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IPL 2013

April 12, 2013

Are foreign captains a liability in the IPL?

Yes

Given the cap of four overseas players, it doesn't help the team if one of them is an automatic selection regardless of performance.

No

In a tournament with so many young players unused to high-pressure situations, an experienced foreign head is invaluable.

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April 13, 2013, 20:27 GMT

By AKSHAY1910

Experience is necessary in such pressure Cooker environment but the fact that most of these foreign captains are legends of the other versions of game and not T20 cannot be ignored. These players add stability when the team is young and need a good leader to lead them like we saw in case of RR and even DC when Gilchrist led them to victory but it is failing in case of MI and PWI. The cap of 4 foreign players are adding pressure on the captains because there are some good T20 foreign players sitting on bench and waiting for their chance to perform. So the idea should be that do not make them captain before the start of the tournament. Let them perform freely, they can always give valuable advice to everyone and if the team is failing continuously then they can be handed the captaincy. This is working for RCB, KKR and it can work for any team. This will also allow team management to have all options open for 4 foreign players and the pressure on senior foreign players will reduce.

April 19, 2013, 16:55 GMT

By  

YEAH! its liable! doesn't matter the captain foreign or countrymen but he must be dedicated to his team

April 17, 2013, 14:27 GMT

By AKS286

If we look at the stats except of Mumbai Indians all top teams are captained by Indian players. Sanga, Mathews, Jayawardene - The SriLankan Trio are not impressive. For Pune team i think S.Smith is a good option and for hyderabad team White is good. and also Oz are good leaders.

April 16, 2013, 8:04 GMT

By  

yes look at performances of ponting , sanga, mathews ,They want get dropped and will be liability for the teams kesav koundinya

April 16, 2013, 6:13 GMT

By kiranteja

yes they are a liability as there is a limitation, if the said captain looses form it becomes that much hard for the team to adjust to a new captain

April 15, 2013, 11:33 GMT

By  

Indian players should be given the 1st preference for Captaincy and a Foreign player should only be selected as Captain if there is absolutely no Indian alternative. Having a foreign Captain can be big risk because it freezes 1 of the possible 4 overseas position and every team have atleast 6-7 good foreign players to fill 4 posts. If 1 post is occupied by captain who is not performing it will be become a problem. Better option could be to have an foreign vice-captain from 1 of the playing 4 in all matches to guide Indian Captain

April 15, 2013, 8:57 GMT

By mjrvasu

Never mind if it is a liability or not. Basic fact is this is an Indian event. Here is a golden opportunity for so many of our players to get the exposure and some experience of training and actual play. Every IPL team needs to have an Indian as a captain, even if not experienced, here is his opportunity to get inducted and trained for future leadership, if so needed. The other thing we see that is it a must that every team should play all their 4 players per quota? Why not less and give the place to an Indian cricketer, if the overseas player is not in form?

April 15, 2013, 6:21 GMT

By  

Regardless whether its a local or a foreign captain, they will automatically select themselves in the team. And if the local player doesnt perform then he will too be subjected to a question similar to one proposed here. The argument lies in the size of the pool of each group, while more local platers feature in all squads; its important to recognise that the abilities of most foreign players are far superior to the that of the 2nd string locals (if we go by the stats available). then the number of locals up for contention for captaincy is similar to the foreign players. Captain is selected by the team after he has been purchased, so its up to the team management and the team as a whole to select a captain. While mot are not as courageous as sanga to drop himself from the team after a string of bad performances, i am sure most franchises would take a call in such extreme circumstances, maybe after 2 more weeks i hope we will see teams taking hard calls and making appropriate decisions.

April 15, 2013, 5:15 GMT

By  

Absolutely, there is a problem of one player playing for the team inspite of the reason whether he performs or not like Ponting, Jayawardene, Sanga & Adam... They may do well as a captain but as a player they are below par which is a liability for the franchise to replace him with some other player, who may really waiting to perform well like Maxwell, Shah & etc..

April 14, 2013, 16:52 GMT

By Aman1610

I agree foreign players as captain is a liability.

April 14, 2013, 14:23 GMT

By  

No,because the role Indian player is very important while selecting players especially when you are opting lesser experience or uncapped player which are not tested on international level . domestic captains could identify row talent and conditions in India compared to others.As all team having foreign coach they can add outside experience what they are looking for.If foreign captain not plays well as we can see in case of ricky ,sangakara recently and Daniel vettori in last year for RCB .then it creates heavy pressures on teams and it is very difficult to replace them.if you have Indian player as captain you can rotate foreign players according to the need and condition of pitches as we can see in case of CSK the hardest team to defeat ever since the inception of IPL as they have got constant core of domestic players around which Foreign players rotates.Indian players as captain gives the another added benefit that they are available for whole season unlike foreign players.

April 14, 2013, 13:36 GMT

By  

It's totally irrational to me to set a catalyst that captain of an IPL team must be Indian. Irrespective of nationality, captain must be chosen by their leadership quality , true sportsmanship, responsibility taking mind. A player whose captaincy isn't proven shouldn't be considered in such a big international tournament no matter he is a foreigner or not.

April 14, 2013, 13:14 GMT

By Muzila

Foreign players being captains doesn't help any bit.. IPL is supposed to be a tournament to bring out good young Indian talent and foreign players being captain ain't helping.. With Gilchrist leading Punjab no good domestic player has come through and Hyderabad with Sanga have the worst domestic talent to offer in the IPL.. on the other hand players like Rahane, Jadeja have really benefited with good Indian captains leading their sides...

April 14, 2013, 11:01 GMT

By tigers_eye

Yes, ofcourse!!! Unless you pick Malinga, Gayle as a captain. Those are sure to play every game regardless of form.

