England v India, 3rd npower Test, Edgbaston, 4th day August 13, 2011

Triumphant England must retain their determination

England's ascent to the top spot in the Test rankings has been swift, but Andrew Strauss's men know the descent from the summit can be quick and humiliating if standards are allowed to waver
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England's coronation as the world's best Test team was accompanied by a pageantry that was atypical at best. As the inevitability of victory took its hold on the ever-lively Eric Hollies Stand, seven Mr Blobbys went skipping down the aisle, shortly before a troupe of thirty monkeys pursued an overgrown banana in a skit that might have been devised for Benny Hill.

Out in the middle, India's batsmen shared in the sense of the absurd, shedding six wickets before lunch to crush any prospect of a rearguard. But all throughout the process, England themselves remained deadly serious, as they closed in on a goal that has focussed the squad's mentality for the best part of two years.

In the end, the scenes were not dissimilar to those at the end of the Ashes, with 11 jubilant cricketers forming a bundle at the point where the decisive wicket had fallen, while two crestfallen batsmen slunk out of the picture stage-right, stunned by the magnitude of the defeat they'd just endured. But aside from confirming what we all already knew, that the Pataudi Trophy was returning to English hands for the first time since 1996, there was nothing especially remarkable about the moment itself. When victory becomes commonplace, as it truly has done for this team, you know you have got a special outfit on your hands.

"It's different," Andrew Strauss admitted, when asked to put into words what it means to be the best. "With an Ashes series there's so much emotion and rivalry between the countries, but this series is very much about measuring ourselves against the best in the world, and hopefully having the opportunity to overtake them. We're very proud of the way we've performed in the last three games - we've been very close to our best, so we are very satisfied with what we've achieved and delighted to have gone to No. 1 ourselves."

There's only so much that can be read into the achievement, however. As India have just demonstrated in a spectacular collapse of resolve, the descent from the summit can be quick and humiliating if you allow your standards to waver. With away series against Pakistan and Sri Lanka looming early next year, followed by a tasty home tussle against the impressive South Africa, England's credentials will soon be tested in no uncertain terms. "It can go away as quickly as it arrives," Strauss said. "You've got to keep looking forward, that's the nature of international sport."

Nevertheless, the speed of England's march to the summit of the world game has been remarkable, especially when you consider what a shambles they had been as recently as the spring of 2009. When Strauss and Andy Flower were pitched together as captain and coach in the wake of the Pietersen-Moores fiasco, their first match in charge resulted in the 51-all-out collapse at Sabina Park, a contest so calamitous it couldn't help but harden the resolve of a buffeted squad. Ian Bell was sent away to box on the beaches and toughen up his act; Steve Harmison and, in phases, Andrew Flintoff were stripped of their influence within a divided dressing-room. On a series of flat decks, the series proved to be unsalvageable, but the only way from that nadir has been up.

From the moment Flower was appointed England's full-time coach, ahead of the return series against West Indies in May 2009, England have won 19 of their 30 Tests and lost just four. More than that, they have won nine of those games by an innings, four by eight wickets or more, and the remainder by an average of 227 runs. The expectation of victory has propelled the side to ever greater heights in the interim, and given them the knowhow to wriggle out of tight corners - whether they are scorelines of 102 for 7 or 124 for 8, such as England overturned against Pakistan at Lord's and India at Nottingham, or outright defeats such as those suffered in the Ashes at Headingley and Perth.

"We've not had everything our own way in this series," Strauss said. "We've dominated this Test in particular, but there were times in the first two when we were behind. But as often happens, confidence becomes a factor in the second half of a series, and we've become more confident as we've gone on, and used that in our favour. In your own conditions you've got to back yourself to beat anyone, especially if you want to be the best in the world. We've achieved that through a lot of guys standing up and delivering when it matters."

How England develop from this point in time depends entirely on the resolve they retain, now that they have achieved that stated aim to reach the top. The omens on that front are promising. Apart from anything else, the squad includes a knot of key players - Strauss, Pietersen, Bell, and to a lesser extent James Anderson - who were in the thick of the action on the last occasion that England looked set to establish a new world order, back in 2004-05. The speed with which that era crumbled was shocking, and yet instructive, for back then beating the world No. 1 Australia was seen as an end in itself rather than a step on a longer journey.

This time around, there are more wide-ranging forces at work. Apart from anything else, England's long-term challenge is sure to be sustained by the depth and quality of its seam-bowling ranks. In any other era, Chris Tremlett's back injury could have scuttled their prospects as surely as Zaheer Khan's absence sank India's. However, he has not been missed for one millisecond, given the stunning contribution of his replacement, Tim Bresnan, while Steven Finn, Graham Onions and Ajmal Shahzad are among the names all pressing for future involvement.

Everything that England has achieved in the past two years, both here against India and in Australia last winter, has stemmed from the totality of their bowling attack - a unit so incisive that England currently hold a 757-run advantage in the course of the three Tests to date. "I think often you play as well as you are allowed," Strauss said. "One thing they do well is complement each other and hunt as a group. If there are any weaknesses there, they back themselves to exploit them."

It's too early to confirm the suspicion that England are the new sheriffs in the Test town - South Africa, for starters, will have something to say about that. But just as Australia's 1994-95 tour of the Caribbean confirmed that their rise had coincided with the decline of the great West Indies era, so the events of the past nine months - the bearding of the Aussies and the crushing of the Indians - suggests that a similar handover is on the cards.

If that is indeed the case, then Strauss is ready to defend his team's new-found status. "I don't think this is an end in itself," he said. "Just bear in mind there are a number of other teams anxious to have this mantle to be the No. 1 side. So I think it's arrogant for us to just waltz our way and assume everything's going to be hunky-dory all the time. We have to get our competitive juices flowing in any series we play, because if your goal is to play good cricket, the rankings will look after themselves."

Andrew Miller is UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • stalkonda on August 16, 2011, 23:38 GMT

    @RandyOZ: Hahaha... you are funny Mate :P but i like your optimism, i hope you are PRAYING for your Aussie team to get back to the Top and stay there for a "decade" lol But producing another Hayden, Gilchrist, McGrath or Warne will not be possible through any Prayers :P For now all eyes would be on how this English Team plays to stay at the TOP. And believe me it would not be as easy as winning the Test Series at home against the Indians.

  • CricketDev on August 16, 2011, 22:49 GMT

    Cong'ts to England for beating India to be No 1. I will agree India where outplayed in all sectors of the game. Question now is will England survive to be No: 1 ? My Answer is Yes but for only Year 2011. What happens when England comes out of there backyard :) this would be very interesting to see. India will come back they have show this with Australia, South Africa, previously England etc Biggest Question now for England would be How Long can they hold to be No:1? Will they play all the games in there backyard? NO Can they be Good enough on other conditions ? I doubt it :) This has nothing to do with India or other countries, This is a question which has to be answered by Team England and all big English talkers, & Mr Donald.

  • YorkshirePudding on August 16, 2011, 12:47 GMT

    @cricfan, basically I'm saying the past means nothing, its what England do now that matters. As I said England were written off prior to thier tour to Australia because they hadnt won in 24 years, they were written of by indian fans before this series, as we hadnt beaten India at in England since the mid 90's. So as I said the past means nothing, its how you perform in the present, this team appears to be up for the challenge, and I look forward to watching some great cricket during the 2012 tour to India.

  • Sudu_putha on August 16, 2011, 8:39 GMT

    To all the INDIAN fans - You have lost the series to end... if u can't remember....lol

  • Chris_P on August 16, 2011, 5:16 GMT

    @RandyOZ . Well said and agree with almost all. However I think it may take us a little longer to get there. Our next wave of good young cricketers are just coming through, but they need to grab the experience that these English have had, and that always takes time. Indian;s future though, to be brutally honest, doesn;t look good. Their bowling is a shambles and their legends are soon to retire whilst most of their yunger batsmen have lost their technique to T20, whicj is totally unsuited to the real game. Their decline will freefall shortly.

