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Harmeet Singh and Unmukt Chand ready for internationals

Keeping them down at the Under-19 level to improve India's chances at winning the World Cup isn't right

Ian Chappell

August 26, 2012

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Harmeet Singh bowls, India v Pakistan, quarter-final, ICC Under-19 World Cup 2012, Townsville, August 20, 2012
India may have found their next Bishan Bedi in Harmeet Singh but will they handle him right? © ICC/Getty
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The first thing that strikes you about the ICC Under-19 World Cup is that the young fast bowlers are well ahead of the batsmen in their development. But there's one striking exception: the tantalising talents of Indian left-arm orthodox spinner Harmeet Singh. He bowls like Bishen Bedi, with that same natural flight and guile that would right now place him as the best spin bowler in any Test side bar England. Harmeet has the skills to be a successful spinner, and only needs to develop the necessary temperament to handle the tough environment of international cricket and have a sympathetic captain.

That leads to the question: is the U-19 competition the right career path to the top level? It is, for the bulk of the players, a few of whom will make it to international cricket, while the majority will fade away to life as an obscure Trivial Pursuit question. However, it's not the right thoroughfare for exceptional talents like Harmeet and one or two other players on show in Townsville.

The very best players need to be constantly challenged from a young age, and that means regularly being upgraded when they have success at a lower level. I recall an exasperated Rod Marsh, when he was head coach at the Australian Academy, blurting out: "Thank heavens for Tasmania." When I asked why, he replied: "They pick young players on ability, not age." Tasmania's selectorial wisdom resulted in the fast-tracking of David Boon and Ricky Ponting.

That's why the big money needs to be spent on finding the right selectors rather than being lavished on a small-town population of coaches who often make decisions to justify their existence rather than in the best interests of the players.

A cricketer like Harmeet will stagnate if he's left for too long at a lower level, because that leads to sloppy habits. Harmeet is ready to be considered for national selection.

The other U-19 player in that category is the India captain Unmukt Chand. He's a very talented batsman and should also be consistently plying his trade at a higher level. Both Harmeet and Chand have played first-class cricket but it isn't doing their games any good to participate in an U-19 World Cup even if it does help India win the trophy. There's always a temptation to win another trophy but it mustn't be done at the cost of a young player's development. Rodney was right. Players must be chosen for their skill level, not their age.

India are the envy of the other major nations. Their best young batsmen - in Townsville and at home - are technically better than most of their counterparts from the other Test-playing nations. All that Indian players need is regular exposure to bouncy surfaces against strong opposition and the national team's recent travails in England and Australia will soon be a thing of the past.

Australia, on the other hand, seem to be going through a period of producing solid but unspectacular batsmanship. It's unclear at the top level where the next Ponting or Michael Clarke will come from, and that picture becomes no clearer after watching their U-19s play.

Cricket needs artistic and dominant batsmen of varying styles but the future in that regard is not looking so rosy. Are the right methods being used to develop young batsmen?

I'd like to see an alternative option provided where young batsmen get the opportunity to develop along the lines of Sachin Tendulkar and other successful international batsmen. That way they play a lot of pick-up matches, either on a maidan, in a backyard or on a street, and develop naturally so they don't look like they have dropped off the end of a coaching conveyor belt.

Young batsmen who have to face the likes of Harmeet Singh are going to need sharp footwork and agile brains. I don't see the current method where a young player has to endure hours of structured net sessions and endless deliveries from a bowling machine producing batsmen with those capabilities.

Former Australia captain Ian Chappell is now a cricket commentator and columnist

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Posted by Selassie-I on (August 29, 2012, 13:54 GMT)

As usual Chappel is wrong in most of what he says.. I'd rate Amjal as the best spinner around at the mo, not Swanny(I am English too) probably Herath after with Swann in 3rd.. joint with Rehman at the moment. I don't know how he can say this young fellow would decamp any spinner in the world, bar Swann, at the moment when he's never been truly tested. The only thing he's right about is that Australia's cupboard is BARE!

Posted by shillingsworth on (August 28, 2012, 14:53 GMT)

@LillianThomson - Your comments about Oxbridge belong to a bygone era. The players you mention studied at Oxbridge at least 40 years ago. The idea that young Indians need to attend foreign universities to learn about leadership is absurd as India has many fine academic institutions of its own. Your belief in Oxbridge as a source of cricketing education is also somewhat outdated - how many English county cricketers, let alone international players, were educated there?

Posted by mrcool on (August 28, 2012, 11:35 GMT)

Robin uthappa is more capable player compared to chand but selectors spoiled his career.

Posted by Jack_Tka on (August 28, 2012, 7:14 GMT)

The best spinner in the world right now is SAEED AJMAL (Pak) followed by HERATH(SL). Every other spinner(including SWANN) is average and can be good in favourable conditions or may be once in a while. So Harmeet Singh is out of contention right now when Ashwin/Ojha are doing pretty well for India. Regarding Unmukt, with Sehwag/Gambhir, I don't see him getting a chance. Gi8ving him a chance means benching either one of the openers which might lead to some turbulent environment within the Indian team.

Posted by PointFielder on (August 28, 2012, 5:40 GMT)

There is half justification in what Chappell says. That is a promising player should be promoted and developed. However, i doubt the promotion should happen from U-19 to international level.Harmeet might even struggle in Deodhar / C K Nayyudu trophies or even in ranji. Have we tested him there? No. Why is there so much hurry? Is it because of the excitement? I remember it was Ian Chapell who said Dumminy will be a great batsman after his performances against Australia. I think he is doing the same mistake again.There is at the most a probable of 30 in preparatory camps. Should India overlook Ashwin, Ojha, Rahul, Harby, Chawla, Iqbal etc. Not to mention many other established Ranji spinners who cannot make even the Challengers squads. Apart from that has he considered that in Ranji 2011, Indian pacers were more successful than spinners and they are knocking the door as well for places in the bowling attack.

Posted by   on (August 28, 2012, 0:28 GMT)

@PACERONE... your criteria for declaring a pitch to be flat or bouncy is laughing stock... if India clicks then its flat and if they loose wickets (even by playing wrong/adventurous shots) then the wicket is termed as fast and bouncy.... In final, Australia did struggle initially and were 38/4 only to be rescued by very good batting by next few batsmen... how can you term it as a flat wicket... and then it was good batting display by indian colts and took the cup.... I remember the similar comments for the second ODI in recently concluded IND-SL series... it was poor shot selection and batsmen played adventurously and did loose wickets.. the batsmen played poorly and rightly so we lost the match... howcome that alone pitch became a sporty/bouncy wicket while the rest 4 simply flat.. grow up mate..

Posted by Champ2000 on (August 27, 2012, 20:40 GMT)

Apples to Oranges. Harmit looks good but without even playing single test he can not be number 2. Sammy ebign number 1 is debatable and perhaps only proved with last ashes data. what about ajmal, herath, tahir, aswin..