April 14, 2013, 7:17 GMT

By Sethali

i prefer having 5 foreign players in a team which wil give them more variety..as often we c a gud player havin to sit out. eg: Daniel Vettori for RCB. Plus, i dont thnk any player really dnt perform due to captaincy pressure( Yuvi for PWI). When he captained for Pune in their first IPL Scene, he had scored more no. of runs and taken quite a lot of wickets. Overall, it is a debate which would swing both ways as 1st two edition winners were captained by foreign players(Shane Warne and Gilly resprectively)

April 14, 2013, 5:29 GMT

By jimbond

I think foreign players should be made captains only if they are certainties to play in all the matches. Gilchrist is practically the only WK in the team so he will play every game and he is a good captain, but as a player he has gone down. Sangakkara is not a good enough player in 2020 to be in in each match, and same is true for Ponting. Mahela does become a permanent fixture of the DD side especially with KP out and with Sehwag injured. Mathews definitely is out of form. Also, captaincy is important but overrated. Senior players of international stature can perform the mentoring role even if they are not captains. Is it so difficult for someone like Uthappa, or Amit Mishra or Irfan Pathan, or Badrinath or Rayudu or Unmukt Chand to captain a 2020 team? Even while seleccting the squads, the franchisees can bid for Indian players who can captain the team.

April 14, 2013, 1:24 GMT

By  

example is rite there in the form Mathews in PUNE...... he takes wrong decsions and also fails to utilize his resources properly.... more ever he under performs..... tht leads to downfall of PUNE though it has a strong team..... i strongly recommend Captaincy must be given to YUVI.........

April 13, 2013, 20:49 GMT

By  

Yes, PWI might well leave off Angelo mathews for steven smith , a better batsman , brilliant fielded , a spinner

April 13, 2013, 20:21 GMT

By  

YES From Day 1 I have been saying and this is simple logic but not franchise use their brain. Based on 4 players rule you get limited chance. If you have 10 good foreign player, now you can choose only four and out of that when you make captain to one of them you are getting selection only for three foreign player out of good 9 players. Just image if Pointing had not captain, after 4 failure team must think to select another foreign player in 11 but due to he is captain they will continue with him.

April 13, 2013, 16:58 GMT

By  

Yes, definitely. It restricts the team's options of overseas players. We are already seeing players like Ponting and Gilchrist, who are past their prime, denying spots to Maxwell and Pomersbach, who have been in terrific T20 form. Moreover, the pressure on the captain increases if he has a few poor games. He starts feeling he needs to justify his place in the side, and that's never a good situation for a team to be in. We saw what happened last year with Delhi when Jayawardene had to drop himself for the play off game for tactical reasons. The leadership had to be changed at a critical stage of the tournament and that may have cost Delhi the cup.

April 13, 2013, 16:19 GMT

By stormy16

I dont think giving a foreign player the captaincy is a problem assuming the role is given on the basis of leadership qualities of the player. The problem arises when the player doesnt perform and takes up a valuable position reserved for 4 foreign players. I think the best thing at that stage would be to pick the best 11 and chose a captain from the 11. Obviously with so many quality players around there will be a few capable leaders in the 11.

April 13, 2013, 12:52 GMT

By ChanaL

If its a deserving player then it shouldn't be a problem. Cause they wil know how to balance both even through tough times. IMO the only misfit captain is Angelo Mathews. He is not proven and he is currently struggling leading the pune team and he barely deserves a spot in the Sri lankan team as a player. He is highly overrated.

April 13, 2013, 12:35 GMT

By  

It's T20, if senior indian players are not ready to take up the job then give it to young guns.. Kohli is doing amazing for RCB.. Rayadu or Rohit can lead MI, Uthappa can lead PWI, Pathan can lead DD.. leadership is something which will develop slowly.. they will learn from their mistakes and will be ready to lead the country when time comes. Also it provides the flexibility of choosing 4 foreign players from the large pool.. Due to foreign players leading the team, players like Steven Smith, Luke wright are not getting the game and mind u these are amazing T20 players and millions were spent to buy them for the season.

April 13, 2013, 12:29 GMT

By  

well handing captaincy to foreign players is not a bad decision if they are giving you wins but also they have to perform teams with foreign skipper has been good and also bad like mi even ponting doesnot perform he brings the fighting spirit in team which they lacked till now in sachin and bhajji in case of pwi here matthews need to score to make his team win and in srh till sanga scores big the pressure on other batsman will not get away in dd mahela has to come forward take openers role and make his team to win and in kxip gilly is leading them good till now but he has to teach them not to throw their wickets easily

April 13, 2013, 12:24 GMT

By ParamIyer

It depends a lot on the structure of a team. A team like Mumbai could benefit from a misfiring captain Ponting (till now). Also, Angelo Mathews probably is not a selection himself for all matches but he is now due to fact that he is the captain.

April 13, 2013, 12:21 GMT

By Mittkap

It certainly is unless team management have guts to omit them from squad based on captain's performance. Take example of Ponting. He don't deserves a place in Mumbai team.

April 13, 2013, 11:22 GMT

By  

More than a iability its against the whole spirit of IPL INDIAN Premier league is an INDIAN domestic league Also what makes people interested in an IPL team is the captain being a flavour of the state/region which the team belongs to According to me, foreign captain is a strict no-no

April 13, 2013, 10:13 GMT

By MALLUY

i would say yes.How can they announce captain when he is not better than players sitting on bench.for example players like Maxwell, Dwayne Smith are far better than Ponting in T20 format at this point.And in Delhi team Jayawardane has to bat deep in the lineup or they have to go with onother player who can play at no 6 or 7.same thing happen last year for teams like RCB and DC.

April 13, 2013, 10:05 GMT

By Cricketfan11111

You might think foreign captains may not know much about the uncapped Indian players and that can be a disadvantage. But how many Indian captains know their players well. Sometimes they can't even remember their names. In that sense foreign captains are not much of a liability. Other thing is, does india have 9 good captains. NO. So foreign captains are necessary. Few problems though. 1) If foreign captain is not in form. 2) for horses for courses policy, when you need different combination of foreign players and the captain is out of the reckoning. In these scenarios you need a new captain and that might upset the team dynamics. On the other hand, Indian captains are sure to retain their place in the playing XI.

