Chennai Super Kings V Kolkata Knight Riders, IPL, Chennai May 1, 2012

CSK's form a worry for coach Fleming

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With defending champions Chennai Super Kings still fourth in the points table after a five-wicket loss to Kolkata Knight Riders on Monday, Super Kings' coach Stephen Fleming has said that it's the first time his side has been challenged for form in the last two years.

Super Kings, who were IPL champions in 2010 and 2011, have lost five out of ten matches this year. "The nature of which we are playing needs to improve and we need to look at the personnel as well as this is the first time we've been challenged for form," Fleming said. "We have been a very consistent side, but now we have to make the right decisions based on what our captain needs."

Super Kings' batsmen have struggled to find form this year, with their top-scorer Faf du Plessis averaging 37.11 from nine innings. Fleming said that his side must play well as a unit if they want to succeed. "We're just not getting enough runs and defending well enough," Fleming said, "He [MS Dhoni, the captain] needs to be supported in the field. We must reassess which bowlers we need and hope our batsmen score more. Things must improve quickly."

On Monday, Knight Riders outperformed Super Kings with bat and ball as they failed to string together substantial partnerships and missed a number of run-out chances. Fleming said that though his batsmen played well, bowling and fielding was a concern.

"Today we showed a lot more intent on a tough wicket but when we tried to push ahead or clear the boundary we missed out the 15 to 20 runs that we needed. Knight Riders had one good partnership (between Gautam Gambhir and Jacques Kallis) that took the game out of our reach," Fleming said.

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  • TRAM on May 3, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    Except Ashwin there is no threat in CSK bowling. Bollinger is overrated. MSD is the only one in the world who thinks AMorkel is a bowler. POINT 1: *Hilfenhaus should be in for MHussey*. AMorkel is also a pretty ordinary fielder. I will keep albie only for his once-in-blue-moon 25 of 6 balls!! POINT 2: *Jadeja should open with DuPlesis* because nowadays opponents start with spin. DuPlessis+Jadeja will confuse opponents since one plays pace and other plays spin better. PONT 3: Yes, follow the last year's policy of *Badri in, if wkts fall early*. Other than that, Badri should go as last recog-bat. PONT 4: *All unorthodox hitters should come early to use powerplay* . POINT 5: MSD, please, practice hitting out first 6 balls. You are wasting 2 overs at least for *getting your eye in*. POINT 6: Vignesh is an explsive bat. So, 1.DuPlessis, 2.Jadeja, 3.Vignesh, 4.Albie, 5.Raina, 6.MSD, 7.Bravo, 8.Badri, 9.YMahesh, 10.Ashwin, 11.Hifenhaus. Except Badri & Dhoni every one else can bowl

  • caught_knott_bowled_old on May 3, 2012, 0:32 GMT

    Agree with @Nalinraaja..both Bollinger and Hilfenhaus HAVE to play. Supported by Ashwin, Morkel and Jakati.

  • crazycricketlover on May 2, 2012, 19:12 GMT

    past 4 years csks main strength relies on batting their scoring rate in first six and last five overs was tremendous but now they are playing to complete 20 overs...

  • on May 2, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    The problem starts when a wicket falls and dhoni comes in to bat. He should be aiming for at least 4 or 5 boundries in the mid overs. Last game it was poor performance from Dhoni and it cost the match.I also noticed that the bowlers are shrewd, not to pitch in his zone. Because of his terrible form he is not able to hit odd balls in his zone too. But still we have our hopes on u!!! 3 in a row!!!!!!!!

  • on May 2, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    CSK are supposed to be one of the strong teams in the IPL because all of their perform to some extent according to the roles they are given. They have done that successfully over the past 4 years but this year they seem to lack that extra bite one associates with world beaters. Perhaps they need inspiration from their captain MSD who hasn't been the same player over the past year . All they need is one innings or speel of brilliance you know that is a contender for the Moment of the IPL. Hope it comes sooner rather than later. Team changes: where is Hilfenhaus? he is a brilliant bowler and should be in the team.

  • Venkatsuvimal on May 2, 2012, 12:35 GMT

    CSK and Doni should look to put only the players who are in form, Also they should strengthen the bowling department, Bollinger is best bowler to put slog overs there are lot of chances CSK missed because of bad slog overs,. already enough batsman inline, why can't we use Vijay inplace of badri,.. and bollinger inplace of Magesh and put either hussey / Faf

    Vijay Flessis (better fileder) / Hussey Raina Doni Jadeja Bravo Abhi Ashwin Jagati Bollinger : (Experinced vs top batsman) should be used for right hand batsman and slog overs.

