New Zealand news April 19, 2012

Wagner's eligibility for New Zealand confirmed

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Neil Wagner, the South Africa-born fast bowler, is now eligible to play for New Zealand, the ICC has confirmed. Wagner had moved to New Zealand in 2008 and his inclusion in the New Zealand team has been highly anticipated, following two prolific seasons on the domestic circuit.

Last month, there was some doubt over how soon Wagner would be eligible to play for New Zealand. The ICC's regulations state that a player must reside in the relevant country for a minimum of 183 days for four consecutive years to qualify. Wagner had had two short trips out of New Zealand during his time there but received positive rulings on his applications for these two absences to be viewed as exceptional circumstances, prompting him to be declared eligible.

The New Zealand board had submitted the applications on Wagner's behalf to the ICC's exceptional circumstances committee, who then made a recommendation to cricket committee chairman Clive Lloyd.

During his run in domestic cricket, where he has represented Notherns and more recently Otago, Wagner was named the most valuable player of the Plunket Shield for 2010-11, after taking 51 wickets in nine games in the competition. That included a record five wickets in one over, against Wellington. In the 2011-12 season he had topped the wicket-takers' list again, with 46 wickets in 10 games.

New Zealand's next international assignment is a tour of the Caribbean that begins in Florida at the end of June.

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  • ForgeNZ on April 22, 2012, 9:54 GMT

    Believe you me there are loads of extremely talented crickerters out there that for some reason or another will never get to represent their home country. NZ needs two opening batsman that qualify for this reason.

  • Min2000 on April 22, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    As a Black Caps fan I'm not convinced we need Wagner just yet - we lack tearaway quicks but Martin, Bracewell, Gillespie & Southee all bowl 140+ and all swing the ball. AND, there's already plenty of left arm options in McKay, Boult and Jimmy Franklin. But if there are any Sth African openers going, we'll take 2 please! :P

  • dalboy12 on April 20, 2012, 23:19 GMT

    I think its very different if a player has moved countries for personal and lifestyle reasons, I don't think we want too many just jumping ship waiting 3 years and playing for different nations if that number starts getting to over half a team then its going to look at bit stupid. A lot of South African are moving due to lifestyle moves and why shouldn't they be able to continue to play cricket at the highest level for their adopted country. Wagner will be great, but not good enough to ball teams out for under 200, so that means we still some batsman

  • zenboomerang on April 20, 2012, 16:09 GMT

    @Morgsy... Re: allrounder... Someone I have always thought has often been missing from NZ either as a batsman / spinner or seamer... Just a great bonus to a team when things aren't going your way - imagine SA without Kallis or Oz without Watson...

  • zenboomerang on April 20, 2012, 16:08 GMT

    @IamDan... lol... So true, so true... Where would any country be without adventurous souls prepared to improve their life my moving to a better environment for themselves?... Survival of the fittest or just basic improving your own (&families) lot in life... Couldn't agree more...

  • Tartanspringbok on April 20, 2012, 13:51 GMT

    And very soon we will have Horses running in Greyhound races. Will that improve Greyhound racing?

  • mahjut on April 20, 2012, 12:45 GMT

    @DR.THIRSTY ... i think 4 years is too short - but more than happy for your kids to play for NZ (as that'll be where they learn their cricket) or Eng [they wouldn't choose HK. @IAMDAN ... colour has nothing to do with it and their choice is their choice but as a zimbo i can tell you that no matter how much we could do with any number of foreign players in our cricket team ... i'd genuinely be less interested in their international progress than any lowly zim player - if they play domestically it makes a differnece, i'd be more interested - but otherwise i can't see how the ease of migration would strengthen cricket except for countries that provide a secure living (forget the development of Zim cricket then). btw TROYD (Andrew), a few zimbo have been approached by Ireland already so prepare yourself for losing Jarvis to someone if he continues to impress (in the same way Ballance is gone). The test 'league' becomes meaningless if it is not representative - Eng as #1...who would care??

  • Morgsy on April 20, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    At last a real spear head! Now get Milne in there too...With the likes of Bracewell, Boult, Southee and Bennett also chasing a spot suddenly our bowling doesn't look too bad!

    Anyone got a couple of openers and a decent all rounder we could borrow for 10 yrs or so?

  • Vivian_Richard on April 20, 2012, 8:31 GMT

    Interesting development. Good for us spectators.

