifically to allow those players involved in the IPL the opportunity for more matches. ..." is a self contradictory one. WICB knows IPL is till June 1, but still they chose to put cut off date which will create problems for players. Forget about being pro towards players, WICB was never even neutral towards players.

  • screamingeagle on May 30, 2014, 7:36 GMT

    @Kashi, here is another interesting scenario for you to wonder. CSK loses to Punjab, which makes your scenarios null and void? Quite obvious, I would have thought.

  • Desert_Stormer on May 30, 2014, 7:36 GMT

    These kind of deadlines set by cricketing boards only widen the divide in the cricketing world on the" T20 vs Test debate".It sets a bad precedence if a star cricketer like Sunil Narine chooses IPL over country,but,at the same time,it would be unfair to deprive him of an opportunity to earn some bucks by playing in the IPL.

  • harsh12362004 on May 30, 2014, 7:30 GMT

    I dont see any reason for Sunil Narine to leave IPL final and go for a preparatory camp. This is a home series for WI, the conditions are known to Narine and I dont see any need of him attending such camp as a necessity. To everyone who are saying Narine should leave the final to attend a camp - You need a reality check. WICB should extend the camp by a couple of days as there is still time for the 1st test.

  • on May 30, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    It should be entirely left to the player to take a decision

  • shane-oh on May 30, 2014, 7:17 GMT

    @Raghunathan Sreekrishnan - I think you've missed the entire point of the article, which was that Narine and KKR knew from the beginning when he would no longer be available for the IPL. And so, the destruction of international cricket by the IPL continues on it's merry way.

  • on May 30, 2014, 7:14 GMT

    As narine is playing lot good for kolkata and is seen to Be fit & in form ...there is no need of 7 days for game planning to adopt, he can do it in 5 day its sufficient ...as seeing this wI Board should give one last day to play ipl as he can turn game to his side :-) ..........

  • Kashi0127 on May 30, 2014, 7:10 GMT

    Here's another interesting outcome because of this dilemma of Narine. Who benefits most from this? It is MS Dhoni. Consider both scenarios:

    If Narine decides to go back to WI and not play final - For Dhoni the IPL is in the bag more or less as a key bowler is gone from KKR

    Narine decides not to go to WI and plays for KKR - For Dhoni this is something of a huge opportunity for India. Narine gets banned for few years by WI. Whenever India plays WI, Narine is not there. India (Dhoni) benefits.

    A case of Heads I win, Tails you Lose for Dhoni.

  • on May 30, 2014, 7:08 GMT

    We are going to witness more such situations in the future considering growing no. of matches & tournaments. Situations are changing & so it calls for little more flexibility, albeit with discretion. Wise heads need to be working wisely all the time keeping egos aside. It would have been different if it was just a league game or even the date of reaching was within 3 days of start of the match. But its final, Narain is going be match fit, reaching well 5 days ahead. LAst couple of decades have already seen WI loose on progress due to some ego clash or other. It has affected their overall progress adversly. Game always comes first but one must evaluate each situation correctly. Also sometimes good talent needs to be cajoled to an extent to convert it into great player! If not, not only the player but team and ultimately the game suffers. Lara wouldn't have been Lara if wisodm would not have prevailed then & Pieterson would have won many more matches for ENG if it had.

  • Kashi0127 on May 30, 2014, 7:05 GMT

    @ThinkingCricket Absolutely Tests matter more than a player and most definitely IPL. Imagine a Indian player saying he is playing a Pakistan League Match and not available for India Australia series. Ridiculous!!

  • ThinkingCricket on May 30, 2014, 7:01 GMT

    @jhonathonjosephs: Who cares about IPL? Everyone except die-hard Test fans who believe only Tests are real. Seriously, the IPL final will be a packed house with hundreds of millions watching against world-class opposition in a high-octane atmosphere. Narine's team is on a miracle 8 match come-back streak. Give that up to go back a week earlier than needed to practice for a meaningless Test in front of an empty stadium? It would be suicide.

  • Kashi0127 on May 30, 2014, 7:00 GMT

    West Indies , stand firm and don't budge. Think of the days and years when you ruled the world of cricket. Sobers, Kanhai, Llyod, Roberts, Holding, Marshall, Garner.... just to mention a few cricketers. Regain those days and dominate in actual cricket not the world of politics that BCCI and some of the boards indulge in. I would love to see the kind of bowling that I saw from Holding, Roberts etc and bring the opposition to its feet. Only way that can be done is be firm and don't bow to the others (Big 3). Ban Narine if you have to... set an example!

