West Indies in England 2012 April 27, 2012

Ramdin and Samuels back for West Indies

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Denesh Ramdin has been recalled to keep wicket and Marlon Samuels to bat in the middle order while Kraigg Brathwaite and Carlton Baugh have lost their Test places in the West Indies squad for the tour of England due to begin in May.

The West Indies selectors named their 15-man squad for the tour on the final morning of the home Test series against Australia, also including the uncapped fast bowler Shannon Gabriel alongside Assad Fudadin, who was named in the squad for the Dominica Test.

The offspinner Shane Shillingford has leapfrogged Devendra Bishoo with two strong displays in the final two Australia Tests to claim the sole spinner's berth, with WICB chairman of selectors Clyde Butts saying that the panel expected pace to be West Indies' primary weapon on early season English pitches.

Bishoo and Brathwaite, who made three ducks and 11 in his final four innings of the Australia series after starting with a doughty half-century, will instead be playing for West Indies A against an India touring team at home. Adrian Barath and Kieran Powell were both included for England despite not passing 50 against Michael Clarke's tourists.

"We are going to England early in the season, where the conditions tend to favour the quick bowlers more than the spinners," Butts said. "Young Gabriel continues to impress the selectors in both regional and A-team cricket, and we feel it is a good time to introduce him to the team. We feel he will be an asset to the team in England and has a bright future in West Indies cricket.

"Shillingford has bowled very well against the Australians and we expect a lot from him in England. Bishoo has done well for West Indies in the last year or so, but he has lost some of his confidence and the selectors feel playing him in the A team against India A will give him the chance to regain that confidence.

"We have got to continue to build for the future and we believe that Barath and Powell have bright futures in the game. We also feel this way about Kraigg Brathwaite, but he too, has lost some of his conviction and the selectors also feel playing him in the A team against India A will give him the chance to regain that confidence. None of the other openers in the region have stood out and we are hoping to strengthen this part of our cricket in future regional tournaments and the A-team tours."

Baugh's omission may mean the end of his West Indies playing days, as he again failed to bridge the gap between the 20s he consistently makes in international matches and the centuries he has compiled in regional competition.

"Baugh has been good behind the stumps, but his batting has not quite lived up to expectations, hence the selection of Ramdin," Butts said. "Before he got injured in the camp prior to the series against Australia, Denesh was showing good form both behind the stumps and with the bat."

Samuels has returned after asking to be exempt from selection for the Australia series in order to participate in the IPL, his cause aided by the fact that numerous young players did not step up quite as hoped in his absence. "Marlon since his return to the team has not done badly for us and the selectors feel that he is an asset to the team," Butts said. "He had asked to miss the Australia matches for a stint at IPL."

There was no sign of Chris Gayle in the squad as the series clashes with the latter part of the Indian Twenty20 tournament, though he remains a possible inclusion for the limited-overs portion of the tour having reached an agreement with the WICB. West Indies' first tour match is against Sussex at Hove from May 5. The first Test begins at Lord's on May 17.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on April 30, 2012, 14:43 GMT

    Batsman nowadays wear protection.So why not allow six bouncers in test.And atleast three in ODIs.That will encourage fast bowlers and return of exciting cricket of 80s.But ICC works for India i.e Indian Cunt Council.As they know their fast bowlers are pussies so they wont let that happen.And keep depriving us of great exciting fast bowlers.

  • simonviller on April 30, 2012, 13:49 GMT

    @ Randy Wilson ! I agree with your comments about Baugh . W.I can ill afford to be carrying a non- productive keeper with the bat ,no matter his other skills ,especially when he keeps getting out with a silly shot like that . Any other team ,he would have been gone long ago . Every good team has a good all -round keeper ,that was a major factor in Australia's win over WI in the last test ,wherein wade made a century . As for you team selection ,why not DR Smith for Simmons ?

  • Damo_s on April 30, 2012, 13:35 GMT

    Please! All these "My test 11" posts are completely pointless, boring and tedious. No one else cares which 11 you think should be playing. Totally irrelevant!!

    Anyway, what is all this negativity towards the WI squad? They didnt do badly against the Aussies. It was only because of exceptional performances by the aussie bowlers in the first and Wade in the 2nd that allowed them to win. On another day, victory could have gone to WI in either test. I dont honestly believe we will make "mincemeat" out of this WI team. England never make mincement out of anyone, and usually find some way to make hard work of a light situation. Yes its going to be tough but you have the quicks to damage our batting line up. If you can do that then bat patentiently there is no reason why it cant be a good series and even cause an upset.

  • apittiman on April 30, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    The West Indies selectors will make all efforts to ensure that Bishoo and Sunil Narine never play again. They will try all possible to propel Shillingford the way they did wih Benn who was an under achiever in all regards

  • on April 30, 2012, 12:39 GMT

    Some varied and valid points by alot of people on here and to be honest, there are times that i could see where the selectors are coming from, then there are other examples where there's no logic at all. Apart of me agrees that the players with the big-money contracts outside International cricket, shouldn't be considered for the Test Squad, only because there would be a lack of consistancy in selection. Their availability would sorely depend on whether or not it clashes with a big-money tournament and it can't be any good for the West Indies team to have half of the Squad in and out the side on a regular basis. What i find unfair towards the Windies is that these tournaments tend to clash in mid-season with the Regional-season and unlike the other International playing nations, the contracts are sufficient enough to keep their players happy. The West Indies can't even get close, which is why you can understand why it's a no-brainer for alot of the players chosen, it sucks!!!

  • sugars on April 30, 2012, 10:23 GMT

    i hear people calling for the best team that includes gayle sarwan nash ramdin and all others..news flash they were in new zealand a few years back and chasing a score of under 400 for victory and at one point were 150 i think when ganga got out and west indies with it star studed team still went on to lose the game.when south africa toured the caribbean and gayle scored that 313 west indies still lost that game.in sri lanka lara score over 600 runs in three games west indies lost by an innings in two and over 200 in the last although lara had a double hundred and a hyndred in that same match.should i go on? having good players dosnt automatically make you into a team,is finding the right combination of good players that make you into a real team like the case with this present west indies team. they may not be the best talent that we have now but they certainly is the best combination of the talent we have and they are proving themselves.

  • on April 30, 2012, 9:28 GMT

    Now the real test for the West Indies to show are they one of the most improved sides the series against England in England ,Hoping for the inclusion of key exodus players due to IPL in aseries against England

  • on April 30, 2012, 9:14 GMT

    @Dwight Bowen, I totally agree with your last comment about supporting the team. No doubt the selectors are doing their best in current situation. Their job is to pick the best out of available. However I would recall the comments made by Michael Holding that chanderpaul is the only experienced player in this current lineup who has played more than 30 test matches. Players are young and they must have atleast three players like chanderpaul around them, cauz right now they have not enough resources to consult when they are in trouble. This is the only area where I would go against the selectors otherwise squad has shown resillience. On the situation of contracts board did offer contracts to bravo, pollard and gayle last year but they didn't sign it and so forth this year the board didn't make any offer to them. However board didn't offer contract to Narine which is ridiculous and the result is obvious.

  • on April 30, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    Am I the only person who thinks that WI have the personnel to be the number one team in all forms of cricket, if they just assemble their best players? Batsmen: GAYLE, POLLARD, CHANDERPAUL, DARREN BRAVO. Bowlers: RAMPAUL, ROACH, NARINE, BISHOO, EDWARDS. Allrounders: DWAYNE BRAVO, SAMMY. Please put Darren Bravo as wicket keeper. Forget Ramdin. This team of eleven would be giant slayers. Put Shillingford on the bench in reserve. Keep Sarwan and Russell on call. Lose Powell and Braithwaite, they don't know how to play cricket. Leave them at the high performance center for a couple of years until they learn how to high perform.