  • on May 2, 2012, 11:53 GMT

    Simple solution: Drop Jadeja and play, see how CSK starts to Rock. No doubt they will be the hattrick champions.

  • leleraja on May 2, 2012, 10:59 GMT

    My CSK is: Badri, Faff, Raina, Dhoni, Anirudh, Bravo, Jadeja, Ashwin, Jakati, Hifenhaus & Bollinger This was we have a good pace attack (Hilfehaus, Bollinger & Bravo), reasonable spin (Ashwin, Jakati, Jadeja & Raina) with atleast 7 batsmen who can slog the ball (Badri, Faff, Raina, Dhoni, Anirudh, Bravo, Jadeja).

    Replacements: Hussey for Faff, Albie for Bravo, Kula for Hifenhaus and Vijay (not Saha) for Anirudh :))

  • on May 2, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    I firmly believe that CSK spent a lot of money this year and bought bad luck. Yes, I am talking about Jadeja. I wonder if there is any series India has won which Jadeja has been playing starting from T20 World cup. Thank god Jadeja did not play in ODI world cup. He does not have the potential to bat as well as bowl effectively, but keeps himself a tag of all rounder and Dhoni's madness about Jadeja being used as an all rounder. I believe using an allrounder to no effect bat or bowl, he can better use an effective batter or bowler.

  • crindex on May 2, 2012, 10:14 GMT

    Jadeja and Jakati are not performing and are a disappointments - especially the million dollar boy - Jadeja !

  • TRAM on May 3, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    Except Ashwin there is no threat in CSK bowling. Bollinger is overrated. MSD is the only one in the world who thinks AMorkel is a bowler. POINT 1: *Hilfenhaus should be in for MHussey*. AMorkel is also a pretty ordinary fielder. I will keep albie only for his once-in-blue-moon 25 of 6 balls!! POINT 2: *Jadeja should open with DuPlesis* because nowadays opponents start with spin. DuPlessis+Jadeja will confuse opponents since one plays pace and other plays spin better. PONT 3: Yes, follow the last year's policy of *Badri in, if wkts fall early*. Other than that, Badri should go as last recog-bat. PONT 4: *All unorthodox hitters should come early to use powerplay* . POINT 5: MSD, please, practice hitting out first 6 balls. You are wasting 2 overs at least for *getting your eye in*. POINT 6: Vignesh is an explsive bat. So, 1.DuPlessis, 2.Jadeja, 3.Vignesh, 4.Albie, 5.Raina, 6.MSD, 7.Bravo, 8.Badri, 9.YMahesh, 10.Ashwin, 11.Hifenhaus. Except Badri & Dhoni every one else can bowl

  • caught_knott_bowled_old on May 3, 2012, 0:32 GMT

    Agree with @Nalinraaja..both Bollinger and Hilfenhaus HAVE to play. Supported by Ashwin, Morkel and Jakati.

  • crazycricketlover on May 2, 2012, 19:12 GMT

    past 4 years csks main strength relies on batting their scoring rate in first six and last five overs was tremendous but now they are playing to complete 20 overs...

  • on May 2, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    The problem starts when a wicket falls and dhoni comes in to bat. He should be aiming for at least 4 or 5 boundries in the mid overs. Last game it was poor performance from Dhoni and it cost the match.I also noticed that the bowlers are shrewd, not to pitch in his zone. Because of his terrible form he is not able to hit odd balls in his zone too. But still we have our hopes on u!!! 3 in a row!!!!!!!!

  • on May 2, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    CSK are supposed to be one of the strong teams in the IPL because all of their perform to some extent according to the roles they are given. They have done that successfully over the past 4 years but this year they seem to lack that extra bite one associates with world beaters. Perhaps they need inspiration from their captain MSD who hasn't been the same player over the past year . All they need is one innings or speel of brilliance you know that is a contender for the Moment of the IPL. Hope it comes sooner rather than later. Team changes: where is Hilfenhaus? he is a brilliant bowler and should be in the team.

  • Venkatsuvimal on May 2, 2012, 12:35 GMT

    CSK and Doni should look to put only the players who are in form, Also they should strengthen the bowling department, Bollinger is best bowler to put slog overs there are lot of chances CSK missed because of bad slog overs,. already enough batsman inline, why can't we use Vijay inplace of badri,.. and bollinger inplace of Magesh and put either hussey / Faf

    Vijay Flessis (better fileder) / Hussey Raina Doni Jadeja Bravo Abhi Ashwin Jagati Bollinger : (Experinced vs top batsman) should be used for right hand batsman and slog overs.