    - An Indian , but not an IPL fan

  • MrAhsan007 on May 30, 2014, 6:53 GMT

    narine should be in the tests.i am waiting for a year to see shillgford and narine bowling in tandem.they r not only wi best spinners but best two bowlers.i dont understand wi policy to play narine in only odi t20 and shillingford in only tests.they both should be in every wi xi

  • johnathonjosephs on May 30, 2014, 6:47 GMT

    Narine needs to know that IPL is every year and is ONLY AN IPL. Who cares about IPL in the end of the day? Its not an international competition and the serious cricket fans really couldn't care less about it. Narine needs to go to the Test Camp. At the end of the day, will people remember a player for his contribution to the 100 or so Tests he played or will they care about the 900+ IPL games he participated in? Country over any silly tournament any day. If Virat Kohli played in the Big Bash and had the choice of playing in the Finals or getting ready for the upcoming Test against West Indies, what would the Indians fan want?

  • ThinkingCricket on May 30, 2014, 6:44 GMT

    Narine would be mad to play for WI. It's they who are being unreasonable, since it's clearly possible for him to play both. Another example of their stupidity since they are forcing an artificial choice between Tests and T20, and trying to prove a point that Tests matter more at the expense of the player.

    Narine can, should and will pick KKR first.

  • Harinasi on May 30, 2014, 6:41 GMT

    KKR should allow Narine to represent his country, which should always take the top priority, Narine from his end should ask the WICB just once, if they deny an extension of a couple of more days then he should be packing his bags ! KKR is potent enough even without his overs, specially after the last game, one man doesn't make the team !

  • Kashi0127 on May 30, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    Here's a thought. Why cant IPL pull the final a day early?

  • British_North_America on May 30, 2014, 6:33 GMT

    It is a clear WICB vs IPL clash.We somehow got rid of Richard Pybass but now he is causing trouble there.

  • Kashi0127 on May 30, 2014, 6:33 GMT

    @biggyd Most ridiculous comment I heard. Just because there are more people who watch a cock and bull fight does not justify forgetting your duty. Test Match is highly recognized form of cricket and IPL... I don't know what to call it , definitely NOT cricket. And I agree with WI board, ultimately its for Narine to chose. Whether he wants to be a real cricketer or on of the foot soldiers in a Reality Show.

  • Naresh28 on May 30, 2014, 6:31 GMT

    PLAY FOR YOUR COUNTRY FIRST........all cricketers should adopt this stance. Yes KKR will miss his absence but this is unfortunate. Indian fan.

  • Chennai_Cricket on May 30, 2014, 6:31 GMT

    West indies don't fight with one of Big 3 countries.

  • on May 30, 2014, 6:30 GMT

    I think its country before IPL, that is the difference between WI board and other boards. Other country would have aleady calll their players back, eg sri lanka, Austrailia, Enland and others sending SOS for players to come and be prepared. This is not about practicing, its about executing team strategy and gelling with the team, come on Windies bring him home

  • Sri_Lankan_Cricket_Fan on May 30, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    It is pathetic how a domestic tournament impact on International cricket. Perhaps other countries should let BIG 3 to play a different cricket with each other and all other countries continue international cricket as they used to do over years before IPL begins.

  • Riddymon on May 30, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    @FacebookUser: none of those guys (badree/dwayne smith) were selected for the test squad so it doesn't matter if they come back in time. I'd say that they should just let him finish out the season for Kolkata..he's one of their best bowlers. Malinga left Mumbai and we see how that worked out for them. Besides..i'm still not convinced that Narine is the best choice for the long format where batsman can just play him out. He's at his most dangerous when batsman have to attack.

  • on May 30, 2014, 6:21 GMT

    Usually I'd say Country first but come on WI board. With a little common sense, both can be achieved. Tests are 7 days apart and Narine hasn't been enjoying beaches for the last 2 months. He's very much match fit physically and mentally. Don't put him on the spot guys.

  • on May 30, 2014, 6:20 GMT

    Narine can easily play test on 8th June...I think his performance will not effect if he not join camp before test..so let him to play IPL finale. He is a great asset for a team

  • stormy16 on May 30, 2014, 6:16 GMT

    This is absurd! A player should never have this burden - chosing between teams/country etc. The first test starts on the 8th, does it really matter if Sunil gets there on the 1st or the 6th. Sure he may not have a perfect preperation bu its not like the guy is sitting on a beach with his feet up. Administrators just need to pull the finger out and make sure the games moves without getting in the way.

  • crick50 on May 30, 2014, 6:06 GMT

    Country Duty first.. Since Camp ends on 3rd June they can't push further.Thats the primary reason why England & srilankan player were not picked in this auction as they have their country assignment. Go Narine impress in test level as well.