April 13, 2013, 9:06 GMT

By ajeet15

I would say YES because they are not fully aware of the strengths & weakness of most of the players who are bougth and end up their season of IPL by sitting on the bench & go strictly UNNOTICED by Indian viewers. So the basic idea of IPL to groom youngsters by giving them an opportunity to play parallel with world class players has failed.

Had it been an Indian leading the team who has played domestic cricket with others would know the plus and minus of the unknown players and can utilise them as and when the need arises.

April 13, 2013, 9:05 GMT

By MeeraKrishna

I laughed to my hearts' content when people say that all IPL teams cant have Indian captains..People are ignorant to the fact that there are 25+ Ranji teams and each has a captain and they are Indian..Coming to the point of discussion a players selection has to be made purely on form which would win you matches...whether Indian or foreign player, an underperforming captain is always an liability...

April 13, 2013, 9:05 GMT

By  

I think they are. When it is the Indian Premier League, the teams should have Indian captains only; purely for the fact that after all foreign players are for rotation and they should not take their place for granted. A defined position in the team will pronounce more proper usage of these utility foreign players.Such tournaments should be used to cultivate the leadership qualities in potential players so that this quick thinking game cultivates in them that mentality and it can be used in the long run by the BCCI. They alwaz have a senior foreign or indian player around them for that matter where they can ask for advices as and when required. So in my opinion "NO' to foreign captains and "YES" to indian captains. say it experimentation or preparation for a larger stage, such tournaments stand good for local talent to stand up and be counted among the seniors.

April 13, 2013, 8:14 GMT

By ramli

Foreign players may not be familiar with domestic Indian players, conditions, communication,etc ... hence may tend to rely more on foreign players for strategy and in general under-utilize Indian players ... also, blending with the culture and showing greater involvement with increased responsibility of leadership may be difficult ... foreign players are best suited when they are assigned minimum but particular roles in batting or bowling in a team ... in a country that has so many states and teams ... it should not be difficult to find Indian captains for 9 teams

April 13, 2013, 7:45 GMT

By piyush_Daredevils

In IPL, foreign captain becomes a liability. If a captain is out of form, he cannnot be dropped to just try a different combination .eg. Ponting seems to be out of form , so an ideal thing would be to try out glean maxwell/philp hughes in place of ponting but in the current situation , he cant let these players play given the best possible combination of MI.Last Year when Vettori was the captain of RCB , it was difficult to play Murali in the XI because u cant drop the captain or play 2 spinners in the same XI that too foreigners . So the best bet would have been to play either murali or vettori as just seen in this years IPL . Also IPL is an Indian Domestic League , So a Indian Player if made the captain can be tried and groomed for the future . Also in a difficult match situation, foreign players are there to help him out.

April 13, 2013, 7:42 GMT

By saijayanth89

A foreign captain is opted over the likes of at least 7 Indians with an intent of utilizing his expertise and ability for the good of the team. But then a captain needs to be an asset to the team and not a liability. Teams invest in overseas players, let alone captains, in order to bank on their international experiences and exceptional abilities. We have seen teams filling up vacant spots in their local quotas but no team wants to gamble with the 4 slots available for overseas players. Moreover, this IPL has been more intense and teams are almost equals with no opposition to be taken for granted. Under such grounds, an under performing overseas captain is definitely a 'NO-NO'. Can cite the example of the legendary Ricky Ponting for MI. He is definitely struggling and his peers' achievements for his team is simply masquerading his failures with the bat. And once they undergo a losing streak and they sit to assess and analyse themselves, they should be bound to take a stance on him.

April 13, 2013, 4:14 GMT

By cricketer11111

if a captin is out of form they should be dropped but if that player is the captin they cant drop him and let a new overseas player play

April 13, 2013, 4:00 GMT

By  

Actually, it doesnt whether the captain is foreign or not unless he keeps performing well for is team...if he is a foreigner,he cannot maintain his place in the team only for a reason that hes a captain....ITS PERFORMANCE OF THE PLAYER THAT MATTERS

April 13, 2013, 3:59 GMT

By  

The captains of all franchises are from India (4) , Srilanka (3) and Australia(2) . With a lot of local talents in many teams , language is a barrier and communication is unlikely to be effective . This could essentially be the difference between the top teams ( mostly captained by Indians ) and the also rans. It is not that there are no captaincy materials among Indians but just that the franchises clamour for foreign names. Without a doubt , Overseaas captains cannot be effective unless they happen to be Ponting or Gilchrist.

April 13, 2013, 3:37 GMT

By  

Yes ,its a big liability not in terms of being an automatic selection but also a foreign captain would tale a considerable amt of time to bond and jel with the local Indian players.Since this tournament is seen as a launch pad of some Fine Indian talent,the captain should be from India as he would have seen and performed and also known the local grounds quality,coaching staff,ways of playing..

April 13, 2013, 3:36 GMT

By  

Not just foreign captains, any captain is a liability if he doesn't merit a place in the side. This was exactly the 'noise' everyone was making about MSD in tests before the recent Aus series. Foreign or Indian, teams must pick a captain who is good to play every game in the tournament. Changing captains mid-tournament would definitely hurt morale.

April 13, 2013, 2:29 GMT

By SG_Styles

Yes. They are. Only 4 Overseas players can be included in the team. So, those four should be the best available in terms of current form. Making an overseas a captain may waste one spot, if he is not in form. Ponting, Matthews are the best ex of this. Also, it is not always guaranteed for them to have a good knowledge of the pitches in India. Language barrier can also be a thing of concern. So, I think for all these reasons, an Indian Captain should be a right choice. Foreign players, with their i'ntnl experience then can help their indian colleague in other aspects.

April 13, 2013, 0:34 GMT

By  

Considering the restriction on foreign players..the team should have 4 best performing players rather than 1 foreign captain + 3 other foreign player. If the player is performing well he can still give his input to the team,they dont have to be captain for that.The live example is the situation of MI..where they have better players like Maxwell,Smith waiting in the dug out but they are bound to go with Ponting just because he is Captain.

