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'India were overconfident in SA and NZ' - Fletcher

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July 6, 2014

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Duncan Fletcher, the India coach, has said that his players were "overconfident" on the tours to South Africa and New Zealand and ended up complicating their games, something he wants them to learn from and avoid in England.

India lost their last two Test series overseas by a 1-0 margin. They set South Africa a target of 458 in the first Test in Johannesburg, before the hosts held on for a thrilling draw, finishing within striking distance of the target. The second Test was claimed by South Africa, who won by 10 wickets, chasing down India's target of 58. In New Zealand, India fell 40 runs short in the first Test and were then thwarted by New Zealand, who saved the second Test after being dismissed for 192 in the first innings.

"With these young boys I felt they could have been a little overconfident when they went to South Africa and New Zealand because they had done so well in India," Fletcher told bcci.tv. "As the series went, it made them realise that playing away from home is very difficult. They believe that they have learnt from those tours and so there is positivity in the camp but the overconfidence has gone. But again, until you actually go out there and play a game, you will never know if you actually have learnt."

The biggest mistake the India players committed, according to Fletcher, was making their games complicated. "The batsmen, for instance, tried to bat a little too differently than they would in India," he said. "The only actual difference was they had to get used to a bit more bounce. Because of this bounce, when it comes to the short ball, you just have to make up your mind whether you're going to play or leave it. In India, you can play it on a consistent basis.

"For the bowlers the length changes a little; you have to bowl a bit fuller when you go overseas. And it's not an easy thing to do, especially for a young bowler. You've been groomed and trained your brain to bowl a certain way and even if the difference is only 6-12 inches, it's not easy to make the change instantly and that too under pressure.

"We see experienced international players' games altering under pressure. Now here is an inexperienced side with players who are still learning their game and they will take time to get used to the varied challenges."

India are without Zaheer Khan in England and though Ishant Sharma has played 55 Tests, Mohammed Shami, Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Varun Aaron have a combined 13 Tests between them, and Ishwar Pandey and Pankaj Singh are yet to debut. Fletcher said that while his pace attack was raw, it had a lot of variety.

"The bowlers are pretty inexperienced. We haven't really got anyone to lead the group and we haven't taken 20 wickets in a Test since quite a while now. But for once we have a good variety in our pace attack. They are still pretty inexperienced but experience can also come from learning quickly, and we hope they have done that. It will be so very crucial for them as a unit to stay disciplined and not try too much. It's just about ensuring that we get these young men's minds right."

The BCCI had asked former India captain Rahul Dravid to spend some time with the team ahead of the series on the team management's request. Fletcher said Dravid's presence would help not only the batsmen, but also the bowlers, who the coach wanted to think like batsmen do.

"People would think I have called him to help the batsmen," Fletcher said. "But actually it's as much for the bowlers. What people don't understand is that the bowlers think like bowlers. I want Rahul to talk to them and make them think like batsmen. That way they will know what areas a batsman likes and doesn't like, which will help them a great deal in forming their strategies. The problem is that the Indian bowlers don't bat or practise batting when they're playing domestic cricket. And so, while they understand their bowling, they don't understand batting.

"Rahul can play a role right through. His approach and his character is so good. I've really enjoyed talking cricket with Rahul. I really rated him and wanted him back in the side for some time now. We've had some chats since he got here and discussed various ideas and possibilities. What I also like about him is that he can relate to the players culturally. Also, if a player gets the same message from more than one person, he is going to be more convinced about it."

Dravid was India's most successful batsman on the previous tour of England in 2011 and since then, the team has been in transition since with several experienced players retiring or being dropped. Fletcher said his coaching methods had also changed as he had to deal with young players now.

"Fortunately for me, I went through a similar phase with England where the older players were left out or retired and a whole new generation of cricketers came in. The major difference is that with the older ones you just sit back and let them come to you. No matter how good and experienced one is, bad habits sometimes creep in and you've got to help them get rid of those small bad habits without being too overbearing.

