Australia in India 2009-10 October 15, 2009

Don't ask, don't tell

A senior player has been given reason to feel slighted, while youngsters have been made to feel less sure of their aptitude. vision and transparency are conspicuous by their absence
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The secrecy with which the Indian board works sometimes has the air of an undercover nuclear project to it, but the muddled thinking suggests that the plans, if any at all, have long been mislaid.

Rahul Dravid, a proven performer in ODIs despite the image he bears of being a misfit in the format, with close to 11,000 runs and 350 caps, and physically fit to play the energy game, would have expected to be selected despite being 36. Wrong.

He was selected for the Champions Trophy at a time when the selectors thought the younger stars were not good enough, or experienced enough, to face quality fast bowling in testing conditions. On the surface - a conjecture because nobody really knows - it seemed age was not a criterion, form and fitness were. Moreover, Dravid would mentor the youngsters to ensure a smooth transition. So far, so good.

In the six matches he got, Dravid brought to the middle order the stability that was missing, opened the innings once, and scored 180 in five innings. Nothing spectacular, but the question is, did he do the job given to him? He wouldn't be able to tell you because he didn't know what was expected of him. Then he was dropped when it came to playing on the batting beauties in India.

The second question: Are the Rohit Sharmas and Virat Kohlis so inept that they can't be trusted to fight through one hint of adversity, but at the same time so good on batting tracks that they suddenly again become the future of Indian cricket? How much do they need to be pampered?

Thursday's decision has given a senior player reason to feel slighted, while the youngsters have been made to feel less sure of their aptitude. Vision and transparency are conspicuous by their absence. Neither has Dravid been given time to provide solutions to the issues that existed - and they did and do exist - nor have the youngsters become better batsmen. Two important tournaments have amounted to zilch, if not negative.

Was the selectors' thinking actually so short term, as to bring Dravid back just for the Champions Trophy? Are they now suddenly thinking as far ahead as the World Cup on the subcontinent in 2011? Will Dravid come back when India travel to South Africa next year? Will he come back if Suresh Raina gets out to a bouncer again, as he did to one from Ashok Dinda in the final of the Challenger Trophy? Oh for simple answers. But the Indian selectors, unlike their counterparts in the rest of the world, are not allowed to make clear their rationale.

If they always had the World Cup on their minds, couldn't India have punted on the bright youngsters in a limited-overs tournament? Will their Test careers too begin like this? The first few matches on placid tracks, then dropped in favour of a better technician when India travel abroad, and back again for flat pitches? Are we moving into an age of separate teams for home and away matches? Again, no answers.

Those deciding the fate of players, held accountable by the millions, are seemingly not accountable to anybody - not the public, not the players

All it takes is a press conference - every international team has one, especially when four international players are dropped in one go (and spare a thought for the two coaches who had their jobs terminated on Thursday without the courtesy of a phone call or even an SMS). But apparently the BCCI doesn't think the selectors are smart enough or responsible enough to shed light on the decisions they make. Those deciding the fate of players held accountable by millions are seemingly not accountable to anybody - not the public, not the players.

To their credit, this selection committee hasn't been implicated in planting malicious stories or convoluted conspiracy theories in the press, except for one occasion when one unnamed worthy spoke about MS Dhoni's alleged support for RP Singh. There's enough juicy material here, though, for an anonymous selector, or a source close to him, to resume the time-honoured tradition of alluding to a rift between Dhoni and Dravid, the kind we once read of as existing between Dravid and Sourav Ganguly. If only there was a press conference to explain what they thought when they brought Dravid back and then dropped him - because otherwise they are just too thoughtless to make sense of.

Sidharth Monga is a staff writer at Cricinfo

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  • emarald on October 18, 2009, 17:11 GMT

    raina will be a walking wicket against the aussies..

  • sony_sr on October 18, 2009, 13:16 GMT

    Cannot understand this over concern over dravid's exclusion from the team. Everyone accepts that he is a legend with over 11k ODI runs. Here the selectors just reacted to 2 different situations. 1) In CT, shewag and yuvaraj were out due to injuries, this plus our top orders problems against short pitched bowling on bouncy tracks. So selectors had no other option other than getting dravid as it solves both the above mentioned problems (adds experience and solidity to top order). 2) In this new series against aus, shewag and youraj are back and pitches are flat. with sachin, shewag, ghambir, yuvaraj, dhoni filling first 5 spots, there is no way we can include dravid in top order. everyone will agree that dravid will not be of much value at no 6. so if we cannot include him in the eleven, why add additional pressure by taking him in the team. Bottom line is if you give more priority to the needs of Indian team rather than an individual, you will see that what the selectors did is right.

  • Joby_George on October 18, 2009, 8:53 GMT

    Dravid, for no doubt is the best No.3 and the most consistant and reliable batsman india had ever produced. You may not be in the records books along with sachin or lara but the technics he plays and the runs he scored are the biggest proof to name him as Mr.Consistant. Dravid deserves a place in the current indian team, and i still believe if his anchor innings was not there, indian innings would have collapsed aganist our chase in pakistan and we would have defeated badly.The biggest mistake Dravid did was that he stepped down as captain after world cup defeat. Time never comes back to correct a bad decision.

