New Zealand in Australia 2011-12 November 25, 2011

Five Australia players ruled out of first NZ Test

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Shane Watson, Ryan Harris, Shaun Marsh, Mitchell Johnson and Pat Cummins will all miss Australia's first Test against New Zealand, leaving the national selectors to fill plenty of gaps ahead of the squad announcement on Saturday.

All five players are carrying injuries and will be unavailable for the national selector John Inverarity and his panel to consider. Watson has a hamstring strain, Marsh a back ailment, Harris a pelvis problem, Johnson an injured foot and Cummins a bruised heel.

"We unfortunately suffered some injuries during the recent Test series against South Africa. With such a short turnaround time between series, five players who were involved in the series will not fully recover in time to play the first Test against New Zealand," Pat Howard, the CA team performance manager, said.

Decisions on the futures of Ricky Ponting and Brad Haddin will be deferred by the injuries, giving the duo a further chance to shore up their spots. Ponting said the volume of injuries reminded him of an ODI tour of India in 2009, when the list of unavailable players touched double figures.

"This is obviously a really testing time for the depth of Australian cricket," Ponting said at the SCG. "A lot of the guys that will be considered [as replacements] have been in and around our squad the last couple of years anyway because we've had a fair share of guys, fast bowlers especially, who have been injured the last little bit. It's something we'll have to cope with.

"With the A game going on at the moment and the Shield game just starting out the back here I'm sure the selectors will be looking long and hard at a lot of those players playing in those couple of games. By the time they're ready to announce the squad for Brisbane, I'm sure we'll have a very competitive XI come Thursday."

While the list of players ruled out reflected the hideously cramped nature of the international schedule in 2011, Ponting said it also had a little to do with the fact the New Zealand series was being followed by a major four-match contest against India.

"That's the way it's been for the last six or seven years in Australian cricket and that's why we've had the turnover of players that we did," Ponting said. "You have a look at the time I was captain. I don't know how many debutants I had compared to what we had the previous 10 years before that but I think that's just international cricket.

"I dont know if it's ever too much but I've said for the last few years you can't fit any more in, it's as simple as that. The international programme is so full and to have what we've just had at that time of year and to come back to an Australian summer that's as busy as it is, I'm sure by the end of the summer we'll have a few more guys that are looking for a bit of a break.

"The management thing around our group is crucial and we have to make sure that we've got all of our guys fit and healthy for when the really big series comes around. There's no doubt after we play New Zealand in the next two Test matches, the next series that we play is a very big one against India."

Marsh and Watson are expected to be some chance of playing in the second Test of the series in Hobart, but the futures of Harris, Johnson and Cummins are less clear. Cummins' heel problem is expected to be given plenty of recovery time as CA is very conscious of not burning out the 18-year-old after his stunning Test debut in South Africa.

"Pat Cummins experienced left heel pain towards the end of the second innings in his debut Test match. He had scans that have cleared him of any serious injury but we don't expect that he will fully recover in time," Alex Kountouris, the Australian team physio, said. "He will be reviewed early next week to determine his workload plan for the summer."

Johnson's foot injury, sustained during the second innings of the Johannesburg Test, has resulted in considerable swelling, and he will consult a foot specialist before plans are made for his recovery.

"His foot was considerably swollen and painful after the game but he is showing early signs of improvement. He will not return to training in time to be fit for the Gabba," Kountouris said. "His return to training and playing will be clearer in coming days after he is assessed by a foot specialist in Perth and the swelling has had a chance to resolve."

Harris is yet to bowl again after missing the second Test due to his pelvis injury, and his recovery will continue to be monitored.

"He is making good progress but has not returned to bowling as yet and is therefore unavailable to play the first Test against New Zealand," Kountouris said. "A decision on his return to training will be made early next week and will determine his return to playing."