  • on April 30, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    As far as Narine goes the ball was in the selectors court, as well as the board. He was not offered a contract. When Kerry Packer came around many years ago.Lloyd, Holding, Roberts, Richards, Murray all left the West Indian shores for lucrative contracts. Alvin Kallicharan was left holding down the fort. When they returned Lloyd was renamed Captain and said he will not play if his VC Murray was not reinstated. Kallicharan eventually fell by the wayside. Was it Patriotic then, but West Indians cheered on because they felt we were invincible then.

  • on April 30, 2012, 14:43 GMT

    Batsman nowadays wear protection.So why not allow six bouncers in test.And atleast three in ODIs.That will encourage fast bowlers and return of exciting cricket of 80s.But ICC works for India i.e Indian Cunt Council.As they know their fast bowlers are pussies so they wont let that happen.And keep depriving us of great exciting fast bowlers.

  • simonviller on April 30, 2012, 13:49 GMT

    @ Randy Wilson ! I agree with your comments about Baugh . W.I can ill afford to be carrying a non- productive keeper with the bat ,no matter his other skills ,especially when he keeps getting out with a silly shot like that . Any other team ,he would have been gone long ago . Every good team has a good all -round keeper ,that was a major factor in Australia's win over WI in the last test ,wherein wade made a century . As for you team selection ,why not DR Smith for Simmons ?

  • Damo_s on April 30, 2012, 13:35 GMT

    Please! All these "My test 11" posts are completely pointless, boring and tedious. No one else cares which 11 you think should be playing. Totally irrelevant!!

    Anyway, what is all this negativity towards the WI squad? They didnt do badly against the Aussies. It was only because of exceptional performances by the aussie bowlers in the first and Wade in the 2nd that allowed them to win. On another day, victory could have gone to WI in either test. I dont honestly believe we will make "mincemeat" out of this WI team. England never make mincement out of anyone, and usually find some way to make hard work of a light situation. Yes its going to be tough but you have the quicks to damage our batting line up. If you can do that then bat patentiently there is no reason why it cant be a good series and even cause an upset.

  • apittiman on April 30, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    The West Indies selectors will make all efforts to ensure that Bishoo and Sunil Narine never play again. They will try all possible to propel Shillingford the way they did wih Benn who was an under achiever in all regards

  • on April 30, 2012, 12:39 GMT

    Some varied and valid points by alot of people on here and to be honest, there are times that i could see where the selectors are coming from, then there are other examples where there's no logic at all. Apart of me agrees that the players with the big-money contracts outside International cricket, shouldn't be considered for the Test Squad, only because there would be a lack of consistancy in selection. Their availability would sorely depend on whether or not it clashes with a big-money tournament and it can't be any good for the West Indies team to have half of the Squad in and out the side on a regular basis. What i find unfair towards the Windies is that these tournaments tend to clash in mid-season with the Regional-season and unlike the other International playing nations, the contracts are sufficient enough to keep their players happy. The West Indies can't even get close, which is why you can understand why it's a no-brainer for alot of the players chosen, it sucks!!!

  • sugars on April 30, 2012, 10:23 GMT

    i hear people calling for the best team that includes gayle sarwan nash ramdin and all others..news flash they were in new zealand a few years back and chasing a score of under 400 for victory and at one point were 150 i think when ganga got out and west indies with it star studed team still went on to lose the game.when south africa toured the caribbean and gayle scored that 313 west indies still lost that game.in sri lanka lara score over 600 runs in three games west indies lost by an innings in two and over 200 in the last although lara had a double hundred and a hyndred in that same match.should i go on? having good players dosnt automatically make you into a team,is finding the right combination of good players that make you into a real team like the case with this present west indies team. they may not be the best talent that we have now but they certainly is the best combination of the talent we have and they are proving themselves.

  • on April 30, 2012, 9:28 GMT

    Now the real test for the West Indies to show are they one of the most improved sides the series against England in England ,Hoping for the inclusion of key exodus players due to IPL in aseries against England

  • on April 30, 2012, 9:14 GMT

    @Dwight Bowen, I totally agree with your last comment about supporting the team. No doubt the selectors are doing their best in current situation. Their job is to pick the best out of available. However I would recall the comments made by Michael Holding that chanderpaul is the only experienced player in this current lineup who has played more than 30 test matches. Players are young and they must have atleast three players like chanderpaul around them, cauz right now they have not enough resources to consult when they are in trouble. This is the only area where I would go against the selectors otherwise squad has shown resillience. On the situation of contracts board did offer contracts to bravo, pollard and gayle last year but they didn't sign it and so forth this year the board didn't make any offer to them. However board didn't offer contract to Narine which is ridiculous and the result is obvious.

  • on April 30, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    Am I the only person who thinks that WI have the personnel to be the number one team in all forms of cricket, if they just assemble their best players? Batsmen: GAYLE, POLLARD, CHANDERPAUL, DARREN BRAVO. Bowlers: RAMPAUL, ROACH, NARINE, BISHOO, EDWARDS. Allrounders: DWAYNE BRAVO, SAMMY. Please put Darren Bravo as wicket keeper. Forget Ramdin. This team of eleven would be giant slayers. Put Shillingford on the bench in reserve. Keep Sarwan and Russell on call. Lose Powell and Braithwaite, they don't know how to play cricket. Leave them at the high performance center for a couple of years until they learn how to high perform.

  • on April 30, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    As far as Narine goes the ball was in the selectors court, as well as the board. He was not offered a contract. When Kerry Packer came around many years ago.Lloyd, Holding, Roberts, Richards, Murray all left the West Indian shores for lucrative contracts. Alvin Kallicharan was left holding down the fort. When they returned Lloyd was renamed Captain and said he will not play if his VC Murray was not reinstated. Kallicharan eventually fell by the wayside. Was it Patriotic then, but West Indians cheered on because they felt we were invincible then.

  • Meety on April 30, 2012, 0:41 GMT

    @Albert D Thomas - one way to accomodate Sarwan or nash is Edwards into opener. I would say he would do a better job then the young blokes who had a crack against Oz. == == == I know this is a test series, but I just can't help wonder if the WIndies should look at a left field option to opening the batting. I am wondering if either Ramdin or Sammy should open the batting as they would be a step up on what was on offer v Oz. Either of those players opening, would free up an extra bowling or batting spot in the order. Only a thought bubble! LOL! Possible WIndies line up; 1. Edwards, 2. Ramdin, 3. Sarwan, 4. Bravo, 5. Chanders, 6. Nash, 7. Deonarine, 8. Sammy, 9. Rampaul, 10. Roach, 11. Shillingford. Just on the basis that if your openers are genuinely weak, may as well slip an allrounder in there & lengthen the batting order.

  • Lethal44 on April 29, 2012, 20:52 GMT

    Any player who opts to play in lucrative 20twenty comps, ahouldn't be considered for selection and that includes Marlon Samuels. My squad would be- Sammy ( c ), Edwards ( vc ), Barath, Simmons, Fudadin, Bravo, Chanderpaul, Powell, Deonarine, Thomas ( wk ), Shillingford, Rampaul, Roach, Edwards.

  • Erebus26 on April 29, 2012, 16:14 GMT

    I back Windies looking to the future but with some of the youngsters continually failing - guys like Barath and Braitwaite to name a couple - it's strange that the selectors haven't took note of Sarwan and Nash. Ok they've brought Samuels back but the logic of this selection is strange. Marlon's form prior to the IPL wasn't great and in India he's been playing T20 cricket with mixed success. Sarwan and Nash have been playing in England and have made some decent scores - both have made centuries in county matches. Surely the inclusion of one of those guys would've strengthened the Windies batting line-up. I would've included Andre Russell instead of the young lad Gabriel. I would've thought they could've got an early release from the IPL considering he's not played any matches there.

