The Ashes 2013-14 December 2, 2013

Bresnan likely to play in Adelaide

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Allrounder Tim Bresnan has been added to England's Ashes squad and could play in the second Test in Adelaide, which starts on December 5.

Bresnan, 28, was diagnosed with a stress fracture in his lower back in August and missed the final Test of the Ashes in England. While he arrived in Australia with the Test squad, his on-going involvement was always dependent on him proving his fitness ahead of the second Test.

Having taken four wickets in the England Performance Programmes' match against Queensland Second XI last week and undergone a thorough fitness test afterwards, he has now officially been added to the squad. He has also been bowling at full pace in the nets for a couple of weeks.

Chris Tremlett filled the third fast bowler's spot normally taken by Bresnan in Brisbane but produced a modest performance. With England also keen to strengthen the batting after a dismal performance in the first Test and the loss of Jonathan Trott, Bresnan, a far better batsman than Tremlett, could be set for an almost immediate return. Both Steven Finn and Boyd Rankin all but bowled themselves out of contention with disappointing performances in Alice Springs.

It appears that Gary Ballance will benefit from Trott's departure and win the chance to bat at No. 6 in Adelaide, with Joe Root or Ian Bell set to move to No. 3. Root, despite an unconvincing performance in Alice Springs, appears the more likely choice, with the England camp reluctant to weaken a strength by moving Bell from the No. 5 position from which he largely defined the previous series in England.

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • glance_to_leg on December 3, 2013, 22:18 GMT

    Curious thing cricket. England adopt a strategy of picking extremely tall seamers rather than their best seamers. Now they seem reluctant to play any of them except Broad. It makes one wonder why they were selected in the first place.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on December 3, 2013, 19:19 GMT

    Tim Bresnan? Allrounder? Seriously? Words are being thrown around rather loosely now a days, diminishing their value. With the inclusion of Tim 'pop-gun' Bresnan, England's attack slips further. If there is any help in the pitch, Australia will be 2-0 up in this series.

  • Harlequin. on December 3, 2013, 15:11 GMT

    @Chaman Betrabet - I'm in agreement there, as daft as it may sound, adding an extra bowler after being skittled for <200 twice! From the sounds of things, having another spinner at Adelaide will be our best chance for a victory, and I have as much faith in Bresnans batting as I do in Bairstows. Also, going into this test with Bresnan part of a 4 man attack could have serious consequences with regards to injuries.

  • AKS286 on December 3, 2013, 14:57 GMT

    Cook, Root, Hales, Bell, KP, Taylor, Prior, Broad, Swanny, Jimmy, Tremlett. AD HALES is a man for all three format. But this squad is not possible. OK now with squad Cook, Carbs, Root, Bell, KP, Bairstow, Prior, Swanny,Broad, Jimmy, Tremlett. Tremlett bowls good and pick 5 wickets. Tremlett needs aggression and nothing, he is a genuine fast bowler although his speed drops but he build to bowl. I'll prefer Rankin as a second option because he bowls with 140 KMPH which is required in Oz pitches.

  • AlfAlpha on December 3, 2013, 14:24 GMT

    The most Trott like batsman is surely Compton. What has he done to get locked out of the side? Oh well. I'm not a big fan of all of these Yorkshire players in the squad who keep getting over-hyped by certain commentators, but maybe some players from the Performance Squad will inject a bit more soul into the team in the near future.

  • sharidas on December 3, 2013, 13:12 GMT

    It's aways said that it is Bench strength, which defines a quality team. Until Trott's departure everything looked okay. But, now comes a lot of indecision. England does have the players to back up……the only thing is that they must have the belief. Considering that the Adelaide pitch, is not good for fast bowlers, this is as good as any time, for England to make a comeback.

  • chicko1983 on December 3, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    @gm47: What a great attitude you have, this England team were on top of the world for a bit, and they were good. But to sustain world no 1 for a decade or more, you can't keep losing the first Match of a series. England are finishing up, there is even talk of a rebuilding phase coming up. Get ready for englands return to the dark ages.

  • JG2704 on December 3, 2013, 10:26 GMT

    @chicko1983 on (December 3, 2013, 9:28 GMT) And you could also take out his lesser performing series and it his stats would look amazing so it works both ways

  • on December 3, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    Looks a good decision by Eng to play Bresnan. He was quite impressive with the bat back home in England and he will add much wanted balance to the English side. I would also like to see Monty Panesar in the side as it may turn in Adelaide and did turn in the last few days of recent tests there. Would love to see Bresnan instead of Trott and Monty instead of Tremlett and Root batting at no 3. Root is a long term no 3 and it is advisable for Ian Bell to stay at no 5. Overall my final XI would be : 1.Cook 2.Carberry 3.Root 4.Pietersen 5.Bell 6.Prior 7.Bresnan 8.Broad 9.Swann 10.Anderson 11.Panesar.

  • gm47 on December 3, 2013, 9:54 GMT

    @Chico1983. ""Too bad it is all over now. The end is nigh! Dawn of Australian dominance is about to begin!!!""

    So you are still living in your own dream world :)

    England never do well in the first game of any series, Australia will NOT regain the ashes and will be 2nd rate for many years to come. Remember the words above after the Sydney test and the series is over. :):)

  • glance_to_leg on December 3, 2013, 22:18 GMT

    Curious thing cricket. England adopt a strategy of picking extremely tall seamers rather than their best seamers. Now they seem reluctant to play any of them except Broad. It makes one wonder why they were selected in the first place.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on December 3, 2013, 19:19 GMT

    Tim Bresnan? Allrounder? Seriously? Words are being thrown around rather loosely now a days, diminishing their value. With the inclusion of Tim 'pop-gun' Bresnan, England's attack slips further. If there is any help in the pitch, Australia will be 2-0 up in this series.

