West Indies v Australia, 3rd Test, Roseau, 2nd day April 25, 2012

Radford shores up West Indies' battered confidence

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Toby Radford, the West Indies assistant coach, has denied that the confidence levels of the hosts' young batsmen are taking a battering ahead of a tour of England, in the wake of the top order struggling once again on day two in Dominica. Chief among several areas of concern for West Indies is 19-year-old opener Kraigg Brathwaite, who after starting the series with a fighting half-century in Barbados has since made three consecutive ducks.

Following Brathwaite's dismissal at Windsor Park, Adrian Barath and Kieran Powell formed the foundations of a useful stand, but once Barath went the rest fell away alarmingly, leaving Shivnarine Cahnderpaul to mount the best salvage operation he could against an Australia attack that has slowly gained a measure over their opponents across three Tests. Radford, however, argued that the series had been a difficult one for batsmen of both teams.

"I think it [this series] is difficult for both sides. I was happy with how we dealt with the new ball today. I thought Barath was good, I thought Powell was good," he said. "Having got a really good start against the new ball, suddenly spin did the damage. We've had other games where we've struggled against the new ball, we've talked a lot about it.

"How to play [Ben] Hilfenhaus, the fact he sets you up bowling away and then there's the big inswinger... We've looked at that, thought we played that really well today and then on comes an offspinner, lots of turn and bounce, and he does the damage. These are young guys, talented guys, who I think will have good careers and we've got to be patient with them. They're learning and they'll learn around people like Shiv at the other end. It's not suicide for us. You learn, you come back and are stronger. Hopefully we can go to England and then perform there."

As for Brathwaite, Radford said he and head coach Ottis Gibson would seek to remind the teenager of the character and ability he had shown in his first innings of the series. Brathwaite's ability to hang in there at the crease is a critical element of the batting line-up West Indies are seeking to build, as they sorely need batsmen capable of soaking up time and overs in the manner of the 37-year-old Chanderpaul.

"You chat with him [Brathwaite]. You talk with him. You practice with him whenever you can and you remind him how good a player he is," Radford said. "He played very well in Barbados in that first innings. Today he got out in a similar fashion to how he got out in the second innings in Barbados, just hanging the bat a little bit, but again you back him. He's a good player. He's a young player. Our job as coaches is to keep his confidence high and work on any little issues as they come along. You've got to back your young players."

Of greater concern to Radford is the way in which Australia's tail has repeatedly wagged. While the captain Darren Sammy had pointed to Michael Hussey as the major source of these rear-guards, in Dominica it was Matthew Wade shepherding the lower order, though Mitchell Starc and Ben Hilfenhaus also played a few handsome strokes of their own in building a final tally of 328.

"We've regularly got out top quality players. [Shane] Watson, [Ricky] Ponting, [Michael] Clarke. Hussey's been fantastic all the way through, didn't get any in this game, but they bat very deep," Radford said. "Guys come in at No. 9, 10 or 11 and can hold an end up. Last week it was Pattinson, today others take on that mantle. Starc played really well, he got 35 as a guy coming in lower down.

"I think if we can take anything away [from this match], it's important that we bat in the same way with the same brains, the same technique. We're always looking to develop, we're always looking to analyse and learn - that's always my message when we have bad days, that you come in tomorrow and say 'right, how we going to have a better one'. We must keep learning. I think we're a side who've done well over the last few weeks, we've fought well. This happens to be a bad day and we've got to come back with a better one tomorrow, simple as that."

Radford said the West Indies bowlers had been reminded of the importance of bowling at the tail in the same manner they had stalked Australia's top order, but admitted that fatigue after day one in the field under Roseau's sapping tropical sun may have been a factor in a flat display on the second morning.

"The message was we must bowl at those guys - Starc and Wade - as if they were Hussey and top order batters. We've got to bowl the same way. We can't think they're just going to fall over because we know Australians don't just fall over," he said. "Don't think because they're No. 9, 10 and 11 they're just going to give their wickets away, it just doesn't happen like that. I certainly think fatigue [played a part]. We had a long day in the field yesterday.