  • RandyOZ on August 16, 2011, 0:27 GMT

    While I agree with the poms about the Indian comments. Comments from poms like 5wombats such as "India have no chance at all, none whatsoever of bowling England out in India" make them just as bad as the Indian fans. That is just plain stupidity. While England have a good chance in India, comments like that are just ignorant, especially after recent beltings in India such as the World Cup. I am not supporting India in any way though, and believe England deserve their #1 place. Lets be honest though the poms are just keeping the #1 spot warm for a while until Australia rise again and stay there for another decade!!!! :)

  • CricFan78 on August 15, 2011, 22:08 GMT

    YorskshireP so they havent won in India for 27 yrs and you want me to believe me that they would do so because they won in Australia. What is price of apples and oranges these days? Any different?

  • SaravananIsTheBest on August 15, 2011, 20:33 GMT

    @Dravid_gravitas, Well said mate. @All_who_against_him, if you count sub-continents pitches are batsman friendly, why not ENG couldnt manage a RESPECTFUL tour anytime in past ?? Do they forget cricket every time they hit there, expecting a justifiable answer if at all you;ve one ;)

  • YorkshirePudding on August 15, 2011, 18:44 GMT

    @CricFan78, the anwser to your question is 1984 was the last series win england had in India, I dont see what that has to do with the price of eggs, as England hadnt won a series in Australia for a similar period, that is until 2010/11.

  • on August 15, 2011, 14:19 GMT

    England"s performance since retaining the ashes, is simply superb.The series against Sri Lanka as well as present series against India is nothing but outstanding allround display deserves congratulations and appreciation.Cricket is game of all round performance, any slip will result in fall.After so many years now English Cricket has become the force to reckon with.

  • stalkonda on August 16, 2011, 23:38 GMT

    @RandyOZ: Hahaha... you are funny Mate :P but i like your optimism, i hope you are PRAYING for your Aussie team to get back to the Top and stay there for a "decade" lol But producing another Hayden, Gilchrist, McGrath or Warne will not be possible through any Prayers :P For now all eyes would be on how this English Team plays to stay at the TOP. And believe me it would not be as easy as winning the Test Series at home against the Indians.

  • CricketDev on August 16, 2011, 22:49 GMT

    Cong'ts to England for beating India to be No 1. I will agree India where outplayed in all sectors of the game. Question now is will England survive to be No: 1 ? My Answer is Yes but for only Year 2011. What happens when England comes out of there backyard :) this would be very interesting to see. India will come back they have show this with Australia, South Africa, previously England etc Biggest Question now for England would be How Long can they hold to be No:1? Will they play all the games in there backyard? NO Can they be Good enough on other conditions ? I doubt it :) This has nothing to do with India or other countries, This is a question which has to be answered by Team England and all big English talkers, & Mr Donald.

  • YorkshirePudding on August 16, 2011, 12:47 GMT

    @cricfan, basically I'm saying the past means nothing, its what England do now that matters. As I said England were written off prior to thier tour to Australia because they hadnt won in 24 years, they were written of by indian fans before this series, as we hadnt beaten India at in England since the mid 90's. So as I said the past means nothing, its how you perform in the present, this team appears to be up for the challenge, and I look forward to watching some great cricket during the 2012 tour to India.

  • Sudu_putha on August 16, 2011, 8:39 GMT

    To all the INDIAN fans - You have lost the series to end... if u can't remember....lol

  • Chris_P on August 16, 2011, 5:16 GMT

    @RandyOZ . Well said and agree with almost all. However I think it may take us a little longer to get there. Our next wave of good young cricketers are just coming through, but they need to grab the experience that these English have had, and that always takes time. Indian;s future though, to be brutally honest, doesn;t look good. Their bowling is a shambles and their legends are soon to retire whilst most of their yunger batsmen have lost their technique to T20, whicj is totally unsuited to the real game. Their decline will freefall shortly.

  • RandyOZ on August 16, 2011, 0:27 GMT

    While I agree with the poms about the Indian comments. Comments from poms like 5wombats such as "India have no chance at all, none whatsoever of bowling England out in India" make them just as bad as the Indian fans. That is just plain stupidity. While England have a good chance in India, comments like that are just ignorant, especially after recent beltings in India such as the World Cup. I am not supporting India in any way though, and believe England deserve their #1 place. Lets be honest though the poms are just keeping the #1 spot warm for a while until Australia rise again and stay there for another decade!!!! :)

  • CricFan78 on August 15, 2011, 22:08 GMT

    YorskshireP so they havent won in India for 27 yrs and you want me to believe me that they would do so because they won in Australia. What is price of apples and oranges these days? Any different?

  • SaravananIsTheBest on August 15, 2011, 20:33 GMT

    @Dravid_gravitas, Well said mate. @All_who_against_him, if you count sub-continents pitches are batsman friendly, why not ENG couldnt manage a RESPECTFUL tour anytime in past ?? Do they forget cricket every time they hit there, expecting a justifiable answer if at all you;ve one ;)

  • YorkshirePudding on August 15, 2011, 18:44 GMT

    @CricFan78, the anwser to your question is 1984 was the last series win england had in India, I dont see what that has to do with the price of eggs, as England hadnt won a series in Australia for a similar period, that is until 2010/11.

  • on August 15, 2011, 14:19 GMT

    England"s performance since retaining the ashes, is simply superb.The series against Sri Lanka as well as present series against India is nothing but outstanding allround display deserves congratulations and appreciation.Cricket is game of all round performance, any slip will result in fall.After so many years now English Cricket has become the force to reckon with.

  • Pelham_Barton on August 15, 2011, 13:39 GMT

    Even if England win the current series 4-0, it will be possible for South Africa to go number one by winning their next five Tests (including one in January 2012) before England play another Test match. However, unless India win at the Oval, it will not be possible for South Africa to guarantee the number one spot before the end of the calendar year 2011.

  • vimalkm on August 15, 2011, 12:54 GMT

    Great win England ...deserving No:1(Not saying India never deserved it) but a good team to take over No:1.Hopefully the ODI's be better than the Test. BUT please English media don't spoil this great win by hyping your team more than they deserve.Look what to India!

  • banka on August 15, 2011, 12:40 GMT

    At the moment, England is way ahead than India. And their display proved it all square and one. Now that they have taken the hot spot of No 1 team, the task ahead to them becomes very responsible and difficult. Particularly when they tour overseas and won't get the kind of swing they extracted here recently. On flat pitches such as in sub-continent, or low bouncing pitches in West Indies, they will have to equp themseleves to be same hunting pack when it comes to bowling. On batting, they will have to equip with turning ball and below the knee bounce that will be relentlessly thrown to them. On the other hand, Indians need to re-orient themselves and perform well. They can do it and they have done so in past with the same bunch of players. They cannot be write off so soon. Besides that there is SA and AUS who are rearing to brag that no 1 spot. Well, best of luck to England and other teams to fight for the no 1 spot. Hope coming times bring good contest all around.

  • Herbet on August 15, 2011, 12:37 GMT

    People!! England are going to get smashed abroad?? A much worse team lost only 1-0 to a much superior than now Indian team last time they played there, so what makes you think we'll get smashed next time? Pakistan will also be 'away' themselves this winter, and we smashed them last time we played them. Sri Lanka will be tough to bowl out but they are going to have to find themselves some bowlers sharpish! And South Africa, last time we drew there 1-1, remember? Pre-Bresnan, pre-Finn, pre-Tremlett, pre a half decent Broad, pre the new Cook and heavily reliant on Collingwood rearguards. So if they couldn't beat us then, why would our now much impoved side get 'smashed' there? Plus, next time will be in England anyway? Complete and utter delusion!

  • Yabba on August 15, 2011, 12:31 GMT

    AlanHarrison - England have won Test series in the sub-continent since 2000. They beat Pakistan 1-0 in 2000 and then went on to beat Sri Lanka 2-1 in 2001. Both of those victories came with a far less talented team than they have at the moment. What is so good about Flower and Strauss is that they operate within their own terms of reference and pay no heed to what the press have to say. It is that kind of focus that has got them to No1. If you think they are going to rest in their laurels now then, judging by the way they have conducted themselves so far, I strongly believe you are very much mistaken.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on August 15, 2011, 12:18 GMT

    @landl47, the tracks in India are either flat or spin friendly, it can't be both; that much should be clear to you as well. If the tracks in the sub-continent are flat, dead yadda yadda, then may be you should ask your batsmen why they don't have half decent averages in those flat, dead, batsmen friendly wickets. I personally don't want to call pace friendly wickets as dead wickets. I'm just using the same amazing logic that you guys are using to describe the spin friendly challenging wickets as dead wickets.

