Mike Holmans August 1, 2010

A swinger's paradise

While Pakistan remain in exile, they could do a great deal worse than make Trent Bridge their headquarters
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While Pakistan remain in exile, they could do a great deal worse than make Trent Bridge their headquarters. Since the opening of the Fox Road stand in 2003, the Trent Bridge micro-climate has been a virtual guarantee of swing. If you are sceptical about how so simple a thing as a stand can have this kind of effect, consider that the MCC specified that all schemes for redevelopment at Lord's had to maintain the present gap between the stands because their computer modelling had shown that without it the ball would no longer swing.

Pakistan may have been flattened in this Test, but that's because Ijaz Butt got it slightly wrong in his pre-match touting of Mohammads Asif and Amir as the best swing bowlers in the world. The best swing bowler in the world is James Anderson, and has been for a couple of years.

While Ijaz Butt understandably went over the top about the Mohammads' world standing, they are probably second and third on the list. The only other real contenders are Zaheer Khan and Ben Hilfenhaus, so it's a limited field. Amir and Asif are streets ahead of Hilfenhaus and at least a few metres ahead of Zaheer. Trent Bridge is Pakistan's ideal Test ground given their current attack - so long as they aren't up against England.

When properly executed, swing bowling is a delight to watch, especially as there are so few batsmen who can play it well; at its best, no batsmen can, and what we saw in Nottingham was almost as perfect an exhibition of top-class swing bowling as can be imagined. The only real blemish was that Pakistan do not back up their brilliant bowlers with even halfway-competent catchers. (They also have some bloke standing around behind the stumps wearing pads and gloves but it's not altogether clear what he's there for, since he’s definitely not a wicket-keeper.) England, on the other hand, have bred a flock of predatory magpies who will snatch anything which flies in their general direction.

Despite the huge margin of victory, it was the fielding that decided the match. England would probably not have passed 180 in the first innings if Eoin Morgan had been snaffled when on 5, and the match would have taken a rather different course, I fancy, if the first-innings lead had been closer to 20 than 200. Every team will miss the odd chance, so whether you can take twenty wickets depends on how many chances you have to create to take them. England needed about 22 to get their 20 successes, whereas Pakistan created about 35 and still only took 19.

That imbalance shows that this series can still be a lot closer than one might expect after such a lopsided result in the first Test. Pakistan were beaten out of sight by Australia at Lord's as England were in 2005, yet Australia won neither series. Should Pakistan give up coating their hands in oil before going out to field, we could well be in for that rare thing in modern Test cricket, a series dominated by the ball.

And what a relief that will be. The ludicrous “Test” played by India and Sri Lanka last week is the kind of farce we have far too much of these days, and Trent Bridge was a welcome antidote to the overpowering sedative of the Colombo SSC.

But, for reasons hinted at in my opening paragraph, I would not have given the Man of the Match award to James Anderson. The company's brochure does not name him, but the true hero was the man from Maber Associates who oversaw the design and construction of the Fox Road stand.

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  • waterbuffalo on August 7, 2010, 5:35 GMT

    I think Pakistan can be officially named as the dumbest cricket team in the world, they called up Mohd. Yousuf, and then they didn't play him, preferring to go 2-0 down, ostensibly, they win the toss, and choose to bat, and what happens? 72, all out, a more spectacular demise than 80 all out, Waqar and Salman should be proud of themselves, well they deserve it, stick with the young batsmen, maybe in the next inngs, they can score 60, I hope Yousuf and Younis don't play, I want to see Pakistan out for 48, might as well break some sort of record while you are over there.

  • GD on August 5, 2010, 8:06 GMT

    Willing to bet that Hilfenhaus takes more wickets than Anderson in the forthcoming Ashes series, Mike.

  • Adwait Parulekar on August 3, 2010, 4:43 GMT

    Mike, u've got it spot on, Pakistan's fielding was the only difference & it has been for quite a few years. The "2 M's" are really good n so is Jimmy. Hoping for a tighter series!!