I think MR Chappel is trying to cricket sirr here.. Or perhaps have more reader, it in fashin to say good things about indian players when they achive even little similar saying only good things about SRT (No disprespect)

Posted by StatisticsRocks on (August 27, 2012, 17:15 GMT)

I think Ian is trying to stir up a controversy by claiming Harmeet the best spin bolwer in the world. If he means at the U19 level then I might agree but to compare Harmeet with senior cricketers without having played at the same level is a bit too pre mature to me. Harmeet definitely has talent and only time will tell whether he can be a successfull test match bowler or not. As far as Unmukt's batting abilities are concerned, it's no surprise as India always has and always will produce batting talents like Unmukt, but the biggest concern is no fast bowler in near sight or even in the blind spot. Sandeep Sharma looked good at U19 level but doubt if he can get same level of success. For all those who are behind SRT don;t forget when many were playing U19 SRT at 16 was facing the likes of GR8 Wasim Akram and Waqar. Thats special. Finally @RandyOz: pl get a hobby

Posted by   on (August 27, 2012, 16:44 GMT)

@uksar think you missed the match..aussie pacers bowled at 140 odd and beyond,and the bounce was even odder.their bowlers are really good.better than a few test playing nations' bowling attack

Posted by jay57870 on (August 27, 2012, 16:03 GMT)

Ian - Not so fast! Prophet Chappell's making premature predictions again! This may shock Ian, but his "best spin bowler in any Test side bar England" - Graeme Swann (?) - debuted at an over-ripe age of 29! Others: Imran Tahir at 32 & Saeed Ajmal at 31! Even Ponting at 21 & Clarke at 23 were not fast-trackers. Sure there's a place for late bloomers: Whither Australia without the Husseys in internationals around age 30? So much for Ian's voodoo rites of "stagnate ... leads to sloppy habits"! He has used the "Age" card to coerce players to retire. How wrong he was re: Tendulkar with his "Mirror, Mirror on the wall" dictum in 2007! Now he's quick on the draw with "Pick young players on ability, not age"! Recall his prophecy of Duminy as the "next big thing"? India's still waiting for Rohit Sharma to break through. Yes, Harmeet & Chand are exceptional U-19 players. Like Kohli & Pujara they'll break into internationals, but only when they're ready. For their sake: Don't rush them, Ian!

Posted by swan_is_ordinary on (August 27, 2012, 15:53 GMT)

@ woodhaven24,,,,,i completly agree.... i think that india has won the world cup, everyone has started praising the players....take taruwar kohli for example.... he performed very well in 2008 u-19 wc....but now no 1 knows wherez he with his cricket

Posted by JustIPL on (August 27, 2012, 15:25 GMT)

Wonderful new talent certainly a gust of fresh air. They should be graduated to A-Team status, atleast five of them and rest from the current bench strength of Indian team. This is the beauty of U19 cricket as some exciting talent comes through. I remember Kohli was also a winning U19 captain.

Posted by bigdhonifan on (August 27, 2012, 14:55 GMT)

I agree with Ian except callign Swann as worlds best. I rate Ajmal and Aswin much ahead of Swann.

Posted by   on (August 27, 2012, 13:44 GMT)

its too early to call for Unmukt or Harmeet as they both need to be consistent in domestic as well as in IPL.,.,lets hope for a better bowler than a batsman

Posted by vibbaxi on (August 27, 2012, 13:38 GMT)

@Emancipator007. You clearly have strong views. It would be nice if you would not hide behind a pseudonym! At least that would carry more credibility!

Posted by g.narsimha on (August 27, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

Few are are furious, how could an INDIAN spinneris rated as second best by IAN CHAPPEL , bieng an purist he might have been iclined towards unblemished raw talent rather than some so called greats with suspected ation

Posted by MunafAhmed811 on (August 27, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

I agree..Chand can be put in place of Rohit Sharma ( talented but out of form guy) who should be asked to go play county and Ranji. If Kohli and Chand alongwith Pujara click then we have this generations fab3 in place. Harmeet looks good and if selectors are going to recall Bhajji they might as well select Harmeet who at worse will perform on par as Bhaji ..better but surely not lesser. Or else Harmeet should be coached by Maninder/Bedi for a year before handing him debut.Baba looks like a very good test prospect who can bowl 10 -15 overs of economical overs in a day with occasional partnership breaking wickets and a very calm reliable batsman who can take Rainas place.

Posted by woodhaven on (August 27, 2012, 11:11 GMT)

Now they become champion and people start praising left and right. They lost against west indies and struggle almost in everymatch. Harmeet and chwnd is not even top 10bowler or batsman. Luckily they won cup

Posted by fsdb on (August 27, 2012, 9:29 GMT)

Ian - you were right when you said India did not have the bowling attack to be no:1. You were right when you said selectors were stupid to drop Sehwag for the last Australian tour. And you are right now when you say selectors should not leave Chand and Harmeet languishing in the teenage divisions. After all, was 15 year old Sachin Tendulkar playing under 19 cricket in 1989? Ian we owe you an insurmountable debt of gratitude for your singleminded advocacy of attacking cricket over the years

Posted by   on (August 27, 2012, 8:44 GMT)

yha ur right IAN CHAPPELL SIR

Posted by   on (August 27, 2012, 8:32 GMT)

Wishing them best of luck for their Bright Future........

Posted by   on (August 27, 2012, 8:22 GMT)

Harmit and Unmukt, if they play for CSK in the next IPL, will be in India team soon....

Posted by mathewjohn2176 on (August 27, 2012, 6:20 GMT)

Posted by WickyRoy.paklover on (August 27 2012, 03:15 AM GMT),This one is a better combo.. SAMI ASLAM= UMAR AKMAL.

Posted by Emancipator007 on (August 27, 2012, 6:18 GMT)

@LilleeThomo:Another fact u overlooking about Dravid,VVS,Tendu are their superb batting records in the countries mentioned, esp. Tend,VVS with RD being superb in Eng. And SRT is barely educated &still ended up being the most talented bat of all time (diff from greatest, mind u!), but of course average leader. U also overlooking the lack of incisive, penetrative Indian bowling resources to create wins on the strength of their runs. Sehwag's magnum opus blitzing 195 in Melbourne'03 should have resulted in a win. So also SRT's 241 and Lax's 148 in Sydney in'04 but for India's bowling.Hardly any of Haydos, S Waugh, Ponting's 100s or Viv/Greenidge's100s have gone waste courtesy the bowling strengths of their teams. Imran himself had at his disposal Sarfraz/Wasim/Waqar/Qadir to effect victories. If you are relentlessly ambitious like Lara,Gavaskar were (both thinking themselves no less than Bradman), you don't need Brit education to achieve stupendously in international cricket.

Posted by Emancipator007 on (August 27, 2012, 6:04 GMT)

@LilliThom:I know you as a well-reasoned,unbiased commenter on cricinfo forums. But u overdoing the Brit Univ education as a necessary lever for success as a cricket leader & a human. The best technician since the War, Gavaskar was educated in Mumbai Univ & was one of the most astute leaders going around, but for the bowling resources at his command (for him draw was the next best option to wins).He mastered all conditions (though'80s record in Eng not as good as his superb '70s record).Calcutta Univ-educated Ganguly, modern India's greatest leader(in the Border mold of building a team and making it resolutely competitive) did very well in Eng conditions (Av. 65) and not too bad over 3 OZ tours (embellished by that coruscating 144 at Brisbane which gave subsequent captains Smith and Strauss the impetus to challenge OZ domination after India's drawn series in '03).Both Sunny,Gang had only short stints in county cricket. I agree though that Asif,Majid,Zaheer,Imran leant a lot on county

Posted by   on (August 27, 2012, 5:57 GMT)

I dont think Harmeet is ready, but Unmukt is certainly ready for the big league, i think he should be picked as an optional batsmen in the T20 World cup Squad, just to have a International Dressing room exposure, which will definitely gonna help him in start of his International career sooner or later.

Posted by   on (August 27, 2012, 5:45 GMT)

Chand is undoubtedly the next big thing after Virat... and Babar Azam can be much better than his cousin Umar Akmal!

Posted by   on (August 27, 2012, 5:36 GMT)

Chand is brilliant but Harmeet Singh may not be that successful when playing with the boys. But nevertheless, these players needs to be given proper exposure at an early age... NOW!

Posted by   on (August 27, 2012, 4:31 GMT)

unmunkt Chand will be another kohli, i was not satisfied with him all series, as a captain he played okay, but this knock 111 not out in the final against austrilla in austrilla, i am sure with proper training he can become another kohli. baba is good also but he will likely not get a chance as indian middle order is pretty much set, and the return of yuvi. Chand also opens, so he can easily replace virender sehwag, who is simply a throw away wicket everytime now, and he is not athletic either its time india let him go.