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • zenboomerang on November 28, 2011, 0:42 GMT

    @AidanFX... Agree... most comments about Warner talk about his 20/20 style from 3 years ago... Yes, NSW have lost many good players because they didn't give them a go in their SS squad... But also a problem with how SS is set up - we really need 8-10 teams as population wise Tas, WA, SA & Qld can easily fit into NSW... Maybe 2 teams from NZ like Rugby & Netball...

  • zenboomerang on November 28, 2011, 0:41 GMT

    @Brannavan Ramachandran... "missing our 4 best bowler and two best batsmen"... lol... you are joking aren't you?... Johnson leaks runs & rarely gets a 3for & then mainly tailenders... Marsh has proven OK in just a few Test matches, give him 20 Tests & then bring him up - he is also injury prone & would have played for Aust years ago if not for continuing injuries... Harris is another in the same boat - great when he is 100% fit otherwise useless to team... Cummins will continue to be mothballed at even the slightest injury concern - his bruised heal is very minor & most past bowlers wouldn't even have been bothered to even report it... Watson since becoming VC of Oz has had a form slump & is being ruined physically & mentally by being forced to open the batting...

  • AidanFX on November 26, 2011, 7:37 GMT

    @ Neville - You are ignornat of how well Warner has performed in shorter & LONGER forms of the game in recent seasons... He has performed particularly well at Shield level this yr... playing so well as an opener in the Champions League must have also helped his cause greatly. Warner is the next best candidate. Quite frankly Warner may have been available earlier if NSW selectors didn't write him off as just a T20 Specialist so earlier in the piece.

  • zico123 on November 25, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    Ricky is so stuburn he will never hang his boots on his own, selectors have to take the hard call on his behalf, he is a burden on the team for last 2 years, Australia have been carrying out of form very old Ponting in the side for last 2 years, it is the reason they are down at ranking 4-5, it is time to blood in youth

  • on November 25, 2011, 17:32 GMT

    There is no point in bringing new players like David Warner and John Pattinson in the squad... Warner hasn't been a regular in ODIs so what makes CA selectors think he'll be good in test cricket... In my opinion Watson should be replaced by Simon Katich or Phil Jacques, Brad Hodge could come in place of Shaun Marsh, Andrew McDonald in place of Mitchell Johnson, Doug Bollinger in place of Ryan Harris and Ben Hilfenhaus in place of Pat Cummins...

  • on November 25, 2011, 17:10 GMT

    This is the price of having too much international cricket in a year. Players will get injured. This isn't going to do any favours to the crowd attendances either, when we have a weakened side, missing our 4 best bowler and two best batsmen. To make matters worse we are playing against the weakest NZ side in 4 decades which is even less appealing to the crowds.

  • Romenevans on November 25, 2011, 16:24 GMT

    Where's Bollinger? He's always injured? Looks like he only wants to play for CSK, IPL.

  • bumsonseats on November 25, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    let me get this right, its NZ in australia we are talking about. the amount of players available to nz 2 the aussies, must be double minimum. so lets not have no doubters of an aussie win. then after they win you tell us of your replacement strength. we all know who will be telling us the usual suspects. dpk

  • on November 25, 2011, 14:52 GMT

    Feels upset to hear about Cummins' injury. Hope, it is not either serious or chronic. Keeping him in good health and nurturing him is good for Cricket per se -- not just for Australian Cricket alone.

  • Cleon on November 25, 2011, 13:54 GMT

    Are we forgetting that johnson helped pull or butts out of the last test. So his bowling has been off for awhile a long while he is not getting the wickets he is paid to get but he is not too bad not that expensive and his line was better the last game. His swing was certainly there.

  • zenboomerang on November 28, 2011, 0:42 GMT

    @AidanFX... Agree... most comments about Warner talk about his 20/20 style from 3 years ago... Yes, NSW have lost many good players because they didn't give them a go in their SS squad... But also a problem with how SS is set up - we really need 8-10 teams as population wise Tas, WA, SA & Qld can easily fit into NSW... Maybe 2 teams from NZ like Rugby & Netball...