  • AlanHarrison on August 15, 2011, 10:24 GMT

    As usual the English media does English cricket few favours. Michael Vaughan on Saturday night talked as though England staying no.1 in tests for an extended period like Waugh's Australia was a formality: the only issue was whether they could become no.1 in ODIs. Apart from England being no.1 in the world in ODIs seeming a very distant possibility, Vaughan ought to remember that in order to maintain justify their position as no.1 in test, they are going to have to win tests away from home against tough South Asian opponents: something England never came remotely close to doing even once when Vaughan was captain. Typical of the hyperbole of the English media: when the team are struggling they are absolutely rubbish, yet when they win a few games they are likely to remain uttely unbeatable for a decade.

  • Idea-Man on August 15, 2011, 8:42 GMT

    Congratulations Team England from all ardent and unbiased Indian cricket followers. The English cricket team deserve to be the No.1 in its Test rankiing (and soon maybe in the One Day rankings as well) and everyone is praising the ECB for its excellent long term planning, so likewise it is fair to say that where praise is due than same should go for stark criticism with regards to India's recent slump and that criticism should be made against the BCCI foremost and the Team later. Its is just appropriate and apt timing for BCCI to come up with what its future plans are (like Cricket Australia has done after a poor show in the recent Cricket World Cup) and how they intend to revive India's rise from this fall. The players are just pawns on any sporting field, but the hands that move them are the one's actually that are THE GAME MAKERS.

  • lsampathl on August 15, 2011, 7:47 GMT

    Its better to say India didnt played well rathar than england crushed india.. Cook was lucky to miss lbw in praveens bowling in early overs of innings and lot of edges later on.

  • maddy20 on August 15, 2011, 6:25 GMT

    Enjoy while it lasts Psuedo-South African English team. Lets see if you can hold it for 1 year or atleast, 6-months!

  • Drew2 on August 15, 2011, 6:15 GMT

    Cpt.Meanster you say that you're a neutral cricket fan but you aren't. You're a big India fan. Nothing wrong with that, but quoting the records of players at the ends of thier careers has nothing to do with India's standing now. You have to ask also, why wasn't India No1 when these three were at their peak. Answer, because there was a much better side around. Now there another one.

  • CricFan78 on August 15, 2011, 4:49 GMT

    Alan Jones do remind us when have England won a series in India, not in my lifetime at least. As for Swanny he has once again proven that he can only take cheap wkts against batting lineups of Pak, BD etc. England will once again smashed in sub-continent, they cant even win against BD and Ireland in last world cup here

  • landl47 on August 15, 2011, 3:38 GMT

    Dravid_Gravitas, either the Egnland tracks are flat or pace friendly, they can't be both. India couldn't bowl England out even once on a track in Edgbaston that was taking spin. This England side is well capable of dealing with anything the Indian, Sri Lankan or Pakistan teams can dish up. We'll see whether the subcontinent teams have any more success batting on their own 'challenging' wickets than they've had on the 'flat', to quote you, English wickets. Just to remind you: Pakistan bowled out 3 times for under 100 last year; Sri Lanka bowled out for under 100 in 24 overs this year; India, yet to score 300 in an innings in 3 games while England have scored 474-8, 544 and 710-7. There's only one description of that kind of match: one-sided. Better start thinking up those excuses for next year, you're going to need them.

  • LivingDead on August 15, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    This tour is not a failure of Indian players but a result of horrendous tour planning and absurd cricket calendar by BCCI. Please make sure you blame the right culprit.

  • Punter-Fan on August 14, 2011, 23:20 GMT

    common Indian fans except the fact England is the No 1 team..they outclass India.

  • Coastaltown on August 14, 2011, 23:01 GMT

    nice to see jonesy2 popping up, you know england have done all right when even he's forced to say well done. Bless him.

  • PaddyRasta on August 14, 2011, 21:42 GMT

    @Hraig Spoil sports the lot of you. Your Laxman, Dravid and Tendulka will probably not be playing end of next year and their replacements proposed so far have looked more like 20/20 or ODI specialists. I for one cannot wait for England to beat India on their own soil with or without your aging greats. India's arrogance and complacency have lead to their being toppled off their pedestal. Face and acknowledge the fact that England is a special team and get over it.

  • 5wombats on August 14, 2011, 20:16 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster; sour grapes. Englands batsmen will crush india in india as you well know. If ONE batsman (Cook) can score more runs than a combined indian Innings on his own in England - how many more runs is he going to score on the indian roads? India have no chance at all, none whatsoever of bowling England out in India. They can't do it in England - they'll never do it in india. India don't have a spin bowler at the moment. Strange but true. SO how on earth are india planning to beat England in India? It ain't gonna happen. See you at the Oval. I have my tickets. Chennai is avenged.

  • on August 14, 2011, 19:01 GMT

    I cannot believe some of the comments on here. Indian supporters should be prepared for a big slide down that table. Where are the batsment to take over from Tendulkar, Dravid and co.? If you say to me that Raina and Yuvraj Singh are Test batsment, well you're having a laugh. And don't get me started on their bowling attack. If they struggle to get 20 wickets on bowler friendly conditions, how are they going to get 20 wickets on flat sub-continent wickets? And in response to the people who question England's performance in the sub-continent, well worse England sides have won in India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka, and this side is the most prepared in history. England have shown during this Test series that they get more out of a flat wicket than India can, and I'm sure Swanny will like bowling on spinning wickets, and we've got a number of young spinners coming through.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on August 14, 2011, 17:53 GMT

    @Rage468, play like England and learn from them? What? They don't have any meaningful wins in challenging spin friendly wickets in India and the sub-continent. All their wins are on flat, monotonous, pace friendly wickets. No disrespect to them. But they don't have meaninful wins against everybody at every place. I'm not even talking of series wins at every place. They don't even have a meaningful single win in challenging spin friendly conditions. Let's see how they do in those challenging conditions and situations before one has to learn from them as to how to play in the whole world.

  • CricFan78 on August 14, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    England are joke in sub-continent, hell they even lost to WI in WI and could only hold on to SA in SA by straws. I will be very surprised if SA doesnt take over as no. 1 by end of the year.

  • Rakim on August 14, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    People saying pace is useless in sub-continent, please check Aussies in SL, they've won 2 ODIs thanks to their bowlers. I'm already waiting for Eng tour of Ind (tho I'm 80% sure Eng'll dominate Ind again)

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on August 14, 2011, 17:39 GMT

    It's not about retaining determination only. It's about performing well on challenging tracks. Now that they played well on the flat pace friendly tracks of England, let's see how they perform on the challenging spin friendly tracks of India and the sub-continent.

  • on August 14, 2011, 17:29 GMT

    England have always been a better side than india as i congrats to the new No.1 of Test Cricket.

  • p4rpundit on August 14, 2011, 17:26 GMT

    lets face it guys england cracked india up.hats off to them.I think india forgot what test cricket is,test is all about patience let it be batting or bowlin.As far as england is concerned the only team left is south africa, 4r them to beat to reign their supremacy over test cricket(bear in mind eventually australia will catch up cox they are australia).

    guys now my question is indian bowlers cant generate pace,nor can they maintain perfect line and length for extended periods of time why do you think that is? coz i am confident sooner or later indian battin will catch up to english,but as far as englands immaculate bowlin is concernd without zaheer we are light years away.

  • on August 14, 2011, 17:15 GMT

    Any reason for the cricinfo test rankings not been updated yet but I see the ODI ranking up to date lol

  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on August 14, 2011, 16:42 GMT

    @Gizza, teams don't get anywhere near the points they should for away wins. And pray tell what does one inconsequential victory at Perth by India, in a losing cause, have to do with anything??? THE RANKING SYSTEM AND CHAMPIONSHIP STRUCTURE IS A JOKE. Like I mentioned earlier some teams can sit and home and boost their rankings, whilst others cannot. Imagine if Man Utd decided they'd like to play 10 of their next 12 games at home and boost themselves to the top of the table and declare themselves the number 1 team. It would be a farce. You need a LEAGUE STRUCTURE where every team plays home and away against every one else. Only then will you find the best in all conditions, all over the world, without complaint. Right now the structure of Test cricket is ancient. It is outmoded, and applying a modern ranking system to that doesn't fit well.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on August 14, 2011, 16:31 GMT

    Congrats to England. The flat, pace friendly England tracks worked in favour of England. Let's see how they handle the challenging spin friendly tracks in India and sub-continent.