  • tendulkarrules on October 17, 2009, 5:15 GMT

    Which team doesnt have problems while playing abroad? Even Ricky Ponting had lot of problems in playing spin when he was young. And all western players struggle when they play under sub continent pitches for the first time.Its the same case with Indian youngsters too, when they struggle in hard bouncy pitches.The problem can be solved only by the player himself and not by the Board. Youngsters must learn from greats like Sachin and Ponting, like how they solved their problems. While it was facing pace and bounce for Sachin, for Ponting it was playing spin. Only hardwork and interest from the player himself can solve the problem.

  • ImpressiveTeer on October 16, 2009, 20:25 GMT

    Last hope to see some quality batting from Indian player diminishes. Its good in a way as Dravid won't have to turn himself like others to meet silly expectations. Disrespect is part of your new hire package when you sign up to play for BCCI. We'd be commenting all day if these bunch of idiots starts justifying their decisions. Some of these youngsters are promising players and restricting their growth by denying internationnal tournaments is just not good for Indian cricket or for players. I just hope they don't meet the fate of my fav Vinod Kambli.

  • Jim1207 on October 16, 2009, 19:34 GMT

    Why is there a concern over Dravid being dropped!!! He is a legend, but if you are talking about India's vision, we need young players. Dravid was called in place of Sehwag, that everyone knows. So when sehwag comes back, everyone should know what would happen. But selectors are giving chance to either too young people or too old people. Giving place to Kohli is not at all necessary when experienced and talented player like Badrinath or Rohit is wasted. Dravid has become a legend now because he was given so much n so much of chance in his young days. Those 2 players have not got that and they could not convert their talent so far at this level. If we want to see more Dravids coming up, we need to give chance to right people when a player of stature like Dravid is stopped. I too am not sure if selectors have any standard vision. They are a bit confused now, calling Dravid in the side when neglecting young talented players!!

  • Hot-Tadpole on October 16, 2009, 19:18 GMT

    Mr.Dravid,

    It is of no doubt that you, alongside Kapil Dev are the most valuable player India has ever produced. You have never needed any gimmick, any controversy nor any "help" from any selectors to do what you do best - save India the trouble, time and again.

    You will always be remembered and cherished. Hope to see your team bash up Delhi later today :-)

  • soumyaparida on October 16, 2009, 18:31 GMT

    The same thing happened to Ganguly too. Its OK when you have to drop players, be it Ganguly, Dravid or even Sachin but there are norms or atleast respect. You can treat those kind of players as add-ons. Those are the players because of whom we expect the team to win World Cup.

    People have said a lot about Dravids strike rate. ITs 71%, but then when the replacement is Rohit Sharma its no good. His is also 72%. There can always be phasing of cricketers, the way they kicked out Ganguly, Dravid is awful. They could have kept them in playing 15 and rotated the Big 4 all while to give yougsters chance and when the youngsters were fit enought these uys would have gracefully retired. Instead you put all 4 to play for 10 yrs and then throw them out all at one go and expect all those new joinees to perform. I mean even Australia struggled when all seniors left, you are only India.

  • Viju100 on October 16, 2009, 18:27 GMT

    All hitters can not make one day side. there is stability needed in the middle especially in low scoring games. Thats is were Dravid comes to act. Age should not able criteria to eliminate one Dravid much fit player than Tendulkar. There are lot of young opening batsmen available for India in ODIs but the no other middle order batsman like the wall.

  • cricketpujari on October 16, 2009, 17:37 GMT

    Yes, they can drop ganuly and then dravid, but the selectors have to think for the future. What about mohd.Kaif. His name is not mentioned in the cricket circles. He and Yuvraj had helped India win a series against England. He scored a century against west Indies and the he was wished , Good Bye. Why?

  • emarald on October 18, 2009, 17:11 GMT

    raina will be a walking wicket against the aussies..

  • sony_sr on October 18, 2009, 13:16 GMT

    Cannot understand this over concern over dravid's exclusion from the team. Everyone accepts that he is a legend with over 11k ODI runs. Here the selectors just reacted to 2 different situations. 1) In CT, shewag and yuvaraj were out due to injuries, this plus our top orders problems against short pitched bowling on bouncy tracks. So selectors had no other option other than getting dravid as it solves both the above mentioned problems (adds experience and solidity to top order). 2) In this new series against aus, shewag and youraj are back and pitches are flat. with sachin, shewag, ghambir, yuvaraj, dhoni filling first 5 spots, there is no way we can include dravid in top order. everyone will agree that dravid will not be of much value at no 6. so if we cannot include him in the eleven, why add additional pressure by taking him in the team. Bottom line is if you give more priority to the needs of Indian team rather than an individual, you will see that what the selectors did is right.

  • Joby_George on October 18, 2009, 8:53 GMT

    Dravid, for no doubt is the best No.3 and the most consistant and reliable batsman india had ever produced. You may not be in the records books along with sachin or lara but the technics he plays and the runs he scored are the biggest proof to name him as Mr.Consistant. Dravid deserves a place in the current indian team, and i still believe if his anchor innings was not there, indian innings would have collapsed aganist our chase in pakistan and we would have defeated badly.The biggest mistake Dravid did was that he stepped down as captain after world cup defeat. Time never comes back to correct a bad decision.