  • Harlequin. on December 3, 2013, 15:11 GMT

    @Chaman Betrabet - I'm in agreement there, as daft as it may sound, adding an extra bowler after being skittled for <200 twice! From the sounds of things, having another spinner at Adelaide will be our best chance for a victory, and I have as much faith in Bresnans batting as I do in Bairstows. Also, going into this test with Bresnan part of a 4 man attack could have serious consequences with regards to injuries.

  • AKS286 on December 3, 2013, 14:57 GMT

    Cook, Root, Hales, Bell, KP, Taylor, Prior, Broad, Swanny, Jimmy, Tremlett. AD HALES is a man for all three format. But this squad is not possible. OK now with squad Cook, Carbs, Root, Bell, KP, Bairstow, Prior, Swanny,Broad, Jimmy, Tremlett. Tremlett bowls good and pick 5 wickets. Tremlett needs aggression and nothing, he is a genuine fast bowler although his speed drops but he build to bowl. I'll prefer Rankin as a second option because he bowls with 140 KMPH which is required in Oz pitches.

  • AlfAlpha on December 3, 2013, 14:24 GMT

    The most Trott like batsman is surely Compton. What has he done to get locked out of the side? Oh well. I'm not a big fan of all of these Yorkshire players in the squad who keep getting over-hyped by certain commentators, but maybe some players from the Performance Squad will inject a bit more soul into the team in the near future.

  • sharidas on December 3, 2013, 13:12 GMT

    It's aways said that it is Bench strength, which defines a quality team. Until Trott's departure everything looked okay. But, now comes a lot of indecision. England does have the players to back up……the only thing is that they must have the belief. Considering that the Adelaide pitch, is not good for fast bowlers, this is as good as any time, for England to make a comeback.

  • chicko1983 on December 3, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    @gm47: What a great attitude you have, this England team were on top of the world for a bit, and they were good. But to sustain world no 1 for a decade or more, you can't keep losing the first Match of a series. England are finishing up, there is even talk of a rebuilding phase coming up. Get ready for englands return to the dark ages.

  • JG2704 on December 3, 2013, 10:26 GMT

    @chicko1983 on (December 3, 2013, 9:28 GMT) And you could also take out his lesser performing series and it his stats would look amazing so it works both ways

  • on December 3, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    Looks a good decision by Eng to play Bresnan. He was quite impressive with the bat back home in England and he will add much wanted balance to the English side. I would also like to see Monty Panesar in the side as it may turn in Adelaide and did turn in the last few days of recent tests there. Would love to see Bresnan instead of Trott and Monty instead of Tremlett and Root batting at no 3. Root is a long term no 3 and it is advisable for Ian Bell to stay at no 5. Overall my final XI would be : 1.Cook 2.Carberry 3.Root 4.Pietersen 5.Bell 6.Prior 7.Bresnan 8.Broad 9.Swann 10.Anderson 11.Panesar.

  • gm47 on December 3, 2013, 9:54 GMT

    @Chico1983. ""Too bad it is all over now. The end is nigh! Dawn of Australian dominance is about to begin!!!""

    So you are still living in your own dream world :)

    England never do well in the first game of any series, Australia will NOT regain the ashes and will be 2nd rate for many years to come. Remember the words above after the Sydney test and the series is over. :):)

  • JG2704 on December 3, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    @64blip on (December 2, 2013, 22:55 GMT) I think India was a very decent result , esp after being thrashed in the 1st test , but apart from that I think the NZ result was not good and could have been worse had BM not got carried away with things in the final test and vs Australia it was by and large only Bell who held it together with the bat. I think our batsmen have shown alot of vulnerability as a unit in the last couple of years

  • chicko1983 on December 3, 2013, 9:28 GMT

    @neil99: The funny thing is, if you take out Bresnan's 2010-2011 summer down under and 2011 in England, Bresnan actually averages more with the ball (41) than Warner does with the bat (39) in his test cricket career!. That summer is a real anomaly for England, playing the weakest Australian team ever, they padded their stats and made themselves look wildly better than they are. Bresnan, Anderson, Cook, Bell, Pieterson, Prior, and Swann all had one of their best series in their careers. Too bad it is all over now. The end is nigh! Dawn of Australian dominance is about to begin!!!

  • JG2704 on December 3, 2013, 9:23 GMT

    @Englishfan - Fair enough , if you reckon Davies is a significantly better keeper. Not seen too much of both to compare but battingwise I wouldn't say 30 is so bad if you're keeping as well - I think only Stewart and Prior averaged more as a WK for Eng in the last 2-3 decades and I think MP has upped his average over the years and AS def had a slow start. For me there's alot to like about Jonny. Sure he has technical flaws but I think he has some character about him and a willingness to learn and as a squad player he can keep wicket and is also an excellent out fielder. The modest record in other forms should only come into play when discussing other forms. And re

    "also that 40 minute spell vs South Africa at Lords when on 95"

    Could be said , the fact he got to 95 vs the best attack in the world says something about him - esp after being written off by so many after WI

  • Topperspinner on December 3, 2013, 8:49 GMT

    Bresnan shouldn't play -- as many have commented it's too soon, keep him for Perth. For all the talk, I won't be remotely surprised if the drop-in pitch is a road. We should play Swann & Panesar, plus Moeen Ali who's in form with the bat and can also bowl some handy overs.