  • Herbet on August 14, 2011, 16:18 GMT

    I like it how Indians are predicting a short lived reign for England based on the fact that we can only play when its raining and 4 degrees. That must be why we hammered Australia away (its hot there in summer) then? And who've we got next? Sri Lanka, who's only 3 decent bowlers have just retired, and Pakistan who play test cricket once every blue moon, have had their 2 best bowlers banned, play in front of empty stands and aren't sure which end of the bat to hold. Sure it will be hot, but this team have been touring hot countries every winter since their late teens and will be well prepared. Then what, SA, where the pitches are at worst like Australia and at best like home. Plus, great bowlers are great bowlers, even if thers no swing or seam there will always be line, length and reverse. Plenty of quicks do well outside of England; Glen McGrath, Steyn, even Matthew Hoggard. You're kidding yourselves if you think we are green top specialists.

  • Limegreenelephant97 on August 14, 2011, 15:46 GMT

    england can only win on home grounds even though india did not play well at all let us see england in india and sa and sri lanka and how they do if they win they are true world champions

    i think this is due to the change of coaching gary was a better coach

  • din7 on August 14, 2011, 15:46 GMT

    Lots of Indians here are quite fuming and jealous over england being the No.1. But face it, India never deserved to be no.1, Yes i m indian and am still saying that. India will not be no1 for decade or so. yes we can if we play at home on flat tracks and bring some weak teams and beat them. But the TRUTH is same india never deserved to be no1. Some people r cryin over injury of zaheer and sehwag, face it eng also had injuries to tremlett and trott, then too the winning margin is so big.

  • on August 14, 2011, 15:22 GMT

    First before the series, India going to thrash England 4-0, second, after lords test, India are comeback kings just like in SA, third, after TB loss, Sehwag will smash English bowlers all over the park. fourth, after getting humiliated at Edgbaston, they say wait and come to the subcontinent. LOL Theres always some sort of excuse. This England team is the best I have ever seen in test cricket, subcontinent or not they will beat India. So please bring it on!!! World's number 1 shows how its played.

  • Hingland on August 14, 2011, 14:49 GMT

    Well done to the Indian fans that have taken this on the chin. I hope your team bounce back and show the world what they can really do. World cricket needs India playing well. The fans that are protesting that India were unlucky or saying that England are not a good team should have some dignity in defeat. Some of these comments remind me of the chat I used to hear in the playground at school when I was a youngster.

  • Trapper439 on August 14, 2011, 14:30 GMT

    As an Aussie fan it pains me to say it, but I really can't see us winning the Ashes back in the next few series. In fact, I'd be surprised if we get our hands on the urn again in this decade. This is easily the best England side I've seen in almost 30 years of watching cricket. The depth of their pace bowling stocks, in particular, is quite extraordinary.

  • StatisticsRocks on August 14, 2011, 14:24 GMT

    Congratulations to England on dethroning India from the #1 spot. A well deserved win. I suspect they can hang on to this for long time as I see SA will beat them. Australia will be back as well and don'c count. It hurts to see India lose the way they are losing. Wiining and losing are part of the game but to loose the manner in which they are doing without any fight is not accepatable. Also India is not this bad. Something is not right within the team. They look deflated and lack interest in playing. Don't get me wrong as I am not taking anything from England. I don;t see how we can win the final test at Oval but a draw would be a good result.

  • grahamrd on August 14, 2011, 14:07 GMT

    Forget the rankings guys. Just look at the gulf in class between the two teams. India are not a very good team. Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Pakistan put up a much better fight than this lot. I have been very disappointed with Indias attitude. Kumar shows what can be done with limited ability and lots of heart. Lets hope India can muster some heart in the final test because this series has become plain boring. From a lifelong England fan

  • shovwar on August 14, 2011, 13:44 GMT

    NO KIRSTEN, NO INDIA...SA AND ENGLAND ARE THE BEST TEST SIDE...NO DOUBT...ENGLAND AHEAD IN PAPERS BUT SA LOOKS BETTER....

  • on August 14, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    well its time 4 indians 2 rethink abt his winning combiantion are they still want 2 stick with sachinn and laxman or they need 2 add some fresh blood

  • YorkshirePudding on August 14, 2011, 13:08 GMT

    Being and English fan through the last 20 years has not been easy, often we have turned on the TV, gone to matches where we have been over-hyped, then out performed, and finally humiliated, Finally the Fans and the Barmy Army who have supported the team through these times, have something to be proud off. However, lets not forget India, who still have one of the most formidible batting line ups in world cricket, and deserved to be remember as such, I send my condolences to the true Indian fans and say, take hope look at how bad England was as recently as 4 years after the 5-0 whitewash against Australia, India will become strong again. Do not blame the batsmen, they were simply out played by what is turning out to be one of the strongest bowling line ups.

  • khiladisher on August 14, 2011, 12:44 GMT

    Congratulations to the new #1 team in test cricket-England deserve every little bit of their awesome success.India were the #1 side for 21 months and before that south africa were on top for 4 months.

    Whether england can be world beaters would be known within the next year when they face spin in slow wickets against pakistan and sri lanka&then the biggest challenge when they face india in india.If they win all that we can safely say that the English team is an all time great side.

    AT home england has just 1 more hurdle beating south africa in england{which has not happpened for some time now-THINK THAT THIS ENGLAND TEAM WILL BE THE TEAM THAT WILL BEAT INDIA IN INDIA FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1984-COME ON ENGLAND YOU CAN RULE THE WORLD LIKE WEST INDIES AND AUSTRALIA ONCE DID.

  • on August 14, 2011, 12:40 GMT

    India is surely a better team than England 1 series cannot make England so good team, we have witnessed the decline in the Indian side coz of poor form in Batting and bowling performances, hey guys come on we are world champs, India needs to restart fresh, has to check their fitness levels thats the agenda after the defeat . No team in the world can sustain No.1 position for a long time except Australia and so far India done a fair job. am sure India will hit back in ODI's and T20. England may test their skills with other teams like Australia & South Africa, wait for some time and see England fall and loses No.1 to some one else, the count starts now.................................

  • SnowSnake on August 14, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    Congratulations, England. Hard work begins now. It won't be easy to stay number one. All those criticisms like "bouncy track bullies" "tiger in home games" etc. will start pouring in. So, yes determination will be key to hold onto this rank. India should consider this loss as an opportunity to fire Dravid and Laxaman. Not that they are bad players, but why stick to old players when you get 3-0 result despite of those players? Time to think of the future. Although it will be difficult to recapture #1 ranking anytime soon, India should go back to drawing board and rethink its future from scratch.

  • notvery on August 14, 2011, 11:40 GMT

    @jonesy2 - bitter and twisted all ashes.... and now bitter and twisted for this series. turn on foxsports3 and watch australia v srilanka and leave the test cricket to the decent test cricket nations... hahahahahaha. Good systems? seem to be working ok for the last few years for England. Good cricketers... lose McGrath, Warne etc... get Mitchy, *insert spinners name* and oh no one.... yep looks like a great system that one!

  • aalkool on August 14, 2011, 11:11 GMT

    Well, if the handover does not happen, you will surely use the featherbeds/ flat-decks/ placid wickets of the sub-continent as an excuse

  • CricSare on August 14, 2011, 10:46 GMT

    1 ENG 2 SA 3 SL 4 AUS 5 PAk 6 IND. after the worst whitewash of this century

  • on August 14, 2011, 10:34 GMT

    Cong!!!! England Mr. Kavindeven right that England beat India in English conditions, but also India are only tiger at there own land. just accept that India loss now!!!,

  • on August 14, 2011, 10:24 GMT

    Lot of Anti English comments on here. Face it England are No.1 and I suspect they will remain there for the rest of the decade. They will win in India, Sri Lanka & South Africa and then you will still say they need to do more. Well done England.