Posted by Captain_Oblivious on (August 27, 2012, 4:22 GMT)

Whether you agree or disagree with Ian Chappell, you have to admire his conviction. Massive, massive call he's made there on Harmeet Singh, but respect for not doing any fence-sitting. On another point, I'm often amused seeing comments here where Aussie pitches are described as 'green-tops', when all I saw last summer was yellowish wickets with a touch of grass. Something tells me they haven't seen a real green-top before!

Posted by himanshu.team on (August 27, 2012, 3:36 GMT)

While calling Harmeet the second best spin bowler of the world is way too much of praise, the point that Ian is making is very significant. Young talents need not be wasted. Particularly in India where we are still struggling to replace Kumble and Bhajji (even Bhajji himself is now finding it hard to be the bowler he was). Therefore, it is absolutely critical that Harmeet be trained and exposed to international cricket as soon as possible. I am not saying that he be selected for India straightaway, but he should be groomed to play for India pretty soon. Same goes for Unmukt. All upcoming batsmen must be asked to play county cricket in England for at least a couple of seasons. Only then can we hope of getting batsmen who can truly replace the likes of Dravid, Sachin and Laxman.

Posted by uksar on (August 27, 2012, 3:20 GMT)

Chand is looking good at this level.It would be interesting to see how copes with the international bowler when the ball comes at 140 km/h odds.

Posted by WickyRoy.paklover on (August 27, 2012, 3:15 GMT)

UNMUKT CHAND=ANOTHR ROHIT SHARMA,

Posted by LillianThomson on (August 27, 2012, 2:56 GMT)

Chappelli has got a bit carried away about Harmeet's quality, but his point is important. Players like Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Shane Warne and even Michael Clarke did their learning and development on the job in Test cricket. The best players learn fast, while very few top bowlers emerge because of domestic first class cricket - Philander is probably the main one from the last twenty years - and batsmen who learn their trade in India effectively learn how NOT to bat in Australia, South Africa, England and New Zealand. India has just had their greatest ever generation of batsmen, yet their time at the top of the rankings was just 20 months, not even a year longer than England's embarrassing tenure. Hopefully Chand and Harmeet can do better.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (August 27, 2012, 2:30 GMT)

Really, Mr. Chappel? You write that Harmeet Singh would the best spin bowler in any Test side bar England. By what standard would you make that judgement? The top test spinner in the rankings is Pakistan's Saeed Ajmal, immediately followed by Sri Lanka's Rangana Herath. The nearest English spin bowler is ranked 150 points LOWER than Ajmal. Swann - if that is the bowler you are referring to - was DROPPED for the 2nd SA test, and bested by SA's Imran Tahir over the series. Of the ODI spin bowlers, Hafeez, Ajmal and Ashwin all rank ahead of any English spin bowler. I don't see Harmeet Singh making the Pakistan team, or edging Narine in the Windies lineup. R Ashwin looks really secure along with Ojha in India's lineup. Now Australia - well they could use some spin, no question about that.

Posted by cricket4every on (August 27, 2012, 2:25 GMT)

@laxmanrules......agree with u boss.

Posted by caught_knott_bowled_old on (August 27, 2012, 1:50 GMT)

This article is significant for many reasons. Its bold and blunt. Ian Chappell has unequivocally called out the talent of Harmeet Singh as the second best spinner in the world. High praise indeed. He has also called out the value of playing matches rather than be stuck in the nets. So, so true. Super article Ian.

Posted by LillianThomson on (August 27, 2012, 1:04 GMT)

laxmanrules, I'm not just being a snob about British universities. Throughout their history Indian batsmen have struggled against the moving ball and on bouncy wickets. Laxman, Dravid, Tendulkar and Sehwag now finish their careers having never won a Test series in either South Africa or Australia. Imran Khan has always been clear that Oxford didn't just provide an education but also taught him to lead prominent men and to bat and bowl in conditions conducive to seam and swing. People like Imran and Majid Khan played more cricket in English conditions from a young age than their English equivalents did, and it prepared them to play anywhere in the world. Chand is an amazing prospect, and I'd love India to have him as a batsman capable of mastering all conditions. If Strauss or Flower had had that sort of leadership experience they might have proved better at managing Pietersen.

Posted by   on (August 27, 2012, 0:01 GMT)

Very insightful last paragraph.

Posted by Naresh28 on (August 26, 2012, 23:35 GMT)

BCCI should now learn an important point from this U19 tournament, Green tops will aid our bowlers. I suggest we should have a 80% (spin friendly) and 20% greentop pitch for test matche series at home. Sandeep must have liked swinging the ball on those pitches and turned out to be a success.

Posted by Naresh28 on (August 26, 2012, 23:33 GMT)

From all the comments one can see that Indian cricket is in good hands. We have plenty of talent and unfortunetly there is only 11 spots in a team. We talk of some of these U19 players making the next grade, however there are previous U19's like MANDEEP SINGH in the waiting. He is a batsman that can handle pace bowling. So far from the new crop we have got Kholi, Pujara coming thru. Chand is definetly ready for the senior team as an openner. I feel that the next WC in Oz will see ROHIT SHARMA emerge as a champ. It is the type of game he likes.

Posted by laxmanrules on (August 26, 2012, 23:31 GMT)

stunned to see people asking Chand to go to England to study. What non-sense. He's doing well at the Indian equivalent of Christchurch. Granted, it has yielded the likes of Arun Lal, but still.

Have to say that Chapell has conveniently ignored the fact that both Harmeet and Chand play domestic cricket and have done only reasonably well. If only judged by their performances, they are far from playing for India. Very promising youngsters, yes. Chand needs to outdo M.Vijay and Abhinav Mukund for the opening spot to be even considered for an India cap. Harmeet does look fantastic. But, with Ojha already established and doing extremely well, I doubt if he'll get a shot either. They'll both get a fat IPL pay and should be happy with that to start with.

Posted by onphel1 on (August 26, 2012, 23:24 GMT)

This is a wonderful article by Ian. If he has spotted talents, THEN HE HAS SPOTTED TALENTS! I hope Harmeet Singh and Unmukt Chand are selected to play for Indian Premier League where they get their financial security and most importantly to be able rub shoulders with the world's best players in that tournament would do a world of good for the youngsters.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 22:56 GMT)

Unfair to say Swann is the best spinner in the world. Not even in the top 10 anymore. Surely Ajmal is higher these days

Posted by LillianThomson on (August 26, 2012, 22:24 GMT)

@Clarke501, universities in the USA and Oxford and Cambridge in the UK have since time immemorial had programs for elite sportsmen. Obviously US universities are not hotbeds of cricket, but Oxford and Cambridge are, and have not just schooled captains of England but of India, Pakistan and the West Indies too. Kumar Sangakkara stands out today as an intelligent, highly educated cricketer. I think India would get the best out of Chand if he can be similarly educated. he doesn't need to be playing T20 and ODIs at this age - I'd prefer him to captain Cambridge and get experience of managing successful and wealthy men.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 22:06 GMT)

@DavidPK - Please let me know what did OZ win in subcontinent in recent past ? A 0-2 drubbing in tests ?, A world cup quarter final exit ? what is your Ponting's average on subcontinent pitches ? Who is your best spinner ? come on mate ...

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 22:00 GMT)

I would like to see people, who commented about India being the weaker side before the finals. Indians are not just the flat track bullies as we have seen how well Unmukt and Smit has batted today. If this match has been played in India, they would have got to the target in below 25 overs.If you dont trust me, search for the articles where Indian U19 team (read Unmukt and Manan Vohra) chased down 167 runs in 12 overs against the same OZ team.I bet Unmukt is the next big thing in Indian cricket.He got the game, the looks and the attitude to become a poster boy in next couple of years.Mark my words - Cheers

Posted by ygkd on (August 26, 2012, 21:44 GMT)

What Chappell says should be obvious to almost anyone who cares about the game. Harmeet and Unmukt are clearly ready for greater things. I hope they do not stagnate in the IPL, which will make them wealthy enough but not entirely fulfil their rich potential. Australia? Our side was good but not that good and that included, ultimately, the fielding.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 21:18 GMT)

Barring the hyperbole around Harmeet, i do think him and unmukt should be fast tracked. I mean look, the worst thing that can happen if unmukt is pushed ahead is we dont have to live through the disaster that is manoj tiwari and badrinath.