  • IamDan on April 20, 2012, 8:20 GMT

    Who cares, where you were born, the colour of your skin, your religious beliefs, and your sexual preferences, Cricket will only benefit more, if we have more competitive, Test nations. Andrew Strauss could have played for 3 countries, born in Saffer, raised and educated in OZ, but settled in England as a teenager because of his parents work. Overlooked, talented players, deserve the chance to play Cricket at the highest level, if they want to move and live in a new Nation, its there choice. Enough Said

  • ForgeNZ on April 22, 2012, 9:54 GMT

    Believe you me there are loads of extremely talented crickerters out there that for some reason or another will never get to represent their home country. NZ needs two opening batsman that qualify for this reason.

  • Min2000 on April 22, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    As a Black Caps fan I'm not convinced we need Wagner just yet - we lack tearaway quicks but Martin, Bracewell, Gillespie & Southee all bowl 140+ and all swing the ball. AND, there's already plenty of left arm options in McKay, Boult and Jimmy Franklin. But if there are any Sth African openers going, we'll take 2 please! :P

  • dalboy12 on April 20, 2012, 23:19 GMT

    I think its very different if a player has moved countries for personal and lifestyle reasons, I don't think we want too many just jumping ship waiting 3 years and playing for different nations if that number starts getting to over half a team then its going to look at bit stupid. A lot of South African are moving due to lifestyle moves and why shouldn't they be able to continue to play cricket at the highest level for their adopted country. Wagner will be great, but not good enough to ball teams out for under 200, so that means we still some batsman

  • zenboomerang on April 20, 2012, 16:09 GMT

    @Morgsy... Re: allrounder... Someone I have always thought has often been missing from NZ either as a batsman / spinner or seamer... Just a great bonus to a team when things aren't going your way - imagine SA without Kallis or Oz without Watson...

  • zenboomerang on April 20, 2012, 16:08 GMT

    @IamDan... lol... So true, so true... Where would any country be without adventurous souls prepared to improve their life my moving to a better environment for themselves?... Survival of the fittest or just basic improving your own (&families) lot in life... Couldn't agree more...

  • Tartanspringbok on April 20, 2012, 13:51 GMT

    And very soon we will have Horses running in Greyhound races. Will that improve Greyhound racing?

  • mahjut on April 20, 2012, 12:45 GMT

    @DR.THIRSTY ... i think 4 years is too short - but more than happy for your kids to play for NZ (as that'll be where they learn their cricket) or Eng [they wouldn't choose HK. @IAMDAN ... colour has nothing to do with it and their choice is their choice but as a zimbo i can tell you that no matter how much we could do with any number of foreign players in our cricket team ... i'd genuinely be less interested in their international progress than any lowly zim player - if they play domestically it makes a differnece, i'd be more interested - but otherwise i can't see how the ease of migration would strengthen cricket except for countries that provide a secure living (forget the development of Zim cricket then). btw TROYD (Andrew), a few zimbo have been approached by Ireland already so prepare yourself for losing Jarvis to someone if he continues to impress (in the same way Ballance is gone). The test 'league' becomes meaningless if it is not representative - Eng as #1...who would care??

  • Morgsy on April 20, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    At last a real spear head! Now get Milne in there too...With the likes of Bracewell, Boult, Southee and Bennett also chasing a spot suddenly our bowling doesn't look too bad!

    Anyone got a couple of openers and a decent all rounder we could borrow for 10 yrs or so?

  • Vivian_Richard on April 20, 2012, 8:31 GMT

    Interesting development. Good for us spectators.

  • IamDan on April 20, 2012, 8:20 GMT

    Who cares, where you were born, the colour of your skin, your religious beliefs, and your sexual preferences, Cricket will only benefit more, if we have more competitive, Test nations. Andrew Strauss could have played for 3 countries, born in Saffer, raised and educated in OZ, but settled in England as a teenager because of his parents work. Overlooked, talented players, deserve the chance to play Cricket at the highest level, if they want to move and live in a new Nation, its there choice. Enough Said

  • maddy20 on April 20, 2012, 3:25 GMT

    @sachin_vvsfan What a brilliant idea! Hats of to ya :D

  • on April 20, 2012, 1:08 GMT

    To the people suggesting SA should have a 2nd team. They probably should. But then, 10 years ago, so should have Australia. Now Australia probably doesn't have the depth, I doubt SA will always have this depth though....

  • Shongololo on April 20, 2012, 0:00 GMT

    Add Jade Dernbach, BJ Watling, Grant Elliott to list opf Saffas to represent other nationals...