  • tendulkarrules on October 17, 2009, 5:15 GMT

    Which team doesnt have problems while playing abroad? Even Ricky Ponting had lot of problems in playing spin when he was young. And all western players struggle when they play under sub continent pitches for the first time.Its the same case with Indian youngsters too, when they struggle in hard bouncy pitches.The problem can be solved only by the player himself and not by the Board. Youngsters must learn from greats like Sachin and Ponting, like how they solved their problems. While it was facing pace and bounce for Sachin, for Ponting it was playing spin. Only hardwork and interest from the player himself can solve the problem.

  • ImpressiveTeer on October 16, 2009, 20:25 GMT

    Last hope to see some quality batting from Indian player diminishes. Its good in a way as Dravid won't have to turn himself like others to meet silly expectations. Disrespect is part of your new hire package when you sign up to play for BCCI. We'd be commenting all day if these bunch of idiots starts justifying their decisions. Some of these youngsters are promising players and restricting their growth by denying internationnal tournaments is just not good for Indian cricket or for players. I just hope they don't meet the fate of my fav Vinod Kambli.

  • Jim1207 on October 16, 2009, 19:34 GMT

    Why is there a concern over Dravid being dropped!!! He is a legend, but if you are talking about India's vision, we need young players. Dravid was called in place of Sehwag, that everyone knows. So when sehwag comes back, everyone should know what would happen. But selectors are giving chance to either too young people or too old people. Giving place to Kohli is not at all necessary when experienced and talented player like Badrinath or Rohit is wasted. Dravid has become a legend now because he was given so much n so much of chance in his young days. Those 2 players have not got that and they could not convert their talent so far at this level. If we want to see more Dravids coming up, we need to give chance to right people when a player of stature like Dravid is stopped. I too am not sure if selectors have any standard vision. They are a bit confused now, calling Dravid in the side when neglecting young talented players!!

  • Hot-Tadpole on October 16, 2009, 19:18 GMT

    Mr.Dravid,

    It is of no doubt that you, alongside Kapil Dev are the most valuable player India has ever produced. You have never needed any gimmick, any controversy nor any "help" from any selectors to do what you do best - save India the trouble, time and again.

    You will always be remembered and cherished. Hope to see your team bash up Delhi later today :-)

  • soumyaparida on October 16, 2009, 18:31 GMT

    The same thing happened to Ganguly too. Its OK when you have to drop players, be it Ganguly, Dravid or even Sachin but there are norms or atleast respect. You can treat those kind of players as add-ons. Those are the players because of whom we expect the team to win World Cup.

    People have said a lot about Dravids strike rate. ITs 71%, but then when the replacement is Rohit Sharma its no good. His is also 72%. There can always be phasing of cricketers, the way they kicked out Ganguly, Dravid is awful. They could have kept them in playing 15 and rotated the Big 4 all while to give yougsters chance and when the youngsters were fit enought these uys would have gracefully retired. Instead you put all 4 to play for 10 yrs and then throw them out all at one go and expect all those new joinees to perform. I mean even Australia struggled when all seniors left, you are only India.

  • Viju100 on October 16, 2009, 18:27 GMT

    All hitters can not make one day side. there is stability needed in the middle especially in low scoring games. Thats is were Dravid comes to act. Age should not able criteria to eliminate one Dravid much fit player than Tendulkar. There are lot of young opening batsmen available for India in ODIs but the no other middle order batsman like the wall.

  • cricketpujari on October 16, 2009, 17:37 GMT

    Yes, they can drop ganuly and then dravid, but the selectors have to think for the future. What about mohd.Kaif. His name is not mentioned in the cricket circles. He and Yuvraj had helped India win a series against England. He scored a century against west Indies and the he was wished , Good Bye. Why?

  • davedave on October 16, 2009, 17:26 GMT

    India need captain like Ganguly, I think Dravid is a better choice for the upcoming series and he could play one more year for India especially in one days. What is the point of saying that Dravid is not a one day player who has scored more than 10,000 runs in that format he is far better than the current young crop. When players like Sehwag, Yuvaraj, Harbajan, Laxman, Zaheer started their career they were given a lot of opportunities and within 2 years they had excellent role in the team and importantly all are match winners. But Raina has been in the squad since 2005 what his role is? Has he won any matches against any quality opponents? Players like Rohit, Yousaf, Dinesh Kartik were given too many opportunities but certainly unfit for the team. Since 2005 only Gambhir has proved that he is a match winner of course he is a quality batsman without any doubt.

  • srinathb on October 16, 2009, 14:47 GMT

    India can still do well without Dravid as we have seen in the last few years.But the Selectors should have the faith on the youngsters like Raina.it is still a learning process for them.They should be given chances on Lively pitches too. Srikkanth's administration took a wrong decision by bringing back Dravid to ODI's instead it would have been better had they tried Pujara or Rahane...anyways,Good Luck to Team India...!!!

  • raghu_kewl on October 16, 2009, 14:47 GMT

    When there are no openers, you ask Dravid to open. When you want an extra batsman, you ask him to keep wickets. When you are going to SA in bowling friendly conditions, you bring him into the team. When India is placed comfortably at a score say 150/1 in batting friendly conditions you send someone else in one down and push Dravid to bat at no.6. When India loses first wicket in first over and if the ball is swinging and seaming around you send him in early. So, Dravid has been the one of the scapegoats for many a years in Indian Cricket. This is not at all a fair treatment for a player who has amassed 10,000 runs in both forms of cricket. Who knows Sachin up next in the queue?