Posted by cricfan21 on (August 26, 2012, 20:36 GMT)

@shayan - its understood about srilanka they do have options but for pak Saeed Ajmal is already 34+, not sure whether he would even complete his 200 test wkts !!! lol :)

Posted by Number_5 on (August 26, 2012, 20:30 GMT)

Interesting thoughts Chappelli. I have really enjoyed watching this tournament, especially seeing some of the up and coming players from around the globe. Whilst Ian may be right in his ascertain that talented players need to be challenged to continue their development, he also hits on another valid point through his siting of Rod Marsh. Cricket selections can be more political than politics some time. That to me, is our (Australia's) biggest issue at the moment and the one that is driving many talented players away from the game into more lucrative winter sports (AFL, League & Union). Congratulations to team India and bet of luck to all the young players we have seen during this tournament.

Posted by warneneverchuck on (August 26, 2012, 20:06 GMT)

Can anybody tel me Wen was the last time any team from subcomtinent other than India ever reach to no 1 in test

Posted by promal on (August 26, 2012, 20:06 GMT)

Come on, Chappell! I don't think Swann is the best spinner in the world any longer; it has to be Ajmal nowadays!

Posted by warneneverchuck on (August 26, 2012, 20:02 GMT)

We r champion agaiannnnnnnnnnnnnn. Yes

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 19:49 GMT)

its really funny to see too many comments on Ian's comment about the Harmeet and rest of spinners rather than commenting about the article itself...just shows where our priorities lie.

Posted by shillingsworth on (August 26, 2012, 19:25 GMT)

@LillianThomson - Odd suggestion. The days of young men from the colonies attending British universities to play cricket and learn to be leaders of men have long gone. They have some pretty good universities in India these days I believe but I imagine that they expect people to study and pass exams rather than playing cricket for several months a year.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 18:35 GMT)

some people here from across are a classic example of sour grapes...they think the Indian U-19 team fields players over 19....by that logic, Afridi is still 17 and should actually captain their U-19 side....

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 18:14 GMT)

RandyOZ: Harbhajan Singh will take 10 wickets against Australia every match in India, even in his 70s!

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 17:34 GMT)

lol! harmeet can get into any team bar england! what a joke! Pakistan has ajmal and rehman, so i'll say bar Pakistan...and maybe srilanka too, they have herath who is very good

Posted by Asim on (August 26, 2012, 17:32 GMT)

chand the Next Big thing after Virat!

Posted by Mustafa007 on (August 26, 2012, 17:24 GMT)

Any free advise from Ian is worth noting and having an action plan for. I wouldn't play Unmukt & Harmeet in ODI & T20 at all. That is where we have lost our last generation of players Yuvraj, Raina, etc. I am afraid that even Kohli is falling into the same trap. Mind you Kohli is a different player compared to UV/Raina but I have not seen the hunger for test runs in him as much I have seen in Pujara but Kohli's ready to learn attitude will make him successful.

Unmukt & Harmeet should go straight to NCA and be drafted to India A team with no delays.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 17:20 GMT)

Good article , I may not necessarily agree with the assessment that the two individuals are ready for national duty, but couldnt agree more with IC when he says these guys should be playing top level cricket already (at least a couple of games a series) and for heavens sake not IPL or even ODI's.

Posted by bumsonseats on (August 26, 2012, 16:49 GMT)

its the only thing you will ever win in australia. indians do not have the bottle to win, as the aussies are two much in your face to win, you had your chances in the early 000s, and will never have a stronger team than those days. weak as the aussies are these days.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 16:27 GMT)

I think Bosisto has the skills and the empowerment play at a higher level. Looks, he might go thru Australia's A team and get into the senior team pretty soon. If it doesn't happen, it will be a shame! Ian's comments about Harmmet is equally true for Bosisto.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 16:12 GMT)

I like his thought - 'I'd like to see an alternative option provided where young batsmen get the opportunity to develop along the lines of Sachin Tendulkar and other successful international batsmen. That way they play a lot of pick-up matches, either on a maidan, in a backyard or on a street, and develop naturally so they don't look like they have dropped off the end of a coaching conveyor belt. Young batsmen who have to face the likes of Harmeet Singh are going to need sharp footwork and agile brains. I don't see the current method where a young player has to endure hours of structured net sessions and endless deliveries from a bowling machine producing batsmen with those capabilities'. Hes talking about blooding youngsters and give them an environment which will only make them better, and put up a challenge for other teams. They are the future,& BCCI should be thinking on those lines, looking @ the bigger picture, not just winning the next U-19 World Cup. Srikanth & Co listening ?

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 15:55 GMT)

Congratulations to our Under 19 team; this victory is all the more satisfying since it has been earned far away from home in the hard pitches Down - Under.

Every single thing that Mr. Chapelle has spoken about the Indian Under 19 team is correct. I saw the game on Sky Sports and found Mr. Chapelle's praise and fears about these promising players are genuine. Also, it was good to note people discussing about the age of cricketers being blooded into the Indian squad. Sachin Tendulkar and Kapil Dev made their debut at 16 and 19 respectively. As far as I remember, Wasim Akram made his debut for Pakistan in his teens. All these players mentioned were prodigiously talented were well nurtured and guided by the team management.

The likes of Harmeet Singh and Unmukt Chand as Mr. Chapelle states are ready to go to the next level; but, what scares me is what good will it do to their confidence if they were made to warm the benches and carry drinks for the 11 on the ground for days.

Posted by Nampally on (August 26, 2012, 15:55 GMT)

A great Factual article from a former "Great"!. I fully agree with your belief that a player should be in the XI because of his form, ability & talent - NOT on his past reputation/record- irrespective of his age. This is the exact reason why great players like Tendulkar & Gavaskar played for India in their teens!. I strongly believe that the talent & performance at U-19 must be a big factor in selection & grooming of players for the National teams. There are at least 3 players in the India U-19 who need to be considered for the National Team right now. U. Chand as an openers as there are no opener of his calibre "in waiting", B.Aparajith as an All Rounder & Harmeet as the left arm spinner. Chand & Aparjith are sound in their batting technique & in their stroke play - a rare art in an era of IPL!.I had exactly the same feeling of Young Bedi in Harmeet. He is a wily bowler who uses his head & a brilliant fielder too. Actually Kohli & Pujara are out of U-19 squads who made it to Test XI.

Posted by The_other_side on (August 26, 2012, 15:47 GMT)

I think Ian Chappel was spot on. He wants Unmukt and Harmeet to stop playing kitty cat and be a tiger on prowl or at least try to be. Chances come... Virat Kohli was the product of WC win in 2007. In fact Unmukt looked much better than Virat did at that time in 2007.... So Unmukt and Harmeet should make some big leaps. If you notice Harmeet had 5 wkts Vs Chennai in his last first class matchl

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 15:44 GMT)

Seven batsman scored more runs than chand; only one of them also played plate matches. Only four bowlers took less wickets than harmeet only one of them also played cup matches. Either these two handpicked youngster are did not do justice to their ability or Mr. chappel is wrong like many occasions in the past.

Posted by xylo on (August 26, 2012, 15:37 GMT)

Mr. Chappell does not understand that the "fans" expect Sachin Tendulkar to play on until 2020, and so players like Chand who might have an iota of talent should be waiting, playing in the IPL, and disappearing from the horizon.