  • on April 29, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    If experience is needed then Sarwan should be included over Marlon Samuels, whose recent poor form leaves much to be desired. On the other hand Narsingh Deonarine has shown enough grit to be retained in the squad. I am a Sunil Narine fan but cannot see Shillinford as a back up spinner at this time, he has performed. I agree Barath should be dropped but do not see a replacement on the horizon. I think Mr. Gibson should employ a batting coach. The youngsters should be trained to bring a sense of presence to the game not let the opposition steal their thunder, they are capable batsmen who just need to up the ante on the mind games.

  • on April 29, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    In my opinion, any player who puts a lucrative competition ahead of playing for there region or country, shouldn't be in line for national selection, so forget about Gayle, Bravo, Pollard, Samuels and Narine, they made their choice and opted out, unlike the Australian who put their country's needs first and played in the recent test series. Squad- Lendl Simmons, Adrian Barath, Kirk Edwards, Assad Fudadin, Darren Bravo, Shiv Chanderpaul, Kerian Powell, Narsingh Deonarine, Devon Thomas, Darren Sammy, Shane Shillingford, Kemar Roach, Ravi Rampaul, Fidel Edwards.

  • on April 29, 2012, 12:36 GMT

    Look peoples,whether we like it or not,this is the BETTER squad that the selectors could have come up with under the present circumstances with the IPL going on and 2 batsmen who does NOT have contracts with the board,there,they CANNOT be forced to play for the West Indies and leave out their county sides.Therefore,if you are a West Indian supporter,we can either SUPPORT the team or NOT SUPPORT the team,it is as simple as that regardless of our opinions of who should and should not be there.

  • avii_ on April 29, 2012, 11:13 GMT

    @Justin Lee Austin, everyone else made numerous hunderds and fiftys in the series all the Windies batsmen were just scoring runs like it was nothing, the Australians too?? He might already be dropped for Samuels from how the coach was talking so....

  • roddybee on April 29, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    Lets face it jimmy anderson will unpick Powell, Barath and Deonarine with ease, Powell is a certain lbw

  • on April 29, 2012, 10:24 GMT

    @Albert Dominique Thomas, Deonarine only come in as a batsman that could bowl a bit so however good he is bowling he still has to perform with the bat, which he didnt! He only made one fifty for the series. Nash is an already proven performer and would bring more stability to the batting order!!

  • roddybee on April 29, 2012, 9:53 GMT

    Any team with Darren Sammy as an automatic pick is destined fail and fail badly

  • on April 29, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    Bring Back Gayle, Sarwan, Taylor,Nash and some WI respect please!

  • simonviller on April 29, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    Given Samuels performances throughout his career ,we should bring in A third pacer[ Edwards ] instead to replace him . Samuels seems to be having a problem in pressure situations , in my opinion , as evidence of his failures so early in his innings .

  • simonviller on April 29, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    It's quite obvious that a lot of people on here are just posting comments without checking the facts before doing so . It would help if some would take the time to check ,or ask ,before shooting off . They are many who seem new to the following of WI cricket ,judging from some of the comments ...To those who are beating the drums of Gayle,Sarwan,Nash,Bravo and company ; we were playing with all these guys in the team at the same time and we know how that turned out ,so what's wrong with giving the youngsters a run ? Furthermore , many do not like the coach and management, but you can do nothing about it . You who cannot accept that there is improvement in the current team ; just listen if you would ,to the Australians and others . Our greats of the past all ,suffered failures on the English tours ,before establashing themselves as greats ;so lets give the guys some support whether or not we like the coach or captain , if you love W.I .

  • on April 29, 2012, 3:44 GMT

    I really can't understand why sensible people still asking "where is Gayle", "Where is Russell"? Gayle, Russell, Narine, Bravo, Pollard, Cooper are all at the IPL including Samuels. That was there choice. The question we should be asking is whether or not they are able to leave their franchise before IPL finishes. Guess Samuels is able to. So support what you have. funny to see Russell in IPL not even getting 1 game till now, at least he getting paid.

  • on April 29, 2012, 0:27 GMT

    Everyone's asking for Dwayne Bravo, Sarwan, Nash and so forth my question is who are yu gonna drop for them? They are middle order batsmen not openers. Only senior missing who is a natural opener is Gayle. Which middle order batsman would you drop? Kirk edwards who averages 51, bravo who averages 49, chanderpaul who averages 50 and Deonarine who has shown form since he has returned. I like Nash but he can only come in the side as an opener

  • on April 28, 2012, 19:49 GMT

    in seaming conditions with these batsman the games will be over in 3 days... these youngs have hardly scored any runs at first class level !

  • SirViv1973 on April 28, 2012, 17:34 GMT

    In an idea world the team would be 1.Gayle 2.Nash 3.Edwards 4.Bravo 5. Chanderpaul 6.Pollard 7.Russel 8. Ramdin 9.Rampaul 10. Shillingford 11. Roach rest of squad Deonarine, Narine, Edwards, Holder/Gabriel

  • SirViv1973 on April 28, 2012, 17:03 GMT

    The whole situation is as mess, because of the IPL Windies cannot select their best team. Gayle, Pollard, Narine & Russel would all strengthen the Squad but cannot be picked because they are contratcted to IPL, Surley test cricket should come first. The biggest problem with the current team is the top order with. you need a couple of openers who can at least manage an aver in the mid 30's the current pair at the top ave in the low 20's which just isn't good enough. LS isn't the answer either his aver is even worst! Perhaps Nash shldn't have been disposed of so quickly he could have done a job at the top of the order for a year or 2. the wicketkeeper situation is also worrying. the selectors had no option but to go back to Ramdin. I guess though this isn't a new problem. In the 20 yrs sincere Dujon retired Windies have only had 1 keeper batsman of any note Ridley Jacobs.

  • grantleyp on April 28, 2012, 16:45 GMT

    The bottom line is, this West Indies squad selected for the tour of England is doomed to failure. I have never known an international cricket team consisting of a bunch of kids winning anything.

    Ottis Gibson's man management skills are very poor and weak to say the least. Ottis Gibson is only comfortable managing kids. But unfortunately you don't get anywhere with kids.How can you expect boys to do a man's job.

    A half decent West Indies team would have beaten this Australian team they have just finished playing. Because Australia was pretty ordinary.

    A batting line up with Gayle, Sarwan, Nash and Dwayne Bravo would have given Australia & England a good run for their money. Unfortunately this is not going to happen. Unfortunately this continuous debacle in West Indies cricket will continue for a very long time because the cricket board, the selectors, the coach, and the captain, collectively they are a bunch of mediocre and incompetent individuals who are simply not up to the job.

  • on April 28, 2012, 16:40 GMT

    @Mugees Masood,i have been trying to explain those point about Bravo,Narine and company and Lendl Simmons and his injury status.

  • AMOR on April 28, 2012, 16:36 GMT

    Everyone has a team and a very good one, in some cases the best for the West Indies, however the selectors don't see the same thing. They are told who to select and these days to have to be friends with the coach. Ability is no longer a criteria to be selected. The best watches 0n while the medicore plays to lose. Wake up selectors you have trampled on the rich legacy of West Indies cricket.

  • on April 28, 2012, 14:57 GMT

    For all those wondering and asking about players not included. First of all lendl simmons is injured and he is still recovering, Bravo and pollard were not offered central contracts by the board this year so they can't be forced to play in England that's why they didn't accept contracts last year. Samuels was contracted by the board in the C Grade earlier this year but he requested board to allow him play in the ipl and skip the home tests against australia but will travel to England. Sunil Narine is also not contracted so the board couldn't stop him and from now on he won't accept their contract likewise bravo and pollard.

  • on April 28, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    Let me say i am NOT one endoring Bravo senior's selection or L Simmons who has done really well in ODI's but his test record is not good just like his uncle Phil Simmons as both promised alot more than they delivered.Simmons is an opening batsmen,and maybe the selectors may have been tempted to take him on tour is he was fit as an alternative opener to Barath who has failed miserably although he seems to OWN an opening slot in the West Indies set up and has been given an EXTENDED run.Also with only one wicketkeeper on this tour,they may have been tempted to take him because of his opening ability and can be back up keeper,which i DO NOT support as i think they should have taken TWO wicketkeepers especially with Ramdin's fickle injury status in recent times.