  • on August 14, 2011, 10:23 GMT

    Well it's nice to be a #1 team ...............but staying there will be a challenge, Indians r having a horrible time here in English conditions, But there pacers r backing up the bowling --bowling unamount of overs over the period of those unforgetable days that just won't favour them at all. i haven't seen preveen kumar showing off that kind of talent toward the end of there innings throughtout the series sofar. I think they should just let it go and fire from all cornors of the ground, turn the last test match of 5 days into 5 days of ODI. have them have a sence of one day format rather sooner,

  • on August 14, 2011, 10:17 GMT

    @Kavindevan- You said to become no.1 England has to beat India in India and SL in SL. But tell me did our team India beat any of SL, SA, Aus or Eng in their own backyard?We had just beaten NZ and WI away...and that is an amazing achievement...right?

  • on August 14, 2011, 10:15 GMT

    England deserve to be Number one because they are the only nation who prioritise Tests over ODIs & T20. Simple as. As an Indian fan, the manner of this series defeat hurts but we should be grateful for the time we had at number one. There was always the perception that with our ageing batting line up & at best an average bowling attack, that a long term reign was unattainable. What has been worrying is our lack of strength in depth & the inability of our young batsmen to handle swing and short pitched bowling. Our young batters could do no worse than to turn their back on IPL & develop their all round game with a season of county cricket

  • Hraig on August 14, 2011, 9:53 GMT

    Just wait and watch we are in world of modern cricket with India, ENG and SA being top nations. Whatever the result may be India have a slight edge over others but not dominant. Now we have retained no. 1 for 2 years see how long england can retain. As England has to tour Srilanka next for test matches. And there they will be shown their true colors. Also just wait for the Nov 2012 when Eng has to tour INDIA.....

    just wait and watch...........its a matter of time.

  • on August 14, 2011, 9:47 GMT

    @ic181....dont get it to your heart boy...it is true our national side is not at 2 3 4 even at 5...sitting back n criticizing a team with no home cricket is v simple..indian has mostly made frm its own conditions...but their weakness in english contions is exposed..no disrespect for india but england has played the better cricket..congrats england

  • Rage468 on August 14, 2011, 9:42 GMT

    even if gavaskar, kumble, ganguly would have beeen there, then too india would have lost this series. Pitches and grounds dont make a difference. if u hav guts, u have to learn to play in the whole world and beat any team like eng did. hats off to eng.

  • on August 14, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    That is not the end of the day, By this particular series we cant say India is outclass. England have 2 maintain it on away matches. As we know India is Outstanding team in home and quite good in away conditions. But Eng has not that tag rather than India in away series. Anyway congrats 2 the England side 2 make team India totally outplayed in first three matches at their home. But the dont have dont roar much coz they have 2 play with India in away conditions soon. But i dont think England will be able maintain this no 1 tag till than.

  • on August 14, 2011, 9:22 GMT

    Simple summary of indian team...... """he stellar batting superstars and best pace bowler are ageing, the best spinner has lost his sting, and the pace attack lacks a genuine tearaway strike bowler who can run through the top order"".

  • Dozzieus on August 14, 2011, 9:09 GMT

    it makes me laugh, before this series everyone was going...."India too strong blah blah bla" then, we hammer them at lease 3 to something - probably 4-0, and now people are going "yeah but wait until you tour india , Srilanka etc....... We have beaten the best batting line up in the world - FACT- Sour grapes all round

  • on August 14, 2011, 9:04 GMT

    England were far better team thn indian team..lets b honest..!! they were v gud in all d departments..they deserve tat tag..!!

  • on August 14, 2011, 8:59 GMT

    Da great team INDIA lost & lost....an innings..... INDIA u do not deserve da no 01 place............

  • on August 14, 2011, 8:59 GMT

    i think Indians should have done what they did during South Africaan tour. Indians were not good against rising deleveries now they hav

  • CricIndia208 on August 14, 2011, 8:51 GMT

    India have won the World Cup which is the pinnacle of the game. England have nothing to celebrate as they can only go down from here. Anyway England are not good enough to win even a session in India.

  • SriSanka on August 14, 2011, 8:44 GMT

    This is a good lesson to BIG HEADED Indian team and players. Recently(specially after 2005) they were overrated by BCCI money and Indian media. They always under estimated the opposition teams and didn't respect them at all. but world knew Indian team was just an ordinary side. BCCI recently didn't treat their friendly boards well like SL,PAK,BAN. and started to rule them using their money and even tried to overrule the ICC. Because of that all the Asian supporters towards the Indian team has been lost.Instead of that they supported England or any Indian opponents to see the defeat of Ind. I think with current foam England can beat India even at subcontinent in test format without any doubt

  • kancnaic on August 14, 2011, 8:31 GMT

    THIS SEIRES IS THE BEST FEAST TO A HOME CROWD IN TEST HISTORY IN MY MEMORY. 1 ALL THE BATSMEN SCORE RUNS 2ALL THE BOWLERS TAKE WICKETS 3THE ALLROUNDERS BROAD AND BRESSNAN DO WELL 4EVEN THE WICKET KEEPER SCORE CENTURY 5THERE ARE DOUBLE CENTURIES AND A NEAR TRIPLE CENTURY 6THERE IS EVEN A HATTRICK 7THE FIRST BALL WICKET OF THE INDIAN OPENING BATSMAN IN BOTH THE INNINGS(SEHWAG)

  • on August 14, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    Good performance by Stuart Board, Bresnan,Piterson, Prior, Cook and Anderson......

    2 good bowling and good batting all-rounders in England team................. like 2 Flintoffs................................. Great!!!!!!!!

  • kancnaic on August 14, 2011, 8:08 GMT

    INDIA WERE VERY PROUD OF BEING NO1 UNTIL THEY TOURED ENGLAND.NOW IT IS THE TIME FOR ENGLAND.LET THEM BE HAPPY UNTIL THEY TOUR INDIA

  • Guru1234 on August 14, 2011, 7:25 GMT

    In the days of competitive cricket.. India has done a commanding job of staying Upright for 2 years(lets see if this English team can near that), I am proud off that, for everyone whining out there and everyone who boast of coming off a age... I shall be waiting for Eng Tour of India.. For various reasons we did not have the best team at one place at a given point of time..All be it, giving the circumstances, brits played well.. This is not the end, we shall give the same feeling what we are gng thr' now, (feel of losing No1 position) come their tour of India.. -- DIE HARD... TRUE INDIAN FAN

  • on August 14, 2011, 7:22 GMT

    congo to england but how intresting it is the same rankings that a day ago were lyingare telling the truth still we are world champions who can take that away from us that is what matters everybody sees who is world champions not who is no 1 in any sport and calling england best team is a joke they are magnificent in test but odis they are nothing and unfournely wc is odi and we all know what england did in wc the best is good in every format everywhere but i think eng will not hold on to no 1 for long i think next year when the play india in india they would have lost it in a period which they play away series in pak sri and india and home series vs sa intresting how much effective eng bowlers are in subcontinent we all say what happened in wc i think eng would lose no 1 spot by time they eng sri lanka series in april to india or sa according to me currently best team in the world is sa they just need to get rid of chokers tag they are good in every format everywhere

  • on August 14, 2011, 7:18 GMT

    evry one sayng is tht ENG deserved the NO:1 spot congrts to the "ENGLISH TEAM" but they cant stay in tht rank for mre than 6 months lot of big series is waitng for them they played their tests in home place nw the real time starts for ENG come to tour in IND ithnk IND has the capabilty of reginng the NO:1 spot in tests any how we r world champions lets cheer up IND "go INDIA go" its time to thnk wat had done come take it lite nd play well in reaming games i hope IND wins oneday series nd says to world tht we r champions

  • Chris_P on August 14, 2011, 7:06 GMT

    @jonesy2. Are you kidding? This team is the result of a great cricketing system initiated by guys like Rod Marsh years ago.They have earnt their #1 spot & are justifiably cashing in. I am with drew2. This team fully deserves their #1 ranking. They have quality bowling back up in depth and quality batsmen & are a relatively young side. Add to this almost no ranking points to protect (India have a huge amount to drop off and will freefall to #5 or worse within 15 months) and a truer picture of the rankings will show through.

  • on August 14, 2011, 6:58 GMT

    Yes, India deserved to lose both no. 1 status as well as the Tests and it may not be the Best Test Team, most probably it''s not . But before thinking too much, I would like to watch England''s performance in subcontinent, particularly in India. It''s easier to gain the no. 1 status than to keep it. For decades England have put heavy stress on Test Cricket and they have gained the no.1 status now., let''s see if they can keep it or not.