Posted by Elmu on (August 26, 2012, 15:26 GMT)

For people making comment like Ian is jealous and laughable comments, where do you read that. He is praising the Indian players and the article was written before the U19 won the cup. He is making sense and if you don't understand that, don't comment. Read and ask someone to translate for you as you have no idea what he means. He is right on with his assessment. He wants these youngsters to give them a chance to forge ahead in the career. His suggestion are worthy of serious attention by the selectors. We the Indian selectors always pull for their regional players and their presence in the national squad, that's where it needs to improve. Good article Ian. Some readers can't take criticism and or good suggestion coming from outside of India or from outsider.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 15:21 GMT)

ian chappel m holding r two grt experts on crk they really talk only abt crk.when ianchappel says harmeet sing is good enough to play for india then he must have seensome real talent in that boy he says he reminds him of grt bs bedi that is some compliment from a man who has a grt eye for talent. let us hope that he not bought by some franchise to play IPL. he shld first play TEST CRK WHICH IS THE REAL TEST OF ANY CRK.IF HE HAS REAL TALENT HE WILL SURVIVE & MAKE MONEY LATER .FIRST PRIORITY SHLD BE TO PLAY FOR COUNTRY IN TEST MACTHES MONEY WILL FOLLOW.

Posted by Thushaa on (August 26, 2012, 14:55 GMT)

Really nice article Mr.Chappell. Its so refreshing and so genuine. Good to see a real Australian appreciating the dominance of the Indians. This is just the start of the things as i see it. believe me, i have studied and followed Indian Circuit and u-19 developments from many states. and there are lot of big things in store for the Australian 's to see. The domestic circuit is live and kicking and it may go unnoticed, but it is live and kicking.Time to get ready for real indian talent to be unveiled.

Posted by Thushaa on (August 26, 2012, 14:51 GMT)

@LillianThomson , thanks for your thoughts about the caption and how he should conduct himself in his studies.. But i think he know very well how to serve his country, and he will serve his country proud. So i dont think any plans from others are really entertained from Team india... Good luck team india, and may the gods be with you. cause indian domination had already begun, and the time for the OZ's to step down and be amazed.. in every aspect.

Posted by PACERONE on (August 26, 2012, 14:44 GMT)

I do not detect any jealousy in what was said.I think that he is right on.What was Kraigg Brathwaite doing playing in a 50 over match for under 19s?He uses up more dot balls which only puts pressure on the other batsmen.As for India this wicket was flat but against W,I where there was bounce India did not perform well against the fast bowlers.The A team also did not perform as was expected in the W.I against the quick bowlers.Lets make the wickets outside of India fast and bouncy.Other nations will always have one or two batsmen that can play spin.Lara, Clark, Pointin and Kallis could.

Posted by couchpundit on (August 26, 2012, 14:39 GMT)

If you had watched harmeet in semi's and finals, you will have to agree with ian. i thinks its time for harmeet,sandeep sharma(RHF), unmukt chand to play for INDIA A. These guys need to be played in county or SAF domestic games if possible.

and i really find it funny people commening here talking about raina as young talent.... How long is he going to get to prove himself? does he get such an extended run just because he is from hindi heartland? Guys like mukund and rahane or not given chances because of their representing states.

Posted by avmd on (August 26, 2012, 14:24 GMT)

Don't I agree with Chappell. No doubt, Chand and Harmeet are very talented boys and likely to play international cricket but, only when their time came. There is a huge difference betweem under 19 and international standard. For these and few other talented boys like Baba and Sharma, the next step should be First Class cricket and they should be challenged at FC level and if they had proved their talent at FC level, only then should be considered for A team and beyond. Harmeet was not very successful in the big game, the final and Chand was dropped at least 4 times, still was his match winning inning.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 14:22 GMT)

virat+unmukt 2gethr strikin 4 india soon no doubt...thnx 4 blog it has evrythn r8 chappel RoX

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

Unlike greg chappell who doesn't like india, ian chappell is a very good cricketer, analyst, commentator. he loves the game very much and he always give suggestions and instructions to world cricket which are absolutely impeccable and intelligent statements and any cricket board who follows ian chappell definitely going to rule the cricketing world.

Posted by Naresh28 on (August 26, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

I feel exceptional talent can leap frog into the senior team. Just like how Sachin started. Chand could be what India is looking for, however the correct path is thru INDIA A and then thru to the Senior team. That is one thing about India, talent is there in abundance in batting but not bowlng. We have been mediocre due to a poor bowling unit. Had our bowling been good we could have salvaged some pride in the Eng and Oz test series.

Posted by Mr_Anonymous on (August 26, 2012, 13:42 GMT)

Thank you for your comments Ian. I really admire and respect your passion for the game and input.

I think its a bold statement from Ian to consider Harmeet as the 2nd best spinner right now. I think we should not judge Ian or Harmeet just yet. Its a bit too early. However, what I got out from Ian's comment is that he is a very exciting talent and would like to see India blood Harmeet soon (especially since other experts like Harsha Bhogle also have concerns about our spin reserves as well) in an international setup and if he utilizes his talent well that might provide a boost to our spin reserves. A lot of this also has to do with how the player will handle their talent (see the example of how poorly Rohit Sharma has handled his talent and opportunities so far). Considering that the spinners took 18 wickets in the 1st test (v/s NZ), would it make sense to have 3 spinners in the next?

Would be nice if Unmukt Chand could make it to the India "A" side going to NZ next month.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 13:23 GMT)

@ Subramanyeswara Sarma V - sir I think Ian's praising the Indian lads.... Jealousy you say?

Posted by Apocalypsoz on (August 26, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

Both Chappell brothers' comments are very astute and should be listened to carefully.Although, Greg is better of coaching the opposite team.

Remember, Ian's comment about India not staying at the top because of weak bowling attack and one injury to Zaheer and we handed the mace to England.Look, who got it back- S.A with world No.1 and No,2 bowlers in their side.

Posted by AK_25 on (August 26, 2012, 12:55 GMT)

@RandyOZ ..hey mate u r outdated....

Posted by CandidIndian on (August 26, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

Ian is absolutely correct,its time for youngsters to come in place of overrated record makers like Sehwag who struggled in SA , he was sitting duck in England, he was dismissed cheaply by Sammy in home test series many times, and he failed in Australia, now he struggled against kiwi pace bowlers on a slow pitch. Chand made a century in big final on bouncy tracks, Rahane has shown lot of promise and has an average of 68 in first class matches, Robin Bisht is another youngsters who has potential along with Manoj tiwari.Oh and how can we forget Sachin,didnt he has enough records to brag at age of 39?if he is so keen to make an impact on young Indian batsman he should retire and be the batting coach of India.What message are Indian selectors giving to youngsters that if you are big match player like VVS and rahul you will be made scapegoat,but if you are record maker you will be rewarded.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

There's is not any mention of Baba Abarajit. Looks to be a stylish batsman with his drives and not afraid to play the pull shot against short stuffs. He could also be the next big thing in Indian cricket. Chand, Harmeet, Abarajit need to be drafted in quickly at least in 50-over matches. It is high time Tendulkar retires from One Day Intl.

Posted by Hayat22 on (August 26, 2012, 12:33 GMT)

@Emancipator007, referring to your comment about Azhar running away from WI tour, I don't think this ever happened! As I recall he scored the only 50 in Windies while on that tour - 62 to be precise. Though he wasn't exactly at home in pace conditions, yet I doubt he ran away literally, if that is what you meant!

Posted by warneneverchuck on (August 26, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

@mohamed khan. I can understand y u want Sachin to retire but he wil stil play for India and score runs. Afterall he is one of greatest

Posted by Riderstorm on (August 26, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

I sincerely want Mr.Bishan Bedi take Harmeet under his wing and make sure that he doesn't stray until he makes his place in the test team.