  • biggyd on May 30, 2014, 6:05 GMT

    for a nz windies test? you got to be kidding. count how many crkt fans will watch the ipl final worldwide...now count the ones watching the test. you might need both hands

  • on May 30, 2014, 6:04 GMT

    This will not be an issue for NZC and B. McCullum. Re: NZC are capable of common sense. The IPL final is on 1 June and the 1st test starts 8 June, a whole week apart. Any player could easily play both if common sense prevails. Wake up WI Cricket!

  • on May 30, 2014, 5:53 GMT

    The test match will begin 8th of June. Narine can join the camp on 3rd June. He has already in practice.

  • vishal.gadhave on May 30, 2014, 5:50 GMT

    WI shd give extension to the fantastic player. No doubt country is always first. But to a passinate cricketer, cricket is everything. Whether its IPL / Test cricket.

  • on May 30, 2014, 5:45 GMT

    I see one of the two things happening: - IPL convincing WICB to allow Narine the exception. And KKR losing the finals. - Narine meeting the deadline and NOT getting picked for the test. And KKR losing the finals.

    Irrespective of what it is, KKR is losing.

  • Masking_Tape on May 30, 2014, 5:43 GMT

    Also his spot in KKR XI is guaranteed. WICB is only up for selection, which he won't be eligible for if he isn't there by June 1st. So....

  • Kashi0127 on May 30, 2014, 5:40 GMT

    A PIECE of ADVICE to SUNIL NARINE:

    IPLs or equivalent come and go. Each Test Match for your country is such an honor don't forget your duty. You are yet to make a great impression in tests. Every opportunity you get to showcase your skill should be grabbed with open arms. There is nothing like establishing yourself in test cricket. All others (ODI, T20, IPL in that order) are less significant. Even if you drop out of the IPL final they will take you next year! Bowlers with even half skill as you will get a chance repeatedly. Getting into a test is an honor one cannot forget or belittle. Four overs in a match where bowlers in general are not respected compared to playing for country and displaying your skills is a no brainier in making the right decision.

    AGAIN as an Indian and KKR supporter, I still urge you to let go of this IPL attachment and play for the glory of your country.

  • Masking_Tape on May 30, 2014, 5:38 GMT

    I think West Indies would be dumb to make players choose between IPL and WICB. It's only going to create unnecessary complication. Yes, they showed consideration by pushing the deadline, but why not push it past the final knowing all the IPL teams have most of West Indies top players.

  • on May 30, 2014, 5:36 GMT

    What about Badree, Dwayne smith if chennai through to final on 1st June. What about Brendon Macullam who is the capt of Newzealand. Already 1st tour match are underway. 2nd match on 2nd June.

    what is the playing condition for Newzealand players.

    All the players of Newzealand & West Indies released for their country duty. Irrespective of the situation, country duty is first.

  • on May 30, 2014, 5:34 GMT

    Hmm this is a interesting one. Another example of the IPL messing up weak boards like WI & NZ. WI have already given up their entire peak months (January-May) off their home season, to avoid clashes with the IPL season - now this

    I can understand WI position, especially if as the article is stating the NOC certificate had set for his arrival on June 1st, but this is tricky.

    I notice NZ captain, McCullum isn't in the caribbean yet also & could face a similar dilemma is CSK qualifies for the IPL final today. Will be interesting to see how the NZC boards reacts to McCullum...

  • on May 30, 2014, 5:34 GMT

    Why not play the IPL finals in Kingston? The IPL franchisees can afford it and the WI islands would make a good place for partying after the win, isn't it? Additionally they will also get a good name for having played a part in the revival of Test cricket's interest in the WI islands.

  • on May 30, 2014, 5:33 GMT

    The fact that WI management moved 22nd may to 1st june to allow IPL players to play IPL matches... so, in continuation of it; it should now relax by another 2 days... this would be seen as a good act for the WI/IPL players. However if they don't extend then Narine should go to WI to play test match leaving out IPL. Nothing is bigger than playing for your country.

  • Kashi0127 on May 30, 2014, 5:32 GMT

    "The cut-off date for joining the camp was moved forward from May 22 to June 1 specifically to allow those players involved in the IPL the opportunity for more matches. Anyone who is in breach won't be considered for selection."

    This is the comment from WI Board and I consider this magnanimous! I do not see why such consideration need to be given to a tournament which is so very local to another country. That too an event which one is not sure if it is real cricket! Has this been done in the past for players who are in English County? I remember Farook Engineer was not considered for whole series because he did not come back in time from his English County Cricket responsibilities. Some one relatively unheard of (Jeejibhoy or Krishnamurthy) was picked for the tour.