  • socrep on August 14, 2011, 6:57 GMT

    further:- Indeed, as one who has a great deal of respect for the Indian batting line-up, the main feeling, this series, has been disappointment and then frustration and then a little bit of anger. Why can these greats of the game not deal with fairly mild english conditions (Pakistan's last tour here had far more violent and pronouced swing)? Where is the discipline implicit in the collection of such amazing personal stats now? And did they really think they could just turn up, unfit, "under-cooked", sloppy in the field, seemingly without back-up plans or players to turn over a very good and determined England side? I consider the no 1 spot a statical awards for recent consistancy, not the coronation of a great team. To this England team to be great (at least a great Englsih side), then they do have to win on every type of pitch. I think they could. Merely saying they definately will or won't without some reasoned back up is foolish

  • socrep on August 14, 2011, 6:43 GMT

    Seems both sets of supporters and several interested neutrals fancy themselves as latter day Nostradamuses. As for weather England's bowlers can be as effective on sub-continant pitches, we shall see. Similar questions were asked of them when they travelled to SA and Aus. The whole Anderson and the Kookabura debate became proustian in its lenght and detail....and then he came away with the best returns of an English fast bowler in Oz since the 50s. One thing we can predict is this. A great deal of preparation will go into preparing this England side for foreign conditions. I hope that they have a Lions tour lined up for this winter, in the sub-continant, so those on the fringes of the first team have the experience too. This depth of preparation and acclimatisation are surely the best way to allow a team and squad to flourish abroad. Something the BCCI do not seem to agree with.

  • DazTaylor on August 14, 2011, 6:34 GMT

    @Kevindeven No, England do not need to win in India and SL to be No1. Look at the table now to pove this. After all, remind me when India won in Australia to be No1?

  • on August 14, 2011, 6:08 GMT

    England don't talk too much.

  • hypocrite on August 14, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    You deserve it Champs...but sterner tests await you....India will return and return stronger!!!

  • Romenevans on August 14, 2011, 5:36 GMT

    So What? India White Washed England in India, when they came here! We'll wait and see how these english boys will play on chennai's bowling and crumbling cookie pitch. Jimmy anderson's swing will be funny to watch in india lol, like he was thrashed all over india in this world cup.

    Rant Apart, Well played england and congrats for that. But to become no.1 you have to beat us in india and srilanka in srilanka.

  • jonesy2 on August 14, 2011, 5:31 GMT

    im sorry england but you cant take a mediocre team to the top and expect to stay there. the only way is down. well done but dont expect it to last. you need a good cricketing system and good players, something england dont have.

  • ShadowofRa on August 14, 2011, 5:09 GMT

    Congrats to new Test World no.., they deserve the position, but it is very tough to maintain it. Let see how India looking forward their lost and their 5th test . If India win that match, Can it bring back its 1st position????

  • on August 14, 2011, 5:08 GMT

    England deserve it. They played marvelous and outclassed India in every aspect of the game. From England's point view, it is remarkable achievement that they got No.1 Rank after a long long time. Definitely, credit goes to Coach Andy Flower........

  • CRICSL on August 14, 2011, 5:07 GMT

    What a humiliation the so called world no 01 will be whitewashed soon. SL played better in much cold cloudy condition early part of the summer scored 400+ scores in all three test matches. IND couldn't manage a single 300+ score in six completed innings. How come this happened? Great batting line up with world's best spinner (Harbajan) and pace bowler (Zaheer) according to the Indian fans. The reason for this defeat is not too much of cricket played by IND team it's their mind set. They need to learn how to respect their oppositions. IND players always taking other teams lightly and this is the right lesson given to them by ENG for them to not to under estimate any oppositions in future. Hat's off to ENG…

  • ic181 on August 14, 2011, 4:44 GMT

    @Rohail Ali: your team is not even No.2, or No.3, or No.4 or...

  • on August 14, 2011, 4:10 GMT

    i still believe,india is the best team,n can come back,india will win d one day series,best of luck to team india,give ur best n play 4 d nation...dhoni just lead ur team at ur best....i believe in team india

  • phoenixsteve on August 14, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    It's somewhat reassuring to hear that Strauss doesn't seem to take this ridiculous "number1" thing too seriously! After all who are they displacing and where would you hoestly put this Indian team in world rankings - based on their performance the past 6 weeks? Certainly not in the top four and argueably not even in the top 7? As for future challenges (including India, Sri Lanka and South Africa) once again they will have to start from scratch and ASSUME NOTHING! Only after success (not the same as victory) can they start to feel a force to be reckoned with? Even then they will be only as good as their current successs. I wish the England boys 'the best of British' and congratulate them on their performances in the past 12 months..... Thank you Captain Strauss and team - you've made this England fan very proud and very happy!

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on August 14, 2011, 4:05 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster. Did you watch the NZ tour of Ind where a very poor and green NZ batting line up drew the first 2 tests? Goes to show Ind struggle to get 20 wkts in their own conditions. The only bowler these days who rips through line ups in the subcontinent is Steyn. Zaheer has to wait for reverse.

  • Gizza on August 14, 2011, 3:53 GMT

    @AndyZaltzmannsHair, if you knew how the rankings system worked you would have realised that wins at home don't count for as much as wins away. And even if you feel away wins need more of a ratings boost and even less points be awarded for home wins that almost equally affect England's points, particularly this series won't be strongly recognised because it is a home series for them. The truth is, the non-subcontinental fan will only trust the rankings system if matches which are held on fast, bouncy or swinging grounds are given more weight than spinning, slow flatter pitches. Sorry mate that ain't gonna happen. But even then India will get brownie points for its win at Perth then. You can't have one's cake and eat it too.

  • Drew2 on August 14, 2011, 3:39 GMT

    Jarron White - Absolutely correct. People are just looking for excuses to bring down the best. I'm Australian and I have to concede that this is a great English team with depth to call on. People should look at "what is" rather than "what if". Australia and the West Indies had plenty of injuries and so called bad luck (there's no such thing) during their dominant phases and they never suffered three defeats in a row like this. Get over it critics. England deserve their status and it will take something special to bring them down in the short term.

  • on August 14, 2011, 2:45 GMT

    can any one say that is this English side survive the top spot for next six months. In my opinion no, i have reasons for this after this series England will play next five test in Indian subcontinent (three against Pak and two against SL).So every one think again this English side survive the top spot for next six months.

  • Cpt.Meanster on August 14, 2011, 2:40 GMT

    @Jarron White: I directed my comments as a neutral fan yet some people think I am an Indian supporter. Well I don't know about the English batsmen dealing with Indian bowlers at home. But have you even counted the number of runs scored by Tendulkar, Laxman and Dravid as compared to your entire England team ? you will be shaken. These guys are legends and are showing signs of mortality finally. Some respect from you Poms would suffice. As a West Indian, we had our Lara. Those 3 are in the same league as Lara. I am scared to think how your English bowlers will be butchered by the Indian batsmen on those highways.

  • BillyCC on August 14, 2011, 2:33 GMT

    There is no true world no.1 at the moment. India were the best of a close bunch in the past two years, but England now have the potential to become the true world number one. Everyone seems to have forgotten about South Africa but England are yet to beat them home and away. England also have to deal with India in India.

  • on August 14, 2011, 2:22 GMT

    Can any one say that is this English side survive top spot for next six month. In my opinion No, I have a reasons for this you know that after this series England will play next five test in Indian subcontinent (three against Pak and two against SL).So every one think this English side survive top spot for next six month . Best of luck for this English side.

  • on August 14, 2011, 2:08 GMT

    Its gonna be a short term stint for England team.... At times, they were struggling against the military medium pace of praveen n shreesanth in this series(120+) .... And for sure they are gonna struggle against the real pace of steyn n morkel who swing the ball at 90 miles .....2 years at the top wasn't just a joke and India should be respected for tat ....

    Englad have depth in their batting line up and tat's their big advantage according to me ...

  • allblue on August 14, 2011, 1:58 GMT

    As no-one else is going to do it, I'd like to put in a word for the selectors. It's the nature of the role to be criticised when things go wrong and not get praised when things go right, but Geoff Miller and his team have been excellent for several years now. They work hard at it, watching a lot of County cricket, talking to coaches, captains and umpires, and clearly have a great knowledge of the talent, and potential talent, available for England. Selectors need to think short term - the next match, medium term - the next two series and long term - the next two years. The Aussie selectors failed with the latter and the team rapidly declined, and I can see India going the same way. When England next tour there SRT and Dravid will be 40, and whether they, along with VVS, Zaheer and even Harbhajan are still playing is open to question. Where is the next generation? Where is the plan? There are many people that deserve praise for England's success, and that includes the selectors.