Posted by landl47 on (August 26, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

The problem with what Ian Chappell suggests is that he is trying to put everyone in the same category- just what he is accusing the selectors of, only in reverse. Some players will thrive if moved up early, some will not. International cricket is tough and temperament is as much a part of it as ability. There are numerous examples of young players who have succeeded when brought in to top level cricket early and equally numerous examples of young players who have not made the grade. Really good selectors will look at where a player is in all phases of his development and make decisions accordingly. Harmeet Singh, for example, might be able to take the shellacking he will get in international cricket (other countries will undoubtedly go after him and try to hit him out of the game), or he might not. Good selectors will watch how he deals with adversity; if he can shrug it off and keep playing his normal game he has a chance. Otherwise, give him a bit longer to mature.

Posted by ns_krishnan on (August 26, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

I admire Ian Chappell's courage to make such big statements about young players. Other former players would be wishy-washy and say "Let him play a season or two of domestic cricket and we will see". Not Ian. He calls things as he sees it.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 11:50 GMT)

I can only smell jealousy in your comments Mr. Chappell. Aussies LOST in their home ground FIRST time in finals. INDIA IS THE BEST.

Posted by rachits on (August 26, 2012, 11:00 GMT)

@ Mohammad Khan : so, basically tendulkar n zaheer retired already...coz i see a lot of new kids in the team...kohli, raina, pujara, umesh, ashwin...and as per u, they cudnt hv gotten a chance without sachn zak retiring!! wat a laughable comment!! raina, kohli n ashwin hv been playing tests for some time now...even before laxman n dravid retired

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 10:52 GMT)

@wc1992...you mean like the 16 yr old Shahid Afridi??? LOL

Posted by RandyOZ on (August 26, 2012, 10:39 GMT)

Spot on Ian, another well written article. Harmeet should be in the side but they persist with hacks like Harbhajan.

Posted by sanghvir on (August 26, 2012, 10:38 GMT)

" That's why the big money needs to be spent on finding the right selectors " The only brilliant statement in the article. Hope the Selectors ( off all the cricket playing countries) are paying attention.

Posted by punter-gilly-haydos-mcgrath-warne on (August 26, 2012, 10:03 GMT)

I think Australia can do with a Bosisto the way he is so stubborn about his wicket. Australia (and especially Shane Watson) at one stage losses his nerve and then throws away his wicket. Bosisto is starting to remind me of Steve Waugh the grittiness that he bats with, I think that can be a great anchor for the Aussie TEST lineup!!

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 9:47 GMT)

The juniors will only get this oppertunity when the likes of Sachin Tendulkar , Zaheer Khan retire, that does not seem to happening until the end of 2013......

Posted by LillianThomson on (August 26, 2012, 9:16 GMT)

Unmukt Chand would probably best serve India by using his undoubted intelligence to go to university in England for three years - preferably to follow in the footsteps of the Nawab of Pataudi, or Majid and Imran Khan at Oxford or Cambridge. He would get several months every summer to play cricket, but would be trained as a leader of men and as a thinker, and would be a viable next Indian cricket captain upon graduation. He will have years to enrich himself in the IPL and has nothing to learn from playing in India. He is a highly impressive young man as well as a terrific young batsman.

Posted by Kingsxifan on (August 26, 2012, 9:08 GMT)

For people who have actually followed the tournament, they should know why Chappell is ga ga over Harmeet Singh. he's 10 times the bowler any indian spinner is at this point. perhaps in worls cricket too. Swann and Vettori accounting for the "perhaps". This guy is ready. we hav already lost Yuvrajs, Kaifs, rainas to the awesome 4some of indian cricket, who have all of a sudden left, when they should have been let go one by one. we shouldnot let talent die. management is too poor. its good Chand is in India A team. India A team should be on Tours atleast 300 days a a year. build them up for our nemesis, abroad tours. BCCI Should put the money in future, not fill the pants of past. and get Harmeet singh either into A side or even Senior Side. he's ready, chappell sir is right. also sandeep as a fast bowler, aprajith as an all rounder, and samit patel as keeper should be well looked after. BCCI should sponsor yearlong overseas bowling academies and india A tours. BUILD THEM UP !!!

Posted by wc1992 on (August 26, 2012, 8:50 GMT)

u19 is good show for big nation to show there second class players but how many are UNDER 19 hahahha .......1 or 2 ...dont believe me look at the wining photo and go see any family indian family living near you ..you will see the difference

Posted by VivtheGreatest on (August 26, 2012, 8:50 GMT)

@Gilly4ever, If three players from this lot could make it into the Oz senior team it just shows how bare your cupboard is

Posted by din7 on (August 26, 2012, 8:35 GMT)

Ian is bit right but comparing them with great players....hahahah.....its funny. U19 WC doesn't matter, we indians win or not..really doesn't matter, whovewer wins doesn't matter....4yrs from now both chand and singh will be nowere around... as akash chopra said ther's big gulf between u19 and 1st class cricket..imagine the gulf between u19 and int. cricket. And good performance in some 3rd class matches impress ian chappel...hahahah....though he is right...watch cummins, starc ..never played u19wc

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (August 26, 2012, 8:35 GMT)

i cant stop laughing at Ian chappel, is he trying to say that this lad is better than Ajmal, Vettori, Narine etc....as in cricket people retire same way there should be a retirement age for commenting too, and I think its time for Ian to retire...he has written some stupid articles in the past too......

Posted by Kml789 on (August 26, 2012, 8:25 GMT)

A tiny bit of research before writing this article would have made a huge difference. Turns out that Chand has already been selected as a batsman for the India A side, giving him a fast track route to selection, and that both players already play for their respective state sides. Harmeet Singh is already very well thought off in the Mumbai Ranji squad as it turns out.

Fast tracking at the expense of others is not the answer though - India is currently experiencing a left arm spin revival - Apart from Pragyan Ojha you have Abdulla, Bhatt, as well as Chavan, Harmeet Singh and others have all shown that left arm spin in the classical mould is not a dying form in India. It would be unfair to fast track Harmeet at the expense of also very young players such as those named above.

Posted by fsdb on (August 26, 2012, 8:22 GMT)

Once again Ian Chappell pinpoints the folly of the Indian selectors and the BCCI - just as he did when they dropped Sehwag from the last tour of Australia. Ian your love of cricket and concern for the wider interests of the game make you offer disinterested and impartial advice to cricketing nations but I fear we Indians are too stuck in in boasting and bragging about how we are number 1 in this and that (despite having lost our last 8 test matches) to pay much attention to your good sense.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 8:19 GMT)

Well said Mr Chappell, Unmukt Chand is already announced his arrival on big stage.He is definately big match player.Indian selectors should have him in the Team India at the eariest so he could gain much needed experience to handle pressure of international cricket.And so is with Harmeet Singh,I think He is the best offie after a very very long time.He is not afraid of giving flight and quicker through air,and brilliant fielder .So Selectors will have to invest in future pl

Posted by warneneverchuck on (August 26, 2012, 8:16 GMT)

@Sawifan. He doesnt need to walk into Pak team he wil get for name and fame while playing for india

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 8:08 GMT)

Why is he saying that Harmeet is the next Bishan Bedi? These labels are very dangerous. They said the same thing about Maninder Singh, fasttracked him into the senior side at age 17 and he suffered badly. Harmeet and Unmukt should play ODIs but not tests. Unmukt in fact looks to be Indias answer to Carl Hooper, very elegant and stylish. Hits the ball like a golfer. Currently, we have good spinners - Ashwin, Pragyan Ojha, Amit Mishra and Iqbal Abdulla. Let us give them chances to the full. I am extremely happy to see Aparajith who reminds me of Rahul Dravid, very technically competent bat who bowls decent off spin. He should also be playing ODIs.

Posted by SangakaraFan on (August 26, 2012, 8:08 GMT)

TOTALLY IMPRESSED by the batting of Chand Unmukt. This kid is CLASS ACT. The way he hit 6 sixes and played a steady innings to take India to the cup is remarkable. I don't know abt Harmeet sing but I see Unmukt playing in the Indian side by next year.Hopfully IPL riches don't spoil him.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 8:06 GMT)

I had always seen Ian as a great observer of cricket ... most of his predictions have come true ... hope this one about Harmeet and Unmukt Chand will also come true ...