  • HatsforBats on December 3, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    There seems to be a whiff of panic emanating from the England camp. Recently recovered from a stress fracture, it seems ludicrous to select Bresnan in the first of back to back tests. Unless he isn't being considered for Perth (Finn and/or Rankin may be in line?) it would be a tough task to place on Bresnan. And Root at 3? He's an excellent young prospect but it's a bit harsh to drop him from opening and then push him back up at the first sign of trouble. I know the past arguments about Bell at first drop, but he's the finished product now, he has the game (mental and technical) to be a huge success there. Let Bresnan fully recover, trust your bowling attack (with 800+ test wickets) and play Root & Ballance @ 5/6 (with Root to bowl plenty, KP could also bowl more).

  • CodandChips on December 3, 2013, 7:41 GMT

    I agree that my comments were an overreaction but I would like to see that team in the West Indies. Give the youngsters a go.

    @64blip the reason I call our batsmen past it is because their averages are clearly decreasing and we probably have had more collapses recently than big scores.

    Based on the squad for this series I would have Bell at 3- he's batted there before. Ballance at 6 and Bairstow at 7 (hopefully he can prove me wrong). Don't want to see Bresnan, Finn or Rankin for me. If the pitch looks like we need 2 spinners why not play Panesar and have Stokes at 6/7 as an extra bowling option.

  • charliebear on December 3, 2013, 7:30 GMT

    It's a concern that Bresnan seems to be viewed as England's saviour. He needs to bat at six or seven and be part of a five-man bowling attack for his style of player to be truly effective. His batting performances don't justify that sort of elevation. And all evidence suggests they are unlikely to in the future. He is the sort of bowler who enables others to attack - he's not a front-liner. Get a batting average of 40-plus, stick him in at six - then he becomes perhaps England's most important player. Until then there's too much pressure on the other bowlers - especially on a wicket like Adelaide's.

  • CamH on December 3, 2013, 7:01 GMT

    A very big ask for Bresnan to come back and make a significant contribution so soon after a back injury in a test where the third seam bowler should be prepared to send down 50 overs. He is a respectable cricketer who gets the most out off his talent and would be handy on the old style Adelaide wicket on the 5th day where skiddy bowlers can benefit from variable bounce. Not sure about the drop in wicket though and it can be a bit of a quick bowlers graveyard as we saw last year where none of the Aussie quicks who played in Adelaide backed up for Perth. As an Australian fan I think this is the real opportunity to have Broad and Anderson send down 45 to 50 overs each and then back it up for Perth. Given the lack of quality pace back up in the England team we could really use fatigue as a major weapon in the overall series if our batsmen are disciplined enough to bat long. Should be aiming for around 150 overs in the first innings.

  • BounceTrack_BULLY on December 3, 2013, 6:15 GMT

    Bresnan is a great player, he can bat too. England's bowling looks good, but their weakness against fast bowling is exposed in 1st test. It would be challenging for them to bonce back considering the off field play.

  • on December 3, 2013, 5:53 GMT

    Bresnan is a good cricketer who learnt more in his season at Sutherland DCC than he ever did playing county cricket. Now, I feel sure that he is part-Aussie :P

  • Biggus on December 3, 2013, 5:52 GMT

    Is Bresnan ready to bowl for long periods? Unless the England think tank are very sure of this it's surely somewhat of a panic move. Personally I'd drop Tremlett for Panesar and play it safe.

  • neil99 on December 3, 2013, 5:26 GMT

    Chris_P Sadly my friend, you forot the mecurial RandyOz. Battered on the Beebs website, he/she's now turned up here.

    RandyOz At 6'0'' and built like a brick out-house, it's more likely that Bresnan will smash Warner (avge 39) all around the park. And he has my most sincere wishes in completing that venture.

  • Chris_P on December 3, 2013, 3:55 GMT

    Just wanted to say kudos to (most) fans here having intelligent posts & discussions, I wish the trolls would just go. I believe nearly everyone here is a genuine cricket fan who appreciates the game & naturally support their team.

  • Bonehead_maz on December 3, 2013, 1:33 GMT

    @ BlueyCollar on (December 2, 2013, 18:26 GMT) .... exactly what I was thinking. I can't believe they'd consider it unless also playing Stokes to replace Trott..... or Bairstow to replace Prior and Monty to replace Tremlett. I think your 50 overs is otherwise realistically conservative.

  • on December 3, 2013, 0:45 GMT

    This is fantastic...As usual England lose 1 test and the knives are out...how could anyone question Bell's place in the side...The only person in the top order who looks totally out of his depth is Joe Root however he is rated as England's savior..from what I don't know..I think we will get a better picture of how England are travelling after the first two days of the Adelaide Test..England have been a decent side for at least 2-3 years.. they will not become useless overnight... Regardless "C'mon Aussie C'mon"

  • Regulators on December 2, 2013, 23:03 GMT

    @Englishfan As an Oz supporter, I wish you were an English selector. Im sure Johnson and Harris would be licking their lips at the prospect of bowling at the rookie lineup you've named. And I can guarantee our batsmen would prefer facing Finn and Jordan rather than Anderson and Bresnan no matter what the pitch conditions. But as an Oz supporter, comments such as these from English fans fills me with much hope that the English fans and soon the English media will ride this strong English team into the ground before too long. Sheesh, you lost one test!! Talk about an overreaction!! If you lose the next test too, could you please start a campaign to also drop Swann and Cook, coz we Aussies'd pretty happy to see that too. C'mon Aussies!!