  • dr.thirsty on April 19, 2012, 23:28 GMT

    It is probably worth noting that the issue of cricketers of SA extraction playing for other nations will only spread and increase. Leaving aside those who moved overseas as adults for career reasons, there has been a huge wave of families emigrating from SA for some time now. I am an Englishman currenty living in Northland, NZ, and am struck by the vast number of Saffas I meet every day. The same is true in the UK, and I'm told that areas of Western Oz in particular are like 'little Joburgs'. So there is a large and growing SA diaspora in English speaking countries and they love their sport. My son plays B grade (10yr old) cricket, and the best players in his team, and league, are South African kids. Give it 10-15 years and and this current crop of youngsters will be representing Eng, NZ & Oz. Quick poser; my kids were born in England, live in NZ (with dual nationality) and and spent most of their lives in Hong Kong. Who should they play for? The world's a small place; deal with it!

  • Troyd on April 19, 2012, 19:40 GMT

    If he's good enough to play for NZ and not making the SA side fair enough .. just don't go getting any ideas about Kyle Jarvis!!!!!

  • sukantc on April 19, 2012, 19:10 GMT

    I am really happy to see Neil Wagner being eligible to play for New Zealand.

    Although I an Indian as a cricket lover I am happy to see a good bowler making his

    way to International cricket.

    Sukant Chakraborty

  • Supa_SAFFA on April 19, 2012, 18:09 GMT

    Why can't SA send an 'A-Team' to play against non-test teams and raise the level of competition they are exposed to? These should still count as full-on internationals.

  • Praxis on April 19, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    South Africa should be allowed to field two different test teams, they have too many talents available.

  • passionate_cricket_follower on April 19, 2012, 15:37 GMT

    What's wrong in someone choosing his country to play for? I feel should be OK if the country is interested in that individual. I'm sure players like Darren Lehmann, Ian Harvey, Michael Bevan would have played 100 tests had they played for any other country than Australia, or VVS Laxman would at least play in 3 WCs had he played for any other country than India. Wouldn't cricket be benefitted if we see more quality players in the Test level?

  • Supa_SAFFA on April 19, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    NZ, AUS and ENG have long been favourite destinations for professionals from SA to emigrate to, in all trades. It's no wonder then that they are making their mark on the sports field too. Their forefathers survived and tamed the wild African bushveld, so the rest of the world is hardly a challenge. I'm just disappointed that the SA coach of OZ isn't exploring the wealth of expatriate talent at his disposal.

  • Robster1 on April 19, 2012, 14:50 GMT

    Four years is not a long enough qualification period. And Wagner has already fielded as a substitute in tests for SA. Too many Southern Africans now in Kiwi colours.

  • Gizza on April 19, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    @abyrao, what do you been by "Patel" nonsense? Jeetan Patel is a New Zealander. He was born in Wellington. If you're talking about Dipak Patel, yes he was a Brit of Kenyan origin but he had to play domestic cricket in New Zealand for 6 years (2 years longer than the current ICC rules) so that's a long time. Maybe the current rule should be stretched out to 5 or 6 years. I hope everyone realises that cricketers playing for multiple countries has existed since the late 1800's very close to when the very first Tests were played. This is definitely not a recent phenomenon. See this Cricinfo article http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/262019.html

  • mahjut on April 19, 2012, 14:27 GMT

    off the top of my head; Van wyk, Wagner {NZ}, Prior, Keiswetter, Trott, KP, Meaker, [Strauss is English enough for me], Dernbach {Eng} ten Doeschate {Nederlands}, Van de Merve, Botha, Fourie, Sorensen {Ireland} ... 13 SA players on the international scene not playing for SA - and to be fair to them, it is highly unlikely any but Prior would make the SA team (with Trott an outside possibility - he's certainly better than Rudolph though probably not streets ahead of Prince - except on Prince's current form:( ) . ...and of the whole bunch above (I excluded Strauss from my count) Prior is the least South African - so good on 'em for sneaking in to International cricket the only way open to them...

  • Bruisers on April 19, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    @Meety - You forgot Matt Prior and Craig Kieswetter..!

  • StevieS on April 19, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    Great looks like we are going the way of English cricket, personally I hope he never gets picked no matter how good he is and instead a New Zealander takes his spot.

  • mahjut on April 19, 2012, 14:12 GMT

    @IamDan ... I don't mind the whole thing - it simply is what it is, but sadly for SA any young half-decent player obviously have the mentality you (appear to) have, which is "if I'm not picked as a youngster then i've been hard done by and need to go elsewhere". I'm guessing, like KP, at 22 - while still in SA - he was probably not good enough for a place in any SA national team (including the A squad). There is no 'right' to selection as there is no obligation to stay...maybe, like KP, he'll do a decent job in his adopted home...and go a step further by actually winning over the locals (judging from the comments here he's done that)

  • on April 19, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    Now, South Africa-A team should be indicted into ICC as a full time Team and start playing the ICC Tests, ODIs and T20's. Thus giving best players to play for their nation.