  • zenboomerang on November 28, 2011, 0:41 GMT

    @Brannavan Ramachandran... "missing our 4 best bowler and two best batsmen"... lol... you are joking aren't you?... Johnson leaks runs & rarely gets a 3for & then mainly tailenders... Marsh has proven OK in just a few Test matches, give him 20 Tests & then bring him up - he is also injury prone & would have played for Aust years ago if not for continuing injuries... Harris is another in the same boat - great when he is 100% fit otherwise useless to team... Cummins will continue to be mothballed at even the slightest injury concern - his bruised heal is very minor & most past bowlers wouldn't even have been bothered to even report it... Watson since becoming VC of Oz has had a form slump & is being ruined physically & mentally by being forced to open the batting...

  • AidanFX on November 26, 2011, 7:37 GMT

    @ Neville - You are ignornat of how well Warner has performed in shorter & LONGER forms of the game in recent seasons... He has performed particularly well at Shield level this yr... playing so well as an opener in the Champions League must have also helped his cause greatly. Warner is the next best candidate. Quite frankly Warner may have been available earlier if NSW selectors didn't write him off as just a T20 Specialist so earlier in the piece.

  • zico123 on November 25, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    Ricky is so stuburn he will never hang his boots on his own, selectors have to take the hard call on his behalf, he is a burden on the team for last 2 years, Australia have been carrying out of form very old Ponting in the side for last 2 years, it is the reason they are down at ranking 4-5, it is time to blood in youth

  • on November 25, 2011, 17:32 GMT

    There is no point in bringing new players like David Warner and John Pattinson in the squad... Warner hasn't been a regular in ODIs so what makes CA selectors think he'll be good in test cricket... In my opinion Watson should be replaced by Simon Katich or Phil Jacques, Brad Hodge could come in place of Shaun Marsh, Andrew McDonald in place of Mitchell Johnson, Doug Bollinger in place of Ryan Harris and Ben Hilfenhaus in place of Pat Cummins...

  • on November 25, 2011, 17:10 GMT

    This is the price of having too much international cricket in a year. Players will get injured. This isn't going to do any favours to the crowd attendances either, when we have a weakened side, missing our 4 best bowler and two best batsmen. To make matters worse we are playing against the weakest NZ side in 4 decades which is even less appealing to the crowds.

  • Romenevans on November 25, 2011, 16:24 GMT

    Where's Bollinger? He's always injured? Looks like he only wants to play for CSK, IPL.

  • bumsonseats on November 25, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    let me get this right, its NZ in australia we are talking about. the amount of players available to nz 2 the aussies, must be double minimum. so lets not have no doubters of an aussie win. then after they win you tell us of your replacement strength. we all know who will be telling us the usual suspects. dpk

  • on November 25, 2011, 14:52 GMT

    Feels upset to hear about Cummins' injury. Hope, it is not either serious or chronic. Keeping him in good health and nurturing him is good for Cricket per se -- not just for Australian Cricket alone.

  • Cleon on November 25, 2011, 13:54 GMT

    Are we forgetting that johnson helped pull or butts out of the last test. So his bowling has been off for awhile a long while he is not getting the wickets he is paid to get but he is not too bad not that expensive and his line was better the last game. His swing was certainly there.

  • bumsonseats on November 25, 2011, 13:52 GMT

    can we have a raffle to see who the next aussie to go down, show ponies at best. dpk

  • timmyw on November 25, 2011, 12:48 GMT

    @ Leanne Bentley - I agree 100%. I think India will win this series. They look to have a decent bowling line up and possibly the most powerful batting line up and potentially powerful batting line up in the world with their youngins. I know what you are going to say... what about India in England? Well, Australia is different conditions and Australia's bowling certainly isn't anywhere near the caliber of England's attack. I am predicting a 1 or 2-0 score line India's way with one or two wash outs. India will win in Adelaide and Sydney barring El Nina. That's my pick

  • seagrip on November 25, 2011, 12:38 GMT

    That is just awful. Possibly the worst aus bowling attack for 30 years Copeland aside. Siddle and Hilfenhaus have had more lives than a black cat. What have we got to do to shake these mediocre players from the team?? I thought Hilditch going would be the end of this madness. Players who have promise (and much better first class records to boot) like Butterworth need to be given a FIRST chance (or multiple like sid and hilf), surely this is the perfect time. Even players like McDonald who have been given a small chance has shown more in his few games than these same old medicore players who have been given extended and repeated chances only to come up short. Siddle, Lyon and Hilf in teh same attack......noooooooooo!!!! Pattinson doesnt inspire me either.