  • Fan on August 3, 2010, 2:14 GMT

    lol - Pakistan may have been flattened in this Test, but that's because Ijaz Butt got it slightly wrong in his pre-match touting of Mohammads Asif and Amir as the best swing bowlers in the world. The best swing bowler in the world is James Anderson, and has been for a couple of years. I guess if Butt (whichever one) didn't tout them as the best, Pakistan would not have been flattened. Grow up man, and be professional. Also, James Anderson is NOT the best swing bowler in the world, how many times has he dominated an attack - this Paki lineup is not a good yardstick to measure against; also when it swings Dale Steyn is far more dangerous.

  • fahad khan on August 2, 2010, 23:02 GMT

    Wondeful blog mike ! As an extremely embarrased pakistani, I am grateful that you are looking at the positives. I really hope that you are correct in predicting a close series...personally i have pretty much given up on this team. As for my overly defensive countrymen, we dont have to start jumping up and down just because asif and aamer have been called only slightly better than zaheer khan ! zaheer khan has 200+ wickets with a very good record in england, our bowlers have a long way to go still. Not being able to bowl england out for under 200 in either of the innings in such helpful conditions isnt really a performance to brag about. Lets leave the hype for now until they really become conssistently good enough.

  • Venkat on August 2, 2010, 22:23 GMT

    Fine bowling by Anderson, Asif and Aamer.

    Someone (in reply to the blog) has mentioned that Anderson is good only when conditions help the ball to swing - well then let's enjoy his art when he is able to display it. Superb control! I doubt that many of today's batsmen would have been able to face him (at Trent Bridge) with required equanimity.

  • Mukamilahmad on August 2, 2010, 15:51 GMT

    I wana say that asif and amir are the best swinging bowlers because if we see that asif has taken may of his wickets in dead pitches of subcontinent but look at the record of jammy anderson,his most wickets he has got are in perfect swinging condition like sydney,trent bridge and some other grounds.so one cant compare jimmy as good bowler than asif.secondly look at fielding,when fielder misses a bolwr chance,how it feels nd same will happens with asif nd amir.so fielding is very important for bowlers.

  • Wahaj Hashmi on August 2, 2010, 14:24 GMT

    Anderson is certainly a top contendor for the best swing bowler in the world,(only when the pitch suits him though), I agree, but hold on, don't go on calling Aamer as someone "behind him". You totally missed the major point, that the Pakistani batting lineup was extremely weak and inexperienced, arguably even worse than a county side, and it was obviously way easier to get this lineup out than the English, which if you missed from noticing, Aamer and Asif were too hot to handle for what apparently is actually one of the top contendors for the best batting lineup in cricket, playing in home conditions! Easily shows whose task was way harder and who is missing some serious praise inspite of deserving it. Aamer and Asif IS the best bowling pair in the world, and its only bound to get better from here on out. Anderson was delightful to watch as well.

  • Owais on August 2, 2010, 13:33 GMT

    This what I would call recency effect. The best bowlers are Styne, Mitchel Johnson (just consider his previous performances and his over tally and bowling average), Siddle, Asif, Aamer, Anderson, Bollinger, Hilfenhaus, Ishant, Zaheer, Gul, Morkel and Braod. And in preciself in this order. Maybe I might have forgotten a few. I dont know what happend to Sidebottom and Stuart Broad who were very very good just a couple of years ago.

    Dont forget that all four Aussy strike bowlers are genuine wicket takers, way ahead of andersons and zaheer khans. Anderson, Zaheer, Morkel, Gul (and even Amer) all average in 30's which tells the whole story !!!

    So take a break and dont get influenced by what has happened in last 2 months !!!

  • Ajay on August 2, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    don't know why kamran Akmal is still in the team, he was hopeless in Australia-NZ last year and this year he is continuing the same form. I think he needs a break. May be Pakistan could bring in Zulqarnain Haider. Pakistan have a good fast bowling attack but they lack a solid middle order. I guess instead Mhmd Yousuf, they should have included Younus Khan who is already playing county cricket in England. Pakistan team is going through a change, but I am sure they would bounce back strongly

  • waterbuffalo on August 7, 2010, 5:35 GMT

    I think Pakistan can be officially named as the dumbest cricket team in the world, they called up Mohd. Yousuf, and then they didn't play him, preferring to go 2-0 down, ostensibly, they win the toss, and choose to bat, and what happens? 72, all out, a more spectacular demise than 80 all out, Waqar and Salman should be proud of themselves, well they deserve it, stick with the young batsmen, maybe in the next inngs, they can score 60, I hope Yousuf and Younis don't play, I want to see Pakistan out for 48, might as well break some sort of record while you are over there.