  • 64blip on December 2, 2013, 22:55 GMT

    @Englishfan I don't feel your pain because you come across as a more-subtle-than-most WUM to me. What England fan would dismiss the series victory in India like that? Even most Aussie posters give credit where it's due on that one. In a previous post you described an attack of Anderson, Broad and Swann as "weak", an opinion shared by no-one in world cricket. To say non of England's test victories since losing to SA count because, well, they weren't against SA would make sense coming from, well, not an English fan. When you went on to describe the entire batting line up as "past it" and then suggest that alternative team I just thought "Troll on, mate." I actually think you might be an Indian fan - nothing "remarkable" about their "transition".

  • RandyOZ on December 2, 2013, 22:46 GMT

    Awesome news, another slow-medium trundler for Warner to smash to all parts.

  • blink182alex on December 2, 2013, 22:04 GMT

    No worries, Bresnan is way overrated by English fans. Fair enough his record v Australia is respectable but he only gets a game for England because he can bat. In terms of bowling ability i reckon there are about 7-8 better quicks in Australia.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on December 2, 2013, 22:03 GMT

    If I was Boof, I would be expecting Cook, Carberry, Root, KP, Bell, Prior Bresnan, Broad, Swann Anderson ( Monty or Balance) it all depends on whether flower thinks they need to bolster bowling or batting,

  • whoster on December 2, 2013, 21:24 GMT

    England are a stronger team with Bresnan in it - and that's backed-up by the stats. Even so, it'll be a gamble because he hasn't played much cricket since his injury. If there's any question whatsoever about Bresnan's ability to bowl a lot of overs, England should stick with Tremlett. Ok, he's hardly the terror of three years ago, but our bowling resources aren't exactly bountiful. No way Finn or Rankin can be considered. Building-up pressure through accuracy is the way for fast (ahem) bowlers to take wickets in Adelaide, and Tremlett's the best out of a pretty mediocre bunch.

    There's always the option of playing Panesar in place of the third seamer. It'd be another gamble of course, but he's shown many times how good he can be - especially in India where he outbowled Swann. The spin department is the one area where England have better resources than the Aussies, and playing Swann and Panesar in tandem would be interesting.

  • RednWhiteArmy on December 2, 2013, 21:15 GMT

    Oh yeeahh! Bresnan in for Tremlett & Ballance/Stokes in for Trott. Ballance has a FC average of 54 and would be an ideal number 6. Stokes could help the bowling and and FC batting averages 36. Here comes the fightback, cue the rocky theme music!

  • The_Jolly_Cricketer on December 2, 2013, 20:57 GMT

    England all the way - coming from behind to snatch the ashes series!

  • milepost on December 2, 2013, 20:50 GMT

    Excellent, realistic comments by English supporters. It was easy to gloss over problems when winning but not anymore. Players like Onions and Compton not even on tour while consistent failures are? I mean I'm not displeased with England picking a terrible side with regards to Australia winning but I am hoping to see some good competitive cricket which seems unlikely at the moment.

  • InsideHedge on December 2, 2013, 20:46 GMT

    Bresnan for Tremlett is a good swap, he'll do a far better job on what is expected to be a flat track, and possibly one which gets better as the match wears on. Bresnan can bowl long spells.

    Ballance is a very talented batsman, I expect him to do well. However, it has to be a genuine concern now as to the number of players in the England national squads who learned their trade in another country. It's now beyond reasonable.

  • CodandChips on December 2, 2013, 20:27 GMT

    @RU4Real @JG2704 the reason I would prefer Davies to Bairstow is because I feel he is a much safer pair of hands. Also Bairstow in my opinion has failed as a test batsman; an average of 30 and just 4 50s, as well as a modest record in the other forms. Dont forget JB misses straight balls and has struggled against the short ball (not just Roach but also that 40 minute spell vs South Africa at Lords when on 95). I personally felt Davies was dropped unfairly from the ODI side and showed he could be alright in international cricket.

    The reason I would want Root opening is to help build the team. We are in need of transition. Bell was poor before the home ashes and perhaps would have been dropped by other countries.

    It's time for change. Enough of picking overrated players who are past it and have a good success record in the last year due to modest opposition. Im fed up.

    Hence 1.Cook 2.Root 3.Moeen 4.Ballance 5.Taylor 6.Woakes 7.Davies 8.Broad 9.Swann 10.Jordan 11.Finn.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on December 2, 2013, 19:56 GMT

    @Englishfan (post on December 2, 2013, 17:27 GMT): I feel your pain, but I doubt hoisting about six newbies into test cricket at the same time, never-mind during a big Ashes series against a fired-up Aus. will solve anything. The bowling didn't lose us the last game (although Australia did bowl better) - the ridiculous batting did. I'm usually the first to express my frustration at the likes of KP whom people always hype up as a series-winner, but concede it would be a very brave selection panel that drops him. Don't think Bell has done much wrong for a long time; have no idea why you'd want to stick with Root opening; and you haven't answered JG2704 on what basis Davis should be wicket-keeper ahead of others like Bairstow? Given the history of this next pitch, I do agree England need to seriously consider an extra bowling option though. I cannot see four bowlers prospering here unless all four are in top form. Only if Bresnan is 100% fit should he be part of it.

  • on December 2, 2013, 19:56 GMT

    they should bring in Eoin Morgan and Boyd Rankin. #Ireland4teststatus

  • Ozcricketwriter on December 2, 2013, 19:11 GMT

    Is Bresnan taking Trott's spot or Tremlett's? If it is Trott's spot, fair enough, as you could do with an extra bowler in Adelaide. If it is Tremlett's, then this is a big worry, as Bresnan surely can't bowl enough overs in a test match to warrant a spot as the 4th bowler, and surely on a spin friendly pitch you'd want to play Panesar. Very unwise if Bresnan is replacing Tremlett.