  • on August 14, 2011, 1:53 GMT

    again proved, India only wins in their home grounds...

  • on August 14, 2011, 1:07 GMT

    England should enjoy this while it lasts...in all honesty their stay at the top will be short lived. Fact: This will be their last test series until March (next year) against Srilanka. Test cricket is in a good place at the moment with 3-4 teams vying for the tops spot!! South Africa can replace England soon, as they will face Australia & Srilanka at home & Newzealand (away) in January 2012. Moral of the story: All is not lost for India, we can still be NO.1!!!

  • myview4u41179 on August 14, 2011, 0:59 GMT

    Goood Lesson for india ..... India are champions at home.... in subcontinents...

    They were never good against a good bowling attack... All these days they were not exposed..... and what a time to show world what indian batsman are really ....

    Good that england exposed India,,, which australia with mcgrath and gillespie did for so long.....

    Iam so happy INDIA was exposed to good team..... and people can see it....

    What a day for sachin , he will never forget this series which will be part of his careeer and series loss like this ....

  • timmyw on August 14, 2011, 0:26 GMT

    England really did play well. They played as a team and deserve the accolades afforded them. They had the hunger and India just wanted to go home. I am interested though to see what they do in the fourth and final test. I think a lot will be learned if they lose, they have to keep up their intensity. If they can do that, sure they have every chance to become a dominant force in world cricket. If not... Let's not forget, SA are an excellent team, my gut instinct says SA will win. It's the series I have been looking forward to. I'm not convinced the English team will be dominant. I think the top 3 or 4 teams in the world have a chance to make this a golden era in cricket. 4 evenly balanced test teams makes for mouthwatering cricket. All this talk of one dominant team... I don't know. Let's see how the English do against the best pace attack in the world before we start saying they will be dominant for 10 years.

  • Bilal94 on August 13, 2011, 23:47 GMT

    The Test championship must make each team play a particular series in two legs one home and the other away to make the victory indisputable.England have to perform in the sub-continent because they dont like the hot climate,cant play spinners in spinner friendly conditions and their spinner Swan is ineffective in the sub-continent for some odd reason.

  • RAVI_BOPARA on August 13, 2011, 23:29 GMT

    ENGLAND ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD, I CAN SAY IT FREELY TO THE HOLE OF THE WORLD NOW.... AND NO ONE IS GOING TO REPLACE THEM!!!! LONG MAY IT CONTINUE !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Shan156 on August 13, 2011, 23:13 GMT

    Conditions weren't this favorable in Australia - Anderson, Tremlett and Bresnan didn't do too badly, did they? Just like how we can't say that they will excel even in conditions that don't favor swing bowling, it would be incorrect to assume that they will do poorly in such conditions. Also remember that Swann will be a huge threat in pitches that favor spin bowling.

    Success can bring in a lot of confidence. It is up to the captain and coach to ensure that it doesn't get to their heads and they don't become over-confident. I am confident that the two Andrews in-charge will not let that happen. England have a good chance to maintain their #1 ranking.

    While SA are strong contenders for the #1 crown, India and SL are not. India will enter a rebuilding phase pretty soon when their senior champions leave the scene. SL are in a rebuilding phase already but they never had the quality to assume the mantle of #1 in tests anyway.

  • Nerk on August 13, 2011, 22:34 GMT

    Long time coming for England. They have stuck with very much the same team for the last few years, and made everyone of them stand up and be counted. Full credit must go to Strauss, when he recieved the captaincy there was a lot of people believing he couldn't do the job. But I think he has proved himself to be a level headed leader. England will have a job to do to hold onto #1 for sure. Sth Africa are an extremely good side and India have the players to come back. Sri Lanka and Australia are rebuilding and it won't be long before they come back to the fore. In fact, there hasn't been such a level playing field like this since the early nineties. Looking forward to it!

  • on August 13, 2011, 22:13 GMT

    well done england. now its time to ask, how far you will keep your no.01 spot?? lets see...

  • on August 13, 2011, 22:05 GMT

    just got one line for team india : hehehe... hehehhe.... HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHHAHAHA!!! :P

  • on August 13, 2011, 21:56 GMT

    Jade Valley try the next 10 to 15 years look how long the Windies an Aussies were on top hence my decision

  • on August 13, 2011, 21:34 GMT

    Cpt.Meanster# I am sick of people saying that England's bowlers can only succeed at home. This may be true but India's bowlers at home, that is frightening to think about. How easily England would deal with the Indian bowlers in India. England has the best test bowling line up in the world. Deal with it

  • on August 13, 2011, 21:23 GMT

    Congrats to well deserving English Team. The writing on the wall even in the previous series was ignored and very poor preparation for a very important series. Against a weak West Indies barring Dravid and Praveen rest of them performed below the expected lines. Forget the so called Seniors and look for building a strong future team. Bad media hype on Sachin and other matters deserves to be pushed back. Our bowling is weak in both spin and pace and gets covered when played in domestic soil. The failure of top order and the lack of application and skill in the middle and lower orders should be addressed to stem the rot.

  • Gamaraala on August 13, 2011, 21:21 GMT

    Congratulations England. You deserve this.

  • on August 13, 2011, 21:10 GMT

    Congrats to the deserving England team. It is a big lesson for India. Even in the earlier series against the weak West Indian team, their performance was far from convincing barring Dravid and Praveen. The preparations were very poor and the hype by the Media on Sachin and others were too much!! It will be difficult to claim up with such mediocre bowling attack. No serious thoughts on building for the future and bask in glory at home advantage only !! High time we forget the so calledSeniors and concentrate in building a future Indian t

  • Bhrams on August 13, 2011, 21:09 GMT

    I really like Strauss' measured responses. He doesn't go overboard or go to the other extreme of being fakely modest. English cricket is in really good hands under him and Flower. All the very best to stay at No.1. And being an Indian fan, thanks to the Indian team for all the joyous memories over the past few years. A period of painful transition awaits.

  • Dale-force_winds_steyn_the_pitch on August 13, 2011, 20:55 GMT

    Quite frankly, England should enjoy this while it lasts. They may have the number one spot, but the series against SA beckons, where their batsmen will be tested against a quality pace attack, something they haven't done in a long time. SA will be challenging for the spot and I feel one of England and SA will become the next dominant team. SA seem favourites in my book. Still, well done to England!

  • krici_lover on August 13, 2011, 20:52 GMT

    As mentioned by Andrew, the current england team was also in shambles in 2009 and had achieved a new low by getting out at 51. Now if we ask any English fan they wouls say it was just one-off series. I guess same applies to Team India. They can always bounce back and dethrone England from this position.

  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on August 13, 2011, 20:51 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster: Over the next 2 years India will challenge for that No 1 spot again. They'll sit at home, setting up ad hoc 2 Test series against visiting teams and boost their rankings. But deep down you'll know they haven't earned it. That is why THE RANKINGS ARE A JOKE. England aren't No 1 because of the rankings, they're number 1 because they've challenged and beaten all the best teams in the world, home and away, only a sub-continent blip, withholds them from true greatness. The stupidity of the rankings is that some teams can sit at home, boost their rankings, whilst others have to toil in away conditions and when they win, the victories count the same. Rankings won't mean anything until a League structure is set up, where every team plays against each other on a minimum of 3 Test matches.

  • donda on August 13, 2011, 20:39 GMT

    What a great team effort by england and great coaching by andy flower. Finally england achieved what they were looking for three years. Congratulations to england. But wait a second, did we all said congratulations to indians two years ago, i think yes. So England should learn from India and accept that one day this #1 position will go away. So play for pride and greatness not for #1 spot.

    All these teams are on the top of the world because Aussies are no more #1 otherwise they would never get a chance. Now if you are #1 then play like champions and with big heart in next three years. Otherwise SA is ready to take over.

  • safwan_Umair on August 13, 2011, 20:37 GMT

    @ cpt.meanster ..... stop dreaming buddy. India's time at the top of world cricket is done and dusted. Its good to be humble once in a while and accept that your time has been smashed to bits.