  • GD on August 5, 2010, 8:06 GMT

    Willing to bet that Hilfenhaus takes more wickets than Anderson in the forthcoming Ashes series, Mike.

  • Adwait Parulekar on August 3, 2010, 4:43 GMT

    Mike, u've got it spot on, Pakistan's fielding was the only difference & it has been for quite a few years. The "2 M's" are really good n so is Jimmy. Hoping for a tighter series!!

  • Fan on August 3, 2010, 2:14 GMT

    lol - Pakistan may have been flattened in this Test, but that's because Ijaz Butt got it slightly wrong in his pre-match touting of Mohammads Asif and Amir as the best swing bowlers in the world. The best swing bowler in the world is James Anderson, and has been for a couple of years. I guess if Butt (whichever one) didn't tout them as the best, Pakistan would not have been flattened. Grow up man, and be professional. Also, James Anderson is NOT the best swing bowler in the world, how many times has he dominated an attack - this Paki lineup is not a good yardstick to measure against; also when it swings Dale Steyn is far more dangerous.

  • fahad khan on August 2, 2010, 23:02 GMT

    Wondeful blog mike ! As an extremely embarrased pakistani, I am grateful that you are looking at the positives. I really hope that you are correct in predicting a close series...personally i have pretty much given up on this team. As for my overly defensive countrymen, we dont have to start jumping up and down just because asif and aamer have been called only slightly better than zaheer khan ! zaheer khan has 200+ wickets with a very good record in england, our bowlers have a long way to go still. Not being able to bowl england out for under 200 in either of the innings in such helpful conditions isnt really a performance to brag about. Lets leave the hype for now until they really become conssistently good enough.

  • Venkat on August 2, 2010, 22:23 GMT

    Fine bowling by Anderson, Asif and Aamer.

    Someone (in reply to the blog) has mentioned that Anderson is good only when conditions help the ball to swing - well then let's enjoy his art when he is able to display it. Superb control! I doubt that many of today's batsmen would have been able to face him (at Trent Bridge) with required equanimity.

  • Mukamilahmad on August 2, 2010, 15:51 GMT

    I wana say that asif and amir are the best swinging bowlers because if we see that asif has taken may of his wickets in dead pitches of subcontinent but look at the record of jammy anderson,his most wickets he has got are in perfect swinging condition like sydney,trent bridge and some other grounds.so one cant compare jimmy as good bowler than asif.secondly look at fielding,when fielder misses a bolwr chance,how it feels nd same will happens with asif nd amir.so fielding is very important for bowlers.

  • Wahaj Hashmi on August 2, 2010, 14:24 GMT

    Anderson is certainly a top contendor for the best swing bowler in the world,(only when the pitch suits him though), I agree, but hold on, don't go on calling Aamer as someone "behind him". You totally missed the major point, that the Pakistani batting lineup was extremely weak and inexperienced, arguably even worse than a county side, and it was obviously way easier to get this lineup out than the English, which if you missed from noticing, Aamer and Asif were too hot to handle for what apparently is actually one of the top contendors for the best batting lineup in cricket, playing in home conditions! Easily shows whose task was way harder and who is missing some serious praise inspite of deserving it. Aamer and Asif IS the best bowling pair in the world, and its only bound to get better from here on out. Anderson was delightful to watch as well.

  • Owais on August 2, 2010, 13:33 GMT

    This what I would call recency effect. The best bowlers are Styne, Mitchel Johnson (just consider his previous performances and his over tally and bowling average), Siddle, Asif, Aamer, Anderson, Bollinger, Hilfenhaus, Ishant, Zaheer, Gul, Morkel and Braod. And in preciself in this order. Maybe I might have forgotten a few. I dont know what happend to Sidebottom and Stuart Broad who were very very good just a couple of years ago.

    Dont forget that all four Aussy strike bowlers are genuine wicket takers, way ahead of andersons and zaheer khans. Anderson, Zaheer, Morkel, Gul (and even Amer) all average in 30's which tells the whole story !!!