  • Idol on October 16, 2009, 14:43 GMT

    If one goes back to the the events after the WC 2007, the entire BCCi was doing stupid things like calling three ex-cricketers to listen to Greg Chappel and making a "blueprint for Indian cricket forward". How much of that has actually happened? All that has happened is that selectors are as inconsistent as they used to be - only thing is that we are spared the ignominy of listening to gems like - "We selected ganguly as an allrounder", "Kumble has been rested" and so on. The latest episode is one more in the long history of litany. Of course, the BCCI gets away with it because the larger Indian public gets swayed by it - distracted if you may - comments from fellow cricinfo fans is indicative of that. All that is happening here is that the BCCI wants to make a scapegoat of these two coaches for the poor performances of the recent past. One is a slam bang T20 World Cup and the other in a knock out trophy - what a fine way to judge performance. Board of Confused Citizens of India-BCCI

  • Alexk400 on October 16, 2009, 13:55 GMT

    For a country like INDIA, with so many divisions, silence of selectors is better. It ia quiet clear dravid was brought to champions trophy as temp to save face of youngsters. Now in batting beauties , they do not need Dravid technical batting. Will they select dravid again if India play outside home? Nope. Selectors are assuming by that time raina and rohit sharma, kohli gets developed

    My concept is simple. To develop any batsman , bring more competition. Bring manish pandey to challenge kohli , Select different players , so others work on their technique on domestic circuits.

    Otherwise all this wunderkids will bat like "Ian Bell" score of 30s and 40s. That is not good enough for international standard to put up score of 250+. In their peak form they score fast 40s and out of form 0s and single digits.

    Domestic competition need more 3 day game to develop these batsman bat long time.

  • Mahesht on October 16, 2009, 13:44 GMT

    India's main problem is its critics. Shane Watson got out to pull shots in most of the league matches in champion's trophy. But there was no immature tv channels etc. in Australia to keep beaming that all day and claim he has a problem playing short balls! He went to become the man who mattered in the semi and final. A couple of pull shots didn't come off in T20 world cup and the indian critics teamed up to declare the real promising talent of india as having huge problems with short balls. Rahul dravid again, is called as a specialist for bowler friendly tracks. A specialist as to what, just hold one end up??? In today's one-days a player with his strike-rate could himself cause instability as he forces even the fresh batsmen to compensate for his strike rate. By dropping dravid, I feel some sense has returned to Indian cricket.

  • SalimLangda on October 16, 2009, 13:37 GMT

    "A senior player has been given reason to feel slighted, while youngsters have been made to feel less sure of their aptitude."

    Oh how tragic! I think you guys in the media invent controversies when none exist. I hope the youngsters manage to recover from this dreadful trauma.

  • Farce-Follower on October 16, 2009, 12:12 GMT

    Extremely distressing. The arrogance with which BCCI treats the entire process is astounding. Who is to blame? The Indian fan of course. He pays through his nose for lousy seats in a stadium, suffers endlessly for a glimpse of his false heroes. And yet never questions the system that treats him with utter contempt. And then there is the media...all sewn up with vested interests. And finally ex-players and commentators...all of whom who are silent because of sweetheart side deals.

  • since7 on October 16, 2009, 11:43 GMT

    I am wondering how hypocritic people can be when they accuse dravid of the gambhir run out?..If dravd was silly,what the hell was gambhir doing when he had enough time to return to the crease?..daydreaming henh!!..HE was too confident that the fielder wont hit that he forgot the basics..by the way,the question is not whether dravid is good enough or not..its about the poor treatment meted out to a player of his stature..Why was he called back and why is he needlessly dropped now?..will people accept it when some other player of similarstature is played around in this way..Dravid is too gentle a person to come out and sling mud at other people..Perhaps,that is why people use this to their advantage ..the author has put down his points very clearly

  • Rydham on October 16, 2009, 11:20 GMT

    It is indeed an absured thing that selectors have not kept faith in Dravid. The same has happened with Ganguly, too. It seems these selectors are now used to do such things. One more strange thing is that why they are not ready to touch to Sachin ?? At any time Sachin can come into the squad and at any time he can leave the squad, too. now it is evident that Sachin is not a fully fit player then they shold have shown the door also to him. Without any logical reason sachin have broken the opening pair of Sehwag and Gambhir - The best pair of India in now-a-days. I think Dravid should understand ASAP that he (Just like Ganguly) is not Sachin and probably that is why he is the soft target always even though making 10,500+ runs in ODIs which itself proves his worth in the team !!!

  • sharma_paaji on October 16, 2009, 11:19 GMT

    I dont think there's any personal politics in this selction panel. Im sure it was the case with the 2 previous (Vengsarkar & More). Those 2 were agenda driven, media hungry & out to prove their points on the sly & had no plans or effective policies (with Greg Chappal running a muck along the way). India has made excellent progress under Srikkant with Kirsten at the helm & we shouldn't forget that. Srikkant is more professional with no agendas or ego. But a dip in performance in major tourneys had made them panic. This doesn't look good. However we must give them the benefit of the doubt for another year & then take stock. The sooner they switch back to long term thinking the better. Else, players will be mentally destroyed with nonsensical musical chairs. BCCI sorting out scheduling issues with a balance between Tests/ODI's/T20s can help so each player is mentored along a pathway with set goals instead of developing a survival mentality. And let there be less media hype for youngsters.