"The younger players are a bit reluctant because they don't understand their game fully. So, you've got to go to them and talk to them. However, you have to make sure you send the message very clearly because otherwise they can get confused and start making their game more difficult. You keep the communication very simple and don't make more than one change at a time, even though some players might require more than one change - technically and mentally. The key is to change only one link of the chain at a time. If you change two, you don't know which one will confuse the player. That's why it takes time. Cricket is not an easy game to improve at in a short time."

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Posted by itsthewayuplay on (July 8, 2014, 13:19 GMT)

Inexperienced or not, overconfident or not, the question remains is how is India going to take 20 wickets to win a test in England? I don't see it happening at the moment unless India is relying on a number of England batsmen giving a their wickets away as they did against SL. Based on the last few overseas tours, the best India can hope for is a drawn series and even that will take a lot of hard work.

Posted by Kevmanaso on (July 8, 2014, 12:17 GMT)

This is a very good oppurtunity for players like rahane, kohli, pujara to perform and make a mark or establish themselves in test cricket at least for another 10 years. Pujara is rock solid so is kohli and rahane.. so i want them to play well and win the series.as far as bowling unit is concerned i think shami will do good as he is very good with his line and length and also has the ability to reverse the ball which can be very useful for indian team.. fingers crossed.. Go India go and win it..Cheers..!!

Posted by   on (July 8, 2014, 4:45 GMT)

Given the overseas test record.. On what basis were they overconfident? Maybe they didn't know... Thought they were going to play T20! Looks like ignorance is more than bliss!

Posted by Alexk400 on (July 7, 2014, 21:45 GMT)

Another excuse. That said stars favor india winning in england because of buhaveswar and muhammed sami.

Posted by inswing on (July 7, 2014, 20:32 GMT)

While Fletcher is doing his best, there are some things he can't help. The number one reason India doesn't win enough overseas is that their bowling is simply not good enough in those conditions. Outside India, Ashwin rivals Ishant as the world's most ineffective bowler. And when Ishant is your "frontline" bowler, nobody on this planet can help you. You can guarantee that Cook and any other English batsmen struggling for form will come into form and will be praised for their mental toughness and fortitude. It will have nothing to do with any of that, it will be about bad bowling.

Posted by   on (July 7, 2014, 10:18 GMT)

if u have quality bowlers, 4 are enough.. but if the quality is bad... even 8 bowlers are NOT good enough to get 20 wickets... so all India has to do now is to HUNT/develop good quality bowlers.. so at least in the next decade, we might aim at becoming No. 1 test side..

Posted by   on (July 7, 2014, 7:53 GMT)

What people don't understand is that the bowlers think like bowlers. I want Rahul to talk to them and make them think like batsmen??? Seriously?? First let them think like bowlers atleast and bowl right line and length

Posted by AjayVijayan on (July 7, 2014, 6:20 GMT)

Over confident in South Africa... hehe even in the wildest of dreams, we would never have been confident in SA, let alone being over confident. Even the team of Sehwag, Sachin, Dravid, Laxman , Kumble & Harbhajan wouldn't have been over confident in SA or Aus. !

Posted by   on (July 7, 2014, 5:06 GMT)

I feel more sympathy for Fletcher now that he is talking out

Posted by tests_the_best on (July 7, 2014, 0:09 GMT)

I don't think the Indian team came across as being overconfident on those tours; quite the contrary, especially in SA. Lot of people in SA and India didn't give the Indian team much chance especially after the hammering in the odis. But Virat Kohli scoring a century and 96 in the first test, Pujara scoring century along with other contributions only highlight the fact that the batting unit surpassed expectations. Such performances are quite the opposite of an overconfident side. The only reason India didn't win in Johannesburg or the 2nd test in NZ is because of the bowling attack which lacked penetration but then again that was not because the bowlers were overconfident, it's simply because of common knowledge in world cricket that Ind has arguably the weakest bowling unit bar Bangladesh and maybe WI.

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