Posted by Rajavel-cricket on (August 26, 2012, 8:03 GMT)

What about baba aprajith.. he is a good prospect as well,, perfect all rounder

Posted by Caji on (August 26, 2012, 8:01 GMT)

Ian is the best commentator on TV as well. Very informative and well analysed. Best part is he never minces his words speaking right from his heart and mind. Keep it up Ian

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 8:00 GMT)

The issue I've got with Indian selectors just lately is they seem to be lacking the foresight, I mean they have been myopic for long. To continue with Sehwag as an opener for instance is one example. I agree with Ian Chappell keeping good players at U19 will only stagnate them, though I'm not sure if Harmeet is the best spinner in India. Having said that number of the U19 kids need exposure and like Rod Marsh said pick players on ability and not age. Sandeep Sharma is another player who needs to be groomed. The issue with Indian Cricket has never been with talent but the way talent has been managed.

Posted by vertical on (August 26, 2012, 7:57 GMT)

Alright this article seems ridiculous,and I am saying that as an Indian.There were some brilliant players from other teams as well but no mention of them.I would think instead of drafting Chand and playing him in odi's let him play at least 3 seasons of domestic cricket and include him in all India A tours.I would like to see more test quality batsmen than the likes of Raina or Yuvraj who keep poking at wide deliveries.As for Harmeet I am always skeptical of left arm spinners,they most often than not fade away.

Posted by screamingeagle on (August 26, 2012, 7:48 GMT)

I do not think Ian was comparing Singh with the test team spinners, really.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 7:43 GMT)

Ian Chappell is spot on to that list I would add Patel, Aparajith and Sharma....rest including Zol who was hyped up turned out to be very inadequate for the rigors of the international cricket

Posted by cricpolitics on (August 26, 2012, 7:42 GMT)

I should take Swann out of my list in my previous comment. Swann has not performed anywhere near to the bowlers like Ajmal, Rehman, Sakib, and Herath. Not sure how can Ian rate England so high on spin bowling. I doubt Chapel's critical thinking. An extremely weak and flawed observation from an experienced cricketer.

Posted by Iyer on (August 26, 2012, 7:42 GMT)

I think Chappell was spot on. chand, Harmeet and Baba are the pick of the lot. All these three should play at the national level with the seniors, instead of under 19. Lebron James of NBA never played college basketball as he was ready to play at the elite level at a young age.

Posted by jango_moh on (August 26, 2012, 7:40 GMT)

Not sure if the above mentioned guys are ready rite now for the senior team, esp harmeet singh, both might need to play a few A games etc... i would add sandeep sharma to the list... he gets late swing in every match that nobody else gets, its amazing to watch!!!

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 7:39 GMT)

The new Sensation: Unmukt Chand (Next Virat Kohli??)

Posted by Des_65 on (August 26, 2012, 7:34 GMT)

Ian is right. Sachin played for Mumbai at 14 and got a century and then was fast tracked into the Indian team. Waqar played for Pakistan at Sharjah when he was in teens. Fast track quality players. Rohit Sharma warmed the benches in Australia recently when in form and played ODI matches when his form was over. I think same will happen to Rahane. Also fast track Chand, Harmeet, Aparajith & Sandeep (the latter and other U19 seamers at least in swinging conditions).

Posted by cricpolitics on (August 26, 2012, 7:31 GMT)

It's just mind boggling when Ian mentions Harmeet being the best test spin bowler if he is drafted into the test side today. Is he really disregarding the current top spinners like Ajmal, Swann, Abdul Rehman etc.? Chapel is going a little overboard here, probably getting a little emotional.

Posted by sharidas on (August 26, 2012, 7:28 GMT)

I am sure there will be many who want these youngsters blooded early for the bigger game. I do wish your ( Chappell's) voice is heard and acted on.

Posted by Vidyashankar on (August 26, 2012, 7:26 GMT)

Yes I would say Unmukt Chand is ready but not Harmeet Singh. Harmeet needs few more years of nuturing at the first class level. Both are class players however. Good luck to them and hope they make it to the big world of Cricket.

Posted by Vidyashankar on (August 26, 2012, 7:23 GMT)

CONGRATS INDIA on a great win. Well done Unmukt Chand and rest of the boys. Proud of you. Cheers.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 7:21 GMT)

Yes sir these blokes are ready to play the Internationals Unmukt, Harmeet and Aparjit also to some extent the Fast bowler sharma...

Posted by Vasilev on (August 26, 2012, 7:19 GMT)

Well, to all of those Friends who are bashng out at Ian's comments here..India are now the CHAMPIONS of U19 WC and TWO of the players Ian mentioned above have had a BIG role to play in winning the trophy. Unmukt Chand being - 111 not out in the Final, while chasing, under pressure. PERIOD.

Posted by prashnottz on (August 26, 2012, 7:15 GMT)

@Gily4ever, spoke too soon I guess. Unmukht just smashed 7 sixes in the final, got a 100 and got the cup for India.

Posted by Vasilev on (August 26, 2012, 7:06 GMT)

@Idris Hafiz: Bro, I hope you are watching the Finals today, happening right now! If not, i advice you to watch highlights. You will know the answers to all your questions.

Posted by Percy_Fender on (August 26, 2012, 6:52 GMT)

For all the people who seem stung to the quick by Ian Chappell's opinion in regard to Harmeet's bowling being similar to Bedi's and being of a class only second to Grame Swann, I would like to reassure them that it was never intended to say that Saeed Ajmal is a lesser bowler. The thing is that Harmeet is a left hander like Bishen was and hence the lure of the equation. Ajmal is an off spinner and a great one at that. But his action is not one that inspires cricket prose.It is more akin to a shot putter in athletics. A Qadir or a Muralidharan will always be unique because of the way they used to bowl. The game was enriched not just by their actions but also the exhibition of their skills. Spin bowling as come down in viewing relevance because of the 20/20 format. For those that have seen good spin bowling

Posted by Clyde on (August 26, 2012, 6:11 GMT)

I come from an era when we spectators could look forward to a series of batsmen who had their own ways of doing things and demonstrated them in full. Take Booth, Burge, Walters or Boon, for example. Exhilarating, all in very different ways. Ian Chappell, as he frequently does, helps the game a great deal with an article like this.

Posted by Percy_Fender on (August 26, 2012, 6:05 GMT)

A very theought provoking piece for the Indian selectors. From the Indian team,apart from the two that Ian mentions,I have much hope in both Aparajit and Zol.The said four can come into the seniors team in a couple of years. Not immediately as Chappell suggests.Unlike in Australia, where ignoring good talents may be de-motivating,in India Harmeet,Unmukht,Aparajit and Zol haveall been playing for their state teams.That apart all these youngsters know that if they are good in cricket they can reaally make big money.Many parents are encouraging their children to play the game even if they have to put their studies on a lesser priority. I know that Ian has a great fascination with high quality spin bowling as he has faced from Prasanna and Bedi having played them at their very best. Watching Bedi on the field was like a slow motion replay.Patkas of various hues shirt opened till the navel and one knew that Bishan was busy plotting. Harmeet has the same run up.I hope he ha the guile as well

Posted by sifter132 on (August 26, 2012, 5:59 GMT)

Just on the Tendulkar comment...It's a lovely idea to 'free form' a batsman, but is it practical? For every star that it might find, it would also miss a workmanlike player (or 2 or 3) on the other end of the scale who NEEDS coaching to be an effective player. If you invest less in coaching but more in scouting this is the cost/benefit. In an age where every nation is investing in academies, development programmes etc., it would be a bold move indeed to cut back on coaching at a time when nations are desperate to find that extra edge. Certainly a good thing to increase scouting though :)

Posted by getsetgopk on (August 26, 2012, 5:52 GMT)

Wait a second, what did I read there? Am I dreaming or something? LOL "He bowls like Bishen Bedi, with that same natural flight and guile that would right now place him as the best spin bowler in any Test side bar England." I nearly fell off me chair there, this kid is better than Saeed Ajmal, Daniel Vitory, Imran Tahir? This coming from someone like Ian Chappel. I long beleived that this author speaks very little sense and he's proving me right again. Is he talking of the same England that Ajmal had for lunch?