April 12, 2013, 23:35 GMT

By sajjodaalman

Yes it is. Otherwise the captain will be the same and u can only rotate 3 foreign players

April 12, 2013, 23:30 GMT

By zaksy

Not at all but the captain should fit in the XI like mahela for DD but ponting ,sanga and methews could easily be replace by pollard, steyn and yuvraj resp. who fits to play all matches in the league But its bitter truth that some foriegns captain not deserve to be in XI but they are playing because they are captain

April 12, 2013, 22:27 GMT

By  

Yes, for sure. It is a game where you can built a think tank, which may control the strategy, but for toss, send any Indian in, so that if required, he can be dispensable.

April 12, 2013, 21:36 GMT

By Nampally

Foreign IPL team Captains are at a disadvantage with culture, language & playing conditions. However Captains like Warne & Gilchrist rode above all with some great leadership aided by their own brilliant showing. It clearly shows if the guy has the right qualities he can overcome any barriers & get the best out of their Team. Sanga is a shinning example this year leading an average Hyderabad side into the leaders thru' outstanding team effort. There are also teams like DD who are faring poorly under Mahela. I personally prefer to see more Indians leading the teams than current 50-50 split. Tiwary should be Captaining a team since he is already captain of Kolkatta in Ranji. IPL should also provide a platform for grooming Indian players to get leadership experience. D.Kartick & Uthappa have been playing long enough to lead.

April 12, 2013, 19:43 GMT

By ROXSPORT

Most of the times, foreign captains have no idea of the pitch conditions as also the local players. An Indian captain, at least, knows the local boys & more often than not, has a fair idea of the pitch & weather conditions. So, it makes sense to have an Indian in charge of the team. Not to mention the language barrier that is created by having a foreign captain, especially with the younger players. The younger players also are in awe of the big names & would hesitate to approach them. An Indian, on the other hand, will be seen as an elder brother & there will be no misgivings. Point made.

April 12, 2013, 18:31 GMT

By HABSHI

ponting and sanga are example of this, indian captain is right for team so 4 overseas can select easily on performance

April 12, 2013, 18:30 GMT

By SudiptaS

There should never be a foreign captain regardless of his performances and skills. It is difficult to interact for the domestic non-international players with a foreign captain. Talking of knowledge and insights, a player can always advice the captain regarding the same. Does sachin not provide advice if he is not the captain? For example, Mumbai could have Karthik as captain if Sachin doesn't want to lead. Pune could always choose Uthappa. Other 3 like DD,KXI and SRH would find it hard, but still DD can ask Pathan to lead if Viru is unwilling and SRH can go for Parthiv. But KXI would find it hard to find one and should go for broke in the next auction to get a good non-mercurial Indian player next year.

April 12, 2013, 18:11 GMT

By SyedAreYouDumb

Also the captains could be bias towards their countrymen regardless of how good he is...

April 12, 2013, 17:39 GMT

By  

Cpatain should be osmebody who iis automatica selection t20 like dhoni mahela,ponting they are good players but tests and odi T-20 is not their game

April 12, 2013, 16:28 GMT

By  

Yes When It Comes to Players Like Ponting,Mahela If they Fails While Batting,Then He Is Done For the Game,Angleo atleast could still contribute with the Ball and Gilly is an Useful Keeper.

April 12, 2013, 16:22 GMT

By  

You can select between various entities and proper team can be selected. Liabilities are some time good but they have risk of failure more than success. I feel lot of Lankan players were made captain in IPL but non of them clicked till date. I believe a youth should be made captain so that can understand the game 360. Virat is good example where RCB can select proper players for alloted slots. But in the end best team wins on the fiwld and not on the paper.

April 12, 2013, 16:01 GMT

By  

it really is a weird debate, a captain is selected on the bases of his personal performance and through his leadership qualities not by weather he is a foreigner or a local if a foreigner is playing well and leading his team well then why not, he should be the caption

April 12, 2013, 15:49 GMT

By  

Yes most definitely. Looking and comparing hitherto performances of foreign captains,my humble opinion is that none deserve even a place in the team. Given that IPL is a platform to develop Indian skills when do we give chance to existing leadership skills? Hope we learn from the experience.

April 12, 2013, 15:43 GMT

By psselvan

Firstly one should be an individual contributor, if that is good enough from team perspective, he can continue as captain - else fall injured like Vettori as in 2012 IPL

April 12, 2013, 14:57 GMT

By  

YES, players like mathews, mahela, fillintheir slots which cannot be replaced by other overseas players. mean while all the captains in bigbash league are Australians. ranji team captains can be provided captaincy for respective teams.

April 12, 2013, 14:29 GMT

By Vivek.Bhandari

In a single word, Yes. The foreign players shouldn't be made captain as the quota for them is four in a playing 11. Also, the captain should be well respected and have well proven credentials to have earned his place in the team. For example, if he is Gilchrist or J'wardene then you need to have them as captain. Period. However, if the captain is Angelo Mathews then you would have to think twice about naming your eleven.

I remember last year Sangakkara opted himself out of the team in the best interests of the team. But you don't expect everybody to do that.

April 12, 2013, 14:19 GMT

By  

YES. THEY ARE A BIG LIABILITY when you have non performing guys like Pointing, Angelo , Sanga & Jaya. You cant even remove them for a game as they are captains. Leaders should lead from the front.

April 12, 2013, 13:51 GMT

By  

People like Angelo Mathews have given such a poor account of themselves even as a player,let alone captain

April 12, 2013, 13:44 GMT

By  

Yes, i would say there will more loyalty if an Indian is the Captain

April 12, 2013, 13:13 GMT

By imsaiarasan23

There are exceptional t20 players like Shane warne, Chris Gayle, malinga.. They ll be in first 11 irrespective of anything... There is no liability there if they r made captains...

Others like pointing, gilly, sanga, vettori if appointed reduce the leverage of the team to improve or change by 25 percent..