"Six hours in that heat, I think, took a bit out of the seamers and it's the physical toll [that affected them]. Someone like Kemar Roach, who has been absolutely magnificent and is a world class bowler, he's starting to get a bit fatigued. He's bowled all summer in this series and I think it was hard for him this morning to just dig that bit deeper again. You're expecting a lot [of a bowler], to do it day in and day out in these temperatures."

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on April 26, 2012, 21:03 GMT

    @sinhaya Lets see what happens. I have a vivid memory of India butchered by England in all the tests. Anyways like any other cricket romantic I would love to see WI giving a good fight. But I do not want WI to loose their flair. I want Russel in the team. He is one hell of a batting talent. N he is 200 times better than braithwaitte. If one can not bowl we cant call him a batsman.

  • on April 25, 2012, 19:49 GMT

    Yes, cricket is a game of glorious uncertainties, not miracles, we need a miracle. Our past performances don't tell me we can win nor even draw this one. However I'm hoping for a miracle. We still have few around.

  • Rally_Windies on April 25, 2012, 15:30 GMT

    how could they be low on confidence? some of them know that they could make 4 consecutive ducks and still play ahead of people who are scoring 10-20's ..

    when are certain of your place, and you are not bothered that you will be replaced if you perform poorly, you would be super confident every time you go out and bat...

    and you would confidently walk back to the pavilion every time you make duck ~!

  • Sinhaya on April 25, 2012, 12:29 GMT

    @Pallab Mukherjee, no way will Windies lose 3-0 in England. If Pakistan won a test match in England in 2010 home summer and if Sri Lanka last summer lost only 1-0, Windies will by no means lose 3-0. Windies will have the advantage of IPL players returning so they might even win surprise all with a win even! Remember many said Sri Lanka will lose 3-0 last summer in England but was all wrong!!

  • godfreyse on April 25, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    Stats info recently provided clearly provide reasons for cricket dilemma in the WI. Darren Bravo has a S/R of35+ at home & 50+ O/S. Shiv has a S/R of41+ at home & 41+ O/S. It shows that attacking players r finding it harder to score on WI pitches. The pitches offered in the WI r killing our cricket. WI players by nature r aggressive. The pitches r the reason for the low Regional scores. Attacking players can't make runs on these pitches. It is also the reason we can't get the lower order out. Why? They defend most of the time & they r handy with the bat. Hence 167-7; 328 -10. Shiv & Dravid will make runs they r risks free players. Clarke & Ponting will punish, they like to attack. Our boys may very well do better in ENG. Our pitches do not lend to our type of cricket, bottom line. What do u think.

  • on April 25, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    West Indies is suffering from lack of experience especially at the top of the batting, Gayle and Sarwan is needed badly, how long will W.I continue to destroy the confidence of these young batsman, who obviously is not ready for Int..Cricket...The bowling is decent, but the batting starts and ends with Chanderpaul...

  • godfreyse on April 25, 2012, 11:54 GMT

    Stats info provided clearly show reason for the cricket dilemma in the WI.

  • johntycodes on April 25, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    It's the same old story for the windies. They have some good individual performances during a test series and the fielding has been excellent but it's just that killer instinct which is why the west indies haven't won a test series for years. Also why the aussies are now back up near the top of the rankings because of the determination not to fail whereas west indies culture isn't like that. Also the third umpire seems to be a windies fan in this game. Somehow early on day 2 they had 3 different angles to see if the fielder kept it in play without touching the rope but on wade's wicket when he caught the ball while going out they only had a look at one angle. If they had a view from behind the boundary it would have showed the fielder touching the rope as he caught it.

  • RandyOZ on April 25, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Agreed with @Viv, fix the pitches up or the Windies will continue to be as useless as India away from home.