  • SirViv1973 on November 25, 2011, 12:17 GMT

    What has happened to Big Mitch the last few years?. When this guy bursted on the scene in 2006/07 it looked like the future of Australian fast bowling was in safe hands. During the ashes series last winter he became a figure of fun for the travelling barmy army and just seems to be getting worst and worst. I read a stat that his bowling average is 42.00 over the past 18 months I can't really think of any other fast bowlers who have performed that badly and are still an automatic choice. I guess the fact that he bats a bit has helped him keep his place but surley the time has come for CA to send him back to shield cricket to try and get him discover what made him such a prospect only a few years ago. Perhaps a stint in county cricket could help him next year (that's if any counties want him).

  • ANT252922 on November 25, 2011, 11:38 GMT

    Surely time for Chris Rogers to come back in. 50 first class 100's. Average over 50. Don't know how Hughes and Warner have got in ahead of him????

  • on November 25, 2011, 11:23 GMT

    I'm reading that Harris and Watson are hopeful of playing (Watson as a specialist bat only, Harris playing Grade this weekend apparently).......

  • roastin on November 25, 2011, 11:03 GMT

    ...and there's also Peter George who's looking pretty good in the fast bowling department about now. Mitch has had enough chances and he's been doing ok with the bat in recent times, but is that why he's being kept in the team?

  • NRI- on November 25, 2011, 10:39 GMT

    That's four injuries, not five. Mitch Johnson should no longer be in contention for tests after years of non-performance excluding Perth.

  • OutCast on November 25, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    Does this article talks about women's cricket or men's- given the mass of injury to players?

  • domwmacdonald on November 25, 2011, 10:07 GMT

    I wouldn't say hard times for Australia. This is there own making! Some players have some small injuries in there team, they are about to drop some players, they have 4 home tests against India coming up and they are about to play new Zealand.

    They are going to rest the injured players for the up coming India tour. In doing that they can give the pointing and haddins one last chance and if they don't deliver they are gone. They can blood some new players with some test cricket for the future.

    If you ask me this is a well thought-out plan!

  • Matt. on November 25, 2011, 9:53 GMT

    come on warner, show hughes how to bat!

  • lekharaj on November 25, 2011, 9:52 GMT

    Its high time NZ team improves. Following them from last two decades and they have been same average team. NZ should get more bowlers who can take wickets outside NZ otherwise even this mediocre AUS team will have a great time beating them!

  • Valavan on November 25, 2011, 9:45 GMT

    @Akhil Atur, India winning series in Australia. You have right to dream dream onnn

  • on November 25, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    Bollinger is also injured.

  • on November 25, 2011, 9:07 GMT

    Surely CA need to go back to Katich as the next best opener, and not Warner. Or Chris Rogers. Not sure how Warner got so far up the pecking order.

  • on November 25, 2011, 9:00 GMT

    No Need to Introduce any new Bowler, use Pattersion and Cooperland they perform good enough in Sri-Lanka also Introduce Mictcheal Marsh in place of Shane Watson, he is decent pace and good batting ability

  • on November 25, 2011, 8:43 GMT

    I hope that's the last I have to see of Johnson. What a shame Ponting and Haddin are fighting fit.

  • on November 25, 2011, 8:42 GMT

    Why is Jhonson keeping his place in the squad...is he seriously being considered an al llrounder (although his 40* in the last test was a once-in-a- lifetime innings) especially by a No:8 what about his lack of wickets in SA of all places...Consider this..Mitch did score 40 not out BUT he contributed massively to Aus chasing more than 250-260..any takers ???will he able to make up for lack of impact with the ball with his batting......