  • on May 2, 2012, 11:53 GMT

    Simple solution: Drop Jadeja and play, see how CSK starts to Rock. No doubt they will be the hattrick champions.

  • leleraja on May 2, 2012, 10:59 GMT

    My CSK is: Badri, Faff, Raina, Dhoni, Anirudh, Bravo, Jadeja, Ashwin, Jakati, Hifenhaus & Bollinger This was we have a good pace attack (Hilfehaus, Bollinger & Bravo), reasonable spin (Ashwin, Jakati, Jadeja & Raina) with atleast 7 batsmen who can slog the ball (Badri, Faff, Raina, Dhoni, Anirudh, Bravo, Jadeja).

    Replacements: Hussey for Faff, Albie for Bravo, Kula for Hifenhaus and Vijay (not Saha) for Anirudh :))

  • on May 2, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    I firmly believe that CSK spent a lot of money this year and bought bad luck. Yes, I am talking about Jadeja. I wonder if there is any series India has won which Jadeja has been playing starting from T20 World cup. Thank god Jadeja did not play in ODI world cup. He does not have the potential to bat as well as bowl effectively, but keeps himself a tag of all rounder and Dhoni's madness about Jadeja being used as an all rounder. I believe using an allrounder to no effect bat or bowl, he can better use an effective batter or bowler.

  • crindex on May 2, 2012, 10:14 GMT

    Jadeja and Jakati are not performing and are a disappointments - especially the million dollar boy - Jadeja !

  • crindex on May 2, 2012, 10:13 GMT

    Jadeja is a bad purchase for CSK. They went all or nothing for him in this years' aution and even over paid for him in a tie breaker ! How costly a mistake is that - as they could have bought two or three overseas player for that price.

    Costly mistake - this Jadeja.

  • Nalinraaja on May 2, 2012, 9:27 GMT

    I retrospectively think that CSK needs a more lethal bowling attack: FAF, Jadeja, Raina, Dhoni, Morkel, Badri, Vijay, Ashwin, Jakati, Bolinger & Hilf. Next time they need to get some good local pace bowlers in the auction.

  • cskfangg on May 2, 2012, 9:07 GMT

    CSK Team Should be: Faf,Vijay,Hussey,Raina,Morkel,Dhoni,Jadeja,Ashwin,Bollinger,Jakati,Yomahesh 1. Bring back vijay, give him a last chance,I think if he gets his form back then CSK will sort the opening problems, if fails try with anirudh, badri batting style definitly not suit for a opener in T20. 2. hussey,Raina & morkel will form middle order, Morkel only faced 30 odd balls in this tournament,If CSK wants to get 180+ score then morkel must bat at No.5. 3. Dhoni should not bring himself up the order, he & jadeja must take role of slogging at death overs, there is no one other dhoni must do the job. 4. CSK must play one of the overseas bowler , In last match they dropped bollinger for hussey which is pathetic considering their bowling attack , Its known fact that they dont have atleast a decent indian Fast bowler so they must stick with bollinger/kula/hilfenhas

  • hari040761 on May 2, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    in addition to my previous list the eleven can be 1. jadu, hussey(anchor), raina, badrii(anchor),dhoni, albie, bravo, vijay(slog), ashwin, tyagi/joginder, dougie/hilfenhas. in the last match dupli is unwantedly pressuriesed to perform by sending alongwith hussey. instead 2. dupli can be sent alongwith jadu and raina, badri, hussey can take care of steadying any collapse and dhoni, markel, bravo can slog and ashwin, tyagi, joginder can be bowling options. my preference will be for 2.

  • hari040761 on May 2, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    my order is jadu, dupli, (attacking openingand right left combination) raina, hussey, badri, (to steady middle) bravo, dhoni, morkel (slog), ashwin, tyagi, joginder. or vijay(to go attacking), hussey(anchor), raina, badri,bravo,(to steady middle) dhoni, morkel, jadu,(slog) ashwin, tyagi/joginder, hilfenhas/dougie/kulas. vijay can also come at middle and badri can open. four medium pace and three spin combination. Jadu should bowl yorker nad change the pace like other left arm spinners nadeem, negi, karthik, abdullah or ankit sharma. the above will balance the team. basics should be followed and rotation of strike and one big hit every over will give good score. middle, place and time the ball. even if you don't score for three consecutive balls don't go for big heave out of frustration instead middle and place. have a chat with non striker who can give tips as he is the one who is seeing the problem from outside and close.