  • on April 28, 2012, 14:03 GMT

    To those asking about wicket keepers,i raised that point up to yesterday,there is NO reserve wicketkeeper,yes it is easier to fly out on at last minute on an 8 hour flight up to England than lets say 22+ hours to Australia or New Zealand.If L Simmons who is an opener and can be a utility wicketkeeper is not selected as he is now coming back from injury,besides Baugh or Ramdin,they could have gone for Devon Thomas or Shane Dowrich,maybe the belief is that they will not give you alot of runs while their keeping maybe good enough,runs they are concerned about and dont have the experience,but if you are rebuilding and want to invest in the future,sure,they are expected to be slaughtered by the world's number 1 England,but it could have developed their cricket.With only one keeper,he will play in All 3 test matches,3 first class matches,it is a gamble,lets hope he does NOT get injured again,remember,his finger was fractured almost 2 months ago,then just before ODI series,he injured it again

  • on April 28, 2012, 14:01 GMT

    does the coach , mr gibson has a timeline by the w.i board, when he has to produce a winning teamor is his job , job for life , irrespective of the objective , winning?the mantra is ' they are turning the corner' at the end of every series.for the past 5 years, any cricketing pundit can asset this team as one that takes one step forward, two steps back. the application and technique is not there - the coaching leaves much to be desired - these young players cannot a moving ball- ball which is bowled in the channel, as the aussies do. is marlon samuel going to be bowling in england? someone needs to tell the selectors, if they harbour that thought, that his bowling action is under scrutiny in ipl.

  • VivGilchrist on April 28, 2012, 13:31 GMT

    Samuels? I still cant believe the hypocracy! Also, for all those mentioning it please look at the Test records of Simmons and Bravo snr before insisting on there selection.

  • on April 28, 2012, 13:18 GMT

    @Meety and some others,it would be nice to hear the selector's accounts as to why some of the players you asked about is not in test squad,but Dwayne Bravo refused to play in the test series against the mighty Australians and now against England as his IPL contract is more pressing at this time,Sunil Narine is NOT a contracted player,therefore the board CANNOT force him to play as he would most likely need to fulfill his contract with the great IPL,plus in early spring it is generally thought that spinners do not usually have high impact and Shillingford bowled really well in Caribbean,lets see if he can have half of that impact in England.The criketing messiah C Gayle is fulfilling his IPL contract as is A Russell,so cannot be expected to be considered even if Russell hardly played in IPL so far,Sarwan has had fitness issues and along with Nash was dumped,both got full county contracts and are NOT contracted players,so will be difficult to draft them into squad.

  • on April 28, 2012, 13:08 GMT

    West Indies middle order batsmen are good. They just need to fire off at the same time. Each of them have made runs recently, Kirk Edwards has scored some centuries recently as well as bravo, and Deonarine has made some good partnerships. The team should be.. 1.Barath 2.Samuels/Powell 3.K. Edwards 4.D.Bravo 5.chanderpaul 6.deonarine 7.Ramdin 8.Sammy 9.Roach 10.Rampaul 11.Shillingford

  • creekeetman on April 28, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    Typical recycling by the west indies, ramdin i can understand, he is the best of all the mediocre keepers available for selection. But why on earth would they bring back samuels? Completely useless decision, dwayne bravo, and/or even pollard would've been better choices, they're both better batmen, bravo in particular is a very good bowler, and both their bowling styles would've been suited to the english conditions. Still can't understand why russel is not playing at test level, yet sammy is. West indies are also going to miss the experience of gayle at the top. I see the english destroying the WI.

  • on April 28, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    Gayle & Sarwan have only themselves to blame for being out of the WI team. Their unprincipled stands on their various issues have caused their demise. These r two fine players & any one would be naive to think other wise. Their presence in the team would have made a huge difference, but winning at all cost has a price. This is an Ottis Gibson show, like it or not, & his show has no place for Gayle nor Sarwan. Gibson sees these players as bad news in his scheme of things. And the WICB is obliging. If Gayle ever play for WI again it would be when WI r in a desperate situation. And presently we r not.

  • Simoc on April 28, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    The selections remind me of the previous Australian selection panel. All over the place. There's no team building happening.

  • WindiesWillow on April 28, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    A lot of people calling for a lot of players. Well...at least the wicketkeeper is changed. Baugh had dropped an important catch in POS only for it to be snapped up by slip, plus his mis-stumping...remember? The good thing is no one is calling for a change in bowlers amd rightly so. The bowling attack looks good, and looks likewe have good reserve as well. If we can get the right combination for the top 3 batsmen, we can do well....hold on...where is Lendl Simmons...he did really well in England a few years ago.

  • eZoha on April 28, 2012, 10:28 GMT

    Many people are questioning the non selection of Gayle, Rusell, Narine and co. The fact is that these players don't have board contracts and are more willing to play in the IPL than for West Indies. I guess it all started in the 2010 edition of IPL when Gayle reluctantly returned to WI a day before their first Test against England and express his indifference to Test matches. He along with some other players didn't renew their contracts with WI board. The trend is moving on. Cricket lovers should be worried what effect IPL is having in WI cricket.

  • on April 28, 2012, 9:58 GMT

    recall gayle even for a higher payment.import players from sri lanka,india,pakistan to become a stronger side.

  • on April 28, 2012, 9:51 GMT

    recall brian lara and other bravo to the side.west indies batting is very weak.recall 1970-80s players to board of selectors.come on west indies

  • on April 28, 2012, 9:47 GMT

    Wow...u can totally understand why WI are not a force in cricket anymore. Just read the comments posted, everyone wants their favorite players. So, everyone wants Gayle, Nash, Sarwan, Narine, Russell, Pollard, Bravo Sr. in the team. Do you guys realize only 11 can play in a team??? Plus, Gayle, Narine, Russell, Pollard and Dwayne Bravo are out playing in the IPL for the whole IPL season, so they cannot just walk out of their contract. That leaves with Nash and Sarwan who just hit some form recently. Sarwan had some fitness issues in the past. Wouldn't you like the new generation learning something from English tour than oldies who haven't been any better. And why would you guys want Narine in place of Shillingford who has bowled extremely well and even went on to take a 10 wicket haul.

  • on April 28, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    Is Jerome Taylor injured? Taylor, Gayle and Andre Russell should be in instead of Samuels (Gayle to replace) and Sammy (Russell to replace) (take 16 instead of 15).

  • on April 28, 2012, 9:31 GMT

    this means marlon samuels would be unavailable to pune. west indian team is on reviving stage and hope they have a better tour here.

  • riverlime on April 28, 2012, 9:11 GMT

    And selecting a rookie bowler like Gabriel based on a recent turn of form is the best way to destroy his confidence. he will get a practice match on a dead pitch and county batsmen will tear him apart and that will be that..... What wrong has Best done , to be constantly rejected?

  • on April 28, 2012, 9:00 GMT

    @nskaile Ramdin does have a test century i think against assie, but i do feel your sentiments ill go for a fresh keeper with determination not so much about talent

  • on April 28, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    recent time wi produced some high quality players. but strange selection made by d selectors. why not selected s naraine and russel ? i think Summy should axed in test. Wi need him only 4 t20 and odi matches

  • on April 28, 2012, 6:54 GMT

    I think it might have been ipl that is why naraine and gayle were not included. But then i think both have a lot of promise. IN the odi and t20 i hope to see them both back aswell as pollard and bravo. THE ONEDAY TEAM SHOULD BE : 1. GAYLE 2. SIMMONS 3.POLLARD 4. BRAVO 5.SAMUELS 6. SAMMY 7. RUSSELL 8. NARAINE 9. EDWARDS 10 ROACH 11 .RAMDIN (WK) 12TH SHILLINGFORD 13TH RAMPAUL 14TH COOPER

  • VivGilchrist on April 28, 2012, 6:39 GMT

    Absolutely disgusted. Samuels who has neither form, career performance, or loyalty to his name gets selected. Based on what? I have defended WI continually but this is sending out mixed messages. Terrible selection. I am also surprised that with both Nash and Sarwan already over in England and scoring runs that they were not chosen. WI selectors, you are leading this team to the slaughter!