  • BlueyCollar on December 2, 2013, 18:26 GMT

    So England are going to gamble a players long term health to possibly win a test match. I am no doctor but it seems fast bowlers with stress fractures in their backs are usually out of the game for 12 months. What if, as predicted, the pitch is a batting paradise and Bresnan is required to bowl 50 plus overs? If he breaks down, not only will it be a tragedy for the player but that would leave England with Swann, Anderson and Broad to bowl themselves into oblivion. No Trott to bowl some seamers either. Could that trio back up in Perth. Huge gamble for both Bresnan and England.

  • mraxe on December 2, 2013, 18:18 GMT

    Why isnt England going with Boyd Rankin ?? He will be a great asset on OZ pitches

  • on December 2, 2013, 17:41 GMT

    England went to Australia believing in their batting machine which did not fire in the first test. So why panic? I think what they need to do is to have confidence in themselves. The only change I would suggest, apart from the problem of the nuimber 3 spot is to use their two top spinners, Monty and Swan.

  • crazytaurean on December 2, 2013, 17:32 GMT

    My choice for England's playing XI 1. Cook, 2. Carberry, 3. Bell, 4. Pietersen, 5.Root, 6. Ballance, 7. Prior(wk), 8. Stokes, 9. Broad, 10.Swann, 11.Anderson

  • CodandChips on December 2, 2013, 17:27 GMT

    Sick and tired of picking players on name alone. It's ridiculous. Look at our batsmen. We continue to pick players who used to be great despite the fact that they are past their best and they fail time and time again, decimating their averages. We've had too many collapses and no high scores this year. People make a point that we've only lost 2 tests since the south africa series, but we played teams which have been at best mediocre. India before their reamarkable transition were there for the taking. NewZealand are no world beaters. Australia were a poor team last summer who we only just scraped to victory against at Trent Bridge and Durham was no picnic.

    Our bowling lacks bite. So we're going to replace our unfit medium pacer with control with a smaller unfit medium pacer with control who bats a bit better. So we now have 3 seamers who average over 30. Kinda a problem when we cant score more than 300.

    Cook Root Moeen Ballance Taylor Woakes Davies Broad Swann Jordan Finn

  • Speng on December 2, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    Only 3 months off for a stress fracture... I hope for Bres' sake that they're not flogging a dead horse. I don't think he can do worse than Tremlett but that's not really the issue. Anderson and Swann didn't have good returns which made Tremlett's ineffectiveness all the more glaring. England are going to have a hard time winning the series if Jimmy and Swanny can't take wickets. Five bowlers is an option and I would take Monty as the fifth as none of Tremlett, Rankin or Finn look like taking wickets at this point. As it is right now England need to improve their bowling performance to win this series as they don't look to have 20 wickets in them regardless of how many runs they score.

  • on December 2, 2013, 16:56 GMT

    Unless you are playing in the sub continent, Panesar cannot be picked because it means you are fielding with ten men and batting with ten men, he's that poor a cricketer.

  • milepost on December 2, 2013, 16:44 GMT

    @wapuser, there hasn't been much swing in the shield matches and Johnson swinging the ball at 155kms is pretty handy. I don't think Bresnan bowls faster than 130 does he?

  • on December 2, 2013, 16:36 GMT

    England need wickets. Y cant they take steven finn .. He is a wicket ticket. In adelaide flat pitch ,finn will be more usefull . Root should bat at 3. Bairstow has some experience so let him play at 6..

  • on December 2, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    I think everyone has missed a key point. If the pitch is so as described by everyone, then reverse swing is going to be available quite early. Then it would be the battle of two sides where most probably the winner would be the one who can use the reverse swing better. I don't think anyone on the bench is a better exponent of it than Bresnan.

  • AKS286 on December 2, 2013, 14:33 GMT

    Now Eng is having 3 rookies batsmen Carbs, Ballance & Root. Cook & KP are still not in there best. Tremlett & Bresnan if we compare bowling then almost similar. But Tremlett is more reliable on Oz pitches the only thing Tremlett is missing is aggression. Suddenly Oz team looks more favourite.

  • itismenithin on December 2, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    England need to go with five bowlers on a flat adelaide wicket, it would take some load off Anderson and Broad. Panesar and Bresnan should be included in the line up. This is only way England could bounce back into the series.

  • Nutcutlet on December 2, 2013, 14:05 GMT

    @ DaisonGarvasis on (December 2, 9:03 GMT) Very few 'all-rounders' are precisely that. Sobers, perhaps, came closest to fulfilling the role, yet there were phases when he was more bowler than batsman, or vice-versa. In recent years, I think we see a cricketer with all-round capabilites as being either a batting allrounder (say Watto, or Steve Smith) or a bowling AR (like Jadeja, Ashwin, Broad, & Mitch Johnson, perhaps). This category seems to slide into the next: bowlers who can bat - typicially Swann & Siddle. It's a moot point as to where Bresnan should be positioned. I'm prepared to take him as a player from whom England expects resistance with the bat (it's not all about aggregates; it is about partnerships) & a gritty 50 or so from time-to time: in other words, an ideal #8. Anyway, if he's ready to go at Adelaide, England will be pleased to see such a reliable performer back in harness. Eng is always stronger & more resilient for his presence. Cometh the hour, cometh the Yorkie!