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 5:26 GMT)

May be they are ready but whom will they replace??? Chand has played very few IPL matches and I don't remember if Harmeet has played any IPL Game. Also Baba Aparajith has been very impressive in this U19 WC.

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 5:17 GMT)

Its a relief to see someone like Harmeet in today's India where sadly our core strength of spin has gone into a decline in recent years with the retirement of Jumbo and the fall of Plaha.Just wish he is groomed well and doesn't compromise flight for economy.

Posted by sawifan on (August 26, 2012, 5:07 GMT)

What does Ian Chappel have against the Pakistani spinners? Surely Ajmal is the best spinner in the world, therefore Singh wouldn't 'walk into' team PAK?!

Posted by maveiitr on (August 26, 2012, 5:04 GMT)

Very important points from Ian. Why not bring in Harmeet Singh into the international set up of the senior team? We keep cribbing about not finding a suitable spinner when we have one of the best young talent who has ability to succeed in all conditions. Same goes for Unmukt. Why are we not seeing days when a bright kid is inducted into the senior team at the age of 17 or 18? Instead of playing in u19 these guys and the other players should be regularly sent to tour Australia , England and SA to play in club matches and someone should be there to monitor their performance and grooming. It doesn't sound that complicated for such a huge set up of cricket that India has but is someone who is really sincere being appointed for this Someone like Rahul Dravid should be given this responsibility for Batsmen and someone like Zaheer for bowlers in near future. That's the way ahead for Indian Cricket. We can't be satisfied with good ODI performances or home season of Tests anymore..we can rise!

Posted by   on (August 26, 2012, 5:02 GMT)

Well Ian, you maybe right but why would you want to have a look at the talent of young Indian players and not of any other test playing. countries? Why do foreigners need to emphasize at the development of young Indians? Are the guys sitting at the BCCI absolutely dumb, that they would require advise from somebody not Indian? And if they were chosen because of your influence and did not perform as you predicted, the young Indians would be lost in wilderness like Mohammed Kaif- someone as brilliant as the guys you mentioned. Not that we are not open to help/coaching from people from outside our country, but a guy by the name of Greg Chappell ruined Indin cricket for as long as he was there.

Posted by Emancipator007 on (August 26, 2012, 4:58 GMT)

Always trust Ian to be neutral in his assessment of players & in his desire to see international cricket extremely competitive.Just like young Pakistani express pace bowlers are found on the streets of Karachi/Lahore, so too technically sound young Indian bats can be found in the maidans of South Mumbai.Their later development or ascension to top-drawer cricket boils down to selectorial issues, career choices and temperament.OZ has great emerging express pace options in Pattinson,Cummins but no single,great talent young bat on the horizon.Puts into perspective the raging talent & world-class temperament of one 16-year old Tendulkar playing 10 Tests abroad since his debut.In fact, he was good enuf to be selected as 15 year-old to face Marshall,Bishop,Ambrose,Walsh on'89 WI tour! & expressed anguish at not being chosen(interview video on YT) & would have performed better than Azhar who ran away from WI pacers on same tour.Fast-track Harmeet to play against Eng/OZ in home Test series.

Posted by Kak-mal_Khan on (August 26, 2012, 4:35 GMT)

"would right now place him as the best spin bowler in any Test side bar England" are you having a laugh Mr Chappell - if referring to England spin coach Mushtaq Ahmed fair enough, but if comparing to Swann who has been out bowled recently overseas (Ajmal, Rehman & Herath) and now by a very mediocre Imran Tahir for SA. Australia may not be as good as England with spinners or any other nation for that matter and therefore this kid could get in the "Australian Test team" Also the same had been said about Indian spinner Piyush Chawla a few years back!

Posted by ElementaryJeeves on (August 26, 2012, 4:31 GMT)

"the best spin bowler in any Test side bar England" - shocking hyperbole from an otherwise measured observer. He obviously has talent and has shown potential but i very much doubt he will replace Vettori or Ajmal or Tahir even Ashiwn & Ojha

Posted by prashnottz on (August 26, 2012, 4:30 GMT)

Lol what? Harmeet the best spinner barring Swann? How about Ajmal, Shakib, Ashwin etc? Is Chappelli getting old?

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (August 26, 2012, 4:23 GMT)

Harmeet Singh I don't think will ever play for India at the senior level. The two Indians who are likely to go higher are Passi and Chand. I disagree that either of them are ready right at this instant. Chand is fairly close but needs a bit more consistency, and unfortunately this tournament has been a poor one for him. Passi needs to have some first class games under his belt. Both may be ready for senior internationals within the next year or two. I doubt that Harmeet Singh ever will. There are players in the tournament who are right now ready for international level, but none of them are Indian. A couple of South Africans, one from New Zealand and as much as 3 from Australia could cut it in the senior team right now.

Posted by Shoaib-Naveed on (August 26, 2012, 4:17 GMT)

"with that same natural flight and guile that would right now place him as the best spin bowler in any Test side bar England"....i can't believe such ignorant remarks are so easily published on Cricinfo. I mean come on, you so easily forget Saeed Ajmal, Rehman, Bishoo, Herath, Shakib-ul-Hassan just to name a few...even India themselves have a pretty good bowler in Ojha.

You contradict yourself by first saying the level of batting is no where near regular international standards, and then make such statements about how he can walk into any international side. Just because you are covering a tournament shouldn't compel you to make such flawed sweeping statements.

Posted by grizzle on (August 26, 2012, 4:15 GMT)

Much as I hate the way BCCI manages the senior Indian team, they need credit for putting the structures in place that have led to the development of this young talent. Good on you BCCI!

Posted by Nmiduna on (August 26, 2012, 4:13 GMT)

wow..u mean swanny is the best spinner right now and harmeet is the next? without even playing test cricket??..i respect u mr chappel, but im honsetly perplexed that wen ur best spinner struggled to make much impact in the UAE series against pak, ajmal and rehmann ripped thru what was touted as one of the best batting orders in tests in recent times. its funny how aussies and englishmen keep saying swanny is the best as if the likes of ajmal doesnt even exist and ramiz raja, although with more respect and credit to other bowlers, says ajmal is perhaps the best..chappel steps further and says an u-19 who hasnt even proved himself is better than ajmal without even mentioning the latter..and what about rangana herath? who slowly but surely becoming SL's main test bowler and is now ranked just below ajmal at 4th.(swann is not even at 10 and had a poor series against SA where he hardly looked threatening) is this some kind of a joke or did i get anything wrong? anybody plz?

Posted by venkatesh018 on (August 26, 2012, 4:04 GMT)

Harmeet looks like the best left arm spinning prodigy since Maninder Singh. Please spare him from the IPL, blood him for the longer version and let him go with India A on a couple of tours, and if he keeps up his good work, then let us give him a Test cap in 2013.

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Ian Chappell Widely regarded as the best Australian captain of the last 50 years, Ian Chappell moulded a team in his image: tough, positive, and fearless. Even though Chappell sometimes risked defeat playing for a win, Australia did not lose a Test series under him between 1971 and 1975. He was an aggressive batsman himself, always ready to hook a bouncer and unafraid to use his feet against the spinners. In 1977 he played a lead role in the defection of a number of Australian players to Kerry Packer's World Series Cricket, which did not endear him to the administrators, who he regarded with contempt in any case. After retirement, he made an easy switch to television, where he has come to be known as a trenchant and fiercely independent voice.

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