  • Jeffrey_indubai on April 19, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    @Meety: Don't forget Kieswetter as well!

  • on April 19, 2012, 13:22 GMT

    Looks like saf have an infinite supply of fast bowlers!!

  • samincolumbia on April 19, 2012, 13:18 GMT

    ICC - Why 4 years? Can you change the absurd rule to make it 4 months!! It's a farce anyway you look at it.

  • samincolumbia on April 19, 2012, 13:16 GMT

    What a joke!! So people are OK with this farce, but they come out in droves to blame BCCI for something silly as the DRS!! BCCI can easily India's bowling problem by importing 3 or 4 saffa bowlers, keep them in the country for 4 years and voila they are part of the national team.

  • on April 19, 2012, 13:05 GMT

    IamDan, all very well, but I can assure you that Brad Hodge and Stuart Law wouldn't want to play for any country apart from Australia.

    For some it's about playing cricket at the highest level, for others it's playing at the highest level and representing your country.

  • vdm1 on April 19, 2012, 12:49 GMT

    Excellent, more Saffa talent on show in the test arena!!!

  • Steggz on April 19, 2012, 12:43 GMT

    Tartanspringbok, the man has paid his dues. He's been in NZ for 4 years. He's earned the right to play for them.

  • abyrao on April 19, 2012, 12:39 GMT

    Is there any difference between a English team and an IPL team, both have a mix of nationalities, hope NZL does not go that way. Although NZ has never won a major tournament they had some greats like Hadlee, Crowe... Feel they should stop this Patels Nethulas Krugers or Wagners business.

  • on April 19, 2012, 12:05 GMT

    Hmm....Come on India n Pakistan..Both teams can be benefited if they trade their batsmen n bowlers :D ! Anyone for Kohli ? :P

  • KingOwl on April 19, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    Yeah, why not have a player-loan system among countries, just like what is being proposed for the IPL. This is a joke. Just found out that South Africa's second biggest export, behind diamonds is ... yeah, you guessed it right: Cricketers!!

  • Meety on April 19, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    @Mitcher - champagne! == == == What would be a good marketing concept for the SACB, is to host a Residents v Expats match. Would be a corker! Ex-pats; 1. Strauss, 2. Compton, 3. Trott, 4. KP, 5. ten Doeschete, 6. Kruger, 7. Van Wyk, 8. Nesser, 9. Mommson, 10. Wagner, 11. Loots

  • on April 19, 2012, 11:34 GMT

    Awesome news, I've been waiting for this update for ages. He'll be slotted straight in to the side, can't wait to see him playing for us at last!

  • zenboomerang on April 19, 2012, 11:24 GMT

    Really happy for Wagner, he's put in the hard yards over many years & fully deserves a Test birth... I think NZ are starting to get a good seamers squad together & will surprise teams in years to come...

  • zenboomerang on April 19, 2012, 11:23 GMT

    @IamDan... Yes I like that idea for lower ranked teams with shorter qualifying periods - might be a bit hard to define a cut-off line though, top 4 or 6?... Might also have to look at a countries historical Test position & domestic cricket base... England has had the advantage of where parents were born for far too long which gives them a work-around the 4 year wait period - aka the many Oz & SA players that have played for them even though they developed their skills in another country...

  • vertical on April 19, 2012, 11:08 GMT

    This could become a trend, SA and Aus produce great talent England,WI and NZ can benefit from these players who cannot make into their national team.Though Mitchell Johnson is mostly useless any chance of him moving to India he is still better than any of India's fast bowlers ;can win us 1 in 10 tests good enough (when was a last time an Indian fast bowler won us a test series maybe Zaheer against Eng in 2007)

  • on April 19, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Should be great for NZ with the red ball at least. I also think it will help promote some competition amongst the bowling ranks. But we can't forget batting still very much remains the problem for NZ.

  • Charindra on April 19, 2012, 9:37 GMT

    Good news. England has clearly benefited from SA talent. So maybe it's NZ's turn. And they need all the help they can get to be world beaters.

  • Marktc on April 19, 2012, 9:30 GMT

    Let's hope that NZ does not go the same way England has gone and field almost 50% Ex South Africans.