    So take a break and dont get influenced by what has happened in last 2 months !!!

  • Ajay on August 2, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    don't know why kamran Akmal is still in the team, he was hopeless in Australia-NZ last year and this year he is continuing the same form. I think he needs a break. May be Pakistan could bring in Zulqarnain Haider. Pakistan have a good fast bowling attack but they lack a solid middle order. I guess instead Mhmd Yousuf, they should have included Younus Khan who is already playing county cricket in England. Pakistan team is going through a change, but I am sure they would bounce back strongly

  • Skip Harland on August 2, 2010, 9:14 GMT

    Does it really matter who called the Mo's the best swingers? Salman and Jaz, they're two cheeks of the same Butt.

  • Martin Hewitt on August 2, 2010, 9:12 GMT

    Waterbuffalo, there's no bias in the UDRS - if any aspect of the review indicates "Umpire's Call" his decision stands, whether out or not out. I happen to think that the UDRS should trust the technology completely or not at all, e.g. if it shows the ball as just clipping the stump it's out. At the very least, if a review results in an "Umpire's Call" the referring side shouldn't lose a review as well as the decision.

  • Waseem Sarwar on August 2, 2010, 7:52 GMT

    Well I will back Styen as the best, Asif is pretty good as well but Styen combines pace with Swing while Asif lakes Pace. But People like Zaheer Khan or even Aamir are not close to Styen and Asif, Styen and Asif belong to elite category, Jimmy is pretty close as well but Still Styen is best anywhere except dead pitches in India.

  • Southern on August 2, 2010, 4:42 GMT

    Nas ,u cant possibly believe the first sentence u wrote...with Asif playing on the opposite side....he is the best swing bowler in the world...and he operates at 80 mp/h...check his stats...as for the series...even with ripping bowling conditions...Pakistan will be 4-0 at the end...batsmen have minimum patience and zero experience....one man cant save an entire batting line-up. I hope England get a little embarrassment along the way tho...maybe an all-out for under 100...

  • Omar on August 2, 2010, 4:40 GMT

    The main point of this article is lost in the sloppily researched second paragraph. Salman Butt said nothing about swing, as Farhan points out, and so the comparison Mike Holmans is trying to make is one he has baselessly manufactured.

    Please check your facts and quotations, and try to maintain the standard of analysis and commentary that we expect on Cricinfo.

  • waterbuffalo on August 2, 2010, 4:10 GMT

    @ Domzo and others, thanks for your replies, yeah it was Akmal's decision which bothered me, yes he is a lousy wicky and can't bat, but fair is fair, another thing, Pieterson, england's finest bat was hit below the knee roll and given not out, when I was an umpire (club cricket) it was very simple, below knee roll, you're out, I don't care how tall you are, above knee roll, benefit of the doubt, not out, and, as for Azhar, who scored 50 against Australia, if the ball is clipping the leg stump bail, the benefit of the doubt goes to the batsman, Mike has already said said that Anderson is a swing bowler, he swung that ball miles past leg stump, miles, I would never have given that out, plumb means middle and off, not the leg stump bail, as an opening swing bowler myself, I never got a single decision for deliveries going down leg stump. I am not saying England are cheats, they are fine players , but I do not trust hawkeye, and I do not trust the guy who is operating hawkeye.

  • Arsal on August 2, 2010, 3:30 GMT

    welll... kamran akmal haz taken sum blinderzzz behind the stumpzz.....but i gues dat now for the past year or so he haz realy been off colour... and he serioulsy needs a break! wel as far as the UDRS system is concerned i think it is a brilliant thing for cricket and not a disgrace ...... and dozze people calling it a disgrace shud probably learn and gain more knowledge abt it!!