  • tappee74 on April 28, 2012, 6:34 GMT

    Instead of playing Ramdin,why don't we play D Murray or J Dujon,Believe me, it will worth the while rather than taking another useless man to England.

  • justanotherfan13 on April 28, 2012, 5:55 GMT

    "He ( Marlon Samuels) had asked to miss the Australia matches for a stint at IPL." how can WICB allow players to play in IPL instead, when they are hosting the mighty Aussie at home? On the other hand Chris Gayle, one of the most explosive batsmen is not allowed to play for WI. Also Andre Russell would be a better option than Sammy in all formats. But he is not in the side. Sunil Narine has more variations than any other spinners at the moment, again he is not in the squad. WEIRD!

  • nzcricket174 on April 28, 2012, 5:12 GMT

    @Aravind Mantravadi He was bought at the IPL auction before West Indies even considered him. He is an uncontracted player to the WICB but has a contract to the IPL, hence why he is playing IPL no question.

  • on April 28, 2012, 5:04 GMT

    luk all these negative peple there......we all know that sarwan and brendan nash would have done nothing at all if they were selected..sarwan has lost his touch and nash has got no chance against top sides.........bharath and powell shuld see this as an oppurtunity to make history.powell i think will not make it into final 11

  • jahbert58 on April 28, 2012, 4:43 GMT

    A few of these WI players are not good enough for the three format.for example: test match: Chanderpaul, Da Bravo only test & odi,K.Edwards test & odi,Sammy odi & t20. Edwards odi & t20 he is not good enough for test anymore too long for his fragile back.Gayle,Roach,Ramdin & Rampaul might be the only players at the moment that are capable of playing three format. the young stars need to focus on their technical foot work & concentration with the ability to spend time at the crease which is badly missing. a time will come when all forms are acceptable .

  • nskaile on April 28, 2012, 4:36 GMT

    i dont knw much about WI but is there any WI fan who can answer my Q? My Q is tht is there no other Wicket keeper in whole WI xpt Ramdin and Baugh who havnt dont ANYTHING AT ALL with the chances they were giving again and again and again? Ramdin's AVE 22 AFTER PLAYIN 42 TESTS and AVE OF 20 in 89 ODIS. Not even a single Century in both formats. Baugh is even worst with AVE OF 17 RUNS IN 21 TEST MATCHES and AVE OF 20 in 47 ODIS. WHy dont WICB give chance to some other wicket keeper, i mean they cant really pick worst then these two for sure? I hope i get answer :(

  • Sinhaya on April 28, 2012, 4:13 GMT

    @Subhag Parkash Singh, well said and hope Windies rock in England!!!

  • madhavtipu96 on April 28, 2012, 3:31 GMT

    If only the West Indies Cricket Board actually cared about the West Indies Cricket team. Sarwan,Gayle,Edward,Pollard,Dwayne Bravo. why won't you select them?

  • venkatesh018 on April 28, 2012, 3:10 GMT

    Dropping Baugh is harsh. He is much better than Ramdin both as keeper and a batsman. Also, why can't both Bishoo and Shillingford be in the squad?

  • sohaibahmad on April 28, 2012, 3:06 GMT

    whatever happened to Jerome Taylor?

  • jahbert58 on April 28, 2012, 2:43 GMT

    The three years experiment is over, its time to fielded a WI best that we have to offer and it ain't this one.observation!GIBSON! take a page from the aussies,your slips fielder field with their hands on their knees.and why does sammy only fielding position is behind the batman! (slips) lloyd,richards and others control the covers and so on. maybe he should spend more time at midon,midoff so not too waste precious DRS decisions. since captian has he sit for any of the three phases of the game! lets try k. edwards in the warm up.cannot take another series of sammy 125k & indiscipline batting. thank god baugh is gone, what a waste!!!!selectors WI team comes before self am tired of mediocrity why samuel & not gayle both playing the IPL!bravo will out perform sammy, i get that.help us al!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!l

  • on April 28, 2012, 2:37 GMT

    Can someone clarify this: did Sunil Narine opt to play for KKR instead of west Indies or did the WICb not pick him?

  • RandyOZ on April 28, 2012, 2:36 GMT

    Whenever I see Samuels name I have a good chuckle. The guy is more overrated than Swann, if that is even possible. Based on form it looks like Nash should be in the team.

  • on April 28, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    Darren Sammy has finally figured out what batting style best suits him. He is now scoring more consistently. He scored more runs against Australia than some of the recognized batsmen, he is the best fielder on the W.I. team, and up the Roaches 5 wicket haul, Sammy was the highest ICC ranked WI bowler. WI under Sammy is producing the best results we have seen from WI in a long time. So not let us be a bit more honest and objective in our assessment. WI was getting plenty of licks with Chris Gayle and Sarwan on the team.

  • on April 28, 2012, 1:44 GMT

    @KyleGoodridge, please read before making comments. The last paragraph indicates that Gayle will still be in IPL and also Dwayne Bravo. This is not our best avilable team but close enough so guess what, count me out because I am going to support West Indies cricket.

  • Dashgar on April 28, 2012, 1:29 GMT

    Time for Sammy to bat at six. He was the third best windows batsman against Australia. My team for them: Barath, Kirk, Samuels, Bravo, Chanderpaul, Sammy, Ramdin, Rampaul, Roach, Shillingford, Fidel

  • Meety on April 28, 2012, 1:11 GMT

    I think the WICB needs to send out a memo on the availability of players for the England tour. I think they (their version anyway) should outline why Nash, Sarwan, Gayle, DJ Bravo & Bishoo are not going. You can deduce some of it, but I think they just need to let the fans know. I wonder if they are on terms enuff with Sarwan & Nash to draft them into the team in an emergency scenario, if in the first two trial matches the top order fail??? == == == One positive, the WICB have secured two reasonable tour matches, which is a good thing. Hopefully at least ONE match will be a full FC rated game.

  • on April 28, 2012, 0:44 GMT

    when would we again say ' this is the best team we have selected'

  • on April 28, 2012, 0:42 GMT

    @Kyle Goodridge, Mr Gayle apparently will be involved with the IPL and also had a contract to play in English t-20 competition,however,he may very well be available for the ODI series.Mr Bravo has NOT indicated any intrest in the test matches against Australia and now against England.And by the way,for all of you wishing that Mr Gayle will be considered for the world T-20 competition,if the board sticks with their selection criteria,then he SHOULD NOT be selected ,he DID NOT play in the caribbean T-20 competition this year unless by some miracle i stand corrected,as Mr Gayle competed for the entire Big BASH in Australia.This year Mr Pollard and Bravo returned from that big bash to play caribbean t-20 unlike in 2011,but it made sense as this year is world T-20 competition which will act as audition for some of those guys and push up their money value,so maybe those were some of the reasons they did this year.