  • chin-music on May 30, 2014, 5:17 GMT

    What is this guy Narine thinking ? Choice should be obvious. Masala cricket like IPL is only about the pay cheque -- & his is assured irrespective of whether he plays final or not. This nonsensical stuff about loyalty to "KKR" or any other fanchise is just a marketing ploy - the only real loyalty that Narine should have is towards the WI. Imagine the reaction in India if Kohli or somebody were to prefer their commitment to a Big Bash franchise over playing a Test for India.

  • Kashi0127 on May 30, 2014, 5:12 GMT

    Not going to test match is like a soldier saying I am not going to war front (Test Cricket) because I am helping direct traffic in my hometown (IPL)

  • Kashi0127 on May 30, 2014, 5:10 GMT

    @Raghunathan Sreekrishnan What a ridiculous way of looking at cricket. One has a chance to play for his country at the highest level in TESTS and the other opportunity is to represent in a T20 match of a tournament (IPL) that does not even have a formal recognition and representing a team that is so very foreign. I am a supporter of KKR but any day would support a player who has a chance to get into the 15 member team of test (even if he is unlikely to be in playing 11) over some entertainer called IPL.

  • Nadeem1976 on May 30, 2014, 5:09 GMT

    WI should allow Narine to play IPL final. He is best IPL bowler ever. He is biggest threat in IPL history. WI should be proud of his performance. WI cricket demise is due to their lack of management inside WI board. They just care about them selves and forget about their premium players. If Narine is not going to play the final then he will become another KP. sad.

  • anver777 on May 30, 2014, 5:08 GMT

    IPL or COUNTRY ?? no wonder KKR desperately need Narine for Final.... its a tough decision to make !!!

  • on May 30, 2014, 5:08 GMT

    @Raghunathan The matches were set before the IPL schedule was set. How can you justify your comment then? As a NZ supporter, I wouldn't like Narine playing but as a keen observer and an admirer of West Indies, I would like him to ditch IPL to play for his country.

  • on May 30, 2014, 5:06 GMT

    He should go back to his country, Nations First. He is well aware of the clause (NOC) to be there at least one week before the start of the Test Match. If he started giving people special permission for special occasion for special people, it will create unhealthy situation in the dressing room. A player cannot be highest than his team and his country, IPL is just a League..

    Look at Gayle, he is lost track by playing good only-in-IPL, he's not serving WI team as he should be.

  • Siva_Bala75 on May 30, 2014, 4:58 GMT

    KKR can afford a charter flight direct from Bangalore to the Caribbeans. He will then be delayed by a few hours only.

  • regofpicton on May 30, 2014, 4:52 GMT

    As Narine was only picked for the third of the three tests in NZ last December (when he took 6 for 91 in the first innings!) it must be tempting foe him to choose the IPL final. Talk of "loyalty" is all too easy. But isn't it a two way street?

  • on May 30, 2014, 4:32 GMT

    "He added then that there were no scheduled matches or tours in 2014 during the period of the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) or the Indian Premier League (IPL). "

    So according to Muirhead there should be no issue right?

  • on May 30, 2014, 4:20 GMT

    This is one reason why West Indies cricket is lagging behind despite having good players. Players need to be more loyal to their nation and their first priority should be to play for the national team no matter what.

  • Rally_Windies on May 30, 2014, 4:20 GMT

    TheMiddleStump

    please stop commenting on matters you are limited in knowledge off ...

    when you speak of West Indian spinners and you don't mention Nikita Miller even once...

    then you are seriously lacking in information !

    I am Trinidadian, I think Narine is great ...

    But Narine, Miller , Shillingfors, Permaul and Bishoo ... have all been lucky as hell to play so many test games and Miller just to have 1 test 6 years ago during the player strike ....

    Miller has not just been the # 1 Spinner... but the # 1 BOWLER for 6 straight years and bowled Jamaica to 5 Regional titles ...

    Just as Narine is the # 1 20/20 bowler in the West Indies = Best 20/20 bowler in the world Miller could be the Best Test Spinner in the world ....

    I don't care how bad the batsmen are and the pitches favor spin .. taking 40 wickets at 8 runs per wicket (yes 8) is INSANELY GOOD !

  • Udendra on May 30, 2014, 4:15 GMT

    Narine is ordinary in tests anyway. Better play IPL.

  • on May 30, 2014, 4:14 GMT

    very strange.u play for 45 days in IPL.But when u get to play the final,ur country needs u.West indies board should be magnanimous to Naraine and allow him to join after JUNE 1 final.ON THE FUNNY SIDE,if kkr fields first,he could fly after bowling his quota of 4 overs.