  • YorkshirePudding on December 2, 2013, 13:57 GMT

    @David Wise, I dont agree gone are the days when bowlers bowled and Batsmen batted, now bowlers are expected to contribute with the bat as well as with the ball.

    Its also worth noting that most tails (8-11) now contribute 80-150 runs, it also has the added benefit of frustratins the fielding side when that happens as they can spend an extra hour or two in the field.

  • YorkshirePudding on December 2, 2013, 13:20 GMT

    @cloudmess, not a bad appraisal though I dont think its got as bad as the 90's just yet. At Best Carberry is a stop gap, I personally thought they promoted Root to opener a year too early, the bowling has looke jaded and I think Anderson, and Swann are on the down side of thier careers now. Tremlett is past it hes lost a year or two of pace due to injury and too much time in the gym.

    Maybe its time for flower to go and look for another coach (not Giles, please not him) to take over the running of the test team as I think hes run out of steam and expect to see him leave after this series.

  • on December 2, 2013, 13:19 GMT

    Adelaide sounds like a five bowler wicket so yes, Brez for Tremlett and Stokes for Trott. Given Trott's poor form this strengthens both batting and bowling but I reckon England will go for Ballance as they are pretty wedded to the 4 man attack. Stokes and Brez. C'mon!

  • Vishnu27 on December 2, 2013, 13:11 GMT

    If Tremlett produced a "modest performance", what are they calling Swann & Anderson's efforts??

    Nandu Ravi: that's a massive call for an underdone player coming back from a back injury into the Ashes cauldron 1-nil down...

  • on December 2, 2013, 12:59 GMT

    Bowlers should be picked on their ability to bowl not what they can do with the bat. The whole point of picking six specialist batsman and a batting wicket-keeper is to reduce the batting demands on the bowlers. It should not be the job of number 8 and below to make amends for the frailties of those who get paid solely to get runs.

    Having said that, Bresnan has played a important supporting role in the bowling foursome in recent times and if his fitness is up to scratch - I welcome his return.

  • DJAbacus on December 2, 2013, 12:51 GMT

    @ Chicko...Hardly falling apart for England. They will make 2 changes. One forced. Ballance/Bairstow for the injured Trott. One tactical. Bresnan for Tremlett. Bres is England's first choice 3rd seamer when fit and slots in at number 8 rather nicely. The signs are this will be a length and line type wicket so England will be well up for this now and looking foward to getting back into this series.

  • chicko1983 on December 2, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    England getting desparate, bringing in a bowler who took four wickets against a second xi state team! Ha! The only batsman of class in that game, joe burns (who is pretty good, would be playing for england at the moment) made 197 runs for the the loss of one wicket facing bresnan and co. It's all falling apart for England.

  • cloudmess on December 2, 2013, 11:36 GMT

    The problem is that the England management has started to slip into a reactive mind-set for picking players again, more akin to the 1980s and 90s. I have no idea, for example, what Carberry is doing in the side, when he is 33 and clearly not a test batsman of the future. Get Ballance and Bairstow in - the flatter Australian pitches will better suit the latter's hit through the line type of the batting. There is a strong sense that Flower's England is jaded and past their best, and some of that is the fault of the management - Flower's style is too intense and intransigent, tending to treat his players more like well-oiled machines than humans. They've become all too professional. They need a bit more positivity and sparkle again. They badly need a dose of what Chappelli recently described as the Keith Miller spirit - something which the great Aussie side of the late 90s and 00s had in spades.

  • Manxmuppet on December 2, 2013, 11:22 GMT

    Moeen Ali for number 3. Could bat all day and then bowl all day (or vice versa). It's not like he's out of touch, 1,300 runs last year, an 83 and a 5-for for the EPP in his last game.

  • Beertjie on December 2, 2013, 11:16 GMT

    You make excellent points @Dangertroy on (December 2, 2013, 9:31 GMT), but desperate times require desperate remedies. Bring back al the B's: Bairstow (for Prior), Ballance (for Trott), and Bresnan (for Tremlett). Consider Stokes while you're about it - he'd make a good fourth seamer somewhere along the line. Avoid playing Panesar, though - he might just help win you the test!

  • on December 2, 2013, 11:12 GMT

    Bresnan is better player who can bat well so try him slot 3.

  • YorkshirePudding on December 2, 2013, 11:11 GMT

    @Ben Rolto, I dont think england want to play less batsmen, I think you will see a straight switch of Bresnan for Tremlett and Ballance come in at 6 in place of Trott, with Bell/Root at 3.

    As you say the Batting was the main issue at Brisbane not the bowling.

  • on December 2, 2013, 10:49 GMT

    @sachin why would you drop carberry he made 40 runs in a team that was 91/8? This is stupid England wanting to play less batsman and more bowlers after their display in Brisbane... Some people know little to nothing about cricket on here...but heck by all means play your 5 bowlers.. Will make my beers in the members stand that much sweeter as we head towards 2-0!

  • on December 2, 2013, 10:41 GMT

    Bresnan could be key in Adelaide. The batter-friendly pitch would mean you need bowlers bowling to conventional line and length, where Bresnan can shine.

  • VivGilchrist on December 2, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    Well,well, well, looks like its Bell hiding down at no 5 now....

  • on December 2, 2013, 10:04 GMT

    Bresnan will play,but please dont call him an all rounder-thats for the Bothams etc of this world-at best he is average at batting ,a slightly better bowler- but not a match winner as his career record shows.