  • on April 28, 2012, 0:39 GMT

    west Indies should name Shivnarine Chanderpaul in the ODI squad bec he is one of the best in England

  • on April 28, 2012, 0:32 GMT

    Sure this squad is going to get smashed in England, just as they were smashed in the West Indies by the Aussies. Remember? They were going to be run over with centuries galore by Clarke and Ponting and they would be blasted by Warner. They could never have had the power to bowl Aus out

  • Alexei on April 28, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    I hoped that Sarwan and Nash would be available but they have full season county contracts, Gayle said he would not be available until the limited overs after the IPL. WICB need a batting coach or R Richardson not to help the youngsters...our openers Powell & Barath, they will surely struggle in English conditions.. thats why they should consider experienced heads like Samuels at 3

  • Alexei on April 28, 2012, 0:12 GMT

    I am very disappointed by this squad. I expected another opener to be included, Pagan perhaps? Who is a top order batsman and has better figures domestically than Powell.. And Shannon Gabriel?? Let him play A team cricket! Andrew Richardson has been having a spectacular season and is the best pacer in the tourney.. He deserves his chance! Anyway i would push Edwards up to open to accomodate both Samuels & Deonarine. Edwards at 2, Samuels 3 and Deonarine 6. If not I expect samuels to replace Deonarine.. But surely Pagan and Richardsion deserve look-ins or even Gavin Tonge!

  • Ozcricketwriter on April 28, 2012, 0:10 GMT

    Chris Gayle, Dwayne Bravo, Keiron Pollard, Andre Russell, Ramnaresh Sarwan. Where are these players? These are the best players that West Indies has, yet they are not in the team. Yes, Darren Sammy is a great leader but leadership can only go so far. Without the best team they will never be as good as they could be.

  • on April 28, 2012, 0:01 GMT

    I would strongly advise Gibson that unless a spinner is the bowler Darren Sammy should only field in the slip cordon off his bowling in England.

  • on April 27, 2012, 23:37 GMT

    where is dwayne bravo chris gayle. West indies supporters need to stop supporting the team unless our best team is out there

  • on April 27, 2012, 23:22 GMT

    A generally good squad named given the circumstances.With only two reconised openers going,lets be brutally honest,Barath is going ONLY because of promise of that debut century in Australia and NO OTHER serious opening batsmen putting their hands up in first class season,as Barath has failed miserably in this series,Powell looks promising,was schooled and played league criket in the UK although we know there is a massive difference between that level and test cricket.Kirk Edwards i assume will act as 3rd opener just in case as he has opened already even at international level,excellent chance for Gabriel and other youngsters as this is first time in ages an international tour contains so much first class games outside of international fixtures,so hope they improve their game and learn fast.With only one wicketkepper,and Simmons not coming as an opener who can also keep wicket as he is only now coming back from injury,lets hope Ramdin does not get injured .

  • on April 27, 2012, 23:11 GMT

    The decisive factor in the just concluded series was the failure of the West Indies inexperienced top order as well as the failure of the bowlers to get rid of the Australian tail cheaply. For the West Indies 14 of the 18 batting partnerships for wickets 1-3 a whopping 78 % failed to put on @ least 30 runs. Compare this with 8 out of 20 or 40% of Australia's partnerships for wickets 7-10 scoring @ least 20 runs In fact the Australian tailenders i.e. 8-11 who faced @ least 10 balls in the series scored 291 runs averaging 26.45 almost twice as much as the 223 runs Brathwaite, Bharat & Powell scored @ an average of 14.87. Gayle is playing the IPl but I cannot understand how on Earth both Powell & Bharat are being considered for A tour of England of all places ahead of Sarwan & Nash who are already in England.

  • on April 27, 2012, 22:13 GMT

    just hoping Windies put up a gud fight..and win in england...played great cricket throughout austalian summer ..playing well in one days just need to to do well throughout a 5 day match...hoping for the best because there r some decent players in this team ...GO WEST INDIES..:)

  • nafzak on April 27, 2012, 22:13 GMT

    If Gayle and Sarwan Payd against Aus, WI would have won. Why are they not in team for Eng? A lot of peple would hail Sammy's 60, but in my humble opinion, Sammy is like Pollard.. Great for 20/20 not for Test matches. Yes, once in a while,he would score a quick 50, but those occasions are too rare.

  • Technical-1 on April 27, 2012, 22:08 GMT

    Who drop the Admin and the Selectors Tribal Cannibals of the region!

  • aclarity on April 27, 2012, 21:53 GMT

    The WI has real problems. Gibson may be a bowling coach but he is no manager of mem and therefore not head coach material. None of the selectors were batsmen and now it is obvious they can not evaluate batting talent. Samuels is back on WI team? Nash, Carter and Pagan are much better choices. I wish Fidel well but 8 wickets in 5 tests - I do not expect much. I would have liked to see Cottoreal in this 15 man squad. Both his pace and left arm would have been an asset.

  • on April 27, 2012, 21:44 GMT

    The best possible 11 for the west indies in England is 1) Gayle 2) K Edwards 3) Sarwan 4) Daren Bravo 5) Chanderpaul 6) Nash 7) Ramdin 8) Sammy 9) Rampaul 10) Edwards 11) Roach. I believe this team would challenge England most in these conditions. With the current squad powell/fudadin, deonarine and samuels would have to replace the absentees.

  • delboy on April 27, 2012, 21:17 GMT

    @Windies89 It would help to appoint the right coach and implement the right resources at grassroots to ensure that COACHING takes place before players are trust into action. If you expect a senior player to be 'Coaching' while in the middle the young batsmen like Braithwaite will never know when to play or shoulder arms and will forever be getting out without scoring. It now makes sense if these young boys do not know what they should be doing.

  • tappee74 on April 27, 2012, 21:14 GMT

    I hope the are coming home and not to play for the WI.Baugh and Deonarine needs to be in team.

  • kunderanengineer on April 27, 2012, 21:13 GMT

    As the Windies take their one man batting line-up to England, one gets the feeling that the "Dravid vs the Poms" show last summer is soon to be replaced this year by "Shiv vs the Poms". However, I feel that even if the Windies are whitewashed, they'll probably avoid the kind of humiliation that India suffered for the simple reason that they have a decent bowling attack and if Gayle can make it for the limited overs matches who knows they may even be able to steal a couple of wins.

  • delboy on April 27, 2012, 21:03 GMT

    @drnaveed ALL sportsmen do not only perform when it MATTERS; they perform even better when their contribution is VALUED. Leave Sarwan to earn his living where he is happy. He is a PROFESSIONAL and currently providing his service to a team that WANT him just like Cooper, Narine and others who take a short time to analyse their value unlike the highly paid domestic coach and his scouts.

  • Nathaniel45 on April 27, 2012, 20:37 GMT

    Ridiculous not to recall Sarwan. The Gayle issue is an ongoing thing that will be resolved after this IPL, and I have a sneaky feeling he will return for the ODIs and do rather well - he has that tendency to turn it on when he needs to prove something. Good call for Ramdin. Did they even try to communicate with Russell? He is playing no games in the IPL... And keep Powell drop Barath. Powell has played loads in England whilst Barath is going to get destroyed by Jimmy Anderson. I still worry about the fifth bowler. And how well will Shillingford do in conditions that don't suit? Roach, Edwards (Kirk), Bravo and Chanderpaul will shine I expect, but there's no hope of victory if only three members of your top order are capable of performing against the best attack in world cricket.

  • on April 27, 2012, 20:25 GMT

    The selectors r satisfied with the work of Gibson & Sammy.And that is reflected in the squad to England. It's a vote of confidence. We r going to invest in our young players under the watchful eyes of Gibson, Sammy & Shiv. I wish them all the best. Team building is never easy.

  • on April 27, 2012, 20:08 GMT

    There is still no Jamaican, as Samuels is only selected to try and appease the Jamaican populous. If I were Samuels I would not go as a point of protest... Jamaica needs to go solo... Away with West Indies cricket! This current West Indies team cannot beat the current Regional champions - Jamaica!

  • on April 27, 2012, 19:59 GMT

    Jamaica has won the regional 4 day Competition 5 yrs in a row and is only good enough to fill one spot in the WI team for Aussie match n now for England. Go Marlon the sole Jamaican in the WI team. More Trini players for the t20 games n more Jamaicans for the Test... make sense....