  • on August 13, 2011, 20:32 GMT

    maximum 1 year. englands bowling cant survive in subcontinent. not to forget that india has a series against australia and after that i think there are 4 home series including englands tour of india and you guys know how india plays in subcontinent. so ya england for sure wont be no 1 for more than 1 year as they will be challanged by south africa and india

  • landl47 on August 13, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    Although this was a team effort, there were two players in particular who in this series finally became the players they were meant to be, and in doing so completed England's overall team strength. They were Kevin Pietersen and Stuart Broad. Pietersen discovered that when he works for his runs, he scores a whole lot more of them. Broad discovered that when he pitches the ball up, he gets a whole lot more wickets. Just look at their statistics: Pietersen, double century and 2 50s, average 89.5; Broad, 21 wickets at an average of 11.95 and an economy rate of 2.27, not to mention, 2 50s and a batting average of 60! If those two players keep playing like this, England will dominate world cricket. Cpt. Meanster, you're wrong and you will be shown to be wrong. England just thrashed Aus in Aus- let's see how India do there. Sri Lanka have no bowling and Pakistan have no batting, England will beat them both. Then it will be SA and India's turn to lose!

  • bhaloniaz on August 13, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    I do see its not going to be easy for England to stay in the top. I see more threats coming from SA and AUS rather than India. Anderson, Broad, Bresnan are good bowlers in any conditions. SA can easily build or field a better bowling lineup. Their batting is better. Australia would keep on coming back. SL and IND poses less threat assuming they will have lack of depth in fast bowling and world dominating spinners are gone. It is also important to note how DRS plays out. I am expecting india to be more like number 4 team than number 2 team.

  • DazTaylor on August 13, 2011, 20:13 GMT

    Cpt Meanster - are you being serious? Did you watch the Ashes? Not many clouds there. Also, Broad and Bresnan are not swing bowlers. Add that England have strength in depth, more than anyone else. India will go into transition shortly as they appear to have not much coming through to replace their legends, all of whom are aged 37+.

  • tbmorris on August 13, 2011, 20:03 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster If you consider English bowlers (Anderson, Swann, Broad, Tremlett, Bresnan alongside Finn, Onions, Shahzad and Panesar) I just don't think you can argue that any other country has stronger bowling options - so if anyone is going to bowl well away from home it is probably going to be England.

  • GringoTed on August 13, 2011, 20:01 GMT

    England won't retain no.1 even if they beat India in the fourth test. Not because of some of the reasons above (poor bowling in the sub continent etc - their batting line-up should be able to ensure at least draws v India and Sri Lanka over the winter). Instead, look at South Africa's fixtures - 2 v Sri Lanka and 3v Australia AT HOME before England even travel to India. I would be amazed if they didn't at least win both series, if not more likely win every test.

  • on August 13, 2011, 19:56 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster - you mean those "cloudy, swinging conditions" in Oz last winter right?

  • SagirParkar on August 13, 2011, 19:49 GMT

    nice article Andrew and very well analysed the tough road that lies ahead for England.. for reaching the summit is not as tough as defending it from the hordes that seek to supplant the incumbent !

    Englands future tests lie against South Africa both home and away and against Sri Lanka and India in the subcontinent.. England's bowling as a unit is much superior to the other teams but skill needs to be complemented my mental toughness and the right attitude, as England showed in Australia and this series... here's to many more interesting matches to follow !

  • on August 13, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Once England keep playing like this, they'll surely dominate cricket for at least another 5 years.

  • Cpt.Meanster on August 13, 2011, 19:22 GMT

    Andrew, as a neutral fan of the game I must say that England won't remain on top for long. Right now they are enjoying their finest hour. Tough times are ahead and they WILL be tested. England according to me DON'T have a bowling attack to dominate overseas, especially in the sub-continent (India, SL). They will find it hard to even compete with those teams away from home. Anderson, Broad, Bresnan are lethal ONLY in cloudy, swinging conditions. India will definitely learn from this experience and will do well in Australia where they have had good success for the last 10 years. Bottom line I just cannot see England remaining there for long. In fact, India and SA will constantly challenge England for that spot and I won't be surprised if the no.1 rank changes hands in the next 18 months. Good luck.

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  • Cpt.Meanster on August 13, 2011, 19:22 GMT

    Andrew, as a neutral fan of the game I must say that England won't remain on top for long. Right now they are enjoying their finest hour. Tough times are ahead and they WILL be tested. England according to me DON'T have a bowling attack to dominate overseas, especially in the sub-continent (India, SL). They will find it hard to even compete with those teams away from home. Anderson, Broad, Bresnan are lethal ONLY in cloudy, swinging conditions. India will definitely learn from this experience and will do well in Australia where they have had good success for the last 10 years. Bottom line I just cannot see England remaining there for long. In fact, India and SA will constantly challenge England for that spot and I won't be surprised if the no.1 rank changes hands in the next 18 months. Good luck.

  • on August 13, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Once England keep playing like this, they'll surely dominate cricket for at least another 5 years.

  • SagirParkar on August 13, 2011, 19:49 GMT

    nice article Andrew and very well analysed the tough road that lies ahead for England.. for reaching the summit is not as tough as defending it from the hordes that seek to supplant the incumbent !

    Englands future tests lie against South Africa both home and away and against Sri Lanka and India in the subcontinent.. England's bowling as a unit is much superior to the other teams but skill needs to be complemented my mental toughness and the right attitude, as England showed in Australia and this series... here's to many more interesting matches to follow !

  • on August 13, 2011, 19:56 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster - you mean those "cloudy, swinging conditions" in Oz last winter right?

  • GringoTed on August 13, 2011, 20:01 GMT

    England won't retain no.1 even if they beat India in the fourth test. Not because of some of the reasons above (poor bowling in the sub continent etc - their batting line-up should be able to ensure at least draws v India and Sri Lanka over the winter). Instead, look at South Africa's fixtures - 2 v Sri Lanka and 3v Australia AT HOME before England even travel to India. I would be amazed if they didn't at least win both series, if not more likely win every test.

  • tbmorris on August 13, 2011, 20:03 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster If you consider English bowlers (Anderson, Swann, Broad, Tremlett, Bresnan alongside Finn, Onions, Shahzad and Panesar) I just don't think you can argue that any other country has stronger bowling options - so if anyone is going to bowl well away from home it is probably going to be England.

  • DazTaylor on August 13, 2011, 20:13 GMT

    Cpt Meanster - are you being serious? Did you watch the Ashes? Not many clouds there. Also, Broad and Bresnan are not swing bowlers. Add that England have strength in depth, more than anyone else. India will go into transition shortly as they appear to have not much coming through to replace their legends, all of whom are aged 37+.

  • bhaloniaz on August 13, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    I do see its not going to be easy for England to stay in the top. I see more threats coming from SA and AUS rather than India. Anderson, Broad, Bresnan are good bowlers in any conditions. SA can easily build or field a better bowling lineup. Their batting is better. Australia would keep on coming back. SL and IND poses less threat assuming they will have lack of depth in fast bowling and world dominating spinners are gone. It is also important to note how DRS plays out. I am expecting india to be more like number 4 team than number 2 team.

  • landl47 on August 13, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    Although this was a team effort, there were two players in particular who in this series finally became the players they were meant to be, and in doing so completed England's overall team strength. They were Kevin Pietersen and Stuart Broad. Pietersen discovered that when he works for his runs, he scores a whole lot more of them. Broad discovered that when he pitches the ball up, he gets a whole lot more wickets. Just look at their statistics: Pietersen, double century and 2 50s, average 89.5; Broad, 21 wickets at an average of 11.95 and an economy rate of 2.27, not to mention, 2 50s and a batting average of 60! If those two players keep playing like this, England will dominate world cricket. Cpt. Meanster, you're wrong and you will be shown to be wrong. England just thrashed Aus in Aus- let's see how India do there. Sri Lanka have no bowling and Pakistan have no batting, England will beat them both. Then it will be SA and India's turn to lose!

  • on August 13, 2011, 20:32 GMT

    maximum 1 year. englands bowling cant survive in subcontinent. not to forget that india has a series against australia and after that i think there are 4 home series including englands tour of india and you guys know how india plays in subcontinent. so ya england for sure wont be no 1 for more than 1 year as they will be challanged by south africa and india