  • on April 25, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    As a coach I can well understand your position because you can't openly criticize any batsman under your watch it is not going to happen,surely it's frustrating for you as it is for me as a fan...somewhere along the selectors felt Brathwaite was struggling and need to be rested but didn't want to take him off the squad for it that would have destroyed his confidence,they brought is Fudadin who's the second leading run Scorer in this year's WICB tournament and can bowled a bit of medium pace,he should have replaced Brathwaite in the final 11,I guess the Coaches/management team will have to live with that mistake....

  • on April 26, 2012, 21:03 GMT

    @sinhaya Lets see what happens. I have a vivid memory of India butchered by England in all the tests. Anyways like any other cricket romantic I would love to see WI giving a good fight. But I do not want WI to loose their flair. I want Russel in the team. He is one hell of a batting talent. N he is 200 times better than braithwaitte. If one can not bowl we cant call him a batsman.

  • on April 25, 2012, 19:49 GMT

    Yes, cricket is a game of glorious uncertainties, not miracles, we need a miracle. Our past performances don't tell me we can win nor even draw this one. However I'm hoping for a miracle. We still have few around.

  • Rally_Windies on April 25, 2012, 15:30 GMT

    how could they be low on confidence? some of them know that they could make 4 consecutive ducks and still play ahead of people who are scoring 10-20's ..

    when are certain of your place, and you are not bothered that you will be replaced if you perform poorly, you would be super confident every time you go out and bat...

    and you would confidently walk back to the pavilion every time you make duck ~!

  • Sinhaya on April 25, 2012, 12:29 GMT

    @Pallab Mukherjee, no way will Windies lose 3-0 in England. If Pakistan won a test match in England in 2010 home summer and if Sri Lanka last summer lost only 1-0, Windies will by no means lose 3-0. Windies will have the advantage of IPL players returning so they might even win surprise all with a win even! Remember many said Sri Lanka will lose 3-0 last summer in England but was all wrong!!

  • godfreyse on April 25, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    Stats info recently provided clearly provide reasons for cricket dilemma in the WI. Darren Bravo has a S/R of35+ at home & 50+ O/S. Shiv has a S/R of41+ at home & 41+ O/S. It shows that attacking players r finding it harder to score on WI pitches. The pitches offered in the WI r killing our cricket. WI players by nature r aggressive. The pitches r the reason for the low Regional scores. Attacking players can't make runs on these pitches. It is also the reason we can't get the lower order out. Why? They defend most of the time & they r handy with the bat. Hence 167-7; 328 -10. Shiv & Dravid will make runs they r risks free players. Clarke & Ponting will punish, they like to attack. Our boys may very well do better in ENG. Our pitches do not lend to our type of cricket, bottom line. What do u think.

  • on April 25, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    West Indies is suffering from lack of experience especially at the top of the batting, Gayle and Sarwan is needed badly, how long will W.I continue to destroy the confidence of these young batsman, who obviously is not ready for Int..Cricket...The bowling is decent, but the batting starts and ends with Chanderpaul...

  • godfreyse on April 25, 2012, 11:54 GMT

    Stats info provided clearly show reason for the cricket dilemma in the WI.

  • johntycodes on April 25, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    It's the same old story for the windies. They have some good individual performances during a test series and the fielding has been excellent but it's just that killer instinct which is why the west indies haven't won a test series for years. Also why the aussies are now back up near the top of the rankings because of the determination not to fail whereas west indies culture isn't like that. Also the third umpire seems to be a windies fan in this game. Somehow early on day 2 they had 3 different angles to see if the fielder kept it in play without touching the rope but on wade's wicket when he caught the ball while going out they only had a look at one angle. If they had a view from behind the boundary it would have showed the fielder touching the rope as he caught it.

  • RandyOZ on April 25, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Agreed with @Viv, fix the pitches up or the Windies will continue to be as useless as India away from home.