  • IamDan on April 19, 2012, 9:19 GMT

    Good on the Kiwis, Quality fast bowlers are rare, even rarer are quality Left arm Fast bowlers. Saffers` overlooked this young man, so fair enough that he went and plied his trade in the land of the `KIWI`, and has impressed all, in his new Country. Cricket rules should be more flexible, weaker Nations, should be allowed to go and get at least 2 players from other nations, that are not getting a gig in the National Team, 12 months should be the maximum amount of time, they have to wait. As an Aussie, Brad Hodge and Stuart Law, were both good enough to play 70 Tests, but when they were at their peak, we had a plethora of gun batsmen. A bit more common sense is needed, and Cricket would benefit greatly.

  • gimme-a-greentop on April 19, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    I like the New Zealand immigration advert right next to this article..at least Pakistan had the decency to donate SA a spinner...

  • Tartanspringbok on April 19, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    Maybe the whole SA squad qualify for NZ now after touring there for 2 months. International cricket and sport in genral is becoming like club cricket. Soon Countries will be touting for players. Test cricket to take on the shape of the IPL with Cricket boards bidding in the closed season for the best players.

    NEWS HEADLINE ** Dale Steyn transfers from South Africa to England for £2.5million**

  • sachin_vvsfan on April 19, 2012, 8:47 GMT

    How about tweaking that rule say 2 consecutive months per year in 4 years? That way we will get all SA bowlers who play in IPL :)

  • switchmitch on April 19, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    Any chance of Dale Steyn playing for India? We don't mind even if he is not a citizen of India, ask him to just play for us...lol

  • on April 19, 2012, 8:22 GMT

    Excellent news. Wagner will do wonders for NZ when he is selected for them, hopefully in their next tour :D

  • fan2011 on April 19, 2012, 8:21 GMT

    Sri lanka should follow these steps and invite some fast bowling talents from SA, Pakistan to come and play for us..

  • satish619chandar on April 19, 2012, 8:15 GMT

    SA is the best cricketing nation it seems.. They produce classy cricketers for themselves and donate them to other nations too.. Wish India too gets a couple of pace bowlers from them and with the sort of batting India has, they can dominate with better bowlers in their lineup..

  • on April 19, 2012, 8:06 GMT

    Finally... GREAT news :) This guy is going to be good!

  • Mitcher on April 19, 2012, 8:00 GMT

    This can't be right. Surely he is only eligible for England.

  • on April 19, 2012, 7:55 GMT

    His arrival can't come soon enough. I've watched him eagerly in our domestic comp - can't wait to see him bowl for the black caps. Not a bad tailend bat either - more discipline than Bracewell. Yet another mountain for Southee to climb in order to get back.

  • on April 19, 2012, 7:40 GMT

    If he only needs 183 consecutive days per year for 4 years, why would two short trips be an issue? He could be gone 182 days straight per year and still be good, right?

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  • on April 19, 2012, 7:40 GMT

    If he only needs 183 consecutive days per year for 4 years, why would two short trips be an issue? He could be gone 182 days straight per year and still be good, right?

  • on April 19, 2012, 7:55 GMT

    His arrival can't come soon enough. I've watched him eagerly in our domestic comp - can't wait to see him bowl for the black caps. Not a bad tailend bat either - more discipline than Bracewell. Yet another mountain for Southee to climb in order to get back.

  • Mitcher on April 19, 2012, 8:00 GMT

    This can't be right. Surely he is only eligible for England.

  • on April 19, 2012, 8:06 GMT

    Finally... GREAT news :) This guy is going to be good!

  • satish619chandar on April 19, 2012, 8:15 GMT

    SA is the best cricketing nation it seems.. They produce classy cricketers for themselves and donate them to other nations too.. Wish India too gets a couple of pace bowlers from them and with the sort of batting India has, they can dominate with better bowlers in their lineup..

  • fan2011 on April 19, 2012, 8:21 GMT

    Sri lanka should follow these steps and invite some fast bowling talents from SA, Pakistan to come and play for us..

  • on April 19, 2012, 8:22 GMT

    Excellent news. Wagner will do wonders for NZ when he is selected for them, hopefully in their next tour :D

  • switchmitch on April 19, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    Any chance of Dale Steyn playing for India? We don't mind even if he is not a citizen of India, ask him to just play for us...lol

  • sachin_vvsfan on April 19, 2012, 8:47 GMT

    How about tweaking that rule say 2 consecutive months per year in 4 years? That way we will get all SA bowlers who play in IPL :)

  • Tartanspringbok on April 19, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    Maybe the whole SA squad qualify for NZ now after touring there for 2 months. International cricket and sport in genral is becoming like club cricket. Soon Countries will be touting for players. Test cricket to take on the shape of the IPL with Cricket boards bidding in the closed season for the best players.

    NEWS HEADLINE ** Dale Steyn transfers from South Africa to England for £2.5million**