  • Faran on August 2, 2010, 1:31 GMT

    Mike mate do yr research properly it was salman butt who said asif and aamer are best not ijaz butt, lol i doubt ijaz butt knows these two bowlers full names let alone talkin them up, hahaha

  • Naveed on August 1, 2010, 22:49 GMT

    I think Mike Holmans is forgetting that a cricket match is won by both bowling and batting(And probably fielding). Given that Pakistan's batting is nakedly vulnerable against swing bowling, it's never a good idea to say Trent Bridge is the perfect headquarter for Pakistan. There would be no other batting line up more vulnerable than Pakistan's on Trent Bridge, specially against a decent swing bowling line up. Hence I would say as long as Pakistan's batting misery stays on, Trent Bridge is one of the worse picks to choose from for Pakistan's neutral venue.

    [Mike: Since my point was that there are hardly any good swing bowlers, the likelihood of Pakistan's batting having to cope with a decent swing bowling attack now that they'll have got Jimmy Anderson out of the way for a few years is tiny, so your premise does not arise.]

  • Naveed on August 1, 2010, 22:45 GMT

    The best fast bowler at this moment is Dale Steyn. But if we are only considering swing bowling then I would say, the Pakistani trio Gul, Asif and Aamer are way ahead of the pack and Anderson does not come close. Anderson is a good bowler but not in the same league as Asif or Gul. The reason why Anderson might have looked better is because of the absolutely disgraceful level of batting that the Pakistanis displayed in the test against England. If it was Australia batting against Anderson we could have been able to compare the Pakistani swing bowlers against Jimmy Anderson. I for once would pick Asif, Gul, Aamer ahead of Anderson in my team on a swinging track. And I am neither a Pakistani nor a Pakistan's fan.

  • Erwin on August 1, 2010, 22:41 GMT

    Only a Mike Holmans would call James Anderson the best swing bowler in the world. Gul, Asif have been the best swing bowler in the world since long time now and Anderson is a good bowler but definitely not the best in the world. The best fast bowler in the world is Dale Steyn followed by Asif and Gul. Similarly, the best fast bowling line up is South Africa followed by Pakistan. English fast bowling is not as good as Pakistan's. This was exposed when Bangladeshi openers repeatedly hammered English fast bowlers on early summer pitches in England. English fast bowlers looked "really good" because of Pakistani batsman who are at an all time low in test level. I'd say Pakistan's batting is the worst of all the test playing countries right at this moment. If Pakistan's batting was as good as England's, then we could have compared Asif, Gul, Aamer with Andersons and I am most certain Asif and co would come on top. This would be confirmed against Australia in the coming Ashes series.

  • David on August 1, 2010, 22:36 GMT

    Aamer and Asif weren't called the best SWING bowlers, just bowling pair. On a ground that isn't swinging Anderson is terrible and gets hit all around the park. His probably the best swing bowler but there's many more i rate as a complete package to bowl anywhere in the world.

  • Talal on August 1, 2010, 21:39 GMT

    Mike sorry but what u just said about that asif and aamer is slight ahead of zaheed ...i would not even mention zaheer khans name in the leauge of asif and aamer no disrespect to ZK he is good but i think mike u just gettin carried away with anderson. give ireland same pitch and this pakistani line up im sure the result will be the same

  • Shahid on August 1, 2010, 21:34 GMT

    @Farhan Not only the fielding but also the batsmen Jimmy is bowling to are not of the same quality as Strauss, Petersen, Cook, Collingwood etc, whom Asif and Aamer are operating against. Pakistan cricket is suffering from Ijaz Butt and Shoaib Malik. Ijaz Butt is simply retard and Shoaib Malik group is again in power after Afridi retirement. Kamran & Shoaib do not deserve to be playing tests. 3 ys Yousef, Younis, Yaser Hameed and a new wicketkeeper in Zulqarnain should have been included for this tour.

  • Domzo on August 1, 2010, 21:30 GMT

    Waterbuffalo, if you are talking about the Ali decision, then Hawkeye showed it clipping leg stump, as here:

    3.3 86.7 mph, gone, Broad has two and Pakistan are in real trouble! It was full, straight and burst through Ali's defences to trap him on the pad bang in front of the stumps. Tony Hill had no hesitation... Ali asks for the referral and it shows it just clipping the top of leg stump so the decision stands!

    If you are talking about the Akmal decision, which - to be fair was probably Hill's only bad one all test - the reason that wasn't overturned was because Pakistan had wasted their referrals on a marginal decision that URDS wasn't designed to overturn and a plumb LBW). If they hadn't, Kamran Akmal would have been reprieved. England - having learned their lesson in South Africa, were much more canny. I can only assume you are referring to the Trott decision with England, and the reason that was not out was a massive inside edge first onto pad.