  • SamAsh07 on November 25, 2011, 8:23 GMT

    There is still Bollinger and Siddle, nothing is lost. Where is Stuart Clark? Even though he is old and lacks pace, he was one helluvan accuracy.

  • on November 25, 2011, 8:11 GMT

    well 5 are injured may as well drop ponting and haddin as well, include 7 new players along with Hussey, Hughes. Khawaja and Lyon. Warner to open batting, wade to wicket keep, Pattinson and Copeland to fill in the bowling but who will play the allrounder role??? Dan Christian? Mitch Marsh? Luke Butterworth? Glen Maxwell( bit of X factor) or would australia go for a specialist batsman that would leave them a bowler down but would sure up the batting, if so maybe Callum Ferguson or would they go in with 5 bowlers?? (unlikely)

  • diteras on November 25, 2011, 8:08 GMT

    ...of course this was completely predictable. Asking Watson to bowl at all is an invitation to physiotherapy - always was, always will be.Cummins? Well - if you need a boy to do a mans job, then don't be surprised when he runs home to mummy every so often for a cuddle. Harris injured isn't news - it's just his carer summary. Johnson might not have played anyway - unless Clarke had begged the selectors for his mate's career. So that just leaves Marsh who was hardly an instant pick. Australia should be rotating the young seamers anyway - these ''injuries '' could be summed up by the headline - ''Watson out - a bit of an inconvenience''. Thats all. The team might be better otherwise.

  • Y2SJ on November 25, 2011, 7:55 GMT

    Looks like Cummins might join the Shane Bond club - Players who missed more tests due to fitness than they played.

  • on November 25, 2011, 7:48 GMT

    It seems to me that once again, as has happened many times before, the Australians are not taking NZ very seriously, and are using at least the 1st test to rest some top players before the India series. I hope NZ are able to beat them and maybe they will regret this policy.

  • DazTaylor on November 25, 2011, 7:44 GMT

    I am no Aussie but @Gupta Ankar'c comment "Speaks volumes about the Australia fitness levels" is just laughable and reeks of hypocrisy. Remind me how many injuries India have had in 2011?

  • Marcio on November 25, 2011, 7:40 GMT

    I don't think any of these guys is seriously injured, but with a busy summer coming up, and with the amount of cricket being played, there's no point in turning minor injuries into major. As has been pointed out, this will be a good chance for guys like Warner and Pattinson. I'm surprised though that Johnson wasn't just sacked. I do feel a bit sorry for poor Mitch, but he just hasn't performed for so long its time to make way for someone new. The selectors might be thinking he'll scare the Indians, but the Indians would be likely to fancy themselves against him on the easier wickets like Adelaide (not sure if they are playing there, but just saying).

  • azzaman333 on November 25, 2011, 7:26 GMT

    Warner, Hughes, Khawaja, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Wade, Siddle, Pattinson, Copeland, Lyon. Not at all surprised that Cummins is injured...

  • FAB_ALI on November 25, 2011, 7:05 GMT

    Young!!!18 years of age!!!full of energy!!!Australia's future!!!and injured after just one test!!!WHAT A PITY!!!!! u know who, dont you?

  • jonesy2 on November 25, 2011, 6:58 GMT

    answer my own question, mitch marsh is playing against NSW as we speak. team should be hughes, warner, khawaja, ponting, clarke, hussey, haddin, marsh, siddle, copeland, lyon.

  • TheLoneStranger on November 25, 2011, 6:57 GMT

    Two tests against the Kiwis, four against India. Why not three apiece? Another brain-dead administrative decision. As for the team, that's now anybody's guess. I'd dearly love to see Katich restored to the team, but it probably won't happen. Warner's a certainty, as is Haddin. Ponting will probably muddle on for another test or two unless he hammers a big one against the Kiwis. I suppose Hughes will also be allowed to continue, despite his technique still being inadequate. Cutting should get a start on his home track; common sense would indicate that, although there has been a dearth of that commodity in Australian cricket hierarchy in recent times. I would hope we'll see the following team: Warner, Katich, Khawaja, Clarke, Ponting, Hussey, Haddin, Cutting, Pattinson, Copeland Siddle, Lyon. (one of the last three to be 12th man, depending on the pitch and selectors' whim).