  • Nalinraaja on May 2, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    I would suggest this lineup: FAF, Morkel, Raina, Dhoni, Bravo, Jadeja, Badri (can be promoted if there is a collapse), Ashwin, Jakati, Hilfenhaus, Yo Mahesh/Vijay/Mukund CSK team has the luxury of having top class all-rounders who need to be utilized wisely. They need to have a blast in the first 6 overs which they have been doing in the past seasons so well.

  • ElBeeDubya on May 2, 2012, 5:50 GMT

    Only Faf or Hussey can play for CSK. Bravo and Morkel are the only two real pacers who needs to be supported by either Kula, Hilfy or Bolly. Can't Faf bowl a bit? Jadeja has to elevate his bowling or his lower order spot should be given to Vijay with the license to slog. Jakati is not bowling intelligently. Jo Sharma can't be worse than Yo Mahesh??

  • caught_knott_bowled_old on May 2, 2012, 0:39 GMT

    CSK's got 3 major problems. 1. Form - Fleming's being honest when he says CSK is struggling with form. He hasn't mentioned any names, but its clear that Dhoni, Raina and Vijay are all struggling. All 3 of them have been key players in the past. 2. Selection - CSK feel obliged to play Huss. They don't need to. Badri and Faf can continue to open. What CSK needs is Bollinger and Hilfenhaus. Suddenly you'll have a more potent bowling attack of Bollinger, Hiffenhaus, Ashwin, Albie and Jaddu/Jakati/Raina. Bravo will have to sit out the rest of the matches. 3. Batting order - Saha at #4 against KXIP and Bravo at #4 against KKR were bizarre decisions. Badri, Faf, Raina, Dhoni, Albie should be enough with may Jaddu/Anirudha/etc available for late over slog.

  • ravi_88 on May 1, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    Csk need a good in-form batsmen opener right now. Why not they try ashwin as an opener.he started his career as an op.batsmen in ranji matches.just look at pakistan's mhd.hafeez.! he opens with both with bat & ball.same can be done with ashwin. And If csk don't address the top& middle order batting problems,i'm sure they will endup in 9th place in points table.:@

  • hardrock85 on May 1, 2012, 15:55 GMT

    Absolutely pathetic team selection by CSK... Why they are going with 8 batsman for 20 over game??? If the first 7 batsman is not going to win the match then why u expect your 8th batsman to win the game.... Sacrificing an overseas bowler for an overseas batsman cost the game for CSK.. Already CSK not using Albie Morkel effectively... Badrinath not getting chance to bat bcoz he is in the team as a 8th batsman... Duplessis/Hussey/Morkel/Bravo - In this any one player needs to give way Bollinger/Hilfenhaus/Kulasekara... So that CSK will get one good bowler who is capable of giving early breakthroughs... going with 8 batsman and still scoring the below par score is not at all acceptable... If Dhoni thinks that he can control the game it is not going to happen...

  • Deepu_MSD007 on May 1, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    rairatank, just because losing 1 or 2 matches, doesn mean that Dhoni is a bad batsman... and we do not have the right to choose who is the best... Ganguly is still at his best... Dhoni, the captain cool is always the best... Don forget that his knock of 92* won the World Cup for us... and it was not Sachin or Sehwag... Sachin is the GOD of cricket... Sehwag is the most destructive batsman... But on the day when we needed someone to perform it was our captain... Mind it !!!

  • RajCSK on May 1, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    once du flesis didnt click ,then CSK should not expect more runs. Thats my take so far. because all others are in pathetic form. Raina, dhoni and jadeja only can lift up the score when the openers fail.It didnt happen yesterday. Let see what hussey have it in store for CSK but im sure his arrival will make CSK stronger batting line.

  • on May 1, 2012, 13:06 GMT

    even i think the same, our batsmen especially msd slow down the run rate when a wiket falls. This aint ODI to slow down n rebuild. Maintainig d scoring rate is very important...if dhoni & co. dont change their strategy v might end up being in the bottom 5 for d 1st time...

  • on May 1, 2012, 12:57 GMT

    Lol @ rairatank.... absolute rubbish... no offense to you but ur comment did not make any sense whatsoever.... its easy for us to sit in a chair at home and say this is right that is wrong.... Dhoni as a player and captain knows what is best for his side.... so just leave him alone.... he is allowed to fail... he s not a superman to win everytime...

  • ssenthil on May 1, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    Dhoni as usual always messing up with team combination, batting order and bowling choice, earlier, those moves didn't prove costly to lose matches but this days after IPL-4, everything he is doing gone wrong. CSK never a good captain and NEVER Will be. His fans must realize he was winning matches becoz he had good team not becoz of his Captaincy and now the same team is losing and his captaincy stand ordinary.