Even if he is gracious enough to step aside for a game to accommodate another person it is just a temp soln and he won't be able to command same respect again... A non playing captain is called coach..

April 12, 2013, 13:13 GMT

By DON_786

Agreed look at POINTING/SANGA/JAYWARDENE etc,

April 12, 2013, 13:13 GMT

By  

Angelo Matthews and Ricky Ponting are proving to be liabilities. Mahela has always been overrated as a captain. Sanga is useless unless he keeps wickets. Gilly is the only one who deserves to be in the side, given the fact he is the keeper and opener, therefore he frees up one spot down the order.

April 12, 2013, 13:07 GMT

By  

Well, Angelo and Mahela aren't much successful until now, specially Angelo who hasn't shown great batting form for Pune as well as Srilanka. His captaincy has been uninspiring. Selecting someone as a captain because he has captained some national side is surely a wrong decision. The player may become a liability, so I will go with Yes.

April 12, 2013, 13:01 GMT

By  

Yes foreign captains who dont perform are indeed a liability.... Thats mainly because you can have only 4 foreigners in your side and you dont like to have one just because he is your captain... Having an Indian captain increases the flexibility of your side.. You can pick your foreigners based on the pitches and other conditions... The best example is Punter, who is no longer good with the bat.. It is just because of his captaincy that he is there in the 11... Most teams wouldnt prefer doing that...

April 12, 2013, 12:59 GMT

By Krisshhnna

Yes.It is IPL.So Captains Should be Indians.Not Austrailians or Sri Lankans

April 12, 2013, 12:54 GMT

By  

It not only hurting peoples sentiments but also loss because best four foreign players cannot be selected according to their form and playing conditions and team requirements

April 17, 2013, 11:46 GMT

By  

I think you always pick your best Captain, no matter where they come from, or who they are. Remember `Mike Brearly`, Captain of England, in the late 1970`s, First grade player at best, but a brilliant Captain. I saw one moment during the IPL, that showed me, a truely great Captain, can bring a team together. Ponting`s awesome catch off Bhaji`s bowling, then Bhaji raced over, and hugged Ponting, like they had played together forever. The emotion, and respect they showed each other was amazing, remember these 2 players, battled fiercely against each other in Test matches, between Oz & India. That moment showed me that Bhaji, not only respects Ponting, but is loving Punter as his Captain. Punter is past his prime with the Bat, but is still a fantastic Captain, who enjoys coaching the younger players, and this can only be a good thing, for the young Mumbai Indian, players. Don`t worry, he will come good with the Bat, and so will Sachin, Mumbai could not be in better hands. Go Punter :)

April 13, 2013, 15:00 GMT

By JKT222

There have been some super foriegn captains in the IPL, be it shane warne, adam gilchrist or in this season ricky ponting and sangkarra. This season especially the combination of ponting, kumble and wright seems unbeatable. The team combination differrent in each match and the bowling changes by ponting both show a superb thought process.

On the other hand Angelo Mathews seems a bad choice for captainship. While he would still find a place in the team, he does not seem good enough to lead. The bowling changes have left a lot to be desired and he hasn't been able to instil a sense of responsibility or coherent strategy in their batting which implodes in all matches

April 12, 2013, 18:34 GMT

By IPL Marines

We have 9 teams. In future we may have even more teams. It will never be feasible that the captain in and every team will be an Indian. As a country, how can India create so many captains all of a sudden? Plus it is unfair not to have a foreign player as captain if he is a good captain and performs well as well. I don't agree that having a foreign player as captain means you lose out on a place out of the precious 4. First of all, mostly high class foreign players are part of IPL (apart from few unknown foreign players, who generally get sidelined due to non-performance pretty soon, like Daniel Christian, etc). How can you even term someone like Ponting, Sanga, mathhews, etc as non-performers. If no ponting, does Mumbai really has a foreign batsman of similar caliber waiting in the wings? So foreign captain is a good thing for me,

April 12, 2013, 18:21 GMT

By KingOwl

Captains can make a difference at times, though not as often as the media likes us to believe. Still a good captain is absolutely crucial for success. So, it does make sense to go for the best captains, be they Indian or foreign. People like Mahela, Sanga, Ponting are excellent international captains with proven records. So, why not utilize their captaincy skills? Angelo Mathews is new and so that is more questionable. But it probably went to him by default. I think in a way it makes sense to have quite a few Sri Lankans - they understand Asian culture, but they are also outsiders in India. Thus, both Indians and those from other countries can identify with them. Strategically, I think it makes perfect sense.

April 12, 2013, 13:16 GMT

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The first two editions of the IPL were won by teams captained by foreign captains. 40% is a great success ratio given the fact that only two or three teams previosuly had foreign captains.

April 20, 2013, 18:13 GMT

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Nope. Foreigner as IPL skipper is a disadvantage to young Indian talent. Matthews, Sangakkara and Ponting in one way not allowing Indian young batsmen to enter in Playing XI, just because they have the leadership skills. Young Indians should be given captaincy for making great future prospects. I respect the techniques used by foreign skippers like how Warne and GIichrist used in IPL-1 and IPL-2, respectively. But Dhoni and Gambhir has showed us in last two seasons. IPL is made for finding out new talents of young Indians. So in next season, hope so we will have all Indian skippers. All the best.

April 18, 2013, 12:47 GMT

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Nope! Foreginers Is not a reliable captain for an IPL franchise. This is mainly due to the reason, there is only four foreigners present in the squad in the quota of foreigners, and if they hit bad form , the team will have to be stuck in a difficult situation to drop their captain.