  • Rally_Windies on May 30, 2014, 4:14 GMT

    2 year ban.... to make sure Shilly can play 2 more years ...

  • TheMiddleStump on May 30, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    Shillingford is the first choice spinner is any case and Benn is a more than capable spinner. Shillingford bowls right-arm offspin and Benn bowls left-arm offspin plus they both get extraordinary bounce from any pitch due to their height. In my opinion this combo would be more lethal than Shillingford and Narine. Samuels as 3rd spinner makes the spin attack one-dimensional with all three spinners bowling right-arm offspin so the variety is welcomed. And while Benn and Shillingford get bounce and turn, Roach and Taylor will be skiddy with their pace and movement. That skiddy trajectory will make these tall spinners even more potent as the batsmen will be indecisive on the front foot resulting in more LBWs and caught behinds.

    Both Shillingford and Benn are over 30 so Narine doesn't need to worry, he'll be the first choice Test spinner for WI very soon with Permaul and Bishoo as his understudies.

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  • TheMiddleStump on May 30, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    Shillingford is the first choice spinner is any case and Benn is a more than capable spinner. Shillingford bowls right-arm offspin and Benn bowls left-arm offspin plus they both get extraordinary bounce from any pitch due to their height. In my opinion this combo would be more lethal than Shillingford and Narine. Samuels as 3rd spinner makes the spin attack one-dimensional with all three spinners bowling right-arm offspin so the variety is welcomed. And while Benn and Shillingford get bounce and turn, Roach and Taylor will be skiddy with their pace and movement. That skiddy trajectory will make these tall spinners even more potent as the batsmen will be indecisive on the front foot resulting in more LBWs and caught behinds.

    Both Shillingford and Benn are over 30 so Narine doesn't need to worry, he'll be the first choice Test spinner for WI very soon with Permaul and Bishoo as his understudies.

  • Rally_Windies on May 30, 2014, 4:14 GMT

    2 year ban.... to make sure Shilly can play 2 more years ...

  • on May 30, 2014, 4:14 GMT

    very strange.u play for 45 days in IPL.But when u get to play the final,ur country needs u.West indies board should be magnanimous to Naraine and allow him to join after JUNE 1 final.ON THE FUNNY SIDE,if kkr fields first,he could fly after bowling his quota of 4 overs.

  • Udendra on May 30, 2014, 4:15 GMT

    Narine is ordinary in tests anyway. Better play IPL.

  • Rally_Windies on May 30, 2014, 4:20 GMT

    TheMiddleStump

    please stop commenting on matters you are limited in knowledge off ...

    when you speak of West Indian spinners and you don't mention Nikita Miller even once...

    then you are seriously lacking in information !

    I am Trinidadian, I think Narine is great ...

    But Narine, Miller , Shillingfors, Permaul and Bishoo ... have all been lucky as hell to play so many test games and Miller just to have 1 test 6 years ago during the player strike ....

    Miller has not just been the # 1 Spinner... but the # 1 BOWLER for 6 straight years and bowled Jamaica to 5 Regional titles ...

    Just as Narine is the # 1 20/20 bowler in the West Indies = Best 20/20 bowler in the world Miller could be the Best Test Spinner in the world ....

    I don't care how bad the batsmen are and the pitches favor spin .. taking 40 wickets at 8 runs per wicket (yes 8) is INSANELY GOOD !

  • on May 30, 2014, 4:20 GMT

    This is one reason why West Indies cricket is lagging behind despite having good players. Players need to be more loyal to their nation and their first priority should be to play for the national team no matter what.

  • on May 30, 2014, 4:32 GMT

    "He added then that there were no scheduled matches or tours in 2014 during the period of the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) or the Indian Premier League (IPL). "

    So according to Muirhead there should be no issue right?

  • regofpicton on May 30, 2014, 4:52 GMT

    As Narine was only picked for the third of the three tests in NZ last December (when he took 6 for 91 in the first innings!) it must be tempting foe him to choose the IPL final. Talk of "loyalty" is all too easy. But isn't it a two way street?

  • Siva_Bala75 on May 30, 2014, 4:58 GMT

    KKR can afford a charter flight direct from Bangalore to the Caribbeans. He will then be delayed by a few hours only.

  • on May 30, 2014, 5:06 GMT

    He should go back to his country, Nations First. He is well aware of the clause (NOC) to be there at least one week before the start of the Test Match. If he started giving people special permission for special occasion for special people, it will create unhealthy situation in the dressing room. A player cannot be highest than his team and his country, IPL is just a League..

    Look at Gayle, he is lost track by playing good only-in-IPL, he's not serving WI team as he should be.