  • on April 25, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    As a coach I can well understand your position because you can't openly criticize any batsman under your watch it is not going to happen,surely it's frustrating for you as it is for me as a fan...somewhere along the selectors felt Brathwaite was struggling and need to be rested but didn't want to take him off the squad for it that would have destroyed his confidence,they brought is Fudadin who's the second leading run Scorer in this year's WICB tournament and can bowled a bit of medium pace,he should have replaced Brathwaite in the final 11,I guess the Coaches/management team will have to live with that mistake....

  • Mervo on April 25, 2012, 9:56 GMT

    I have to agree with some others - the pitches there are terrible and show lack of preparation or ability to prepare pitches. They have all been too much in favour of the bowlers. No batsmen have shown confidence. Look at Clarke and the form he and Ponting have been in and how they have also struggled on those rough tracks.

  • on April 25, 2012, 9:46 GMT

    N braithwaite is not a good young player, he is a young player. Kirk should be back if fit n replace him. WI coach n management has done one thing with great consistency. they encouraged mediocrity n drove talent out of the team, n tried building team spirit. Cricket is not that much a team game.. so this spirit will not be useful.

  • on April 25, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    What's the point of being patient with these young players? Daren Ganga played 48 tests, was even made captain and ended up with a career average of 25. Brathwaite would be something similar, slow and always getting out after making starts. England are gonna rack up 500, 600+ scores @ 4 runs per over and bowl WI out for sub 100 scores. Time to bring back the experienced guys.

  • on April 25, 2012, 9:40 GMT

    @Ross_Co what a stupid comment. India played in Australia. If this Aussie team come to India they will not win the series for sure. Windies is struggling in their own home condition. With Narine they would have easily won this series. Shillingford is a good bowler. Their stupid selectors should retain quality players somehow. And in England WI will loose 3-0. Darrren Bravo showed that he is just the cousin of Brain. Brian would have dominated Lyon mercilessly whole series. With a strike rate below 50 windies can not win a test match.

  • VivGilchrist on April 25, 2012, 8:49 GMT

    The pitches are killing the batsmens confidence. No one in WI cricket has made any runs. They are also over inflating the ability of the spinners. If this keeps up WI are going to be useless outside of WI and the sub-continent.

  • on April 25, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    Bwoy its really very sad. The Australian tailenders are making more runs than our entire top order. It is obvious these batsmen are not ready for international level cricket. playing them in England will only do them more harm than good. How much more battering can their confidence take. I cant understand our selectors. They pick Fudadin who had a good season in first class cricket by our standards yet they choose to play Brathwaite the walking wicket over him? with 3 consecutive ducks to Brathwaite how much worse could the Guyanese have been?

  • on April 25, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    I think westindies is lacking some spin of Sunil Naraine and Chris Gayle at the top of the order . They both could have done wonders in this test series too. Imagine starting with gayle and then following it up with spin in case of Naraine. It would have added atleast 50 runs in this innings and decreased 40 runs from aussie total. The match would have been in favour of westindies. IT is the same story for onedays and t20 too.It could have easily been westindies winning them both by a big margin because they have lost only by a whisker.

  • simonviller on April 25, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Yes coach ! That's where we need that extra pacer or two like the Australians,to share the load ; but we need to work on our batsmen to improve their batting in order to add that extra bowler . We keep fighting ,but we are out-match by Australia ,with the exception of two players on our side . They have a number of world-class players ,we only have two at present ,so we have to keep building and improving .

  • Sinhaya on April 25, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Hope Rampaul is inspired by his 86 not out in India last year as this is at home and not away. Hope Rampaul and Chanderpaul can add about a 100 more or at least can post a total of 250. I cannot understand how could the Windies have started folding at the hands of Lyon after surviving the bowling of Hilfenhaus, Harris and Starc for over 20 overs!!! Windies just seem to suffer from quick fatigue after doing very well like on day 1.