April 15, 2013, 13:31 GMT

By youvcan

Foreign captains are only worth if they too can contribute their respective role other than captaincy,in tourni like only 4 foreign players are allowed we can't depend on foreign player captain, because we have lot other options on bench, clear reason why pune can't win matches with such a big squad is Mathews as a captain..so they cant afford players like luke and steve to be part of their team, same with MI and SRH,for MI at present they are winning side,but Pointing only used as a captain instead they can have Millionaire baby Maxwell or Smith..At last I can say one thing, if you are having foreigner as a captain...its like playing with only three Foreign players option

April 15, 2013, 6:40 GMT

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No, I has to say no because, not just foreign captains, any under-performing captains are liability. Last year we saw the situation with Mumbai, when Harbhajan was running in his worst for of his career and Ojha had to be left out for him who was in good form . This season the debate came because of below par performers of Gily , Sanga , Mathews , Ponting , Jayal. To say except Mathews , all others have good reputation and experience for captaining their country side ( Gilly being Vice Captain ). This happens even if Dhoni or Kohli was not performing. You cant bench the captain. Happened with India when Ganguly lost form and took more than 1 year to drop him of captaincy due to his earlier success. Its just a coincidence , all foreign captains are out of touch. I believe to captain a side you need experience and since Indian players are too young to take this reponsibility you need foreign players to do that. Season has just begun, we need to wait and see if captains itself get dropped

April 15, 2013, 4:48 GMT

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Foreign captains are not a liability.Not many captains would have made DK bat at 3 or giving Rishi Dhawan a shot at playing against other teams.Punter cannot bat nicely to score a 50 but he has led them to the top of the table[Mumbai Indians].

April 14, 2013, 14:01 GMT

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I tend to agree with some aspects regarding the disadvantages of having a foreign captain...If performance is the only criterion, then undoubtedly, many of them are liabilities, like in the case of Mumbai this season, Dan Vettori last season, Gilchrist at times... However if captaincy is given its due, then we need to agree that foreign captains are required in some cases.. A small error in judgement by the inexperienced Kohli saw Morkel smoke 28 runs of one over and it cost RCB the match.. In Indian conditions, you need a calm and mature head at the helm; preferably a former captain of an international side..If that player had a pretty decent season, say 350 runs with the bat, I won't be complaining if he has made the right decisions as a captain at crucial junctures...

April 14, 2013, 11:24 GMT

By ramonster

For teams with few experienced international Indians like kxip and Hyderabad, having an experienced captain like Gilly and Sanga is a must. With their strong leadership, they can help there relatively weak gems punch hard above their weight. They also give confidence tot heiress experienced but talented Indian players. Can Kohli or Gambir say the same, I think not. Look at RBC, it's only the experienced guys, and especially batsman who are doing well. But also, these legendary captains like Gilly and Sanga never give up and push their all the time. These qualities are vital in a captain whose team lacks both experience and quality. Captains do make a big difference, something that's seen by Mumbai Indians lack of trophies. CSK are the only team with a quality team and a quality captain, and it shows with their silverwear!

April 14, 2013, 6:57 GMT

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I feel having a foreign captain in the side is good as it adds a different dimension to the team.I was reading through some of the other comments and i have to agree that there aren't 9 players of captaincy quality in india,so its best given to players with proven international success as captain.Sanga and mahela are automatic choices for captaincy and have been leading there sides well(DD have been hampered by injuries) but i feel ponting on the other hand should not be the captain as he is in poor form and MI can ill afford to give on of there foreign slots to him as he does not automatically pick himself in a t20 game,Pune first choice captain is yuvraj but since he has decided he does not want the captaincy the only other choice is Mathews.Mind you most of the teams barring Kings eleven have a superb outfit mixed with good inidan and international stars,so it will be a very close IPL this year! I hope The sri lankan Captains do well and perform for there team.Go Lanka!

April 14, 2013, 6:31 GMT

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I dont think they are a liability if they have the experience and provide a level of comfort for others in the side. If you look at Gilli, Ponting, Sanga, Jaya and compare them to the Dravid Dhoni and Gambhir you will see the similarities, they all have been in the game for a long time and have so much to share and also know how to communicate with the others. Warne and Gilchrist are best examples they both won the IPL captaining the sides. If you are a natural leader or have the desire to lead like the young Kohli has, then it doesnt matter if you are foreign. Matthews is a good all rounder to have in the team but as a captain he falls short because he cant energize the the team. They all look like they dont care, he probably lacks the confidence to lead and that has spread among the team. Ponting is such a good example, with almost no IPL experience and being out of form he can still influence the game with his energy and desire to win and the team reflects that same attitude

April 14, 2013, 5:53 GMT

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First of all this is IPl not a big bash every franchise must have a indian captain because in future the players have to play under a indian captaiin and playing under some foriegner captaian doesn't help them at all

April 14, 2013, 5:03 GMT

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only four Indian players in the whole tournament are capable of being captains and rightly so they are the captains of their teams RCB, RR, KKR and CSK. looking at other international players captaining, lets start with MI and Ponting. he hasnt been productive but he has the winning formula, very intelligent with bowling choices and the most important thing he has is his teams respect and confidence in his decision making thus he stays. Next is Adam Gilchrist, the best keeper to ever play for any team.. he hasnt been firing either but he has been out of cricket for a while he is gonna pick up too and now since he is not coaching its much better. Mahela for DD def a good captain and also has been playing well. Same goes for Saga and the sunrisers who are gonna be the surprise team of the year. The only one left is Angelo Matthews and the Pune, give em time.So the right Q to ask is IS IT ABOUT TIME THEY CHANGE THE RULE TO 5 INTERNATIONAL PLAYERS ALLOWED?????

April 14, 2013, 3:33 GMT

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I think both arguments are valid, but the truth is India does not have 9 captain figures at the moments. (Hopefully never) Its hard for any nation to provide so. 4 to 5 foreign captain ratio seems good. Maththiews is not a good leader. He is Sri Lankan captain because Sanga and mahela Resigned. No other candidate in Sri Lanka. PWI also in same category. Since Yuvi Raj refused to be captain, (he needed to play without pressure) only viable choice was Matthews. If Mahela, Ponting, Sanga do not perform well in this season they shud dropped in next season BUT IPL is nothing without International legends. No one will watch it filled only with indians. Perform or not legends shud be there. Don't forget there are other 3 foreign players to perform. Reserving 1 to be a captain is not the only problem.