  • bat_bowl_field on October 16, 2009, 11:18 GMT

    i dont think Dravid should have ever been brought back. the young guys have to learn somehow and if there not up to it play some other youngsters, eg. Manish Pandey. and where is Badrinath? is he out of favour with the BCCI?

  • HundredPercentBarcelonista on October 16, 2009, 11:01 GMT

    Awww look at people talking as if Dravid is entitled to being treated "fairly". No one seems to care about his shoddy running (Involved in 3 run outs in 2 innings), inability to pinch singles during the powerplay, or his weak arm.

    It's ridiculous to wonder what our score would have been against Pakistan had he not been there because it's all hypothetical. If you point to his score of 76 I can easily point to Gambhir not being run out.

    Sure the team looked out of sorts in the past few months, but were we really good enough to sustain the run of good form, especially if we lost some key players like we have recently?

  • vibh_ch on October 16, 2009, 10:38 GMT

    Hapless selection policy and the worst possible propaganda by the BCCI and its selectors.How can they even dream of having a world-beating team if they`re going to select players separately for different conditions.No great team had or will follow this policy.If they find a talent with temperament,why not back it to the hilt and then see the result.You got all the great players like this.If dropping Dravid was the wrong time to do so some two years back(when he was 34-35),how is it to bring him now for two tournaments and again drop him.This surely will not give him the idea of why he is being selected,nor does it give the youngsters any confidence.And about sacking two of our own coaches.Its difficult for me to comprehend as to how someone like Prasad who was hailed after T20-2007,England,Australia,for the good performance of bowlers and emergence of young pace bowlers,suddenly is out of favour.Poor guys,him and Robin,worked for 2 years without contract and for peanuts.

  • navdeep79 on October 16, 2009, 9:50 GMT

    Its a real shame for indian criicket for treating one of the legends of indian cricket like that and i think rahul dravid should quit cricket rather then getting disgraced by BCCI He is best technical player in indian team and i donot understand why BCCI consider him unfit for One day Cricket. I donot remember who many one day matches india have won because of him.This just shows how good BCCI is.

    If they want to make a better indian team they need to improve domestic crickets make fast pitches and bring some professionalism in indian cricket which is marred by corruption and politics

  • fanofteamindia on October 16, 2009, 9:22 GMT

    The selectors have done a good job.Dravid was needed to provide that calming influence in the middle order in sawhen there was no viru and yuvi,where scores of 260-270,sometimes 200 is enough.In india you need to score 300 day in day out to win where the younger guys with their better fielding and running between wic will play a bigger role(rd's running in the pak game was pathetic).Also viru and yuvi returning provide the needed experience in the team.The selectors cud have selected sreesanth instead of munaf.But overall it is the best possible 15 they ve selected.

  • Rahul_78 on October 16, 2009, 9:13 GMT

    Mind is willing, skills are there and so is willingness...but body is not allowing. This in short is the story of rahul dravid. 3 run outs in 5 innings explains in no uncertain term that rahul is not equiped to high demads of limited overs game. Gone are the days when rantunga and inzi use to amble through for singles. Just have a look at ausies. Rahul dravid appears very fit but his sprinting is still not upto the mark. And when runing with someone like gambhir or raina it creates lot of confusion while runing. Blemish with selection commitee is that they should have been very clear that because sehwag was not present in champions trophy hence dravid was selected. It would have drawn criticism but would have presented a clarity in thought process. With sehwag and youvraj back it is really difficult for dravid to be accomodated in the team. With prasad all the fast bowlers have gone down hill and no one has imporved and with robin well even raina and rohit have started droping cathes..

  • san_indus on October 16, 2009, 8:25 GMT

    Spare of thought for Abhishek Nayyar as well. Part of the team for six months. Gets 3 ODIs to play without a getting a chance to bat. Then gets dropped.

  • saikrishna28.1989 on October 16, 2009, 8:05 GMT

    How stupid are Indian selectors..This is not the way to dump Rahul Dravid,who has proven all his abilities.Age is not a criteria when compared to their performances.Rahul has even proved his abilities in Twenty20 format.Imagine if Dravid wouldn't have been there in South Africa,what would have been our score against Pak in Champions Trophy.Indian selectors should learn some selection techiniques from Australians.Now question arises is whether Dravid will be selected when India bats in sporty pitches like in Australia or South Africa??????Or when Indian youngsters once again fails in another big tournament??????

  • Abaa on October 16, 2009, 7:50 GMT

    An excellent piece ... A real pity how arguably the most reliable batsman over the last decade is being treated here :-(

  • SatyajitM on October 16, 2009, 7:41 GMT

    It's shoking! I expected better from Srikanth. Either Dravid should not have been selected for ODI in the first place or since he was already selected, he should have been retained for some more time after not so bad performances (better than most of the young brigade). There is every reason for Dravid to feel insulted. Next time (if that happens) the selectors want to protect the baby players and call Dravid for another ODI comeback he should flatly refuse it!