  • Ross_Co on April 25, 2012, 5:16 GMT

    Agreed that WI are wasting good positions with their inability to dismiss the tail. They are still putting up a lot more of a fight than India did however.

  • Meety on April 25, 2012, 4:33 GMT

    Still plenty of time for a twist or three, however I would say this is the furthest the gap has been between the 2 sides in 12 days of tests. Yesterday was easily the best day for Oz so far. WIndies will need to add at least 100 more runs to stay close.

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  • Meety on April 25, 2012, 4:33 GMT

    Still plenty of time for a twist or three, however I would say this is the furthest the gap has been between the 2 sides in 12 days of tests. Yesterday was easily the best day for Oz so far. WIndies will need to add at least 100 more runs to stay close.

  • Ross_Co on April 25, 2012, 5:16 GMT

    Agreed that WI are wasting good positions with their inability to dismiss the tail. They are still putting up a lot more of a fight than India did however.

  • Sinhaya on April 25, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Hope Rampaul is inspired by his 86 not out in India last year as this is at home and not away. Hope Rampaul and Chanderpaul can add about a 100 more or at least can post a total of 250. I cannot understand how could the Windies have started folding at the hands of Lyon after surviving the bowling of Hilfenhaus, Harris and Starc for over 20 overs!!! Windies just seem to suffer from quick fatigue after doing very well like on day 1.

  • simonviller on April 25, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Yes coach ! That's where we need that extra pacer or two like the Australians,to share the load ; but we need to work on our batsmen to improve their batting in order to add that extra bowler . We keep fighting ,but we are out-match by Australia ,with the exception of two players on our side . They have a number of world-class players ,we only have two at present ,so we have to keep building and improving .

  • on April 25, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    I think westindies is lacking some spin of Sunil Naraine and Chris Gayle at the top of the order . They both could have done wonders in this test series too. Imagine starting with gayle and then following it up with spin in case of Naraine. It would have added atleast 50 runs in this innings and decreased 40 runs from aussie total. The match would have been in favour of westindies. IT is the same story for onedays and t20 too.It could have easily been westindies winning them both by a big margin because they have lost only by a whisker.

  • on April 25, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    Bwoy its really very sad. The Australian tailenders are making more runs than our entire top order. It is obvious these batsmen are not ready for international level cricket. playing them in England will only do them more harm than good. How much more battering can their confidence take. I cant understand our selectors. They pick Fudadin who had a good season in first class cricket by our standards yet they choose to play Brathwaite the walking wicket over him? with 3 consecutive ducks to Brathwaite how much worse could the Guyanese have been?

  • VivGilchrist on April 25, 2012, 8:49 GMT

    The pitches are killing the batsmens confidence. No one in WI cricket has made any runs. They are also over inflating the ability of the spinners. If this keeps up WI are going to be useless outside of WI and the sub-continent.

  • on April 25, 2012, 9:40 GMT

    @Ross_Co what a stupid comment. India played in Australia. If this Aussie team come to India they will not win the series for sure. Windies is struggling in their own home condition. With Narine they would have easily won this series. Shillingford is a good bowler. Their stupid selectors should retain quality players somehow. And in England WI will loose 3-0. Darrren Bravo showed that he is just the cousin of Brain. Brian would have dominated Lyon mercilessly whole series. With a strike rate below 50 windies can not win a test match.

  • on April 25, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    What's the point of being patient with these young players? Daren Ganga played 48 tests, was even made captain and ended up with a career average of 25. Brathwaite would be something similar, slow and always getting out after making starts. England are gonna rack up 500, 600+ scores @ 4 runs per over and bowl WI out for sub 100 scores. Time to bring back the experienced guys.

  • on April 25, 2012, 9:46 GMT

    N braithwaite is not a good young player, he is a young player. Kirk should be back if fit n replace him. WI coach n management has done one thing with great consistency. they encouraged mediocrity n drove talent out of the team, n tried building team spirit. Cricket is not that much a team game.. so this spirit will not be useful.