  • lekharaj on November 25, 2011, 6:57 GMT

    NZ Vs AUS always used to be fun but looking at the sides now its going to be boring. NZ always had good hitters but there bowling looks mediocre to say the least. They don't have wicket taking bowlers except for Vettori and some times Southee. NZ has to score more more than 500 or occupy crease longer to have any influence in test matches. Otherwise even with average bowling attack AUS looks stronger. High time NZ comes up with wicket taking bowlers for away from home matches!

  • jonesy2 on November 25, 2011, 6:53 GMT

    is mitch marsh fit????????????????

  • jonesy2 on November 25, 2011, 6:48 GMT

    holy moly haha couldnt have lost 5 better players as well haha i guess the only question is are they going to go with an allrounder to replace watson? if not then it will be hughes, warner, khawaja, ponting, clarke, hussey, haddin, siddle, copeland, bollinger/pattinson, lyon.

  • Gupta.Ankur on November 25, 2011, 6:38 GMT

    That really speaks volumes about the fitness levels of australian players as a whole....

  • pj3000 on November 25, 2011, 6:36 GMT

    I reckon you're spot on, BazzyKhan (3.10am), although I'd rather see Katich instead of Warner and Starc instead of Siddle. I doubt Pup will have Kat in his side, and Siddle's probably lucky there's so many injuries in the first XI. Incumbency has probably saved his spot under the circumstances.

  • Kaze on November 25, 2011, 6:23 GMT

    This is quite good , maybe they will actually try Warner and give Bollinger a game.

  • on November 25, 2011, 6:06 GMT

    Well, we can surely say now that Ponting has several lifelines to his career. Something tells me that he's going to be scoring some big runs against New Zealand. Cricket world, watch out! Punter is coming for you!

  • saqskhan on November 25, 2011, 5:58 GMT

    Mitchell Johnson, Pat Cummins, Shane Watson and Ryan Harris..all out of the first test..then who will bowl for Australia, Ponting and Haddin???

  • stormy16 on November 25, 2011, 5:37 GMT

    Cummins - Oh no!! this is not what you want to hear from such a bright prospect after his frist test. I am not sure how Haddin is assumed to be safe as a result of all this - that makes no sense. His performance has been poor for a long time and none of these injuries changes that. Harris I am afraid is a problem, hardly able to play more than a test or two in a row. You just cannot go on like that for too long before others run ahead.

  • on November 25, 2011, 5:27 GMT

    they r gonna be fully fit for indian tour :-P

    by the way where is ben hilfenhaus ?? i guess they.should.bring back hilfy and.bollinger to replace johnson and cummims.mitchell starc luks promising with a pace touching almost 145kph will be lethal compared to copeland.

    tim paine deserves his chance too he is too gud for.test cricket but.being masked.by haddin's .paine ,shaun marsh and fergusson are the ones for the future once ponting and hussey retire.

  • on November 25, 2011, 5:27 GMT

    Tough time for Australians

  • Dashgar on November 25, 2011, 5:24 GMT

    Would love to see Warner and Cowan get a chance to come in and make a new opening pairing. They clearly compliment each other well and nearly got a 100 partnership against the Kiwi's. We also need to get rid of Haddin, and Ponting must be incredibly close to the end. Wade got 4 catches and didn't concede a bye for Aus A against NZ. He has to debut next test.

  • TommyJay on November 25, 2011, 5:19 GMT

    I feel like I've stumbled into a parallel universe. I've been following cricket for 25 years, and I'm convinced that the story has the two countries around the wrong way. In fact, I'm sure I've read this story dozens of times, only instead of Watson, Harris, Marsh, Johnson and Cummins, the names should read Cairns, Tuffey, Styris, Allott and Bond. Come on, it's a gee up, isn't it?