April 14, 2013, 3:24 GMT

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foreign captains r waste

April 13, 2013, 20:57 GMT

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I wouldn't think so, no. They might not perform well, but they do have the experience in leadership, and that matters a lot. Having said that, however, I do hope that the BCCI considers increasing the limit to 5 foreign players in the playing XI. 4 seems a little too less, and I think 5 would be the perfect number, as there are so many good players who don't seem to be getting chances.

April 13, 2013, 14:26 GMT

By Rohit_06

I believe the players must be first choosen based on performance and then one amongst them should be made the captain.... This ensures that we have the best eleven playing.... The four foreign cap creates problems when the non performing foreign captain is in the side at the cost of other deserving foreign player... Angelo mathews is in the team at the expense of steve smith and marlon samuels....

April 13, 2013, 14:26 GMT

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Nope...new leadership, skill set, different strategies makes a competition interesting.

April 13, 2013, 14:14 GMT

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I think the basic funda must be around selcecting utility national players.Then only it will contribute to nation's cause.The captaincy should be given to a good captaincy material,be it warne or Dhoni.Also the must be picked or dropped purely on the basis of performance.So ultimately it should be picking the 11,give Indian players more chance and a useful mentor/captain.

April 13, 2013, 11:04 GMT

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I would say NO from the very statistics point of view. Shane Warne and Adam Gilchrist showed it in the first two editions of IPL, that how much the world and thier respective nations missed the captains in them......Such big performing players, leading from the front definitely gives an insight to the fellow Indian younsters about captaincy,motivations and performance levels.......I think Shane Warne and Gilchrist gave their clubs, what they had reserved for Aus, and isnt it good?

April 13, 2013, 10:32 GMT

By johnal

i dont think its a problem having a foreign captain.all of them are respected international players .so far we have not had any problems with the players from india and the foreign captains .also the indians have a chance to see how other captains operate and use different ways in getting a team to perform at their best

April 13, 2013, 9:35 GMT

By omprakash885

No, Foreign players are made captain when an Indian player refuse to be captain like Dare devils or if there is no obvious choice for the job like Kings XI. If only Indian has to be captain, then please tell who should be be the captain for Kings XI Punjab. There is no one. Also, as far as liability is concerned due to non performance, the same can happen to an Indian also. And perfect example is Harbhajan Singh for Mumbai Indians, last year. Also, you can say Saurav Ganguly for Pune warriors. As soon as it confirmed that Pune warriours can't go to semi final, they trow him out. But before that they have to stuck with him

April 13, 2013, 9:34 GMT

By R_U_4_REAL_NICK

I seem to recall one Dan Vettori dropping himself despite being captain one year for one of the teams. Captaincy does not mean automatic selection, and foreign captains are much more likely to sit out if they aren't performing.

April 13, 2013, 7:17 GMT

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Depends if the foreign captain can hold his place. We have seen Sangakarra and Vettori drop themselves in past seasons for the betterment of the team. Angelo should show maturity and drop himself from the team. Finch, Stevie, Ross and Marsh are all better suited in this Pune team. Angelo can remain in a leadership role with Steven Smith. Then play whoever performs. Angelo clearly isn't in the best 4 at the moment and neither does he possess the captaincy credentials like a Ponting or Clarke to compensate for a lack of playing contribution.

April 13, 2013, 5:41 GMT

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Foreign captain or Indian captain, the player should justify his selection with performances. For Example, Gilly captained the Deccan chargers in the 2nd edition and powered them from the bottom to the top. No one can call him a burden. Its performance and the value addition the player brings as a captain that matters.

April 13, 2013, 5:04 GMT

By Tal_Botvinnik

Being a captain means their is added presure for you to perform, putting similiar presure on domestic state captains would make them poor performers, but international captains are picked because they are known for their skills internationally.

April 13, 2013, 4:48 GMT

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The foreign players as Captain for IPL teams is no taboo. In fact , it helps them to get a better leader to lead and win the title. We have seen invaluable contribution of Sharne Warne for Rajasthan Royals, who the inagural title of the IPL in2008 and followed by Adam Gilchrist's team triumph for the title in 2009 in SA. Both the games were high octane drama and won by a whisker. Both Gilly & Warne led from the front and tasted success.It is paramount important for these shorter version matches as you have to hold your nerve to clinch the title. Warne and Gilly have shown their acumen and got better results from their team players. In 2008 Asnodkar for batting and S.Tanvir in bowling (infact S.Tanvil was the leading bowler in 2008) have shone very well because of the encouragement given by S.Warne. Equally Gilly also found Rohit & Afridi and Symonds & brought out their best. Now, this year's edition we have 3 Srilankans & 2 Australians.Wait for results.

April 13, 2013, 4:45 GMT

By .GaMeOvEr.

any captain is a liability. be it indian or foreign..when ganguly was underperforming it took tym for him to be taken out of team bcoz he was a winning captain..same goes to teams in IPL. but whether he is indian or foreigner it doesnt matter .i wont agree that only a foreign captain becomes a liability. one doesnt become a captain just because his management asked him to. a captain earns it through his leadership skills and talent. that is the reason why captaincy isnt given to every random player. and talking about sanga , ponting etc they are world class players . language, culture ,pitches arent much a barrier for a good captain. There are many indian senior players in every team .so no foreign captain would take decisions on his own for example sachin helps ponting . and if the respective team managements feel that there are worthy players able to lead their teams then they would surely give them chance if the current captain is underperforming

April 13, 2013, 3:37 GMT

By Paulk

I am all for foreign captains if they are qualified. However, at the same time I think 3-4 people senior people (non-Indian and Indian) should be identified who could take over the captaincy role in any given match if the incumbent's batting or bowling performance is not up to par. No place in the XI should be taken up by a non-performing captain, and this is especially critical in the case of non-Indian captains because of the 4 player cap.