  • BMDeep on December 2, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    I guess everyone is missing a fair point here. The point that Australian batting is even weak than the depleted England after trott. So, I think Eng should go for a kill here. Go with 5 batsmen and 5 bowlers, 1 wk. I think its high time to put some more confidence in Broads batting abilities, after all, he is called an ALL ROUNDER these days, isnt it? nd amidst al d talk that dey may include Bresnan fr Trmlett, dey sure got sme lower order stability dat might give dem a gud 80-100 runs.I am from India nd I have said this in the past aswel. Panesar posed some serious qns to Indian batsmen who r regarded as sme of d best players of spin.So,y not employ him against Aus.If sme say dat d pitches r nt conductive for spin, well Adelaide is certainly a slower wkt that Gabba and most importantly Aus batsmen r like walking ducks against good spin bowling. I believe Panesar wil also provide much needed stability bowling in parnership wid swann who is very ineffective off late as lead spinner.

  • mike.007 on December 2, 2013, 9:49 GMT

    If Bressy is fit, as seems so, this strengthens the batting and bowling as he replaces Tremlett. Looks like Root at 3 with Ballance at 6, another Yorkshire CC player. Remember the old saying "When Yorkshire are strong England are strong".

  • Tigg on December 2, 2013, 9:35 GMT

    1 Cook, 2 Carberry, 3 Compton, 4 KP, 5 Bell, 6 Root, 7 Prior, 8 Broad, 9 Swann, 10 Anderson, 11 Onions would be my ideal XI. Failing that I'd like to see Stokes at six as a flat pitch means the possibility of long overs grinding the bowlers down.

  • EdGreen on December 2, 2013, 9:32 GMT

    Interesting view on a bowler to replace - Anderson took 2-140, Swann 2-215 and Tremlett 4-120 (with a lot of those runs coming off the edge over slips and keeper).

    Tremlett is also a more of a new ball bowler than a first change man, and, like Broad, best used in short sharp spells.

    Of course - the management have a strong record of sticking with their core guys but...

  • Dangertroy on December 2, 2013, 9:31 GMT

    So when Bell bats at 5 it's a strength, when Clarke bats at 5 he is hiding down the order? Its ludicrous to push Root back up the order when Bell is clearly the form player, who has experience as a test number 3. If Root fails at 3 then what? persist with him at 3? back to six? drop him? Move him back up to open?

    I also think that rushing Bresnan back after a 3 day outing against the Queensland second XI is asking or trouble. Does he have the match fitness for five days on a flat wicket in Adelaide, and then back it up for the WACA three days later?

  • DJAbacus on December 2, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    Bresnan provides the balance that have helped England become so successful, especially against Australia, in the last 5 years. He helps extend the batting order, taking the pressure of the top order. He bowls at a good pace with control and provides a good foil for Anderson and Broad. He is a more than competent fielder and a great team player. For some reason, some Australian supporters suddenly consider anyone who bowls under 90 mph to be an average bowler; a medium pace trundler even. I doubt the Australian team and management would agree with them. Personally, I would throw in Stokes at 6 and really give Cook plenty of bowling options. However, if Bresnan plays then they will probably play either Ballance or Bairstow at 6. I have total confidence Andy Flower and his team will make the right decisions about selection and England will come back fighting. This break will have helped England re group. Roll on Wednesday/Thursday.

  • anton1234 on December 2, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    I might be tempted to give Tremlett another go. I think if he can up his pace 3-4mph, then I think he is the right person. He is a far better bowler than Bresnan. One thing I really couldn't understand is how slow Tremlett bowled in the 1st test. Was it deliberate (for control) or is he done?

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on December 2, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    @Milepost: Neither do most sane England fans, but the bottom line is Onions is not on tour in Australia and Bresnan is. Stats do not tell the full story in cricket, so don't get too excited there scrolling through his figures. Bresnan's a good cricketer who holds up an end really well in tests, and personally I'd much rather he play than certain other bowlers that have done naught all year. He also has his moments with the bat I suppose - but I find it quite laughable that the likes of he and Broad are considered "all-rounders"...

  • valvolux on December 2, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    A welcome inclusion for England, they really need that extra bowler, especially in Adelaide and Bresnan has shown he has an action suitable for Australian pitches. Question is form though not fitness, I don't think you can read too much into his warmup match. I'm guessing he's coming in for Trott, with no other changes, unless they ditch Tremlett for Monty but i'm guessing the faith Cook shows in Root he will be the second spinner. Cook, Carbs, Root, KP, Bell, Prior, Bresnan, Broad, Swann, Tremlett, Anderson. I don't know, I just look at that lineup and with Trott missing it just seems less daunting. Huge opportunity to get KP in early - he seems to love Adelaide so Australia need to get him back to the dressing rooms quickly. Interesting how England are hell bent on protecting Bell at 5, when Australia seem hell bent on moving their best batsmen up the order whenever required.

  • on December 2, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    England XI for Adelaide Test 1. Cook 2. Root 3. Bell 4. Bairstow 5. Pietersen 6. Ballance 7 Prior 8. Bresnan 9. Broad 10. Swann 11. Anderson. I have sandwiched youngsters between the experience players, which will help them for scoring little under pressure as senior pro will be there on other end to relieve the pressure and most important stop the experiment Carberry. If Prior fails continuosly in next 2 tests than time to call back James Taylor in the middle order and hand over the gloves to Bairstow. Time to think about the future and built the team too.

  • jimbond on December 2, 2013, 9:04 GMT

    If he is replacing a bowler, he will strengthen England's batting, without really strengthening the bowling. It will be interesting to see what England does if Australia wins the toss and scores 450 plus- which is the probable total- given this bowling attack.