  • Farhan Maqbool on August 1, 2010, 20:58 GMT

    @ Mike It is Salman Butt who gave the statement "Without any doubt I can say that Aamer and Asif are the best pair in the world at the moment " he never said they are the best SWING bowlers..... 2nd may b u r right....Jimmy is an excellent bowler but u can't compare Jimmy with Muhammads esp. with Asif unless u can't have the same fielding side.... you had already mentioned the number of chances that Pakistani bowlers created.....

  • Farhan Maqbool on August 1, 2010, 20:48 GMT

    @ waterbuffalo According to UDRS system if the ball is just touching wkts or it is going over the top( all other points are ok) then FIELD UMPIRE decision will be held as it is.... e.g if field umpire had given Azhar Ali not out then 3rd umpire would have given it not out...... hope u get my point. btw i m pakistani

  • Nas on August 1, 2010, 19:28 GMT

    Damn right, Anderson is the best swing bowler who can inswing, outswing and knows how to use the crease to create unplayable angles.Simply he was too good for the inexperienced Pakistani batsmen. But Pakistanis as usually responding emotionally rather than rationally, wasnt Younis Khan part of the team that was shot for under 80 runs twice on the flat wickets of Australia, wasnt Mohammad yousuf made to look like a jumpin duck when he debut against donald n co. Instead of calling these termites back, Pakistan needs to invest in the youth and need to rebuild. And wat explains the selection of Danish kaneria in perfect swinging conditions especially after looking at his contributions in last 3 tests, Pakistan can easily four bowlers seam attack, or even replace GUL with tanvir

  • fromhell on August 1, 2010, 19:19 GMT

    It was Salman Butt not Ijaz Butt who referred to Aamir and Asif as the worlds best.

    [Mike: Apologies. Cricinfo had originally headlined their report naming Ijaz.]

  • Yousef Masud on August 1, 2010, 18:54 GMT

    waterbuffalo, I was kinda surprised at that too (you're refering to the Azhar Ali decision, right?).

    I think the on-field decision is given 'priority'. If the UDRS replay is REALLY close and could have gone either way, the on-field decision is taken.

  • waterbuffalo on August 1, 2010, 17:31 GMT

    A couple of points, I think anybody could have bowled that Pakistan line up out, for a country that produced Wasim Bari, Moin Khan and Rashid Latif, Kamran Akmal is the worst wicketkeeper I have ever seen, third point, thank heaven Mohd. Yousuf is back, he has an average in the 60's in England, we'll see whether Anderson can get him out. The England bowling lineup is terrific, but the Pakistan batting lineup is inexperienced, and quite frankly, pathetic. Last point, The UDRS system, how is it that when Pakistan appeals and hawk-eye shows that it is clipping off stump, hitting the bail, it is given not out and when England gets a wicket and hawk-eye shows that it is going over the top of the stumps, the decision is upheld? So when it hits for Pakistan's bowlers it is not out, but when it goes over the top for England's bowlers it is out? What a load of nonsense, it is a disgrace to cricket.

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  • waterbuffalo on August 1, 2010, 17:31 GMT

    A couple of points, I think anybody could have bowled that Pakistan line up out, for a country that produced Wasim Bari, Moin Khan and Rashid Latif, Kamran Akmal is the worst wicketkeeper I have ever seen, third point, thank heaven Mohd. Yousuf is back, he has an average in the 60's in England, we'll see whether Anderson can get him out. The England bowling lineup is terrific, but the Pakistan batting lineup is inexperienced, and quite frankly, pathetic. Last point, The UDRS system, how is it that when Pakistan appeals and hawk-eye shows that it is clipping off stump, hitting the bail, it is given not out and when England gets a wicket and hawk-eye shows that it is going over the top of the stumps, the decision is upheld? So when it hits for Pakistan's bowlers it is not out, but when it goes over the top for England's bowlers it is out? What a load of nonsense, it is a disgrace to cricket.