  • TheLight on April 27, 2012, 19:58 GMT

    Why is Sammy still captain? He is the cause that WI lost both test matches with his ridiculous field settings and awful bowling rotations, not to mention numerous dropped catches. WI is still losing under his so called leadership and actually doing worse. In the past at least we would have won 1 test in between, but now we lose all. Please replace Sammy as captain if the WI has to progress

  • Windies89 on April 27, 2012, 19:45 GMT

    One of the major problems with this current WI team is the lack of experience. Excluding Chanderpaul, they are all a relatively young bunch of players with not that much international exposure as yet. It's great to get fresh blood in there, but if you don't have another experienced player at the other end to help coach you along, we've seen the silly mistake these players have been making throughout the Aus series. As Sarwan is currently playing English county cricket, I think he would have been a great asset to the team. I agree that we should stick with Barath, but Powell I think needs to play some more domestic games before he comes into the side. Ramdin instead of Baugh is also a good move, he's been working on his batting and posting some decent scores in the regional 4-day series.

  • drnaveed on April 27, 2012, 19:28 GMT

    yes sarwan should have been included in the squad as a senior member,as he is not only performing well in this years english county season but he would have been handy with his past experience of playing in these conditions .still no entry for gayle.it is high time now,he should consider playing for his Country rather than playing in a festival kind of a tournament, which is not an international event,but perhaps he is also thinking of making a lot of money in a short span of time ,rather than playing the longer version of the game, and making comparatively smaller amount of money........ ????????????

  • drnaveed on April 27, 2012, 19:28 GMT

    yes sarwan should have been included in the squad as a senior member,as he is not only performing well in this years english county season but he would have been handy with his past experience of playing in these conditions .still no entry for gayle.it is high time now,he should consider playing for his Country rather than playing in a festival kind of a tournament, which is not an international event,but perhaps he is also thinking of making a lot of money in a short span of time ,rather than playing the longer version of the game, and making comparatively smaller amount of money........ ????????????

  • drnaveed on April 27, 2012, 19:28 GMT

    yes sarwan should have been included in the squad as a senior member,as he is not only performing well in this years english county season but he would have been handy with his past experience of playing in these conditions .still no entry for gayle.it is high time now,he should consider playing for his Country rather than playing in a festival kind of a tournament, which is not an international event,but perhaps he is also thinking of making a lot of money in a short span of time ,rather than playing the longer version of the game, and making comparatively smaller amount of money........ ????????????

  • on April 27, 2012, 19:10 GMT

    England will make mincemeat of West Indies this Summer

  • AMOR on April 27, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    Where in the world a Captain and a coach of a team continuosly lose and still be retained. Here in the West Indies of course. So the the end result of the next series lose again. No captaincy or coach what a mess. I weep for the West Indies.

  • on April 27, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    No sarwan no Gayle no win.

  • Rising_Edge1234 on April 27, 2012, 18:30 GMT

    I'd like to say in the nicest way to the people posting their "my eleven". Your eleven don't count.

  • PunchDrunkPunter on April 27, 2012, 18:25 GMT

    Gayle, Edwards, Sarwan, Darren Bravo, Chanderpaul, Deonarine, Ramdin, Taylor, Narine, Edwards, Roach. That would be an XI which would worry me as an England fan. This squad will get utterly smashed to pieces!!!

  • chicoguapo on April 27, 2012, 18:24 GMT

    Where is Kirk Edwards? He has proven to be the best of all the young talents..even better than darren bravo..his performances against bangladesh y india has proven so..is he injured? i hope so..if not i want to know how could certain players like powell and barath get places in this squad before him.....also we need chris gayle at the top of the order....the inclusion of the uncap fast bowler iis not necessary since in the area of bowling we are well versed and have many options..fuddadin i think is a good option and failure by marlon samuels this tour warrants to be rested or dropped however you wish to put it...

  • on April 27, 2012, 18:10 GMT

    where is Gayle? i tought the matter was resolved.....to much inexperience at the top of the order

  • on April 27, 2012, 18:09 GMT

    I see persons selecting teams with Kirk Edwards/somebody else. Chanderpaul, Bravo and Kirk Edwards are the sure picks as they have made runs IN TEST MATCHES recently and all average over 50 in tests - albeit Bravo and Edwards are in the early stages of their careers (plus they make hundreds).

  • kapil216 on April 27, 2012, 18:08 GMT

    What happened to SImmons? Powell, barath and samuels should be replaced with sarwan, nash and simmons!! To build confidence you have to get positive results.I feel West indies have done well in the past 1year.Bt have not won the matches. To win matches you need to have your exp. players in the playing 11.

  • SDHM on April 27, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    Thomas Alcock - both are at the IPL. Probably should be in England in time for the limited overs stuff to start.

    Not picking Sarwan and Nash seems positively insane for me - I know Gibson might be trying to build a young squad, but this batting line up is really going to struggle without experience and guiding hands to see the youngsters through what could well be the toughest conditions they've faced in their careers so far. Both of them are playing excellently (albeit down in the second division) and at least one of them should have been picked - even if they weren't in the team, they could help in training. Nash just got a hundred against an attack containing four bowlers who have been involved with England for example - Bresnan, Shazhad, Sidebottom and Rashid were all playing for Yorkshire today. I'd still back the Windies to be much more competitive than they have been on their last three tours though.

  • Metman on April 27, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    No problem with squad.The English bowlers will now exposed Baraths' weakness outside the off stump....looks like the beginning of the end for him.In my opinion,Brathwaite is still too green for test cricket,and the selectors have thought so too !Tino Best...unlucky again....the long break as a tourist in the ODI squad,and not selected in the test squad was a ploy by the selectors to frustrate him......result,he bowled badly in the semis and final.Carlos Brathwaite though would have been a better bet in those English conditions than Gabriel as we already have 3 pacers.Now that Gayle has not been selected,and rightfully so,Somerset has asked him to clarify his position with them this summer.....my take on that ..leave Gayle and his tantrums to Gayle and himself !

  • on April 27, 2012, 17:51 GMT

    Some people are not well informed.. Simmo is not fully fit. He only played one game so far for his club and did not impress in it

  • on April 27, 2012, 17:08 GMT

    A predictable squad. Lendl Simmons would have been a good option to travel and compete for an opening berth. It is also interesting to note that Ramnaresh Sarwan and Brendon Nash are performing excellently in the County Championship and their experience could only strengthen the brittle batting line-up - especially given the likely conditions and England's seam bowling expertise. I hope Deonarine gets the chance to keep his place ahead of Samuels after a reasonable series against Australia - his bowling has been handy too although conditions in England are unlikely to aid spin. From this squad, the test XI will have to be Barath, Powell, K Edwards, Bravo, Chanderpaul, Deonarine, Ramdin, Sammy, Rampaul, Shillingford & Roach. However, by the time the home tests come along against NZ in July it will be interesting to see what test squad is picked given that Gayle, Dwayne Bravo, Russell and Narine should all be available for duty.

  • Fareen on April 27, 2012, 16:51 GMT

    It's a bit of a joke, this squad. I mean, why's Brathwaite dropped when selectors said he's the 'future' ? And why's fudadin picked when the inexperienced talented players like powell didn't perform against australia @ home ? And though it's good that samuels is back, but i thought selectors would bring back someone experienced like Sarwan. I don't think this squad stands any chance against the mighty English side.

  • on April 27, 2012, 16:50 GMT

    Nice - we've lost the Test series because we have not had any solid batting at the top for any innings, and we ONLY drop Braithwaite, and retain the equally dismal Barath and Powell as the ONLY openers??? Not even the addition of Simmons??? Good God!!!

  • Dav1daKing on April 27, 2012, 16:49 GMT

    Sarwan and Nash are in England making CENTURIES and yet still are ignored when our main issue is our batting!!!! our batting lacks the experience these 2 could provide. how's the Marlon Samuels selection gonna work? and if you needed a raw quickie, why not bring S. Cotterel instead. any ways, no need to fuss over spilled milk. just got to hope the guys perform and we'll come out victorious.