April 13, 2013, 0:40 GMT

By KingOwl

I think the bottom line is this. Why are there so many Sri Lankan captains? Because they ARE the number 1 ranked T20 nation. For a tiny nation, it's a fantastic achievement. They have achieve that not just through talent, but due to other skills including discipline, team work, etc. So, one should not be surprised. I know Angelo has not proven himself in a leadership position yet. But, one should not underestimate him.

April 12, 2013, 20:39 GMT

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No foreign captain because this is IPL not FPL

April 12, 2013, 20:08 GMT

By Batmanian

The IPL is the world's top T20 tournament, not India's. It doesn't help, and arguably hinders, player development for Test cricket (although the money is too useful to sniff at). Therefore, nationally-bounded restrictions seem small-minded and false. Who cares who the captain is? Some teams will prefer the approachability and Hindi (/local language) and the marketing value of a hometown favourite, others an international star. I would be more inclined to have a minimum three or four Indians in every 11, a la the big football leagues. Keep it as global as possible.

April 12, 2013, 16:23 GMT

By jevans90

I don't see Ponting, Mahela, Sanga, or Gilchrist as being any more of a liability than Dravid - all with glittering international careers, and obvious captains if selected, but being a bit of a risk as the reflexes slip and, in some cases, playing a format they're not naturally suited to (arguably only Gilchrist is a natural in shorter forms - the others tended to excel in tests and play an anchor role in ODIs). All of them might be replaceable with better T20 batsmen, but there's a place for that experience. Teams should pick the XI, then the best captain in that XI, regardless of nationality. All of the above clearly are viewed as first choice, and given that are the natural captains in their sides. They only become a liability if the selectors refuse to drop non-performing players due to captaincy, which is just as likely to happen to an Indian. I think RCB had it right last year: Vettori was the best leader, but when he no longer made the best team, Kohli (who did) took over.

April 12, 2013, 16:15 GMT

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As a Srilankan i think India should look onto their own captains for their teams, because in the end. People who come to watch these matches are indian people. But if India wants IPL to be a world spectacle like British football premier league, which transcends borders It should be given to great players Mahela , Sanga, and Ponting. I think IPL has that potential and why it is successfull. But i question why mathews was chosen as captain,he's a newcomer to captaincy role. May be they didn't have other captaincy materiel given that original option yuvraj refused. When you look at IPL and other socalled leagues, it's pretty evident others are farces.

April 12, 2013, 15:42 GMT

By rahulsa

Leaders are leaders and every player has different experiences. Indian captains bring less value because they have all batted or bowled on similar pitches. Whereas, a foreign captain would bring more zest, more knowledge because usually foreign players are only picked because of their knowledge. Virat Kohli is the captain for RCB. But he didn't display the role of a captain when he got into an argument with Gautam Gambhir after he got out. Contrastingly, a Ponting or a Sanga would never do something like that.

April 12, 2013, 14:21 GMT

By cricket-india

if one doesn't perform, one has to make way for a benchwarmer who has potential; this is true irrespective of whether the non-pereformer is a foreigner or indian, irrespective of whethr he is the captian or a regular player or a fringe player. so the foreign captain issue isn't an issue at all. sanga was captian last yr also for DC but dropped himself when he struggled for a few games. captains have dropped themselves for test macthes for not performing. so for an IPL team it doesn't matter whether the captain is an indian or a foreigner. he will be dropped (or has to drop himself) if he doesn't perform.

April 12, 2013, 14:08 GMT

By Lekamge

Foreign captains won't captain IPL side if they don't have the experience already. So , in reality they are not liabilities. They become assets because a franchise can form a good leadership core. But in the past we have seen lack of support for foreign captains. And I admit because of this awkward limit of 4 international players makes them a risk. But the fault is not with them, but the rule.

April 12, 2013, 13:57 GMT

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Some of these captains can show the real character of a cricketer should be. And our youngsters really need them. Just think about the incident that happened between Kohli and Gambir. Of course we have a captain cool. But there are lot of things that can be learnt from Ponting, Sanga, De villers etc..

April 12, 2013, 13:39 GMT

By drinks.break

It depends on both the captain and the team. Gilchrist is an inspiring person who has a track record of getting the best out of those who play under him. That makes him more valuable than his batting/keeping stats alone, especially in weaker teams. With a strong team like RCB, on the other hand, when Gayle's in form it really doesn't matter who your captain is - Kohli could be doing a dreadful job, for all we know. Finally, some of the so-called "liabilities" among the foreign captains are in teams with no other genuine option for a captain. Who would captain Mumbai if not Ponting? Harbhajan is at least as weak a link as a player as Ponting, so no gain there, and Sachin and captaincy have never gone together well. Or take Pune: apart from Angelo Mathews, who is there? When he was captain of KXI and Pune, Yuvi (aka Mr. Grumpy) proved himself totally unsuited to captaincy.

April 12, 2013, 13:36 GMT

By rahul.singh

You don't have a choice as there is not enough Indian leadership talent to lead 9 IPL teams

April 12, 2013, 13:31 GMT

By imsaiarasan23

No. Many teams like hyderabad, Pune, Delhi don't have Indian players who have leadership and captaincy skills or the players willing to do it.. Irfan Pathan and robin uthappa fall in the former category, sehwag and yuvi in the latter..

Considering the significance of the role of captain in a t20 game it is an asset, and not a liability, to have a good captain , even at the expense of a foreigner slot..

April 12, 2013, 13:25 GMT

By sillypoint6

no, not at all, it can even hold good for indian captain also and that in my opinion will be very insulting if he is dropped for non performing (indian captain). for eg. if tendulkar is the captain of mumbai indians and if he is not performing (as he is now as a player) can they drop him from the playing ix, i dont think so, but even if they drop him what mental affect and morale will team have, considering the younger indian players in the team you can imagine. and by the way captain is not made like that only, all the coaching staff and management sit together and decide, one thing more- foreign captain can be dropped more easily than the indian captain without having much affect on the team.

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