  • Gone-4-Six on November 25, 2011, 5:12 GMT

    I would like to see Tom Cooper come into the team. He's been in some really good form lately.

  • on November 25, 2011, 5:09 GMT

    Cummins at 18, with a total of 4 FC and 5 List A games, already injured! Bodes well for the future and speaks highly of the Australian fitness and medical staff!

  • on November 25, 2011, 5:05 GMT

    they need a bowling allrounder as they just cant bat siddle at 8

  • on November 25, 2011, 5:00 GMT

    Why Cutting? In the half-progressed Australia A match, he has bowled 19 overs for 1 wicket with an economy of 4.68 as well as 2 no-balls. Nothing special there.

  • on November 25, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    team should be ... warner,hughes,khwaja,ponting,clarke,hussey,haddin,bollinger,siddle,pattinson n lyon.

  • on November 25, 2011, 4:51 GMT

    Watching Cummins bowling on TV the other day I would suggest that if he doesn't sort out a better action he could be in for plenty of injuries in his career. Fast bowler put plenty of strain on their joints without the slight awkwardness he displays. But then again - what do I know?

  • zenboomerang on November 25, 2011, 4:50 GMT

    Good chance for the fringe bowlers to make a mark... perform well in Brisbane & they will certainly be retained for Hobart... Siddle & Copeland will be starters, with Pattison the next pick... depends if they keep Lyon... a Dan Christian type of player would be a handy addition...

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on November 25, 2011, 4:41 GMT

    Noone likes to see players injured but this might not be the worst thing in the world to allow the selectors to take a look at the likes of Cutting and Pattinson maybe. Will mean a reprieve for Ponting definitely but hope they hold their nerve and bring in Wade for Haddin. Also after all the hype on Cummins it also no bad thing to be extra cautious and make sure he is 100% as you know the pressure on him from the media after the last Test would be intense. It's a 6 Test summer so wise not to rush half fit players in. The biggest problem for selection is the loss of Watson's bowling when there also is likely to be a very inexperienced attack bar Siddle (another who is likely to be reprieved as the only experienced bowler available).

  • on November 25, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    Wow, five of the (presumptive) first 11 out... Bowling wise, that only leaves Siddle and Copeland from the last squad fit, so I guess they will play with atleast one of the Australia A squads pacemen to get a debut. Unless Hilfenhaus gets another go, which would be good, as he did really well the last test he played at the gabba.

    Warner to debut as well, with Khawaja to retain his spot... And I guess Haddin will hold his spot, if for no other reason than to maintain a bit of continuity...

    Hughes, Warner, Khawaja, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Haddin, Siddle, Copeland, Lyon, Pattinson?/Hilfenhaus?/Starc?

  • Aussierise on November 25, 2011, 4:24 GMT

    im actually fairly happy to be honest with this to be honest. It will give other guys an opportunity....it will be an interesting batting/bowling line up....and and even more interesting first test line up against india to see how many of these players just walk back in. The selectors will have tunnel vision and the team against new zealand will be no major surprises- Warner, Hughes, Khawaja, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Haddin, Cutting, Siddle, Copeland, Lyon. I would like to see the selectors be bold...and take a few risks...after all we have an ASHES in 18 months that we MUST win back....I would go with 1) Ponting (selectors need to let him off the leash for a final roll of the dice as opener to see if he can add value aka Justin Langer reborn for 12-18 months) 2) Khawaja 3) Clarke 4) Hussey 5) Paine/Wade 6) Christian 7) M Marsh or Butterworth 8) Cutting, 9) Siddle, 10) Copeland 11) Lyon. If we have this team we will find more out about our future...might even unearth an allrounder!!

  • uglyhunK on November 25, 2011, 4:18 GMT

    Funny people complain about IPL.lol

  • on November 25, 2011, 4:10 GMT

    NZ if you don't win now then shame on you and your cricket.