  • Yousef Masud on August 1, 2010, 18:54 GMT

    waterbuffalo, I was kinda surprised at that too (you're refering to the Azhar Ali decision, right?).

    I think the on-field decision is given 'priority'. If the UDRS replay is REALLY close and could have gone either way, the on-field decision is taken.

  • fromhell on August 1, 2010, 19:19 GMT

    It was Salman Butt not Ijaz Butt who referred to Aamir and Asif as the worlds best.

    [Mike: Apologies. Cricinfo had originally headlined their report naming Ijaz.]

  • Nas on August 1, 2010, 19:28 GMT

    Damn right, Anderson is the best swing bowler who can inswing, outswing and knows how to use the crease to create unplayable angles.Simply he was too good for the inexperienced Pakistani batsmen. But Pakistanis as usually responding emotionally rather than rationally, wasnt Younis Khan part of the team that was shot for under 80 runs twice on the flat wickets of Australia, wasnt Mohammad yousuf made to look like a jumpin duck when he debut against donald n co. Instead of calling these termites back, Pakistan needs to invest in the youth and need to rebuild. And wat explains the selection of Danish kaneria in perfect swinging conditions especially after looking at his contributions in last 3 tests, Pakistan can easily four bowlers seam attack, or even replace GUL with tanvir

  • Farhan Maqbool on August 1, 2010, 20:48 GMT

    @ waterbuffalo According to UDRS system if the ball is just touching wkts or it is going over the top( all other points are ok) then FIELD UMPIRE decision will be held as it is.... e.g if field umpire had given Azhar Ali not out then 3rd umpire would have given it not out...... hope u get my point. btw i m pakistani

  • Farhan Maqbool on August 1, 2010, 20:58 GMT

    @ Mike It is Salman Butt who gave the statement "Without any doubt I can say that Aamer and Asif are the best pair in the world at the moment " he never said they are the best SWING bowlers..... 2nd may b u r right....Jimmy is an excellent bowler but u can't compare Jimmy with Muhammads esp. with Asif unless u can't have the same fielding side.... you had already mentioned the number of chances that Pakistani bowlers created.....

  • Domzo on August 1, 2010, 21:30 GMT

    Waterbuffalo, if you are talking about the Ali decision, then Hawkeye showed it clipping leg stump, as here:

    3.3 86.7 mph, gone, Broad has two and Pakistan are in real trouble! It was full, straight and burst through Ali's defences to trap him on the pad bang in front of the stumps. Tony Hill had no hesitation... Ali asks for the referral and it shows it just clipping the top of leg stump so the decision stands!

    If you are talking about the Akmal decision, which - to be fair was probably Hill's only bad one all test - the reason that wasn't overturned was because Pakistan had wasted their referrals on a marginal decision that URDS wasn't designed to overturn and a plumb LBW). If they hadn't, Kamran Akmal would have been reprieved. England - having learned their lesson in South Africa, were much more canny. I can only assume you are referring to the Trott decision with England, and the reason that was not out was a massive inside edge first onto pad.

  • Shahid on August 1, 2010, 21:34 GMT

    @Farhan Not only the fielding but also the batsmen Jimmy is bowling to are not of the same quality as Strauss, Petersen, Cook, Collingwood etc, whom Asif and Aamer are operating against. Pakistan cricket is suffering from Ijaz Butt and Shoaib Malik. Ijaz Butt is simply retard and Shoaib Malik group is again in power after Afridi retirement. Kamran & Shoaib do not deserve to be playing tests. 3 ys Yousef, Younis, Yaser Hameed and a new wicketkeeper in Zulqarnain should have been included for this tour.

  • Talal on August 1, 2010, 21:39 GMT

    Mike sorry but what u just said about that asif and aamer is slight ahead of zaheed ...i would not even mention zaheer khans name in the leauge of asif and aamer no disrespect to ZK he is good but i think mike u just gettin carried away with anderson. give ireland same pitch and this pakistani line up im sure the result will be the same

  • David on August 1, 2010, 22:36 GMT

    Aamer and Asif weren't called the best SWING bowlers, just bowling pair. On a ground that isn't swinging Anderson is terrible and gets hit all around the park. His probably the best swing bowler but there's many more i rate as a complete package to bowl anywhere in the world.