  • on May 1, 2012, 11:27 GMT

    They should put Scott Styris on. nuff said

  • striker_force on May 1, 2012, 11:08 GMT

    Agree with rairatank about dhoni's slow batting. They are wasting Albie's hitting prowess with unnecessarily slow batting from dhoni. He should come way down the order.

  • deppores on May 1, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Csk has some problems in the batting line up. when a wicket falls, they start playing very slowly. this is T20...and have limited overs. every bowlers can swing their bats for few balls. so, dhony and his boys should stop slowing the run rate. every ball is important. last 12 overs in yesterday match...i am sorry to tell, you killed the game.

  • rairatank on May 1, 2012, 10:38 GMT

    Be honest, think again. How many matches CSK lost bcoz of Dhoni's slow batting? Answeris min. 3. Dhoni's strike rate is same as Ganguly's, unbelivable. Mr captain cool pls retire and save tiger(mean save CSK and team India)............Thanks for considering my views.

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  • rairatank on May 1, 2012, 10:38 GMT

    Be honest, think again. How many matches CSK lost bcoz of Dhoni's slow batting? Answeris min. 3. Dhoni's strike rate is same as Ganguly's, unbelivable. Mr captain cool pls retire and save tiger(mean save CSK and team India)............Thanks for considering my views.

  • deppores on May 1, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Csk has some problems in the batting line up. when a wicket falls, they start playing very slowly. this is T20...and have limited overs. every bowlers can swing their bats for few balls. so, dhony and his boys should stop slowing the run rate. every ball is important. last 12 overs in yesterday match...i am sorry to tell, you killed the game.

  • striker_force on May 1, 2012, 11:08 GMT

    Agree with rairatank about dhoni's slow batting. They are wasting Albie's hitting prowess with unnecessarily slow batting from dhoni. He should come way down the order.

  • on May 1, 2012, 11:27 GMT

    They should put Scott Styris on. nuff said

  • ssenthil on May 1, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    Dhoni as usual always messing up with team combination, batting order and bowling choice, earlier, those moves didn't prove costly to lose matches but this days after IPL-4, everything he is doing gone wrong. CSK never a good captain and NEVER Will be. His fans must realize he was winning matches becoz he had good team not becoz of his Captaincy and now the same team is losing and his captaincy stand ordinary.

  • on May 1, 2012, 12:57 GMT

    Lol @ rairatank.... absolute rubbish... no offense to you but ur comment did not make any sense whatsoever.... its easy for us to sit in a chair at home and say this is right that is wrong.... Dhoni as a player and captain knows what is best for his side.... so just leave him alone.... he is allowed to fail... he s not a superman to win everytime...

  • on May 1, 2012, 13:06 GMT

    even i think the same, our batsmen especially msd slow down the run rate when a wiket falls. This aint ODI to slow down n rebuild. Maintainig d scoring rate is very important...if dhoni & co. dont change their strategy v might end up being in the bottom 5 for d 1st time...

  • RajCSK on May 1, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    once du flesis didnt click ,then CSK should not expect more runs. Thats my take so far. because all others are in pathetic form. Raina, dhoni and jadeja only can lift up the score when the openers fail.It didnt happen yesterday. Let see what hussey have it in store for CSK but im sure his arrival will make CSK stronger batting line.

  • Deepu_MSD007 on May 1, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    rairatank, just because losing 1 or 2 matches, doesn mean that Dhoni is a bad batsman... and we do not have the right to choose who is the best... Ganguly is still at his best... Dhoni, the captain cool is always the best... Don forget that his knock of 92* won the World Cup for us... and it was not Sachin or Sehwag... Sachin is the GOD of cricket... Sehwag is the most destructive batsman... But on the day when we needed someone to perform it was our captain... Mind it !!!

  • hardrock85 on May 1, 2012, 15:55 GMT

    Absolutely pathetic team selection by CSK... Why they are going with 8 batsman for 20 over game??? If the first 7 batsman is not going to win the match then why u expect your 8th batsman to win the game.... Sacrificing an overseas bowler for an overseas batsman cost the game for CSK.. Already CSK not using Albie Morkel effectively... Badrinath not getting chance to bat bcoz he is in the team as a 8th batsman... Duplessis/Hussey/Morkel/Bravo - In this any one player needs to give way Bollinger/Hilfenhaus/Kulasekara... So that CSK will get one good bowler who is capable of giving early breakthroughs... going with 8 batsman and still scoring the below par score is not at all acceptable... If Dhoni thinks that he can control the game it is not going to happen...