  • iron_maiden007 on October 16, 2009, 7:04 GMT

    what a shame !!! first we had the sourav episode n now we have the rahul episode.. if ever there has been a player who has shaped the fortunes of his team in this decade , is has to be rahul sharad dravid. the pontings, the haydens, the flintofffs, the smiths have all played a huge part in taking their sides to great heights but none better than dravid. Dravid has time and again proved his mettle and there is no doubt in my mind that there is some rift between the " OVER - HYPED " mahendra singh dhoni who has been riding high on zaheer khans, gambhirs, sachins , virus performance in the last 24 months. i dont see a place for raina who does not have the ability to play the bouncer. in fact i would go a step ahead and would surely think of either vss or dravid in the eleven. gambhir, sachin, viru, dravid/vvs, yuvraj, kohli/r sharma, MSD, bhajji, zaheer, rp singh, ishant. this is how the odi side should look like. The fab 4 doesnt exist,however, how we wish they play till eternity !!

  • sgawas on October 16, 2009, 6:35 GMT

    I think this time selectors have taken the right dicision of droping Rahul. Given him chance to make comback he has not done anything dramatic to retain his place in the side.If selectors are thinking of building good side for coming world cup they are thinking in right direction because since the world cup in subcontinent Rahul batting style will not make any good to india

  • abhijeet1in on October 16, 2009, 6:32 GMT

    Why in gods green earth are Virat Kohli and Ishant Sharma in the team? How does the selectors and so called experts think that a bunch of teens doing well in an under-19 tournament is worthy of national call up. Looking for another sachin/dravid/kumble in U-19 circuit, when they themselves got in through playing real domestic cricket, is retarded. Every single guy from U-19 circuit has been a complete loss. Its time to go back to selecting teams on the basis of domestic cricket rather than extravaganzas like U-19 cups, IPL and Challenger Cup. This liking of selectors and people of young players is only going to create a bigger pool of disappointments like irfan pathan. Selectors! do the cricketers (senior and junior) and people who love this game a favor and choose a team on its performance in the present, rather than what you think it could be in 10 years in future.

  • dravid.ian on October 16, 2009, 6:03 GMT

    Fantastic. You've hit the nail square on the head, Siddharth. My blood boiled as I read your piece. The BCCI's arrogance is shocking. It's quite evident that the selectors have neither a plan nor a vision. If even one of these were present, we wouldn't have had this hire-and-fire situation for an unselfish legend like Rahul Dravid.

    We, as fans, have tolerated d BCCI's arrogance 4 far too long - -unending ticket queues at venues, -inhuman seating conditions, bad, choked toilets in stadia -ban on carrying food, water inside (wankhede), -administrators with 0 experience in the sport presiding on team selections -shocking omissions (and selections) in the team (Kaif? Pujara?) n no explanations -No vision, clarity -Utter disregard 4 domestic tournaments n Junior cricketers -Deliberate attempts to kill Tests in favour of T20 -Politicians controlling n screwing d game

    How long do v tolerate this shit? How long b 4 v beat these scoundrels to pulp? @sa_lil on twitter

  • Debu_r on October 16, 2009, 5:23 GMT

    It's a shame for Indian Criclket. Plain and simple. Who dont't respect other can never prosper. that is the fate on Indian Cricket. Conspiracy, rift with each other, betrayal, jealousy is all win here and not a place for courtesy, friendship, unity and strong diplay of cricket is totally missing. this is killer and Indian cricket has no future.

  • TMS8137 on October 16, 2009, 5:21 GMT

    I think Dravid should retire from ALL forms of the game other than test Cricket. This should show the Selection committee that they should not take such a huge player for granted. This is an absolute insult to a player of the stature of Dravid who has been a selfless servant of the BCCI and not Indian team. As everybody knows there is no Indian Team. Do you think anybody else would have agreed to take up the big gloves to provide "balance" to the team? He has performed well for the matches he was called in for and to ignominiously drop him from the squad is absolute rubbish. The BCCI is unfortunately destroying the game we all love. This bunch of greedy sob's are destroying the sport. The Champions league and the IPL are destroying cricketing skills of Indians because we all know we love the quick buck. In other countries around the world nobody offers their players lucrative contracts like India.And so there is competition to improve skills and get the IPl contracts. F U BCCI and MODI

  • Another_brick_in_the_wall on October 16, 2009, 5:16 GMT

    Indian cricket team is the most over hyped team in the entire world. Dhoni had luck when this team won all sorts of tournaments and that seems to be running out pretty quickly. Dhoni himself is a non-performer, he has a very good batting average because of not-outs or runs in a losing cause. He never was a batsman with a great technique and that will remain. Harbhajan is another over hyped cricketer like his pal Sreesanth. Sreesanth is nailed for rather non-cricketing reasons (irony!). Last great performance by Harbhajan was the Kolkata match of 2001. Its been almost a decade !! Zaheer, Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar are the only players that can have a telling effect on a match specially in an ODI. I was surprised when Dravid was selected & stunned when they dropped him. That too when he was the only guy in this wonder team who was performing ! Albeit a little slowly - something is better than nothing ! Vengsarkar & Srikanth themselves weren't great players by any stretch of imagination !