  • DaisonGarvasis on December 2, 2013, 9:03 GMT

    "Allrounder" Tim Bresnan??? Since when he has become an "all rounder"? Is Broad an allrounder or bowler? Who bats better Broad or Bresnen? So are England looking for excuses to include a below par bowler to the squad by calling him "allrounder"? Anyways, so if Bresnan plays who misses out? Broad or Anderson are not going to sit out. So Bresnan comes in for Tremlett? It can't be for Bresnen's superior bowling ability over Tremlet for sure! And thats why the "allrounder" tag, isnt it?

  • baji003 on December 2, 2013, 8:49 GMT

    Are they selecting players to return sledging or to play cricket ?? ., Bresnan replaces Trott ?? then., Aussie-ENG 2-0 !!

  • milepost on December 2, 2013, 8:43 GMT

    Fantastic news for Australia. England likely to rush back an average player from injury to bolster their weak bowling and batting. I don't get the logic when Onions is fit?

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  • milepost on December 2, 2013, 8:43 GMT

    Fantastic news for Australia. England likely to rush back an average player from injury to bolster their weak bowling and batting. I don't get the logic when Onions is fit?

  • baji003 on December 2, 2013, 8:49 GMT

    Are they selecting players to return sledging or to play cricket ?? ., Bresnan replaces Trott ?? then., Aussie-ENG 2-0 !!

  • DaisonGarvasis on December 2, 2013, 9:03 GMT

    "Allrounder" Tim Bresnan??? Since when he has become an "all rounder"? Is Broad an allrounder or bowler? Who bats better Broad or Bresnen? So are England looking for excuses to include a below par bowler to the squad by calling him "allrounder"? Anyways, so if Bresnan plays who misses out? Broad or Anderson are not going to sit out. So Bresnan comes in for Tremlett? It can't be for Bresnen's superior bowling ability over Tremlet for sure! And thats why the "allrounder" tag, isnt it?

  • jimbond on December 2, 2013, 9:04 GMT

    If he is replacing a bowler, he will strengthen England's batting, without really strengthening the bowling. It will be interesting to see what England does if Australia wins the toss and scores 450 plus- which is the probable total- given this bowling attack.

  • on December 2, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    England XI for Adelaide Test 1. Cook 2. Root 3. Bell 4. Bairstow 5. Pietersen 6. Ballance 7 Prior 8. Bresnan 9. Broad 10. Swann 11. Anderson. I have sandwiched youngsters between the experience players, which will help them for scoring little under pressure as senior pro will be there on other end to relieve the pressure and most important stop the experiment Carberry. If Prior fails continuosly in next 2 tests than time to call back James Taylor in the middle order and hand over the gloves to Bairstow. Time to think about the future and built the team too.

  • valvolux on December 2, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    A welcome inclusion for England, they really need that extra bowler, especially in Adelaide and Bresnan has shown he has an action suitable for Australian pitches. Question is form though not fitness, I don't think you can read too much into his warmup match. I'm guessing he's coming in for Trott, with no other changes, unless they ditch Tremlett for Monty but i'm guessing the faith Cook shows in Root he will be the second spinner. Cook, Carbs, Root, KP, Bell, Prior, Bresnan, Broad, Swann, Tremlett, Anderson. I don't know, I just look at that lineup and with Trott missing it just seems less daunting. Huge opportunity to get KP in early - he seems to love Adelaide so Australia need to get him back to the dressing rooms quickly. Interesting how England are hell bent on protecting Bell at 5, when Australia seem hell bent on moving their best batsmen up the order whenever required.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on December 2, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    @Milepost: Neither do most sane England fans, but the bottom line is Onions is not on tour in Australia and Bresnan is. Stats do not tell the full story in cricket, so don't get too excited there scrolling through his figures. Bresnan's a good cricketer who holds up an end really well in tests, and personally I'd much rather he play than certain other bowlers that have done naught all year. He also has his moments with the bat I suppose - but I find it quite laughable that the likes of he and Broad are considered "all-rounders"...

  • anton1234 on December 2, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    I might be tempted to give Tremlett another go. I think if he can up his pace 3-4mph, then I think he is the right person. He is a far better bowler than Bresnan. One thing I really couldn't understand is how slow Tremlett bowled in the 1st test. Was it deliberate (for control) or is he done?

  • DJAbacus on December 2, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    Bresnan provides the balance that have helped England become so successful, especially against Australia, in the last 5 years. He helps extend the batting order, taking the pressure of the top order. He bowls at a good pace with control and provides a good foil for Anderson and Broad. He is a more than competent fielder and a great team player. For some reason, some Australian supporters suddenly consider anyone who bowls under 90 mph to be an average bowler; a medium pace trundler even. I doubt the Australian team and management would agree with them. Personally, I would throw in Stokes at 6 and really give Cook plenty of bowling options. However, if Bresnan plays then they will probably play either Ballance or Bairstow at 6. I have total confidence Andy Flower and his team will make the right decisions about selection and England will come back fighting. This break will have helped England re group. Roll on Wednesday/Thursday.

  • Dangertroy on December 2, 2013, 9:31 GMT

    So when Bell bats at 5 it's a strength, when Clarke bats at 5 he is hiding down the order? Its ludicrous to push Root back up the order when Bell is clearly the form player, who has experience as a test number 3. If Root fails at 3 then what? persist with him at 3? back to six? drop him? Move him back up to open?

    I also think that rushing Bresnan back after a 3 day outing against the Queensland second XI is asking or trouble. Does he have the match fitness for five days on a flat wicket in Adelaide, and then back it up for the WACA three days later?