  • JJDn on April 27, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    Sometimes I wonder what is the selectors plan.? Samuels haven't prove anything to be in thevtest team, specially by skipping first class season to bpl and now by going ipl. Meanwhile sarwan and Nash are playing county cricket. With good scores far.

  • on April 27, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    Nash just made a centurty for Kent in exactly the conditions they are going to.

    I suppose selecting him as opener would be too sensible ?

  • on April 27, 2012, 16:41 GMT

    No sign of Narine or Russell? Is Russell injured?

  • Reuelsean on April 27, 2012, 16:40 GMT

    Good to see some good sense prevailing and Baugh being dropped in favour of Ramdin.

  • Randy_Wilson on April 27, 2012, 16:36 GMT

    Thank GOD they DROP Baugh Finally. Ramdin best choice for W Keeper. Now If Barath and Powell continue to Fail they need to be replaced with Simmon (who is still injured) and Gayle (who is unavaible due to ipl), . Sarwan Should Make his Way back in Test ASAP, replacing M Sameuls. Sammy Should convert himself into a Batsmen and be a Part time bowler. He should improve his batting If not Drop him from Test Cricket.

    for this Squad my 11 would be for this Series for de first Test A Barath, K Edwards, Daren Bravo, Assad Fudadin, Chanderpaul, D Sammy, Ramdin, S Shillingford, K Roach, R Rampal and Gabriel.

    But if West Indies have to pick they best 11. my Pick C Gayle, K Edwards/ L Simmon, Sarwan (C), Deren Bravo, S Chanderpaul, K Pollard, D Ramdin, K Roach, R Rampal, Gabriel/Edward, S Shlingford

  • Sinhaya on April 27, 2012, 16:34 GMT

    Sad no Gayle yet again! I think Narine wont succeed in England in May when it is cold. Hope Narine plays the tests against NZ. Kieron Powell showed some good signs with his 40 in the 3rd test. Windies bowling is good, but batting is still the concern.

  • VernDebz on April 27, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    West Indies Test 11 should be - 1. Barath/Gayle, 2. Simmons 3. Darren Bravo 4. Samuels/Kirk Edwards/Deonarine 5. Chanderpaul 6. Dwayne Bravo/Russell 7. Ramdin (c&w) 8. Roach 9. Rampaul/Best 10. Edwards 11. Narine/Shillingford.

    West Indies One Day and T20 11 should be - 1. Gayle 2. Simmons (wk) 3. Darren Bravo 4. Dwayne Smith 5. Dwayne Bravo 6. Pollard 7. Russell 8. Sammy (c) 9. Cooper 10. Narine 11. Roach 12th man Samuel Badree.

  • on April 27, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    where is Sunil Narine? Expected him to be included 2 spinners would have been nice to give some pressure during the tour on each other. Also hopefully since Sammy must play; he plays as a batsman not a bowling allrounder. He bowled too few overs in this recent tour against Australia, and there is too much stress placed on the fast bowlers; Edwards Roach and Rampaul all of whom have been injury prone. Starting 11: 1.Barath, 2.Edwardsl 3.Bravo 4.Chanderpaul 5.Samuels/Deonarine 6.Ramdin 7. Sammy 8. Rampaul 9. Shillingford 10. Roach 11.Edwards

    If any bowling injuries Gabriel would come in. That is enough batting; Sammy and Rampaul have both consistently been outperforming the specialist batsmen If Powell plays I expect Anderson to get him out 1st over, Powell needs to learn to play swing bowling, he is not yet ready for English conditions (agree for him to go on tour let him be exposed to the conditions but not ready to start)

  • on April 27, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    Kevon Cooper should be included in the ODI squad

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  • on April 27, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    Kevon Cooper should be included in the ODI squad

  • on April 27, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    where is Sunil Narine? Expected him to be included 2 spinners would have been nice to give some pressure during the tour on each other. Also hopefully since Sammy must play; he plays as a batsman not a bowling allrounder. He bowled too few overs in this recent tour against Australia, and there is too much stress placed on the fast bowlers; Edwards Roach and Rampaul all of whom have been injury prone. Starting 11: 1.Barath, 2.Edwardsl 3.Bravo 4.Chanderpaul 5.Samuels/Deonarine 6.Ramdin 7. Sammy 8. Rampaul 9. Shillingford 10. Roach 11.Edwards

    If any bowling injuries Gabriel would come in. That is enough batting; Sammy and Rampaul have both consistently been outperforming the specialist batsmen If Powell plays I expect Anderson to get him out 1st over, Powell needs to learn to play swing bowling, he is not yet ready for English conditions (agree for him to go on tour let him be exposed to the conditions but not ready to start)

  • VernDebz on April 27, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    West Indies Test 11 should be - 1. Barath/Gayle, 2. Simmons 3. Darren Bravo 4. Samuels/Kirk Edwards/Deonarine 5. Chanderpaul 6. Dwayne Bravo/Russell 7. Ramdin (c&w) 8. Roach 9. Rampaul/Best 10. Edwards 11. Narine/Shillingford.

    West Indies One Day and T20 11 should be - 1. Gayle 2. Simmons (wk) 3. Darren Bravo 4. Dwayne Smith 5. Dwayne Bravo 6. Pollard 7. Russell 8. Sammy (c) 9. Cooper 10. Narine 11. Roach 12th man Samuel Badree.

  • Sinhaya on April 27, 2012, 16:34 GMT

    Sad no Gayle yet again! I think Narine wont succeed in England in May when it is cold. Hope Narine plays the tests against NZ. Kieron Powell showed some good signs with his 40 in the 3rd test. Windies bowling is good, but batting is still the concern.

  • Randy_Wilson on April 27, 2012, 16:36 GMT

    Thank GOD they DROP Baugh Finally. Ramdin best choice for W Keeper. Now If Barath and Powell continue to Fail they need to be replaced with Simmon (who is still injured) and Gayle (who is unavaible due to ipl), . Sarwan Should Make his Way back in Test ASAP, replacing M Sameuls. Sammy Should convert himself into a Batsmen and be a Part time bowler. He should improve his batting If not Drop him from Test Cricket.

    for this Squad my 11 would be for this Series for de first Test A Barath, K Edwards, Daren Bravo, Assad Fudadin, Chanderpaul, D Sammy, Ramdin, S Shillingford, K Roach, R Rampal and Gabriel.

    But if West Indies have to pick they best 11. my Pick C Gayle, K Edwards/ L Simmon, Sarwan (C), Deren Bravo, S Chanderpaul, K Pollard, D Ramdin, K Roach, R Rampal, Gabriel/Edward, S Shlingford

  • Reuelsean on April 27, 2012, 16:40 GMT

    Good to see some good sense prevailing and Baugh being dropped in favour of Ramdin.

  • on April 27, 2012, 16:41 GMT

    No sign of Narine or Russell? Is Russell injured?

  • on April 27, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    Nash just made a centurty for Kent in exactly the conditions they are going to.

    I suppose selecting him as opener would be too sensible ?

  • JJDn on April 27, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    Sometimes I wonder what is the selectors plan.? Samuels haven't prove anything to be in thevtest team, specially by skipping first class season to bpl and now by going ipl. Meanwhile sarwan and Nash are playing county cricket. With good scores far.

  • Dav1daKing on April 27, 2012, 16:49 GMT

    Sarwan and Nash are in England making CENTURIES and yet still are ignored when our main issue is our batting!!!! our batting lacks the experience these 2 could provide. how's the Marlon Samuels selection gonna work? and if you needed a raw quickie, why not bring S. Cotterel instead. any ways, no need to fuss over spilled milk. just got to hope the guys perform and we'll come out victorious.