  • Vallam on October 16, 2009, 4:28 GMT

    I only feel sorry for you and those millions of guys who take cricket and these selections seriously.

    Cricket in India is a circus, programmed to milk to TV audience and in the process make everyone playing cricket / administrating cricket rich.

    Do you think Dravid is worried about his non selection- he is a good guy /cricketer - lot more technically sound /committed than those Rainas & the new bunch - so when required when requested to come back, will come & play.

    This does not mean, I don't like cricket. I am fanatic follower and watch even teams from other countries, but with a clear detachment and enjoy the game on that day

  • spindokter on October 16, 2009, 4:27 GMT

    The BCCI have sickened me beyond reasonable limits and I have decided to stop supporting the Indian National Team. I dont see it as a team representing the best 11 players of the country; instead its a group of players who enjoy the loyalties and highly wavering at that too, of a bunch of corrupt inept political cronies of the despot "Sharad Pawar". Neither does he know how to run the richest cricketing board in the world with little or no concrete achievements to speak of, nor the Agriculture Ministry of the country plagued with food supply shortages and rising food prices.

    With the kind of hazy myopic vision shown by the selectors, in all likelihood the downward spiral of the Indian team is going to continue unabated. Australia seem poised to give us a royal hiding in our own backyards, which might sadden the hearts of over a billion people, but hopefully will draw greater criticism on the Inefficient and fraught with corrupt officials, BCCI.

    -SD

  • anand_eco on October 16, 2009, 4:21 GMT

    During my younger days, i was an avid fan of Srikkanth the opener. It was mainly for his unselfish, open attitude while batting. Those attributes seem to have deserted him over time and we are back to the dark days of arbitrary selection, something which Vengsarkar possibly tried his best to address. Just when we were on the brink of being the top team in either form of the game, our selectors, true to form have messed it up!

  • DaredevilsUnlimited on October 16, 2009, 4:19 GMT

    It is now confirmed Ravi Shastri's observations that the present selection committee is taking instructions from Vengasarkar in needling Rahul. Despite better perfornance than Sachin, Dhoni's( 3 ball play against Pak),Raina, etall Rahul has been dropped against all natural justice.Dhoni including himself along with his croonies should be facing road roller after the dismal performances in ICC tournments. Now these johnnies will get to play on the sleeping beuty type of Indian wickets and boost their averages to get ICCawards

  • Natx on October 16, 2009, 4:17 GMT

    It's time to fire dhoni and BCCI aka the destroyers of cricket. Dhoni is more in news for wrong reasons - rift with shewag, dravid, and sooner or later tendulkar. He seems to be more obsessed with off the field activities than on the field achievements. As a captain, look at the likes of ponting who scores century after century and pull a team of youngsters together. Look at the likes of dhoni and yuvraj who fail 9/10 and score an odd 50 here and there and the whole country go ga-ga after them.

  • idontknowidontcare on October 16, 2009, 4:07 GMT

    See, its not that complicated. The BCCI realises that the big money is in the Twenty20. By selecting a inept team for the 50-over games, they would be hoping that India lose all the games, and then the spectators would step up demand to stop the 50-over format. Then, the BCCI can say some b*ll*** like "The people do not want the 50-over game, and ultimately it is the spectators who would decide the fate of the game, so keeping in mind the interests of the spectators, we are going to have two editions of IPL each year, etc. etc." Seriously, does anyone believe that the BCCI or the ICC is out there thinking about what is good for the game?

  • sysubrceq0 on October 16, 2009, 4:01 GMT

    Known fact proved again..Indian selectors are bunch of jokers!!!! Select a legend on testing conditions in SA and fared well than others and drop him without any proper reason, atleast they could have rested him(again on waht basis to rest)... Poor Dravid, why the heck the selectors chosen him and again why dropped him? he is no use and throw player.... he is more than a legend 10K+ runs in both format and doing well in T20 in IPL for RBC. IMO, India cannot be No: 1 if they dont have proper planning of team selection. Why jadeja selected? we all saw what he did in T20 world cup..cant able to rotate strike in T20 and he chosen for ODI... Dravid, whenever you get a chance play well and retire gracefully than getting dropped.

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  • sysubrceq0 on October 16, 2009, 4:01 GMT

    Known fact proved again..Indian selectors are bunch of jokers!!!! Select a legend on testing conditions in SA and fared well than others and drop him without any proper reason, atleast they could have rested him(again on waht basis to rest)... Poor Dravid, why the heck the selectors chosen him and again why dropped him? he is no use and throw player.... he is more than a legend 10K+ runs in both format and doing well in T20 in IPL for RBC. IMO, India cannot be No: 1 if they dont have proper planning of team selection. Why jadeja selected? we all saw what he did in T20 world cup..cant able to rotate strike in T20 and he chosen for ODI... Dravid, whenever you get a chance play well and retire gracefully than getting dropped.

  • idontknowidontcare on October 16, 2009, 4:07 GMT

    See, its not that complicated. The BCCI realises that the big money is in the Twenty20. By selecting a inept team for the 50-over games, they would be hoping that India lose all the games, and then the spectators would step up demand to stop the 50-over format. Then, the BCCI can say some b*ll*** like "The people do not want the 50-over game, and ultimately it is the spectators who would decide the fate of the game, so keeping in mind the interests of the spectators, we are going to have two editions of IPL each year, etc. etc." Seriously, does anyone believe that the BCCI or the ICC is out there thinking about what is good for the game?