  • satish619chandar on November 25, 2011, 4:08 GMT

    Apart from Mitchell, all are somewhat key performers.. Without them, the bowling attack will look bleak.. Though the Aussies have decent replacements, tough to bank them on them.. This is the best chance for NZ!!

  • PraneethKreddy on November 25, 2011, 3:59 GMT

    Good chance for Dav Warner & Ricky Ponting...

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:56 GMT

    The bowling attack could be Siddle, Copeland, Bollinger, Lyon. James Pattinson could début after his 4 wicket haul. So Bollinger would not be recalled. Warner will make his début after being in sensational form. Look out for the fireworks from him.

  • wardyinoz on November 25, 2011, 3:53 GMT

    so all they will do is replace 5 average players with another 5 average players and still have an average team

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:51 GMT

    sorry to hear about cummins

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:50 GMT

    Well, I'm looking forward to seeing who debuts. You would have to think Warner, Pattinson and Copeland should all be selected. Starc and Cutting have an outside chance of making it. Ponting and Haddin will likely retain their places in the interests of team stability although I would love to see Wade come in. Can't wait! Josh

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:49 GMT

    Hughes, Warner, usman kawaja, ponting, clarke,hussey, Tim Paine, siddle, ben helfenhous, starc & lylon

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:36 GMT

    Cummins too? I suspect that this is going to be the story of his cricketing life. Hope not, though!

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:34 GMT

    So..

    HughesKhawaja/Ponting/Clarke/Hussey/McDonald/Wade (more likely Haddin)/Siddle/Cutting/Copeland/Lyon?

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:28 GMT

    1st test v NZ - hughes, warner, khawaja, ponting, clarke, hussey, haddin, copeland, siddle, lyon, cutting. 12th man - S Katich lol

  • 1st_april on November 25, 2011, 3:27 GMT

    strange....Aus A vs. NZ is being played right now.....and the contest will be an official test next week ;-)

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:22 GMT

    Looks like we can expect something left field now... ruling all of them out this far from the match is left field enough!

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:16 GMT

    Let's hope they are ready for the India-Australia series. Wouldn't want it to be too easy for India to win. Want to see at least a challenge from the Aussies. ;)

  • BazzyKhan on November 25, 2011, 3:10 GMT

    Well I guess the team should now be: Warner, Hughes, Khawaja, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Haddin, Siddle, Cutting, Copeland, Lyon

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  • BazzyKhan on November 25, 2011, 3:10 GMT

    Well I guess the team should now be: Warner, Hughes, Khawaja, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Haddin, Siddle, Cutting, Copeland, Lyon

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:16 GMT

    Let's hope they are ready for the India-Australia series. Wouldn't want it to be too easy for India to win. Want to see at least a challenge from the Aussies. ;)

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:22 GMT

    Looks like we can expect something left field now... ruling all of them out this far from the match is left field enough!

  • 1st_april on November 25, 2011, 3:27 GMT

    strange....Aus A vs. NZ is being played right now.....and the contest will be an official test next week ;-)

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:28 GMT

    1st test v NZ - hughes, warner, khawaja, ponting, clarke, hussey, haddin, copeland, siddle, lyon, cutting. 12th man - S Katich lol

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:34 GMT

    So..

    HughesKhawaja/Ponting/Clarke/Hussey/McDonald/Wade (more likely Haddin)/Siddle/Cutting/Copeland/Lyon?

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:36 GMT

    Cummins too? I suspect that this is going to be the story of his cricketing life. Hope not, though!

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:49 GMT

    Hughes, Warner, usman kawaja, ponting, clarke,hussey, Tim Paine, siddle, ben helfenhous, starc & lylon

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:50 GMT

    Well, I'm looking forward to seeing who debuts. You would have to think Warner, Pattinson and Copeland should all be selected. Starc and Cutting have an outside chance of making it. Ponting and Haddin will likely retain their places in the interests of team stability although I would love to see Wade come in. Can't wait! Josh

  • on November 25, 2011, 3:51 GMT

    sorry to hear about cummins