  • Natx on October 16, 2009, 4:17 GMT

    It's time to fire dhoni and BCCI aka the destroyers of cricket. Dhoni is more in news for wrong reasons - rift with shewag, dravid, and sooner or later tendulkar. He seems to be more obsessed with off the field activities than on the field achievements. As a captain, look at the likes of ponting who scores century after century and pull a team of youngsters together. Look at the likes of dhoni and yuvraj who fail 9/10 and score an odd 50 here and there and the whole country go ga-ga after them.

  • DaredevilsUnlimited on October 16, 2009, 4:19 GMT

    It is now confirmed Ravi Shastri's observations that the present selection committee is taking instructions from Vengasarkar in needling Rahul. Despite better perfornance than Sachin, Dhoni's( 3 ball play against Pak),Raina, etall Rahul has been dropped against all natural justice.Dhoni including himself along with his croonies should be facing road roller after the dismal performances in ICC tournments. Now these johnnies will get to play on the sleeping beuty type of Indian wickets and boost their averages to get ICCawards

  • anand_eco on October 16, 2009, 4:21 GMT

    During my younger days, i was an avid fan of Srikkanth the opener. It was mainly for his unselfish, open attitude while batting. Those attributes seem to have deserted him over time and we are back to the dark days of arbitrary selection, something which Vengsarkar possibly tried his best to address. Just when we were on the brink of being the top team in either form of the game, our selectors, true to form have messed it up!

  • spindokter on October 16, 2009, 4:27 GMT

    The BCCI have sickened me beyond reasonable limits and I have decided to stop supporting the Indian National Team. I dont see it as a team representing the best 11 players of the country; instead its a group of players who enjoy the loyalties and highly wavering at that too, of a bunch of corrupt inept political cronies of the despot "Sharad Pawar". Neither does he know how to run the richest cricketing board in the world with little or no concrete achievements to speak of, nor the Agriculture Ministry of the country plagued with food supply shortages and rising food prices.

    With the kind of hazy myopic vision shown by the selectors, in all likelihood the downward spiral of the Indian team is going to continue unabated. Australia seem poised to give us a royal hiding in our own backyards, which might sadden the hearts of over a billion people, but hopefully will draw greater criticism on the Inefficient and fraught with corrupt officials, BCCI.

    -SD

  • Vallam on October 16, 2009, 4:28 GMT

    I only feel sorry for you and those millions of guys who take cricket and these selections seriously.

    Cricket in India is a circus, programmed to milk to TV audience and in the process make everyone playing cricket / administrating cricket rich.

    Do you think Dravid is worried about his non selection- he is a good guy /cricketer - lot more technically sound /committed than those Rainas & the new bunch - so when required when requested to come back, will come & play.

    This does not mean, I don't like cricket. I am fanatic follower and watch even teams from other countries, but with a clear detachment and enjoy the game on that day

  • Another_brick_in_the_wall on October 16, 2009, 5:16 GMT

    Indian cricket team is the most over hyped team in the entire world. Dhoni had luck when this team won all sorts of tournaments and that seems to be running out pretty quickly. Dhoni himself is a non-performer, he has a very good batting average because of not-outs or runs in a losing cause. He never was a batsman with a great technique and that will remain. Harbhajan is another over hyped cricketer like his pal Sreesanth. Sreesanth is nailed for rather non-cricketing reasons (irony!). Last great performance by Harbhajan was the Kolkata match of 2001. Its been almost a decade !! Zaheer, Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar are the only players that can have a telling effect on a match specially in an ODI. I was surprised when Dravid was selected & stunned when they dropped him. That too when he was the only guy in this wonder team who was performing ! Albeit a little slowly - something is better than nothing ! Vengsarkar & Srikanth themselves weren't great players by any stretch of imagination !

  • TMS8137 on October 16, 2009, 5:21 GMT

    I think Dravid should retire from ALL forms of the game other than test Cricket. This should show the Selection committee that they should not take such a huge player for granted. This is an absolute insult to a player of the stature of Dravid who has been a selfless servant of the BCCI and not Indian team. As everybody knows there is no Indian Team. Do you think anybody else would have agreed to take up the big gloves to provide "balance" to the team? He has performed well for the matches he was called in for and to ignominiously drop him from the squad is absolute rubbish. The BCCI is unfortunately destroying the game we all love. This bunch of greedy sob's are destroying the sport. The Champions league and the IPL are destroying cricketing skills of Indians because we all know we love the quick buck. In other countries around the world nobody offers their players lucrative contracts like India.And so there is competition to improve skills and get the IPl contracts. F U BCCI and MODI

  • Debu_r on October 16, 2009, 5:23 GMT

    It's a shame for Indian Criclket. Plain and simple. Who dont't respect other can never prosper. that is the fate on Indian Cricket. Conspiracy, rift with each other, betrayal, jealousy is all win here and not a place for courtesy, friendship, unity and strong diplay of cricket is totally missing. this is killer and Indian cricket has no future.